#vrchat-general-2
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there are still some new ones out there
not unless you knew what you were getting
they're like 700$ now ghosto
There are new ones till the stock runs out, most places are sold out and places that arent overprice them to oblivion
went on the american site
8 new from $629.99 9 used from $442.00
uk store =/= us store
Yeah, they're out of stock so I mean
I'm in canada and all the canadian ones are 800+$
oculus is just entirely out of the market now then
only for mobile plebians
at this point it might be better to just spill the extra 100 dollars for the vive, esp if it has compatibility with the index and you plan on getting that later 😂
I like wmr/rift s for no sensors, but I like my rift
Well i know one best buy who said they still have rifts
People will be selling vive for cheaper since the index. It's always upgradeable and has the widest compatibility
But
absolute trash controllers on vive
The only downside imo is the cost to repair since HTC sucks ass at that and individual parts are upcharged
My play space is very big so where the heck id put my rift sensors thats what i hate about the rift
is the only real reason rift was better
Also yeah the controllers suck, but that's less of a downside
I wish my rift could do roomscale without sensors ;-; I need extendors, and another lighthouse, ANNND I need to get adhesives smh
They suck vs other hardware out there but on their own they're not uncomfortable to use
youd have to put vive sensors too, Elizabeth, so dont just dis rift
Facebook has announced oculus markerless fullbody it should work fine with Rift S
how so?
No usb 3.0 extenders needed
huh?
but how, youd need to add lighthouses, and such
Isn't that tracking many years out though Adeon?
you dont need extendors for the rift
With vive you plug in the sensors. They connect to the link box wirelessly.
@.@
I use oculus touch with vive trackers it works very nice but it was expensive
With the rift, if you want a larger playspace, you need to invest in usb 3.0 extenders and it's a bit more of a hassle
ah I see
This is a lot of work lol
thats why I personally want the rift S, debating selling/trading my rift for a Rift S
Yeah, but it's worth the time elizabeth!
I use a single usb extender for my 3rd oculus sensor and it was 10 bucks what you smoken
how do the llighthouses get power then?
You plug them into wall power
Lighthouses need to plug into a wall outlet
each?
oh so you need an extention cord if none are near u
Yes
holy
Yes
that'd be just as annoying
The cables are relatively long though, so
Easier to run to the closest outlet then run to your pc
eeeh, depends really
Then pick the setup that works for you
but I won't argue
There's usually electrical outlets around most walls I find.
I have hybrid so I have 3 oculus sensors and 2 vive base stations in my VR room. So let me say:
1.) vive base stations are easier to install with less wires running everywhere
2.) oculus sensors are much more aesthetically pleasing and easier to actually hide the wires out of view since they aren’t running up to your ceiling
+1 for oculus too since no noise
1.0 base stations emit a small humming. You can turn them off when not in use but manytimes it's slow and unreliable to manage them wirelessly
I have one of mine plugged into a light switch, which makes it fairly easy to manage em.
I don’t like powering them up and down all the time that is the most strain I’ve heard. Better to leave them spinning for years on end
Hopefully 2.0 is more reliable
My lighthouses are still fine 3-4 years in.
Mine are loud, always were
Louder than my computer fans and tinnitus, who're doing their very best to annoy me
As well as with vive, without spending money on extra hardware to hold them, they need to be wall mounted (which requires a drill and causes damage to your wall)
I just have mine on some camera tripods I had laying around, cheaper light stands also work with a camera mount adapter.
There's other solutions but those usually require ~$50-100
I swapped my tripods for structure poles less wobble
Yeah I wish I could do that. I don't have the space
I've seen diy structure poles do good
I'm happy that 2.0 doesn't have to be wall mounted. I'm gonna wall mount one, then just set another on a high shelf
Also the tripod feet ate too much floor space
I had some fairly convenient shelves on each corner of my room, so I've put the tripods up there, though understandably everyone might not be that lucky.
And again, without tripods, it can cost quite a bit for a non damaging solution
Vs setting them on a desk
Structure poles are about the same price as tripods
After wasting my money buying tripods specifically for vive base stations I don’t recommend them
I had my vive trackers on a shelve angled down and worked fine for ages
FAR from safe and secure but it worked
Nothing a bit of tape cant fix
Sadly I have no shelves
As long as they're firmly placed and not occluded they're fine wherever.
I had mine running in the bathroom in a hotel once with one lighthouse on a cupboard and another on some kind of lampshade and everything worked surprisingly well.
My setup when I had tripods. Need to update it now that I have structure poles instead http://m.360.io/RDCQw3
Spare oculus sensors just kinda gets thrown on a barstool very sloppy
Well. I may just get the Rift S. But thanks everyone for the help and advice. I hope to try the demo tomorrow at my best buy 😋
I want the rift s for easier roomscale
I wouldn’t upgrade TO a rift S, but if you don’t have any headset at all it’s a good start
Yes I can always upgrade in future whenever
I have a rift but lighthouses bother me. I own the wmr and I love the easy roomscale
I just believe Rift S will have a shorter lifespan than Rift, before getting replaced with a Rift 2
Idk if its an advanced wmr its pretty aweesome
Short lifespan as in what battery?
As in how long itll be relevent for
Ahh
Lifespan as in how long it goes before getting a newer headset to replace it
I feel like Rift S is a stopgap version
I'm sure it'll last long enough if you're a caring person and not sleeping on vrchat with the headset on
Wmr isnt as bad as people make it out to be
Might be the name
Or tossing it whwn yoire done
Granted I haven’t held one yet but it looks more cheaply made than Rift
Might be the plastic gloss look. Rifts matte black textured plastic made it feel more durable than it really is
Its a budget option like wmr its not bad
Well until one of us actually tries Rift S then we cant really assume much
Its a good headset
Never judge book by its cover like wmr as Rea saiddd
It looks like a good inside out tracking headset
My biggest beef with classic rift is the resolution
FoV of rift is fine
Bigger is just bonus but classic rift has enough already
My biggest beef is not enough room for my glasses inside the rift headset
A yeah I guess that would suck. I do need glasses but it’s not bad enough that I can’t just skip them while in vr
All it does is give me enough blur to not see the screen door so, that works out well
When vr gets sharper I’ll miss out if I don’t wear glasses
Unless we get light field rendering then no one will need glasses 😃
Good thing i got contacts in time.. But it is frustating not to wear glasses and vr at same time
Lucky you can do contacts
I have a keterconus and only contacts can correct it but I refuse to touch things to my eyes so I just live with the condition
Awweeee
Well when I first was getting contacts it took me 3 hours in the class to put them in
I had to have my mom and dad hold me down and force it in my eyes 😂
What I love about WMR
- No lighthouses
*automatic roomscale
*pretty good tracking if youve got good lighting
No lighthouses is a big deal for me because now I gotta buy adhesives and another lighthouse if I want Roomscale, and I need roomscale too be a weeeeeb
why does cloth nuke your rating so much? everyone i talked to that uses cloth says it's less performance intense than dynamic bones. is that true? 🤔
I think clothh is worse
so what do you do about medium to long sleeves on an avatar?
dynamic bones with force doesn't really look good at all
I like long sleeves avatars
well. they look quite shit when they're stiff
lol
👀

It's funny how the Oculus subreddit was going on how the rift S was bad when it was first announced, but now itseems like everyone there is selling their Rift to Move to Rift S
my avatar's mouth opens when looking down too. i had this problem long ago and fixed it but i forgot how. was it move a vertex on every blendshape a little or something?
🤔
The new update of cats is supposed to fix the open mouth problem
i didn't run into this problem once since the last time
Sounds like the order of your visemes might've been messed up a bit
vrc.blink_left
vrc.blink_right
vrc.lowerlid_left
vrc.lowerlid_right
Needs to be the first visemes in your blendshape order on export.
I've found that Blender sometimes juggle them around a bit and messes up the order.
huh. her lowerlid blendshapes are missing
That's definitely it then.
but... i didn't remove them. weird 🤔
I like playing in the dark but id rather easier roomscale
Sometimes it just happens. Fix that and the mouth should work
If something is moving like that when looking up or down, it's very likely due to eye tracking. It was a significant quirk of my cyclops model I had to figure out, due to how the oversized eye reacts.
Yeah, you should be able to just regenerate the eye tracking and it will fix it.
good thing i can just replace the fbx now
Since leaving it like that will also be messing up your visemes slightly.
Not sure why replacing fbx works for me all the time but for my friend she explodes into polygon barf when replacing fbx in her unity
i know that one
I get that sometimes when the changes are too drastic
i always get ocd and check my blendshapes in blender before i export
after like everything i do 😂
checking one is enough though
Do you change the fbx and texture atlas at the same time? Maybe your friend doesn't change the atlas?
I used to get that all the time. The common reason for me was editing the mesh without separating it from areas containing blendshapes, which then corrupts those blendshapes.
i saw someone with an avatar like your pfp yesterday 👀
Cyclops are pretty rare these days, I haven't seen one in a long time.
it was some korean
At the risk of being too #avatars-2-general in general chat, is a 3rd, 4th, etc eye with tracking as easy as copying the settings from generated eyetracking on the L/R eye?
You’ll want a rigid body and fixed joints setup for the third eye bone. It will not be automatically animated by vrc ik
2018 unity support can’t come soon enough, it’s Rotation constraint would eliminate this fixed joint + rigid body dance
@strange wagon Like mine? '-'
You mean just the cyclops part right, not the outfit too I presume?
You should move your IPD to zero so you see from the center of your avatar and have no depth perception
An alternative for eye tracking on more than two objects, is using Vilars Eye Shader. Though I've never used it before myself, and it's best used with spherical eyes rather than anime style ones, if I understand correctly.
I don't think depth perception works like that Adeon. : P
Although if I wanted, I could use a special shader to black out the display for one eye.
It does actually you get depth fromparalax
Yeah, but in VR-Chat setting your view point to 0 doesn't remove the eye separation.
yep cyclops
It'd just move your "eyes" further back and still have the spacing.
Wait wait wait...
I'm dumb and not reading correctly. Sorry.
0 IPD puts the same image on both eyes
You set IPD. For some reason I read that as if you were talking about the avatar descriptor. -_-
Probably because you can't manually set or move your virtual IPD on avatars though.
It's determined by your arm span to height ratio.
how it it possible that one guy can drop a few worlds one after the other what this virtual market guy is doing?
@ruby burrow vilar’s rye movement shader works great however the tracking version is NOT Vr-friendly. It looks at each eye for each eye, instead of being single pass stereoscopic
Ie from your left eye both eyes are looking at your left eye, from right eye both eyes are looking at your right eye
This has the net effect of the iris looking like its floating from the inside SL center of the eyeball
@languid beacon @ruby burrow I'm pretty sure one version of Vilar's shader has a function that makes the eyes track to the central point regardless of which eye is rendering so it looks correct in VR.
I may have used it incorrectly then worth a second look
Mhmm. I've only seen it in action once (whilst knowing it was being used at least) but I was just thinking that it looked perfectly fine to me.
The main reason I stopped using it is I am not smart enough to modify it to have toon ramp shading
It is standard shader
The guy was using it on the centre of a destiny style drone, which was larger than a typical eye, so any issues would probably stand out.
Also it was designed for realistic eyes, that means spheres as it works via rotating the geometry in the shader.
Yes I was using it on a sphere eye avatar but I needed it toon lit
It worked fine aside from bad shading
Probably due to the vertex manipulation
Nah it was the actual shader being standard while the rest was toon lit. Made it all too dark
Eyes were dark that is
Well the toon lit stuff is generally too light
Still would be nice to have something like vilar’s eye tracking shader without it being tied to visual shading shader but that’s just unity
Sap everyone
Man I wish they had a voice chat chat I would want to beatbox but everyone makes fun of me cus of my age
and how old may you be
Let's say I'm not old enough to drive
13?
lol shit idek i know many people who drivw at 12
Actually I'm 13 correct
oohhh okayyyy!!! i dont think people should judge though, it is a talent (:
Yes I guess it is... I should probably log into vr chat soon
ohh fun, do you have vr? i dont play with vr yet sadly
Well more like 50 dollars away from buying a set but not old enough to get a job yet (I think)
ahhh! well that is still so good, which vr will you be getting?
HTC vive
figures. lol well i hope you get it!
Yeah I'm gonna the wireless version
the wha...?
u mean the wireless adapter?
thats like extra $300
Yeah I know it's taking a looking timee
Longgg
that alot of money haha but i suppose it is worth it
lmao damn
🤣
I hope it's worth it
it will be !!
I've heard it's a million degrees. That's why I didn't get it
yes it does get heated alot
and if ur playing vrchat constanly
thats likee whoaaa
Oh okay I shall take frequent break s
It messed my friend up pretty bad. It's super hot but at the same time you don't notice it
So I don't get my brain fried
well i dont mind the chords since im barely moving around anyway lol
but if ur a dancer and all that then its recommneded
I have a IDEA
Number one
Assassin creed in vr
Second
Spiderman in vr
OK done
haha assasin creed i can agree
i love that game a lot
Ye it's cool imagine playing it in vr if u or anyone had heights
A fear of heights*
OwO
yoyo is there any specific reason why ur getting an htc vive?
like how much muns do you have? Cuz in 2019 if ur getting pcvr for the first time id reccommend the rift s at $400
comfier, higher res screen, easier to set up
and that's if ur on a budget or wanna dip ur toes. Good starter set
@vocal shard
yep! cus that is what im doing
Well I've been saving for a while now but it would be nice for leftover money to buy vr games
Thanks for the tip!
and if
theres anymore rifts in ur area buy ittt its 350
unless you were like that one guy who found a used set for $200 in which case yeah get the vive lol
woww luckyyy
I personally wouldn’t pay the 400$ for the rift s, when a vive is only 100$ more
i personally wont pay for anything 👀
yeah but for first timers its a hassle to set up
plus i see only vive for full body tracking and all the so high tech addons it has
so if u dun care about that then rift s
plus the controllers are freaking dildo wands
Eh vive controllers do suck
i'm going with the vive cuz full motion tracking
You could buy wmr that has been used for like 80$
Which is a steal in my opinion for someone who is looking for a low budget option with minor draw backs that have almost literally no downside
VRChats opinion on Index?
Seems cool.
More or less
I mean looks like the best high end headset controllers, and tracking on the market
Reduces screen door effect greatly from what was said
Index with knuckle and body trackers will be the most premium way of experiencing VRChat. When it actually has knuckle support.
Which it doesn’t yet. To my knowledge
i still would enjoy vrcht with vr
I know they r probably working on it
But they haven’t announced anything official about them since they showed that video on twitter.
And that was last year
I just hope it’s more than what was shown on twitter. Me getting an Index is hinging on having individual finger control
only problem I can see them having is gestures and finger control
Nah
If you have individual finger control you can know when to trigger each animation
If I do a fist then do the fist emote
If I point do the point emote
Have an option to disable them and just use hands if I want
That’s what I was gonna suggest is to have an option maybe in the menu to disable gestures
I think it would work fine even without them disabled
Touch controllers work just fine
Even tho I trigger stuff constantly
Touch users would appreciate being able to disable them too lol
someone put goldeneye multiplayer in vrchat thanks
is it even possible to do arena's like that? like a team death match sort of game
has anyone had a go at mapping their steamVR avatar to a VRchat compatible avatar?
Nope and never tried.
@slate verge queen It will be possible when we get game scripting (udon)
Which if not delayed will be some time this year
I don’t know much about it other than it is reportably more powerful than playmaker
but how did you know that it will be some time this year? did the dev's mentioned something about it?
That’s the general consensus I hear on this server. I don’t know if there is anything officially confirmed.
oh~~
Why is the pug half of the MB it was yesterday and why are so many things in the pug glitching out or flashing? And something happened between midnight and right now that screwed up some of my avatars hand movements
"update"
The author has probably been optimising it's file size for Quest, and realised it contained a lot of unnecessary bloat or something.
I believe it refers to the one he uses for events, such as McMuze's live music performances'n such.
First time I'm hearing of this.
@unborn dune you were likely glitching out because you joined an old instance shortly after the update.
The canny item for this VRChat issue: https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/when-a-world-is-updated-current-instances-become-unjoinable
The file size reduction is due to finding an issue with the sdk where it references long removed materials in the world. And yes, it was found trying to figure out why it wouldn’t get smaller for Quest.
I wonder if that same bug is what's caused one of my avatars to develop a ridiculous file size lately.
Might be referencing a couple hundred un-used materials from particle design experiments.
Speaking of livestream, does anyone else remember the classic VRChat anniversary livestreams back in like 2013/2014?
the specs for the quest is pretty bad huh?
basically a gaming phone
Not really though
yes really
They are laughable bad for VR
But at the same time, its not a GO
🤔 you have a point
And you cant expect the same thing at all as proper VR.
So people just gotta adjust there thinking of it. Its the same that we dont expect PSVR to be like the index.
Still meme worthy with the VRchat stuff tho
How do you check to see if your name tag changed colors?
Open your quickmenu and look at the color around your portrait in the upper left. it also tells you your trust level
Haha Thanks! Sorry I have only been playing for 4-5 days
Hi! Quick question: are VPNs allowed? I just want to see if that fixes my connection problems
so is the Valve Index controllers (originally Valve Kunckles controllers) support still planned for the game in the future?
i know VRChat will have Valve Index support, but what about the controllers?
yes
they "support" them already but it'll just get better
there was already a tease of it from some dev too
vpn make your connection safer from DDOS attacks
that only useful when you host game servers, but it is still recommendable for normal use
Question though is if we'll have FULL finger tracking support with the knuckles in 2 months
kek the 100 knuckles challenge lmao
yo i just had vrchat crash on me with no warning ._.
or just randomly closed
thefeels
im playing vr chat ffor 6 hours now i have nothing to do xd and im hungry
you cant i think
see this is what problem with vr chat desktop and gamepad users are limited
seriously they need to re-brand vr chat have freedom for everyone to use the features
@hushed harness thank you
Is game unplayable laggy right now?
no choice to downgrade os to play stable vr chat.
@hushed harness can you tell me how a desktop user would realisticlaly be able to use their arms?
they do that in surgeon simulator
why dont use that common sense on vr chat?
keyboard have litterally 100 of combination
shouldn't be hard to update the code all those stuff in one option
You cant compare surgeon simulator to vrchat because if youve ever tried playing it, its extensively hard to control
common sense talk , its possible to run on a gamepad. its vr chat its similiar to have dynamic bone on unity lol.
its still harder to control without full body tracking
If vrchat had similar features it would be extremely hard to control and not realistic at all, best they should have is the ability to rotate objects
^ this
Do you realize dynamic bone is what makes hair move...? A gamepad isnt similar at all
rotate objects
Rotating would be cool, but you can do that via gamepad
you could actually simulate that but yeah vr chat isn't that complicated to update some features for desktop users
huh...
if i am developer i would just convert the desktop version to static model leaving all those dynamic bones still useable at one point, but you can map out all those rotations on buttons.
well i just had to wait some magical devs just put cool features for time being lol.
But isnt the point of vrchat is to experience everything in vr and move in vr and what not with your real arms, i feel sorry for desktop users (including me still) but it wouldn't make sense and would be complicated
jfjjffjidiidiofo
My VR is having this issue where the viewpoint clips with other people's avatars way too quickly. It's not personal space or the avatar, but the actual VR software. I've ran room setups at least 10 different times and I can't fix it. Any help?
@vocal shard that's actually controlled by worlds with a camera reference
@vocal shard once it's set by a world with an override, the setting stays if you move to a world that does not have an override
https://www.vrcw.net/world/detail/wrld_0b1c05b1-bee2-47e9-ae23-b559dc1fc5a3 try loading into this world then going wherever you were going
Even when i restart, reupload, etc. it's still glitched
do you have a custom home world?
yeah maybe that world has a really high near clip plane setting on its reference camera for some reason
so restart vrc with no custom?
the world I linked has a near-zero near clip plane setting so if that fixes it, there's your problem
just load into that world I linked, it should fix itself instantly (but if you move to a world with a bad reference camera it'll break again)
oh ok
also vote for this canny if you're frustrated by this: https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/allow-the-camera-near-clip-plane-to-be-configured-by-the-player
how do i join it
vrchat://launch?id=wrld_0b1c05b1-bee2-47e9-ae23-b559dc1fc5a3:2753~public
load that launch link and it'll dump you into an instance
yes. it happens with every avatar
if so, please test with one of the vrchat official public avatars
can you see your own avatar at the same distance?
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/oculus-home-version-has-too-much-nearclip are you using the oculus home version of vrchat?
no
ugh
this is so infuriating
don't even feel like being on vr anymore
ok so it is the world view issue
Where can I find dinosaur avatars (preferably Primal Carnage and maybe Jurassic World Evolution)?
Another detail I want to add is that I prefer to find it in an in-game world
@dark temple i do see a few dinosaur avatar running around in The Great Pug sometimes
meh dancing dino best one
My one beef with the valve index / knuckle controllers is both sides have an A and B button. no X and Y. this will be confusing for games.
that's understandable
it'll be interesting to see how people differentiate the two
or if they're even designed to be seperate inputs
Is there a way to crouch on gamepad
nope
sad
there is one way though, not sure if its approve
Echo, to me it seems semi-random. Which way is the headset facing when you launch VRChat?
Also, you can try uploading an avatar from the old Unity. They don't seem to have clipping spaces at all
Im just gonna guess what kind of experience tonight will be. Disconnects
broken notifications are turning into the new audio direction bug all over again. hoping it gets fixed some time this year
How do I delete this account
so when I look down with my avatar, the feet look like I’m on tippy-toes
Is there any fix for that lmfao
desktop or VR?
desktop: your viewball is your pivot point. move it further into your head (if you made the avatar) to stop that.
VR: change your player height taller so you move downwards
U can also remove toe bones if u have them and ur the one making the avatar, if u don’t want tip toeing at all.
why is it that people can still crash others even when you disable their animations? 
hi??
@modest halo modded clients is an example.. these can bypass most stuff and are usually made with ill intent
The worst is when your having a casual conversation then some jealous dude teleports you to the top of the map with a dozen portals
You dont need to pass the limitations
some AAA games have fewer limitations
Only reason to bypass them is to wreck people's performance or in some cases even pc
gotta love how vrchat doesn't do anything about it 🙄 yea they can ban people but that doesn't solve the issues
it does... fora while... untill they play it for 20 hours again
which is totally a much better way to do it than manual curation
I doubt they can wreck your pc, that's probably more of a rumor than anything
hi
it can probly wreck your laptop
seeing how laptops can easly overheat.
tho u would have to be p wreckless then
and your laptop would shut off before that from failsafe
i really dislike the fearmongering from people who are afraid that their pcs will melt down from playing vrc
@vocal shard thank you, you’re a legend lol
all good 😃
Are the VRChat team planning on freeing up names on dead accounts?
I would like to be Blue 
lmao
bs search bar. Searching the full title doesn't bring up the correct world, but if i search just the first word of the world it will appear.
how ya'll doin?
hello
Vrchat's search is space-delimited OR instead of AND, for some daft reason.
Searching for "water world" will match worlds with water, or world in it. and maybe ones with both. so it would match "trout world", even though that's totally irrelevant.
@worthy oracle remove toe bones in the unity rig
that 100% eliminates tippy toes
you don't need toe bones anyway.
before i knew i was doing the viewpoint thing aswell but that's a bad fix.
unless you're not bothered by having the viewpoint below your nose or something lol.
i find it very uncomfortable in vr
guys, anyone else stuck on this for all eternity? https://imgur.com/DhPo1TQ
@strange wagon 💙
I can only think of one particular instance where toe bones would be useful 👀
if you have to go a little bit higher for whatever reason
But I wanna tippy toes ;-;
Actually I got legs so I tippy to less often
well I’m desktop anyway lol
does anyone wanna play vrchat
School is for losers
Losers who are planning their future to become successful people
Anyone know if the Index will support the Vive Trackers for Full body tracking? I would assume it would, since they use SteamVR tracking
I assumed as much
I don't like toe bones
Everything is so sensitive that you often end up on your toes even in seated play
My game crashed today 4th time and i hate it
Nice got my 3th time automatic teleport to your homeworld problem again 😦
Oof
@rotund jacinth people could be crashing because of crashers
So like, why dont they just implement boolean into the search bar, like being able to set EITHER, AND, OR, NOT
Also I havent been crashing, but I have been getting sent home a lot in VR
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@eager reef it will support full body though that depends on what kind of base stations you plan on keeping
are you buying the full index bundle or just the hmd and knuckles?
because base station 2.0 will not track 1st gen hardware. meaning, if u have vive 1.0 trackers, 2.0 base stations will NOT track them
but it works out the other way around. 1.0 base stations will track 2.0 hardware like the index, knuckles, and vive 2.0 trackers
I'd be getting the 2.0 trackers
The FBT vive trackers work with 2.0, otherwise you wouldnt be able to use them with Vive pro
When you purchase them from the site they dont specify 1.0 or 2.0
Yeah they stopped manufacturing of the 1.0 when I bought mine the 2.0 just released and those are the ones I received.
I wonder if vrchat will have full compatibility with the index controllers from the start, I can understand if it'll be a couple of updates later but I'm just curious
As far as im aware it'll be a few updates later, as we havent heard of any update as of now about the IK
Did oculus bork an update or something? Seems im getting the trackers cant see the headset issue..
Well, they have until June 28th ship date ish for the support
Which is just under 2 months ish
True I'm excited for them
Just wish I could get liek, $1300 for free to buy it and FBT uwu
Don't forget the mounts for The trackers
I'm actually pretty lucky
I was hoping they'd release their headset this year so I worked super hard during christmas and built a new PC
My job wont even give me the hours rip
I had $2k ready to go for any VR related stuff
I wasn't planning on spending 2k so i'm totally fine with 1k.
hey is anyone having trouble with blinking animations and dynamic bones? whenever i upload an avatar, dynamic bones and blinking does not work
limiter?
logging in not working
!online
There are 7170 users in VRChat currently
already did those two things
it's not only mine problem
Same
Same
Im now stuck logging in
No I'm Australia
All of my US friends said they can get on no issue
just many russian have same issue
Probably yes, my Belarus and British friends can log in
maybe its affecting certain countries
cant login, ru
any "we investigating the problem" message from administration pls?
hey can some one help me ith my modle a bit i know how to do basics i just need to know how to re size something due to the hair not fitting my avatar
Anyone else's VRC loading things unreasonably slow, like world and avatar pictures in the menus and logging in?
@left remnant ask in #avatars-2-general or #user-support-old
oh sorry!
i can't log in either
Hi
authorization is working with Netherlands VPN without problems
so any idea what's up with all the random crashes as of late?.. vrchat hasn't crashed on me for like 3 months. and as of the last 1-2 updates ago or so i've crashed over 50 times now.
first time playing vrchat so excited
Have fun Dipper. 😃
Thanks !
still cant get in
same
10 years later, still stuck in logging in screen
if you cant get in Vrchat and or you keep getting sent back to your home world this is my temporary fix for it, it works for a while but it won't fix it forever.
shutdown your PC and Router, unplug the power cord from your router and hit the power button to drain any remaining energy in your router.
wait around 30 seconds to turn your router back on
wait until you have internet to turn your PC back on then try going back on Vrchat
this has helped me out but several hours later i did keep getting sent back to my home world again. I hope this helps some of you guys though
tried that
If your router is acting up, you'd see issues across the entire network, not just a few games iirc
I set my dynamic bone limiter to double the normal limits and people still get mad telling me to turn it off because I can’t see their stuff
ignore them shits
Still don't understand the hate people get for disabling dynamic bones seems childish
yes its so stupid
ifewfiuew mee
L
i dont rage since i like games like that
btu its funny as hell t osee and hear my other friends reaction
i die hard when i keep seeing them die lmao
i was always wonder wat the name is called!
i always wanted to go back to it
awee really that sad!
well im gonna try it noowoww jifejfiwefj
ok!
oh when i type in the world do i type in the number like discord right lol
ahh okkk
hate how it doesnt show up when i type it in search
im gonna add you and follow you pika lol what ur ign?
Elizabeth7ds
accepted 😄
Haja what level are you on?
Oohhh okk
6 for now!
7 now
Okay that's enough for now haha 😂😂pizza time
is there anywhere that I could find an Iron Man avatar?
I did, all I found was some place that is just a "avengers museum" that is just a room with some items from the MCU in it
can't find it
yeh I can't find it
?
how do I join it?
the buttons aren't doing anything?
is vr chat down?
how do I find the folder?
We need more jiggles physics
greeting
man crashers on vr chat are fudging annoying
Hey, does anybody know anyone that Hosts D&D Games in VRChat? A.K.A The Dungeon Master?
I can dm
Oh wow, really?
But you've played alot?
Well then. . . that umm. . . was easier that i thought
Lol
Alrighty then
I just finished playing some DnD in VRChat an hour or so ago, been doing it for almost 2 years now, not exactly an open game however.
Dumb question incoming, how do I know what trust level the game's got me at? I've been around for a while, just don't know if the game will count it as a long time or not
I think I was regular user last I checked and then played a ton after that
hello, the void club entrance is not working for me, wondering if anyone else have this issue
@floral coral hi sorry for the late response but try in-game menu -> social -> in room -> select yourself, your trust level should be there
About to hop on vrchat my username is .lego. if ya want to add me might be streaming soon
also it appears if you hover over the top left corner above the worlds button
@vocal shard style
does anyone know how to Decimate an avatar?
wut?
hello welcome
yes can we chat?
sure
i already chat you
rip
anyone else is getting stuck in a loading screen ?
Well, purchased an Oculus today, and I have a 1050 ti, but apparently there is still an issue regarding my graphics drivers. I have been trying to figure this crap out for 6 hours now, to no avail. If anyone wants to give me a hint, that would be super duper 😆
one sec, i downloaded something that told me if my system was working or not for vr
okey
@sudden void is it a laptop or pc
hi guys?
how do i make an eye lazer move when i move my mouse in game?
-_-
whats up
I wonder if VRChat will support the index controllers..
You could still have the default finger poses + the finger tracking because luckily they have joysticks (or whatever :P). It could only have true support if you can click the joysticks.
If so, you could walk/snap turn and use finger poses with one joystick.
If not, you could use A or B to switch into finger pose mode to and from walk/snap turn.
I would suggest not using the finger tracking to sense poses and activate whatever is attached to them.. for obvious reasons (random accidental poses and having to keep them in a certain position for long)
Although we need a button to cancel the default poses or to switch to finger tracking to default poses.
I think some people would prefer the finger tracking = default poses thing.. so maybe that could be an option?
(you know ya boi pre-ordered it)
I have been away from vrchat for a year. Who has made good vrchat content this past year?
"Woops", he's a nice streamer with a really friendly fanbase.
Thanks, I will see about binge watching some of his videos rn.
Ah one more, idk how i forgot about this legend.
"Lolathon" (not a loli)
He's a meme mime who interprets memes with versions of his avatar. Really funny. He's in 99% of clip compilations.
@covert linden PC
You could still have the default finger poses + the finger tracking because luckily they have joysticks (or whatever :P). It could only have true support if you can click the joysticks. If so, you could walk/snap turn and use finger poses with one joystick.
The knuckles actually has a touchpad as well! I'd hope I can bind my gestures to that and use the joystick to regularly walk, and when i'm not doing a gesture it has full finger tracking
Someone sent me a compatibility check, and I ran it. Apparently one of my USB ports, is not compatible
That's... odd
Yea
Here's what i'd suggest if you can
Something along these lines
As long as you have a spare PCI-E slot, you can pick one of these up for relatively cheap and get some more compatible ports
Maybe there's a check we could do to see if they're malfunctioning or not
I totally have 3 USB 3.0 ports, one of which is apparently NOT USB 3.0, and several USB 2.0 ports
Alright so I gave it a google
If you want to know if you have USB 3.0 or 3.1 ports, or just 2.0, you can check it in the device manager
Right click the windows icon, go to device manager
Ahhh gotcha
usually USB 3.0 ports are blue while 2.0 are not
That's true but that might not be the case
Anyways
Under "Universal Serial Bus controllers" you should see something called "USB Root Hub"
It's very odd if they're not compatible, did they give any extra detail?
Also yeah does it show (USB 3.0) next to the USB Root Hub?
Nope, just that ONE of the ports was incompatible, I switched them around and everything, no clue
Odd
That shows a hub for USB Ports
Usually it means there's multiple USB ports per one of those
Ahh ok
I have 3, I have a USB 3.0 Extender, some on my case and some in the back of my motherboard
So exactly what's your issue?
It just says one port isn't compatible?
I'll dm you a photo or two, one of which will be a screenshot of what the compat. test shows
Cool, let's figure this out
Haha 'preciate ya!
?..
What's going on?
... i need mental help
Oh, i thought the index controller touchpad was just foward and backward. Very good to know! It's much easier to add support now.
That also means you can play any other vive game as normal? Maybe?
I think so
I know it looks a bit of a teeny boy but from what i've seen it has full range.
At least from what i've seen so far. It seemed like in the new Knuckles training video that the person was moving them and they had full range
https://youtu.be/wDcMgWAJt9Y?t=200 @lapis sandal Timestamped
Check this out.
Ah ok, it definitely looks like it has full range.
I like how we're both finding out basic stuff about this hardware after we've ordered it
LMAO
I guess maybe they noticed you only need half a thumb to go left and right
And yeah seriously, the vr hype is too big to notice these key things
I wish the demand wasn't so high so people could actually get it at launch
Rather than a 30 minute preorder timing then months of nothing
Oh oof, im actually preordering it saturday night. Hopefully it doesnt go out of stock by then.
@lapis sandal I don't think this server permits the use of Pepe emojis or profile pictures, as stated in the #rules
God, hate that rule. When will they ban the 👌 ok sign as well?
I can understand it. I dont think the admins really would want to foster discussion around that in this discord
@queen mango i guess some dont care about the rules or joined with it as their pfp
@true sky What are rules?!
🤔
16. No emoji, icons or pictures/memes that are widely associated with hate speech, or are highly inappropriate (such as Pepe)
found it
look how They massacred my boy pepe
I think banning something because it was used by some extreme trolls is dumb. There would have to be banned soo much, not just the pepe meme
Wont get banned just yet
True
i dont have a problem myself, if the rule wasnt there, then you know what everyone would do almost
praise mark Zuckerburg
@true sky what would everyone do?
post pepe emotes
I don't care for the frog, but I see zero harm in that.
but i guess it has to do with January 15th of last year 🤔
Or last, last year. I wasn't there so I dunno when the rule was implemented
i am not 100% sure when it was added
I think things started getting complicated by the U.S elections Donald trump using it and whatever
Some say the ok hand sign is "supposedly a symbol of white power", should it be banned now too, just because some used it inappropriately? I don't think so, it's dumb
it is, besides, the world is far bigger than just the U.S.A
Wait, you mean the center of the universe isn't the US?
Okay, let's not get too philosophical here and go to #general-media
hello
No u
🤔
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uwu
hello
Hello, but for put your own skins, do you have to play 30 hours on the game, or 30 hours on Unity?
It depends on how active you are in the game.
Making friends, participating in social activities like karaoke, joining game worlds, etc.
T_T?
anyone here know about colliders with avatars? owo
No
it is unfortunate that one does not do their research properly, but oh well.

I want to find a boxing avatar or something. Any ideas? Maybe i'll just go find a Sagat avatar.
@slate verge was that in regards to me because I assure you there hasnt been an answer yet.
oh no i meant about the meme emoji's and stuff
Do you guys think that maybe if the dev's would force the polygons to a certain threshold, everyone else will likely optimized their models/avatars for better performance? or nah?
it is forced to 70k already
is that the lowest?
oh uh huh
It's not forced though.
its forced via sdk
was thinking maybe below 40k bare minimum
only then almost most avatars will be excellent for performance play
well there's things called modded sdk
although in-game it reads as poor
so yeah
hm....
How about we just start from beginnijg and everything back to 5k lol
it would be a terrible game with low poly's lol....15k is the least minimum polygons for most models to appear optimized while still looking high quality
well I just wish people didn't go over board nowadays. But my avatars i make or upload its basic, i dont need all those accessories and effects
you're right.
m
If anyone here uses firefox and wonders why all their extensions/addons are disabled/listed as unsupported: Everyone using Firefox is affected. it's an expired certificate. It hast do do with the signing method that Mozilla uses for addons. They dun fucked up. They are working on a fix apparently.
What a colossal f*ckup wow xD
Does anyone remember if VRchat was giving away the home world for self editing? I forgot where it was shared too if so.
I might be mistaken, but isn't it part of the SDK?
Oh?
@still lark So there’s no purpose to it then?
let me check.
I might be wrong tho
Hmm.
Not seeing it could be one of the prefab samples, let me load new untiy and check.
Ah, I just noticed this too, thank you for helping.
np
I was worrying that my home made by someone else would get taken down one day, as of late, the been a lot of really good worlds getting pulled by the makers, so I am starting to think a self made world would be better.
There's always the possibility of a world going private/inaccessible yeah
hihihi -_-
Hello
would any kindly make a disgaea avatar world
How come there's no Ugandan knuckles that often on this game anymore?
Because we have purged them aka meme died out
Because it's an old unfunny meme?
But if everyone became him again, the meme would live on
Everyone would be more annoyed now
Just so you all know, the kno da wae meme still lives in my heart.
Nah, we'd hate it.
I mean, a lot of us hated it at the time too.
I'd rather not see it come back to VRChat. Even if it did put VRChat into public interest.
knuckles was always cute to me
It won't come back, and I seriously doubt anything like it will happen again in VRC. These kinds of things are generally one-time events and that's it. And any effort to try to cause another just prevents the already microscoptic chances of a second happening.
now all there is are erp anime girlies and cringeyness
Sigh
Must evil do unto evil?
The meme died. What did you expect? PewDiePie reviewed it
1 am
Only anime girls 
no meme is dead if people still uses some of the avatars and mutters some of the quotes
De way
#general-media please
sorry
I'm on vive pro wireless and recently changed to steamvr beta, ever since i did every time i move forward with the wand in a semi-busy room the headset shows Application not responding for a few seconds even though the application on my screen is clearly working fine. Anyone also experience this?
ill roll it back but it adds nice features just wondering if anyone had a workaround
I know there was a project file so you could edit the home. I downloaded it like two weeks ago somewhere on the vrchat site.
and the guy I replied to was like 8 miles up the chat.
i dont know if i can play vr chat with windows mixed reality
You should be able to, I know several people who do.
Wmr works for vrchat
Could someone help me find some specific maps? I need a basement, dungeon, or alley thats dark and maybe has a spotlight for a fight club. (I know there is a mpa that has a chess table and a big spotlight in the middle.. something like that).. Then need to re-enact the movie Titanic.. so I need a car that I can smudge the steamy window of, a couch for painting french girls, and a devastatingly tragic demise.
Also an engine room could work for the fight as well as the sex scene in a car.
Thanks in advance!
Also, I need a psychiatrist's office for couples therapy.
1 offbrand cola product PRONTO
I gotchu
There are seriously no Street FIghter avatars/
Im trying to find a borderlands avatar map that i went to a couple times like 6 months ago..
Quick question. Are Friends Only worlds considered public or private?
Semi Private. Any friend can still freely join.
I'm asking because my friends aren't sure if it's safe to be NSFW in Friends only.
If you're asking it for that its less about what is considered what
the moment someone reports it you'll get in trouble
It remains against the rules. If you for example invite someone to a invite only instance and that one doesnt like it and reports you, you'll still get in trouble for doing it.
So you mean NSFW isn't safe to use in any world?
Its more a rule that once your reported your fucked. If no one reports you its fine.
They will not actively hunt for people doing these acts in non global rooms.
Exactly
its hard for them to know where you got reported at so since sexual content is against the rules they punish it
Thats pretty much it ^
Ironically enough you can totally do anything nsfw related unless there is nudity though
Or id love to have someone explain that strip dance room that gets thrown on youtube every few weeks being allowed 👀
Oh. I honestly never knew. All my friends have told me and also the loading screen announcements have told me that NSFW content is allowed specifically in invite, invite plus and friends only worlds.
Pretty sure the loading room says only the first two
it doesnt tell you its allowed in private instances.
it just tells you where it definitely will cause imidiate issues
There's a part of me that say set it up to where you can become age verified and it allows 18+ rooms but that can cause issues
I hope I'm not in trouble for not knowing this.
Well theres some social platforms that acually required an id and it worked well
there is more to it then verifying the games.
Publicity and standing towards sponsors are a big factor aswell
would you invest into a platform actively encouraging porngraphic content?
i wouldnt
All i can think about are the news articles showing up then 😂
That also-
And the youtube blacklisting 🤔
So, summarization: NSFW content is not allowed in any world even private?
its not officially allowed no
so... be smart... keep it hidden... and you know... what the loading screen says. 😃
And unofficially its allowed unless you get reported.
So its best to just not risk it and get that lewd fix on somewhere else
unofficially?
Man, trust me with the heaps of stuff i seen, reported myself and heard of that surpasses my fairly limited definition of nsfw id say its allowed and not just tollerated.
So, does the loading screen say it's okay in invite and invite plus only?
Oclac knows me well enogh 
I stay a two arm lengths away from anything nsfw related in this game but even i know plenty of names who for sure break the official rules.
So i highly doubt the staff doesnt know at all.
Also Fez, Fpaul is one of the few that thinks before taking actions so id dare to talk to him.
is anyone getting really high png on vrchat?
Having a high ping is normal for VRchat unless you are from NA
Yeah.
nope uk
should be 180-200ish on a good one
200-300 range yea
Sorry. I'm just having trouble trying to understand the rules and I want to make sure.
Should I move my discussion to user support?
i got a wireless USB and i been fixing the internet and my internet is all fine i can get on steam and play games but when in vrchat i can move anyone can understand me and im not lagging for anyone but when i see anyone they look like they are doing a bad robot dance
No the loading screen does not say its okay
it just says where its definitely gonna cause imidiate issues
the rest is your interpretation 😃
Welp im going to head out 👋 Take care.
AlsoStatic, being on wifi makes ping often leaps higher. The game is fairly network heavy and wifi sticks/modems are often far from great.
My interpretation? What should I interpret as? Sorry. I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just genuinely confused and I wanna be safe with my actions.
Wireless USB dongle? 
@split aspen it only says that it will definitely lead to a ban in public instances.
Reading that as "its allowed in private then" is a interpretation while it isnt mentioned at all.
Overall we have said everything. Keep it to invite and only accept people you trust in wont cause you trouble.
i think so i used to have a normal part at the back of my pc that connected me to the internet fine but then it was not working so i got a new one and it like a USB Port that i stick in and i can move it around
But if anyone of the trusted people feels not good about it and reports you, you can always get in trouble.
Wait. You mean it's undecided of whether it's allowed in invite and invite plus worlds? So I should be good as long as I know the people in the world are okay with the content?
basically.
Okay. Thank you for your time and patience. Sorry that I was having trouble understanding.
vrchat down?
i got disconnected from a world and i cant join any i have black screen
what is it this time
same here @lethal summit
what they do now
so everyone got disconnected i see
yea
I'm still in
briliant
🤔
same here
Restarting hasn't fixed it for me
Everything is working once more, I'm still in game
Yo I just restarted VR and its not logging in still
Did everything break
guess so
Ah yeah. Everyone is saying it is
rip
