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Lol you payed for that?
HEHE
I regret it.
Adding a Mario hat to sans would literally take not even 5 minutes in unity
Really?
Yes
And then processing it into VR Chat?
Yup
This dude charged me above 20 for it.
LOL
I'm lowkey peeved.
It's just importing the hat into unity and you parent the head bone to it. That's it
Who would charge 20 dollars for a Mario hat?
A guy who knows his audience well
I paid 25ish to get an avatar with a floaty hair piece they couldnt fix.. fastforward like 2 months I taught myself how to weigh paint and fixed what the commissioner couldnt...
You live and you learn
Just force a @dark narwhal into heelping
I guess I should fully pay him for it now. Or should I.
gotta abuse the clueless 
if he made it you kinda owe something dont you? its like.. niceness
*the ignorant
Don't pay him for that shit. That's ridiculous
I gave him 10 bucks of it.
if someone does work for u isnt it like common decency though
Like to tell someone youll pay and then not
No im retired
thats called a scam regardless of how u put it
Yeah, but it's also common decency to not scam someone.
90% of people who sell avatars overprice
Like, making someone pay above 10 dollars for something that takes ten minutes.
for just rigging most charge upwards of 70$ man
Yikes.
yeah its terrible..
discuss pay first after that its on you
We did. I already agreed to it. Though I feel heavily scammed.
Yeah people overprice, but people charging for a damn Mario hat is just taking advantage of people's ignorance and just plain scummy
It is
I also wanted the model resized to be smaller though. Would that add to it?
Hmm.. isn't there an option called scaling?
So. Basically. You're telling me. That I could download unity right now and make this.
You could just select the entire mesh and scale it down to what size you want
Yes
In like...ten minutes.
Scaling is just adjusting a number in a box
In a decent amount of time if u add the time it takes to learn
Just set your X, Y, and Z values and bam, you've scaled your avatar.
If you have a model and you want to add the hat and scale it, all you need is unity
You'll have to edit the textures in Photoshop for that
Which doesn't seem too hard.
I'm gonna try this. I feel like I'm gonna get genuinely annoyed if I make it.
You'll make it
watch the tutorial
I'm downloading Unity now.
So, both models I want should be rigged. Besides the Mario hat if that needs to be?
This explains how You Tubers were able to make their own Mario reclone so easily.
Hat doesn't need to be rigged
@floral aspen Can you answer a few questions for me?
I downloaded Unity, now I gotta question. Rather funny one.
what kinda question bud

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jamie i like how you mostly post emotes. adds an air of mystery to you, my man.
Mostly just shy and don't know what to say. Lol
ah i see. well, since we seem to be the only two people here atm--whats up?
Not much really 
I tend to just hang around here at this time... Lurking
In bed staying warm. Lol
fair enough. im mostly doing the same--while working on my model. im tryin to find the smug dance from a hat in time. but to no avail. feelsbad, man.
Ah. I see ^^
I would be on unity.... But... Lazy
understandable. oh, that reminds me. i was looking into something a few weeks back and managed to find you on youtube. you were talking about playing games while in vr, or somethin.
i was like "hey i know that dude"
Oh? Lol. Probably the one i did a while back, playing desktop games while in vrchat?
yeah that one. i was wondering how some people can play games while havin their avatar basically replace the webcam. wanted to do some shenanigans with my blitz model.
Lol nice ^^
I used ovrdrop to place my desktop in game, and the stream cam.
yeah i was kinda looking into that. i think.
canon-wise he sucks at games, so i figured id throw on my best irish accent and play some games in character. for the lulz mostly.
Nice ^^
but i got lazy and, welp.
life be like that sometimes
Like me.. i have about 3 hours to kill before i play vrchat... Could be doing something productive... But lazy
Lol
being lazy is aight, man. gotta rest up for vr stuff
Mhmm
I should really talk here more though.
I sit back and lurk way too much because I'm afraid of interrupting, or commenting on technical stuff im not sure about.
i guess thats a common worry. its aight tho. i think were havin a decent conversation, so theres that--ha
Yeah ^^
so its all good my guy.
Thanks ^^
no worries. im always down for a good chit chat
eh--not really. the wife is messing around with the new catherine game assets. guess they already got ripped. shes a huge fan of that game, and im just workin on models. nice and breezy. so ive got no complaints over here.
Ooh, thats neat. It's nice to have kinda chill time. Nothing too important going on ^^
yeeah. had a stressful day today--kinda. went to a few medical appointments for some heart stuff.
Oh. Things are alright though?
yeah, yeah. just some tests. had an ekg or whatever, and they hooked me up to some weird sciency shit and had me run. to check out how stressed my heart is, or whatever.
Ah ok. Hope things turn up well
oh yeah, same same. just wish the docs could figure out whats up with me. thatd be swell.
ikr? im bummed out, honestly.
Well.. imma go check out YouTube for a bit ^^
Nice to actually talk to you. Always seen ya around, but never really talked too much
ah sounds like a plan. and same. we should hang out in vr some time my guy.
Sure thing
have fun perusin that youtubes jamie
oof oh yeah bud. all the time, lol
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Oof, smug why...
Lol
Pretty late here.. my class's finished for now.
vrchat is like the best.
I just rped for 2 hours on a star trek ship which we were the most wanted by the space military because of our asshat captain only knowing the word "ENGAGE"
i cant figure out why vr chat is eating drive space on a drive it isnt installed too
game cache
@stoic halo Sounds like hell there.. howzit?
was funny
we improvised as random people joined
took a ODST as prisoner as a super sayain loli beat him with a pan to subdue him
how do i change it out to my regular drive?
@stoic halo 2 hours of rp instead of 8 hours of shitposting LUL
Oh my.. XD
All I could think of that is that it seems so surreal
Yep, sounds a lot like hell
and i apparently had a restraining order on a planet of lolis
where i proceeded to shout about how i was the victim
And apparently, the lolis all didn't take it very well?
the context is missing in the documents but they have a restraining order of my "unacceptable actions"
actions of self defense.
Was just watching some vids on the Tesla suit and the developers were saying it should most likely released this year
Huh.. that don't seem right. I think you should defend your case in VR court.
Be^*
i will bring it to court about planet loli having a restraining order on me
as soon as the military doesnt want to kill us
and we arent the most wanted in the universe.
for how many people we killed on accident

its because the captain
would only say engage and we just engaged everything
causing a lot of chaos
like just imagine that chocolate lady from spongebob just yelling "ENGAGE"
it was like that.
Oof.. but he does know how to handle the spacecraft, no?
the prisoner had to teach him how to use the weapon targeting system
which he proceeded to try and blowup the fuel station while we were low on fuel
we turned him off via the power button
and turned our teddy bear friend into fuel.
Whaa.. how could he easily mess the ID system on those guns?
when the only word he knows is engage
im sure he'll fuck up pretty badly.
we had 5 people working radars because everyone was so special
Yep, they messed it up big time
it was crazy and just so improv.
With all those kinds of stuff happening, I still can't get over how they managed to keep the ship in one piece.
Sounds like you're gonna need an entirely fresh recruitment program there.
our toilet got blasted into space by the military
and all of our engines were offline

we were literally running off of one engine
Crikey.. how can they dump their waste now?
we hold it after that.
Oof..
9/10 something goes wrong when we do something
All because they were improvising everything...
Like I said, you're gonna need a recruitment program there. Give'em tutorials on how to operate the stuff in the ship
hard to teach a teddy bear, a special ed blind guy, a bird, a guy who only knows the word "ENGAGE" and a drunk military prisoner to work a ship tbh
Oh.. forgot about those, oof..
that was our crew.
How do you play vr when youโre blind
It's a roleplay session, Shofu
all of his models have a bandage over his face and his name is Blindy

Going to sleep now?
Yeah. For an hour or two. Then vrc
Alright. Sweet dreams

so i went in an deleted my cache stuff but i still have no space
its eaten gb's of space on my ssd and now i cant play vr chat
this isnt the issue
i have a 2tb hdd which it is installed on
but it keeps using my ssd
After becoming a moderator in a huge discord I can't find the time to hang out with the loners of VRChat

Anyone up who can and wants to give me some basic help with Unity?
god this game is like garrys mod but at least garrys mod puts it in the right place

what
@zinc solar I like discord, but the people of vrchat actually speaks vocally
Valletta there's literally a guide on steam to fix it
link?
Here, in case you didn't find it yourself yet! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1301018572
so i managed to clear the cache and get space back
but upon trying to move it typical pc stuff it doesnt wanna work
i have to run cmd as an admin but then it doesnt wanna recognize cd AppData
instead of being users its saying system 32
i gotta fiddle around with it to get back to users
AppData or %AppData%?
Also, cache is in %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat, which is %appdata%\..\LocalLow\VRChat
and now vrchat is broken
Are you running VRChat over RDC or as the root ("Administrator") account? lol
i have no idea what im doing anymore
Or is it just doing stupid things?
maybe if the stuff went on the drive i installed it in
the problem is that vr chat is using my ssd
and its installed on my hdd
alright
and
its still using my ssd
in what world does the data not save to the drive you installed your game on
this game went through 13gb in a couple hrs
It saves it to wherever your %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow is..
That's dependent on which drive you have Windows installed on @unique yew
Most games just use the standard Windows PATH constants.
Which ffs they don't have a constant for AppData/LocalLow, but there are for AppData/Local and AppData/Roaming.
c users is my ssd
all this work for something that shouldnt be like this
Have you tried symbolic links?
So symbolically link %AppData%/../LocalLow/VRChat to wherever you want it to be stored on your HDD?
its not working either
keeps telling me stuff exists but it doesnt
i guess ill just keep deleting the folder
You shouldn't be able to delete the folder (unless you deleted the one it's linked to; the HDD one) if you made it a symlink fyi.
i dont know whats going on
maybe the devs will make it function like a normal game eventually
Um.. I also forgot: But you've deleted and reinstalled it, right?
i can again
but i dont know what thats going to do
and i dont know if it will make me lose all my favorites and stuff
Valley
Vrchat is also totally a normal game so all normal game stuff applies...
Also it's not odd an program throw there part in the appdata folder
It ain't smart most of the time but it isn't bad or dumb
Firefox
Chrome
Minecraft
Old Outlook versions
All throw parts of there data in the %appdata folder
i think the difference is most of these other programs arent effortlessly writing gigs of data every use
Well- that falls under the part of 'it ain't smart but'
im gonna have to clear it daily then i guess
Can't you clean up other space on your PC...
symlink worked fine for m๐ค e
not on my ssd
i have a 250 gig ssd and a 2tb hdd
hence said why i want it on my hdd
!cleancache. I do it daily. You can also do it during a play session if an avatar doesn't load (turns red). Just go into Library and shift click everythinig inside and elete
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
Well then as mic said
If you do the symlink right it should just work fine. Would run a bit slower but that's HDD vs sdd for you
^
i dont generally have loading issues with hdd
(I have 4GB. used to play with 500-1000MB free but something recently caused VRChat to hold onto temporary file handles or something, like video player worlds so I regularly use up all 4GB
I should someday do some testing with Process Explorer and see what temp files it is keeping open that are 2GB big
I've been doing it for years with Garry's Mod (and by extension Source Filmmaker), VRChat and my Unity cache.. So I'm not sure why it's not working for you.
ive been having wierd issues with my pc
so i wont be suprised if i try it again later and it works
Why dont you just play the game and if ur ssd is full then just delete a few things or move them to another drive instead..
Or get a new ssd problem solved
can we get chat lol
Don't we already have that in the game?
it's 2/3 of the name
( as for writing, we have avatars with snail pens which let you draw with your hand. I think it's a very VR-y way to do text chat and quite fun when used properly ). It's a bit of a shame you don't get such control for desktop but you could make an avatar with a pen attached to the neck (or head, accounting for scaling issues) and have it work
@queen mango heres no chat in-game.
Yea.. the reason there's no voice chat here is because it is much harder to moderate through audio compared to text
Looks's like Funland went public.. good.. took ages to get that to optimal perf.
I'm very excited. ^^
hewwo
hello guys i have a little question
how do i know the vrchat runs in desktop mode or vr mode? (since i have changed the windows doesnt matter witch i choose the game looks exactly the same when i join a map, because i see the shape of vr mode on my screen) but before that when i had win8 i could tell the difference when i was choosing vr mode or desktop mode, cus the screen shape would change as well but this time has exactly the same shape for both vr or desktop.
Whenever in ingame, it lags every 8 seconds and sometimes its fine, sometims its not, but its not my pc, if anyone could tell me tips on what to do, that would be fantastic
also when i open chat il use stream to choose witch one to start with.
il just move the question to the user support
@lethal summit I'm not are what you're asking
??
Are you asking how to play in desktop mode?
well i know how to play in desktop mode but it feels like the game doesnt start in desktop mode
its stuck with vr mode
I think, if you double click the game in your library, instead of pushing the green play button, it will ask which mode you want to use
yes
i do that every time but in game looks exactly the same as vr mode
but before reinstalling the windows...
i could tell the difference when the game runs in vrmode or dektop.
Does desktop mode look like vr mode, or, does vr mode look like desktop mode?
desktop look like vr mode.
You need to unplug your vr headset to fully play desktop i guess ?
i dont have any...
Oh wow
I play desktop mode and it looks the same as VR mode, just with different controls
Is VRChat dying?
NO
The game only seem to consists of creeps and people wanting to just run around with memes.
You're hanging out with the wrong people then
Public
And then there's peeps like me who spend all day everyday in unity creating.. your talking about public by the sounds of it
because honestly most of us create release and move onto another project
I don't like going to private lobbies with friends. Sometimes they get too annoying and creepy
Yeah.. you aren't in good company then by the sounds of it.
Idk, VRChat looks dead to me.
@earnest valve then its the vrchat.
Except for the people wanting to bust a VRNut
when i had the old windows every time when i was running the game in vr or desktop there always was a difference between them..
VRChat is the first VR social platform it isnt going anywhere anytime soon.. people may leave and people may be constantly bickering, but thats just the internet in general.
Most of the guys I see left are just those who prefer to just stay in their safe space. Trying to converse with someone new is almost rare in the game since they'll ignore anyone not in their social circle, or if you're not too pushy
I mean, VRChat can be dead with like 100 peeps, but because it's so cheap to keep the game up, it can stick around for awhile
Well.. i use vrchat for the community and its mainly development related as most know i dont get in vrchat really.. i just prefer creation.
Ehhh.... I know people still use VRChat to scam morons
Charging like $500+ for an avatar
Hilariously sad really
Thats not really a scam more down to user stupidity..
same for me
mind you.. people donate silly sums of money to people who stream.. thats worse.
i got once an avatar without dynamic bones.
500 for an avatar? My God
People honestly don't know the real value of their avatar, and creators can use the excuse "My time, and work"
then later a friend gave me the dynamic bones free...
Well i cant speak for them.. and i only do worlds.. but all my content is free to use.. i would never dream of charging anyone.
Plus people making avatars from scratch is easier than you think once you finally get use to it. I;ve made 4 custom avatars for free, bones and all.
500 dollars though? That's ludacris
@zinc solar +1 You're right
@vestal iris The most expensive avatar I've seen was one someone was flexing that cost them $1,200
Special animations and crap
Oh. My. Good. I mean.. creators should get compensation but my goodness
A small donation or something like that for supporting the author's work is awesome.
But 1200$ for a virtual avatar.
That's disgusting
The most I've ever charged for an avatar was $1. I don't like charging people, ever since I bought an avatar for $20 and it was pure crap. I vowed "NEVER AGAIN" learned everything, and started doing free commissions.
Well.. if your a 3d artist and you create just to sell then.. vrchat isn't a wise option because your avatar will get stolen.
im sure people know that
@zinc solar Totally agrees with you.
Avatar shouldn't be something you should pay
but sell them anyways.
I also don't make my avatars "walking advertisements" When a person gets an avatar, I don't put my logo or something to advertise in the thumbnail.
That's useless with the new system anyway
If you honestly have that kind of skill you have a far greater way of making money from linden labs second life.. doing so here with our current exploits is literally a hole in your pocket.
Making your own model is the best anyway
You know what you want on it
right
I work full time and make over 1.2k a week, I'm good on money. I make avatars in my free time since most of the time I'm bored as hell and the only games I have fun on is Sims 4 and they are billions.
@zinc solar Making an avatar for me is a hobby aswell, not a job.
Ehhhh....
I get annoyed with my requests, but I rarely ever decline them. (Most of my requests now are ERP avatars)
Whenever in ingame, it lags every 8 seconds and sometimes its fine, sometims its not, but its not my pc, if anyone could tell me tips on what to do, that would be fantastic
ERP ? ๐
Hmm, i seem to lose money and yet i know i could earn easily out of what i do.. but my options were simply standalone and pay steams 90 bucks feee to host my games.. or to simply release here for the community.. so i chose this option because i would be alone if i released on steam.. i would be the dev the support and more.. thats to much work.
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Yeas, the most recent one I made was all 4 characters of K/DA ERP
@vocal shard Apart from the chances of people buying a fun park vr game on steam being pretty low
Well.. i'm not only talking about VR theme parks.
So people are still doing ERP..
Woah,.. That's not unexpected ๐
It's apparently like 50% of the community.
There are projects i have made that i have never released on vrchat because they are over the top in size.. where as im limited to 490mb here and thats because all my gear gets decimated to hell.
50% ?
I think it's more like 80% or something
Whenever in ingame, it lags every 8 seconds and sometimes its fine, sometims its not, but its not my pc, if anyone could tell me tips on what to do, that would be fantastic
Also Sai i have to say that as for VR theme parks, i turned one of them into a complete sim no different than bullfrogs theme park.. so you actually have an economy buying/selling/repairing/researching etc.. i wanted honestly to go all out but like i said im an indie developer i really haven't got the support of anyone else in what i do so doing this alone and working with people in support would be preety tough.
ive considered making a world of the Starbucks i work at
yeah but thats a lot of work im too lazy to do
Motivation ?
What's that ? ๐
With me its all i do so.. doing so wouldn't be a challenge.. but if you want to build it exactly as it is you would need to remember every detail or have photo's of it to work with
other than that its more tiresom without reference to go on
Clutter?
nah. just a lot back here
hmm so equipment boxes and the like?
mostly cups and lid boxes in the very middle, huge cleaning area. big freezers on both sides, cleaning materials and chemicals in the very back, a desk full of stuff, a small shelf of random objects that you may need, ice bin etc.
Hmm.. doesn't really sound that much of a challenge tbh it sounds more like the placement of those objects
I think.. that i will release some bars.. seeing as i haven't really done so before.. just because it changes things up from the norm
Re-creating spaces must be easier with a photographic memory.
Oh yeah for sure..
I had a friend as a kid who was known to fib, but he told me he was tested for photographic memory. He was really good at making levels.
We used to make Duke Nukem 3D levels together.
I know that doing so off just your own mind is more of a challenge when it comes to placements than anything else.
Classic duke nukem ๐
Before that I made Doom levels but I wasn't as into it. Duke added some nice things.
Too bad I lost interest in that kind of thing by the time 3D engines were actually, y'know... 3D.
Yeah i gotcha.. well.. your not the only one really.. i mean the only reason i started doing this was sheer boredom.. before this i was a gamer all my life.. but then forced myself into development where im now sorta stuck lol
Same and I can't get over learning C# my brain is jello
I used to enjoy the quake engine a ton.. then i got into the unreal community where i was using unreal with ut99 and ut2k4
C# is not too bad. I've been coding professionally since like... 2004 though. Once you learn the basics of coding most new languages are pretty easy.
if i could prevent people from using alternative as in custom avatars.. then a port to a world i have created with skins they can actually be be that red/blue we could have a full implementation of unreal
its honestly avatars that are somewhat of a problem on maps when it comes to alot of people
I just need more control.. not much to ask i reckon
Well, the whole point of VRChat seems to be pretty princess dress-up so removing peoples' avatars might be a big ask but paring down the avatar features for game-focused worlds might be a reasonable ask. Also blocking red avatars.
Well its all on cpu.. and im just thinking that if people honestly want a game experience then having custom avatars is a fine way to increase cpu load.. so eventually the games we are building in vrchat on our worlds will become hard to play.
It would be good to know why VRChat is single threaded to start with. Is that on Unity3D or is it on the SDK? If the SDK, could they use some help making it multi-threaded?
Like... y u slo wen u use only 20% cpu and 10% gpu?! o_O
multi is possible with unity.. but im not at all sure why we only have single support
i mean.. i dont know who's great idea this was.. but seeing as we are in the vr age.. i think this should of took more thinking into honestly.
Well, to be fair, if I had the idea to make VRChat I would use whatever basic skills I had at the time and hammer out something as fast as possible too. ๐
Get a prototype together and try to keep fixing it as I go.
But you're right, that's not a responsible way to make platforms for the general public.
Especially if you're using a platform like Unity you sometimes just trust that the platform itself will help you make informed design decisions but sometimes it doesn't.
Seems that 2019 has support for multi-threading support too
This is good news ๐
Well they're a real game engine. They're used by MANY games you just don't know it.
The people who actually pay for Unity don't advertize the fact they use it all the time.
haha at the hammer out approach. i was thinking then.. yeah we could of just built vrchat worlds with hammer lols
The multi-threading in 2019 is for the WebGL part with is... impressive as heck considering it runs on optimized JS.
I could just create a platform just like VRchat honestly.. all i need is a server and "up to date security"
*which
I have a few friends that were Vrchat users that decided to make their own version of how the world should be in their eyes..
Acutally reading down that release notes page they added a lot of little multi-threading tweaks.
Yeah.. they are pushing people into it.. and with a dam good reason
nowadays processors are all multi so without applying this to games and more we literally have a dead application
I dont fancy downgrading to a single core anytime soon.. besides vr wont like that lol
However... if we can overclock the absolute shit out of a lottery chip.. we could get somewhere with top of the line cooling
I watched a good video about multi-threading percentage of performance gain for certain workloads. For games and ray-tracing which can be massively parallel it's not even 100% and video cards might reach the point soon where we get no benefit from more cores.
(At least for current workloads. I assume resolution will come into play there soon.)
Well.. if thats true then so be it.. because with the way its going.. i dunno.. its becoming stupid
High cores should be used for servers only really just my opinion
but companies are forcing this tech to us
As far as CPU loads we really do need to multi-thread everything as much as possible. There is a lot of waste in that domain.
Well they have to sell us SOMETHING :D
You can't get any more Ghz out of silicon.
If we can somehow have multi thread acting as one single core we would be perfectly fine
i know one way of this..
"multi-threading acting as one single core" Like the cell processor in a PS3. Each cell just hands a task off to the next. Still takes specialized coding though.
processor unloads onto a bridge that channels as one core.. but we are talking a serious flow of data there.. i dont think something like that exists
yeah i guess..
The big problem with multi-threading a workload is that you need to actually be able to break up the task and do it in parallel. It's a whole different way of thinking about problems. Also you have to ensure data gets to the places it needs to be in the right amount of time or cores will just... have... to wait... for it.
VRchat sponsors intel > https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i9-9900K+%40+3.60GHz&id=3334
I imagine the workloads for VRchat are totally possible to do in parallel. But again, making sure all tasks are done in time for a frame to be rendered is a balancing act.
lol
I think that its probably to do with unity build version we used..
and now we are stuck with LTS.. so sooner or later perhaps it will be built with support
Probably. Considering most of that stuff is out of the average Unity3D dev's hands.
Here's where alot of people are heading.. https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/apex-legends-hits-25-million-players-in-a-week-smashing-fortnites-record

for the person that said about vrchat community earlier so.. yeah its why its becoming barren
vrchat "barren" bc vr stil expensiv and not that apealing 2 many as a batle royale or sumting
Nah we have always had a higher number of people with monitors thats nothing new

just people switching it up and going back to gaming as usual
higher num ppl wit floof
so .. fluffy
wooly?
ah like what my bed has been turned into gotcha ๐
Yeah lots of people playing Apex Legends in another Discord I'm in.
dogo
Its like sleeping on a wolf.
Then again I don't know anyone else who plays VRChat IRL or in circles I hang out in online.
Same lil.. tbh idont even do VR anymore
yea cuz u 24/7 make map
i mean it used to be fun but i must admit it got kinda old lol
xdd
more of a gimmick really.. i just cant be asked to wear that on my head it aint very fun being on all the time tbh
Holy crap Techradar... AdBlock: 40 ads blocked
Tech> Do you mind unblocking us? Or you can subscribe.
I like paying people for content they make but like, this is ridiculous. 40 ad calls?
Yeah i told adblock plus that Popup that warned about do you mind blocking us was an ad in itself lmao
The company I work for is no better I think. Maybe better now that we recently rewrote most of our sites but still, ads help pay my wage.
how get treat
i know of another way to get paid.. preety simply actually.. just upload a load of content to a server.. the more downloads you get on the crappy site the more money your paid..
its how people are making asset community's in this by the looks of it
sharing stuff not even owned by them and earning money
Tonight the jester is determined to get more then 3 horn rubs!
Copyright has existed since the early irc days.. no way to stop it
It will be happening tonight.
OTOH, being a creator I've thought about just making a bunch of assets in my free time for the Unity store. Just like... model during my hour of power and try to sell stuff.
@vocal shard Piracy is a fact of life but re-selling someone else's work when they make nothing off of it to start with is a new kind of low.
@heavy dawn hell if it gets you money why worry about it huh? Also seems like a cheap way to make money cause your paying for electricity
That HURTS man.
I've never thought about doing anything like that before.. i mean yeah i need the money sure.. but i look at the store and think hmm.. well.. they have everything what could i possibly make that would appeal to people.. i honestly come up empty
"new kind of low" well not new but a lower, more sinister level of low.
Well lil.. i know more community's that were made based on vrchat and shared assets.. than any other community that exists.. i know all the sites all the mirrors they use and more
i mean seriously.. this could be a large sting operation lol
reminds me of this guy who does nothing but take models from games and even from other, independent modelers and puts them up for download, but forces people to download them by going through sites like adfly first
Oh yeah adfly.. that makes sense
ew... that's desperate. How callous.
I have over 50 assets alone i bought in unity's asset store bakery and the like.. all my stuff is bought..
people keep calling him out for it but he always comes up with some bullshit excuse on how what he's doing is fine 
yet i must admit i have been spending like crazy and now never once in two years have i made money from this.
Fair enough.
I think as a creator all you can do is report when you see it and keep makin' stuff or you'll go nuts.
Everyone needs to generate an income in order to further themselves thats half the trouble.. i never seem to make money and i need to but im lost in space about what to actually create
But especially artists they make shit pay. They live paycheque to paycheque, and here's this fucker taking their work and selling it as their own.
Me, if someone stole my art it wouldn't hurt me much. I am a developer. It'd almost be good to have the exposure.
There's nobody to report this too lil thats half the trouble
it sounds like a jelousy thing in a sense if you cant afford it you download it elsewhere.. but its not at all.. its more along the lines of princible it took someone ages to create like you said shit pay.. and to top if off someones stealing your work and making money out of it by uploading then sharing the mirror with the community.
I think that unity needs some sort of safeguard in place to sorta regulate the way sales are driven.. so each user's purchase has an ID linked to what they have bought.. so if someone decides to share.. then they lose their account its preety simple.
what's goin on? morning btw
Mornin
Good morning! All kinds of things! Good doggos. People who re-sell others work for profit. The lag issues caused by single threaded game engines.
Good morning Dirk
dont forget over hyped hormones.. or is that just me?
@w@ soft paws
Now I'm just imagining someone using a model with big floofy hair.
shoom
Haha... my friends parents bred samoyeds and there's nothing quite like a bunch of big floofy goofballs all excited to see you.
my doggo is a big floofer.
me 2
VRChat world idea... a bunch of floofy dogs follow you around and bork. There are sticks to throw (or fake throwing... :O)
to easy to create no challenge.. lol
Can you make NPCs follow the player characters around? How much logic can you use?
wat about makin dis https://youtu.be/QdtvKJzmB68?t=3
I've never seen it.
Honestly so many worlds use such limited interaction I just assumed hotspots and static models were all you had.
Those are all world prefabs shared and released by creators here.
no
Look for Fionna's pets.
u can abuse stuf like sliders
if u go 2 murder map under the loby is just this huge logic switch thing
I honestly have never had the murder map be anything other than people constantly hitting reset. ๐
Like 2 seconds of gameplay and you're back at the lobby.
That's because you need a friends only instance lol
Frands? Wut frands? ๐คฃ
oof
i dunno i have like 400 peeps as friends and i dont know like 90% of them
lol
O O F my nex clas in 4 hrs bc stoopid teacher say 8 am clas canceled at 6 am
Who does classes at 6:00am? that sounds a slight tad early
oof same. people will join on me and I'm like "oh fuck I don't remember you"
no
oh wait i read that wrong lol
clas at 8 am
yeah i see ๐
living the dream wulfe
trying 2 remembr wat i already calld ruuubic
Just me or the server is down?
@stone current you don't abuse sliders, you eat them
i thincc i cald him roblox, runescape, rubix, rubs, ruby
naaaaaaaass
is the server down or something?
rubix cube
down 4 me
i can't get in
If it isn't the cutest shark around
Server flopping,
when vrcat breaks suddenly the chat swarms with 100 users
Look how active the chat becomes when people cant use vrchat lols
what else :p
When they started scheduling classes via computer instead of based on what the department head wanted was when comp-sci classes started being all over the day/week instead of all in the afternoon at the beginning of the week for me.
Yes u did but u stole my fluffy thoughts
The ability to pick your own class schedule in highschool can be abused to give yourself a whole afternoon off if you're lucky ๐
I dont remember that far back.. kids these days..
damn kids and their hoverboards
fixin my flux capacitor.
haha nice
I always found it weird that people didn't have snapshot memories of early childhood stuff because I sure do. Of course I don't remember being like... 0-2.5 or 3. Everyone's brain works a little differently I guess.
I'm not a bean
are u sure nass
nassachichi
@vocal shard That might be neat. For the theme park? Maybe someone to run some of the rides or something.
It shouldn't be only about avatars on a map.. i think having just basic npc's to interact with would make it
dogo quests and avatars
Also like... a squirrel who runs down from a tree sometimes, looks around, and runs back up.
Yeah thats the plan lil
quest: b0rk
talk 2 legendary b0rk boye
reward: floof
Nassachichi London
Oh animals.. yeah thats preety cinch i suppose.. ... i have an idea
I wanna learn map making and make a world for a location in the game im workin on slowly. i wanna learn how to make interactive NPCs. to am extent anyways
same
full day/night cycle with animation events that trigger when sun is coming up and sun is going down.
^ yeah I thought about that one too
Basically remake Harvest Moon in VRC
day/nite is aids w/o realtime lite sometiems
OoO
yo that'd be lit
I know but i have a bake with a simulation directional light thanks to bakery..
and it works without any lag at all
remake when harvest moon rapd de city
there is also a lightmap switcher but dont think vrchat supports it as in whitelist
sadness
working on v2 now.. people will be lucky if they can start playing v1 finding easter eggs and more with the amount of updates i do lol
The last funland had 18 versions of it alone before i could get no more in.. thats part of why it weighed so much
oh dope
Yeah just gotta be abit more careful with this version.. i mean the last was absolutely massive so wanna build but be as optimal as i can so draw calls are low.. i bypass on shadow casters reflections.. anything really make it as sandbox as possible
the lighter the load the more i can fit in
yup
Do you know the new map "HOUSE IN NIGHTMARE Chap.1"? @ruby owl
no i pretty much just started playing this game today
I'm gonna connect in a few mins, first i need to eat something
Add me on VRChat if you want
shore
oh shit a newbie. welcome my guy
xd

Anyone here mainly use the oculus client instead of steam? (But have used both) Iโve got a question for you.
i use steam library to launch vrchat in steam vr to put my play time hours up
Iโm seeing the nearclip being much, much closer on oculus home (hands / upper chest vanishing when close to face) on oculus client only. You seeing anything like this
@rocky blaze can then just as good use a third party program to log time
Oculus on steam client works fine so itโs the client rather than the headset
but why bother another program
Is there a way to use the oculus SDK on the steam client instead? To avoid oculus store versionโs bugs ?
why why cant i join the great pug without crashing, ive tried everything hElp ME
Try turning shaders and everything off
for so long im getting crazy
its not shaders its the worlds, i turned off everything reset, did whatever they asked but WHY why must the new update RUIN my vrchat !
@vocal shard tried all stuff within #user-support-old
More meant cleaning cache and stuff...
yup that too
try a clean reinstall and clean up your cache
Maybe your computer just hates the game
OHMYGOF
Yes?
only thing these hands are good for are rubbin my temples when I get a migraine lol
OOF #denied
Iโll take the touchies tonight though!
I only got like 3 yesterday...
I usually get at least 7 a night
Someone here yesterday was telling me how easy it would be to literally import a Sans model from TMR and put a Mario hat on him. Is the dude here right now?
I got Unity, Blender, etc. I'm trying to figure out who told me cause I'm tryin to figure this out.
I'm here, but I'm at work so I may not give timely responses
You probably spoke to someone who was playing with unity for years man. Case flying planes is easy! Iโve been only doing it for 4 years
Cause*
@floral aspen Well. I have both models downloaded. They both come from the Model Resource.
and Rick we're just talking about putting a hat on an avatar. Don't need years of experience for that
Unless it's somethings with all bones and ECT ready to do it ain't that easy
i need help
If it does.
Google could help enough already and else someone in #avatars-2-general
im trying to link my vrchat account with my steam
but idk where to go to get my token link thingy
like im on the vrchat client but idk what i do lol
Log into ya steam account, settings and then lower right
I mean, @umbral reef it does have bones apparently. At least the Sans model I'm using does. It's fully rigged, etc.
ok
@vocal shardthen you should be able to handle it by looking up "vrchat merging avatars" or "vrchat adding objectes to avatars"
It should be all done (the combining) within blender.
Well, the problem is also putting it onto VR Chat.
I'm also trying to figure out how I could add an image to the avatar. I heard that has to do be done on the texture itself though.
yeah, you'll have to edit textures for that
There are other tutorials for that
But if it's ya first time
Just upload the sans model and nothing extra
That seems easily doable. It's just a blu demoman logo I was going to put on the hoodie.
Well, I tried to do a test run of just the model and so far the tutorials really aren't necessarily helping me with that.
I just learned blender and unity 4 months ago and putting a hat on a model is ez bones
Follow tuppers tutorial
Don't skip things and you should be able to upload the basic sans model at least.
Which specific tutorial because the dude only has like twenty of them with different sitautions and dated ones at that.
What do you mean by add an image to the avatar?
I mean, if it's already rigged you pretty much just have to:
- Set Rig to Humanoid and make sure upper chest isn't mapped to anything
- Add avatar descriptor
- Upload
In my experience you can map upper chest now, have been able to for quite some time
@languid beacon I'm trying to put a Blu Team Demoman logo on the Sans hoodie area like a patch.
Since when Adeon?
Yeah you just add it to the hoodie texture
And I've been told by everyone here 30 dollars for the avatar is a bit insane.
Since... pre 2018 update at least
Which I'm starting to agree with since most of these seem like they can be done in about twenty minutes.
$30 for putting a hat on an avatar is insane
And resizing it with the image added on?
It is but the learning process will take most of your time
Keep texture same size just past logo on the texture at the correct spot
my first model took 7 hours but thats because im stupid xD
And now I can weighpaint and im proud
yeah, you just just open the texture in photoshop, add the logo in a new layer and your done
Do I take the file out of the rar to do that though?
I mean you need to know how to use photoshop / gimp type image editing software but that skill is more common
yes, extract the rar
The texture files tend to come with the model
If someone wants 30 bucks for that same them for scamming you
That's at best a 10 Euro job (only the material swapping)
Adding the hat should imo also be included with that price even
take everything out of the rar
Yeah thats how textures work
Yeah youโll need to look at the uvโs in blender to know where to put your logo
yeah, they don't necessarily look like the object they are placed on
I just draw a circle on the model with the texture paint tool and then see where the circle ended up on the texture
Yeah. They also make free UV textures with numbers so it's easier to tell.
Did anyone happen to see my question about dynamic bones?
Sadly blender does not have cut and paste image editing I wish blender and gimp could fuse
not sure if im up to date on this stuff but is anyone else having issues singing in
Adeon, do you mind at one point if I hit you up or @floral aspen in a personal message system to fully get this done with. Honestly, I want to be done with it. The guy got the first half of my money and I feel like shit getting really scumed out of the rest because he's taking the easy path.
The Mario Hat he used doesn't fit the model. The model he used was one that was made on a site for downloading and literally just putting it into Unity with no effort. And he used the wrong logo. Now I'm starting to feel a bit fucked over, lol. As I should.
Also might be smart to move to #avatars-2-general so you guys can also post photos and stuff
And some other peeps who know how it works might be able to help then
I always post it in there but it's always dead as all hell.
@vocal shard you payed via PayPal? If so refund the order because fuck this lazy scum and call him out
He can keep the first half. I honestly don't care because he already put together /something/. But honestly, if I can do this the way I want he's not getting the rest.
(not here but in vrctraders discord)
At least review him then for half the work he did and it's price in that discord
Bad avatar creators should not be allowed to abuse new users in this community
This was a little fun passion project, lol. I got done playing Undertale like a month ago and it made me extremely happy. Mario has been my favorite game character so I thought it'd be fun to just put a hat on him. TF2 is my favorite game and has been for about 11 [?] years now so I wanted to add that on it.
He at first wanted to charge me 50 dollars for it.
I just started playing VR Chat about a week ago too.
But yeah, if anyone can shoot me a message. I have the rig opened on blender and I can view all of it.
or not
The model looks great.
Yeah that guy is either scamming or legit thinks what heโs doing is crazy complex professional work
its scamming
Its a big thing within the 'creator' community
Unless he made the model himself, then 50 is a good deal for a original commission . But itโs probably the same mmd sans everyone uses so
My main account is GoopyHat45, which I joined on February 1, 2017
My original account was deleted due to non-use ๐ฆ
Do a chargeback on the money you gave him and do it yourself
it is just me or the avatars and maps are not downloading anymore in vrchat?
or they download with somewhere around 10kb/sec?
Put it into Blender, use CATS to merge the hat to the avatar, use the arrow keys to position it right. You might need to scale it too (press S then x,y or z depending on the axis you want to scale on)
You'll need to weightpaint it, but just make it all 100%. In weightpaint mode you press the head bone and then paint the hat entirely red.
Export. You've now saved 50$
avatar or maps in vrchat are extremely slowly when downloading...
woof
My dm's are so fire discord cant handle it ๐ฅ
onli if recieve pat
Hmmm, seems like a harsh trade.
what a career choice
@peak glacier already tried it donโt have the voice for it.
Also if you become good at it hit me up jester wouldent mind learning
#imstraightiswear
Ay! Jester needs itโs contacts. Also, wanna touch my horns vortex? Iโll be on later tonight
woof
Birk
whats that mean lol
My edits wonโt go through... REEEEE
wow rude
Ya just touch my horns!
(started playing vrchat a couple days ago because people said its good mtf voice practice)
and gib pats
deadass hurts hearing myself try to sound like a girl lmao
Yooo I fucking know.
just screech and say im not a trap
And in the mist of it, itโs like โIโm so blatantly obviousโ
i hab good trap voice
it not rlly like anime waifu trap voice
but is legit fem voice lmao
i want to stay away from "soft, high pitched loli"
Reeeee why yโall so damn lucky!
because i mean irl nobody sounds like that
Peoples avatars are still red and I just cleared my cache
i was trappin some1 not part of friends as a joke
and i told them "hey bb i got something 2 tell u"
and said "i hab pp" in reg voice
I wanna do it to watch my friends fucking squirm in their shoes
they ded
my friends would probably fuckin screech at me and mute me
So far they already do but if I can pull it off@clear zealotmn good.
lmao
They will wanna kill themselves
just get friends 2 call u she
Eh, I wanna do it for memes, not to trap people
lol ther was room only boye in it and they said they kicking all gurl out
bc it was like a place with pillows
and there was a boy fort and gurl fort
and i walk in and say "hiiiii boooyyes" in seductiv fem voice
That boy fort is gonna@be full
and they ran
Lol come on man, women have kooties

Woof motherfucking

Woof Bork?
hello 
Whatโs good?
henlo
i'm new to the vrchat community so i thought why not start here!
Well welcome to VRchat and this community ;p
If you want to know anything there are plenty of qties here to help you out on your way
Ima get virtual horn touchies!
@cursive skiff def poor
Oof damn well... cant make the new guys give me horn pats
@Rickthebanana#7114 lewd
NO IS NOT I SWEAR even tho it is in game what? Just trying to cover my ass!
I donโt know what your saying.
Smh
SHUT IT
smH
@vocal shard touch my horns!
Lewd
Didnโt hear a no though~
Oh my..
He was referring to the protrusions on the sides of his head
Not umm.. there
@cursive skiff i never said no. I just said lewd
#general-media please
mAYBE TODAY I WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY WITH PPL
hm
they're probably having network issues
I HAVE TO DOWNLOAD IT AGAIN WTF STEAM
I JUST WANT TO PLAY SOME DAMN VRCHAT
Rekt
you might need to calm down a little there
Do you have hands? Or are you a poor bastard? If your poor, vrchat just isnt as good as it could be thats my view
Woah man.. gotta chillax there
i mean you're not wrong but thats a rude way to put it
the way i see it if you have a shitty pc, you shouldn't even play the fuckin game cuz dynamic bones can lag people and almost everyone has atleast one dynamic bone on their model
whats the problem where my game kept on staying at loggin in as my username and it never loads
define poor. most people (unless they have the cash to waste) probably wouldn't drop a lot on a VR. and I mean, anyone can play it. shitty or not.
Iโm playing desktop mode
On a keyboard
And the pc is meant to be a gaming pc, itโs just the WiFi router is all the way across the house so the WiFi is shitty
ah
Itโs only about 2 or 3 years old
aha, there's your problem
Itโs having problems already at 2 or 3? My dad has a fully working work pc thatโs about my age lol
y so trigrd


wouf
Man this is probably the second day in the row I've seen someone use allcaps
I use all caps a lot especially when Iโm excitedly screaming at a friend
Or calling them an uneducated donut
Ah. I see
S H U S H
like that
also i just realised when you try to enter something during a slowmode cooldown, the window moves rapidly
Oofies
i just now noticed that
VRChat just stopped downloading argh
STEAM I HAVE AN INTERNET CONNECTION
STOP SAYING OTHERWISE

There
feelsbad
We good homies
press Ctrl+/ and type in h h -> n k
H E Y S I S T E R S
hey woofers
H I T O R M I S S
why tho
i read the manga occasionally
what did I miss?
Both anime (Japanese without subs) and manga (in English because I can't find the JP version) @earnest valve
I just don't like dubs, especially if the voices are just trying to emulate the Japanese voice and it's a straight translation from Japanese.
I met someone who was REALLY into my avatar when I went on to try it out ^-^
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Also: Making my own home world that's really low poly and < 10MB is great. Loading into VRchat is instant.
That's dope lilith
Oh I though the dynamic bone collider went on the same thing as the dynamic bone but it needs to go on other things you want it to collide with. Makes sense.
Hmm, doesn't seem to work still. ๐
Put the colliders on the hands and dynamic bone hair. No effect.
Oh, I made the collider bigger and it actually does work.
๐ Nice people were on.
Not much ^^
Just got off work
oh hell yeah
How about you?
im trying out that apex legends game. its meh so far lol
Ah. Lol
I haven't tried it yet
it sure is a thing, lol
@solid fiber I saw that ๐ hi ^^







