#vrchat-general-2

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long venture
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well I guess they have to monitor the amount of people from the said category so when it gets too big they will make a channel

or one could do a suggestion perhaps

queen mango
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I guess they could.. but as it stands, I'm the only active Filipino in chat

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Or maybe there are others more but are not comfortable or familiar with English

safe prism
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people call me filipino just for existing in manila for any amount of time

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xd

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even though i'm white as white gets

queen mango
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Living in the city can give off a bit of citizen vibe to some people

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But umm.. let's move this over to #general-media before Ruubick whips us

long venture
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I used to play rubick
it was pretty fun

vocal shard
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Hi

long venture
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Hoi there GWunuWakaOK

vocal shard
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:D Wassup!

surreal canyon
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Hello

queen mango
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Hi there ‾w‾

surreal canyon
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C:

vocal shard
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T~T i keep timing out

surreal canyon
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Okie

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Im gonna try and make a profile picture from gachaverse

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So o will be back

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I*

molten hornet
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i REALLY hate crashers

queen mango
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Crikey.. something happen there?

surreal canyon
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Im back

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Dis my new back ground

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I feel like everyone is asleep

queen mango
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It's almost afternoon over here

surreal canyon
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Oh at mine Its 10:28 pm

queen mango
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Oof.. timezones

surreal canyon
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I thought times would be the same forever

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Xd

queen mango
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Not really.. different parts of the world are under different timezones

surreal canyon
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Ok

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I never knew that thank u for telling me

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Now it just gonna be silence again i think

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Ok ima play roblox

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I cant talk in public chat idk why

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Nvm

vocal shard
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So uh

surreal canyon
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?

vocal shard
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Im currently recording, and somebody keeps crashing me. Just cause I muted somebody who kept yelling that im a furry just cause I have "Wolf" in my name. And she currently just crashed me again.

surreal canyon
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OH

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Idk wat to say now

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Report then

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Idk

umbral oracle
vocal shard
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oh im recording this, but Im trying tyo get more proof of it.

surreal canyon
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Ok

vocal shard
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"Switch worlds", yea let me just leave her alone and let her take action towards others. No thanks.

umbral oracle
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!outputlog The output log is the proof. Keep a copy after crashing before restarting vrchat

floral flaxBOT
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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt

vocal shard
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Where shal I post that.

umbral oracle
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Actually that's exactly what you should do. Some people want attention. If the streamer goes away they lose the attention and get bored

surreal canyon
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i never get to help

umbral oracle
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Needs to be emailed for them to take action

stone current
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does output log store stuff like particle and shader info

queen mango
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@surreal canyon It's okay.. Everyone used to have that kind of feeling the first time around

surreal canyon
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Ok

long venture
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I openly had someone walk to my face and said
I'm gonna clap you

While I just stare and giggled cuz I have animations disabled

queen mango
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Then they managed to clap you because of hidden shaders

long venture
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I find it odd like during the secondary loading phase

even if you have animations and particles disabled

they tend to go thru for a few sec

vocal shard
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@umbral oracle Since you seem like a smart individual.
how does a crasher work? Do they change avatars to successfully do the crash?
Cause I guess it was somebody else, the person I muted for him literally yelling that im a furry.

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If it wasnt the person who changed to whatever in front of me as a distraction so "ample" Could crash me, well I kinda fell into that trap.

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But what are others way they can crash you, like other possibilities. I dont mean dossing, I mean avatar wise, all I know is in one of the videos I recorded just a bit ago

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He respawned after I was shaking my characters head ingame,

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and then I crashed. but at the same time the other person who I thought crashed me, said "Hold on sneaky" (her friend), next thing I crash.

earnest harbor
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that's not a topic to go into detail with in here

vocal shard
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VrChat.

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@earnest harbor Just read the rules, I dont see whats missing for me to not type here about that.

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Im just trying to understand who the crasher was. Thats p much it.

umbral oracle
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Crashes can just be extreme lag spikes, memory leaks or bugs in the game. More often than not, it's literally just one of thosr things. My game will crash around once per session just through normal usage. However sometimes a user can cause severe lag or discomfort to a player using visual effects or other means. Sometimes crashes are caused by users exploiting bugs in the game's code or networking protocol.

However it happened, bug or intentional, crashes are benign and usually it's just a matter of double clicking vrchat again and finding another world to join.

vocal shard
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Thanks for elaborating.

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sending an email anyways.

umbral oracle
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Yes if a user is being malicious, sending an email will help

little river
stone current
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my floof get all squoshed

queen mango
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Haven't had a VR headset yet, so I haven't experienced that yet

surreal canyon
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I used a vr head set i think

modern sand
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You think ?

indigo fern
little river
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🤔

queen mango
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🤔

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I doubt you.

vocal shard
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hey... it could have been an AR headset tohruShrug

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lol

raven mulch
stone current
vocal shard
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hello, i am new to this server

covert linden
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Also hey

vocal shard
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welcome

stone current
worthy shadow
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hi guys 😃 you might know me from my world, The Lasagna Lounge. I'm currently looking at some old versions of the map and I've realised that there might be a possibility of reintroducing the old version, The Grand Lasagna. How many of you guys would be interested in me rebuilding The Grand Lasagna? It would take quite a while as the old project was broken with the 2017 Unity update but I'm willing to jump back in and resurrect it if there's enough interest.

stone current
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was it the map where u could fly glitch to spawn from a giant lasagna planet thing

worthy shadow
vocal shard
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There is in fact a Sentient Lasagna here oh boy

glass spire
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Does VRchat have its own client?

vague hemlock
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? what do you mean @glass spire

glass spire
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@vague hemlock like does it have its own software to run the game. or do i need to open it through steam

vocal shard
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Guys help

vague hemlock
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You can run it separate from steam

vocal shard
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12 fucking hours of VRChat nonstop today

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I need help

vague hemlock
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But it will use either steamvr or oculus

vocal shard
vague hemlock
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Or neither if in desktop mode

glass spire
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@vague hemlock ah ha. thank you

vague hemlock
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Its best to run it through steam or oculus store as it will promt you to launch in vr or desktop wesmart

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@vocal shard welcome to the matrix smug

glass spire
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woohoo!

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im getting a VR headset

vocal shard
glass spire
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cant afford it

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good start then

vocal shard
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Literally same but I will be able to in 28 days

queen mango
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That'll be my priority after I save up for my PC first

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It'll take long

prime coral
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I could possibly maybe afford the rift but I've keep being told it's not good compared to vive so I feel like meh should skip then. vrpill

vocal shard
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I hear Rift has better controllers than Vive, & from what I've seen theres more reason to get it Blobcat_Tableflip

prime coral
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I hear vive has more immersion and 360 feeling than rift

vocal shard
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All preference, but the fact that Oculus has better controllers is well.. A fact

prime coral
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  • clearer picture
umbral reef
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They are for Vrchat tbh the same and the oculus might be better because of the controls

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For other things its really a question of space and budget

vocal shard
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Always can get a 3rd lighthouse if you need it for Oculus

prime coral
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lighthouse? cuppThink

umbral reef
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Also if you ever want proper Full body tracking you need vive tbh

queen mango
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Proprietary trackers, for Vive at least..

vocal shard
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Also Oculus sensors seem to be better quality than Vive.. Vive seem to break fairly easily from what I've heard

cold talon
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Huh, I have oculus as full play area with only 2 cameras, and it works pretty solid

prime coral
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Full body tracking + vive would be way too expensive so meh

tiny ginkgo
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We should compile this stuff in a faq..

umbral oracle
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vive sensors never had trouble. vive controllers have some defects like the trackpad though some are not too hard to repair yourself.

vocal shard
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Even 360? @cold talon

cold talon
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Mhm

vocal shard
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

floral flaxBOT
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┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

cold talon
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No problem whatsoever

umbral reef
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But the lighthouses go for a larger bigger range and dont need an USB port, just power.
The oculus does need aces to the computer with there lighthouse versions

queen mango
prime coral
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anyone that has the rift and enjoys it I can ask some questions to?

umbral oracle
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3 trackers + full vive is not too much worse than oculus + vive lighthouses + 3 trackers

vocal shard
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Or get WMR and be unable to put your hands anywhere but in front of you mmspin

queen mango
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Pretty sure the Kinect would be the poor man's FBT solution.

umbral reef
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Also for the oculus to get proepr 360 you need to buy an extra camera but its still cheaper then vive in the end

but you are supporting facebookVR what is the worse scum within the VR gaming community

queen mango
vocal shard
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you can put your hands behind you with wmr. why do you keep saying that?

queen mango
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Celes.. you're gettin a whippin'

umbral oracle
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and yes, vive supports competition to the facebook monopoly.

cold talon
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Having oculus controllers whit vive fbt would be perfection

umbral oracle
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knuckles and pimax are coming out this year so that will be much better situation then

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though not until like Q3 or something

vocal shard
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Probably going to cost an arm & a leg though

umbral reef
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Tbh its legit WMR + Vive + Anything else VR VS FacebookVR

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I wont call it Oculus anymore because it isnt- Its FacebookVR

prime coral
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I dont know about everywhere else but in my country the vive is 300 euro more than rift. vrpill

queen mango
cold talon
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Same here

queen mango
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Damn, that's crazy

umbral reef
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_ New deal! We give you 20 euro but you allow us to install mallware so we can track your camera, use your microphone and even get all tracking information + all pc information from you_

fathom girder
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Hello there

umbral reef
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Ow wait thats only for phones not vr~ My bad~

umbral oracle
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ya they want a closed platform--just look how they try to make oculus "exclusives"--but they are forced to allow steamvr for now because of the content. it will be a sad day if oculus goes full walled garden.

vocal shard
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Oculus Quest isn't something I'd want to begin with due to its low performance

cold talon
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Malware hell yes PogOmega

queen mango
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But it ain't bad compared to the price in PH.
They go up to like 30,000 pesos more than Oculus

umbral reef
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@umbral oracle They are paying for release exclusives

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So not really

umbral oracle
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they have billions in facebook ad revenue to fund whatever they want and squeeze out the competiton

umbral reef
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But tbh- There are billion of good smaller Vr games out there already

umbral oracle
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they can just keep lowering the price of the oculus until people choose it over vive

queen mango
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Now, if only Oculus makes their own FBT solution

vocal shard
umbral reef
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Well they are going for phone VR so...
Lets hope it flops bigtime while other companies then vive go the Pc version

umbral oracle
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they do care about mass market stuff too much. I think they expect pose estimation ML algorithms will do the job of FBT in the future so they probably don't care much right now

queen mango
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Phone VR vrpill

cold talon
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That would be dope, but there are no plans for that

prime coral
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Is VR ok to buy used?

vocal shard
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are touch controller working alright in vrchat? thinking of buying them

queen mango
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Don't ever remind me of those VRBox shells vrpill vrpill

vocal shard
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Okay pal @vocal shard

umbral oracle
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touch controllers are the best at the moment from what I hear

vocal shard
umbral reef
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@prime coral Depends- If its in proper condition why not. Just make sure to clear the foam and ect really good...

vocal shard
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oh cool, i figured most have vive

umbral oracle
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vive is better if you want tracking quality and full body

vocal shard
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gotcha

prime coral
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@umbral reef because of germs?

umbral oracle
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so it's kind of do you prefer best hand controllers or best overall system and going against The ZuckerMan

umbral reef
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Big time yes- You sweateasy in Vr with everyone thinking its a fitness machine instead of a relax thing (Beatsaber VS puzzle games)

queen mango
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Or support Bill Gates in his VR ventures

vocal shard
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i just wanna headpat some lolis not go against capitalism

queen mango
umbral reef
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So unless you want other peeps there germs, filth and sweat on you id suggest cleaning it

prime coral
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germs ew cuppPanic

cold talon
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Just get one headset for each person

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Woops sorry for the ping

umbral reef
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@vocal shard Main thing is- You lock yourself out of smaller upgrades and if you ever want more you will need to buy everything new and fresh
Unlike with the vive that is building a system where other companies can release products and make them work together or upgrade lose parts.

queen mango
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But that would raise the price too much now.

cold talon
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Fat fingers LUL

vocal shard
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@umbral reef yea i know but i got the rift already just not controllers

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do touch controllers detect how many fingers are on the controller?

umbral reef
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There is a clear reason why the price is low-
I dont get why no one talks just about the headset tech (tracking, FOV and ect)
Instead of also talking about the infrastucture, addons, bonus things.

umbral oracle
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to get anything other than rift controllers you will need either a different headset or vive lighthouses

queen mango
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@vocal shard And I don't think any of the three controllers from HTC, Oculus and WMR have finger detection

cold talon
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But the vive accessories are so dam expensive too

queen mango
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So far, only Steam Knuckles

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Afaik...

vocal shard
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oh i see. bummer

queen mango
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It's still new tech, so there are gonna be some shortcomings

umbral reef
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@cold talon Keep in mind- the first phones where also expensive as shit same for computers
you dont support apple products right because of there closed economy, high prices and ect now? Compare them to the old apple you and gotthe perfect Oculus example with facebook (instead its already going fucked insteads of years after)

vocal shard
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so people who move their fingers naturally have the knuckles

cold talon
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Well oculus has a very limited finger detection for opening hand, pointing and thumb

vocal shard
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@cold talon by pressing a button or?

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touch... hance the name

tiny ginkgo
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They detect both presses and touch

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It takes a bit to get used to it, but it works really well

rough pulsar
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Knuckles aren't fully support in vrchat yet. Probably because... Eh I have no idea.

vocal shard
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ye sadly marketing doesnt always translate into reality jamie haha

prime coral
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is it possible to see difference between a rift user vs vive user in vrchat?

vocal shard
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depends on their settup

tiny ginkgo
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Hmm, I don't think so if you are just chilling around and talking..

cold talon
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Well using the wands seems a little less intuitive

umbral reef
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@rough pulsar They arent on the open market yet are they? So why would they be fully supported already instead of refining it for when they get released

rough pulsar
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Rift users are more likely to t-rex than vive.

prime coral
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t-rex?

queen mango
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T-rexing 🤔

cold talon
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kneeco trex

queen mango
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sounds like a metaphorical term for going extinct

vocal shard
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arms in front, if they don't have tracking set up for full 360

rough pulsar
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A distinct hand/arm pose when sat down in VR

umbral reef
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Wait does oculus support Macs?

queen mango
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Oh, right.

rough pulsar
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Not that I know of

cold talon
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Well rip makkles than

umbral reef
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Doubt it ever will with the Apple V Facebook beef happening in the background anyway

queen mango
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Your observations may be correct, Gallium.. I've also seen more Oculus users having t-rex.

rough pulsar
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There's about two macs with enough gpu power to run vr anyway

queen mango
vocal shard
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does the touch tracker need a USB3.0?

queen mango
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A Mac running VR? That's unheard of

vocal shard
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i think im out of USB port god damnit

rough pulsar
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Steamvr & vive work on Mac OS

cold talon
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Uh one usb3 and one usb 2

vocal shard
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just for the controllers?

umbral reef
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Still- For future support-
Im FAR from an apple fan but im not a retard, i hate for a reason.

cold talon
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Not sure but I think usb3 for the camera traking the headset and 2 for the hands, but take it with a huge grain of salt

umbral reef
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Its not like VR is still in its early stages and there is tech out there to reduce the calculating power needed that can be implemented

rough pulsar
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I like mac os because it's got a decent ui with unix underneath

queen mango
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Three mods in chat 👀

umbral reef
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Mac OS is neat for the every day human
But the thing is- You gotta fully invest in apple or not at all tbh.

But thats #general-media

vocal shard
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@cold talon thanks. gonna check if i got free ports left before buying

umbral reef
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3? @queen mango Who then?

queen mango
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Jamie, Gallium, Lycon

odd lava
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I cannot find words to express how much I do not like iOS, and overpriced and extremely underpowered hardware if apple

umbral reef
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Ow didnt even notice Lyncon was a chatmod lmao

rough pulsar
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The vive runs off just one usb 2.0 port, btw. (and hdmi)

umbral reef
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@odd lava Then you dislike the product, no the iOS

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I wont say i hate windows because my pc is shit :X

cold talon
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On oculus I observed that one camera is like a master and one slave, as if you move the master the whole playspace moves with it the other can be repositioned at any time, but if you got both in usb3 it will change betwen them, probably to the one that is more stable

queen mango
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Which is why I have been tryna convince my Mum to change phones..

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She's been using iPhone for 7 years now

odd lava
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I have to use iOS sometimes and it is very bad experience

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Or macOS

prime coral
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Aw wait rift has bunch of usb stuff? I have 1 free lel

vocal shard
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interesting bahka

rough pulsar
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So glad I ditched ios for Sailfish OS

umbral reef
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Tbh i love to use iOS products.
Not when i gotta install or change anything. But its really simple to use most of the time.
Ofc when you try it out for the first time its odd but Duhh . Try jumping into any Linux distro for the first time.

vocal shard
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hating on apple is so 2018

queen mango
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Never would I want to fathom having to use an Apple product, ever

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Android and Windows are the ways to go

vocal shard
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macbooks pro from couple years ago when they still sold matte displays was peak laptop. js.

umbral reef
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And the main perk iOS has over other products.
Almost everything is natively within there programs, want to use cloud? Ezpz, want to edit things? Ezpz and so on.
Also the fact they got native tools to help deaf/semi blind people on there products is amazing

vocal shard
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miss me with that plastic stuff

odd lava
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Moreover I do not think supporting walled garden environment is good

umbral reef
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There tech is laughable bad though- Thermal throttling, connectors blowing up instead of anything else that should protect that, cheap screen connectors what cause the screen to fully break and need a 300 euro replacement instead of just a 30 for a cable...

queen mango
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And bendable phones

umbral reef
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That also 😂

queen mango
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Somehow, iPhone 6 had a sharper drop in durability compared to iPhone 5

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Plus.. The damn screens

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They break like regular glass

umbral reef
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Or being unable to replace a screen unless you remove everything and that takes heat guns, special screws and more odd tools no normal person has...

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Looking at you also Samsung

rough pulsar
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There's just a few things stopping me going full Linux for everything

twin jacinth
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CashGrabbERZ

vocal shard
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yea i dont care about phones at all until they bring one out that doest shatter when i drop it.

rough pulsar
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VR being one of them.

vocal shard
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all phones are boring.

umbral reef
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@rough pulsar 10 more years and everything from VR to work inviorments to higher end tech products will support it

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Like fully support it and not half assed like now

odd lava
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I heard it 10 years a go;)

umbral oracle
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I dunno, the repair shops got pretty good at fixing that generation of phones. Even easier than android phone hardware. One of the shops got my iphone 6 apart and back together in like 10 minutes

umbral reef
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The company i work at for example already makes there programs work for Linux fully- Its a important thing for long therm support.
Windows can yeet there support for something and everyone is out of luck. Linux? Someone can find a fix for it instead.

rough pulsar
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10 more years of having to put up with Windows and its arbitrary bullshit woohoo.

vocal shard
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yea and the replace screens they put into the phones are almost as good as the originals

umbral reef
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@odd lava Its already insanely well made and for most users its no difference in using windows or linux

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Its when you start doing the more odd things you run instantly into trouble

rough pulsar
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Yeah, I try to use as much open source software as possible for that exact reason. Shit breaks, I can at least try fix it myself

umbral oracle
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It's going to be worse in 10 years as $texh_monopoly1 and $tech_monopoly2 control their respective markets locking competition out entirely

umbral reef
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There is an alternative though Lyuma...
People are slowly getting sick of apple with there bullshit, people notice linux can be made just as smooth as Apple stuff and dummy proof what is effective for companies...

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The first software thing we learn in my school for Innovation is how to dual boot windows and a Linux distro 👀

umbral oracle
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Using open source software for everything was my dream once upon a time but these days tech is moving too fast to do that on everything. Sure for traditional desktop or laptop hardware

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But try getting a decently working phone on open source software. Even vr headsets like vive have tons of closed firmware or drivers inside

umbral reef
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Tech is already moving too fast- There are so many exploits in any program its insane... Windows cant fight that meanwhile with linux the dude learning about the problem can instantly suggest a Fix...

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Vive can be pulled wide open though with some magic 👀

umbral oracle
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Also I have a much bigger issue with closed ecosystem than closed source. Like windows is closed source but you can customize the OS inside and out and do practically anything with your hardware on top of the os

umbral reef
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Windows closed economy?

umbral oracle
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And vive is largely that way too compared to oculus

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Windows (at least pre-10) is hardly closed any more. Just look at Wine and the Proton emulation valve worked on

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OTOH you can get open source + closed ecosystem which is what Google made out of Android.

rough pulsar
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If you wanna see wine taken to the weird extreme, look at ReactOS.

umbral oracle
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The os is open but they now not only suggest but require apps to hook into closed source Google Play Services apis to do basic phone functions

umbral reef
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That the inside software is closed should be a duhh imo to prevent exploits and breaking form happening...
But even then windows can be tricked without a problem most of the time and forced open...
And even if you cant- There are other tools to take actions away from windows and use your version...

umbral oracle
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Oh I used to love watching the development of ReactOS growing up

umbral reef
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Aint ReactOS just a thing to support windows servers?

umbral oracle
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And they have come so far. I always wished I could learn enough os development to help out

umbral reef
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Start learing the lowest levels of programing then...

umbral oracle
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It's a full blown reimplementation of windows. Basically that

umbral reef
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forget learning JaviScript or C++ then

rough pulsar
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I disagree, encryption stuff is open source and is (usually) free from exploits.

umbral oracle
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End goal = support not only all windows software but all windows drivers

umbral reef
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@rough pulsar Depends highly when it got developed...

vocal shard
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encryption stuff - sponsored by NSA

umbral oracle
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Yes some of the recent linux kernel work to support UEFI lockouts make me sad

rough pulsar
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I strongly oppose security through obscurity.

vocal shard
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backdoor free, pinky promise

queen mango
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Cause one day, someone is bound to find it.

umbral reef
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We expected SSL type websites to be safe for ages! But look at heartbleed...

queen mango
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I may have said it somewhere, but the point still stands

umbral reef
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Or look at Zip files... those are also not safe most of the time...

umbral oracle
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Look at facebook. They pay people $20 to install a SSL root certificate on their phone and MITM all web traffic to learn what people do

umbral reef
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Or something as simple as DNS being unsafe with DNS Cache Poisoning....

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@umbral oracle Im waiting for apple to clap back man GWnanamiRankoPog Gonne by hype

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But what those examples mean Gallium
Just because its open source, it can be looked at and ect does not mean its any more safe...
It can even mean the opposite if a bad person learn about an exploit first.

rough pulsar
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As opposed to closed stuff where the vulns can lurk around unnoticed for decades

umbral oracle
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Even if you close it off you can have exploits. Best are legal exploits of the user, like half the apps on the android app store are probably there to do nothing other than show ads at the expense of users, often including malicious aspects (most android cleaner and security software with 100 million + installs are like this) but the company running the app store (Google) make money by users getting exploited in this way. So they turn a blind eye

umbral reef
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You can also not install a flash light app that needs your location, photo's, friends and ect to work...

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and forcing those apps to be open source wont change that and that aint really exploits also...

umbral oracle
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Sorry I'm driving this way off topic. Shall we continue in #general-media

rough pulsar
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Yeah, was about to say. Besides, I want breakfast.

umbral oracle
#

Or go back to vr headsets

vocal shard
#

So... Have we covered Cardboard vr?
Lol

queen mango
umbral oracle
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Cardboard is the same as Gear? Or is there a difference

queen mango
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Google Cardboard is just a cardboard-shelled VRBox

inner cape
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why would you bring it up jam NotLikeRin

rough pulsar
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Gear has extra or better quality accelerometers I believe. And maybe some other stuff.

vocal shard
#

Subject change tohruShrug

umbral oracle
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Is Quest the first mobile vr with positioned controller support and head tracking?

inner cape
#

discussing brown paper with 2 lenses in it MaidLul

umbral oracle
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Brown paper bag vr?

queen mango
#

tororo
Sometimes I question whether VR would be durable in a brown paper bag

vocal shard
#

i sometimes question if i should put a plastic bag over my head

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jk

inner cape
rough pulsar
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I do enjoy asking people if they've tried VR before and they say 'yeah, one of those phone things' and then they try my vive and have their minds blown because hands and positional movement and quality visuals

inner cape
#

weird flex but ok

vocal shard
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Mhmm

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It's so different

inner cape
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wasn't referring to gallium there scuffed

queen mango
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Eheh.. don't mind the yoga-bending screw-ups FBT does when not in use..

prime coral
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I feel like I need a friend with VR now, i've never actually tried it

umbral reef
#

Where do we see content of VRchat going to?
Like more world focused after Udon or giving us things like 'backpacks'?

queen mango
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Cause someone might be laying hands on the parts

vocal shard
#

lootboxes.... For avatar slots

inner cape
vocal shard
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@prime coral in bigger tech shops they often let you try it out

prime coral
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@vocal shard I live in a small town vrpill

queen mango
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Still, you get to visit the city with those kinds available.
My whole country doesn't have them on sale

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Nor available at all

vocal shard
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tbh i think its not really worth it i only got one because im into cyberpunk and stuff

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O.o

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I can't get enough..

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ask anyone with a VR headset to tell you three must have VR games. lets be real most people jsut play VRchat

umbral oracle
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Because you didn't get touch controllers and try out tilt brush yet. That experience literally sold me in minutes

tiny ginkgo
#

It's funny because the potential is so enormous, but all I do is sit on benches and play beat Saber

queen mango
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Probably because with VRChat, you get to interact with people from all walks of life

umbral reef
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@vocal shard Within this community? Big time yes most people lock hemself into here but there are PLENTY of good smaller VR games

rough pulsar
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Everyone who's tried my vive wanted one. Usually for tiltbursh.

umbral oracle
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Without controllers you are just a disembodied head at best. With your whole body there you can control the world around you

umbral reef
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No AAA style games that are actually good but smaller indie games? Ow fuck yes

queen mango
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Each person is unique from one another, most of them.

umbral reef
#

Look at the /r/Steam_VR

vocal shard
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the first years of VR most games were really bad and overpriced. i think most devs still dont understand you cant just import classic games into VR. it just doesnt work.

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so thats why i didnt get touch

umbral reef
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Ow wait that subs death by now forgot that 👀

queen mango
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Guess you haven't seen the 90s.. now that would cost you your health bills

umbral reef
#

Well yeet over to /r/vive_vr then instead

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Or the oculus sub reddit for game trailers/updates

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There is really cool shit out there tbh

vocal shard
#

what i really want is movies made for VR

queen mango
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3D effects, surround sound, those things?

umbral reef
#

Your looking for a sit and ride experience then

vocal shard
#

no i just think its an untapped field

queen mango
#

You're already pretty fine watching movies in rl.

rough pulsar
#

What I'd love is live theater stuff, viewable in VR.
Set up a load of depth cameras & mics around a theater and broadcast that into VR.

umbral oracle
#

Imteractive movies? Be able to walk but not interact? Or just stereo 360 watching

umbral reef
queen mango
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Will it reduce the fps, though?

vocal shard
#

somewhat interactive i guess yes.

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not walking around because that isnt possible

queen mango
#

Cause those VRC cameras like to consume a lot of FPS back in that Improv show

rough pulsar
#

I mean a real world theater having depth cameras set up, streaming into VR.

queen mango
#

Ah..

umbral reef
#

You would have to apy for that

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And most people with Vr right now are cheap 👀

vocal shard
#

but why would you emulate something into new tech rather then exploring the tech itself. like composition, cinematography etc. all that good stuff would need to be reinvented for VR movies

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much more exciting

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imagine riding next to blade runner in a car through a dystopian city

rough pulsar
#

VR movies would be cool, if not almost a completely new medium as you can't frame a shot since the user can look wherever they want. And other things too.

vocal shard
#

yes!

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hollywood pls

cold talon
#

Vr movies will probably be entirely cg

rough pulsar
#

And something like Blade Runner would be a great basis for one since I found loads of the film is about the ambience of the scene, and translating that to VR could work really well.

umbral oracle
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They call them games

raven mulch
#

i think i've already seen some movies in the oculus store that can be viewed through the oculus rift, but i think they were all just CG anyway, so Thunk

cold talon
#

But moving a person against their will is a no no

umbral reef
#

Didnt prey get ported over to VR?

vocal shard
#

no, games are realtime CGI is rendered in advance so it will always look superior to a game

umbral reef
#

I know that under the sea game did (Its badly ported over)

queen mango
#

Pre-rendered, you say?

vocal shard
#

aye

queen mango
#

Speaking of Blade Runner, I should be watching it.. the 1982 one.

rough pulsar
#

The soundtrack to the 82 one is amazing

cold talon
#

AceThink wait when you render cg doesent the scene basically get recorded as a normal video? Or can it be rendered only for all the events and shadows so the scene remains as a 3d medium

umbral reef
#

the thing isnt about rendering really but calculating the physics and shadows

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That is what is so costly in VR

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If you watcha youtube video in Vr its fine
When you start using real time light calculations and shit its when you die

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But a 3d VR video can be legit just a few camera's slapped down, seams combined and tada~

#

No debt but that shit would make the cost insanely high anyway

queen mango
#

Cyberpunk's an interesting genre.. The movies like The Matrix and Blade Runner, and games like System Shock and Deus Ex are set in that genre, and they're fantastico.. in the way the atmosphere and story are set up as

umbral reef
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If its fully CG you just model and pre render everything with some extra tools
Takes way longer to render but how do you think most game cutscenes work.... They dont render that stuff live..

cold talon
#

But the camera way would get only rotation, or well fake spatial movment

queen mango
#

Mr. Anderson! We've been expecting you.

rough pulsar
#

The scenery & fashion design in Deus Ex: Human Revolution is absolutely amazing. Completely impractical but who gives a fuck.

queen mango
#

Doesn't hold a candle to System Shock 2, though.. You're a soldier who is stuck in the Von Braun, with horrors running among her decks.

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A certain voice over your comms reaches you, aiding you for some time, until you reach her office, to your horror, and to the walls giving in to reveal the machine monstrosity behind her corpse

umbral reef
#

Nothing tops the vibe from Shadowrun for me

queen mango
#

The atmosphere's much more different, though. Both Deus Ex and Shadowrun pits you against bad guys.. System Shock? You're basically fighting for your life as you try to get a clue as to what happened to the starship and her crew

umbral reef
#

Shadowrun Dragonfall isnt really just cyber punk (It has magic and orks and stuff) or as simple as you said.

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Tbh im still waiting for more cyberpunkish maps within Vrchat

queen mango
#

Yea.. would like to see more of them.
Or the Bunker from NieR: Automata

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Crikey, just 7 minutes into Blade Runner.. that bearded guy in a hospital gown gave me a jump

umbral reef
#

I love how VRchat follows a Tech news reporter btw

vocal shard
#

i love the original BR

queen mango
#

I was gonna watch more, but rn.. checking over the VRC pubs first

vocal shard
#

living the dream

glass spire
#

I Miss old green tags

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Now im some blue

foggy raven
#

wtf. why i cant join any map while two days already

true sky
wraith oyster
#

Heyy

foggy raven
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@true sky it didn't help

true sky
#

have you tried reinstalling vrchat?

foggy raven
#

of course

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now i have "we are sorry. somrthink wrong" world

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for almost three days I just want to play a game

stone current
#

how much disk space u got

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remaining

foggy raven
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350 gb

stone current
#

for C:/ ?

foggy raven
#

yes

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i have enough free space that's not the point

#

point is iacutally can join worlds but only with vpn ._.

stone current
#

mayb ur internets blocking it?

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something could be preventing it like firewall, av, internet problems, etc

foggy raven
#

i dunno i called to my provider and they sad its all right, nothing is blocked

covert linden
#

I know others have had that problem and can only connect with a vpn

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I cant recall the reason why tho

foggy raven
#

т_т

primal oak
#

Just listened to some Nitro Fun. I wish I could find a world that's like a club but you can play music from youtube and dance with people to it.

light sequoia
#

Just got my vive!

umbral reef
#

Congratz!

light sequoia
#

Thanks! My parents surprised me with it! They are even letting me set it up in the biggest room we have!

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Its the living room but still im hella stoked

signal wren
#

getting stuck on creating file version recrod on unity :/

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i'm not the only one T_T

covert linden
#

now you can pet lolis

primal oak
#

Ravioli ravioli, do not pet the loli.

signal wren
#

Keep getting retrying request, because : "object modfication failed." I just edtied this like 20mins ago FINE and now I can't update anything.

opaque hawk
#

Do crunch compressed textures decompress and cache to ram?

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I ask because I’m working on something that is needs a 8k texture but I don’t want to kill people’s ram.

ruby needle
#

ofc. everything gets decompressed to raw at some point

signal wren
#

Bake your model

stone current
#

y would u need 8k textures

signal wren
#

OW and other high end gameing comps do this.

stone current
#

4k should already be more than enough

signal wren
#

use a low res model and a high res one Bake it you'll get high detail but less of the cost.

vocal shard
#

Does someone know the Owner from Space Vibs ?! He has his Discord linked in the World, but i cant find the person, might changed the name or numbers x.o

lapis nebula
#

Please be aware, there is a crasher in one of The Box rooms, so, whoever the idiotic reprobate is, well done for being idiot of the week

sonic verge
#

did everyones friends list go blank a few minutes ago?

opaque hawk
#

@stone current animated sprite avatar

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Would be pretty small if unity respected the images color index

lapis nebula
#

@sonic verge yes

opaque hawk
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It’s 9k <5mb in explorer but huge in unity

safe yacht
#

When I come across people that crash others, I report their avatars as Malicious, yes?

meager solstice
#

ye

safe yacht
#

Alright

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It’s funny how most of them now hide in Friends or more private servers.

#

Some times I make new friends, I join on them and I find these losers.

vocal shard
#

You don't even need crash avatars to boot anyone off now, logout exploit is running around & spreading

#

It'll soon be just like before the safety settings, where people are knocking each other off nonstop

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And an unplayable game

south spear
#

how can you avoid people crushing the server/room :/

umbral reef
#

Soon? Fairly sure that is already the case 👀

#

And pineapple- You cant thats the problem

vocal shard
#

It deals with photon apparently, so gg to that mmspin

cold ibex
#

A lot of people now just go to priv rooms, or places were not a lot of people go really

vocal shard
#

Yup

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Join The Box, you'll prob be crashed in like 10 minutes tops, lol

cold ibex
#

So I would avoid, box + pug

vocal shard
#

Every script kiddie & his grandma is running around with log off exploits now

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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

floral flaxBOT
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┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

safe yacht
#

I very rarely get crashed and when the game crashes it’s because of th game itself, not someone else.

cold ibex
#

Same ^

vocal shard
#

Theres a detector for the log out exploit at least.. :/

safe yacht
#

It’s easy to spot the people you should block

stone current
#

try disabling all the mip mapping and splitting images for actions @opaque hawk

safe yacht
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Very easy in fact. Block anyone using neon colors and a gun. Works without fail.

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I’ve yet to be wrong.

cold ibex
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I just go for anyone that flys

stone current
safe yacht
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They use really neon bright characters that always have a gun.

cold ibex
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not always the case but yeah i guess so

safe yacht
#

For me, every single case.

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Without fail.

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Because they’re losers that crave attention so they go for things that are bright and flaring.

cold ibex
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the ones that crash randoms

vocal shard
#

Wew, not surprised at all that they have bots deleting larger posts, this place is way too strict

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Kinda why I copy/pasted my reply to begin with

cold ibex
safe yacht
#

Glad they do.

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Must’ve been a freaking huge post.

#

Don’t really feel like playing this much anymore. It’s just a whole heap of really grating, immature people.

#

Without my safety settings I can’t go to public worlds. But with my safety settings on, I can’t actually have any fun because everyone looks like shit and can’t even emote at me.

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Even when I’m with friends, we’ve got nothing to do because of how limited the worlds are.

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So this social game about being, well..social, becomes very insular with groups of people just keeping to themselves and not actually being social.

cold ibex
#

???? Well thats your choice (: have a great life

covert linden
#

I am social WITH my group of friends, they make me happy

safe yacht
#

Most of my friends have stopped playing for these same reasons. But I guess VRChat just servers as a good entry game into VR, a purpose which it has served well.

lunar shell
#

🤔

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Ok

cold ibex
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Yeah I guess so, I have old friends that stopped too. Its just what you think and i dunno, i go to many worlds with my friend I dont think its too bad tororo but ok

covert linden
#

All my friends enjoy playing because we play together, there are occasions where we go publically and havent experianced that, sometimes we have and its as simple as leaving for us

languid beacon
#

Idk in public I feel people are less about being social and more about doing a bit/routine :p it’s entertaining and I’m not complaining, but the actual real social stuff happens in friends+

covert linden
#

itd be weird if all public worlds were groups sitting at a table and talking

safe yacht
#

As said, a social game with an insular community. Because people don’t want to experience the shithole that is the public servers. If someone with admin powers simply played th game they could remove so many people in a mere day...

cold ibex
#

But it wont be exciting ):

covert linden
#

I dont think youve been to that many public worlds

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I go to some semi regularily, the pug, bowling, etc, and theyre usually pretty chill

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Especially bowling

cold ibex
#

They calmed down more w the crashing, w the new full update i havent gotten crashed, or seen anyone get crashed for a bit. Maybe the game once its once inawhile not even bad...

covert linden
#

school maps often also you can socialize, cafes too

languid beacon
#

We’ve tried taking our whole group to a new public instance, but you’ll just get randoms coming in, not knowing we are all friends, and they start insulting some of us and it’s just awkward

cold ibex
#

I feel that

covert linden
#

Thats never happened to me, we went to the amusement park map and appearntly theres enough of us for it to be under the active maps, and so tons showed up

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however it was just another group of friends we never met, they were pretty chill

cold ibex
#

Its nice to meet more and more people when you join in w friends. We met someone and now theyre with us once inawhile so 😄

grim oak
#

the only instance of me being with a group of friends that join the instance is on is whenever Jameskii showed up. if you saw the stream he did during that day, you'll also find me there too.

languid beacon
#

Yeah same our group is big enough to where if we make a new public room it’ll quickly fill the rest of the way up with randoms

covert linden
#

Theres about 9 of us in my group

cold ibex
#

Oof i dont have many friends, id honestly feel like id be overwhelmed

covert linden
#

well see, When I designed the group at first there was just 3 of us excluding myself, then through this discord I found people who were lonely, couldnt find any real friends in game so it becamse a group I made for those very people, people who felt lonely and alone so I could bring them together

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We've been a stable group for a month now, but im still working on bringing everyone closer as real freinds

vocal shard
#

Nice ash^^

covert linden
long venture
queen mango
#

Nyaa.. So nice of you

ashen elbow
#

how do i add a music to one of my avatars? I want a song to one of it. And can someone send a good dance that fits this song. Can send in DM if u wanna know which one it is.

languid lake
#

My VRChat is still acting up... reee...

languid beacon
#

@SFMANIMATOR add an audio source to a game object, then disable the game object. On the first frame of the dance animation, add a key frame to enable the object.

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Can’t @ yer name on mobile

languid lake
#

@ashen elbow ^

ashen elbow
#

eugh

#

thats 2 much for my head

umbral oracle
#

On mobile just press @ and it will pop up a list of the most recent messages and you can select from the list. Or long press a message and do Mention (I'm on iphone)

languid lake
#

My VRChat is reading me as another person!

#

I’m hearing myself talk

#

I never realized how annoying I was until now.

vocal shard
#

@safe yacht just block whoever bothers you

#

That’s what I do and I have plenty of fun

queen mango
#

There's fun in blocking people?

indigo fern
#

There is, especially if they deserved it OmegaPill

languid beacon
#

It sounds more complicated than it is

#

It basically amounts to “just add the audio to the animation “

floral aspen
#

^

ember raptor
#

I don't really know where to post this but people have been asking me about the stencil stuff in my shader so I made a quick tutorial on how to use it. https://youtu.be/mhpm142hs9w

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Lets you have eyebrows and eyes render through hair in the style of some anime

floral aspen
#

that's pretty cool poiyomi

stone current
#

u can also use it to hide objects, by distance for example or by mask

languid beacon
#

Wondering if this can be used for portal effects

gilded sail
#

Guys, which headset is more worth it? Cuz I'd get an oculus but there's also the acer wmr headset that's at like $200 right now

#

I dunno what to pick

vernal shuttle
#

Guys, i got kicked from murder map game on vrchat.

umbral reef
#

So?

vernal shuttle
#

for the reason the loud obnoxious

floral aspen
#

then don't be loud and obnoxious

#

Also if I had the choice I'd choose the Rift over WMR

stone current
#

@languid beacon yea

vocal shard
#

@gilded sail acer is better value for doller/experience (cheaper, lighter, higher resolution). Rift is better experience overall (nicer controllers)

stone current
#

that the "mask" part

gilded sail
#

I got told that the tracking on the acer wmr controllers is shit but I dunno

#

Which is why I want more info on these two headsets before picking one

vocal shard
#

I highly disagree as a wmr user with rift experience

floral aspen
#

I wouldn't say it's shit, but it's not as good as Rift or Vive

stone current
#

rift suggested setup is garbage

#

but yea its tracking can be really good

vernal shuttle
#

it appears to me that he tells me moderation kick

vocal shard
#

I have a wmr review for vrchat if you are honestly curious. Just type my name and wmr in YouTube

floral aspen
#

You may lose tracking if you move your hands behind you on WMR, but other than that it's fairly accurate

stone current
#

yea for rift i got full 360 high low and behind 2 sensors

gilded sail
#

Wait jamie I think I've seen it

#

yeah I have haha

vernal shuttle
#

I got kicked myself for not having reset avatar

stone current
#

wat

vocal shard
#

Oh i remember you

#

Oh, ok elthrias ^^

#

This guy got kicked before

stone current
#

goopy gona end up being kicked from vrchat and/or the discord also :v

vocal shard
#

ya

stone current
#

1 sec lemy spam in every channel incomprehensibly (sorta understand this part but just use the spanish chat...) about minor issue until i get attention

spring bronze
#

You guys have international chats

vernal shuttle
vocal shard
#

wat

astral frigate
#

.

umbral oracle
#

@languid beacon portal effects you say? Check out the world named spatialgate if you haven't already

languid beacon
#

I know unity can vrc can do them but I really want to be able to make them myself :p will check it out though! Tyvm

languid lake
#

Hoi

neon flume
#

ahoy hoy

languid lake
#

I just wanna play VRChat...

queen mango
#

Have you tried logging out of your VRChat account then logging in?

umbral reef
#

Make a blurry photo :x?

queen mango
#

Wat vrpill

acoustic lotus
#

i broke my fan

umbral reef
#

Lmao

languid lake
#

Ive done literally everything

umbral reef
#

Im proud of you my dude- Thats just the first of many broken things from VR

#

Soon its the wall or shelves
Then your fingers and then your pc/screen

#

After those 3 times its just instant death so better watch out

stone current
#

oof

neon flume
#

broken heart 💔

umbral reef
#

@languid lake Also all stuff within #vrchat-support
And tried yet to change your DNS?

acoustic lotus
#

haHA I DID P GOOD for the entire year in vr with out brokeing any thuing

languid lake
#

My game registers me as a different player so when I speak, the avatar's mouth doesn't move while my voice echoes and I've been waiting a day for a staff member to reply.

#

DNS?

umbral reef
#

Ow i was thinking you could not log in

#

Well tried using a default avatar yet?

#

And do others hear you?

languid lake
#

Ive uninstalled steam and reinstalled it, did the same for VR chat, people can hear me not echo but I hear myself, I have messed with my settings, exc.

#

Am I going to get in trouble for pinging a staff member? I have been waiting a full day and no reply...

umbral reef
#

people can hear me not echo but I hear myself

So other cant hear you
But You can hear yourself in an echo?

languid lake
#

Yes.

umbral reef
#

If so- Make sure you have the right microphone as the default within windows

languid lake
#

Yes

umbral reef
#

VRchat only uses the one that windows has listed as default/main

#

It wont use any other and you cant change it ingame

languid lake
#

It is affected VRChat. And when I turn voices down, it stops.

#

I do not echo on discord.

umbral reef
#

What windows do you use

languid lake
#

Windows 10\

#

This would be a lot easier to explain over VC. Mind if we DM?

umbral reef
#

And as its midnight for me id rather not jump into a VC

languid lake
#

I know how to set it

#

That is not the problem

#

I set it up just fine like everything else.

umbral reef
#

The thing is- Discord auto finds the best microphone to use and allows you to change it
For the input and output

VRchat doesnt after the unity change. So because of that you need to preset everything in windows so audio works ingame.

languid lake
#

I know but it still set up the way it was beforew

#

The same mic, the same input, the same everything.

umbral reef
#

You stated withni user support you reset ya pc and the game so was just making sure

languid lake
#

Mhm

stone current
languid beacon
#

I am still impressed I have not broken anything yet. Hit? Yes. Hurt? Yes. Broken? No.

umbral reef
#

Need more tape

acoustic lotus
#

nah

languid lake
#

I do not want to ping a staff member since i do not want to get kicked but what am I supposed to do?

umbral reef
#

Well you send that support email?

languid lake
#

Yesterday yes.

umbral reef
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Then there is nothing else you can do beside wait
The staff here dont work for the game so they cant help you and the devs/admins dont provide support over discord

languid lake
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Hecc...

pale hull
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I’ve broken many glasses, many lamps, a hairbrush and a light. But I’ve also spilled a lot of water

acoustic lotus
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oof

stone current
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i not broken anything even with a tiny playspace

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and i even done the just dance map in full body

umbral oracle
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Water is probably the most dangerous. It can break electronics

stone current
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or shards

umbral oracle
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I've unplugged vive 3 times dancing and walking in circles. Hit controllers on walls. I always keep my blinds closed, those things probably protected my glass windows countless times

stone current
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do u guys even use guardiann system xd

umbral oracle
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I had more accidents playing crazy in full body with chaperone on then when I was playing several weeks with chaperone turned off completely. The chaperone gets off in certain cases.

opaque hawk
#

Pro tip: don’t play vr in the wine cellar

stone current
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since my playspace so smal it activate frequently but good for orientation and knowing where u should be

umbral oracle
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With chaperone off you're staying in thr center of your playspace but I now like to walk around with turning my playspace so I go near the edges a lot more

stone current
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most ive done is liek hit furniture but nothing fragile

umbral oracle
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But bright white snow worlds cover up the chaperone and some of my near accidents are from those

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Ya I have my fade distance all the way up so I always see my chaperone. It's actually more immersive since I don't need to think about where I am, let the chaperone do the work while I get to play in the virtual world

tacit plank
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How are all these VRChat prefabs being made?

south agate
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Community members via unity

tacit plank
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Afaik there's no scripting allowed, and VRChat triggers alone can't accomplish these things

opaque hawk
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Various whitelisted scripts

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Clever use of the animator, particles, etc

umbral oracle
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the Unity Standard Assets have some very powerful components. UI Button and Input Field components have a lot of actions available and can be activated through triggers or animation events. Particles and collisions.

By the time udon comes out we might not even need it any more at the rate the community is going 😉

stone current
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when or if

umbral oracle
#

@tacit plank

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Sorry wrong ping KAB

languid beacon
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The event system is turing complete. It may be slow, it may use too much memory, but in theory, you can script with rocks and lines in sand.

umbral oracle
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😃 xkcd reference

languid beacon
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👌

stone current
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wuf

tacit plank
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Oh, cool! Do I just call whatever functions I wish?
And being turing complete doesn't mean that it's not limited in some aspects.
For example, making something which shuffles a deck of cards seem like a ton of work

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I can't even play sounds. VRC player is bricked for me, and audiobanks play the first song in them at various speeds and they don't react to Play() which by default is set to only activate for other players for some reason

umbral oracle
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Yes any function it lets you should be ok. Lots of combos don't work. Just play around with it. Lots of trial and error

languid beacon
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Well you have the entire unity animation system at your disposal. Many stuff that would be “scripting” are just animations. The only hard part is cold hard logic, which isn’t usually THAT complex for VRChat worlds

tacit plank
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It's too much trial and error since I usually have to launch it to test, and when I search, all I can find is other people who has given up. The audio bank component might not even work

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I don't understand animators. I was hoping I could live without, but it seems I will just need to learn them

umbral oracle
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Ui buttons and animators are nice to work with because you can test them just by opening play mode

languid beacon
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Animations are a huge part of unity and game engines in general

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Pretty much everything in games that isn’t directly being controlled by the player is an animation

tacit plank
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Good point. And I can program, so it feels wrong to set up huge grids of triggers and advanced animations to do simple things

languid beacon
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And it’s not just bones swinging around, you can automate any parameter of anything in the scene via animation

iron thunder
#

if I mute someone.. do they know i muted them?

tacit plank
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Not all parameters show up when you make animations btw, not all can be changed either even if it looks like it

languid beacon
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Well if you prefer to code stuff to create it, you can. You just can’t have custom code that is executed for /runtime/

tacit plank
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VRChat voice mute? Yes

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But everything fun I want to do is runtime, and Unity is strange and unreliable

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In my old world, over half my time was spend fighting a bug. Luckily, somebody made a canny and explained that prefabs will need to have unique names to not overwrite eachother at random

languid beacon
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Maybe wait for udon it might be your thing I suppose

tacit plank
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Yeah, but will it be a week? Month? Year?

languid beacon
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This year most probably

gilded sail
#

Is full body tracking only supported on vrchat?

languid beacon
tacit plank
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And how long can I use it before it's temporarely shot down because of an exploit? 😛

languid beacon
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@gilded sail there are a few other steam games with full body support besides vrchat, yes. Not many

stone current
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u can make ur own tho

tacit plank
#

Btw is it possible to change trigger vrchat text? I want another text color. White is not visible most of the time, it's also too big

stone current
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theres api already for like unity and unreal i think

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but i only seen like 2 game with it

finite kraken
#

Anyway I could ask for VRchat to revert my name change?

vocal shard
#

what happens if i block myself

finite kraken
#

Turn into gasper the blocked ghost

languid beacon
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How.. do you block yourself?

tacit plank
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Through the API for example

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Idk, but I can't recommend it

languid beacon
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I know you can kick yourself. And yes, you get kicked. And trust docked.

umbral oracle
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@tacit plank a lot of the big vrchat world contributors actually don't hook triggers themselves but program editor scripts to generate things

queen mango
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But I don't think you can block yourself there.

tacit plank
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That sounds cool

languid beacon
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See if I were making this API, I would make it so it’s absolutely impossible to block yourself legitimately through the client but if you do it through the API then you just can’t see yourself anymore. Because I’m evil.

tacit plank
#

Hmm, spawn prefab is always global, but UI menus are always local (by default)
Which will win?

umbral oracle
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the vrchat sdk will become slow or crash if you display the trigger component of anything with lots of actions

tacit plank
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Lol, sounds like something wasn't made well

umbral oracle
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Most triggers should be local. You want as few global triggers as possible, like announcing something important to everyone else in the world

tacit plank
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I want players to have a local tablet which spawns items globally

umbral oracle
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Ya that's a common thing in many worlds, just don't put object sync on the tablet but make some triggers on each buttons or use a canvas full of ui buttons that fire tiggers - like what avatar testing does

tacit plank
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I was planning on doing that, I didn't know that avatar testing worked like that, but I guess that means it's definitely possible

umbral oracle
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Not just avatar testing. Lots of worlds use local ui panels that you can pick up and take with you. It's lots of fun to have your own control panel in hand

paper cloak
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Yeah I use that for player teleportation triggers. Hitting a button on the panel turns on an object with a local teleport trigger

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But that could just be a global trigger for spawning a prefab

tacit plank
#

Will it be global by default? I heard spawn is always global, but UI is local, so I'm wondering how that will work..
I've just found CyanLaser's world tutorials btw, after watching a few I think I have an idea of how it works

molten hornet
umbral oracle
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@tacit plank there are some really great tutorials. Also don't be afraid to ask in #world-development or #event-system-sdk2 . Cyan and others frequent those forums and someone knowledgeable will probably be able to answer your questions without them getting lost in general chat.

vocal shard
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I am looking for any avatars that does crazy stuff, like the loud music and makes your screen look like a club type of thing, if anyone has any one i can clone can you let me know? i don't know if this is the right place to ask, if it isn't let me know.

tacit plank
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I feel that up-to-date tutorials are few, or at the very least, hard to find
I will ask in those channels if I need specific help though, thank you!

floral aspen
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pls don't get an avatar like that. It's annoying and obnoxious

queen mango
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Dude no

vocal shard
#

you wont last long on vrchat if you are looking to cause issues for other user's

queen mango
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^

upper fox
#

the trust system does a pretty good job

queen mango
#

Being a general nuisance to people in VRChat won't get you anywhere.

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Now.. where should I start with this?

paper cloak
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well, it'll get you a nuisance rank

autumn mica
#

The Pug is quite nice.

rigid crescent
#

A good job at what? lol

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nuisance is extremely hard to get, i've met plenty who deserve it and don't have it

molten hornet
#

60% trusted users need it

rigid crescent
#

You've admitted you barely play VRChat and when you do lock yourself away in private Omega, so you probably don't realize there's plenty of people who have been crashing and causing issues for hundreds of hours of gametime without so much as a short suspension

molten hornet
#

Anyone stuck in login loop?

rigid crescent
#

Lots of people, for about a month or two now

molten hornet
#

Grrrrrr

queen mango
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Yea.. I always seem to get the login loop bug every now and then when I'm playing VRChat

rigid crescent
#

It's typically latency related

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high ping = login loop, farmboy internet = login loop

vocal shard
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Never had the login loop bug other than 9 months ago when we had server issues and the hub was everyones default home 😛

velvet mica
#

Can someone help me? I'm having trouble with this Avatar and I'm not sure what to do.

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The model is showing up as purple.

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Nevermind, I figured out the textures.

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Now I'm having trouble getting the Emotes and gestures into it.

zinc solar
#

Sup noobs

queen mango
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Hello, Cloak

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Open Beta's out now

zinc solar
#

What?

umbral oracle
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High ping fixed I hear.

hybrid fiber
#

I just came out with best Discord name.

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@zinc solar

foggy raven
#

How can i check if i was banned? Because now i cant play without vpn

vocal shard
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if you were banned, it will tell you when you try to log in

umbral oracle
#

If you can play with or without vpn, you are not banned. Also you create worlds and are probably not abusive so you should be able to get back your account by emailing support.

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Maybe go and try the open beta. It's supposed to fix disconnects caused by ping related issues

foggy raven
#

no, it did not help 😦

cold talon
#

Temmie playing with vpn?

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IS THIS BAN EVASION!? eyeshake

subtle prawn
indigo fern
raven mulch
vivid pecan
#

why is there not a portuguese international text chat

cold talon
#

Why is there not an English international text chat

meager solstice
#

?

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Why would u need one? When this is kinda it?

queen mango
#

Why is there not a Filipino international text chat?

#

🤔

subtle prawn
umbral reef
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Why isnt there a second dutch channel

earnest harbor
#

why do they need one? colbert

queen mango
#

Some of them are starting to make a prescence, however small they are

vocal shard
#

double dutch

edgy pendant
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Anybody know why I might be struggling really badly with VRChat? A couple months ago I was able to play the game fine, but recently I’ve noticed that it struggles with fewer people and smaller maps.

queen mango
#

Something the issue with your hardware?

edgy pendant
#

Not from what I can tell, but I’m no tech wizard.

queen mango
#

Hmm.. Maybe it's got to do with your Nvidia/AMD graphics settings?

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Probably had some options set to prioritize battery over graphical performance.

umbral reef
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@edgy pendant check the performance of the avatars around you and mainly the dynamic bones amount
Make sure all drivers and ect are up to date

edgy pendant
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I mean there’s a high chance it’s my old ass CPU, but it was handling the game alright up until some time recently.

queen mango
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Hmm.. Could be that

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I would suggest upgrading to a Core i5

edgy pendant
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I may just go straight to an i7 and upgrade my motherboard while I’m at it.

queen mango
#

Hmm.. so money isn't your concern?

edgy pendant
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Well, it is, but I’d rather have something more up to date.

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I’m willing to save up more for a better PC.

queen mango
#

Ah.. that's nice

livid abyss
vocal shard
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hello guys

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Hi

lapis nebula
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Morning

queen mango
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G'morning, Kry10

lapis nebula
#

I’m still buzzing from yesterday

rough pulsar
#

Mornin'

lapis nebula
#

Had my best stream session ever, lots of viewers, not double figures yet, but, a definite improvement

vast tulip
#

morning everyone~

vocal shard
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Morning ^^

queen mango
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G'morning, Mimi ^^

lapis nebula
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Hoping I can hit double figures this Sunday

queen mango
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In views?

lapis nebula
#

Viewers

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I’m over 7k in views

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And over 300 followers

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I’m one step away from affiliate

queen mango
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Yea.. the more people see the more mature side of VRChat.. the more people will hear of VRC as such.

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Hope you keep up the good work there

lapis nebula
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Thanks bud, i do have a laugh though, but, I don’t do anything that would put VRChat in a bad light

queen mango
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I can see that

lapis nebula
#

Had tons of fun yesterday

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That eleanor was amazing

queen mango
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An Eleanor?

lapis nebula
#

Yeah, can’t remember their full name

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But, they rp’d as a little girl, their voice was incredible

queen mango
#

Damn.. seems like a fun time there

lapis nebula
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It was, we was in her house, her mummy was telling the story of how she adopted eleanor, she acted out sitting on the floor eating grass, was so cute

queen mango
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In VRChat?

lapis nebula
#

I admire and really appreciate the time and effort that goes into creating something like that

#

Yeah, in VRChat

queen mango
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Ah, sorry.. I thought something else there

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But man.. that's some well-done RP right there.

lapis nebula
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Lol, nah, it was in VRChat, the only other rp player I admire is BunBun

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They’re so cool, no voice, just fbt and jingle bells and a squeeker

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But, it’s so believable

queen mango
#

Ah.. that's nice to hear

lapis nebula
#

They’re the only one I’ve ever seen doing that

queen mango
#

Pretty sure, if RP had an icon, it would be them and Eleanor

lapis nebula
#

You have your cute mutes, the ones who talk, but, only BunBun does that

queen mango
#

I see...

robust prairie
#

So I finally got approved to upload my own avatar

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16 hours later

subtle salmon
#

Excellent :>

queen mango
#

Noice ^^

umbral reef
#

Poggers!

robust prairie
#

Now I get to be Karen Kujou

queen mango
#

Wasn't there an avatar like that in the Avatar Cafe world?

robust prairie
#

I don’t know, tbh

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I’ve been to a lot of avatar worlds, but I haven’t seen them yet

queen mango
#

I think you should give that a visit

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I remember that there is a Kujo Karen avatar there, alongside some Kannas

robust prairie
#

I’ll have to judge it’s quality against the one I was going to upload

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I had only been following a tutorial on how to import custom avatars

inner cape
#

🅱ustom

winged pine
#

hello

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im bongocat on vr chat

spring bronze
#

The Casual person who jumps into an international chat and interupts a converstation by posting a random gif

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Why do you do this?

plush mortar
#

why not

queen mango
#

Bongo no.. why did you post it again?

winged pine
#

wdym

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its hard to communitacate when all i can say is meow

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without tex

#

t

vocal shard
#

MOEW

lofty tundra
#

what is up with vrchat lately, im getting veery often loadingscreen bugs where i only get 0% loading into a world with 0/0 MB

deep sierra
#

hjh

north axle
#

Just found out Lycon makes x90 more profit in VRC than me, now I'm sad.

polar elm
#

But pandiman can do za worldo and stop time

stone current
#

ad a article on dogos

polar elm
#

Write one and he most likely will add it

stone current
#

yey

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i wish RoVR wasnt failed kickstarter tho

#

i nevr herd of it so prob didnt get baccing bc bad marketing

polar elm
#

Making games is not easy

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And marketing is even harder

stone current
#

no but liek

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who wuldnt want it rite but no marketing so no 1 knew

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idk if they even gonna focus on it anymoar

#

nothin on they twitter and website is ded

vocal shard
#

i wouldnt say marketing is harder if the game is good

glass spire
#

so in VR you have more emotes than on Desktop.(execlude VR motion) ??

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maybe i didnt explain it well

covert linden
#

No?

vocal shard
#

in vr you can do two at the same time, is that what you mean?

vocal shard
#

selam millet ne kadar türk varsa hepsine gelsin

covert linden
#

theres a 5 year old in vrchat

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nvm thEYRE 3

vocal shard
#

:S

#

I'm Emr Leo FROM TURKEY AGE 23 WHO WANT MEET ME ADD ME FRİEND OR MESSAGE THANKS !

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I know guys I'm crazy.. .s

subtle prawn
robust prairie
#

@queen mango which Cafe do I go to for the Karen Kujō avatar?

lyric fog
#

does anyone here have an issue with the login in into vrchat ? pls help

turbid agate
#

Does anyone know why vrchat still locks your cursor, even in desktop

#

it seems so incredibly bad

#

Sometimes i have to close it down via command line when another program overlays over and i cant move my cursor.

stone current
#

fullscreen

turbid agate
#

it does the same thing in fullscreen though, locking cursor when loading the UI etc.

stoic halo
#

just Alt tab alot tbh

#

eventually the cursor will come out

torn nebula
#

Or open your menu

molten orbit
#

tab into the game then out

noble valve
#

will not load worlds. And all. I can't go to any location. Return home. that's it. Reinstalling the program does not solve the problem. Steam also checked the chat files, everything is fine.

meager solstice
#

Just go into the menu hit world (brings up the worlds list) than go to a different program, this keeps ur mouse from locking up

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@turbid agate

turbid agate
#

sometimes it locks my cursor and alt tabbing doesnt work

covert linden
#

I hate that

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I just close my laptop and reopen but ig that doesnt work with pcs

queen mango
#

@robust prairie Pretty late, but I think it's just called the Avatar Cafe.

meager solstice
#

That’s why I said if ur in the world list.... it doesn’t lock it up @turbid agate

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Atleast for me

wary karma
#

opening the menu at all disables mouse lock

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which is a bit of a pain, it should at least lock it to the window

#

every time I go to select avatars I end up clicking my taskbar

languid beacon
#

Yeah opening menu before using oculus dash is pretty standard for me now. I’ll keep doing it even when I no longer have to

vocal shard
#

onlyw ay to change password is through password recovery right? through email?

ruby needle
#

you can just normally change it on your profile?

vocal shard
#

where,,

ruby needle
#

login and then you have that little pen symbol

vocal shard
#

thx

#

u a homie

dusky island
umbral reef
#

no he aint a homie he is a qtie 😉

queen mango
#

A cutie neko 🙃

stone current
#

wat aboot me'

queen mango
#

Ah.. you'd be a umm.. floofy Shoobie?

stone current
#

acurate

robust prairie
#

@queen mango I'll have the to look again tomorrow if I'm online, cause I didn't see it when I searched today

stone current
#

ima pley vrcat s00n

queen mango
#

Oof.. alright.

crude nimbus
#

so um any1 know of avatar worlds with avatars that have special ablilities?

opaque hawk
#

What do you mean by special abilities?

languid beacon
#

In before screen zoom shader

queen mango
#

Frozone 💦

languid lake
#

I’m going through VRChat with drawl

covert linden
#

Same

languid lake
#

My VRChat broke... Waiting on a reply from customer support... I haven’t been able to stream...

covert linden
#

Nuuuu

languid lake
#

My voice echoes since the game detects me as a separate person from my character and I don’t know how to fix it.

#

I’ve reset the dang computer 2 times! Still broken!

opaque hawk
#

That is so weird, I’d like to see video footage of that because that is so bizarre.

languid lake
#

My stream...

#

A few most recent ones should have it.

opaque hawk
#

Mind linking it?

languid lake
#

I’ll do it in DMs

opaque hawk
#

Thx

hardy seal
#

so my heaset isntt here yet but im going to need longer cables to get out of the corner im in does anyone know if that has any adverse effects on performance or should i just move my desk

covert linden
#

Oh my friend has that glitch too, idk how he fixrd it tho

ruby needle
#

long cable runs can get an issue, especially with USB3.0

hardy seal
#

i just maybe need an extra 7-10 feet