FPaul can someone just make a channel that says that so whenever someone asks that you can just do #how-to-rank-up
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
ruby needle
No
People don't want general places to go to. They want individual responses. Else just link that URL
vocal shard
😔
uncut trail
friend keeps timing out in vrc is cauae of the update ?
vocal shard
just did full body tracking for the first time what a trip that was
lunar shell
Yeah, without full body you're only half way immersed. It's amazing to walk around in.
vocal shard
first world i join in the pub i run into someone else with full body and he took me to some tutorial world he made for a different method of walking around and taught me all this stuff it was great
actually felt all weird after I got out of vr like it was the first time all over again
First day I got full body I punted a knuckles and then went to the void club found a mute and the rest is history
hah i gotta get used to lifting my legs up in vr like that i almost fell over a few times
gotta put on some shoes to stiffen up the straps and figure out someway to eliminate the motion of the hip tracker though
Yeah I almost broke my toe once after trying to kick something and ended up kicking the leg of my dresser
i have a decent 3x3m play space but if i hit something its going to hurt
already almost broke a finger bowling one day in vrchat
signal lily
Quite excited. Should be getting a headset tomorrow
vocal shard
Awesome
signal lily
Yeah!
vocal shard
Hope you have fun ^^
bronze swift
@vocal shard that person wasn't a hyena avatar was he?
quasi otter
Ah, well... Goodnight
uncut trail
disable the ik please till you have aucaul fix ...
vocal shard
Disabling IK completely that sounds like a good idea
Why not just have everyone frozen and in a t pose 
Everyone t pose.
"This is fine"
uncut trail
or revese what they did to ik it was fine before but now people getting timed out in vrc
like consdntly
rancid vessel
What the.. Second time that i randomly got turned into the robot avatar upon loading a different world.. What's happening here.. I'm using a dutch angel dragon avatar before it changes.. O.o
vale palm
Server hiccups, it prob cant load the model due to connectivity issues or whatever so you get the robot
is my guess
rancid vessel
Happens once more.. I'll just send support@vrchat the output logs..
vocal shard
@bronze swift nope
coarse rock
Anyone else’s game taking a odd amount of time to load today?
Like logging in/loading into home world
rancid vessel
logging in was almost instant for me..
Then again i do have the box as my home world.. lol
mighty widget
what up
small wing
Just got ddossed reeeee
anyone know of any good ways to hide my ip for free? been slacking on finding something for public worlds.
so far all i got is windscribe
vocal shard
Call your dns and ask to change your ip
fallow sable
I have a shitty leftist ISP that blocked all VPN sites and 4chan after you know what.
vocal shard
Then get a vpn
fallow sable
So my security is at stake because of my ISP's political beliefs.
vocal shard
Yeah that doesn't sound legal at all
fallow sable
It isn't.
small wing
ur not legal
vocal shard
true
fallow sable
But they get away with it anyway, because soyboys see them as "heroes" for doing so.
vocal shard
Well you're not wrong
fallow sable
So honestly, fuck ISPs.
small wing
I wonder if i can set up a burner connection at my friends house so people hit that IP instead 🤔
fallow sable
They basically exists to monitor what you do online and block websites based on political beliefs. And now VPNs.
small wing
He does internet security so he can easily get info and put these guys into some serious trouble.
Call their isp's. Easy win.
small wing
Might actually do that. Put the fear of god into these scrip kiddies and get their ISP to shut them down.
Sounds like fun actually.
I got the packet info to prove it too.
🙏
fallow sable
tmw people who use modded clients consider theirselves hackers
tmw it makes kids that DDoS look like ex-FBI agents
small wing
Isn't there a way to have like a tunnel connection so that my main network doesn't get shut off from an attack locally? Or do you think the only way would be a vpn?
fallow sable
I dunno
small wing
Or even set up a packet limit to throttle that tunnel?
Might be possible idk, not a network guy but that would be so useful when in public lobbies.
fallow sable
Legit I've seen people lie in VRChat saying they're like "hacker badasses" that can fry your PC.
fallow sable
That's their language for "I have a modded client, and can rip avatars and crash people."
they really wouldn't
There's no real "hacker badasses" in this game.
almost everyone is a fake piece of shit
fallow sable
Hate to be a hipster, but before the game got a huge playerbase, they actually had an original WoW dev play the game, which I thought was cool.
small wing
fallen pagoda
oh shit lol sorry
small wing
Also interjecting a convo like that makes me assume that was just copy paste 😉
Gotta make an impact first by buttering us up before splurting a link
make us feel pampered and then hit us with that spam
works a lot better
gleaming tulip
Are we able to work on another unity project while one uploads?
small wing
yes
fallen pagoda
honestly I didn't know..I'm pretty new to discord it was a video about social anxiety I just put it in the wrong spot. Once again I apologize
fallow sable
I'm gonna go ahead and get off now. Gotta fry the Youtube HQ servers and make all money go to me with my "pro hacker badass" skills.
small wing
@fallen pagoda its all good man, also check the VRC reddit too.
Good place to post
@fallow sable oh no plz dont hack my toaster
fallow sable
(And I swear to god if any of you take that seriously, stop sucking up all that big gay soy.)
gleaming tulip
cool,ty. Takes SO LONG to upload thought I would try to increase productivity but didnt know if it would screw up the upload if I did
fallow sable
Slurp Soy
small wing
😏
fallow sable
Okay, bye
gleaming tulip
future proofing not needed?
small wing
Future proofing never really served a big purpose considering the hop to LTS 2017 still broke a lot of models
lean valley
VRChat is weirdly dead today
small wing
Honestly better to back up your own files
covert linden
its only 12 30 of course
brittle sky
random midnight thought "since its on a newer version of unity, and now have networkIK, i wonder if they'd condsider adding more than 3 vive tracker support??"
covert linden
is that a vrchat thing, or a steam thing tho?
brittle sky
vrchat
covert linden
Like can you realistically do more than 3 with steamvr?
rigid crescent
Other games can support more
brittle sky
yes
covert linden
Ah okay
rigid crescent
I think HiFi had like 6 or 7?
covert linden
I wasnt sure thats why i asked
brittle sky
older version of unity didnt support more than 3 iirc,
covert linden
ohh
brittle sky
but im the crazy person that would 100% buy knee trackers
rigid crescent
nah, buy shoulder trackers just to accurately shrug
brittle sky
and elbows
to elbow mf's
something like this would be dope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFviHqKfD8o
small wing
hold up finna buy me some TOES
covert linden
Yeah you need toe sensors for that slight lift of foot
uncut trail
3rd crash d/c due to ik network 😦
small wing
Ur too many caps bot
Why is caps deletion even a thing. This aint real life lol. No need for the noise complaints.
Now if that was like 500 lines of all caps, sure.
nocapswhileitrytooutdothesystemsoicansaywhatiwantedtohereitgoes MORE TOE TRACKERS
there we go
cold talon
Words too long!
~Dyno
quartz osprey
yellow
plush cove
Ok i have one question to the comunity: why do males like being females in vrchat i mean i am too but why?
timber swan
dawn pecan
There's at least 10 times more good female avatars than male avatars. People like roleplaying. The characters look good
karmic bramble
hey how do i remap the controllers so that i can use the joystick to move instead of the trackpad?
i remember there was the steam rout but the controller settings in steamvr kinda changed completely
plush cove
@karmic bramble i think u can press ctrl while you are starting vrchat, then ho into the controls tab
crimson plinth
can someone help me find a certain avatar please
covert linden
@vocal shard are u far from the Us?
crimson plinth
has anyone here know where the shiba inu characters are
uncut trail
temp disable ik network please cant play vrc without constent timing out 😦
covert linden
@uncut trail Send your outputlogs to support@vrchat.com
primal island
Hi all, how long does it usually take for a world to become public? mine has been in community labs for soon 1 month
covert linden
Its unknown, its an unknown algorithm to prevent exploitation
covert linden
System decides, but its not random
primal island
Oh alright thank you~
floral zodiac
@crimson plinth you can get it on the pikapetee patreon
crimson plinth
nice thank you i have been looking for ages in different worlds and found nothing
light wedge
hi i test bell in vrchat why can't hear sound
near sky
Ask in #avatars-2-general or #world-development depending on which of the two you're working on 😃
light wedge
hello i need help. so in unity see work sound but in vrchat can't hear sound. use script.
rigid crescent
Scripts don't work
light wedge
no. script are work
floral aspen
VRChat does not support scripting
rigid crescent
Nope. Scripts don't work ingame
near sky
Scripts = 🚫
light wedge
oh ok
floral aspen
You don't need a script for sounds anyway. Just create a new audio source and make it a child of your avatar
floral aspen
Umm your audio source in the screenshot had no audio file associated with it. It's just an empty audio source
floral aspen
Try saying that again. That sentence makes no sense. Not trying to be rude I just have no idea what you're trying to say
light wedge
i live in UK
covert linden
Scripting is dangerous if people had free access to it. You cannot script in vrchat, for vrchat, etc
vocal shard
Deathpacito in a bottle
vocal shard
with the Rift S can I have a playspace that isnt a cuboid? can I go around corners with it?
covert linden
You can have instant roomscale without setting up a playspace as far as im aware (if it works like the wmr)
idle wadi
some worlds just won't load for some reason
fossil root
@karmic bramble SteamVR Dashboard (thumbstick press), Settings, Controller Bindings, VRChat, Community Bindings, VRChat with working Thumbsticks and Jump, Select this binding
ruby needle
the CPU is more then good enogh
umbral reef
Gpu also
ruby needle
dunno about the Radeon 7, isn't that just a series?
If you have 16gb ram too then you're likely good to go.
should be some what decent connection
Are you trying to pose with your hardware? 
If these are legit questions, yes. But... what do you expect with basically top of the line hardware
No
vocal shard
You can play the game on desktop but it's much more enjoyable with a vr headset
ruby needle
But with that hardware it shouldnt be to hard for you to buy some
But you can give it a try without, tho it's a completely different experience with
vocal shard
Sell your liver on the black market
Last i checked they're selling for upwards of 130K
desert stratus
if you can find a lenovo explorer used that hasn't been fucked over by its owner ur golden for vrc
and usually people take good care of their VR shit soo
lament dragon
Is there any way to load avatars before you load in, high population worlds just kick me repeatedly for 8+ minutes
desert stratus
nope
if u wanna meet friendy people rlly quickly in this game its often more fruitful to sift thru community servers
like this one or any of the ones in #community-servers-old
attending events is an izi pizi way of meeting nice people
rigid crescent
Just go to another world
desert stratus
also, avoid the mirrors >~>
lofty cloak
Yass queen
umbral reef
Good luck finding non anime stuff really
Also this is a social game, the game will really only be as fun as you make it and the people you find
vocal shard
Helllooo
rigid crescent
You definitely won't have much luck finding non-anime lol
vocal shard
yeah, VRChat is FULL of anime
ivory frost
The guardian on Quest is excellent and easy to set up. I assume Rift S works the same way. Quit quest you enter the area for the playspace reset the floor position if needed by touching the floor witht he controller, and then you draw your boundaries on the floor via the pointer beam from the controller and the passthrough. Not even 30 seconds to be playing in a new area, and you don't have to restart the game you are playing.
covert linden
The rift s' guardian is just live footage from tje cameras as far as im aware
Hit escape and click on them
ivory frost
They really did great work with Quest. It's still a concern that it is pretty much being pushed to its max and still leaves a little to be desired, but a good experience is certainly in reach. The Undersea Cave on Quest impressed me. I'm glad I have my rift, but the Quest is a worthwhile portable option for VRchat and better than nothing for those who can't even handle desktop mode with their PC's.
sharp spruce
Battery life is only around 2 hours though, right? that's still a huge drawback for all but the most casual players.
covert linden
@sharp spruce you can play while its charging
sharp spruce
And then you're back to a tether.
if you're having trouble meeting people, just explore public instances of worlds that interest you. You'll meet people soon enough.
No worries, if you're shy or socially awkward or whatever, just hang around the small groups in populated worlds. Usually a bit friendlier than the big loud ones. I'm pretty awkward myself And there's usually someone that will try to help include you in those groups. If English isn't your first language, there are a bunch of other channels with different languages at the bottom of the discord channels, you may have better luck asking there.
No problem, good luck.
wise gate
are the servers down?
covert linden
!online
wise gate
i cant connect to VRChat
floral flaxBOT
There are 6203 users in VRChat currently
covert linden
Doesnt seem like it
tired raft
im trying to understand this game can someone explain me what is this game for ?? i have been walking around for 2 hours and couldn have a normal conversation yet XD
umbral reef
Tl;dr
Its a social game online with VR and the option for you to upload your own stuff
tired raft
your own stuff like what?
umbral reef
Avatars you find online, that you can edit or even creating your own avatar from nothing
teal apex
Guys game became unplayable after last update what the hell?!
rigid crescent
Email support👌
vocal shard
with output logs
teal apex
I'm talking about the delays and voice problems
rigid crescent
Yeah email support about it, not much anyone else can do. My guess is that it your internet tho
ivory frost
@sharp spruce you can use a battery pack for the charging while playing, and then you won't be tethered to anything if you run the cord through your shirt to your pocket.
ruby needle
There is not much to mail support about.
The new IK will need a few tweaks till we get to close to old iK
teal apex
My internet's always been bad since servers are NA and I'm from Europe but I could deal with 200 ping, but this update broke everything, markers moving and actual text showing up after 2 seconds, voice cracking and disappearing in every room, stuff like murder room circle lighting up 2 secs after I sit on it, motion delay on everyone, it's literally unplayable. Talked to some of my friends and they said they got same issues :/
Just read patch notes and I see they know about these problems, but jeez, it's frustrating
umbral reef
Ow yea thats all with the IK stuff
teal apex
Is it the same for people in NA with lower pings?
rigid crescent
Yeah not as bad but similar
teal apex
Man everything was perfect before this Quest arrived
teal apex
I miss the old times when only gaia night with people showing off animations was a thing
ruby needle
new IK is not about the quest.
It's a thing that's been planned way before
Quest only really made it needed to push now and it's fair that it's not working perfect out of the box
rigid crescent
Well it's more like we returned it and they sent a replacement the next day but that one didn't work either and now they're not responding nearly the same as the first time
indigo fern
yea, their first test run of the networked ik was like a couple months ago
but it failed spectacularly and was rolled back pretty quick
rigid crescent
That got rolled back in like a day but Quest kinda screws us out if a roll back
Like less than 24 hours I'm pretty sure
indigo fern
yea, it was super quick
ruby needle
the reason it was rolled back was because servers capitulated
umbral reef
Yea, it just kills the playability for anyone outside of NA really
rigid crescent
Yeah it just kinda sent us back to post December where lots of users can't connect
I remember Gearbell was unable to play for like...a month? Two maybe. She was in here like every day trying to find a fix
indigo fern
it messes with the playability for people in NA too, dont worry
rigid crescent
Better than the whole game being down but I have 1000mbps down and I'm the only one I know not experiencing any issues whatsoever, outside of object sync. You shouldn't need that to play lol
Like 60 I think but that's pretty normal
I think I did notice someone head patting me where I wasn't but I moved around a bit and they adjusted and it was ok
Or they were headpatting someone I had blocked lol
boreal kelp
What are some good worlds to try and socialize in
north rock
Lol, none of them
I'd say...well, one could argue almost any of them would be good for that, but it really comes down to exposure and the sample size of people you can come across
And by that measure, I'd say...Box? Pug? The usual, I guess.
Actually, I retract the Box, people are there almost exclusively for the mirror so it's not a good venue for actual interaction
boreal kelp
Aside from an emote animation or two, my custom avatar is at a good enough point where I feel like trying to socialize.
neat wyvern
Does VRPill have his own name tag colour 🤔
boreal kelp
Is it a stretch to say that VRChat can help people with social anxiety?
north rock
I believe all staff have a red tag.
neat wyvern
That's cool
north rock
No, it's not a stretch by any means. There's a lot of online testimonial about that very thing.
neat wyvern
^
vocal shard
I opened up a lot more after starting vrchat. I used to be a mute always hiding in the corner. Now I actually make the effort to meet people
neat wyvern
If you search on yt "kid talks about being bullied in vrchat" and click on the one with Kermit on the thumbnail you'll see an exact example of that stuff y'know
Oh and uh on that thumbnail Kermit is in a school world
umbral reef
Ironically enough im more social outside the game then ingame 🤔
north rock
It's by no means exempt from the stressors and scenarios that compels/reinforces that anxiety, though. In any world, people will be people. Hell, people can often be even worse about it on VRC for fairly obvious reasons. It's a double-edged sword in that regard
fresh merlin
am i the only one that keeps getting disconnected?
vocal shard
I think you are. I think your Wi-Fi is bad or something like that. I'm just guessing
fresh merlin
im on cable rip
tulip wave
Same! It says vr chat has timed out
And I tried uninstall and clearing cache but it can’t join friends...
quiet sleet
I think it's getting ddossed again
torn pelican
🤔
tulip wave
its been happening for 3 days now...
cinder wasp
Good day to all, how are you doing?
rigid crescent
probably your connection
north rock
Check #vrchat-general-1 , it's not just him
uncut trail
it ik network
causing the problem temp disable it please
till find prefect soloutio
kindred briar
? i can log in just fine.
uncut trail
i keep getting timed out
pale void
i gave up after the 3rd try in steamvr.... quest worked fine...
same connection.... just the platform difference
livid gull
hello 😃
keen vigil
yuh
sacred linden
Hoi!
spare rose
Anyone know how to run in vr with oculus controllers?
I'm leading some dude with vr in snooze's maze, but atm he doesn't know how to run.
vocal shard
On Oculus you just push the stick all the way and it runs at top speed. You don't need to do anything else
indigo fern
also you move faster while standing of course
vocal shard
Imagine someone crouch walking at top speed. Lol
slate verge
it is essential to have all types of avatars with special abilities :')
Flying, Light, Fast, Giant, Dancer, Colorful, Musical and most importantly...Cats!
spare rose
oh thanks Jamie. But it seems like it might just be a bug with snooze's maze that sometimes occurs
north rock
There is no shortage on those
Yeah, scrounging up an arsenal of utility avatars from public worlds is very difficult, to say the least
north rock
Herro
late lake
question for anyone that streams the game, is it possible to do the whole multiple camera setup that most people do with a dual pc setup?
most people use openvr but I don't have obs and steamvr on the same pc :/
north rock
Getting both on the same PC isn't an option?
safe prism
you could probably accomplish something with OBS + NDI (which is very low overhead,) or capture cards and VR display mirroring
shell dirge
north rock
Well, at least for the time being, it's a very niche audience, and content creators generally don't like limits. It's not such a surprise, really.
But you're right in any event.
covert linden
@shell dirge because theyre extremely limited and they have to be made bby users. Most people arent gonna make quest ready avatars
meager solstice
With quest u will/should get quality over quantity
sacred linden
You know what makes me confused.
That the oculus quest is strong enough to handle everything vrchat has to offer, but they still limit a lot of what vr chat has to offer.
heavy bridge
I think they're holding back until the big update..
north rock
Can the quest actually handle that much, though?
sacred linden
Yes
It can actually.
People have found out how to download steam vr onto the oculus quest and they run vr chat through it and they get to use all avatars and go to all worlds with no problems what so ever.
covert linden
no, it cant.
@sacred linden Quest CANNOT handle that, its physically impossible. The steamvr thing is streaming from a pc to the quest, which means the quest is just the visuals. it is NOT possible for the quest to see pc assets
please dont spread false information as all games had to be brutally optimized for its mobile assets. Its mobile, it physically cannot play any steamvr game that isnt made for mobile, it is impossible because thatd be pc assets. What you saw, was the quest streaming a game off of a pc.
safe prism
imagine asking a 2 year old flagship phone CPU to play crysis 3
placid zealot
Aye
sage sedge
I'm trying to learn 3d-modelling stuff for VRC. I'm only a beginner in Blender, and I have zero experience in Unity. I'm going to do most of the stuff through online tutorials, but It'd be nice to know someone that I can ask for help especially about stuff that's for VRC and there aren't good tutorials of. Is there anyone I can add and PM to ask for help?
vocal shard
someone in #3d-modeling might be able to help
sage sedge
Thank you~
dry dock
I cant play VRChat, I cant load in to any worlds cause of the looping shit and when I do load into a world I crash
I really wanna know when this update is so I can enjoy the game again
kindred briar
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
kindred briar
@dry dock try this.
dry dock
I did
kindred briar
and you still crash?
north rock
What a handy command
quaint raptor
is it just me who get a problem connecting to vrchat service?
languid beacon
Lesson learned, do not offer your Discord name on Reddit offering to do free avatar conversions to quest
I’m dead
7 requests and I feel like a dick if I don’t do them all lol
ruby needle
@languid beacon congrats for the extra requests you'll probably get from this message 
north rock
I can't speak on the Rift S, I imagine most VR owners at this time are those with the CV1 who are satisfied with their current product
vocal shard
A bunch of CV1 owners and Vive users on Reddit moved to the Rift S and liked it quite a bit.
If I didn't have VR that's what I'd get (since I can't justify myself buying an Index for just this game and a couple others that I play)
north rock
Agreed, we can worry about high-end stuff when there are high-end games on the market
Because I don't think any current game quite qualifies
I don't recall all of the differences in the S, but as a CV1 owner, there's no way I can see myself dropping $500 on said differences
vocal shard
Pros:
Much sharper screen which due to the subpixel layout is sharper than the Vive pro or Quest. Better lenses which have a much larger sweetspot and less godrays.
Best headset for glasses now.
Nutral:
Inside out tracking rather than external sensors. Most say it works perfectly and is comparable to 3 sensors, but some are more picky.
Halo headstrap with thick padding. Subjective, some like it more, some don't.
Cons:
No mechanical IPD adjustment, but with the new lenses and software IPD, user claims of 60-70 so far say it works perfect with no strain
No built in headphones
queen mango
No built-in headphones 
Means, no microphone?
vocal shard
It has 2 microphones
north rock
Y'know, for your two separate voices
vocal shard
It has a couple little speakers on the headband, but not proper headphones like the CV1. Likely due to the CV1 headphones breaking. It has a headphone jack
Also the headband is designed to detache, likely for an upgraded headband you can buy later
The dual mics is for noise cancellation. Your voice is in the middle of the mics, so both mics pick it up evenly. Other stuff that the mics don't pick up the same is probably something in the room and it helps cancel it out
queen mango
Ah, that's good to know.
north rock
I do think the iffiest part of the S is the inside-out tracking. It's definitely a trade-off. I think comparing it to a 3-sensor setup is a little absurd, because that's roomscale and I just find that hard to believe.
It would have to be a considerable improvement on the WMR's inside-out to accomplish that.
I wonder if it optionally supports sensors.
vocal shard
The inside out tracking is really good. On Tested they were playing echo arena on it. Passing the disk behind their back. Ect.
The S has 5 cameras compared to WMR's 2, and the controller IMU is a bit more advanced probably.
Still, I prefer my wmr to my CV1 and don't really have a problem with it's tracking. It's probably more of a preference thing
The benefit of the inside out tracking is less USB usage, and roomscale out of the box. Apparently a large majority of rift owners only had 2 sensors, so that is an upgrade for most
They said technically the external sensors could still work, but they would only add support if there's demand for them
north rock
My friend with the Acer WMR basically can't move her controls outside of the ~170 degree cone in front of her or they lose tracking. I certainly hope it's as good on the S as people are alleging.
Because I remember back when it was announced and going for test runs, peoppe were definitely saying that it would be inferior to the 3-sensor setup...not sure what changed.
vocal shard
For wmr You have to have some motion and the controllers will track 360.
The rift S had really accurate tracking from the 5 cameras seeing in front, at your sides, and above you. When they compared the tracking to the CV1, the sub millimeter tracking was more accurate than the CV1. The blindspot is directly behind you back and head, but you can still reach right behind you due to the IMU sensors in the controllers. Having the tracking built into the headset means you have instant roomscale that is really hard to occlude.
One reason I like my wmr is I feel free to go anywhere with it in my room. I had my uncle try it once and he was crawling under a table and it kept tracking. My rift feels like it's accurate in a cube in the middle of the room, but closer to the walls or other things it sometimes can have issues.
Just for me. From my experience, I feel Lighthouses are the best and would be the ideal settup to have, but between the Rift with it's sensors and Inside out tracking, I prefer inside out
But again, it's personal preference. Some will fight that, and that's understandable. I don't play shooters like Pavlov which apparently there is some issue with inside out if you are lining up your shot.
I don't have enough experience there to know how much of an issue that is.
I mainly play VRChat, Beat Saber, and racing Sims
dawn pecan
Should avatars have a size limit? I've seen 50~MB ones. I don't like limitations, but some are bigger than what's good
If nothong else, then a 100MB limit enforced when uploading from the SDK
stoic halo
why would a model even be 50MB
umbral reef
An unoptimized mess
dawn pecan
Those with 20+ textures, each using multiple maps for the shaders, then upped to 4K textures for some dumb reason.
Know that priest girl or whatever avatar with the big zipper? It ususally has multiple 4K maps of smoke
Some handguns do the same thing, they're probably public prefabs from somewhere, I see them a lot (and they're all 4K, which requires switching the maximum size from 2048 manually in Unity)
ruby needle
And then people wonder why vrchat had memory issues
slate verge
does anyone know if you get a decline notification if you sent a request to join a friends world?
kindred briar
you do not
feral basin
Lol
near sky
Even larger problem in community content driven game is quality of the community content; defines the experience, including that of performance
rigid crescent
Yeah even in old interviews the creators never wanted any hard limits on anything which makes it awesome but kinda hard to manage performance consistently as far as community content
near sky
Yeah.
rigid crescent
But that's what the community lab is for
near sky
Though the bounds for performance issues can be controlled by the platform; the trade off is creator restriction for predictability of performance
rigid crescent
I personally don't see that happening, kinda seems like it would've happened a long time ago
It's the easier solution but I dont think that's the vision they had in mind
near sky
No, definitely agree there
-this game wasn't made with a userbase in mind large enough that it would be a problem
and the benefit of the tradeoff adds some magic; more legroom for creativity at the cost of some added risk
covert linden
@vocal shard deviantart
vocal shard
Okay thank you
Does anyone know how to activate the animations?
I forgot what keys they are
opaque jetty
i only know c makes you sit
covert linden
shirt + f1- f8
covert linden
SHIFT
vocal shard
Too late
covert linden
Crying
desert stratus
somewhere, a linguist weeps
tribal oxide
Sniffs
umbral reef
Wrong channel and god dam gross man
placid zealot
Yuck
north rock
👀
signal lily
Is anyone else that's on quest experiencing an issue where nobody can hear them even though they're unmuted?
I'm having that problem, which is strange because people can hear me in other games
hybrid fiber
Where would I go to ask for help regarding skeletons?
vocal shard
hybrid fiber
Alright thanks
unborn dune
Honest question: Does the team ever talk to the userbase?
Like giving updates on where they are and dont you dare say the canny
slate verge
i saw tupper doing it a few weeks back, so...yes?
unborn dune
oh a few weeks back
slate verge
its not constant updates, but its there
unborn dune
where?
slate verge
a friend also said that they were online in vrchat and visited them, friend said that i missed them and i got sad
slate verge
what are you expecting? community dev interaction?
slate verge
no i don't think they have a interaction like that "constantly", but i do know that they do login vrchat according to a friend.
unborn dune
they are far from constantly. a copy pasted once a week
slate verge
that channel does not indicate their activity
vocal shard
I wait for a Android version
They are planning to do regular develper streams. They had one a just over a week ago, and will have one in June I believe
There s one?
covert linden
A few of them come chat rather often...
slate verge
oh yeah they did had a stream recently.
unborn dune
so the few people that are on those particular times get to maybe get some answers?
vocal shard
Dan will sometimes come in chat and talk for a couple hours to interact with the community.
covert linden
Ant time announcements is pinged tupper enters these chats to answer questions. Therrs also hello@vrchat.com
unborn dune
you guys are reeeeaallly reaching here
slate verge
i saw dan and ruuubick mostly talk in these channels and random chat
covert linden
Tupper answered my questions about his sleepy sleepy cat
We arent reaching tho no. Youre expecting things and arent accepting our imput. Tupper IS here every time he pings and has helped.me, oclac, and dozens others with our questions (like the 2018 lts). Theres also their email, hello@vrchat.com :D.
vocal shard
You have about 20 people trying to build a game with an active playerbase around 10k, test bugs, answer emails, deal with legal things, develop content. Can forgive them for not having tonnes of time to chat
covert linden
^
unborn dune
im not expecting much at all. Like really. And it takes, what, 10 minutes to write some sort of update?
covert linden
The updates.. are all in announcements...
Including updated docs with EVERYTHING theyve done
unborn dune
so like i said, once a week we get something about a new feature
covert linden
What do you want, them to enter vrc gen and say guys im 50% done fixing the audio issues and instead of workign on it I spent time to tell you all ily<3
slate verge
the game doesn't have constant updates if thats what you're expecting.
unborn dune
progress is all i want
covert linden
Its 20 people making an entire game.. for how little that is they update pretty regularily for such a small team
Oh also #open-beta-info
slate verge
^^^ truth
unborn dune
like i said, make the intern write up something in 10 mins
covert linden
Theres a current open beta where they have information on whats in the works.
canny also says everything in progress
halcyon kestrel
Man i love the cool avatars in VRChat
vocal shard
They spent over an hour talking on stream what their plans are and what they're working on. If they do this every month it is a decent amount of info. The streams are recorded
unborn dune
the last thing that a team member said something in that channel was last friday
nice
slate verge
i just said that channel doesn't indicate everything on their progress
as jamie says they recorded a live stream
glad sigil
I mean given that it's a really big community it's not unreasonable that they aren't in here chatting with people all the time
slate verge
they are busy for sure
unborn dune
so can we agree that it takes close to zero effort coming up with something that says the progress for big bug/features?
vocal shard
But yeah. They used to talk a lot in here, and be more open. but as the game grew and more work came in they became more distant
glad sigil
You have to be extra careful with stuff like this too because if one person says the wrong thing it can be construed as a broken promise by the community when things don't turn out exactly how said intern said they would
unborn dune
^ i can see that
unborn dune
eh
covert linden
Are we gonna ignore hello@vrchat.com which is easily reachable
unborn dune
it just makes me feel like the bug will never be fixed ya know?
i just want to know they are on it
slate verge
@covert linden some people don't read probably
unborn dune
and where
vocal shard
Yeah. For example, Ron said how they were planning to add chairs to avatars. Since then they would get bombarded with questions about when chairs are coming. It took a long time before they were added, but the whole time it was constantly brought up and even insults thrown when it wasn't added yet
unborn dune
i get confused because a lot of things say under review but then the email i get says they are fixing it
covert linden
Which bug.
slate verge
the common bugs i am sure are being looked at.
unborn dune
the log in loop connection time out
so many of my us friends cant join many worlds because of this
including me
umbral reef
Kinda a bad example as they released it by accident
Removed it after as well- Wasnt ready yet.
We got told id be back 'soon' and soon being months.
They came back indeed less buggy but more limited.
covert linden
Theres workarounds.. called a vpn.. resrarting your router.. changing your dns..
unborn dune
oh yeah i did use my vpn but I shouldnt have to
slate verge
going into worlds in-game ties to your internet speed and connection
unborn dune
high ping
covert linden
No, but it makes it work while the devs do their best
unborn dune
@slate verge this is absolutey a bug on their end
covert linden
Havw you restarted your router? (If you have a dynamic ip)
unborn dune
i have
unless at the exact moment the update came out my unchanged internet speed, connection, and router all started to have this bug that other multiple have run into at the same time
slate verge
did you try and ask other people to see if they have the same problem? many solution to find out whats happening.
covert linden
The update is networked ik and makes it harder on peoples network.
umbral reef
Tbh- By how long lasting and regular it is for users it kinda feels like a problem where a service they use or script or what ever cant handle incosistant networking and jams up when anything goes wrong.
As its always the same group having these long lasting problems with this. While a network change can fully resolve the problem.
Then to add onto it, there are from what i get more then one networking problem happening rn
unborn dune
i dont use anything out of the ordinary scripts. I have a great computer, great internet connection and speed with a very good reliability
i just want a "yeah we broke it"
umbral reef
Im talking about there end.
unborn dune
ohhhhhhh
umbral reef
Also- Try doing to jolly old trick of restarting your router and changing your DNS to cloudfare's or google's.
unborn dune
i could def try that
covert linden
Trust me the devs never admit their mess ups.
Definarely change youe dns. I did that and its a bigg wooah
I connect better to stuff nowww
slate verge
if you notice only a few people of you can't login to the game, its probably just you guys. Its much better to confirm things with active people here to see if the game is actually stable.
umbral reef
It should be at best just a few miliseconds faster when loading things Rea...
covert linden
Those few miliseconds helped
unborn dune
i have noticed many many many people with the same problem as me
umbral reef
@slate verge Its legit the Nr1 most complained thing in here for the past ~2 months.
covert linden
I had 1mb dl speed oclac trying to dl wifi drivers. Those few miliseconds were godly..
unborn dune
^^
slate verge
usually when i can't figure things out on my end, i just called it and say "yeah the update killed it"
umbral reef
Well funny enough there network related stuff is a big mess.
Favorites still break for users, connection problems, disconnect problems, slow downloading of things and ect.
Its been a while since i seen one of these problems being fully fixed and not complained about anymore.
slate verge
well then i hope they are doing everything they can in fixing it right now
umbral reef
From what it looks RN they are focusing on the IK system
covert linden
My biggest issue is being chased by necks...
umbral reef
Atleast the beta is almost all about that
slate verge
okay there you have it.
let them focus on the IK system and eventually everything will be sorted out.
covert linden
I sadly didnt notice a performance boost
umbral reef
The neck stuff should be fixed from what i seen and heard
slate verge
what did you mean chased by necks? you mean the broken neck bug when crouching?
umbral reef
Other stuff not because of what networked IK implies and means.
covert linden
YES
slate verge
lol....its...uh....pretty weird yes. I notice that in some worlds the necks are fixed.
covert linden
Its not fixed yet on my end, I was on the other day and it was scary, unless u mean by next update.
umbral reef
The beta has not ended yet (and pushed to the live build).
So things are/should be as broken as on release
vocal shard
^
covert linden
Should or shouldnt be
umbral reef
Make it yourself or pay someone to do it.
covert linden
Oh wait I get whar u mean nvm
slate verge
try and explore more other worlds, i'm sure i've seen some broken necks fixed
umbral reef
No one is going to make some worlds because you asked it 💫
vocal shard
it's an idea, Not force Oclac
covert linden
I havent seen any fixed necks.. oclac make me a prom world
slate verge
@covert linden thats why i mentioned certain worlds :( i could try and remember the world name if you'd like
although my hunch is now telling me it could be random
covert linden
Nah its ok idk how worlds would change it
umbral reef
It would prob help hard if you can do a bug report with worlds that have the problem and dont (including avatars they can test it with)
slate verge
idk how it works either, but heck it works?
umbral reef
If its consistant and reproducable its something they can fix.
vocal shard
Nope that goes in #world-development or #world-optimization
umbral reef
It goes into the canny with a bug report as networked IK should function in all worlds not just some...
vocal shard
already is a canny for the Open-Beta
umbral reef
Including that some worlds got the problems (with names/links) and that it functions totally fine in others?
vocal shard
Tbh i never have an issue when making worlds, I'm not the best at making them but I do like teaching people how to optimize it
covert linden
Worlds seem hard.. I want so many props tho
vocal shard
depends on what you're making
covert linden
Im sad the only prom map has a pole, private rooms, and bad stuff all around it
Its like everything a highschool prom isnt suppose to have
umbral reef
Not sure what type of prom that creator had then lmao
covert linden
I concern for their prom
umbral reef
Cant say my prom followed the normal norm rule with everything that happened that day but thats a bit overkill-
covert linden
It just bothers me because the map makes me feel anxious whrn all I wanted was a prommm
We.might end up having to do prom at mcdonalds
My friend tyler was like what highschool prom has poles and private rooms!? XD and a bed on the top floor
umbral reef
Man- One day ima make music vids for my shitty ass music taste within VRchat
Would actually allow the vids i love to be done without drawing/tricks as its VRC
fiery hatch
How long does a VRChat support ticket take usually? Some gamer decided to use my old passwords and change my email and there was no warning emails or anything.... Seems they changed my name too F
No warnings no 2FA nothing lmao just straight pranked
umbral reef
Depending when you email them (i also hope you used the original email of the account) it can take up to ~2 days.
Also 2FA is being worked on and its not Vrchats job to keep people from keeping your info safe..
Dont use the same password and email combo on websites and your safe.
fiery hatch
Ofc I did, that that should be a standard by now. Leaks happen, and I used an old password and I'm sure glad I did because apparently it's out there now
@placid umbra
fiery hatch
Lmao too late
vocal shard
Just delete it then
fiery hatch
Nah they can clap my cheeks if they want
vocal shard
Aight
boreal kelp
I try and go into 'never I have ever' world and the game immediately fell apart after two questions rip
languid beacon
Yeah that’s usually par for the course
north rock
lol
placid umbra
Yep, using strong, unique passwords is really important
I mean, just check https://haveibeenpwned.com/
tribal oxide
Wait, what's going on
fiery hatch
Don't need to check, I know, I used an older password since it's only vrchat and they changed my email I just need to change it back
Just surprised how there was no warning and my email got instantly changed lul
weary lodge
Why not add two step verification or an authenticator like everyone else it cant be that hard to set up in pretty sure you could get someone to set it up for free if you guys cant
fiery hatch
Fax
slate verge
ohh i just thought of something, wouldn't it be interesting if vrchat had discord integration?
weary lodge
At least if that happened it would be harder for someone to get your account
fiery hatch
I mean even a warning that my email was gonna be changed would've been nice lol
weary lodge
Or anything g to prevent it vrchat is on a large scale like most moms maybe not as many people but people who like to take from others so adding g anything to stop it is better than being a dick and say use a stronger password like damn that's just saying I don't want to deal with your problem or Inform someone higher than me about it
rigid crescent
2FA already planned
vocal shard
They said in the develper stream they are adding 2 step authentication soon
rigid crescent
I'm so excited to see how many people get locked it their account with faulty 2FA lol
fiery hatch
Yea bet
vocal shard
Or what if it actually works fine. But everyone starts complaining that it's too much work to log in
rigid crescent
It's optional tho
Hopefully
As much as I'd like to,, I just can't imagine something being perfectly implemented first try and normally it's not too bad but this involves involves the potential for account lockout lol
Its my first thought every time I heard about 2FA for VRchat lol
weary lodge
I'm just saying there was a better way to answer onastraz instead of doing it like that like idk maybe hey we are busy atm but we will help you out soon btw two step verification will be here soon so that it wont happen again. See how much better that sounds
rigid crescent
What
weary lodge
Oh looks like I didn't add that to some of the stuff I was saying oops long day at work
rigid crescent
That's the exact answer he got here lol
umbral reef
Also to add onto the stuff aev libked
For chrome users install Google password checker and for Firefox the same. They have some breaches that haveibeenpwnd don't have.
@rigid crescent 2fa can't really be done wrong unless it's done by sms
weary lodge
The answer from the person he pinged was just yep use a stronger password instead of what I was saying anything else that you would say was answered was by everyone else who isn't even a dev
umbral reef
Devs don't give official statements in here. It's a discord, not a support place.
rigid crescent
Well he broke a rule to begin with. Shouldn't have pinged him lol
That's usually the type of answer you get when you do that 
weary lodge
I mean it's better than waiting a long time to get an email they should have set up a group to support people to make it easier
rigid crescent
It would be absolute 24/7 chaos.
And no pinging isn't better because rarely do you get a real answer just some funny quip
weary lodge
It would make it slightly easier to have people looking at emails and see the claims and deal with it than to wait days to get any results and by that time someone got your account banned anyway
rigid crescent
And no pinging isn't better because rarely do you get a real answer just some funny quip
umbral reef
No proper way to send file safely, No way to contact users again, relying on another service out of your control (so bad for any business to do), harder to prove specific things (gl proving it's you talking about your acc) and things like it being harder to logg and move the support up to other people.
rigid crescent
What you're suggesting is essentially a support group for potentially thousands of players solely run by the VRC team and only the ones involved in even answering those questions.
weary lodge
It would be like any other service say wow they have a support team to deal with it which deal with hundreds of thousands of players
rigid crescent
Did you compare Blizzard to a team of a few dozen people
umbral reef
Also. The team is already over its head with tasks. Spending more time providing support to (annoying) users (who keep asking things and want things to always be fixed) isn't realistic to do for them. They are no EA or Blizzard that can throw money for support.
rigid crescent
Not all of which are support staff
umbral reef
They have like 20 people 🤷
weary lodge
oh no fuck the people who want things fixed its like any mmo nothing is going to be perfect thats how it is im just saying a support team that deals with the hey i was hacked can you help me
rigid crescent
Hi I'm Ona give me my account please. Trust me on this.
weary lodge
well if he sent an email and then pinged a dev kinda makes sense
rigid crescent
Why should his email get priority over all the others tho
umbral reef
And the devs drop all work and should focus on that? What if someone else send an email for being hacked?
I'm all for a faster support team but they can't drop there job to provide support 24/7
weary lodge
im not saying it should but at least it get the attention of someone and at the very least if they do a temporary ban on the account nothing bad can happen
rigid crescent
But all that is achieved through just an email
Email gets their attention, email is used to possibly temp ban if needed or just restore his account to him. E Z, just takes time.
We went full circle lol
weary lodge
the point is the time it takes could have alot of problems with how some of the community am i wrong like say someone hacked your account made a huge mess you finally get it back and you log in to people crashing you left and right for being racist or something having a small team that can just temp ban while they look into it so the devs dont have to do it all the time seems efficient to me
rigid crescent
I mean makes more sense for them to go after those crashers then lol, just doesn't seem as efficient as you think.
umbral reef
Yes but they don't have a large budget or team. They can't just go temp clapping people because the ping on discord that they got hacked and by email.. well you get what we have now.
The problem is that there team is already too small for the task and that they can't take things as fast as people want.
rigid crescent
I mean the simpler solution is expanding their support team. Bam done.
Not doing all this side Ping Police stuff
fiery hatch
Facts
umbral reef
@rigid crescent will you cough up the budget for the guy long therm, teach him the ropes so others won't have to and find him?
rigid crescent
No I'm lazy
Tldr money is the root of all evil and employees must be paid
It's dumb to pay ping police who in turn are just pinging real staff to ban your account temporarily
fiery hatch
Ban me daddy
rigid crescent
Expanding the support team whenever it's viable seems like s better idea since it would lower response time but that's s given lol
Same tbh
fiery hatch
Guys literally sitting in my account in a world rn friends+ lul
rigid crescent
LOL
umbral reef
How 'fun' it sounds. Giving copy paste answers is actually efficient for most cases and speeds up times.
rigid crescent
Go hang out with him
fiery hatch
With a fukin world avatar too
rigid crescent
"hi can I add you I don't have any friends I got hacked "
fiery hatch
Don't wanna trigger him he'll probs delete all my friends and say the n word in a pug
fiery hatch
4 years ok this is epic
umbral reef
He already send an email so they can just check it in his appeal.
vocal shard
Imagine not having a 4 year ban in vrchat in 2019
near walrus
yo nice acc bruh
vocal shard
inno a cutie
near walrus
bakers 🕵
weary lodge
hey at least in the bio its says onas name lol
fiery hatch
Feelsbad
near walrus
new alt acc 💤
weary lodge
nah its gets funnier
tribal oxide
Wait wha
boreal kelp
I'll have to get past my anxiety of approaching groups of people 
fiery hatch
❓
weary lodge
just do what i do drink and then open up with a bad pickup line
boreal kelp
I often don't talk unless someone says my username
weary lodge
listen here ok the best way to make friends is to get that liquid courage in you and just be you
would you like me to show you the ropes?
boreal kelp
I haven't drank any alcohol yet in my life though I asked my IRL friends earlier this year what drinks are low in alcoholic content and stuff
weary lodge
oh i can help you with that no problem send me a dm ill get you some ideas
tribal oxide
Henlo
weary lodge
henlo
tribal oxide
What is up.
weary lodge
not much how about you?
tribal oxide
Just editing a model
though Unity wants to be a jerk and not let me put it into blender.
Grr
boreal kelp
Dumb question but where does VRChat staff stand on skimpy bikini avatars
boreal kelp
I've seen quite a few avatars with bikinis and I guess as long as no nipple or vag can be seen, its not an issue
weary lodge
not entirely sure but as long as its not nude i dont think its a problem
karmic parcel
Hello
tribal oxide
Here it is, and hello
Eyes: Let's change that here, Changes face to a yellow color Beautiful eyes.
north rock
@boreal kelp I will invade your world daily just to specifically say your entire screen name
Will that be sufficient
weary lodge
can we all do this
uneven cloak
Hello
weary lodge
hello
vocal shard
Hi
weary lodge
hello
desert patio
can anyone help me get ahold of the car prefab?
uneven cloak
It's in the Car Forum
gleaming tulip
Why is VRChat all the sudden requiring me to download the home world everytime I log in? It never did that before and stored it in the cache. Fixes or is it a bug for everyone right now?
uneven cloak
Hmm I Don't Know That
:/
covert linden
rule 15 cough @gleaming tulip
vocal shard
vocal shard
No spoilers but has anyone figured out that Northern Apartment world yet?
The bioshock one.
queen mango
Haven't yet
vocal shard
Been there several hours now and nothing.
vocal shard
obviously everyone else is having this issue where you just walk like a statue every time you people move
vocal shard
Meh
strange plume
indeed meh
small wing
Making a VR avatar that can see in 3rd person lol
Yes i know its a bad idea. No i don't care. xD
I get really dumb ideas all the time like this so its gonna be fun actually doing them even if they will lead to me puking all over the place. owo
slate verge
do whatever makes you happy
slate verge
i questioned some people about making non-humanoid avatars sometimes
chilly kettle
Anyone know how long it typically takes support to get back to you, if someone somehow managed to steal your account? Not exactly how I was planning on spending my birthday..
slate verge
sad life when your crush ignores you
covert linden
sad life when ur crush is gonna be finishing college and getting a career but all u want is attention
gloomy remnant
and yet again, i join a public lobby and my screen turns white followed by white noise even though i have everything turned off in safety settings 
covert linden
white noise yum time 2 nap
if your system cant handle vrchat safety settings cant help ya there :P
austere pecan
Any reason my videos wouldn't be working?
vocal shard
Sometimes YouTube changes something with how it links videos and when they do that it breaks in vrchat. It's happened a few times already
lament gull
kindred briar
@weak lantern vrchat only uses the default microphone you've set.
if your mic is not set as default device it won't use it.
And if you're in desktop mode you need to press the v key to talk.
weak lantern
Its on it
Rift oculus and tried my others SOundblasterX and Oboard
I know about the settings
Disabled all other inputs and still nothing
I have deleted VRchat, Cache and Reg keys. nope nothing
tender scaffold
wait can u play vr on laptop?
weak lantern
vr
tender scaffold
VRChat*
cold talon
If the laptop is beefy enough, yea
tender scaffold
okay
weak lantern
Shame i cant play anymore
weak lantern
yes
5 days ago it stopped on and off but rift mic is fine on other apps
Its a bug in game
Or a bug with game and Win10 update at some point
kindred briar
so the normal mic (not the one of the oculus) does not work either?
weak lantern
Normal mic also in vr mode does not work
Auto actvation stopped
It works in other games not prob
weak lantern
I have a VR i should not have to
kindred briar
well it's to troubleshoot
weak lantern
Nope not working
kindred briar
not even your normal mic? hm
weak lantern
nope
kindred briar
try reinstalling vrchat then i guess :/ must be some file missing
weak lantern
Did that over 6 times
kindred briar
🤔
weak lantern
Even added game into virus app to ignore
pure python
Did you verify integrity of the game?
kindred briar
doesnt really matter with reinstall xd
weak lantern
........
pure python
Well, it shuold be the first thing you do before reinstalling
kindred briar
you should send a mail to support to help you
weak lantern
Did that and got same as what you told me
Might be better to avoid vrchat for afew updates
Comeback around Aug
rigid crescent
you email support?
final zodiac
Anyone know if it's possible to re-do the boundary tracing stage for SteamVR? I just made a bit more space in my room for my base stations so I kind of want to re do it to expand
vocal shard
yeah it should be under settings and chaperone
final zodiac
Ah great
finite kraken
so i was super bored decided to join a random public pug and as soon as i go in it kicks me out for being maxed and the next instance of public pug before i could do anythhing in there i crashed
neat wyvern
Yeah VRChat's a bit unstable atm in terms of connection. As for how stable, it differs between people.
vocal shard
Hello?
polar elm
Hi
vocal shard
Hey, whats up
tribal oxide
Hello, it's all good
vocal shard
well, this is odd... just had some guy named pengoo follow me to other worlds after i blocked him
how is that possible? we were not friends
is there some kind of hacked client that lets you do that?
tacit plank
If the world is public, and maybe friends+ (unless that was fixed) anyone can join it directly
And since the API knows which world anyone is in, they use modified clients which sends them there directly
runic hound
servers down?
vocal shard
is using a modified client against TOS?
umbral reef
Yes
vocal shard
umbral reef
Use #moderation-reports instead- No need to witch hunt someone without proof (or with proof even)
vocal shard
well, right after i blocked him he immediately followed me to my new world and cloned me
no idea why, but i disconnected after that
i heard someone saying his name is how i knew and checked the list
after that i couldn't go to any worlds for some reason and had to delete cache
but there is no way to get proof
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
runic hound
Jesus Christ Fix the Servers please
delicate ice
Bruh moment
tribal oxide
Sqerk
vocal shard
has anyone else been having issues loading in to the pug?
languid beacon
type the correct password forehead
covert linden
LOL
languid beacon
Yeah that’s not a thing. Do forgot password
covert linden
It actually is a thing..
languid beacon
Forgot password doesn’t tell you your password...
covert linden
I think someone said changing their pass worked but im not 100%, they mightve said it didnt
There actually is an issue where people are incapable of logging in, when their credentials are all correct. ive seen it quiteee a bit as of recent
languid beacon
Yes, but they get a different error. He’s getting the password is wrong error.
It’s hard to help someone who is angry but, for serious, double check the spelling of the account name. If you have ever changed your name, you must use the original name.
jolly gorge
languid beacon
Fixed? >_> so what did it turn out to be
velvet iris
It would be nice if VRChat could team up with IMVU.
languid beacon
Plonk
velvet iris
So avatar building can be modular.
north rock
I don't know much about IMVU but the scope of creative freedom certainly seemed more limited in scope than the typical in VRC
With that said, I guess an in-game means of character creation couldn't necessarily hurt, in any event
Not that I would personally use an avatar created through such means, I'm just fine with my bounty of avatars, courtesy of asset pirates
boreal kelp
What issues is the Great Pug having
north rock
1: it's themed after the worst breed of dog
languid beacon
Yeah IMVU works because everything is forced to use the same skeleton
That strongly limits creativity
near sky
It's avatar creation by-element
tribal oxide
Henlo
near sky
Similar with Secondlife if I'm correct; avatar creation done by-element (seperate body mesh, clothing mesh, and all). Elements added onto a base, the base even being an interchangable element. - Real strength for easy customization by-part; expect it's also not excellent for performance so I don't know if the trade off makes sense. Maybe.
tribal oxide
Yes, um, hello to you too
near sky
Responding to above. 😋
tribal oxide
I know, I was joking ^-^
bronze cape
Did the Quest release add a whole bunch of optimisations to the PC version too? Feel like I'm hitting 60fps a lot more in busy scenarios now
north axle
Weeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Let's just say VRChat is still in Early Access.
So whatever happens happens.
languid beacon
Yes there were lots of optimizations for Quest and many of them carried over to PC. Let’s leave it at that. 😄
bronze cape
Well that's good, since I'm still waaaaaaaaay under spec for a lot of VR stuff 😅
languid beacon
The community is very divided on that but glad to hear you are getting better FPS!
covert linden
Wasnt it just the networked ik :P
languid beacon
Just let him enjoy this 😃
covert linden
I gained no fps from networked ik, sad day
slate verge
didn't had any difference for me, but i do feel as though it may have been optimized a little.
tribal oxide
Where am I?
slate verge
what do you mean where are you?
tribal oxide
I'm lost
tribal orbit
Well you’re not in Kansas anymore
covert linden
Instead youre in Arkansas
bronze cape
Must depend on where you are in the world if it's network related then. Usually end up hanging out with a diverse international crowd thanks to being in the UK, which used to result in a load of issues
covert linden
That doesnt really make sense
The networked ik, It doesnt matter if im playing with Australians and Germans, Im not gonna lose fps... from that lol
bronze cape
High ping will absolutely tank performance though
bronze cape
Same difference though innit
tribal orbit
Ping lag is not that big of an issue compared to FPS lag
bronze cape
You get a lot of ping stuttering, it's going to reflect in the fps graph
Which for me, was getting to the point where I couldn't be in a room with more than 10 people without serious issues
covert linden
Thats not a ping issue thats your system being unable to handle the game :P
tribal orbit
^
covert linden
if youre getting like 11-25fps, and the games lagging hardcore, like, Frames wise, it aint the ping
bronze cape
But those issues are gone now, and the lowest it ever dips is 60fps
So either the issues were network related, or there were some performance optimisations passed down from the Quest version
covert linden
The networked Ik is HARDER on your network.
But its better on performance, it was a system fault before, and now, the game is easier on your system.
bronze cape
So both then
rigid crescent
No? Neither technically
near sky
Mh
rigid crescent
The fps issues weren't network related and nothing was "passed down" from the quest version
bronze cape
But Rea literally just said the issues were network related
rigid crescent
You're not calculating the IK for everyone in the room any more.
covert linden
The issues werent networked related, I said they were system.
I said your system couldnt handle the way the game did things.
The networked ik, is why it runs better in big rooms for you now
near sky
Instead it's done and sent over the network > being calculated locally; saves the performance load at the costs of spending the extra bandwidth fetching IK information
bronze cape
You people are absolutely terrible at explaining things
rigid crescent
Except I explained it perfectly.
near sky
Depends on where the person's point of understanding is -it was clear as far as I'm concerned
'Several people are typing..' Here we go, now
rigid crescent
Dang mute you rite. I'm not gonna do it to em for once lol
covert linden
You used to calculate everyone ik on your own system, now, you absorb it via the network, and it makes it easier on your system. Thus, the issues before, was your system being unable to handle vrchat, and now, its easier due to that.
covert linden
LOL YES
rigid crescent
:foxevrDERP:
bronze cape
The way I see it, changes were made to the way networking is done, boosting performance. I don't really care about the technicalities of it, only the fact it's much more playable in busy rooms now.
rigid crescent
You're wrong so
rigid crescent
I mean that's not why lol
shell trench
How about that hitler guy yeah?
near sky
How about Mao's China, eh?
lunar shell
No
near sky
What do you guys think of the human condition?
bronze cape
@near sky Overrated
rigid crescent
What a wya to go
alpine flame
hey, does anyone know how to fix the issue with karaoke central songs not loading?
shell trench
Yeah i do!
alpine flame
oh really? could you help me?
shell trench
First open it up
Next, grabs a heater
Last, Turn it to max and watch it burn
Then everything gets lit
alpine flame
i excepted an actual response because i'm quite pissed but okay
shell trench
Sorry sorry
covert linden
Try a different map and see if those video players are working
shell trench
I was trying to light up the mood =-=
covert linden
I had a friend who couldnt ever load karaoke world videos, then most if us who has to wait like 5 minutes to hear it. Odd map
umbral reef
@alpine flame try the steps in #vrchat-support first.
Else try staying in the world for a fair while as it can be the songs have still to download
And just to be sure, what windows are you running?
shell trench
Yeah it depends on what you’re using
alpine flame
the thing is that other world's videos work, it's just something with karaoke central
and i have windows 10
covert linden
Try waiting for it all to load for 5-10 min
shell trench
It’s probably just the server
covert linden
I had a friend who waited an hour till it loaded. Loaded after the hour tho
north rock
Can confirm loading that popular karaoke world is cancer
alpine flame
i waited for more than 30 already though
shell trench
@covert linden my point
covert linden
Sometimes it takes forever to load. My one friend cant even load it no matter how long hes there. Listen to oclac and tryy whats in #vrchat-support
alpine flame
oh well, it might also be because there's something wrong with my fps as well
and okay, i didn't really know where i should type this problem because i don't know this server that much
shell trench
@alpine flame Or it could just be the server
covert linden
Its not gonna be the servwr
That world itself is cancer to load as Atwy said
How much fps do you have Ochre?
covert linden
Thats not a server issue tho..
alpine flame
the most i can get is like 30, but usually around 15, and sometimes 5 (in murder especially)