vrchat-general-2

[stone current]

in the descriptor u put any animation overrides

[tacit plank]

But watch a tutorial on it. It's much easier than explaining it in text

[vocal shard]

Then yell at it: "THEY ON YA FUCKIN HEAD"

[stone current]

the viewpoint (where ur camera gonna be)

and also stuff for lip sync

[dark narwhal]

Why do i need a descriptor if im blind irl

[rigid crescent]

https://youtu.be/VBZu_wNzERw here's a shorter basic tutorial 👌

[stone current]

put viewpoint up u bum

[vocal shard]

put powerpoint up ya bum

[stone current]

[covert linden]

Mic have u met jamie irl?

[vocal shard]

have you met Doki irl Ash?

[stiff osprey]

I voice act as shaggy, so I do the impression as only shaggy, people say I do a good job at it so im new to unity this is my first night using it, i added mp3 scooby doo intro loop music to add to my mystery gang model van so it loops while i ride it

[stone current]

lol

what is the question then

also i thot the sounds had 2 be .ogg

[stiff osprey]

I think mike got me

mic

[vocal shard]

Could you record yourself doing a shaggy imitation? like being serious here I wanna hear it

[stone current]

lol

[covert linden]

I havent

[stiff osprey]

can you vc in this?

[vocal shard]

nahhh

[stone current]

.-.

[vocal shard]

Download OBS, or just use some recording software for it

[stone current]

audacity 🐶👌

[covert linden]

I wanna meet dokii but money and parents get in the way but one day this year hopefully

[vocal shard]

OBS = Free and Easy to Setup

[stiff osprey]

no i already got the mp3 done and stuff lol

[stone current]

then wat is the question

[stiff osprey]

im just trying to import my project to my model in vrchat

[vocal shard]

I wanted to hear you do a shaggy imitation

[stiff osprey]

but i cant get passed the scene descriptor issue

[vocal shard]

;(

[covert linden]

Copypasta https://youtu.be/VBZu_wNzERw here's a shorter basic tutorial ok_hand

[stone current]

u dont put a scene descriptor

u put avatar descriptor, its not a world lol

[covert linden]

Use that tutorial

[stiff osprey]

ok

[stone current]

u cant use scripts or anything either

[tacit plank]

Watch the tutorial, it's essential

[stone current]

only the stuff whitelisted on docs

[covert linden]

All tutoriaals are essential

[stone current]

how 2 pat a dogo 101

[stiff osprey]

oooof 34 mins

like im not making a full avatar im just trynna simply import my project to vrchat, but i cant because i cant import because of the dmb issue of avatar descriptor

like is this a big issue its popping up

[covert linden]

Go to the tutorial none of us can explain this easily in text.

[vocal shard]

#avatars-2-general

Did we forget that this channel existed?

[covert linden]

We all have used tutorials it is what it is

[stone current]

bro wtf u talking about

'im not making a full avatar' then u cant possibly add anything...

[tacit plank]

I can find a 5 min tutorial if you want

[stiff osprey]

please

[stone current]

u can only upload
A) an avatar
B) a world
and thats it

[covert linden]

Man I watched tuppers hour long mega tutorial

[stiff osprey]

wunder, smh

[covert linden]

Wunder is right

[stiff osprey]

Im aware

of those

[stone current]

then y u saying 'im not making a full avatar, i just want something on an avatar of mine'

[tacit plank]

https://youtu.be/khCALzx24fA?t=152 Unity part is only 3 minutes long

[vocal shard]

You promised a 5 minutes tutorial, but you cheap out and get a 3 minute one?

[covert linden]

Gosh how dare you

[tacit plank]

Unity part is 3. Full video is 5:22 😛

[stiff osprey]

Im saying Im literally just trying to fix this avatar descriptor issue or scene descriptor

[tacit plank]

Yes, follow the video

[stiff osprey]

mr.doggo

[covert linden]

Ok no e of us wanna type out how we legit all watched a tutorial so you can do thr same

[vocal shard]

STOP

WATCH THE TUTORIAL

Thanks :)

[tacit plank]

I watched Tuppers 50 minute tutorial when I started out

[covert linden]

Same

[vocal shard]

I would have watched those tutorials as well

But I kinda stopped playing VRChat, and my interest waned

[covert linden]

I also made @dark narwhal sit with me for a week and teach me everyrhing

[dark narwhal]

It was a long week

[covert linden]

You enjoyed it

[dark narwhal]

Press Z

[tacit plank]

I had no motivation towards making avatars. I did however, have obsession

[stiff osprey]

LMAO

I fixed it

[tacit plank]

See, you could do it

[stiff osprey]

found a resolution on steam community

[covert linden]

.-.

[stiff osprey]

no thanks for tutorials

[covert linden]

The tutorial wouldve fixed it~

[tacit plank]

Have fun positioning your viewport and adding mouth tracking

[stiff osprey]

all I did was

[vocal shard]

If you don't wanna watch tutorials that save you time and effort, then our help is pointless

[rigid crescent]

all you did was do the thing that was in the video lol

[stiff osprey]

add component, searched "vrc avatar descriptor" then added it

[rigid crescent]

except it took you longer to figure out

[stiff osprey]

literally fixed my issue.

you guys could of not just said that ?

[rigid crescent]

No

[covert linden]

Yes thats legit common sense when it tells u to add something.. u add it

[tacit plank]

Tutorials will also tell you how textures work, how to get eye tracking, how to get moving mouth, do dynamic bones, have the camera view right, about common mistakes and how to fix them. Optimization, etc.

[rigid crescent]

Because if you don't know that it means you didn't learn all of the proper steps.

[dark narwhal]

Maybe...in Avatar chat

[stiff osprey]

this is my first time using unity

[rigid crescent]

so why would you not watch a tutorial?

[stiff osprey]

how would I even know how to do that

[covert linden]

Ok then yiu should be using a tutorial

[vocal shard]

Here, I'll tell you everything you need to do @stiff osprey will you listen to me?

[rigid crescent]

you're just proving us right, please stop lol

[stiff osprey]

nah im good, I got it thanks anyway

[vocal shard]

I'll tell you anyway

[tacit plank]

You can probably upload that avatar now, but I bet you that it still doesn't work like you want it to, and you will have to watch the tutorial anyways

[covert linden]

theres a reason tuppers mega tutorial exists

[tacit plank]

If you can't spend 5 minutes on a video, then Good luck in university

[vocal shard]

My advice: Watch a fucking tutorial and stop bitching and whining and proving our point

[rigid crescent]

It's good but out of date, I usually link Kareeda's now tbh

[vocal shard]

thanks :)

[stiff osprey]

you know how long tutorials take lmao

[covert linden]

Oh ok good to know Mic

[rigid crescent]

Less than 15 minutes

[tacit plank]

I just send you a 5:22 one

[rigid crescent]

His is a 30 minute one, half of it was Blender which you skip.

[covert linden]

Do you know how long learninf takes if you dont use one and your whole model falls apart?

[vocal shard]

THey last much longer than his attention span, it's pointless

[rigid crescent]

If you want to actually learn, you typically learn from other people

[stiff osprey]

I tried all today looking for fixes

[vocal shard]

has anyone had a problem trying to talk with friends who just got vrchat? Cause they say they are in a certain server, I join them, she isnt there, and it just says shes in vrchat home, and when I go and join, shes not on there at ALL.

[tacit plank]

You spend all day, but 5 minutes is too much?

[rigid crescent]

"I tried all today looking for fixes." "do you know how long watching a tutorial takes"

[covert linden]

@vocal shard she couls be on a different updated versiom than you

[rigid crescent]

You realize how much of a potato you sound like?

[dark narwhal]

Can i make a speed run tutorial

[vocal shard]

She just downloaded vrchat..

[stiff osprey]

you know how many steps were in that tutorial?

[vocal shard]

how is it not the updated version..

[tacit plank]

Kaze, sometimes you need to hide (collapse) and expand the friend menu to force it to update

[stiff osprey]

35 mins

[covert linden]

Do you know how many steps are in making a.model?

[rigid crescent]

who says you ahve to watch it from start to finish forehead

find the part where unity starts, and awtch that

[covert linden]

LOL FOREHEAD

[tacit plank]

If she leaves a room, it might take a few minutes to update that

[rigid crescent]

i hate the phrase common sense, but come on

[vocal shard]

Do you know how many fucks we give about that da-boss? 0

[stiff osprey]

I got into unity because I met a modder

[covert linden]

good for you?

[stiff osprey]

unity is alot for someone that just starts

[covert linden]

THATZ WHY THERES TUTORIALS

[tacit plank]

These tutorials tell you what to do and why, they basically hold your hand

[covert linden]

AAAAAAAAAAA

[rigid crescent]

oh my god

you want ot learn but you dont want to spend the time ot learn

[dark narwhal]

You guys are fun to watch

[stiff osprey]

But I tutorials take toooo long regardless so I don't carreee

[rigid crescent]

do you know how dumb that sounds

you spend all day looking for a fix correcT?

[covert linden]

Then have fun with non functioning models

[rigid crescent]

you could've spent 20 minutes watching a video

[tacit plank]

I can tell by your profile picture that you're not very old, but if you don't learn it properly, then you will mess up, and it will be more work in the long run

[rigid crescent]

people so so lazy it's pathetic

[stiff osprey]

good

[dark narwhal]

Remember model making pre cats

[subtle prawn]

Its the way of the future, simplicity

[stiff osprey]

then I like being a lazy, pathetic person lmao

[rigid crescent]

lol you mean the stone age

[dark narwhal]

Yeee

[rigid crescent]

oh good, now you'll make sure no one ever helps you in the future, ty for saving us all time

[tacit plank]

Raise above the usual kid that only has a 10 second attention span thanks to his phone and internet

[covert linden]

Then next time go to #avatars-2-general and dont waste our time if youre gonna google it and not take our advice

[stiff osprey]

tutorials are a pain in the ass, so I was not gonna watch it

[covert linden]

Then dont ask for advice

[rigid crescent]

What's worse, spending ALL DAY looking for a fix or FIFTEEN MINUTES watching/skimming a video and learning

[stiff osprey]

I would of assumed really smart people that use unity professionally would understand a simple issue>

[tacit plank]

Tutorials are also basically a guarantee of success

[rigid crescent]

Who here uses unity professionally lol

[covert linden]

None of us use it proffessionally

[rigid crescent]

outside of the devs, obv

[covert linden]

Bro I work at fast food all I do professionally is make burgers

[dark narwhal]

Wdym im a pro i made 40 dollars once

[stiff osprey]

but I assume you all know more than me for just joining?

[rigid crescent]

dang 40 :3 thats my starting price big

[tacit plank]

People that are good at Unity will still tell you to watch a tutorial

[covert linden]

Yes but we all watched tutorials.

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, guess what we all did? Watch tutorials

[covert linden]

All of us. Im not gonna give you help so you can skip out on common sense

[stiff osprey]

when I meant all day I was not literally, I just ment like I looked everywhere and nothing helped

[rigid crescent]

All these people who are experts and some that even make shit from scratch? All learned from tutorials, whether it's blender ones, or youtube ones

We all 'put our time in' so to speak

[tacit plank]

Because you will need to make the avatar humanoid. You will need to set the eye position.
You have an avatar descriptor, but your avatar will just T-pose and glide around, and your camera will likely float far above it

[covert linden]

I tried to argue out of a tutorial too, realized it wss a bad idea because sai bullied me and spent the next 7 hours slowly watching tuppers mega tutorial and making my model

[rigid crescent]

Like I remember Ash didn't know anything and she learned and now she's MLG pro

[stiff osprey]

oh no

[covert linden]

Im excited for them to ask help whys my avatar tposing and floating

AAA TY MIC XD

[stiff osprey]

like I watched a video on t posing for avatar emotes

that one was easy, but adding particle shit and crap gets difficult real quick lol

[covert linden]

Im proud of myself because I now know how to properly weighpaint and ive changed the shapes of things and I can put clothes on and face and head swap too

[tacit plank]

Adding particle is clicking a button and filling in numbers

[rigid crescent]

when i met ash she didnt evne have shoes and now look at her

[covert linden]

I still dont have shoes

I decided I like being barefoot

[dark narwhal]

Now she forever will have to weightpaint for me

[covert linden]

Im ok with that

[tacit plank]

My current catgirl needed her shoes deleted to be under the polygon limit

[stiff osprey]

so making fireworks is a simple button click caffefine? lol

[rigid crescent]

yeh i did the same thing tbh, my first custom doesn't have shoes stuff

[tacit plank]

Basically, yeah

[covert linden]

Im changing the dress soon on my main model and im hype

[tacit plank]

Make thingy, when thingy disappears, spawn new thingy.

[stiff osprey]

not too sure about that one

[tacit plank]

First thingy is trail, second thingy is explosion

[covert linden]

OH MIC I made a haruhi suzumiya model that began naked and put clothes on it and weighpainted it all to the body and made it fit really nice

Its the first haruhi vrc model!

[rigid crescent]

lol my friend has a creepy realistic one

[covert linden]

Oh woah

I guess im not the first but I wanna see that

[stiff osprey]

oof, I don't weeb so it's like im a mexican in japan

in here

[covert linden]

Get outta here man

Tryna talk about haruhi

[stiff osprey]

idk who that is, because it's probably a random weeb anime ya know

[dark narwhal]

^^^

[covert linden]

Good for you

[stiff osprey]

no way third edit, go on XD

[vocal shard]

btw

can visitors clone avatars, or..

cause my friend cant clone avatars at all for some reason.

[covert linden]

Lol yeah I have typos but my my pfp isnt roblox

[vocal shard]

I have the thing enabled.

[rigid crescent]

damn, exposed and eradicated

[covert linden]

I think they can, some models you cant copy

[stiff osprey]

what are the odds you're a man as a girl character .-.

[tacit plank]

I just had a look.
Add a particle system, and then a "Sub emitter" which is "on death" for the second effect

[covert linden]

Nope im an actual girl

[rigid crescent]

nah ash is boi

[covert linden]

WYM

[tacit plank]

Men playing girl characters is 90% of VRChat

[stiff osprey]

that's why i said it

[rigid crescent]

People playing girl cahracters is 90% of the internet lol

[covert linden]

Wait I forgot I was a group proclaimed male here

[stiff osprey]

traps lmao everywhere

[rigid crescent]

not what a trap is but ok

[covert linden]

I may be a girl irl but on here im a dude

[rigid crescent]

nevermind, forgot, smoothbrain ecks dee

[covert linden]

Least im not 12

[stiff osprey]

Im not 12

but great assumption because of my image

[tacit plank]

Trap is crossdresser, or at the very least, one which tries to convince others that they're another gender

[covert linden]

And behavior

[tacit plank]

And username

[dark narwhal]

Im a vrc trap

[stiff osprey]

Alot of older people play roblox as well

[covert linden]

doki is the cutest trap

[rigid crescent]

definitely not your iamge

[dark narwhal]

Worked obviously

[tacit plank]

A lot*

[stiff osprey]

my iamge is great

its a meme for a reason

[covert linden]

Iamge

[rigid crescent]

im saying its not why i assumed you were 12 as well

[stiff osprey]

roblox is a meme

[tacit plank]

Among children, yes

[covert linden]

I assumed 12 because of behavior, I know people who arent 12 and play robloc

[dark narwhal]

"Oof"

[stiff osprey]

to many people?

[vocal shard]

Any mods on?

[stiff osprey]

"oof" is right

[covert linden]

AA DID KESHA LEAVE THE SERVER

@vocal shard

Nvm I found her

[tacit plank]

Some use "oof", but half of them doesn't know what Roblox is

[stiff osprey]

another fellow robloxer

[dark narwhal]

Lol keshaa

[covert linden]

Kesha is the best man

[rigid crescent]

yeah people use kek all the time but I rarely meet people who know the original

[tacit plank]

And I know all these shitty memes, I just dislike them

[stiff osprey]

If you don't know oof how do you have a soul>

[vocal shard]

Im a fellow robloxer.

[stiff osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-oof-troll-dance-gif-12337061

[vocal shard]

Problem with me and you'll get the oof.

[stiff osprey]

darn

gifs don't work in here

[tacit plank]

It's easy, I don't need to mindlessly copy the behaviour or other people in order to feel valued or like a part of something

[stiff osprey]

who are you talking to

Im not copying anyone's behaivor

[tacit plank]

Is that not what memes are?

[stone current]

[tacit plank]

Especially for those that don't know the origin or meaning

[stiff osprey]

memes are memes?

[covert linden]

A gtg I love half of you byeee

[stone current]

baibai

[tacit plank]

Lmao, laters

[stone current]

lmao haters

[covert linden]

Also guys im a guy now

[stone current]

do u luv me

[dark narwhal]

Wait which half?

[tacit plank]

"I love half of you" is a great sentence

[covert linden]

Yws

[stone current]

[covert linden]

Its moree like 95%

[stiff osprey]

memes are created based off of funny moments in time I believe

im that 5% seems legit

[covert linden]

Aa my taxi driver is gonna kill us hell

Help

[stiff osprey]

roblox taxi driver was a meme

[stone current]

[tacit plank]

Some memes are based on funny things, some are based on events. Some are basically just advertising or forced into popularity. The latter become mainstream too because people aren't critical enough

[covert linden]

When I get vr tmr I can pet lolis so im happy

[stone current]

and me

[covert linden]

Okay just a bit

[stiff osprey]

I have a boxer, ouch mouse, and saint bernard

[tacit plank]

You can even lick lolis

2/3 run away, 1/3 lick you back. It's an interesting game

[covert linden]

IM GONNA LICK MANY LOLIS

[stiff osprey]

tooo bad images aren't aloud

[stone current]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fWLMHkmwZZI

[tacit plank]

Allowed* And they are in #general-media

[stiff osprey]

whoops, wrong word lmao

[covert linden]

Omg "aloud" xp

[tacit plank]

It happens

[stiff osprey]

yeah, the children sang aloud 😉

10/10 fits fine

[stone current]

the children sang the ali a theme song

[tacit plank]

I wanna try Apex

I really hope this launcher won't give my computer aids

[stiff osprey]

o no not ali a

• ear rapes*

ear rapes

[tacit plank]

I don't speak 12-year-old

[stiff osprey]

So you don't speak 18-year-old

[dark narwhal]

I dont speak Russian

[stiff osprey]

I only speak 1% of my full power

[tacit plank]

What's an ali a, and why would encountering one cause you to penetrate ears without consent?

[dark narwhal]

👀

[stiff osprey]

I was not talking to you, wunder said it

[covert linden]

They do speak 18 year old cuz im 18

[stiff osprey]

O man

[tacit plank]

Huh, so he did

[dark narwhal]

Nuuu she said she was 13

[covert linden]

And a guy as my name clearly states

If I said I was 13 jake youd run for the hills

[stiff osprey]

it's the real male ashley

[covert linden]

Dont call me ashley thats not my name

[dark narwhal]

Maybe

[stiff osprey]

Okay, so what pokemon do you have as a starter

[covert linden]

Its not named after pokemon either

[dark narwhal]

Hehehhe

[stiff osprey]

or did my grandma die?

[tacit plank]

Why does Origin have a cookie policy, it's not a web browser

[stiff osprey]

then got burned into you

[covert linden]

Its named after a male character in a book who killed off people for his family lol

[stiff osprey]

lotta ashes

[covert linden]

Its also my name for my animations

[dark narwhal]

Dont kill me i just wanna play vrc

[covert linden]

Rea doesnt sound as nice

[elfin cloak]

i can't rename friend group's
it always revert to default

[covert linden]

Ohno

[tacit plank]

At most 16 characters for my password. Piss off Origin, now I won't be quantum-safe

[wintry leaf]

Hi

[tacit plank]

"Your EA security code is 456789"
Yeah, I'm feel very secure...
And hi

[wintry leaf]

i playing vrchat 12 hour later

[cursive skiff]

I got 5 rubs tonight!

[stuck orbit]

wow xd

How many you have?

[cursive skiff]

In total?

[stuck orbit]

yes

[cursive skiff]

Fuck if I know, probably over 50-60

[stuck orbit]

I have 19K

What kind of content are you making?

[covert linden]

[tacit plank]

Rubs?

[steep turret]

oof. that was a well deserved nap

[cursive skiff]

@stuck orbit LOL Im just doing it for fun I dont do videos

I mean like literal horn rubs in game

WHen im playing lol not subs or some shit

[stuck orbit]

OH lol,

[rancid vessel]

How do i find the current output log?

Someone was in the Uganda world spawning trees while i was there.

[queen mango]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[queen mango]

But wait, I thought the map went kablut?

[cursive skiff]

@tacit plank I ask people to rub my horns!

On my avatar

[vocal shard]

how do you make your world public?

#public-world-request

[honest depot]

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/menu-customizations

[zinc solar]

How you loners doing tonight?

[vocal shard]

👌

[queen mango]

In school.. doing a lecture

[stone current]

wuf

[covert linden]

Cloaked ur the lonely one

Im playing vrc wirh all my friends tomorrow its not lonely at all

[hollow umbra]

Sounds lonely today if all your friends aren’t playing

[covert linden]

No today I spent the day with my bf

[hollow umbra]

Ok

[rigid crescent]

dont take the b8 m8

[hollow umbra]

VRchat is a sausage fest and I love sausage

[dim aurora]

anyone else vrchat loading slow

[cold talon]

Nah, it's always like that

Ha ha get it, I'm responding 3h later, ha

[hasty wedge]

[cosmic belfry]

how do I set VR High or VR Low in VRChat?

I dont see the option in settings

[twin jacinth]

Hold shift while lauching the game i believe

[gaunt scaffold]

i hope vrchat gets a anti cheat or some shit

[cosmic belfry]

y

[gaunt scaffold]

bcs all the kids with their modded clients make me feel like i am playing dayz

[cosmic belfry]

modded in what way

[queen mango]

Disconnection clients, avatar snatchers, logout clients

[gaunt scaffold]

i guess thats why VRC is looking for a Security Engineer but id guess that a Security Engineer is more of a fixer for exploits like the web panel one that happend once

[cosmic belfry]

It does kinda suck when some guy intentionally brings in something super un-optomized and malicious to purposely crash people

[queen mango]

It usually does. You got crashed as well?

[cosmic belfry]

well recently in the Presentation room

one of those dudes who just spam nonstop emojis everywhere

bombed the room

effects emojis loud music

[queen mango]

Huh.. that's probably a result of a poor Internet connection, or low specs in your end @vocal shard

[cosmic belfry]

sometimes turning off nameplates in UI settings can add a few fps

[queen mango]

@cosmic belfry The new timestamped output log should help you with your case if you are to send it over to [e-mail]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

[cosmic belfry]

what you mean that guy spamming the emotes

didnt catch a name

[queen mango]

@cosmic belfry Oof.. that's gonna be a hard time tracking down.

Umm, incase you didn't know.. those emojis are in honor of certain individuals who have contributed to VRChat one way or another

[mental shuttle]

Does anyone know how to change the button inputs for Playspace Mover on Oculus? the only change that was listed in the Readme didn't remove the button input, only added a second one

Please @ me

[hasty wedge]

u could put 2 for b/y

witchcraft

[mental shuttle]

nani

why at me if you're just saying you dont know? but ok...

@hasty wedge what do you mean exactly? I'd like A to be the input for moving, and it is but B is also the input as well now

I wont use it unless I can solve this

[hasty wedge]

wut r u trying to do

[cursive skiff]

Don’t understand why you gotta mod your clients tbh

I guess for features that are not in vrchat?

Or for bypassing something or fucking with something more or less would be my assumption

[floral aspen]

mostly for fucking with people and bypassing security

[true sky]

^

basically people abusing exploits in the game and spreading it like wildfire mostly to cause chaos

[stoic halo]

people also do it to rip avatars from people.

[true sky]

mhm

also annoying for people who do commission avatars.

[covert linden]

guys today is the day I get to pet lolis

[true sky]

dont get near loli police 🤷

[covert linden]

But theyre the cutest

[floral aspen]

the lolice ain't nothing to fuck with

[cursive skiff]

Rubs? Please!? I need them touchies!

Haven’t been able to be a skank for a week! A whole damned week!

[heavy dawn]

nya nya, dats da sound of da lolice~

🚨

[vocal shard]

halt

[idle hedge]

[cursive skiff]

...

@heavy dawn I smell furry

[modern sand]

#general-media thx

[heavy dawn]

You do not! I shower!

[proud patrol]

@heavy dawn whoop whoop

[covert linden]

Aa i finished my vr ready avatar

One od my emotes is aa sneeze face

So I can ssneeze on people

[heavy dawn]

haha amazing. You fantastic werido, you.

[covert linden]

AA THANK YOU

[vocal shard]

my vrchat isnt working correctly

my oculus stays in the oculus white home thing

i can hear vrchat and its tracking my headset but i cant see anything in my oculus

aaaand its fixed

[heavy dawn]

Was it low framerate?

I don't know if Occulus does it but Vive just cuts right out to grey if the framerate is too low.

[royal vigil]

Oog

[heavy dawn]

oog vorbis, the OTHER OSS compression technique

[royal vigil]

That means oof but yeah

[heavy dawn]

hehe I figured. I'm just silly.

[mental shuttle]

@hasty wedge I told you ._.

I want to make the A button on Oculus only button that moves me with Playspace mover. if anyone know how to do this, please lemme know T.T I wont use it until this is possible

[true sky]

There is a user in the Uganda world talking about self harm and people are laughing asking her because of it.

[heavy dawn]

Le yikes... That's not okay.

[long venture]

@mental shuttle on the playspace mover website
theres a tutorial below that shows you how to rebind buttons

[mental shuttle]

@long venture thank you. I’ll try to find it. X3

[vocal shard]

Are servers down? #world-development can't upload builds

[stoic halo]

i have become attached to my model alot.

having 4 different versions with different outfits.

[vocal shard]

Yeah

[heavy dawn]

@stoic halo That good feeling you get inside from seeing a VR world from your fave model

[steep turret]

that's like me with my main one

[heavy dawn]

https://i.imgur.com/oRNVTJn.png

Hehe... my habit of making low-poly models using vertex colours is working against me here.

I'll have to remember to run Cream The Rabit through CATS later.

The edge flow on that model is awful. Made it when I was learning but it still looks pretty cool 😄

[earnest fox]

Yo

Does anyone know any good avatar worlds?

[vocal shard]

are we ever gonna get changing microphones back?

[rough pulsar]

Eventually. It's not a problem vrchat can fix as it's an issue with Unity itself.

[floral aspen]

^

[livid peak]

Vrchat keeps logging me out without permission I don’t know what’s going on

[brittle depot]

is it when you start up the game

[cursive skiff]

You know, I never understood the whole “vr gets you very sick and motion sickness etc etc.” or “oh the fov is super narrow and you can’t see to the left and right without moving your head” after two days with a headset all that stuff went away fast. I just think folks don’t wanna accept the new technology

[hardy seal]

my little cousin got violently ill when he tried my psvr for the first time

and i myself felt a little woozy after playing serious sam

[opaque hawk]

It really just depends from person to person

[brittle depot]

is it me or have vrchat been acting weird lately because when I log in I been have some problems

[ruby needle]

One very important thing is that you dont push your self.

If you feel ill / dizzy stop

dont push your self trying to "learn not to"

cus its actualyl the opposit of what happens

[cursive skiff]

I felt disoriented and dizzy yeah, I almost did heave but I stoped so you@know, I knew I wouldent puke.

[ruby needle]

you brain will associate the illness with the HMD and its getting way worse to get rid of

[cursive skiff]

But after two days it’s been 1-2months now? I’m used to vr and it’s great

One thing I ain’t used to is the low frames though, that’s still jarring

[opaque hawk]

It took me a week or two to get used to it. I bought ginger beer to help deal with the sickness

[ruby needle]

Bigger lobbies with low framerate are definitely not a good start into VR

[livid peak]

Well when log in vrchat force logging out on my account after a couple of minutes it was fine last night because I hung out with my boyfriend who lives 17 hours from me on Valentine’s Day it just started this

[brittle depot]

wow it started for me yesterday and the day before and today

[earnest fox]

Holy, i started playing this game today and i love it. I can acctualy talk to people

[cursive skiff]

Lol yeah, it’s fun! Even more fun to fuck with people!

[queen mango]

With VR, you can interact with them

Many ways, like headpats, hand gestures, body language, sign language.. lots of opportunities to express yourself

[stiff osprey]

like man

what's up

[whole edge]

how long do i stay as a nuisance ?

[queen mango]

Oof.. what did you do to get that?

[icy plinth]

I haven't played it before 😣 I wanna though, I'll play it sometime I just can't download it atm

[carmine dew]

ill keep playing once they fix it honestly

cause boy oh boy is it broken

[inner cape]

see you in a few years then

[carmine dew]

honestly yeah

fix the game? no lets add seats onto models

at this point with the game im just dissapointed honestly

unless like another big meme surge happens like the knuckles then idk what would help at this point

[vocal shard]

Well.. all platforms and games and more have problems.. it's the community that makes this app and the same that can easily poison it.. all this third party client business is down to idiocy really.. created for the sole purpose to destroy the community and thus drive people away.. I will never leave this community no matter what.. and it's the same for most of us who create content here, we know it's going downhill but we have seen this time and time again.. it's not new, and in the future it will be different.

[rough flax]

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

STOP YELLING

[elfin cloak]

?

me?

no i'm not

and you?

[vocal shard]

I've never seen that warning apart from What you just posted so you just added to the cancer

It's been posted removed many times. It's just a phishing scam.

[subtle prawn]

gg

[elfin cloak]

omg not that again
alright then i will remove that shit
excuse me on my speach

[vocal shard]

Yes.. it's one of them hoax and annoying messages going around.. don't fall prey to fake bullshit

Well, it is possible. But it's nothing new for steam

[elfin cloak]

ok ty

[vocal shard]

I've never in my life got anything other than relative news from steam.. been with them since the start and I've never even received a fake message off a random.. my best advice would be keep your friends list short and sweet.. and only join groups that have people in them with as equal braincells as yourself.

Usually people get links from that through trade discussions

Ah yes trading.. well I have a very large lib with things I've collected, but never once traded.. I thought the whole collectors deal was stupid tbh

Had a couple attempts on me when i was a tf2 trader. Otherwise, nothing

Looks like it's a way to just get people to open up and share contact details in that case

[proud patrol]

am I allowed to post links in here?

[vocal shard]

If it's vrchat related or part of the conversation. Otherwise, random chat is better

[proud patrol]

k

[vocal shard]

Depends on the links as well

[proud patrol]

tbh I just wanna post an album of selfies I've taken in VRC, but no, no you're right, not everyone can handle the cuteness that I've seen!

[vocal shard]

Oh? If it's vrchat selfie pictures, you can post them in #vrchat-pictures @proud patrol

[proud patrol]

how about that

this server does have a lot of channels

[vocal shard]

[clever shard]

https://tenor.com/view/tohru-dragonmaid-surprised-gif-11932540

tohru dislikes fish

https://tenor.com/view/tooru-anime-kawaii-gif-7589059

How to train your dragon maid

[upper fox]

the reveal of udon should be on par with the reveal of mario maker 2

[vocal shard]

Does anyone think a VR Chat room where people can live react to like a Nintendo Direct or E3 or some awards would go well?

[stoic halo]

just goto a theater that supports streaming

and do that

[vocal shard]

That's so boring though. What about an actual room designed for it.

[stoic halo]

what would be the point of that, its one time. use

[vocal shard]

Like, the rooms we have now are so fuckiiiing open in topics. Why not a room that is designated for the show that's going on?

[stoic halo]

its practically a waste of time

[vocal shard]

So is trying to find a general fucking topic in a giant theater room where people are screaming over each other with anime or some unfunny video playing.

[stoic halo]

make the instance yourself?

i mean its a pretty simple solution

[queen mango]

It will be very hard to point down the exact schedule when the stream will start.

[vocal shard]

And how are people going to know that's the topic going on?

It's not a simple solution, lol.

[stoic halo]

by you telling people in the server or friends?

you expect randoms to 100% comply?

lol

its really a problem that doesn't exist

[vocal shard]

I expect a room that says something along the lines of gathering to watch e3 or the direct at -time- would go pretty well since it's in the name and the room could showcase that.

How is it a problem lol. What is with this community's and hatred towards any idea that's somewhat creative or would serve a general topic.

[stoic halo]

and why have a dedicated world for that. would be a waste of time

[vocal shard]

A dedicated world to watching these presentations.

[stoic halo]

would be a waste of time

[umbral oracle]

Supah is interested in discoverability

[stoic halo]

with how spaced out and unoften they are.

its really easier to just goto a theater.

[vocal shard]

What's a waste of time is going into this community where people are screaming over each other or cliqued up and hoping to find a general subject you can get into because god forbid a room's topic would be listed in the name.

The theater's are fucking trash because they're so scrambled.

[stoic halo]

thats why you invite friends

[vocal shard]

Oh my God.

[stoic halo]

a simple fix to a simple problem

[umbral oracle]

Right but supah jd is asking a legitimate question: how do you advertise that you arr hosting an event to the greater interested vrchat population

[vocal shard]

Or you make friends with a room that you meet people into the same thing you are.

"Go into the public room and scream at people you're hosting it in bedtime theater"

Always fun.

[stoic halo]

you can't expect people to give a damn all the time lol

[vocal shard]

Or you have a room where people who would give a damn could see it and go to it.

[stoic halo]

majority of people wont give a damn about a live viewing of e3 or nintendo

[umbral oracle]

Take a look on the complexity that goes into organizing existing events: a special event discord, adding people, sending invites and organizing a time far in advance

And those events often have tens of people in them

[vocal shard]

How do you figure that?

"majority of people wont give a damn" What?

[umbral oracle]

You should be able to ad hoc make a room and if people are interested at that time they will join

[stoic halo]

go into a public world and advertise the event

[vocal shard]

This is a fucking nerd community with anime shits running around and Nintendo things. How is it off the rocker to believe they'd care about a nerd presentation.

[stoic halo]

see how many people will even care.

[umbral oracle]

But chances are people in that instance won't care. That's not how discoverability works leah

[stoic halo]

i know for one the groups im in wouldn't even listen

[vocal shard]

Yeah, I know. It would be so crazy to believe the general VR Chatter would be more interested in not pretending to be a girl or screaming dead memes at each other.

[civic plume]

I DID IT

[vocal shard]

I'm asking for VR Chat to have rooms that encoruage discoverability. It's wild, right.

[civic plume]

TUPPER PIN THIS

[stoic halo]

like im seeing here that you're complaining about a problem that is easily fixed by having friends and a discord server.

[civic plume]

MAKE AUDIO FILE THEN PUT IN UNITY SCENE TO PLAY ON WAKE BUT DONT PUT IT ON YOUR AVATAR, THEN UPLOAD AND WHENEVER YOUR UPLOADING WAITING IT PLAYS LIKE LOADING MUSIC!!!!

[vocal shard]

Oh my God. You know what's annoying me? Every time I bring up maybe we should have rooms that stay pin-0

Jesus Christ, we're just having a conversation.

[umbral oracle]

The best way to do this @vocal shard is make a new world designed for these types of events, complete with some artwork and a comfy theater setting. Then try and get some people to join the instance at the right time and advertise it

[vocal shard]

@umbral oracle Thank you.

[stoic halo]

and im saying its a waste of time to make a world for it

because of how little it'll be used

[umbral oracle]

Submit it a few days early so it is recently updated and get enough people to join at the right time so it shows on the active list maybe

[stoic halo]

its more efficient and less time consuming to make a friends instance of a theater

[vocal shard]

I know it's crazy but each time I dare suggestion that this game and it's community makes something like pinned worlds that would encoruage people to go who are interested in the topic and encoruage community engagement in a massive level while embracing the nerd culture is shut down and it's fucking annoying.

[umbral oracle]

But even then it's hard.

You're assuming supah jd knows everyone interested in this. The whole issue is finding people you don't know who have an intereestu

[vocal shard]

Maybe this game could be so much more if the community acted like social community aka a forum and have these topics so people can find other people who are interested in the topic without going to a room and hoping they can get a word in with the snorting cliques just around it.

[stoic halo]

the discord server is here.

you have friends.

[umbral oracle]

For example joining public instances of newly released worlds is a good wya to find people interested in world hopping

[vocal shard]

The point was finding more people and getting general reactions to shit like reveals and such like that.

[umbral oracle]

Yeah that would be awesome

[vocal shard]

It really would be.

[stoic halo]

then go ask people in worlds

its not that hard.

[vocal shard]

Why the fuck are you suggesting something so dull?

I don't want to go to fucking already exisisting bed time theater to watch shit with nerds and hope it has the same vibe.

[stoic halo]

why are you trying to overcomplicate something so simple

lol.

[unborn cobalt]

hello :d

[vocal shard]

Oh no. I'm asking to make themed rooms for people interested in a topic.

Not all of us are fucking dull. Do you think games like IMVU and Second Life survived because "oh just keep open worlds"

[umbral oracle]

@civic plume haha someone did the same thing for unity compiles: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unity3D/comments/an2hqn/ive_made_an_elevator_music_plugin_which_plays/

[stoic halo]

and themed rooms is a waste of time for the most part

[vocal shard]

Imagine if you go to forums and you only get "general discussion" and hope you can get your topic brought up in the wave of people just spamming shit.

That's VR Chat.

[umbral oracle]

Yes but they make sense when there is an organized event or gathering

[stoic halo]

why make a theater specifically for e3 and Nintendo

to be used like 3 times a year.

[vocal shard]

I'm talking any presentation of that sort. Not just E3 or a Nintendo Direct. There's multiple awards and themes to go off of.

[stoic halo]

and you could just use theaters for that

ones that already exist

[vocal shard]

You think very boringly.

[stoic halo]

instead of making a world specifically only for that

[vocal shard]

Blatantly put.

[umbral oracle]

And the point is to make a natural meeting point: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focal_point_(game_theory) <-- a good read that explains lots of human nature

[stoic halo]

im thinking about how it's a waste of time.

[civic plume]

@umbral oracle I FEEL SO GOD DAMN SMART. NOW I DONT HAVE TO BE BORED WAITING FOR UPLOADS ANYMORE

YOU CAN EVEN DO IT WITH W O R L D S !

[vocal shard]

It's really not. What's a waste of time is playing this game and going through the masses of cliques who aren't comfortable being social and saying "hey come join this" yelling at them to hope they join.

[civic plume]

[umbral oracle]

Never spend more time worrying about wasting time than you would actually be wasting

[stoic halo]

supah that is a problem on your end

that you have troubles joining grouos

[vocal shard]

Or we could have a room that just blatantly says "hey man, if you like the e3 presentation, come join this room and celebrate with other nerds."

[unborn cobalt]

I'm just going to butt in for a second here um.....Theres something i want to try but dont know how to do and I am hoping you people would know :d

[civic plume]

@vocal shard thats a personal problem buddy

[stoic halo]

i joined my groups by literally just walking up and talking to them

its not that hard

[umbral oracle]

Why? You don't have any interests at all? It's natural and a good idea to look for people who share similar interests as you as a way to meet others and engage in meaningful discussion, as fun as random rp in the pug is

[vocal shard]

Yes, because the VR Chat community reputation with people inside it or outside of it is how good and easy going the community is.

[umbral oracle]

Sorry my message was a bit rude. But everyone has interests including you

[stoic halo]

and you're assuming everyone is nazistic clan that wont include anyone outside

[umbral oracle]

What's wrong with exploring ways to find people who share them

[stoic halo]

its a simple fix

[vocal shard]

It's not rude at all. To call something boring because someone wants to make an organized room which VR Chat very much needs is fucking wild.

"go use bedtime theater for the e3 showcase lol!"

[rigid crescent]

Well yeah, that's what everyone I know did LOL

[stoic halo]

its less time consuming than building a world that will be rarely used for it

[vocal shard]

That's so dull.

[umbral oracle]

The issue isn't that. It's unlikely a random person will be interested in what you are interested in at a specific point in time

[vocal shard]

So your entire concern is the time spent that you aren't even spending building it.

[rigid crescent]

It's dull to get together with friends to watch the E3 presentation? That's a stupid way to think lol

[vocal shard]

In a fucking room like bedtime theater? Yeah.

[rigid crescent]

How?

[vocal shard]

I want something that the room is made for that kind of shit. A giant screen. With a bunch of things hyping up the event around it.

[umbral oracle]

But if you expose yourself as being available and interested in X (hanging out alone in a themed public world does this) then someone else might see you there and say hi

[rigid crescent]

It's a room that plays video,s wha't the issue?

[vocal shard]

Which can easily be changed out for that specific event.

[stoic halo]

lol im talking about how it would be a waste of time spent on a world that could have been better used

[queen mango]

Like, a theater world?

[rigid crescent]

No one cares about that

[vocal shard]

Yeah, exactly. A theater world that changes to have things fit to that certain event.

I care about that. My real life friends who care about design care about that.

[umbral oracle]

An "event world" if you will

[stoic halo]

then care about it

[vocal shard]

Exactly.

[queen mango]

Hmm.. but wouldn't it require manual updating on that part?

[stoic halo]

because i definitely dont.

[vocal shard]

Yeah, it would. Which is what me and a bunch of people would work on.

[umbral oracle]

The trick is getting it updated and approved to be in recently updated at exactly the optimal time

So people can find it

[vocal shard]

I mean, you could update it a few days before.

Or even weeks before.

[rigid crescent]

No one cares about that, or else we'd have it

[stoic halo]

right lmao

[umbral oracle]

We do have it: the events discord

[vocal shard]

"No one cares about that". People are barely caring about VR Chat nowadays, if you really want to hit with low blows.

[stoic halo]

we care about vrchat

[umbral oracle]

But the set of events is limited

[vocal shard]

Gaia Online which is fucking sinking has more active users on it and guess what Gaia Online has.

[rigid crescent]

What? The game has been consistently growing since the dip

[stoic halo]

just not useless worlds like that.

lol.

[vocal shard]

"useless worlds" oh boy the pug is so fun.

[rigid crescent]

Gaia Online has been up for how long? with how much commercial advertisements?

[umbral oracle]

We all care passionately, else we wouldn't be wasting time on discord

[stoic halo]

The Pug is where i met all my friends

[vocal shard]

Gaia hasn't been advertised for years.

[rigid crescent]

Stop comparing two totally different things

[stoic halo]

i say its pretty useful

[unborn cobalt]

If I wanted to Use the Dead AF site Omegle but in Vrchat in means of Omegle using My Rifts mic and headphones but the camera being the third person stream camera through a OBS capture and a third party app that will be the screen camera for omegle how can i specifically setup the camera to face towards me in one spot not following me when i move and have OBS only capture that and let me still se through my avatar?

[vocal shard]

The Pug is fucking boring. This game is fucking boring because it's five worlds that everyone goes to.

[queen mango]

You can hold a weekly stream video if your event suggestion gets approved.

[rigid crescent]

Except you're wrong

[vocal shard]

Except I'm not.

[stoic halo]

Then stop playing if vrchat is so boring?

[rigid crescent]

You are, otherwise those maps wouldn't be popular

[stoic halo]

right

[vocal shard]

...I just said all five.

Since they're used every fucking day, of course they're popular.

[stoic halo]

If the game was boring nobody would be playing

[vocal shard]

They don't die because it's all anyone goes to.

[stoic halo]

and theyre good maps that have people to meet

and making them fun for the fact thats what the pug is about

[vocal shard]

I love doing the same shit over and over again that can pretty much be emulated in reality.

[rigid crescent]

Bedroom, Oknuj, Presentation, Pug, Box, Silent, Alco-HQ, and those are the ones I see full off the top of my head

[stoic halo]

its a meeting grounds.

then stop playing vrchat??

[vocal shard]

Leah, you are truly shit with this advice.

[stoic halo]

you can watch e3 in real life

[vocal shard]

"yeah go play in real life, get off the game i supposedly like because you have ideas."

[queen mango]

But, he wants to watch it in VRChat, with VRChat friends.

[stoic halo]

your ideas aren't better if nobody really cares.

[vocal shard]

Fucking wack. I'm arguing with someone though who doesn't share the same perspective which is: focal points. Which is basically human nature and shown to be successful in forums and ... just social activity for years.

[stoic halo]

if people cared about the event world, people would have made it

[umbral oracle]

Please you don't have to be so personal with each other, nothing wrong with different ways of looking at vrchat

[stoic halo]

its a simple concept

[vocal shard]

We wouldn't know if someone did make it since the community is trapped in the same maps each day because change would be boring.

[stoic halo]

that "nobody cares enough about it to do it"

[vocal shard]

How do you know someone didn't make it?

[rigid crescent]

What are you talking about? No one is trapped.

[stoic halo]

um

[rigid crescent]

Why would I care about an "E3 map" over bedroom theater?

[stoic halo]

people find worlds all the time

[umbral oracle]

Vrchat is a lot of different things to different people: an escape, dating, chat, game playing, movie watching, sleeping/chill, event meetups

[rigid crescent]

THe goal is to watch the video, period.

[vocal shard]

I'm arguing with two people who are more fine with doing the same shit over and over again. Very exciting, lmao.

[stoic halo]

because its fun for us and we have groups because we dont have negative outlooks on the community

[vocal shard]

"Why would I want to go to the fun event place when I can just stay in this roooooom."

[rigid crescent]

Why would I want these big fancy banners, these statues of game charactesr, whatever the fuck, w hen my goal is a stream

[vocal shard]

So much fun, lmao.

[umbral oracle]

You're both disagreeing because you both use vrchat differently. There's no point trying to prove the other right

[stoic halo]

right Mic

[vocal shard]

Because it's a fucking game with a background and aesthetic.

[stoic halo]

exactly what km saying

[rigid crescent]

How is your "event world" with banners or whatever the fuck fun? Can you explain what about it is fun?

[vocal shard]

That's basically just going to Twitch. How much fun is that.

[tidal aspen]

how DARE someone enjoy this game differently than I do

[rigid crescent]

It's like watching TV with friends, I've done that plenty and it's fun.

[vocal shard]

I'm looking for someone to enjoy the shit since the entire point of the game is going to VR Worlds.

[stoic halo]

then go find people

[umbral oracle]

I suggested a themed world as a meeting place, nothing more, nothing less

[queen mango]

Alright, could you three stop it with this? This chat wasn't going anywhere

[vocal shard]

If you don't like the shit around it then I'm blatanlty going to say you're fucking weird.

[stoic halo]

instead of spending hours on making a world for it lol

[vocal shard]

No, it's going some where. But the fucking stupidity in the response back is actually mind boggling.

[rigid crescent]

If I go to a friend's house to watch TV I'm not admiring their TV stand

[stoic halo]

not my fault you think the game is boring.

[umbral oracle]

For example, The box is a meeting place for a specific vrchat subculture

[vocal shard]

So, let me get this straight. "Why have a creative world in a game where the entire point is exploring worlds or that's the advertisment when I can just go to the same world and borderline twitch it? Who cares about worlds?"

[rigid crescent]

if I go to Johnny Apple's house to watch the football game I'm not like "WHOA YOUR WALLPAPER IS FUCKING LIT"

[stoic halo]

a creative world that has been done already by other people with the same use

[vocal shard]

And I enjoy going to a sports bar to watch sports. Because the envoriment is more fun.

[stoic halo]

so original and creative

[umbral oracle]

@vocal shard sometimes thats what you want to do. Nothing wrong with that

[vocal shard]

Where are they at?

[rigid crescent]

So friends who want to sit at home with friend and watch the game are boring?

[vocal shard]

Oh, they don't exist.

[stoic halo]

Bedroom Theater.

[tidal aspen]

are you really getting upset at how OTHER people spend their time?

[rigid crescent]

Or weird?

[vocal shard]

Yeah, it's much more boring than going to a Dave And Busters. It's completely fine you'd rather do that but acting like places that cater to these topics and getting people in the same subject matter don't exist and don't succed is wrong and factually stupid.

[queen mango]

Man, this argument wouldn't have happened had you two just kept to your own businesses.

[stoic halo]

i know id still choose bedroom over that game world lol

[umbral oracle]

And some days you will feel like shit and walk to the sports bar anyway but realize you are staring off into space instead of watching sports because for some reason that day you just can't get yourself to care. That's part of life too

[vocal shard]

Yeah, it really would have. But they're right because "i dont like that"

They have no argument and life itself has shown their logic is just blatantly incorrect.

[stoic halo]

i mean your entire premise on the world is Cliques and the game being boring

[queen mango]

Supah just wants to watch live videos with his VRChat friends. There's no need to get angsty over that

[vocal shard]

Discord shouldn't have multiple servers. It should just have "discord bar" "discord bathroom" "discord bed time lol"

[rigid crescent]

The argument is "no one cares because the scenery isn't what people look for when they want to watch a stream"

[vocal shard]

I'm sure we would be having the same conversation.

[queen mango]

Yea..

[stoic halo]

i goto bedroom because it is easy on my eyes.

not for the scenery.

[vocal shard]

No, the argument was me saying "man, it sure would be cool to have rooms dedicated to these things to encourage people interested in the topic to go and talk about said topic and watch it together"

[rigid crescent]

And no Elire, you're obviously not paying attention. He's upset at how people spend their time and that no one wants a variant of a map for the scenery when the goal is to watch a video.

[vocal shard]

No, you just chimed in an argument that you were late in because you're notoriously into just arguing with people.

[rigid crescent]

ok

[vocal shard]

Yeah. Moving the fuck on.

[stoic halo]

i mean you complain about Cliques

[vocal shard]

To the people who were supportive with the idea.

[rigid crescent]

Yeah just stop playing if you dislike it so mcuh, or make your world and let it bomb

[stoic halo]

because you fail to find a group

[rigid crescent]

Friends groups = bad lol

[vocal shard]

Or you two could just move the fuck on because you can't handle a discussion or other ideas because you were blatantly wrong.

[stoic halo]

were wrong for not giving a damn about a game theatrr

[queen mango]

Sigh...
This conversation was going well with just Leah, Supah, and Lyuma.

[rigid crescent]

Nothing is wrong about the fact t hat people don't care because their goal is to watch a video.

[vocal shard]

"No one cares about going to places dedicated to a topic" = Buffalo Wild Wings Sports Nights = Exsists.

[stoic halo]

huh.

this js vrchat not irl.

[vocal shard]

No, because Mic Sounders had to chime in and make it something else, lol. Because he argues like an actual child.

[rigid crescent]

IRL and VRChat aren't the same thing.

[vocal shard]

Humans function the same way in social activity.

[rigid crescent]

No they don't. Not in a diverse social setting that merges IRL aspects with internet anonymity and convenience

[vocal shard]

"a diverse social setting" So, adding topics to help people go through the diversity and find people into the same subjects as them is absolutely bonkers. Why do that? It would make too much sense?

[umbral oracle]

The thing I have issue with is this "friends" bit. While it's great to have an event for friends, there might be a new player interested in joining who wouldn't have known about you

[vocal shard]

It would make people who go into VR Chat and just want to go into a room with a dedicated topic feel a bit more comfortable?

[umbral oracle]

So it's great to be able to have an event open to the public

[stoic halo]

because nobody will goto the world for e3 presentations

[vocal shard]

But they don't think about anyone else but themselves.

[stoic halo]

they'll do what they want with it

[vocal shard]

Leah, you have been on the same statement on repeat with nothing to back it up.

[stoic halo]

Like Bedroom and other theaters

[rigid crescent]

We already ahd that with the GDQ world. Everyone just watched it theaters, for the most part.

[umbral oracle]

People go to twitch to watch their favorite streamer watch e3 and commentate

[vocal shard]

Not when you have people there administrating that.

[stoic halo]

You have been too lmao.

[vocal shard]

@umbral oracle Bam.

[umbral oracle]

So there is definitely an interest in sharing these experiences

[vocal shard]

But why have twitch users when we can just have "twich bedtime tv"

[lunar shell]

🍿

[rigid crescent]

THere were maps for events like this and they had, at most, a few people.

[vocal shard]

And that's more than fine with me.

[stoic halo]

yes so why make a world for it when people will literally use it for the same thing as Bedroom

you'll go in and bitch about the same thing of other theaters

[vocal shard]

I'd rather have a few people who are going to be dedicated and use that room when the event is around to be able to be hype for things and have fun with it.

[stoic halo]

because people arent restrained to topics

[vocal shard]

No, not unless there's n event going on.

[umbral oracle]

A few random people each week plus your friends. Sounds like the start of a nicely growing community to me

[vocal shard]

If there's an event going on and the entire point of that day is to watch that event and people are trying to interrupt it, then yes. That's going to be a problem.

Outside of that, use it for what you want.

[stoic halo]

and you know how you set that up

[rigid crescent]

Well that's been a thing we've had and people didn't use it

[stoic halo]

through Discord and your friends

[vocal shard]

Or you can just have a themed room.

And I'll see that for myself.

[rigid crescent]

outside of friend groups making their own rooms

[stoic halo]

a themed room nobody will use or care about

because other theaters exist.

[vocal shard]

And like I said, we'll see about that.

[stoic halo]

that do the exact same thing

how will randoms know the event is goin on

[umbral oracle]

That's true, you need more than the room , you need to be actively committed to growing the community and organized

[vocal shard]

You're not changing my mind on this besides making the VR Chat average community seem boring.

Because the entire name of the room would be dedicated to the topic at hand.

[stoic halo]

How will randoms know the event is going on

[tidal aspen]

literaly
just make it yourself 4Head

[stoic halo]

when theyre in bedroom or on twitch

[vocal shard]

....What the fuck?

[stoic halo]

watching what you are

[vocal shard]

What the fuck are you trying to say here?

[stoic halo]

that nobody will give a shit.

[rigid crescent]

That people won't use it, because past experience shows that it won't be used for that purpose.

[stoic halo]

because other places do exactly what that world will

[umbral oracle]

And advertising stuff on vrchat is hard. Before I was instructed to read the pinned messages in events, I didn't even know how to join vrchat community events or what was running exactly

[vocal shard]

"Confrence Room - E3! 11 PM EST" as the room name would pretty much serve the point.

[rigid crescent]

Most likely what will happen is people making friends+ or invite+ versions of your room to use

[stoic halo]

And guess how often it would be used for that.

Not alot.

[rigid crescent]

That's how AGDQ went, that's how SGDQ went

[stoic halo]

and yes Mic that

[vocal shard]

As long as it's used on that day for that event and I can watch VR nerds celebrate that topic on that day, I'd be happy with it.

[rigid crescent]

one of the mods here had a AGDQ room and a friend had an SGDQ room ,that was what those rooms turned into.

[queen mango]

Well, if you're gonna setup an event like that, you could set the initial meetup world as "Public" so randoms can join in, and then as "Friends+" later on so guests of friends can join in if they log out or get disconnected @vocal shard

[umbral oracle]

Twitch has things sorted by game such that it makes stuff very discoverable. At least for me that feature was really helpful when I was new to twitch

[vocal shard]

@ellire

[queen mango]

Hmm?

[vocal shard]

Exactly.

[umbral oracle]

And that also allows for stuff like streaming e3 and getting watchers

[stoic halo]

thats Twitch

[vocal shard]

It really does. There's so many facts that should point that it would work and should work.

[stoic halo]

a platform meant for that

[rigid crescent]

But the idea that it'll be used for public, outside of you planning it (which you can do with any map) is pretty unlikely.

[stoic halo]

guess what Supah, it hasnt worked in the past.

[vocal shard]

They can do it with any map.

[rigid crescent]

It doesn't have to be bedroom theater if it's a planned event. IT could be any of the dozen viewing worlds

[vocal shard]

But they choose not to. Which is a shame.

[stoic halo]

So why make a map for it

[vocal shard]

And that's what I want to make a map for.

[stoic halo]

wasting your time on it for something that will end up like the other worlds

[vocal shard]

I want to have a theater room which people can use for what they want but during the event time comes around, the week before hand it would be updated for that event.

[umbral oracle]

I understand people have tried stuff before and failed. That is really hard and it will take a substantial commitment from you supah jd to get something off the ground

[vocal shard]

I'm putting in some. If it doesn't work out, I'll see myself out this community.

[stoic halo]

lol.

[rigid crescent]

if people don't use your world you'll quit playing? bet.

[vocal shard]

Outside of playing with my real life friends on here, I think the game is sloppy and the community is cliiquey as hell.

[umbral oracle]

That disproportional commitment is the nature of getting lazy people off their Seated Mode to get together

[stoic halo]

then stop playing

[vocal shard]

Leah, you're literally just here to argue. I'm ignoring you for a bit.

[stoic halo]

instead of complaining about friend groups you dont fit in with

[vocal shard]

You've been on repeat with nothing useful to say.

[stoic halo]

you literally keep complaining about the same shit

[rigid crescent]

Not much wrong with cliques outside of them being rude, some people like to play with just the friends they've made

[umbral oracle]

While that may be true, There's nothing else like vrchat or as diverse as vrchat in many respects

[queen mango]

@vocal shard I think you can suggest the event and map which you'll hold the event in the VRChat Events Discord.
If they approve it, they'll designate what time they'll hold that event.

[stoic halo]

lol

[vocal shard]

@umbral oracle Second Life but that got way too ERP for me.

[stoic halo]

ill keep repeating myself as much as you do

[rigid crescent]

but I've somehow had no issue making it into multiple different "cliques"

it's not hard, you might just be bad at maknig friends

[stoic halo]

right

[vocal shard]

Not really, Mic. I haven't really tried it because they're all loud or just focused on each other.

[stoic halo]

thats why you arent in any

[vocal shard]

I've made friends through death run.

[stoic halo]

you dont try. so stop complaining?...

[umbral oracle]

Anyway I am probably not interested in joining your event supah, but I support your ability to set up and try to organize things

[vocal shard]

Yeah, that's just an easy block. Moving on from the cunt.

@umbral oracle Thank you.

[stoic halo]

lol. fucking idiot.

[umbral oracle]

Guys don't hate. You both just have different opinions. That's fine

[stoic halo]

he cant take a simple solution to friend groups

[vocal shard]

"you don't like your experience. instead of asking why, i'll insult. that'll make you really take an open mind to my opinion"

-big thonk-

[stoic halo]

you literally just said you dont try

thats why you dont have friend groups lol

[umbral oracle]

Modern politics is too extreme sometimes fueled by text chat miscommunication. People need to be willing to sit down and hear other opinions and respect them

[vocal shard]

You really didn't even let me finish, lol.

[stoic halo]

a simple fix is to try

[rigid crescent]

you literally call people boring for not liking what you like

or being content hanging with friends

[vocal shard]

It's more so because it seems the same old thing. I go to the bar and it's a bunch of dudes pointing at some anime girl screaming or I never see anyone collectively together enough to do it. May be the worlds I'm in.

[umbral oracle]

Not everything works the same for everyone. There are some tricks to making oneself more amenable to adding friends but that's not for everyone

[stoic halo]

find other people. easy fix.

[vocal shard]

I literally do that all the time with my real life friends. I love them to death, more than my actual family. Yes, I've called them boring too.

Haven't had much luck with that in this game, honest to God. I usually do the games servers though which doesn't help.

[umbral oracle]

😃 what's easy for you leah isn't easy for everyone . Statistically that must be true, else everyone in vrchat would be on everyone else's friend list

[stoic halo]

if SUPAH cant make any friends is a problem on his end.

[vocal shard]

I'm more of a "I don't want to sit at someone's place to watch this sport event. I want to go to the bar that's holding something for this PPV" type guy which is my inital idea. VR Chat doesn't have that and I think it would be better with these topics.

[stoic halo]

that he needs to fix.

[vocal shard]

"can't make any friends" That was never what I said, lol. I said I had a hard time interacting with the average group on here.

[umbral oracle]

There's always a distribution and those of us who stuck around long enough to feel a passionate discussion on the discord probably are on the higher end of that distribution

[vocal shard]

I've always been better in forums with dedicated topics because I always hated just randomly barging in on people's groups or topics. It's obnoxious to me and I hate that unless I know I can take part in what's being said and move my way in from there.

[rigid crescent]

quitting because no one likes your map is just....

[stoic halo]

or instead of finding groups. find random singles and start a conversation

instead of relying on other groups

[vocal shard]

I have yet to see that, honest to God.

Actually, that's an entire lie. I have met people on there from doing that.

[queen mango]

So.. what was the map you want to make again? I'm interested

[vocal shard]

Honestly, the inital idea was a pretty decently sized theater. When there isn't anything coming up, it would have a set look. But on the times of the events, it would have a name change and start to decorate more to fit the event coming up.

[analog canopy]

[queen mango]

Hmm.. more chair rows, railings, different seat levels. Plus additional wall decorations. Those are usually the things I see in movie theaters

[vocal shard]

@stoic halo I apologize for calling you out on some shit. I just don't agree with the idea that "well, some have tried it" without fully even letting me get the idea even somewhat out there is a bit much and especially on repeat.

@queen mango Basically that, yeah. BUUUT, during the event time the name would change to let people know, hey the "Cool Town Theater" or whatever dumb ass name I would spark up nothing close to that with like 'E3 Event 2/16/ 12:00 EST" to let people know when to be there for the event and to react to such.

I don't know. I have this mental idea that being able to react to games being shown with other gamers in their avatars would be a fucking blast.

[queen mango]

Yes. That would be a fantastic idea

[rigid crescent]

People do that already is the thing. As I've said, we've had those worlds and they've failed to be anything more than a private meeting space, for the most part.

[vocal shard]

Using the event too of this discord would also help.

I have yet to see it. I have yet to even hear of it to the lengths I'm talking about.

[queen mango]

I think I seen this one be shown before.. Probably with GU, and The Mute List

[rigid crescent]

The idea is nice, the actual execution though isn't likely to get much.

[vocal shard]

It's worth a shot.

I wanted to do a few of these things. An actual sports bar to encourage people of that interest to come and HOPEFULLY be able to meet fellow sports fans. Are they forced to talk about it? Fuck no. But it'd be nice.

[queen mango]

A multiple camera setup works in case you wanna get multiple close-up shots of various audiences, but that can pose a bit of a problem for some computers

[rigid crescent]

You want a normal video world that, during events, becomes an event world. If an event world fails, there's no reason a normal video world would fare any better, especially when made by someone who, and I don't mean any offense by this, knows little to nothing of actual creation and what goes into it.

[queen mango]

But with a big theater like you suggested, I think it works best

[vocal shard]

No offense at all with that.

[rigid crescent]

They're not just used because it's "how it's always been"

Some of them are just really good maps.

[vocal shard]

Maybe I'm just not fit for the game, lol.

[rigid crescent]

It's why people use bedroom over random joe's video room

[vocal shard]

I wanted topics. I was hoping to come into VR Chat and see diversity and being able to go into rooms to find people with the same interest.

[rigid crescent]

some of these maps are a "how it's always been thing", like the box for example is a weird midpoint. It's just "the map" to use but that's partially because people believe it to be optimized and easy on their PC because it's "just a square"

when there's much more detailed and good looking maps that are better optimized

[stoic halo]

its mostly because of it's small download size

[rigid crescent]

So it takes more than just "here it is" to get a map out there

Oh that too, good for potato intertnet

but not as optimized as it could be. 90FPS in a mirror isn't as impossible as people seem to think it is

[vocal shard]

It just seems a bit dull to me. At least to me.

[stoic halo]

thats why i use it for my boyfriend because internet and its easy on my eues

[umbral oracle]

It is going to be about execution. I do like the idea of putting an event and time/date in the world title if it fits. I've never seen that before

[stoic halo]

compared to like Polyverse

easy to run but hurts my eyes

[queen mango]

Yea.. it's a new thing for me as well to hear about this.

[umbral oracle]

You can get 90fps with fully baked lighting. Realtime lights are going to struggle as they take 3x drawcalls if a mirror with enable pixel lights is turned on

[vocal shard]

If I can't do it, I might try to find someone who has done something close and try to collab with him. Just to see.

Like I said tho, I might just not be a good fit for the game.

[queen mango]

Ah, you'll get in through, eventually

[umbral oracle]

Collab would be smart if you can. Having someone around to pick up the slack or take the reins if you can't would keep the thing alive

More than any other experience, vrchat is quite literally what you make of it. (You need to not think of it as a game)

So it would be hard to say you are not a good fit