#vrchat-general-2
solid fiber
umbral oracle
😄 pats head
solid fiber
yaaaaay, thank you. head pat is good 
teal arrow
What's up gamers 😄
icy plinth
heyo
summer pasture
Does anyone here knows someone called Syxed?
stone current
steep turret
nah
thick steeple
:3
steep turret
🦈
vocal shard
listen i know imma get removed once i type this but tbh i hope yall hear me out on what im trying to say Okay listen i want you to hear me out on this, i understand having a client is against the rules but i only used it for protection. So many people are crashing me and logging me out. My account name is TYGA147... and i got banned for using a client. I just got vr and my friend was going through something i didn't have the time to get her discord. I completely understand if you don't unban me but i would greatly appreciate it. I apologize i deleted the client and everything in it all the modules and everything. Ill even send you the modules so maybe you can find a way to get rid of them. Please i spent 500 dollars just for this game ive been playing it for 7k hours so obviously i love it. Just hear me out okay if you dont unban me i completely understand but please i wanna get back on vrchat i miss my friends. VRCHAT was my escape from my shitty laugh took all my suicide thoughts away and help me rehabilitate back to life and become a better person.
floral aspen
typing that here will do literally nothing. They don't address moderation issues like bans in discord. If you really want them to see that, send it in an e-mail.
floral aspen
How long has it been since you sent the e-mail?
vocal shard
the most recent was a few minutes ago the other ones was like a week and half ago
floral aspen
huh, guess you're out of luck then
wispy nova
Why did you have a client?
floral aspen
doesn't matter why. Modified clients are a bannable offense, no matter the reason
vocal shard
listen im completly calm but it kinda gets to me how i barely use it and all the other people that world log out dont get banned all my friends are still using it today and still havnt got banned abnd i had it to protect my self from the poeple that did log me out
floral aspen
if they haven't gotten banned then report them
vocal shard
vrchat isnt safe at all anymore you "devs" ban the people that are on the lower side of the clients but dont ban the poeple that have been doing for a while
floral aspen
thats a little hyperbolic
tacit plank
Unless having a client protects you from being logged out yourself, your excuse doesn't hold
vocal shard
i know so many people that have one and been repoted a bunch of times and still have yet to be banned
yeah thats what it was for
if one of you add me ill show you the module i used
the only module i used
tacit plank
Having the client actually patches the exploit? Interesting
vocal shard
yeah i have an anti log out i made it my self
tacit plank
Or maybe it's made to not log out other users of it. Either way VRChat should use that information to stop it
And if you didn't use the client for anything bad, how the VRChat find out and ban you?
vocal shard
yeah this is what im saying i got reported by a lot of people for saying that i have client i was stupid for doing that but as i said i only have an anti log out
shy elm
People, who knows - does VRC support vulkan API?
vocal shard
i got banned for 4 months and i literally do nothing but protect my self
tacit plank
If what you're saying is actually true (it's a bit doubtful) you might actually have a good point.
That said, I doubt you will get unbanned. You will need to get a VPN if you want to log in again.
If you can code like you claim, that won't be a problem for you
It's 5:40am so I need to go now. Good luck
vocal shard
mhm i know but i shouldnt have to do that why would i lie i have no reason to you
okay nice talking to you
Well seya guys imma get off to i hope you guys see were im coming from and realize that im doing is right not wrong ill see yall later ive been hella down because vrchat was basically my life but its g if i dont get unbanned. Goodnight..
rigid crescent
I mean they only don't ban the problem people because they don't get caught. You got caught, tha'ts all
grand relic
Is it possible to move/adjust the fingers in vrchat w/ pc._. Or nah?
rigid crescent
You can, but they're at your side so you won't see it
grand relic
How?
rigid crescent
Press Shift F1 through like F6 I think
grand relic
Oh oki
vocal shard
You can activate actions on avatars using that
grand relic
OnO
steep turret
nice dad joke
modern sand
@vocal shard You can ask for a ban appeal at the moderation email, make sure to include as much proof to support your case and it might go through
grand relic
There a chat, or nah?
rigid crescent
Nope, only microphone
vocal shard
Hey Ruuubick's Cube, how's it hanging my man?
grand relic
Oki.
vocal shard
Aight, gonna leave me on read, aighty aight
steep turret
is that the real ruuubick. omg
vocal shard
yuH
uncut path
steep turret
anyways sylvia welcome to vrchat
vocal shard
yuh, you can use ya global emotes here and stuff Zitron
I can't live without this emote ^
grand relic
Also wuts best for vr headset: like a computer or pc? Cuz I have a pc(no computer box thingy). Or is there no difference?
grand relic
Quality wise. Cuz I did lag a bit when I was on vrchat earlier
vocal shard
I mean, you wanna ideally have a PC, othewise you can't play the game
steep turret
true
vocal shard
Like that's step 0
grand relic
Well yea.
steep turret
step -1
vocal shard
@modern sand I sent like 3 paragraphs and includes a few pictures if they need more of my client ill send it to them i have one module in it witch is the anti log out thats it but i got rid of out of my vrchat folder because yall said i wasnt alowed to have it so once i get unabanned if i do ill fully delete it sorry im complaining i jsut really miss the game and i cant play it no more by the time i get unbanned none of my friends are gonna be playing it..
modern sand
You'll have to wait until it's looked at, you should include all you have so that they don't ask you for it
vocal shard
okay
dawn harbor
can someone make me a ultra instinct peng avatar
dawn harbor
please
vocal shard
This is VRChat, I need you to say something different
vocal shard
Figure it out
grand relic
Magic
ember arch
Magic
dawn harbor
Magic
vocal shard
No
ember arch
dang
grand relic
XD
vocal shard
The magic word is: pay
Since I ain't doing shit for free
Nor is anyone else willing to put up with begging
grand relic
Skadaddle skadoodle
dawn harbor
do you know a world where you can find a peng avatar
vocal shard
Your dick is now a noodle
grand relic
👏🏻
sand ore
Is this thing about steam vrchat accounts getting compromised real?
vocal shard
I didn't hear anything about steam VRChat accounts specifically. I heard a rumour about a new steam phishing scam. But that it
cursive skiff
Hmm friend told me to do a no lewd challenge. Looked him square in the eyes and said “I’d fail that in 2 seconds! Hell nah Man!”
Probably belongs elsewhere but, oh well too late now!
winged igloo
Phishing is a constant threat that you should always be cautious of. As steam always says, never give your password to anyone. Double check that emails asking you to login are actually from legitimate sources and such
umbral oracle
The recent rumor is that just clicking specific steam urls can cause trouble, without even typing any information. So just be mindful of which links you click too, especially if they contain something about steam.
Haven't heard anything beyond the rumor so wouldn't worry too much about it, but nothing wrong with being careful
winged igloo
I'm not sure about the rumours, only seen them in passing. But for sure, you can never be too careful! 😄
vocal shard
hello
Hello again ^^
I wish could play this game, but my laptop only have 2 gb ram
and only 2.4 ghz vison amd
queen mango
Oof.. sounds like you may want to upgrade to a desktop PC
winged igloo
You can actually get some pretty good VR Capable PCs for not a ridiculous amount. If you don't need it to run VR and just run regular games it could be even cheaper!
vocal shard
idk where to buy the stuff from tho
queen mango
You can look around in either the Internet or PC stores for PC parts
heavy ledge
I'm having problems loading people's avatars like it will take a really long time to load other people and while it does it starts lagging like bad. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem?
winged igloo
If you have no idea what you're doing, you could buy a prebuilt machine, those are pretty easy to find
How's your internet otherwise?
vocal shard
my internet is fine I guess
winged igloo
Sorry, that last bit was directed at Pawpi
heavy ledge
I don't have very good internet speed
Can't really do much about it since the router is upstairs and my pc is downstairs. So i'm forced to use wifi
winged igloo
Could potentially just be your internet is having issues, that seems like the most likely explanation to me
vocal shard
hi, im new to vrchat, anyone want to be my friend? or what channel on this discord do i go?
winged igloo
You can find lots of people to be your friends, chat here, meet new people. Maybe even check out #community-servers-old and see if there are any community Discord servers that peak your interest! 😄
But welcome to VRChat! 😄
vocal shard
I really hope this game lag gets fixed soon, dunno why its happened but ever since the update the game freezes for like a second or two then carrys on for maybe 7 seconds all fine then does the same thing again
and doesnt stop :PP
clever mirage
At my 4 minute marker for playing VRChat my loading percent was at 0
Then I started browing on discord for about 6 more minutes and the percent had boosted up, dont know if thats a me problem or if that happens for other desktop users
mental turret
Anyone know where I can find a good General Grievous Avatar? I tried the one on vrcmods.com but wrong lightsabers
Im absolute shite at modeling so i cant really fix that myself either or make my own
vocal shard
anyone want to voice chat?
vocal shard
K welp vrchat is broken
gleaming wedge
is vrchat ded for everyone?
vocal shard
No but its giving the same laggy problem and some worlds arent loading anymore or avatars :PP
When isnt vrc broken 
well its never THIS broken
:PP
Idk if its my internet or vrc. I often take ages to load into worlds. Often my friendslist is empfy + Avatars aswell. Nothing shows. World tab doesnt show worlds and when it Does i cant join any bc it loads ages to even show me the join button
my whole Menu bugs out everytime I log on.
gleaming wedge
its vrc :/
just cleaned out my c drive last night and worlds are downloading at 50ish kbs
vocal shard
I clean it weekly 😭
I dunno.. its so bad with these bugs nowdays. Often ruin my mood when i have to restart 10 times till it works
robust sparrow
Cant even load the login site 
vocal shard
Just gotta hope it gets mended soon
scarlet flint
anyone know to fix VrChat sdk issue where it only has Clear cache and Player Prefs?
umbral reef
Use the right unity version
scarlet flint
but what if the model only works in a older unity version?
umbral reef
Then your misinformed as that's not how unity works
vocal shard
Yeah, VRChat updated to Unity 2017.4.15f1 recently so just download it here: https://unity3d.com/get-unity/download/archive
nd download the SDK again @scarlet flint
not too sure how to migrate avatars from the old unity version though so meh... just ask in #avatars-2-general maybe
heavy bridge
@vocal shard For 99% of avatars, unless you're using deprecated features (like the legacy Animation or VRC_KeyTrigger component) is to literally just re-upload.
vocal shard
Nice
vocal shard
@scarlet flint it helped me to delete all SDK files in the Folder and reimport the SDK 
weary matrix
neat jacinth
Nah, even cleaning cache doesn't help with VRChat.
My home is error world and I can't load any avatar, either mine or someone's else.
Sorry, this should be posted in #user-support-old I suppose
cursive skiff
Saw a video of people that were able to create physics on other avatars Its coming!
stone current
wat r u talking about
cursive skiff
Can finally smack them Ears! Oh, was a video where a guy could touch parts of other folk’s avatars and move them ie the breasts or ass
stone current
wtf r u takking about [2] that video is old
cursive skiff
LOL welp I knew that.
stone current
besides ppl use modded clients 2 do that or use some hacky collider workaround thats 2 buggy 2 use correctly
cursive skiff
Ohhh
stone current
cuz it looks super glitchy locally, gets stuck inside things, and keeps flinging u into space
cursive skiff
Well makes sense then, but should be base game cause urge to smack them ears rising
stone current
there already tutorials on doing it but honestly even tho modded client bad they still do it better
summer pasture
Do anyone know someone called SyXeD?
stone current
y
stone current
rip
cursive skiff
Rip
cursive skiff
I gotta hop on vrchat again. Chill with some folks got distracted with arma last night
stone current
the person using it needs actual hand colliders and they need specific dynamic bone setup thing
so its rlly not worth it sometimes
summer pasture
He manipulated my friend and made her rly depressed and i cannot tolerate that at all..
cursive skiff
Hmmm damn,
summer pasture
And i want to reason him so he doeant do the same to any one else
stone current
couldnt u just ask them then..?
summer pasture
I did
cursive skiff
Kek well, ima say this. Don’t trust people and until there is proof of this, manipulation is super vague so...
summer pasture
But she doesnt want to give the user
stone current
well that her problem ig
summer pasture
I can send u a screenshot of how he was..
stone current
u can report them but
cursive skiff
Oh man reminds me of trying to communicate with germans...
stone current
cursive skiff
Good times.
stone current
yea but the report button used 2 get bad ppl off discord
like there a difference between be rude and be evil
i don't get how any1 would be depressed over this
cursive skiff
^
stone current
sound like clingy ex literally just let go
cursive skiff
Basically trust me kid you don’t get fuck all with an ex just leave
cursive skiff
Even then, I got some fun times with mine cause She a skaaaaank
stone current
i a daaaawg
cursive skiff
Am a jester!
stone current
indigo fern
🍽
steep turret
who's a skank
umbral reef
Nasssii
tiny ginkgo
hey Occy
steep turret
I'm always chipper my guy. don't let my bland text fool you. i'm just at work. doing inspections on some equipment we have.
tiny ginkgo
That sounds lovely
steep turret
it's actually the most boring, tedious thing ever--but it's aight.
steep turret
boring stuff. hazardous equipment lockers, drawers with tablets, computer stuff, and eye wash stations.
tiny ginkgo
Sounds dangerous
steep turret
my job can be more on the dangerous side, if you wanna think about it like that. i've gotten used to it tho, lol
heavy dawn
Inspections? Interesting...
tiny ginkgo
You say it's boring but I mean, it sounds like you're out doing something fun. Instead of sitting on your butt all day you know?
heavy dawn
Hello today! I hope you all have a lovely day. Stay safe if you're out in that snow.
tiny ginkgo
Are you saying I should drive recklessly just because I'm in the sun? 
heavy dawn
@tiny ginkgo Definitely. Go buckwild! ❤
steep turret
the work is lame. but the people I work with make it enjoyable. and yeah nass pedal to the metal
heavy dawn
I sit on my butt all day. ^o^
tiny ginkgo
Me too
steep turret
hope your butts aren't sore
tiny ginkgo
It could use a massage tbh
steep turret
booty massage? classic
raven mulch
tiny ginkgo
Yeah right?
steep turret
just do some squats in the meantime
heavy dawn
I still don't gain any weight somehow. Except in my butt. haha
I guess I bike to work when it's not actively snowing.
steep turret
a good butt makes the world go round, so congrats
tiny ginkgo
A good butt and thicc thighs make my bike's wheels go around that's for sure
heavy dawn
Hah yeah... I think it might be all the biking but I definitely have leggg
tiny ginkgo
I eat eggs for breakfast and soup for dinner
steep turret
lmfao nice nass.
I would quote my boi space dandy but I forget the whole speech he has about ass
tiny ginkgo
Who's ya boi?
heavy dawn
I only watched the first few eps of that. it looked wild
languid beacon
Making my avatar ride a skateboard that appears whenever I move with the joystick. It works great in vr, but on desktop my body spins around like a tornado while head stays in place. Any idea why this happens? For desktop people only?
heavy dawn
@languid beacon I have to say, that's pretty badass and I like it.
Not the bug but the skateboard idea.
steep turret
idles do that with me too when I'm desktop. dunno why. probably has something to do with the animation itself
languid beacon
It’s a mixano animation but I’ve tweeked it a bit and didn’t notice anything weird
steep turret
hmm. might be a unity issue then. no clue my dude
languid beacon
Oof. Thanks though. I don’t wanna public it until it works for everyone
It works for desktop too just not for yourself you see yourself spinning but no one else does
heavy dawn
Oh weird
runic hound
Maybe I missed it, but has there been any news/updates regarding Udon? I can't find anything since June last year, and the Canny seems to be dead. Is it still going ahead?
languid beacon
The only thing I’ve heard is “This year”
runic hound
Oh. Well, that's something
steep turret
it'll get here when it gets here I guess
floral aspen
It's gotta come this year
languid beacon
runic hound
I hope so, it could really give vrc a new lease of life. I can think of a lot of things I'd like to do.
vocal shard
@runic hound 
runic hound
stamps feet but I want it now! 😅 Just kidding, I'm patient, just checking it wasn't dead
@vocal shard 🤗
vocal shard
Yeah, could really do without a "streamer/YouTuber" rank.
steep turret
that's a thing?
vocal shard
Rumour that it might come later... No idea
steep turret
that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, lol. don't those folks already got a huge chip on their shoulder for being steamers or whatever? the ones I've met always act better than everyone else.
runic hound
There is the VIP rank that was appearing randomly a while back
tiny ginkgo
Don't talk bad about streamers again, it's not a good discussion 
vocal shard
Yeah the vip rank was an old thing. The glitch was showing all the nameplate options that were disabled. VIP was used for some people like deadmou5
Don't the rank thing create a feeling of inferiority to the new user/user ?
runic hound
Hrmph, deadmau5 is more important than me? Well now I'm sad
vocal shard
tiny ginkgo
Hm maybe.. I don't feel like the people I meet care what rank I am
The true rank is in our hearts
vocal shard
That's true,
But well, i saw some people not talking to others because of their rank.
So i guess that's affecting the gameplay a little ?
tiny ginkgo
It does in a good way
If people are so uptight that they won't speak to me based on my rank, I would rather avoid them anyways. So it's a quality of life improvement.
vocal shard
Oh yeah you're right ^^
runic hound
May be just because they had voice disabled for those ranks in safety settings
vocal shard
Could be that also.
tiny ginkgo
And how would not having the rank system change new player's behaviour though?
I mean wouldn't new players do the above no matter the ranking system or not?
vocal shard
You're not wrong
tiny ginkgo
Well, new players.. More like idiots obviously
vocal shard
Some Visitors/New Users are nice though
steep turret
oh I wasn't talking bad. I could care less. about ranks and anything. just wish people wouldn't act like theyre better than people they don't know is all.
vocal shard
@steep turret Exactly what i wanted to say ^^"
Yeah that's the problem,
You're being labeled depending on your rank
steep turret
overheard some folks saying they just block purples for being purples, which I am apparently. didn't even know until recently lol
vocal shard
I used to be Trusted,
But apparently deleting Non Playing friends got me ranked down 😭
tiny ginkgo
That's so weird.. Weird behaviour
steep turret
that's odd
tiny ginkgo
I won't judge anyone until I have spoken to them
vocal shard
@tiny ginkgo Same as you.
tiny ginkgo
.. Or they have crashed my game obviously
languid beacon
Idk I’ve gotten a lot of people who say they hide more features on purple than green because purples crash people. As a purple, that sucks and makes me wish rank didn’t exist
steep turret
I don't judge people unless they're, y'know, some scummy person or whatever for obvious reasons. I treat everyone the same more or less
vocal shard
@brisk bone Totally agrees with you.
Atleast we can easily see who are being jerks in this game
Hmmmm, what about this idea? What if the reason it appears to some that purples are crashing more than others, is because the safety system is working better than we realize, and just blocking all the other ranks from crashing?
Rather than this stigma that's forming how "purples themselves are bad"....
Or something?
steep turret
could be. who knows honestly. I think the ranking system was a bad move in general, but whatevs.
vocal shard
Yeah. I already stated my opinion on it when it first came out. But 
tiny ginkgo
I've disabled shields personally so I have no idea
vocal shard
Gotta work with what we got
tiny ginkgo
I think VRC is boring without all the crazy avatars and effects etc so for me I just go naked
vocal shard
Mhmm, i disable all the safety too
tiny ginkgo
Well at least going to publics and such is, for me
languid beacon
Even so, in purely social situations, not messing with avatars, just chatting, I feel people are more talkative/approachable when I hide as green.
tiny ginkgo
Yeah I also think there's some sort of superiority "fear"
vocal shard
Yeah. Especially for newer players. Some feel intimidated to talk to others who've been there longer
steep turret
maybe I'll pose as a green for a while. then again people don't normally bring up my rank when I talk to randos
languid beacon
I’d be green all the time but muh shaders
glossy wharf
Sometimes when i read this chat i think ya'll playing a diff game
torn nebula
They're playing the meta
vocal shard
Hmm? This isn't Roblox?
steep turret
this isn't kingdom hearts 3 vr?
languid beacon
Sai I used to feel that way, I’m like “people only care about rank on discord, no one cares in VRChat itself” but eh, im starting to notice the social effects of having a label over peoples heads
tiny ginkgo
We should have ranks on Discord
steep turret
I want the shark rank
tiny ginkgo
The Shrank
glossy wharf
legit havent met a single person giving a flying fuck about the ranks
steep turret
you need the vrchat dlc pre-order deluxe edition for the super secret badass rank
raven mulch
i want the nuisance rank
steep turret
good for you sai. neither have I. only overheard it In a convo once
vocal shard
I've seen my friend go with his green tag and try to meet some "higher" ranks to see how they treat him. A couple of groups did actually make fun of him for his green rank and sort of ignore him. Until he flashed his purple and then they changed.
It depends where you go i guess
steep turret
such hats
vocal shard
Mhmm. But they had a bit of an ego anyway. Wouldn't want to be with them
tiny ginkgo
No exactly. That's an instant bail right there.
languid beacon
I haven’t met anyone who cares ether, Sai. But make your tag green for a bit and you may notice people act more personable
vocal shard
It's really nice when people do use the ranks as an opportunity to help welcoming new ones though.
steep turret
an ego is okay as long as you aren't an ass. I have a huuuuge ego. but I don't treat people like garbage because of it
languid beacon
Like it or not some people are intimidated by the purple tag and it sucks because I want my shaders lol
steep turret
what shader
languid beacon
Purple rank can use custom shader code
vocal shard
Mhmm.
I had one friend who thought the ranking system was like... Accurate...
At first he blocked everything below trusted. Even voice. He thought people started trusted and then lost rank as they made mistakes in game. Oof
languid beacon
If you hide as green, safety treats you like a green, no one sees your custom shaders
tiny ginkgo
I want to make the whole world yellow
tiny ginkgo
steep turret
you fuckin adorable bean
languid beacon
Nass wants to pee on the whole world, run.
stoic halo
i use the safety to turn off animations for everyone but friends
and turn off avataars for visitors
steep turret
and wholesome moment ruined lmfao
vocal shard
runic hound
The vrc devs need to start developing the safety system for use in rl. It would improve my workday and those unfortunate moments when I have to go outside.
steep turret
understandable lol
runic hound
Don't be silly, cars can't run, they don't have any legs
tiny ginkgo
I bike in the bike lane
Cars decide to make a turn when I have the right
I get run down
Or equally bad. Pedestrians can't get their eyes off of their phones. I run them down because they cross over right in front of me
languid beacon
🤔
heady vigil
what world would i find ricardo milos avatar?
runic hound
Oh yeah. I'm a pedestrian and the phone thing drives me crazy, people are constantly walking into me
(I don't use my phone while walking, they do)
steep turret
who said about wanting ranks in real life? my jobs has IRL ranks lol
tiny ginkgo
There are so many ranks irl
runic hound
not the ranks, but the safety system. I'd just switch almost everyone off
languid beacon
I have safety off entriely yeah. I used vrc before it existed, I’m fine with it off and just hiding the avatars that are annoying manually
languid beacon
As I understand it though most people keep theirs set at normal safety so unless you friend them most won’t see your avatar correctly until purple 😦 that’s the only reason I care about rank. I’m just vein and want people to see me lol
tiny ginkgo
Yeah I just assume most people see me
stone current
torn nebula
tfw you get a right after one of your controllers runs out of batteries and you're about to drop off
long venture
^ and ill be like " ehh ill add you next time "
then the friend request drops into the abyss of pending friend requests i have
torn nebula
Why not decline old ones?
long venture
theres literally hundreds of them
I wouldnt know where to start XD
torn nebula
Use the API I guess lol
I don't let them build up - if I get a request I'm accepting or declining it either right away, or after at most like ten minutes to see who this person is
long venture
most of the time i get request from people not even in the same world as me so i just ignore them
and it has been going on for a year now
torn nebula
Not in the same world? Declined. Though it would be useful to have a "block friend requests" button
tidal aspen
you can accept/deny via the website
torn nebula
Yeah I know. But still...
cursive skiff
Tfw you get an add right after horn rubs...
Or by calling people thots... either one is strange
steep turret
you live an interesting life rick
cursive skiff
AHAHAHA yes!
And so be it! I enjoy it.
Don’t get me started on my gf when I was in college...
Well, my ex*
covert linden
steep turret
I think I'll leave that topic alone lol
vocal shard
Yo.
lean hull
hello
vocal shard
Good. You?
delicate perch
tfw make your own avatar from a cube and no one notices
quartz thicket
how many people are on this ?
delicate perch
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5883 users in VRChat currently
delicate perch
tada?
vocal shard
On this?.... Discord server? Or in game?
quartz thicket
discord
vocal shard
Yeah
And more offline
quartz thicket
wow
keen ridge
there are 58,684 member in total on the discord (offline and online)
including any bots they have which i only know abt the vrcbot so yeah
delicate perch
there have been a few other VRChat like things comming out, some that actually show a lot of promise, they also use unity, but VRChat seems to be better simply cause the social part, these othes have very little users and a huge learning curve
oh yeah, they want to charge a montly subscription for them as well
vocal shard
Oof
delicate perch
its only 1,200 a month, so its not bad
vocal shard
Vrchat has a history as well. We just hit 5 years. And it seems like it's going to stay for quite a bit longer
delicate perch
call me old school, but i really feel VRChat is SecondLife 2.0
A user created multiverse.
(now with an actual game engine)
covert linden
Vrchat is more real than my real world tbh
delicate perch
Like Second Life.
vocal shard
In that sense, somewhat. But i don't think vrchat wants the reputation second life has
covert linden
Idk whar second life is
covert linden
Oh ok
delicate perch
Second Life was an open world sandbox that was all user created, no goals, no finish line, you made your world.
Yes what it boiled down to now is a sespool, but in its golden years it was simply amazing.
torn nebula
Also a monetization platform for content creators
delicate perch
Correct.
cerulean valve
ey guys i got a question to ask
delicate perch
Sup?
cerulean valve
do you guys think the vrchat sdk is hard to install
vocal shard
No
delicate perch
its a unity package, so no
cerulean valve
i didn't want to work for me at first so
vocal shard
It’s Unity
cerulean valve
ye
covert linden
Ive never had a problem witb the sdk
cerulean valve
i had some issue trying to install it at first but now it works
now i just need to wait to import a model
covert linden
Iy takes ages
toxic halo
Got a job at oculus support! This should be fun
vocal shard
Oh, cool!
stone current
yay mayb some1 who not take forevr 2 gib good answer
umbral reef
Big odds he is going to be level 1 support what means he wont know all the juicy stuff
toxic halo
Well i just started but once i finish training i wont mind helping you out with troubleshooting fren. And bingo oclac
stone current
tiny ginkgo
That sounds really nice
stone current
lvl 99 boss support
tiny ginkgo
Congratulations
toxic halo
Level 35 king crimson
tiny ginkgo
We all start at level 1. You gotta grind to make it big
toxic halo
Ty! ^^
stone current
toxic halo
Yeah haha
tiny ginkgo
stone current
oculus suport how 2 maek fit on all dogos
toxic halo
Mask fit on big pugs!
stone current
it fit me
tiny ginkgo
Wulfe I read the other day that you have a beautiful voice.
stone current
wat
tiny ginkgo
Next time we meet don't hide it
toxic halo
Their wuff is superior
tiny ginkgo
toxic halo
Is wha I do!
stone current
ima maek dat an emoji
toxic halo
rocky blaze
i has question, where you do find out how long you've been on vrchat for (account creation)
floral aspen
I don't think there's a way to check. You just have to remember when you joined
stone current
vocal shard
Probably best bet to get close is to check your steam "purchase date" for vrchat
heavy dawn
@toxic halo Congrats on the job
toxic halo
@heavy dawn ty! ^^
stone current
my job is be fluff and get pay in pats and treat
toxic halo
That sounds like a good job
stone current
yus
stone current
👋 🐶
vocal shard
Cya
mental turret
Anyone know where I can find a good General Grievous Avatar? I tried the one on redacted but wrong lightsabers
Im absolute shite at modeling so i cant really fix that myself either or make my own
tacit plank
You can learn it
heavy dawn
gives @stone current 1 Internet pats
tacit plank
Btw you might want to remove that URL. That site is not supported on here as it shits on VRChat guidelines, has stolen avatars, and other such things
stone current
yeee
mental turret
fixed it
stone current
if u cant make ur own then get some1 2 do it 4 u, pay some1, or learn
video in #general-media ima repost
mental turret
so theres really no endorsed hub for getting shared avatars then?
stone current
wat
mental turret
like a steam workshop or nexus?
stone current
its not a shared avatar
rocky blaze
yea just checked my licenses for my steam and i have been on vrchat a year today
stone current
its a 'avatar' that someone gave away
heavy dawn
General Grievous wouldn't be too bad to make yourself. There are lots of pieces of art that show the front and sides. There's a technique for modelling where you set the 2D art as a background and just trace around it basically in verteces. Then stretch those into the shape that looks right. 😃
rocky blaze
yikes
stone current
if the model is crepe then it person who made its fault so
unles not meant 4 vrcat
heavy dawn
VRChat is good because you can see yourself in different forms and because it's a creative medium that's interactive. You can make art that you wear and interact with. Or your own house! YOur own world!
stone current
and u can draw pp in 3d
tacit plank
I looked at myself in a VRChat mirror today and though "damn, this model looks good"
stone current
*look at actual mirror*
tacit plank
And it stared right back at me with its eyetracking
heavy dawn
hehe yeah
stone current
1 time i crashed at the worst tiem
mental turret
didnt really expect a motivational speech i just wanted to find a cool avatar
heavy dawn
The only weird thing about mirrors is the mouth tracking happens about a second after you say something.
stone current
i was in home with liek 1 friend
heavy dawn
Is it lined up for other users?
stone current
no wait 2 frend and a random
tacit plank
Real mirrors are scary. They remind me that I'm actually adult now.
I've been adult for over 5 years, but it's still hard to get used to
covert linden
Why dont you want a motivational speech
stone current
and i look in mirror and say 'what u think of this model'
and then the avatar make a angery face and i crashed
mental turret
because i want a cool avatar instead
tacit plank
Make it
stone current
ok let me just gib u 10 bucc bc u want sum monz
tacit plank
We can build it, we have the technology
covert linden
Then go to avatar worlds
heavy dawn
LMAO I'm imagining just modelling the "Just deal with it" pixel art sunglasses as a model by themselves and giving it to @mental turret
The emotes woudl all be the glasses fall fromt he ceiling and the text shows.
mental turret
I tried but theres not very many worlds with SW avatars
stone current
o i modeled that b4
heavy dawn
@stone current Doing God's work
tacit plank
If you suck at modeling (I do too) you can always just fuck with the textures in photoshop or someting
stone current
when u did handgun it do a ranged screenshake shader wit dwi glasses
heavy dawn
🤣
That's the nexxt thing I want to learn! I watched a tutorial last night before bed.
tacit plank
I had to hide an avatar today for breaking the poly limit, grabbing my view with a shader, and playing volume above the usual limit
covert linden
Whats sw
mental turret
Star wars
stone current
shark waters
heavy dawn
I guess it's really as simple as making the animation and putting it into the slot in the VRChat Avatar Descriptor.
covert linden
Oh
mental turret
it looks like im not getting any help here
covert linden
Wym theres a kermit the frog darth vador its beautiful
mental turret
ill leave
stone current
sory its *shaken whiskey
covert linden
No hate for Kermit..
stone current
wat bout mr frog brother pepe
tacit plank
What I hate most about shaders that fuck up your view, it's that people just downloaded them off of that one shitty site.
If they had coded it themselves, I would be at least somewhat okay with it
heavy dawn
Aww... Sorry Chocolad. Ripping avatars from different places is actually against the rules so I don't think people will help with that. But if you're interested in Star Wars and want grievous, you can probably find a free model online and rig it yourself using Mixamo.
stone current
it cull itself out if u 2 far away from it
heavy dawn
Won't be perfect but good enough to start with.
tacit plank
Isn't that just a shaking sphere?
raven mulch
they already left
covert linden
Ripping is against the rules of copyright..
stone current
so not troll ppl who away
tacit plank
I see, guess that works
stone current
ye it is but ripped models r everywhere in vrcat
tacit plank
Thanks for being considerate
stone current
even ripped worlds but those r made public anyway
and u cant report ripped avatar on vrcat so
covert linden
Doesnt mean its not allowed
heavy dawn
Wow, they actually left the server.
tacit plank
Rules are basically "don't talk about how to rip stuff"
tacit plank
Which is silly. And that too, yeah
floral aspen
not surprising. Sometimes people come in here expecting immediate answers to their questions and if they don't get them within a few minutes they sulk or throw a fit and leave
stone current
probably bc not their fault unless following article 13
cuz article 13 say their fault 4 allowing upload of content
but if not it the users fault and they just remove the content as needed
kinda like utube copyright thing
but idk if games rlly care about it
tacit plank
What the rule basically says is:
You have a specific sequence of electricity at some memory address (a videogame) and you're not allowed to move it to a new address, or inform others how to do so
stone current
it already happen a lot 2 them and its more free advertisement
that not make sense lol
heavy dawn
Depends on the company and how litigious they are.
stone current
proper term is the model is stored in RAM or in files and it is converted or stored as common/usable format
tacit plank
Ripping an avatar is taking data already on your computer and copying it to blender or whatever
stone current
woof
floral aspen
there's tons of nintendo avatars in vrc though
heavy dawn
@tacit plank Yeah and also uploading it to basically a sharing service that is VRchat.
To even use an avatar, you're basically uploading it to be shared. (Just not necessarily worn by others.)
tacit plank
That too. But I do whatever I want with information which is on my machine, especially if I paid for it
heavy dawn
Every other user gets to cache it.
floral aspen
You paid for the game, not the individual assets
heavy dawn
Sure, just might make you liable if it's a trademarked character, or basically any art since everything is copyright from the moment you make it.
stone current
well again
tacit plank
The assets are in the game
stone current
u can easily google liek 'gta 5 trevor model'
not like those gnna be removed anytime soon
heavy dawn
heh yeah
I think it's not a big concern for them. Especially if they aren't selling mascots like Nintendo is.
stone current
and yea assets part of game but like
tacit plank
It's not that I think that I own the assets. It's that it's absurd to make it illegal for me to change the sequence of bits in my machine, or copy them to other locations in my ram or on my HDD
heavy dawn
Companies care more if they want to re-use the same IP over and over and their lawyers say they have to file copyright claims or forfeit their right to do so in the future (in US law I believe)
stone current
well thats not the problem
u can take them just fine it doesnt matter'
legal issue arise when u use them
floral aspen
^
stone current
bc they hold the copyright
if they wanted 2 they could take any legal action they want on behalf of the product
tacit plank
Technically, it's illegal to download mp3s from Youtube. But you can't view them without downloading them in the process
stone current
and if they go after individuals ur basically a goner bc of all the legal experience 4 the company
tacit plank
It would still be wrong for me to sell others assets of course
umbral reef
Kinda wrong there caff
You cant split the audio from youtube video;s
And mp3 programs do that
heavy dawn
I hate copyright, it's broken as hell. I also thing creators need to be paid. It takes a lot of time and effort to make things.
Copyright, patents, and trademarks are all pretty broken right now.
stone current
again u can look up some illegal things and download them 2 ur pc
grim oak
i have no idea what you guys are talking about but its something about ripping and i'll just say this: i port models all the time because I can't model for shit (for now at least) and i like to mash them together making new things.
stone current
but if ur caught with it ur going 2 jail
heavy dawn
Serve corproations, don't guarantee individual creators get paid.
tacit plank
mp4, then. My point still stands
umbral reef
You are allowed to record it instead and use that file from youtube.
Then YT wont give a shit- There is a reason some websites provide that service then
stone current
again u can look up some illegal things and download them 2 ur pc
but if ur caught with it ur going 2 jail
the caught with it applies to literally everything including other crimes
tacit plank
That's fair enough
floral aspen
you're not going to jail for ripping models or mp3's. Most that'll happen is you get fined
stone current
ye is exageration
heavy dawn
Sometimes huge fines, but yeah.
stone current
n0
grim oak
sounds like the equivalent of mr. Lange and the fact that he will LITERALLY SUE YOU IF HE CATCHES YOU WITH ONE OF HIS MODELS
tacit plank
But it's a funny thought that if you reverse all the bytes, the information is still illegal if law enforcement can turn it into something illegal
heavy dawn
Because that's not a thing in Canada. (I didn't think so.)
stone current
they may be put in jail but like
tacit plank
It's even possible to generate random bits, and ending up with something illegal
stone current
that was way bacc when no one could even pay debt
less ppl not paying debt nowadays
and they just sieze all ur assets for collateral
floral aspen
there's nothing like that in the US lilithelotor
grim oak
i mean i get the fact that they made the model but SONIC IS A COPYRIGHTED CHARACTER AND HE BASICALLY STEALS THE CHARACTER AND SUES ANYONE WHO USES IT
stone current
yeaaaa
the chances that ur gonna generate the right sequence
are so so so so so so so so so so so so so
so so so so so so so low that it would be theoretically impossible
in fact u would be much much more lucky if u generated a file format instead
but still very unlucky
tacit plank
Depends on how I got the information. If it's uploaded to youtube on some official channel, I won't feel bad for downloading it.
But I won't copy VRChat avatars even though they're in my cache and I technically can
stone current
bc u do realize that for example 1 byte is 8 bits
and for every 8 bits u can have on and off for each one
heavy dawn
If digital liberty people think we should be able to steal everything, because "it's not stealing, it's copying," then they should also agree that we should have high marginal taxes and social programs that make sure people who do jobs like art aren't left on the streets.
stone current
thats already like 256 combinations
heavy dawn
🤷
stone current
add another byte
256^2
add enough bytes for maybe a small file, like 10,000
256^10,000
good luck
heavy dawn
Yeah, if we could accidentally make great stuff all the time, it would happen. Good work takes effort. A LOT of effort sometimes. Effort over time to learn how to do it, effort to actually make something, etc.
tacit plank
Yeah, a 1k by 1k picture has 7.8*10^7224719 combinations of colors
Unless I did the math wrong. It's a lot, anyways
stone current
i mean u can accidentally make great stuff
u can make some neural network that analyzes models and creates their own
or analyzes modelling vids and 'learns' how 2 model liek a person lol
tacit plank
Would that be stealing from every avatar creator though? Since you're generating data based on them
stone current
um not rlly
ur not exactly sharing their stuff and u would probably ask if it isnt public domain
but its the same reason why if u use a meme or image/video of game on utube u dont get dmca'd
tacit plank
Yet, lol
stone current
wym yet its fair use
tacit plank
Article 13 or whatever?
stone current
its never gona be a thing since fair use law
no that completely different
article 13 changes some things including how copyright cases are handled and who is at fault
heavy dawn
Yeah reasonable limits on copyright. Fair use is huge.
stone current
not rlly anything about fair use
tacit plank
Ah, I see
stone current
like nobody can go sue u 4 copyright bc u have a game logo in their video
tacit plank
Well, give it a few years
stone current
or if u stream ur gameplay
no its never gona happen lmao
not like twitch is gona be murdered
tacit plank
We're slowly losing to companies that want money
stone current
so
having a copyright doesnt make u the king of the world
just means u own ownership of ur assets and u can issue copyright violation claim for reasonable things
tacit plank
Most files in your computer and phone are already send to various databases and shared with the government.
Scanning these files for copyrighted things is not difficult, and is the next step if companies think there's money to be made
umbral reef
@stone current hf fighting it in court tho
heavy dawn
I have had to host some things on my own website because I made a mashup of Expanse and Les Miserables. They blocked it worldwide! Yay NBC.
stone current
however the only instance of ppl going overboard is the GMC music or whatever DMCA'ng utube vids 4 playing music or smtg
relevant one that is
heavy dawn
Yeah I get copyright claims when I stream all the time in VR. Surprisingly more on VRchat than when I play beat saber. 🤣
There's like one song on beat saber I get claims for.
Not being able to share in the monetization of a video with a claim is 100% bullshit.
stone current
there also stuff like this https://youtu.be/z4AeoAWGJBw
tacit plank
It's currently difficult to remove your things from Youtube, so it will only happen if you get a lot of views with it.
But it's slowly being automated because people are retarded and share everything about themselves.
Also look at twitch clips. Like 1/3 of the audio is gone by default because copyrighted music is detected
heavy dawn
Example: video is mostly my work but a section of it was outside and someone was playing music? CLAIMED!
tacit plank
What will happen next is that your GPU will automatically charge a fine from your credit card when you go above the speed limit or something
umbral reef
@heavy dawn can counter claim that though
And with the new youtube beta it aint too hard
stone current
nobody cares if u blow up ur own pc with it other than whoever was there
tacit plank
In theory
stone current
unless was design flaw
tacit plank
But you don't have access over your own phone anymore. Computers are heading in the same direction
stone current
ye u do
heavy dawn
@umbral reef To be fair, you're right. In that specific case I actually won a counter-claim.
stone current
u can do whatever u want with ur phone as long as is legal lol
heavy dawn
Sometimes you get shot down though. FAST. It's up to the claimant. And they can choose to REALLY retaliate by giving you a strike.
stone current
u own the phone but u dont own the rights 2 it
but there are stuff like 'if u tampered with it we cant fix it apples rules'
y this in general
heavy dawn
I think anti-tamper rules are illegal in some states aren't they? I know warranty void stickers are unenforceable or something.
tacit plank
Huh, so it is
tacit plank
You don't know what's going on on your phone. The government does though, and likely Facebook
Good idea
stone current
thats 4 ur own good tho
stone current
sleek bone
Avatar Rating:
Materials 
Bones
Meshes
Dynamic Bone components
Dynamic Bone transforms 🔴
Avatar rating: 🔴
sleek bone
Everything's good and excellent except this stupid transforms requirement
tacit plank
CATS can combine bones. I don't think it will even look different
umbral reef
Its the main thing that causes lagg tho
sleek bone
Why
tacit plank
You don't need more bone transforms than my avatar even has bones. Whoever made the avatar did something terribly wrong, and fixing it only takes a few minutes with the CATS Blender plugin
umbral reef
Because every transform has to be calculated always
The more transforms the more to calculate
Its hard to calculate 1000 of things 60 times a second
And it tries to catch up if its lagging behind what makes everything slowdown
sleek bone
Like I have 5 atlas'd models with a few bones and always goes red on transforms
rigid crescent
Dynamic Bones are probably one of the things that cause the most lag, that's why.
tacit plank
Isn't red only past 50 or something?
sleek bone
They should remove the the transforms requirement seriously
rigid crescent
No
stone current
hahaha
rigid crescent
Lyeco, read. You're ignoring everything we say.
umbral reef
If you want laggy worlds that you cant actually play? Yes go for it my dude
rigid crescent
Dynamic bones are one of the things that cause the most lag. It's there for a reason.
tacit plank
The system is there to measure lag. It's not perfect, but your avatar is laggy and people deserve to know that and hide it if they wish
stone current
u can just ignore the performance rating tho
ppl will block u if mostly in red or laggy af
rigid crescent
and it reds at 33, not 50
stone current
but not like u should purposefuly make it poor
sleek bone
Kinda sucks if they're binary. Especially when they check if the rest of the model is fricken green
umbral reef
Cant deny that but everything with dynamic bones should be judged harshly
stone current
ears with 2 each
rigid crescent
You're right on that end, but how many transforms are your dynamic bones?
tacit plank
A skirt only needs maybe 12 bones to look good. Hair maybe 4 or 6. Tits one bone each.
There is no excuse for having 100, and even less excuse for having 10 colliders on top of that
umbral reef
A few extra materials will most of the time give less problems then a dynamic bones or cloth
sleek bone
rigid crescent
If we ever do get a graded system, odds are dynamic bones will be the harshest judged thing on the list still,. and for good reason
stone current
probably have 999 hair bones
rigid crescent
Just remove a transform, you'll be at Orange. Poor is 33
sleek bone
The link is proof of why I hate the transforms requirement
stone current
bro legit
rigid crescent
Except again, you're completely ignoring all the points we're making
stone current
u do not need more than 33 for that avatar
there is literally nothing dynamic other than skirty thing or hair
rigid crescent
Just merge bone weights.
tacit plank
Your avatar doesn't even have a skirt. You have 33 bones in the hair? Install CATS, go to optimization, select something with "hair" in its name, press "merge" then "75%" or something. That's literally all it takes
stone current
mine are much more dynamic and not read poor
sleek bone
Proof that I am ignoring
rigid crescent
Because you're complaining about it despite knowledge that dynamic bones are the worst thing for performance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7sAPfGrHns learn how to merge bone weights, you'll be fine
tacit plank
You want to lag others because you're lazy. You're free to, but they deserve to know that fact at the very least
steep turret
all this arguing is tearing this family apart
stone current
ur tearig me apart lisa
sleek bone
I hope the grading system is put in place ASAP
sleek bone
Because I don't want one part red to be completely a failure
rigid crescent
Yes, it needs to be fixed.
tacit plank
Just fix the damn model man
stone current
^
rigid crescent
No, Odds are it wouldn't be in red if everything else is Excellent or Good
stone current
lazy nob
rigid crescent
33 transforms isn't a lot
stone current
my models look way more complex with db and not that many transforms
sleek bone
Plus. all my transforms are in the hair itself
rigid crescent
DB should be the most heavily weighted thing, but 33 shouldn't be putting you in red once there's real grading
rigid crescent
Well, Lyeco, just merge some bone weights
tacit plank
True. But that people can have "poor" rating on 5 different things and still be below "very poor" is more of a problem than the opposite thing happening
sleek bone
Easy for you to say
umbral reef
Merge one bone even
stone current
they gave u a utube vid u nob
sleek bone
Long video
stone current
2 bad
sleek bone
Like 52 minutes wtf
tacit plank
Install CATS plugin, go to optimization. Find something with "hair" in its name. Press the button.
You're done
rigid crescent
OH NOOOO I HAVE TO SPEND TIME TO LEARN NEW SKILSSSS AHHHHH
sleek bone
Lel
rigid crescent
I feel a lot less sorry for you than i originally did, you're just lazy.
sleek bone
No, I'll just rather wait for the grading update .
rigid crescent
You realize we might never get it, right?
umbral reef
Who says it will ever happen?
sleek bone
Tupper
rigid crescent
Also you literally confirm you're lazy.
umbral reef
Yea as tupper has all the say within the company lmao nice meme
rigid crescent
Do you know Tupper's job? jw
rigid crescent
Yes, and remember how long it took to get chairs?
sleek bone
The next update should be point-based.
rigid crescent
And I doubt the ranking system is very high on the ladder
It should be, but that doesn't mean it's coming any time soon.
umbral reef
And chairs would return within weeks not months or years.
But i guess a VRC week is actually a few months for normal humans~~
sleek bone
You mean chairs on avatars?
rigid crescent
by waiting all you do is prove you're lazy and can't click literally five buttons
umbral reef
Im also still waiting for Udon
Or multiple hand gestures or all the other things 'they are looking into'
sleek bone
I know how to atlas and parent bones but not merge weights
rigid crescent
There's....there's literally a button for it, and a video, multipel videos
Kareeda's isn't the only one, it's just the most indepth
umbral reef
Its legit one button press with CATS
rigid crescent
literally google "merge bone weights blender"
sleek bone
I am not lazy completely
I only hate that specific part only.
I literally just said I do Atlas and I do parent bones.
umbral reef
Still- Complaining about the system and or its rating is unjust when its about dynamic bones.
You can even see tuppers own video about this.
tacit plank
Use CATS. It's literally easier than atlasing
rigid crescent
Oh right, he does merge bone weights
sleek bone
No
rigid crescent
tacit plank
Less bones means less transforms
rigid crescent
.....
tacit plank
Transforms is "amount of bones affected by dynamic bones" I believe
rigid crescent
Basically, yes.
sleek bone
You can see in the pic that everything's optimized except the transfrom. I am just pulling my hair why it's red alot
rigid crescent
You know why
sleek bone
I am just going grovel.
rigid crescent
We told you why. We told you how brain dead simple it is to fix.
sleek bone
It's brain dead simple to you but not to others
rigid crescent
No, it's brain dead simple to everyone, you're just too lazy to learn
steep turret
probably not simple for a blind person
sleek bone
It's delusional to say that it's brain dead simple to everyone
steep turret
nothing, it seems
sleek bone
@queen mango I am complaining about bone transforms
tacit plank
I promise it's easy
sleek bone
Specifically dyanamic bone transforms.
rigid crescent
No, it's REALLY not. There's youtube videos and CATs documentation
I bet you haven't read the documentation for CATs at all have you? Nor have to watched any guides
sleek bone
What might sound easy to you, may not be easy to others.
tacit plank
Especially with CATS. You just press 3 buttons. It does everything else for you
rigid crescent
Just because you can't do it doesn't mean it isn't simple
Can you explain to me how clicking two buttons isn't simple? I'd like to know.
tacit plank
The fact that you managed to open Discord is proof enough that you can use CATS
sleek bone
I know how to use CATS
rigid crescent
No you don't
sleek bone
But not reduce bone transforms
rigid crescent
So you don't know how to use CATS.
sleek bone
Where do you think I know how to ATLAS
umbral reef
Legit you already did the thing you need to do
steep turret
this is a very circular conversation
rigid crescent
Because you can use CATS to to reduce bones. See?
umbral reef
Bone parenting is the exact same within cats as merging bones
rigid crescent
It's not. It's really, really not.
tacit plank
It looks like this:
Optimization:
Bone Merging
To Merge: _______ (drop down selection menu)
Merge ratio: 50%
Refresh list | Merge Bones
rigid crescent
You don't know completely how to use CATS. There's documentation both on the DLpage for it, and on youtube. You choose not to learn, you're at fault, no one else.
cursive skiff
Hmmm I need the horn pats! Screee
sleek bone
I know how. Why do you think I have avatars?
tacit plank
Less bones is less transforms
steep turret
classic rick
rigid crescent
Lyeco, if you know how to use CATS why can't you merger bone weights?
sleek bone
I have 400 hours on Blender damn it!
sleek bone
Because I can't.
rigid crescent
Then learn how. It's simple, it takes seconds.
sleek bone
You check my steam profile.
steep turret
you ever talk to a wall? i think this is what it must be like
sleek bone
400 hours on blender
rigid crescent
There's guides on the internet for you. CATS has documentation as well as
yeah, I'm done. Some people are so smoothbrained it's painful. I'll let you stay ignorant
sleek bone
I'll let you stay unemphatic then
cursive skiff
Yup! I have to be a skank when ever I can in vr
umbral reef
Its legit- Select two bones in edit mode
Press spacebar
"Merge-"
Done
rigid crescent
I was empathetic until you showed an adversity to learn. We gave you the resources, you chose to not use them.
cursive skiff
Cause why not! That’s my reasoning
steep turret
classic rick, yet again lol
sleek bone
The moment you said that it's dead simple to everyone is the moment you lose your empathy.
cursive skiff
AHAHAHAHA hey, you know it!
tacit plank
It's like saying you don't know how to use numlock, and then yelling at people who try to explain that it's to the right on the keyboard
rigid crescent
The only people it's not simple to are those who did not choose to learn.
tacit plank
Most people stand in their own way when it comes to success in life, but you take it to a new level. I'm done with this conversation
sleek bone
It isn't very considerate you know. Not everyone is Mic_sounders or caffeine.
rigid crescent
That's true. Some people are their own worst enemy.
steep turret
top 10 anime betrayals
sleek bone
lol
rigid crescent
You were given resources to learn. Use them, or don't. It's up to you. We're done
sleek bone
Hey, if you want to call me dumb go ahead. Not everyone is you anyway so yeah. I am done as well
steep turret
you three gonna kiss or what
sleek bone
No
vocal shard
im getting crashed on oculus and steam?
steep turret
sorry, lol i had to
vocal shard
anybody else being crashed?
umbral reef
But lyeco
If you can parent bones you can merge bones with CATS
Its legit almost the same thing within CATS, takes no shortcuts, searching for effects or changing settings at all really. Its more simple then decimating a model or merging materials...
rigid crescent
Ocalc jsut let them smoothbrain, it's ok
waste your time on people who want to learn
steep turret
this is like a love triangle but with dislike instead of love
rigid crescent
find where I said that
queen mango
@vocal shard I don't seem to have a problem right now regarding those two.. you sure you have the latest version?
rigid crescent
lol I gave you the resources you need to learn, you ignored them.
sleek bone
I know the resources. I am just not into reducing the dynamic bone transforms.
Call me Stupid or Dumb
Whatever
rigid crescent
Just ignorant and lazy
sleek bone
or Lazy
rigid crescent
lol you have no reason not to do it other than laziness
sleek bone
Whatever mockery you want to say to me.
steep turret
now kiss
rigid crescent
Am I wrong?
sleek bone
No kissing
rigid crescent
Why don't you want to reduce them
sleek bone
Because I made the model less functional for me or lose the weights. It'll sound stupid to you but that's my explanation.
rigid crescent
That's incorrect.
You won't lose the weights. It will merge them and look almost exactly the same.
sleek bone
My hair might not even move as much anymore.
steep turret
hes right lyeco, but yall should just fall into each others arms already anyway
umbral reef
If it was one bone maybe
But with how many you still have that get transformed il be amazed if anyone can see the difference if you do it right
sleek bone
No!
umbral reef
Or even if you do it badly really
tacit plank
How much it moves depends on the dynamic bone values that you give it
sleek bone
It's making my blood boil. I don't want to be angry like a boiling teapot.
steep turret
why are u mad over models anyway
tacit plank
I bet there won't be any visual changes unless you remove more than 80%
sleek bone
tacit plank
Learn to control your emotions too while you're at it, or at least direct them properly
sleek bone
I am.
rigid crescent
lol
Merging bone weights will show almost no difference whatsoever
You literally don't know what you're talking about. You're wrong.
you even said it "might" not move as much, so that proves you don't even know
tacit plank
VRChat is doing its job, the creator of CATS invested a lot of his time in making this task really easy for you. Neither of the two are to blame
rigid crescent
Only the people too lazy to do it or too ignorant to learn are to blame tbh
and too impatient to test, of course
hasty wedge
dont need to optimize if the mirror drops u to 45 anyways 
steep turret
solid point
tacit plank
You can have 90 FPS with a mirror on, on minimum specs in VR
tacit plank
It's not a good argument though. "I will have a bit of lag, so we might as well give up on optimization and lag out those with worse hardware"
sleek bone
^^^^^
rigid crescent
lol mirror shouldn't drop you from 90 unless it's a trash world of course
tacit plank
It was probably meant as a joke though
sleek bone
Box should be well optimised even with a mirror.
rigid crescent
It's not
sleek bone
Really?
tacit plank
Ever played on a GTX 970?
sleek bone
No
tacit plank
It's just too many pixels for the poor thing, lol
sleek bone
So, the box isn't an optimized place? @rigid crescent
umbral reef
The box does nto allow the game to /not/ render things
tacit plank
It prevents avatar culling?
umbral reef
Adding a cube in the middle would make it instantly more optimized
Just so that you wont see everyone all the time
rigid crescent
There's significantly more optimized maps that aren't a literal cube