And most ISP's are shit by base
Also using wifi means the odds of dropping packets or having a low transfer rate what can mean it failing
#vrchat-general-2
umbral reef
dusk mesa
Besides that never happens
umbral reef
Can be the vrchat servers get more touchy between peek times OR that your ISP gets heaps more networking tasks what means they slack
plush osprey
theres only 3 things i can change for it in the advanced settings.. not sure what i could do to improve it..
dusk mesa
I would love if they remove the "pop up" what says that your connecting timeout ect.. BECAUSE this actualy makes it annoying when I try to join someone. Before it just didnt load or took a while to load, but now this window pop up and you cant even load :(
covert quartz
im literally trying to load into worlds right now and i cant
ping me when they update the game to make it work
umbral reef
Fo real- try just restarting your router and getting a new IP/dns service because of it
umbral reef
🤷 refuse the help your getting for free and enjoy the problems for a long time i guess
plush osprey
or i didn't tighten the antennas on the back enough.. could be that or a slight change in voltage can also effect it, i have my pc plugged into a power surge protector strip
fervent gale
Guys zero two or minecraft
covert quartz
yer right i need to foward my ports, get a dedicated server, buy a 2nd PC just to run this game
instead of the devs fixing it, you right
its not like its their job or anything
oh shit it is..
lost nimbus
hey, is kicking/warning people as admin bugged at the moment?
dusk mesa
Fixing bugs takes time, cant expect that it happens within a day, often it can take even longer
umbral reef
I hate when people say it but
'Dont like it? Play another game then'
dusk mesa
@lost nimbus its bugged, yes. Couldnt kick someone either since a weeek
lost nimbus
good to know, thanks
plush osprey
?
covert quartz
the kick bug has been a thong for months
lavender is a vrc contender
hopefully it boosts the vrc devs to work harder
plush osprey
yea, so is a few others as well
covert quartz
ok ill admit i shouldnt trash the devs, but someome is fucking this game to death idk who it is but someone is
plush osprey
they should have used game models for Vrchat bc MMD models are a hell of a lot bigger than video game models when it comes to poly count
covert quartz
MMDs are the best, 500k dynamic bones yes pls, but thank fuck they added a fgeature to kill that
dusk mesa
Lol
plush osprey
when there are not a lot of dynamic bones with colliders its fine. it gets bad when there are like 500 colliders doing checks to make sure there not clipping through anything, then you'll get lag
umbral reef
Or them fur shaders 👌
polar jasper
The fur shader is better if you really want to compare it with dynamic bone
plush osprey
fur shaders got better for me, i haven't lost frames too badly looking at them
dusk mesa
i just started to optimize my models 👌 i am on Medium, but thats just bc i have a small amount of bones on my hair :3 no Colliders or anything
umbral reef
@polar jasper For sure but it aint a lightweight on pc's mainly if its more then one material with it and its not xiexie's shader
dusk mesa
@polar jasper stop lagging me Nor 🌝
polar jasper
Oh yeah the one on the asset store and the other gimmick fur shader ain’t good.
I don’t have fur on my main model 😛
plush osprey
colliders are fine @dusk mesa, the only thing you should worry about is how many you use, you can still have long hair act realistically without killing anyone around you
dusk mesa
The requirement is no colliders at all, i think.. so when you have two as example in your hands, you already on Poor or Very Poor 👀 i also dont know why people need colliders to play with there boobs or hair, pointless to me. ( at least for me ) if you use colliders in your body, to stop something from Clipping, just lower the dynamic bones and you dont need colliders. It doesnt have to be ALL super crazy.
plush osprey
the reason why you go poor to very poor when you use colliders is bc the status takes your worse one and puts that worse status as your avatars performance rating, everything can be solid green but if u have 2 or 3 colliders its going to be poor or very poor, the avatar rating thing is extremely flawed @dusk mesa
dusk mesa
I know that. Still think Colliders are overused. There are models with 15-20Colliders.. and its actually really stupid.
plush osprey
not to me, i got a saved avatar that has colliders in its hair and body, i rly like how the hair acts bc of it
plush osprey
i'll get in vrchat, want to see the avatar? my name is the same in vrchat as in here
dusk mesa
Cant get on rn, gotta wait for my mom to pick up my child, then i can
plush osprey
how long will you be then?
polar jasper
It all depends on the group you are with and how many. Like yesterday there was a person with 67 materials and 5 meshes including dynamic bones. Now I’d be more than happy with that few bone collides than this avatar
dusk mesa
My mom might be here in a hour
LOL 67 Materials
Look at #vrchat-pictures
Imma show u what Tinus found 😂
plush osprey
alright.. im going to disable my card and put my wifi dongle back in, brb
polar jasper
Could use more materials. Other than that it’s perfect @dusk mesa
dusk mesa
LMAO what xD
polar jasper
/s if that wasn’t obvious enough 😛
dusk mesa
Dont bully me Nor 😩
plush osprey
i use to use a wifi usb dongle, i recently got a new wifi card but since then i've been having connection issues trying to load into worlds
plush osprey
nope, im not going to have a cord trail from my room all the way down to my router
from where everything is placed its just not possible for me
polar jasper
Have you done some WiFi tests to see when and how good the connection is?
plush osprey
i always have full bars but my stupid laptop has 10x the range though
polar jasper
What’s your ping then? Having high ping based on location + WiFi can do that
plush osprey
my ping is 25ms
polar jasper
Then I got no clue
plush osprey
alright, i'll be right back
there, now im going through the dongle i have, gonna try joining a world i had trouble with earlier
pliant sequoia
I click the test of the world, it loads the old version of the world, tried public through another ip does not allow at all on the map
Help what happens?
polar jasper
But @dusk mesa that avatar isn’t the worst I’ve seen. So a bit glad the quest is out so that more will fix their avatars ^_^
plush osprey
and same issue, so its not from my wifi card from possibly over heating, it is on Vrchats end
polar jasper
@pliant sequoia test world as in the SDK or in game?
I know VRC is very strict (was more before) on that.
So could be why
plush osprey
using my dongle made no change
pliant sequoia
I do not understand, can be more specific :О
polar jasper
Send a support email then Panic. It shouldn’t happen if you got green connection and minimal packet loss
@pliant sequoia you are doing this in Unity?
pliant sequoia
Yes
dusk mesa
@polar jasper eh dont believe in that. People dont care
pliant sequoia
I run the test through the unit
polar jasper
Make sure you click New and not last
@dusk mesa not the general public no. But in the groups I’m in people are actually asking how to do stuff to get them quest compatible or just lower on the performance in general. So depends on the group I guess ^_^
polar jasper
Check the unity console for errors then. If you got errors there it will load the last working one
shy sun
👋
frank lichen
That feel you’ve been playing vrchat for 1 and half years and have vr and full body. But a client user comes up and 4 year bans you.
inner cape
I dont think that's possible really
theres a log out and a fake ban message but they can't actually ban you 
flat brook
It's kinda crazy being limited to 5k poly for quest imo
polar jasper
No it's not =/
flat brook
Something better should be worked out to manage it at least imo
umbral reef
Its almost like MMD's are stupidly badly optimized for functioning in VR and are used for making short, small miku miku dance clips...
The 5K limit is far from high if you know what your doing. At first i laughed at it myself but its fairly insane.
flat brook
Yeah I agree, but I'm saying there should be some level of manager
polar jasper
The quest has 4 GB vram, where VRChat only gets to use 2GB in total
flat brook
To stay within the headsets limits for each level
Say if only your friends were on it'd allow them, but if multiple users were on it'd allow some users
Which it does for some extent
polar jasper
Also, you aren't limited to 5k, it's the recommended
flat brook
Oh so quest can go beyond 5k>
umbral reef
It can but its not recommended at all
flat brook
Yeah I agree, idk what processor they have but it'd be pretty low end
It's nice to see better optimization at least
umbral reef
It uses an better 'optimized' actively cooled snapdragon 835
Aka what most modern phones have
And look at other Vr games, the limits of that are not too bad. Its just that users dont know how to make properly optimized content most of the time.
flat brook
Its suprising what snapdragon mobile cpu can achieve tbh
2ghz 8 core mobile is pretty crazy imdo
polar jasper
You got to look at the whole picture. Avatar's aren't the only thing you see on the screen
Everything has a draw call
flat brook
Yeah gpu is a whole other level
polar jasper
The more it is the worse it gets
umbral reef
The 855 is perfect for XR and AR.
Once that thing gets used in a standalone headset im all on board for it
flat brook
I feel people don't even remotely understand how unoptimized their avatars are
umbral reef
As the jump between performance and extra's from 855 and 845/835 is insane really
boreal kelp
@rose timber While bond is moving in that Goldeneye gif, I meant will it ever be possible to have a custom crouch idle animation like that in the future
vocal shard
i did it, i sold a thing and i can afford a rift s now :D
should i buy it straight from oculus.com?
and is now a good time to buy?
broken quartz
There is never a not good time to buy
If you end upp waiting you'll just get attracted ot the next new vr headset, and then you'll be asking this question again
vocal shard
okok just wanted to make sure there isnt something im not aware of that might make it a bad purchase
broken quartz
Mmmm there is something
Once you pick up VR and use it for VRC the liklihood of you playing anything else goes out the window
placid zealot
Are you 100% sure your computer can handle vr?
vocal shard
yeah i'm 99% sure that wont be a problem
i have a 1070 thats overclocked to about the same as a 1080
quiet dew
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 7642 users in VRChat currently
broken quartz
Unless you can find a better deal from a different store, nothing wrong with getting it from oculus. I'm pretty sure you'll have a better time warranty wise with them too
vocal shard
will I have tracking from oculus.com?
broken quartz
I did for my rift
topaz lance
Just got yeeted out of the game because someone manage to make every item in the great pug spawn in one place at the exact same time
Guess it's my fault for joining a public pub server but, really?
vocal shard
Ordered :D
broken quartz
😄
split dove
I just ordered VR, so excited!
wise gate
Hey, sorry to hop in but what would the best graphics card be for running VRChat with the HTC vive?
currently i have the gtx 1050 ti, but the steamvr peformance test says it may not work with the vr
ivory axle
im not sure with the vive but i have a 1070 and steamvr performance says its perfect with oculus
harsh star
I have a 1060 6GB and don't get any performance warnings.
umbral reef
1060 6GB and up is a safe bet
wise gate
alright thank you ^^
ruby burrow
@wise gate Your 1050 ti will work, but is on the bottom of what you'll want overall. I use a 960 myself and have been enjoying VR-Chat for nearly a year now well enough.
Since VR-Chat is bottlenecked by the CPU more than the GPU, you can get away with less than most VR games.
So it's plenty worth considering an upgrade, but not essential. Most VR games will work on a 1050ti so long as you turn the settings down.
wise gate
so i should just focus on buying the Headset instead of buying better stuff for my pc?
ruby needle
If you are not looking into FBT at this point the Rift S might be the better choice.
OG Vive is outdated.
wise gate
my thing on the SteamVR evaluation got in the middle of capable.
rose timber
@boreal kelp a custom crouch like that would require overriding the ik. You can do that right now with a generic rig, but you wouldn't have hands in VR (not a problem if you are on desktop only). In the future, we are considering methods for allowing you to customize your ik.
wise gate
ruby needle
One thing to also make sure is that you have a Decent CPU and good amount of ram. Lower then 16GB is quickly gonna be a pain.
One thing to also make sure is that you have a Decent CPU and good amount of ram. Lower then 16GB is quickly gonna be a pain.
wise gate
so. What would you say is a decent CPU?
ruby needle
What CPU do you have, is the better question.
wise gate
gtx 1050 ti
ruby needle
CPU
ruby needle
You Processor (CPU) not Graphics card (GPU) 
ok, but which model
the numbers behind the i7 are the interesting stuff
wise gate
i took a screenshot, where do i put image
ruby needle
Online filehoster
wise gate
ruby needle
yeah the 7700 is more then decent
wise gate
ok, so i just need to get more ram?
ruby needle
how much do you have?
wise gate
8 + 4 on the graphics card
wise gate
oh
wise gate
so then just 8
ruby needle
yes
you wanna double that but if you close everything when playing you might be good enogh to start out with that tho
Still, i would recommend to not get into a vive at this point
It's a outdated HMD
(Unless you buy a used one for a really good price point that is)
wise gate
Yeah, so the new rift is the best option?
ruby needle
The best option would be the Valve Index but you can buy 2 rifts s's and a cheap WMR for the same money 
(its expensive)
wise gate
yeah, im looking for a balance between quality and price. So rift s seems to be the best in that aspect
ruby needle
Definitely
wise gate
Does rift s have full body tracking?
ruby needle
No
But FBT and price balance doesnt work together.
Tho, it's unknown if it might get FBT oculus has never really said anything out but they do FBT research and nobody knows if they will publish something that goes in that direction.,
inner cape
oi, mira, why do you play so rarely 😔
ruby needle
Work 
wise gate
oh ok. can you explain to me what exactly full body tracking is? Does it just mean my actions inside games are more accurate or something?
sterile summit
Tracks your legs and hips
ruby needle
full body tracking means tracking everything from head to leg
Rift S ofc has controllers and normal head / arm movement
wise gate
Oh. So i wont need it to play VRChat?
ruby needle
no
sterile summit
You never need it
wise gate
oh good. So all i need to get is more ram and the rift s. I'll probably have to rearrange my room though
sterile summit
You can sit down and play it
ruby needle
less fun tho
wise gate
i'd rather stand up though ^^
ruby needle
In the long run you do want to upgrade your GPU tho
sterile summit
I play standing without really moving my legs at all
ruby needle
but its good enogh to start with. 
sterile summit
Anyone have updates for the Quest poly limit?
ruby needle
Updates?
sterile summit
Like info
ruby needle
normal shell
Anyway to launch oculus vrchat with steam vr?
umbral reef
If you use oculus you can use the oculus store version
ruby burrow
Freedom to stand and walk around is a vital component of VR in my opinion.
Doesn't seem right at all how some only ever play sitting, and always facing the same direction.
Kept seeing comments on Quest videos hyping up the fact that it had roomscale, coming from CV-1 Rift owners. Might be a bit late now with it being discontinued, but I just wanted to tell them to get the damn third sensor.
Literally all non phone VR has roomscale. It's a vital feature but not a special one. >_>
Should have been part of a new bundle for Oculus the same day they added the touch controllers. 3 Sensor bundle. The new standard package.
lone glacier
im running a vive so yeah...
atomic tusk
if they keep bringing up the fact quest has roomscale remind them of one fact: Mobile CPU
vocal shard
That's a different market though. If they have a VR PC they would be looking at the Rift S or index.
Mobile CPU isn't really a concern of it's the only thing they have.
ruby burrow
The one main concern with the mobile CPU is just that many customers don't quite understand the relevance of it.
It's great for what it does, but I have seen even reviewers that have brushed right over it.
Including one that was straight up saying that the Quest is outright "better" than the Rift and Vive (whilst seeming to ignore Rift-S even). And talking about it like it's a total replacement.
Fortunately there were plenty of comments from people pointing out that it wasn't a valid way of comparing them, and that both have their place.
But the nature of Quest's full 360 degree roomscale is still the most important thing about it to me.
I was overly harsh on it early on, basically focusing too much on the idea of people buying it and then being disappointed after discovering the parts of the PC-VR scene that they'd be locked out of.
Which still remains a concern, but the more relevant thing to me now, is that it won't disappoint anyone in terms of showing them what VR is really about.
It makes some compromises, but overall is only going to make people want more from VR, not put them off of it.
I kept thinking about it in terms of being $400 wasted that would be better put towards a PC and PC-VR to go with it, but people do need that hook first.
And if that $400 helps put them on the market for would-be VR developers to start considering as a viable audience, then that's still valuable in it's own right.
boreal kelp
@rose timber Is a generic rig harder to do compared to humanoid?
ruby burrow
@boreal kelp Generic rigs cannot be animated via the games normal animations (walking, crouching etc), or animated via VR IK either.
Which basically means you have to apply your own animations for all movements, or else it's a static model.
So overall far harder, if you want it to actually move.
boreal kelp
I've got a few animations made, though will I lose the eye movement/blink that I configured in CATS?
umbral reef
Main problem i have with the quest isnt the tech itself but more that its locked down from devs
So you get the worse anti dev platform that wants to take over a big new market
ruby burrow
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that aspect at all.
Feels like they're baiting people into buying one via the price tag, and then slapping $30 price tags for very simple games on people.
umbral reef
And the worse part is.
You cant even suggest a game and then make it after they accept the idea
Because the odds of you being turned down is apparently leaps higher
ruby burrow
After customers have spent a couple hundred on Oculus store titles, they're then basically trapped on Oculus if they ever want to upgrade their headset, or else they lose access to their games.
boreal kelp
I guess I'll live without custom crouch for now
umbral reef
That also- Some games can be transfered from PC to Quest from what i understood
ruby burrow
Yeah, certain Oculus store titles still work on Quest far as I understand, and will just install the appropriate version.
But I more meant if they want to swap to another brand of headset, they can't take any of that library with them.
Is a sly way of forcing artificial brand loyalty, that most won't consider until already locked into it.
I've been opposed to the concept since day one of hearing about the Oculus store years ago.
cinder citrus
we have any news when Networked IK is being reverted back? >_>
covert linden
It wont be
cinder citrus
or atleast made to work correctly
rather than being in a lobby of statues, or people doing stop-motion
velvet quarry
A new open beta was released yesterday to start working towards fixing those problems.
#open-beta-info
misty jewel
Hello I had a question why was the choice made to allow people to see me after I blocked them it's been leading to some harassment issues.
covert linden
when I block people they cant see me
misty jewel
They used to not be able to till this last patch
i've tested it multiple times now because I was thinking it was a glitch at first
covert linden
It has to be
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/latest-release Because I cant find it in the release docs
misty jewel
Multiple friends are saying the same thing so if it is a bug needs to get fixed but yeah it seems to be happening to everyone I know my friend was complaining because a dude was player blocking him from portals even after blocked
normal shell
I prefer the Oculus version because of better performance on oculus but I still want to use steam vr for full body with Kinect, so is there a way to launch oculus version with steam vr?
vocal shard
so my wife is experiencing VRC with the Vive for the first time, she is in love with it lol
Glad to hear her experience wasn't bad first impressions are important especially on this game
covert linden
@misty jewel Put it on a canny under bug reports
vocal shard
Generic soundcloud rapper
umbral reef
Not sure how this is Vrchat related 🤔
vocal shard
It just works
covert quartz
Thanks quest
covert quartz
Really glad all 5 of you can use vrc
vocal shard
Just don't have latency problems 
covert quartz
Works on my machine vrc is fine 🙂
vocal shard
This is fine 😃
Network IK was thoroughly tested and totally wasn't released to early 🙃
covert quartz
"The new IK worked for 2 users so we uploaded it to everyone"
vocal shard
Lets release something that worked for 100 users and expect it to work perfectly fine for 6000+ people 🙃
covert quartz
Idk they are trying to fix it now, but i dont expect much lol
covert quartz
How long has the camera been buggy and laggy, how long has the kicking feature been buggy
Actually it isnt buggy, it doesnt work*
vocal shard
You wanna talk about how long something's been broken why don't you try invites
covert quartz
Would be nice to kick people who particle spam n such
fallow sable
Is the game just in ruins right now?
umbral reef
So we made cameras only work for friends so people cant steal your POV
So ey- we fixed that POV thing
Nah, now camera's are fully broken- What do you mean wanting it to work for everyone again?
vocal shard
Nah it's always broken
fallow sable
Haven't played in a little while.
vocal shard
Just slightly more broken than usual
covert quartz
^
vocal shard
S l i g h t l y
fallow sable
Sounds a lot more than "slightly".
covert quartz
Im getting an issues of friends being ranomly muted
vocal shard
That's been a problem since before the network IK update
Or at least for me it has been
vocal shard
Tod Howard would be proud
fallow sable
he really would
vocal shard
This is why we can't have nice things 🙃
Like functioning limbs that don't look like they're being played on a broken cd
night lark
3
vocal shard
4
vocal shard
POV?
broken quartz
Point of view. Basically everyone looks through a camera that you have put on your model
vocal shard
Cause that isn't disorienting or nauseating
broken quartz
Essentially had a zombies head on my avatar that I would grab by the hair, and when I gestured it would make everyone look through its eyes
Vrchat was a lawless place but only 15 months ago
Hahahaha
vocal shard
Still kinda is
broken quartz
It's much much better now though. The safety update is by far the best thing to happen
umbral reef
Is it?
broken quartz
You don't think it is??
umbral reef
Well would i ask it if i agree'd?
broken quartz
How is it not? Want to run the risk of people joining with obnoxious avatars that kill your ears, or frames, or whatever?
vocal shard
I think an update where people wouldn't be able to grab your ip would be the the best update tbh
broken quartz
Then so be it. Some people don't, though, so what do you know they can block ot
The only people who sp adamantly hate the update are people who HAVE those kind of avatars and are annoyed that 50% of the player base doesnt get affected
I have everyone below friends blocked on all but voice. If they come across as not a tool, I'll show their avatar. If they hang around a bit, I'll show their avatar. It's no loss to me to have the majority safety'd out because it's no hassle in just showing them when I want to
umbral reef
Pretty sure the mass people unblocking me dont agree with the statement that the only people who hate it have that stuff
vocal shard
Just don't have your avatar hidden by people
rotund wren
@broken quartz Some of the reasons we have the safety system is so people that use 'POV Stealing' are neutralised because anything that moves, shakes or changes your screen in VR is annoying and can be very sickening.
broken quartz
I.. know..?
x_x
I'm an advocate
What do you mean by, "the mass people unblocking me"? Surely they can just turn off the safety feature that blocks [user level] features? 🤔
Or.. perhaps.. they enjoy the safety blocking the majority of avatar features brings?
umbral reef
I have no safety stuff turned on at all and running fine in the game with public lobies
Im more talking about the insane amount of users who do judge on ranks and fully block some ranks while not doing others. And the unintended bias that results from doing that.
broken quartz
I still fail to see a downside here
umbral reef
Pre judge against a user caused from a system that is only effective if you block everyone from all ranks...
vocal shard
Prejudice is always gonna be present imo not much you can really do about it besides just getting rid of trusted and known users
broken quartz
There is, quite literally, no downside to having the safety feature in place. The only people who are negatively affected by it are people who have the obnoxious avatars.
umbral reef
Well thats exactly the thing bully
Also i love how your accusing my of having obnoxious avatars lmao
broken quartz
Is a grey user having their avatar hidden facing any negative impact other than.. one person not seeing their avatar (until they are unhidden)?
I'm not accusing you of anything..?
covert linden
I have no safetyon as well and run into 0 issues
broken quartz
Kudos to you!
umbral reef
Im against the system and you said more then once that people who are against the system have obnoxious avatars...
Also yes- Id suggest you play in public lobies with a higher ranked account for a while, its not that bad most of the time. Far from even, its fun.
Then start a fully new account and realize people ignore you leaps more and wont unblock you as fast as your not high ranked.
vocal shard
I run avatars off for visitors but for all other ranks everything is turned on
covert linden
The safety settings needs to be tweaked. a truzted user can be more dangerous than visitor
broken quartz
I didn't say that anyone who is against the system has obnoxious avatars at all, though.
umbral reef
@vocal shard Legit no reason to have that
vocal shard
Actually there kind of is
umbral reef
Its legit better to do it the other way around 😂
broken quartz
Are you actually reading what I'm saying, or just imagining words on the screen?
covert linden
Visitors cant even upload
broken quartz
They can pick up avatars though
vocal shard
Visitors can't upload so I would rather not see basic world models and just have them hidden Oclac
covert linden
How easily is a visitor gonna find a crasher avatar oppose to any other rank
umbral reef
Only from public avatar worlds
broken quartz
Or from people who clone
umbral reef
What means they still need an acc to upload crash stuff on-
broken quartz
🤔
umbral reef
With that logic you can just as good block all ranks
covert linden
I go to avatar worlds often and never found one. (But I didnt search for a crasher keep in mind)
umbral reef
@vocal shard Implying most ranks above visitor dont use the same 4 unoptimized avatar worlds
vocal shard
Just let me hide my visitors in peace
covert linden
You search for crashers..?
umbral reef
The sytem would function just as well with a New user, User and Trusted user rank
broken quartz
Again, the only people who are genuinely negatively impacted by this are people who have obnoxious avatars.
Read: People with obnoxious avatars cannot be obnoxious to players who have their avatars hidden.
Do not read: If you don't like the system that means you have an obnoxious avatar.
😃
covert linden
I hope people dont block me when im trusted, im an adorable anime girl with no shoes
vocal shard
Put some shoes on
umbral reef
Yes- But im negatively impacted because people prejudge against me 👏
broken quartz
Welcome to life
covert linden
My new model will have shoes
vocal shard
good
umbral reef
And they prejudge because of my rank and nothing else
As i use the same avatar on both accounts i use
broken quartz
You think that if there was no safety feature that people still wouldn't prejudge?
covert linden
The rank system is entirely flawed
umbral reef
I do think that the color nameplates and extra ranks above trusted users are pointless
broken quartz
Let's be real here, your shaders are hidden, your particles are hidden, whatever. You can still intereact with people.
covert linden
The safety feature seems to think trusted users are harmless, though thats not always the case and you should be equal wirh what you limit.
umbral reef
Mainly as ranking up is abstract and does not refer how trust worthy someone really is.
vocal shard
I like the purple nameplates they look nice
covert linden
Shaders hidde is just sad
jagged mountain
is there an updated home kit anyone?
broken quartz
I don't understand what the actual issue is here other than the fact that you are annoyed people block out some parts of your avatar because they don't want to deal with it..
covert linden
Tf is a home kit
jagged mountain
tf?
broken quartz
The safety feature doesn't seem to think anything.. What are you talking about?
covert linden
The fuck
thin dagger
Anyone know what the Shader Pre-caching Content update just did to the game?
umbral reef
@jagged mountain Nope- They are not even sure if they want to release it last time i asked (aka right when they dropped the new home).
I guess you can email them to get a more updated answer on it.
covert linden
Yes it does. Each rank has less and less restrictions. Trusted has almost none
It should be all equal
covert linden
If you use maximum do you even have fun in vrc
jagged mountain
why would they not want to release a home kit?
covert linden
What is a home kit
jagged mountain
umbral reef
@broken quartz That the safety system is not just a safety system but a ranking system that gets used to judge people.
If we had the particle limiter ingame, easy editing of the dbone limiter, no colors on the nameplates and just the 3 usefull ranks (visitor/new user, user and trusted user) its a great system
covert linden
The link to the home kit download is literally in that doc
umbral reef
But its not and even beside that. The system fails to properly protect you as it still allows for other actions to be taken 🤷
covert linden
But Iunno if they updated it this is the first ive ever even heard of it. It says the old one should work
jagged mountain
yea but the new one is better :<
broken quartz
So your suggestion to making the ranking system better is.... another ranking system...
Also, your suggestion to make the safety system better is... another safety system.. with less options?
🤦
umbral reef
No- Less ranking system.
vocal shard
Ranks in a social game
umbral reef
We got the particle limiter, but you need to add it outside of the game and configuere it there.
You gotta edit the BD limiter outside the game what makes it hard to do.
Removing some options from the ranking system and tada, users get leaps more freedom to limit specific bad things
broken quartz
....
umbral reef
Disabling the particles is pointless in most cases unless you really hate them.
They cant be used for crashing at all with the particle limiter 👏
broken quartz
There... there is an easy way to edit it in game.. it's called The Safety System.
So, tell me, you think that removing 2 ranks from the rank system will suddenly stop prejudice?
vocal shard
Less class division
broken quartz
Which means more people judged in one go
Right now, a visitor could be blocked, a new user 50% blocked, and a user 25% blocked.
If you sweep all of those users into 1 rank, suddenly those who were only 25% blocked are fully blocked.
Bravo.
covert linden
We need an ingame particle limiter
broken quartz
What about shaders? Mesh limits too?
Oh look at us go! We're building the safety system!
umbral reef
@broken quartz Your legit taking what i said, pulling a 180 on it and making it exactly not how i said it
broken quartz
That's rich coming from the guy who said that I'm accusing them of having an obnoxious avatar because they don't agree with the safety system
vocal shard
Ah shit here we go again
umbral reef
Also- No, safety system is turning it on OR off.
Not limiting it. Legit, blocking and limiting aint the same thing.
You cant 'whitelist' shaders
Meshes should be hard limited without animations anyway imo.
broken quartz
You know, and correct me if I'm wrong, would that stop people from casting prejudice?
umbral reef
On the shader topic- There is a reason they use a fallback shader for a reason.
covert linden
We need a limitor. I want to see particles but also not go down to 5fps in vr when I see them, The limter useful and should be an ingame one. not an instant disable
broken quartz
I agree with the option to limit, mind.
umbral reef
When its just 3 ranks compared to 5?
Same reason we went from the 6 to 5...
It barely adds anything, it doesnt indicate that a user is truely more trust worthy with how the system currently works and makes the jump between visitor and trusted users lower.
coarse scaffold
@covert linden there is a particle limiter, same place you edit the dynamic bone limits https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-particle-system-limits
umbral reef
@coarse scaffold We know, we just want it properly added ingame.
vocal shard
The more ranks the more division within the community imo
umbral reef
As its pointless for the community at large to have it be like this...
covert linden
I shouldnt have to do it outside of my game.
broken quartz
It requires a restart of the game, though..
So doing it in game would be pointless
umbral reef
Its not that hard to make a proper UI where they inform users of that.
Loads of games have functions that make you restart the game. Once you touch the button you get attacked by a 'Oi, gotta restart for this to apply'
But ey- We still do not inform people who want to merge accounts that if they favorited anything on there VRchat account there steam accounts favorites wont transfer at all.
covert linden
Even if they didnt favourite anything on the vrc account its vanished for people
umbral reef
Thats another bug- That cna happen, it doesnt do it consistently* .
covert linden
Happened to my ex and two of my friends. All were fresh new out of the oven vrc accunts
Its an annoying bug
ashen ore
vocal shard
Game has so many damn issues. xD Can't even unfriend people. Trying to, and nothing happen. Like you have to really try making your game this broken.
rigid crescent
Not really
covert linden
If youre having such trouble try the website
meager solstice
But there is an ongoing beta that is testing fixes @vocal shard
vocal shard
Alright, I'll check back in a couple days or something. Thanks.
coarse anchor
why do i hear myself in vrc wtf
spiral maple
I heard there was a way to get openload videos to play on the VRC_Sync player does anyone know if this is true?
proper drift
Can someone lead me to the nearest LPD officer lmao
vocal shard
I’m literally playing a vrchat horror map of huggi’s dungeon series part 1 by myself X,(
whole marsh
Anything interesting going on in vrchat today?
vocal shard
Nope, just me, trying to find someone to play huggi’s dungeon part 1 cause I don’t want to go by myself. Also, fun fact, I’m a mute.
broken quartz
There's always something interesting going on
If any of y'all wanna drink some tonight we have a friendly and welcoming group you're welcome to join
Saturday nights are always drink nights :>
whole marsh
Ok
Yeah I don't really have any friends in vrchat. Cause I don't get on enough for people to remember me.
vocal shard
Why the hell is everyone Robots with "Error" on their stomachs now?
Wtf jsut happened. lol
@vocal shard Try clearing your cache
ok
I joined a world but it isn't loading
@vocal shard are you using a vpn
spark dirge
whats a stable internet speed to play in vrchat?
vocal shard
Depends on your location
hold on I have to find out
I don't know
but i'm just going to rejoin
craggy cedar
I Finally have enough money to get the oculus rift s :D
vocal shard
Congrats, Hope you enjoy
sonic verge
does anyone here know how to actually delete cache from the quest?????
vocal shard
The cache self deletes from what i've heard
guys how do I activate animations
like the special ones for certain avatars
are you on desktop
if so it's shift f1-f12
oh so all of them work?
ivory axle
depends what the creator chose
just look in a mirror in vrc and press shift + f[num] and see what they assigned what to
vocal shard
oh ok
vocal shard
ohyes
wise gate
does anyone know where i can make custom voice mods?
vocal shard
i know they are gonna finally fix that voice crackling issue...but what about audio crackling?
desert stratus
custom voice mods? in what way?
vocal shard
its hard to actually play vrchat with those crackling sounds
wise gate
where i can change the way it sounds, some guy told me how to do it but i completely forgot. He said something about reaper
narrow edge
You guys ever played gforce
sleek bone
No
sleek bone
Because I didn't
hushed harness
being a goof in vrchat always get in you into stupidest trouble ever lol.
fading haven
Are there any worlds with Heroes of the Storm or Starcraft avatars?
hushed harness
unfortunately no but you can check warhammer 40k universe av
rigid crescent
My friend has a Nova Widowmaker in his, probably as close to Starcraft as I know off the top of my head.
sly trellis
Isn't that an iplogger?
slate verge
how come ssd doesn't affect vrchat for the loading times?
sly trellis
Don't understand why someone would post an iplogger in the chat.
meager karma
i think this quest integration is putting a pretty big strain on vrchat as a whole in terms of development. ive just been noticing that so many pretty major bugs keep arising after each patch but the old ones arent getting fixed. its getting pretty bad
neon edge
how in the hell do i fix this black screen timeou tthing when joining worlds
vocal shard
I believe they said in the Dev stream that the last while has been really focused on quest, and now that it's finally released, they can switch more of their focus back to everything else.
slate verge
that makes sense as long as they are aware of it. However, not fulfilling the fixes over in the next 2 months will show an indication that they may have fail to focus.
neon edge
really tired of not being able to join worlds becuase of this time out and i dont know a way to fix this
slate verge
@neon edge the black screen timeout thing usually indicates that you the world you are entering have been incompletely downloaded it hence they send you the black screen, either that or the world is not allowing you to enter at the time.
meager karma
if a really bad bug comes up, they should at least have a couple people stop the adding of new features to fixing that stuff. no point being the most feature rich game in the world if its laden with bugs
slate verge
i'm sure they are aware of it, unless of course the devs aren't playing the games themselves or not receiving much report
meager karma
i cant use the go home feature anymore because every time i do its infinite loading
i have to reboot the game
neon edge
sp then there isnt really anyhting i can do
slate verge
first you wanna ask if everyone else is experiencing the same thing and determine if its a caused for everyone else, if not then its just yourself
meager karma
or just sitting in a lag free box talking to friends each of us just get randomly booted to load the world again
slate verge
that happens and i haven't the slightest clue why it does that. My only guess is it auto-boots you because you have high ping.
slate verge
those are common bugs
meager karma
yeah, theres lots of common bugs that have been happening for the past few months
vocal shard
Ohyes
slate verge
vrchat not responding for some reason
covert linden
Are there any vrc kitchen maps where I can pretend to cook? (With a decent amount of food there
slate verge
i remember going in one, but its in one of the chinese or japanese worlds
its hard to find it cuz of the names aren't english text
autumn mica
being shy and a desktop user is quite interesting
vocal shard
Yeah been there 
autumn mica
alot of things happen to you, without too much input from one self
i like it. makes things, alot easier
vocal shard
nope
tranquil basin
Wtf
slate verge
love it when i prove a guy that girls exist on vrchat, prove ya ass wrong thats right. He kept saying there are no girls on vrchat xP
merry canyon
anyone else getting this issue where every so often someone will freeze for a few seconds only to suddenly snap back to reality
slate verge
i think we call that lag. Either that or its an indication of someone is going to be crashed.
vocal shard
Yeah that's an issue with the new Network IK system. They're tuning to try fixing that right now in the open beta
Network IK 
merry canyon
my ping's fine so i guess imma blame terrible network IK
vocal shard
That's what it is most likely
languid beacon
Can anyone with EV2 knuckles get me an updated picture of this diagram? It's from the controller menu in steamVR. https://i.redd.it/wl5qiy3u0h031.jpg
small wing
Chat spacialization is broken for me
Everyone's voice is 2D for some reason
plus it sounds like there is a haas effect on the voices. tried reinstalling but nothing else is working.
desert patio
can anyone hook me with with the car prefab to dricve around? or is it broken?
vocal shard
Nice ^^
gleaming tulip
Making my first avatars and need help.....I want to make 2 of the exact same avatar but 2 different sizes. I duplicated the Unity Project folder and renamed it and renamed the 2nd avatar something else when trying to upload to VRChat. Why is it overwriting the previous avatar instead of giving me 2 different ones? Any clue how to fix?
vocal shard
You need to detach the blueprint id of one of them @gleaming tulip
gleaming tulip
where do I do that?
vocal shard
It's under the avatar descriptor
gleaming tulip
I'll give it a go, thanks trying to learn this stuff on my own and this is the first attempt =/
rustic rock
so um which vr headsets are compatible with this game? And what are the cheapest ones?
halcyon kestrel
yo honestly i was talking with this girl for the past 2 hours in a private room and i think i just met the love of my life
vocal shard
Yikes
halcyon kestrel
like this person has so much in common with me
vocal shard
3 months later it'll be sad boy hours
halcyon kestrel
like on god one of the best conversations i ever had with some one
say what u will now but shes coming to my state so...
for "personal reasons"
vocal shard
Did you age check
halcyon kestrel
but yah know things could happened and im actually looking forward to meeting this person
Ye
vocal shard
irl erp when
halcyon kestrel
our conversation was basically talking about our interests and you know what we look like, etc..
"what are you doing currently? do you have a job?" etc..
then we started going into personal stuff which was awesome to talk to someone about even tho you only met them for like 2 hours which is weird on how that works
thats one of the reasons why i love VRChat
vocal shard
Shouldn't you be talking to her on discord or doing a sleep call etc
halcyon kestrel
the conversations and how they start
we both had to leave since its like in the states and i asked her to add me on discord, lol i thought about that
already
we talked about what college and stuff (of course what age who wouldnt...)
i mean man... just one of the best if not THE best conversation
boreal kelp
Is there a reason why VRChat model arms sink into skirts/torso? Though it's not showing up in my custom idle, walk animations.. it does show up when selecting an avatar on the menu
halcyon kestrel
if you got any avatar questions im sure someone could help you there
or here but thats the best place to ask
gleaming tulip
If uploading the same avatar but 2 different sizes do I just need to detach the blueprint ID or do I have to put a name in the blueprint IF white box as well?
vocal shard
You just need to detach the blueprint id
gleaming tulip
ty
halcyon kestrel
or bully got it
vocal shard
np
boreal kelp
I'll try asking tomorrow once I have photos to post
vocal shard
👌
boreal kelp
Also, are mods/staff the only ones allowed to locally upload photo/video to this Discord
languid beacon
Solid 90 fps on Oculus Home version, 33 fps on SteamVR, cannot figure out why
oblique igloo
👀
pale ibex
hey guy i was wondering if i can get some help getting push to talk to work
slate verge
push to talk should work in-game
quartz osprey
yo senko san
rocky blaze
so what's with the servers?
i have 800 ping more than i should
even if am downloading it goes to 500
north axle
No one is quite sure why (besides reasons such as broken IK, missing notifications, broken world triggers, high ping and random disconnects, occasional voice chat issues, etc.) but it seems like now is not the best time to play VRChat, at least until the next big patch, which, hopefully, will come out this summer.
I wonder what their actual roadmap looks like.
And I don't mean the "Roadmap" on Canny but actual actual roadmap with actual goals and timepoints.
latent fulcrum
the vrchat login needs a remember me login option. played it today and it needed me to login again
lethal summit
vrchat devs needs to do a camera view like gta5
umbral reef
Why would they ever do that?
Most worlds wont function right with it, its useless for the VR users and the angle is really bad for a social game...
lethal summit
well for desktop users of course..
also ability to change he view
im not saying to be replaced with that one.
there is a map where you can see your avatar 50% just like in gta5
and its cool.
silver gull
everytime i go onto vr chart it says update driver and everytime i update my driver it messes up my computer does anyone no what to do
meager solstice
I mean u can do that with a custom model/world
iron rune
finite kraken
so is tris in blender other words for poly?
shell dirge
Um anybody here a Quest user?
finite kraken
woot 31,000 tris i am still in the clear!
delicate ice
@shell dirge I am lol, guys is there a away to get discord inside vrchat. Like the twitch chat ?. But well a discord server instead ? And if so, on Quest? Probably not but I don’t know tbh
novel skiff
On Quest there probably isn't, but on PC there are quite a few applications that allow you to strap a window to one of your controllers. OVRDrop is one of them.
I'm not sure of any free applications though.
With Oculus you can use Dash to pin a Discord window inside VR.
vocal shard
hi
holy shit. some korean streamer has nearly 7k on the vrchat twitch page
its literally unheard of
woowakgood
oh rad, man
cyan needle
coughs. "So... hello room. New to this room, trying to see if I can figure out how/where to find an avatar I can upload and possibly mod just enough to make it usable for full-body, since the one I've been using isn't proportioned right. Which I hear is common."
floral aspen
Lots of stuff on DeviantArt. ModelsResource if you want something from a video game.
Also CATS blender plugin has a full body tracking fix function
languid beacon
sneezes in italics and writes in quotes for some reason. “Cats plugin for blender can make any model work in full body with a single button. Models on deviant art usually have no use restrictions as long as you don’t claim it as your own work or make money so they’re fine for vrc”
stable pilot
wow hold on there brodie that's too fancy of a text combination for me to handle
cyan needle
Aye, thanks. Catch is just finding the RIGHT avatar. Ah well. I'll try hunting again...
languid beacon
I also recommend learning blender. It’s not as hard as it sounds. Everything’s just points and lines. Just connect the dots forehead
cyan needle
That I'll save for when I try to get an actual full custom avatar of my char. But that'll likely be from scratch and I ain't exactly artistic.
oak axle
Hi peps
delicate ice
Hey, i have a question. I am playing on quest and want to put some avatars on there but idk how to log in on the webside via oculus any help ? or is it impossible
and can i transfer my friends from oculus to a account ?
languid beacon
Uploading avatars requires a PC with Unity3D installed. There’s no way to do it from within the headset or via a website. You also need to have gotten out of Visitor status in game
delicate ice
i have a pc with unity. My problem is how i log in the oculus acccount
languid beacon
You’ll need to convert your oculus account to a vrchat account using the in-game settings menu
delicate ice
ah okay thanks
vocal shard
Are you able to transfer an oculus account yet? I thought that was still in development
languid beacon
As far as Unity3D goes once you have at least New User status there will be a link on the website to the specific version of Unity3D you need as well as the SDK you need to import into a unity project to get the upload menus
delicate ice
well i already uploaded a lot sdk like half a year ago to my account (all not quest obviosly) and i have all that set up do i need to redo a dew thing ?
languid beacon
It was my understanding both steam and oculus can now be converted into VRchat accounts proper
delicate ice
thats rlly good
vocal shard
Oh, ok. I haven't looked into it myself
languid beacon
Yes the SDK updates like every 2 weeks or so and the required version unity updates maybe once a year
delicate ice
uh nice. Imma first of all convert the account and get back here cya
languid beacon
Vrc never uses the latest unity you have to update when they do
I would personally double check if oculus accounts can be upgraded into proper vrchat accounts. I’m not 100% sure can yet . Because if they can’t you will need to start over on a vrchat account if you want to upload sooner
You can still use quest, but you’d need to log in with your native vrchat account
delicate ice
well i dont find it ingame
and i dont wanna loose and the friends i made
(like the fr's
i dont wanna resent all of them)
quiet dew
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 7184 users in VRChat currently
delicate ice
semms like quest users cant upgrade
i dont frind the setting anywhere on any website thats says so
wait
do i have to not be visitor to merge accounts ?
vocal shard
Yeah, I think it's coming, just not available yet. For now it's probably best to log in to a vrchat account.
No you can merge anytime
delicate ice
so, if i log in with the vr chat accounts wouldnt that be stupid? I want my friends and all so imma stay with oculus until i can merge and then have all converted over right? (is the trust level also being translated?)
btw i saw u on all steam question lol ^^
vocal shard
Yeah the trust gets transferred.
Oh? Lol, yeah I used to be really active there. 
foggy raven
i think there is something wrong with quest user mics https://yadi.sk/i/PRAjh22PdsMWTQ
foggy raven
i dunno
languid beacon
I have only met one quest use who actually spoke. Hand motions from many showed they wanted to speak but could not figure it out
ruby needle
but if one spoke it means that software wise it should be working?
Quest is unlike pc a thing where you know everyone has the same hardware
Meaning everyone should have the same behaviour
languid beacon
Correct but they may have used external mic port
We know VRChat has issues with multiple microphones so it’s not out of the question that something is coded wrong. It’s happening too often to be user error
ruby needle
Android should usually switch that like it does when you use a headset on a smartphone
and i'd expect the majority to use the internal one (and would expect that one to be set up/tested)
dusk mesa
Paulchen 👀
coral lagoon
If sony agreed, would ever be possible to have vrchat on PSVR?
ruby needle
theoretically
small wing
calm ridge
mb
ruby needle
ruby needle
it isn't tho 
calm ridge
did both
small wing
Marketing like that usually never works. Even if it were in this channel the most you will get is like 2 clicks
Try being more direct and stream it in game, it works better.
small wing
Eh, then go for it.
pastel dirge
so question, when installing unity why do you need visual studios installed, what happens if i dont download it
small wing
Post on the reddit too if you have something interesting to share, that helps a lot too. @calm ridge
@pastel dirge Then you won't be able to compile code
calm ridge
can u link it
calm ridge
ty
small wing
Make sure to use the tag's mentioned in the rules for the sub reddit or else it will delete your post.
@pastel dirge It's best to install that in case you run into a shader that has a messed up render queue that needs to be fixed.
calm ridge
jesus christ just fuckin tattoo property of vrchat on me
small wing
Or if i remember right other people use notepad +
rough pulsar
vim masterrace checking in 😉
small wing
wat dat
pastel dirge
so do i need it to use shaders or is it just to modify them
rough pulsar
the best text editor ever 😜
pastel dirge
like will unity work good without
small wing
Its to modify em
pastel dirge
ok so technically i dont need it since i dont modify shaders
small wing
You do need it if you use shader's that conflict with each other.
If you plan on using 1 shader for everything then sure, don't install it.
But if you ever plan on mixing stuff then its good to have that installed incase you ever need to edit the render queue.
pastel dirge
if i use one shader for body and another for clothes do i need it
small wing
Yes
If you don't know how render queue works then I highly suggest looking into it, super helpful when making avatars.
Otherwise you will have problems where some parts of the avatar render over when it shouldn't.
pastel dirge
render over what?
small wing
Other shaders.
If you have a cape for instance and the render queue isn't set up right it will render over your body at all times even when the body is in front of the cape.
pastel dirge
but every part has its own shader to it
pastel dirge
ill see what happens, anyway now the problem is not being able to reset passsword
umbral reef
I think you meant support@vrchat.com
languid beacon
Unity can run on PS4 but it’s a third platform for everyone to compile to and specifications to meet. Crossplay content world get pretty rare. Plus I feel like Sony might have stricter requirements on content which just is not possible in a crossplay, user generated content game
vocal shard
👍
languid beacon
I have no idea who I was responding to, didn’t realize chat was old.
pastel dirge
ok it worked now i logged in, but im still confused why it would mess up the shaders, since you just said its used to modify the shaders
small wing
I think they deleted their message
@pastel dirge Think of shader render queue as layers inside of photo shop
A bit more complicated than that, but its better for you to look it up and read into it instead of me writing an essay here lol.
"confused why it would mess up the shaders, since you just said its used to modify the shaders"
You modify the shaders to fix issues
pastel dirge
i dont work with photoshop
pastel dirge
i have used different shaders multiple times, i just never acually opened visual studios program
covert linden
Some things dont comply with some shaders
pastel dirge
ok this is making me angry nothing is working XD
not the unity part, i cant install cats plugin
delicate ice
Guys when is the quest able to upgrade accounts I really want it
languid beacon
The main way blender won’t work is if you installed the new beta
Use blender 79
80 doesn’t work with most plugins made for VRChat
coral plover
Hi 😎
vale palm
honest question has GPU requirement gone up with the last patch
ruby needle
No
vale palm
honestly feeling far more hiccups since the patch
ruby needle
Framerate wise? The new Network IK is a bit janky in its first itteration
Maybe you just misinterpret that?
vale palm
more like, I get hiccups if im in rooms for longer than 10-15mins, every 2-4seconds
especially noticeable with mirrors
umbral reef
Mirrors pretty much make stuff render twice unless they do some magic
vocal shard
Eww raedon cards in 2019
umbral reef
So not that odd your having problems with them
vale palm
Ik, but I didnt have these issues before
and ive been playing on the same setup for over a year now
vocal shard
Those issues are due to the new Network IK most likely
CaUsE wE hAvE tO aCcOmOdAtE qUeSt UsErS
umbral reef
Tbh by now there are so many lose problems we cant even start to guess what it can be
Supporting users with problems was fun because new problems showed up and went away-
Now they just keep stacking up and barely get removed... Atleast the main ones
rigid crescent
🤔 isn't the networked IK good for everyone, if it works
shit was so cash in december for the night it worked lol
ruby needle
Yes, at least when it has gone trough the process the old one has over many patches
languid beacon
The IK issues are caused by them trying to support quest users, but it’s inconsequential, they are just bugs that can be fixed. Network IK does not suck out of necessity, it just needs work
ruby needle
Going network IK is not purely because of quest
while it's likely the reason it just had to be pushed and kept now, it's not the reason why we get a new system
languid beacon
I feel like my bandwidth was only just fast enough to stream my IK targets and chokes on streaming the full calculation
As well as receiving everyone else’s
small wing
Anyone know all the drivers that VRChat uses?
Going to reinstall all of them to try and fix a problem i have
languid beacon
Uh. I don’t actually understand the question.
languid beacon
It’s a unity game, anything it needs should be in its install directory
I don’t believe it needs any externals
boreal kelp
I had an old 1GB radeon card that could use Yakuza 0 fine but crashed in VRChat when there were too many people or shaders..
small wing
Well for some reason i am getting audio problems with voices being stuck in 2D
boreal kelp
Then I upgraded to this
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZYWX--R4L.jpg
small wing
And that was after updating all drivers
So i need to reinstall everything to make sure
2D as in non positional btw
everyone is at the same volume regaurdless of where i am
scuffed
languid beacon
I’m probably 60% sure VRChat requires no separate distributables to run. I could be wrong.
small wing
Is there something with windows 10 that I need to do?
boreal kelp
I do get lag when there are a lot of users or shaders in a world however. Dunno if it's network or my graphics card trying to keep up
small wing
Just upgraded from 8.1
small wing
@boreal kelp it's your Vram
Nah everyone's voice is stuck in 2D and before I was getting another issue where I would hear myself whenever I spoke with visemes
boreal kelp
Maybe I should go up to 3 or 4GB graphics card at some point
languid beacon
Is non-voice VRC audio also in 2D?
small wing
I don't think it was.
languid beacon
I’d also want to know other applications have proper stereo before pegging it on vrc
small wing
it's not just stereo though, there is no volume falloff either in game
Every other app works fine
languid beacon
That just sounds like you have voice prioritization set differently than you may have had previously
languid beacon
No although I am aware there are bugs regarding it on the live build
small wing
But is it really forcing people from miles away in a map to sound like they are right infront of you?
languid beacon
That can also happen due to the world uploader’s choice
small wing
That isn't it then.
It's in every world i go to
Even all the ones I knew for sure didn't have 2D voices set for years
languid beacon
Gonna be a little traditional here and ask you to clear your cache
small wing
Did that, reinstalled. Edited registry's to clear out old drivers. Even forced my network off to bypass window's 10 from forcing a faulty driver to install instead.
Tried both Realtek HD audio drivers and even went in dry without it.
Nothing works.
languid beacon
Then I would be in the opinion that it’s a VRC bug, though you are the first I’ve heard but it’s entirely possible that others just aren’t noticing?
ruby needle
just to make sure, check if your output is set to stereo
small wing
Output from the game?
Or in any other program? Because i had mentioned checking in everything but VRC.
languid beacon
If his non-voice vrchat channels are in sterio than it isn’t his windows settings
small wing
My window's settings are fine, every other program i use is working perfectly.
gleaming tulip
What's a good maximum range to set for audio distance?
languid beacon
I would recommend trying to make sure regular object audio is actually in stereo
small wing
I'm not talking about my own content at all.
This happens in every world like I said.
It's only affecting voices.
languid beacon
Depends on the sound. Large objects should have large falloff. Small objects should have range based on context. For example, if a sound is in a room I try to avoid it being heard outside that room
I don’t mess with the falloff values directly just the range spheres
gleaming tulip
what size is the presentation room then? want it to cover about 3/4 of that
languid beacon
Oh. Avatar sounds. No clue I keep them off 😄
gleaming tulip
lol, trying to make a song play when I activate a accoustic guitar gesture
languid beacon
Personally I wouldn’t extend them more than 4 meters tops. I’d probably be 3 personally
gleaming tulip
lol glad you typed that back, had set at 25meters lol
small wing
If your avatar sounds are longer than 3 arms lengths or so away then chances are you are probably doing something very naughty. 🤔
It limit's the range on runtime for upload.
Most you will ever get is around a few feet.
oak axle
Hi
delicate ice
When can quest people upgrade there account ?
oak axle
Idk
delicate ice
F
languid beacon
Let me put it this way. If an avatar is playing sounds that I find annoying, I will step away from them, a few meters. If the sound does not fade out, my only option is to hide their avatar.
languid beacon
Nah. That’s not that’s not against the rules
small wing
Then why does the SDK enforce it on runtime 🤔
hexed maple
Had a misfortune today while playing vrchat on vive. Tripped an hit my head on my desk and blacked out for about half an hour. Later woke up on the floor looking up with a massive headache. A medium sized wound was on my head and blood on the floor and headset.
languid beacon
SDK allows for pretty large ranges
small wing
Define "large"
languid beacon
I don’t know off hand but I’ve made them by accident
small wing
@hexed maple Don't go back to sleep.
ornate obsidian
hi
small wing
Try to stay up for at least a few hours.
hexed maple
Its been like 2 hours now
small wing
If it gets worse call someone to keep an eye on you
You sound fine right now, but just to be safe.
umbral reef
Spheres is giving some reallly solid advice here and i would follow it.
Falling like that can cause a lot of unwanted problems that you will not feel until its too late if you fall asleep.
small wing
My mother dealt with a lot of Seizures a few years ago, sleeping is not a good idea at all.
Same goes for a concussion.
Would also not recommend taking anything for that headache till at least a few hours.
Last thing you want to do is create some sort of chemical imbalance for your body to try and adjust to along side that.
ornate obsidian
Hey so my friend has a really really weird issue where new worlds / avatars don't seem to load in and they just keep saying 0.00% has anyone had this happen to them before?
small wing
!cache
small wing
Did you reinstall the game?
ornate obsidian
yep
small wing
Also restart the pc?
ornate obsidian
restart made it go away temporarily
umbral reef
They can try restarting there router
small wing
Could be a service on his computer that isn't running or need's to be running but isnt.
small wing
Not sure if VRC has specific services that need to be running
small wing
Try clearing DNS cache it might be the router receiving incorrect packets
idk not too savy on this
ornate obsidian
he can load new avatars but only if he's using it
small wing
Does he have safety on?
umbral reef
Tl;dr
They use cloudfare and it can mess up from what i know if its being used in this way
ornate obsidian
no it was with his friends
small wing
Ah
Also @umbral reef did you mean clearing DNS will cause issues with cloudflare or something else?
umbral reef
More not clearing it
small wing
Ah
umbral reef
But from what i been told also- There is more then one network related bug in the game RN so...
ornate obsidian
yeah its super weird
we've tried just about everything and cant seem to get it to go away perminantly
small wing
Is he on oculus?
small wing
Ah so steam
small wing
Tell him to install VRChat to a different spot so its a fresh install and see if something isnt getting deleted.
Also tell him to straight up delete the VRChat folder in AppData
ornate obsidian
roaming or local
ornate obsidian
we've deleted locallow one already
small wing
Even delete the steam folder for VRC
Gotta do that to see if its just the game having issues. If it still persists then its something with either the computer or the router.
ornate obsidian
mind if i add you to the call?
small wing
Already in one rn
ornate obsidian
oh kk
languid beacon
I don’t normally jump into conversations like this but the whole thing of not sleeping after a concussion is a myth and not only is it wrong, it’s dangerous. The best thing to do after a concussion is sleep. Your body best repairs itself when at rest.
Now obviously if you are in serious danger sleeping rather than getting emergency medical attention is a bad idea as you may go into a coma but that wouldn’t happen BECAUSE you slept it was going to happen anyway. Go see a doctor but he will tell you to rest.
umbral reef
@languid beacon Its indeed fine to sleep after one but there are a heaps of symptomes people should not have when waking up that they. The reason most medical boys just say 'dont sleep unless someone is around ya or time has passed without stuff' is exactly because people suck at judging those symptomes for themselves...
north axle
Hello there, me ol' chums.
Give me a couple of ideas on how VR could improve worldwide ecology,
uncut trail
Yo reddit down for u folks ?
umbral reef
@north axle Want idea's with the current bugs or in an imaginary best state of the game world?
north axle
Not sure how bugs could solve this.
Also, I'm talking about VR, not VRChat.
Damn it, wrong channel.
Eh, close enough, I suppose.
languid beacon
I feel like this a homework prompt for an essay. Asking the internet for homework advice is a baaaad idea lol
north axle
I've been thinking about this for a couple of years, might as well ask the same question once again.
languid beacon
Obviously it helps worldwide ecology because you can headpat people in other countries
north axle
I don't suppose this explanation would work on a bunch of elderly people at my university.
languid beacon
But if I were to be 100% serious try the high fidelity crowd. They’re basically all boomers and can give you old sounding answers.
All BS but it’s the answers they’re looking for lol
jovial wraith
so im guessing everyone is having huge issues in vr chat
@weary bison has anyone reported anything
as soon as i messege they go offline XD whatever
rigid crescent
everyone has reported everything lol people hav ebeen in here since the update
iron thunder
If I lightly bully Quest users, will people think i'm a jerk? Like.. just giving them virtual swirlies and shit.
umbral reef
Why would they not think that while your bullying people?
iron thunder
Hey you've got a point.
near saffron
vocal shard
Quest users aren't human beings change my mind
iron thunder
wait this guy is a literal bully
covert linden
does the quest have 5 cams?
vocal shard
Bully is short for bullyhunter
topaz patrol
I have a gtx 1050 ti can I run this game with an oculas rift reliably?
late pendant
i need help guys
primal oak
Caught a crasher on tape. Sent a mail to the moderation team. Feels good.
vocal shard
Anyone know Yaitani In VRC? I would like to get a hold of them but can't seem to find them in discors
amber spindle
I just made a new account. It says I can't upload avatars?
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a not time based trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord, a rough estimate would be ** 20-40 hours**, but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam or oculus account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/kb/article/27-why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
amber spindle
Damn, guess making it was pointless.
ruby needle
if you want to make avatars at some point, it's not pointless