#vrchat-general-2
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I guess they could.. but as it stands, I'm the only active Filipino in chat
Or maybe there are others more but are not comfortable or familiar with English
people call me filipino just for existing in manila for any amount of time
xd
even though i'm white as white gets
Living in the city can give off a bit of citizen vibe to some people
But umm.. let's move this over to #general-media before Ruubick whips us
I used to play rubick
it was pretty fun
Hi
Hoi there 
:D Wassup!
Hello
Hi there ‾w‾
C:
T~T i keep timing out
Okie
Im gonna try and make a profile picture from gachaverse
So o will be back
I*
i REALLY hate crashers
Crikey.. something happen there?
It's almost afternoon over here
Oh at mine Its 10:28 pm
Oof.. timezones
Not really.. different parts of the world are under different timezones
Ok
I never knew that thank u for telling me
Now it just gonna be silence again i think
Ok ima play roblox
I cant talk in public chat idk why
Nvm
So uh
?
Im currently recording, and somebody keeps crashing me. Just cause I muted somebody who kept yelling that im a furry just cause I have "Wolf" in my name. And she currently just crashed me again.
Switch worlds? Or are they friend of a friend. #moderation-reports
oh im recording this, but Im trying tyo get more proof of it.
Ok
"Switch worlds", yea let me just leave her alone and let her take action towards others. No thanks.
!outputlog The output log is the proof. Keep a copy after crashing before restarting vrchat
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
Where shal I post that.
Cause I have it right here.
https://gyazo.com/33b4dfac9fc9628be41e348022336f26
Actually that's exactly what you should do. Some people want attention. If the streamer goes away they lose the attention and get bored
i never get to help
does output log store stuff like particle and shader info
@surreal canyon It's okay.. Everyone used to have that kind of feeling the first time around
Ok
I openly had someone walk to my face and said
I'm gonna clap you
While I just stare and giggled cuz I have animations disabled
Then they managed to clap you because of hidden shaders
I find it odd like during the secondary loading phase
even if you have animations and particles disabled
they tend to go thru for a few sec
@umbral oracle Since you seem like a smart individual.
how does a crasher work? Do they change avatars to successfully do the crash?
Cause I guess it was somebody else, the person I muted for him literally yelling that im a furry.
If it wasnt the person who changed to whatever in front of me as a distraction so "ample" Could crash me, well I kinda fell into that trap.
But what are others way they can crash you, like other possibilities. I dont mean dossing, I mean avatar wise, all I know is in one of the videos I recorded just a bit ago
He respawned after I was shaking my characters head ingame,
and then I crashed. but at the same time the other person who I thought crashed me, said "Hold on sneaky" (her friend), next thing I crash.
that's not a topic to go into detail with in here
VrChat.
@earnest harbor Just read the rules, I dont see whats missing for me to not type here about that.
Im just trying to understand who the crasher was. Thats p much it.
Crashes can just be extreme lag spikes, memory leaks or bugs in the game. More often than not, it's literally just one of thosr things. My game will crash around once per session just through normal usage. However sometimes a user can cause severe lag or discomfort to a player using visual effects or other means. Sometimes crashes are caused by users exploiting bugs in the game's code or networking protocol.
However it happened, bug or intentional, crashes are benign and usually it's just a matter of double clicking vrchat again and finding another world to join.
Yes if a user is being malicious, sending an email will help
I figured VRChat users would most relate...
https://twitter.com/ChrisPatstone/status/1090479950023413760?s=19
my floof get all squoshed
Haven't had a VR headset yet, so I haven't experienced that yet
I used a vr head set i think
You think ?

🤔


hello, i am new to this server
Also hey
welcome

hi guys 😃 you might know me from my world, The Lasagna Lounge. I'm currently looking at some old versions of the map and I've realised that there might be a possibility of reintroducing the old version, The Grand Lasagna. How many of you guys would be interested in me rebuilding The Grand Lasagna? It would take quite a while as the old project was broken with the 2017 Unity update but I'm willing to jump back in and resurrect it if there's enough interest.
was it the map where u could fly glitch to spawn from a giant lasagna planet thing
Yeah. It'd be the version in this video https://youtu.be/a67B0yCRARc?t=51 . well as close as I can get it anyway
There is in fact a Sentient Lasagna here oh boy
Does VRchat have its own client?
? what do you mean @glass spire
@vague hemlock like does it have its own software to run the game. or do i need to open it through steam
Guys help
You can run it separate from steam
But it will use either steamvr or oculus

Or neither if in desktop mode
@vague hemlock ah ha. thank you
Its best to run it through steam or oculus store as it will promt you to launch in vr or desktop 
@vocal shard welcome to the matrix 

I could possibly maybe afford the rift but I've keep being told it's not good compared to vive so I feel like meh should skip then. 
I hear Rift has better controllers than Vive, & from what I've seen theres more reason to get it 
I hear vive has more immersion and 360 feeling than rift
All preference, but the fact that Oculus has better controllers is well.. A fact
- clearer picture
They are for Vrchat tbh the same and the oculus might be better because of the controls
For other things its really a question of space and budget
lighthouse? 
Also if you ever want proper Full body tracking you need vive tbh
Proprietary trackers, for Vive at least..
Also Oculus sensors seem to be better quality than Vive.. Vive seem to break fairly easily from what I've heard

Huh, I have oculus as full play area with only 2 cameras, and it works pretty solid
Full body tracking + vive would be way too expensive so meh
We should compile this stuff in a faq..
vive sensors never had trouble. vive controllers have some defects like the trackpad though some are not too hard to repair yourself.
Even 360? @cold talon
Mhm
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┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go
No problem whatsoever
But the lighthouses go for a larger bigger range and dont need an USB port, just power.
The oculus does need aces to the computer with there lighthouse versions

anyone that has the rift and enjoys it I can ask some questions to?
3 trackers + full vive is not too much worse than oculus + vive lighthouses + 3 trackers
Or get WMR and be unable to put your hands anywhere but in front of you 
Pretty sure the Kinect would be the poor man's FBT solution.
Also for the oculus to get proepr 360 you need to buy an extra camera but its still cheaper then vive in the end
but you are supporting facebookVR what is the worse scum within the VR gaming community

you can put your hands behind you with wmr. why do you keep saying that?
Celes.. you're gettin a whippin'
and yes, vive supports competition to the facebook monopoly.
Having oculus controllers whit vive fbt would be 
knuckles and pimax are coming out this year so that will be much better situation then
though not until like Q3 or something
Tbh its legit WMR + Vive + Anything else VR VS FacebookVR
I wont call it Oculus anymore because it isnt- Its FacebookVR
I dont know about everywhere else but in my country the vive is 300 euro more than rift. 

Same here
Damn, that's crazy
_ New deal! We give you 20 euro but you allow us to install mallware so we can track your camera, use your microphone and even get all tracking information + all pc information from you_
Hello there
Ow wait thats only for phones not vr~ My bad~
ya they want a closed platform--just look how they try to make oculus "exclusives"--but they are forced to allow steamvr for now because of the content. it will be a sad day if oculus goes full walled garden.
Oculus Quest isn't something I'd want to begin with due to its low performance
Malware hell yes 
But it ain't bad compared to the price in PH.
They go up to like 30,000 pesos more than Oculus
they have billions in facebook ad revenue to fund whatever they want and squeeze out the competiton
But tbh- There are billion of good smaller Vr games out there already
they can just keep lowering the price of the oculus until people choose it over vive
Now, if only Oculus makes their own FBT solution
@vocal shard https://i.imgur.com/ikBkXon.gif
wmr tracking gif... man.. he really can't put his hand behind him can he?...
Well they are going for phone VR so...
Lets hope it flops bigtime while other companies then vive go the Pc version
they do care about mass market stuff too much. I think they expect pose estimation ML algorithms will do the job of FBT in the future so they probably don't care much right now
Phone VR 
That would be dope, but there are no plans for that
Is VR ok to buy used?
are touch controller working alright in vrchat? thinking of buying them
Don't ever remind me of those VRBox shells

Okay pal @vocal shard
touch controllers are the best at the moment from what I hear

@prime coral Depends- If its in proper condition why not. Just make sure to clear the foam and ect really good...
oh cool, i figured most have vive
vive is better if you want tracking quality and full body
gotcha
@umbral reef because of germs?
so it's kind of do you prefer best hand controllers or best overall system and going against The ZuckerMan
Big time yes- You sweateasy in Vr with everyone thinking its a fitness machine instead of a relax thing (Beatsaber VS puzzle games)
Or support Bill Gates in his VR ventures
i just wanna headpat some lolis not go against capitalism

So unless you want other peeps there germs, filth and sweat on you id suggest cleaning it
germs ew 
@vocal shard Main thing is- You lock yourself out of smaller upgrades and if you ever want more you will need to buy everything new and fresh
Unlike with the vive that is building a system where other companies can release products and make them work together or upgrade lose parts.
But that would raise the price too much now.
Fat fingers 
@umbral reef yea i know but i got the rift already just not controllers
do touch controllers detect how many fingers are on the controller?
There is a clear reason why the price is low-
I dont get why no one talks just about the headset tech (tracking, FOV and ect)
Instead of also talking about the infrastucture, addons, bonus things.
to get anything other than rift controllers you will need either a different headset or vive lighthouses
@vocal shard And I don't think any of the three controllers from HTC, Oculus and WMR have finger detection
But the vive accessories are so dam expensive too
oh i see. bummer
It's still new tech, so there are gonna be some shortcomings
@cold talon Keep in mind- the first phones where also expensive as shit same for computers
you dont support apple products right because of there closed economy, high prices and ect now? Compare them to the old apple you and gotthe perfect Oculus example with facebook (instead its already going fucked insteads of years after)
so people who move their fingers naturally have the knuckles
Well oculus has a very limited finger detection for opening hand, pointing and thumb
They detect both presses and touch
It takes a bit to get used to it, but it works really well
Knuckles aren't fully support in vrchat yet. Probably because... Eh I have no idea.
ye sadly marketing doesnt always translate into reality jamie haha
is it possible to see difference between a rift user vs vive user in vrchat?
depends on their settup
Hmm, I don't think so if you are just chilling around and talking..
Well using the wands seems a little less intuitive
@rough pulsar They arent on the open market yet are they? So why would they be fully supported already instead of refining it for when they get released
Rift users are more likely to t-rex than vive.
t-rex?
T-rexing 🤔
trex
sounds like a metaphorical term for going extinct
arms in front, if they don't have tracking set up for full 360
A distinct hand/arm pose when sat down in VR
Wait does oculus support Macs?
Oh, right.
Not that I know of
Well rip makkles than
Doubt it ever will with the Apple V Facebook beef happening in the background anyway
Your observations may be correct, Gallium.. I've also seen more Oculus users having t-rex.
There's about two macs with enough gpu power to run vr anyway

does the touch tracker need a USB3.0?
A Mac running VR? That's unheard of
i think im out of USB port god damnit
Steamvr & vive work on Mac OS
Uh one usb3 and one usb 2
just for the controllers?
Still- For future support-
Im FAR from an apple fan but im not a retard, i hate for a reason.
Not sure but I think usb3 for the camera traking the headset and 2 for the hands, but take it with a huge grain of salt
Its not like VR is still in its early stages and there is tech out there to reduce the calculating power needed that can be implemented
I like mac os because it's got a decent ui with unix underneath
Three mods in chat 👀
Mac OS is neat for the every day human
But the thing is- You gotta fully invest in apple or not at all tbh.
But thats #general-media
@cold talon thanks. gonna check if i got free ports left before buying
3? @queen mango Who then?
Jamie, Gallium, Lycon
I cannot find words to express how much I do not like iOS, and overpriced and extremely underpowered hardware if apple
Ow didnt even notice Lyncon was a chatmod lmao
The vive runs off just one usb 2.0 port, btw. (and hdmi)
@odd lava Then you dislike the product, no the iOS
I wont say i hate windows because my pc is shit :X
On oculus I observed that one camera is like a master and one slave, as if you move the master the whole playspace moves with it the other can be repositioned at any time, but if you got both in usb3 it will change betwen them, probably to the one that is more stable
Which is why I have been tryna convince my Mum to change phones..
She's been using iPhone for 7 years now
Aw wait rift has bunch of usb stuff? I have 1 free lel
So glad I ditched ios for Sailfish OS
Tbh i love to use iOS products.
Not when i gotta install or change anything. But its really simple to use most of the time.
Ofc when you try it out for the first time its odd but Duhh . Try jumping into any Linux distro for the first time.
hating on apple is so 2018
Never would I want to fathom having to use an Apple product, ever
Android and Windows are the ways to go
macbooks pro from couple years ago when they still sold matte displays was peak laptop. js.
And the main perk iOS has over other products.
Almost everything is natively within there programs, want to use cloud? Ezpz, want to edit things? Ezpz and so on.
Also the fact they got native tools to help deaf/semi blind people on there products is amazing
miss me with that plastic stuff
Moreover I do not think supporting walled garden environment is good
There tech is laughable bad though- Thermal throttling, connectors blowing up instead of anything else that should protect that, cheap screen connectors what cause the screen to fully break and need a 300 euro replacement instead of just a 30 for a cable...
And bendable phones
That also 😂
Somehow, iPhone 6 had a sharper drop in durability compared to iPhone 5
Plus.. The damn screens
They break like regular glass
Or being unable to replace a screen unless you remove everything and that takes heat guns, special screws and more odd tools no normal person has...
Looking at you also Samsung
There's just a few things stopping me going full Linux for everything
CashGrabbERZ
yea i dont care about phones at all until they bring one out that doest shatter when i drop it.
VR being one of them.
all phones are boring.
@rough pulsar 10 more years and everything from VR to work inviorments to higher end tech products will support it
Like fully support it and not half assed like now
I heard it 10 years a go;)
I dunno, the repair shops got pretty good at fixing that generation of phones. Even easier than android phone hardware. One of the shops got my iphone 6 apart and back together in like 10 minutes
The company i work at for example already makes there programs work for Linux fully- Its a important thing for long therm support.
Windows can yeet there support for something and everyone is out of luck. Linux? Someone can find a fix for it instead.
10 more years of having to put up with Windows and its arbitrary bullshit woohoo.
yea and the replace screens they put into the phones are almost as good as the originals
@odd lava Its already insanely well made and for most users its no difference in using windows or linux
Its when you start doing the more odd things you run instantly into trouble
Yeah, I try to use as much open source software as possible for that exact reason. Shit breaks, I can at least try fix it myself
It's going to be worse in 10 years as $texh_monopoly1 and $tech_monopoly2 control their respective markets locking competition out entirely
There is an alternative though Lyuma...
People are slowly getting sick of apple with there bullshit, people notice linux can be made just as smooth as Apple stuff and dummy proof what is effective for companies...
The first software thing we learn in my school for Innovation is how to dual boot windows and a Linux distro 👀
Using open source software for everything was my dream once upon a time but these days tech is moving too fast to do that on everything. Sure for traditional desktop or laptop hardware
But try getting a decently working phone on open source software. Even vr headsets like vive have tons of closed firmware or drivers inside
Tech is already moving too fast- There are so many exploits in any program its insane... Windows cant fight that meanwhile with linux the dude learning about the problem can instantly suggest a Fix...
Vive can be pulled wide open though with some magic 👀
Also I have a much bigger issue with closed ecosystem than closed source. Like windows is closed source but you can customize the OS inside and out and do practically anything with your hardware on top of the os
Windows closed economy?
And vive is largely that way too compared to oculus
Windows (at least pre-10) is hardly closed any more. Just look at Wine and the Proton emulation valve worked on
OTOH you can get open source + closed ecosystem which is what Google made out of Android.
If you wanna see wine taken to the weird extreme, look at ReactOS.
The os is open but they now not only suggest but require apps to hook into closed source Google Play Services apis to do basic phone functions
That the inside software is closed should be a duhh imo to prevent exploits and breaking form happening...
But even then windows can be tricked without a problem most of the time and forced open...
And even if you cant- There are other tools to take actions away from windows and use your version...
Oh I used to love watching the development of ReactOS growing up
Aint ReactOS just a thing to support windows servers?
And they have come so far. I always wished I could learn enough os development to help out
Start learing the lowest levels of programing then...
It's a full blown reimplementation of windows. Basically that
forget learning JaviScript or C++ then
I disagree, encryption stuff is open source and is (usually) free from exploits.
End goal = support not only all windows software but all windows drivers
@rough pulsar Depends highly when it got developed...
encryption stuff - sponsored by NSA
Yes some of the recent linux kernel work to support UEFI lockouts make me sad
I strongly oppose security through obscurity.
backdoor free, pinky promise
Cause one day, someone is bound to find it.
We expected SSL type websites to be safe for ages! But look at heartbleed...
I may have said it somewhere, but the point still stands
Or look at Zip files... those are also not safe most of the time...
Look at facebook. They pay people $20 to install a SSL root certificate on their phone and MITM all web traffic to learn what people do
Or something as simple as DNS being unsafe with DNS Cache Poisoning....
@umbral oracle Im waiting for apple to clap back man
Gonne by hype
But what those examples mean Gallium
Just because its open source, it can be looked at and ect does not mean its any more safe...
It can even mean the opposite if a bad person learn about an exploit first.
As opposed to closed stuff where the vulns can lurk around unnoticed for decades
Even if you close it off you can have exploits. Best are legal exploits of the user, like half the apps on the android app store are probably there to do nothing other than show ads at the expense of users, often including malicious aspects (most android cleaner and security software with 100 million + installs are like this) but the company running the app store (Google) make money by users getting exploited in this way. So they turn a blind eye
You can also not install a flash light app that needs your location, photo's, friends and ect to work...
and forcing those apps to be open source wont change that and that aint really exploits also...
Sorry I'm driving this way off topic. Shall we continue in #general-media
Yeah, was about to say. Besides, I want breakfast.
Or go back to vr headsets
So... Have we covered Cardboard vr?
Lol

Cardboard is the same as Gear? Or is there a difference
Google Cardboard is just a cardboard-shelled VRBox
why would you bring it up jam 
Gear has extra or better quality accelerometers I believe. And maybe some other stuff.
Subject change 
Is Quest the first mobile vr with positioned controller support and head tracking?
discussing brown paper with 2 lenses in it 
Brown paper bag vr?

Sometimes I question whether VR would be durable in a brown paper bag

I do enjoy asking people if they've tried VR before and they say 'yeah, one of those phone things' and then they try my vive and have their minds blown because hands and positional movement and quality visuals
weird flex but ok
wasn't referring to gallium there 
Eheh.. don't mind the yoga-bending screw-ups FBT does when not in use..
I feel like I need a friend with VR now, i've never actually tried it
Where do we see content of VRchat going to?
Like more world focused after Udon or giving us things like 'backpacks'?
Cause someone might be laying hands on the parts
lootboxes.... For avatar slots

@prime coral in bigger tech shops they often let you try it out
@vocal shard I live in a small town 
Still, you get to visit the city with those kinds available.
My whole country doesn't have them on sale
Nor available at all
tbh i think its not really worth it i only got one because im into cyberpunk and stuff
O.o
I can't get enough..
ask anyone with a VR headset to tell you three must have VR games. lets be real most people jsut play VRchat
Because you didn't get touch controllers and try out tilt brush yet. That experience literally sold me in minutes
It's funny because the potential is so enormous, but all I do is sit on benches and play beat Saber
Probably because with VRChat, you get to interact with people from all walks of life
@vocal shard Within this community? Big time yes most people lock hemself into here but there are PLENTY of good smaller VR games
Everyone who's tried my vive wanted one. Usually for tiltbursh.
Without controllers you are just a disembodied head at best. With your whole body there you can control the world around you
No AAA style games that are actually good but smaller indie games? Ow fuck yes
Each person is unique from one another, most of them.
Look at the /r/Steam_VR
the first years of VR most games were really bad and overpriced. i think most devs still dont understand you cant just import classic games into VR. it just doesnt work.
so thats why i didnt get touch
Ow wait that subs death by now forgot that 👀
Guess you haven't seen the 90s.. now that would cost you your health bills
Well yeet over to /r/vive_vr then instead
Or the oculus sub reddit for game trailers/updates
There is really cool shit out there tbh
what i really want is movies made for VR
3D effects, surround sound, those things?
Your looking for a sit and ride experience then
no i just think its an untapped field
You're already pretty fine watching movies in rl.
What I'd love is live theater stuff, viewable in VR.
Set up a load of depth cameras & mics around a theater and broadcast that into VR.
Imteractive movies? Be able to walk but not interact? Or just stereo 360 watching
https://store.steampowered.com/app/974150/WellTown/ Something like this comes close
Will it reduce the fps, though?
Cause those VRC cameras like to consume a lot of FPS back in that Improv show
I mean a real world theater having depth cameras set up, streaming into VR.
Ah..
but why would you emulate something into new tech rather then exploring the tech itself. like composition, cinematography etc. all that good stuff would need to be reinvented for VR movies
much more exciting
imagine riding next to blade runner in a car through a dystopian city
VR movies would be cool, if not almost a completely new medium as you can't frame a shot since the user can look wherever they want. And other things too.
Vr movies will probably be entirely cg
And something like Blade Runner would be a great basis for one since I found loads of the film is about the ambience of the scene, and translating that to VR could work really well.
They call them games
i think i've already seen some movies in the oculus store that can be viewed through the oculus rift, but i think they were all just CG anyway, so 
But moving a person against their will is a no no
Didnt prey get ported over to VR?
no, games are realtime CGI is rendered in advance so it will always look superior to a game
I know that under the sea game did (Its badly ported over)
Pre-rendered, you say?
aye
Speaking of Blade Runner, I should be watching it.. the 1982 one.
The soundtrack to the 82 one is amazing
wait when you render cg doesent the scene basically get recorded as a normal video? Or can it be rendered only for all the events and shadows so the scene remains as a 3d medium
the thing isnt about rendering really but calculating the physics and shadows
That is what is so costly in VR
If you watcha youtube video in Vr its fine
When you start using real time light calculations and shit its when you die
But a 3d VR video can be legit just a few camera's slapped down, seams combined and tada~
No debt but that shit would make the cost insanely high anyway
Cyberpunk's an interesting genre.. The movies like The Matrix and Blade Runner, and games like System Shock and Deus Ex are set in that genre, and they're fantastico.. in the way the atmosphere and story are set up as
If its fully CG you just model and pre render everything with some extra tools
Takes way longer to render but how do you think most game cutscenes work.... They dont render that stuff live..
But the camera way would get only rotation, or well fake spatial movment
Mr. Anderson! We've been expecting you.
The scenery & fashion design in Deus Ex: Human Revolution is absolutely amazing. Completely impractical but who gives a fuck.
Doesn't hold a candle to System Shock 2, though.. You're a soldier who is stuck in the Von Braun, with horrors running among her decks.
A certain voice over your comms reaches you, aiding you for some time, until you reach her office, to your horror, and to the walls giving in to reveal the machine monstrosity behind her corpse
Nothing tops the vibe from Shadowrun for me
The atmosphere's much more different, though. Both Deus Ex and Shadowrun pits you against bad guys.. System Shock? You're basically fighting for your life as you try to get a clue as to what happened to the starship and her crew
Shadowrun Dragonfall isnt really just cyber punk (It has magic and orks and stuff) or as simple as you said.
Tbh im still waiting for more cyberpunkish maps within Vrchat
Yea.. would like to see more of them.
Or the Bunker from NieR: Automata
Crikey, just 7 minutes into Blade Runner.. that bearded guy in a hospital gown gave me a jump
I love how VRchat follows a Tech news reporter btw
I was gonna watch more, but rn.. checking over the VRC pubs first
living the dream
wtf. why i cant join any map while two days already
Clear world cache @foggy raven. There is steps in #vrchat-support
Heyy
@true sky it didn't help
have you tried reinstalling vrchat?
of course
now i have "we are sorry. somrthink wrong" world
for almost three days I just want to play a game
350 gb
for C:/ ?
yes
i have enough free space that's not the point
point is iacutally can join worlds but only with vpn ._.
mayb ur internets blocking it?
something could be preventing it like firewall, av, internet problems, etc
i dunno i called to my provider and they sad its all right, nothing is blocked
I know others have had that problem and can only connect with a vpn
I cant recall the reason why tho
т_т
Just listened to some Nitro Fun. I wish I could find a world that's like a club but you can play music from youtube and dance with people to it.
Just got my vive!
Congratz!
Thanks! My parents surprised me with it! They are even letting me set it up in the biggest room we have!
Its the living room but still im hella stoked
now you can pet lolis
Ravioli ravioli, do not pet the loli.
Keep getting retrying request, because : "object modfication failed." I just edtied this like 20mins ago FINE and now I can't update anything.
Do crunch compressed textures decompress and cache to ram?
I ask because I’m working on something that is needs a 8k texture but I don’t want to kill people’s ram.
ofc. everything gets decompressed to raw at some point
Bake your model
y would u need 8k textures
OW and other high end gameing comps do this.
4k should already be more than enough
use a low res model and a high res one Bake it you'll get high detail but less of the cost.
Does someone know the Owner from Space Vibs ?! He has his Discord linked in the World, but i cant find the person, might changed the name or numbers x.o
Please be aware, there is a crasher in one of The Box rooms, so, whoever the idiotic reprobate is, well done for being idiot of the week
did everyones friends list go blank a few minutes ago?
@stone current animated sprite avatar
Would be pretty small if unity respected the images color index
@sonic verge yes
It’s 9k <5mb in explorer but huge in unity
When I come across people that crash others, I report their avatars as Malicious, yes?
ye
Alright
It’s funny how most of them now hide in Friends or more private servers.
Some times I make new friends, I join on them and I find these losers.
You don't even need crash avatars to boot anyone off now, logout exploit is running around & spreading
It'll soon be just like before the safety settings, where people are knocking each other off nonstop
And an unplayable game
how can you avoid people crushing the server/room :/
Soon? Fairly sure that is already the case 👀
And pineapple- You cant thats the problem
It deals with photon apparently, so gg to that 
A lot of people now just go to priv rooms, or places were not a lot of people go really
So I would avoid, box + pug
Every script kiddie & his grandma is running around with log off exploits now
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go
I very rarely get crashed and when the game crashes it’s because of th game itself, not someone else.
Same ^
Theres a detector for the log out exploit at least.. :/
It’s easy to spot the people you should block
try disabling all the mip mapping and splitting images for actions @opaque hawk
Very easy in fact. Block anyone using neon colors and a gun. Works without fail.
I’ve yet to be wrong.
I just go for anyone that flys

They use really neon bright characters that always have a gun.
not always the case but yeah i guess so
For me, every single case.
Without fail.
Because they’re losers that crave attention so they go for things that are bright and flaring.
the ones that crash randoms
Wew, not surprised at all that they have bots deleting larger posts, this place is way too strict
Kinda why I copy/pasted my reply to begin with


Glad they do.
Must’ve been a freaking huge post.
Don’t really feel like playing this much anymore. It’s just a whole heap of really grating, immature people.
Without my safety settings I can’t go to public worlds. But with my safety settings on, I can’t actually have any fun because everyone looks like shit and can’t even emote at me.
Even when I’m with friends, we’ve got nothing to do because of how limited the worlds are.
So this social game about being, well..social, becomes very insular with groups of people just keeping to themselves and not actually being social.
???? Well thats your choice (: have a great life
I am social WITH my group of friends, they make me happy
Most of my friends have stopped playing for these same reasons. But I guess VRChat just servers as a good entry game into VR, a purpose which it has served well.
Yeah I guess so, I have old friends that stopped too. Its just what you think and i dunno, i go to many worlds with my friend I dont think its too bad
but ok
All my friends enjoy playing because we play together, there are occasions where we go publically and havent experianced that, sometimes we have and its as simple as leaving for us
Idk in public I feel people are less about being social and more about doing a bit/routine :p it’s entertaining and I’m not complaining, but the actual real social stuff happens in friends+
itd be weird if all public worlds were groups sitting at a table and talking
As said, a social game with an insular community. Because people don’t want to experience the shithole that is the public servers. If someone with admin powers simply played th game they could remove so many people in a mere day...
But it wont be exciting ):
I dont think youve been to that many public worlds
I go to some semi regularily, the pug, bowling, etc, and theyre usually pretty chill
Especially bowling
They calmed down more w the crashing, w the new full update i havent gotten crashed, or seen anyone get crashed for a bit. Maybe the game once its once inawhile not even bad...
school maps often also you can socialize, cafes too
We’ve tried taking our whole group to a new public instance, but you’ll just get randoms coming in, not knowing we are all friends, and they start insulting some of us and it’s just awkward
I feel that
Thats never happened to me, we went to the amusement park map and appearntly theres enough of us for it to be under the active maps, and so tons showed up
however it was just another group of friends we never met, they were pretty chill
Its nice to meet more and more people when you join in w friends. We met someone and now theyre with us once inawhile so 😄
the only instance of me being with a group of friends that join the instance is on is whenever Jameskii showed up. if you saw the stream he did during that day, you'll also find me there too.
Yeah same our group is big enough to where if we make a new public room it’ll quickly fill the rest of the way up with randoms
Theres about 9 of us in my group
Oof i dont have many friends, id honestly feel like id be overwhelmed
well see, When I designed the group at first there was just 3 of us excluding myself, then through this discord I found people who were lonely, couldnt find any real friends in game so it becamse a group I made for those very people, people who felt lonely and alone so I could bring them together
We've been a stable group for a month now, but im still working on bringing everyone closer as real freinds


Nyaa.. So nice of you
how do i add a music to one of my avatars? I want a song to one of it. And can someone send a good dance that fits this song. Can send in DM if u wanna know which one it is.
My VRChat is still acting up... reee...
@SFMANIMATOR add an audio source to a game object, then disable the game object. On the first frame of the dance animation, add a key frame to enable the object.
Can’t @ yer name on mobile
@ashen elbow ^
On mobile just press @ and it will pop up a list of the most recent messages and you can select from the list. Or long press a message and do Mention (I'm on iphone)
My VRChat is reading me as another person!
I’m hearing myself talk
I never realized how annoying I was until now.
@safe yacht just block whoever bothers you
That’s what I do and I have plenty of fun
There is, especially if they deserved it 
It sounds more complicated than it is
It basically amounts to “just add the audio to the animation “
^
I don't really know where to post this but people have been asking me about the stencil stuff in my shader so I made a quick tutorial on how to use it. https://youtu.be/mhpm142hs9w
Lets you have eyebrows and eyes render through hair in the style of some anime
that's pretty cool poiyomi
u can also use it to hide objects, by distance for example or by mask
Wondering if this can be used for portal effects
Guys, which headset is more worth it? Cuz I'd get an oculus but there's also the acer wmr headset that's at like $200 right now
I dunno what to pick
Guys, i got kicked from murder map game on vrchat.
So?
for the reason the loud obnoxious
then don't be loud and obnoxious
Also if I had the choice I'd choose the Rift over WMR
@languid beacon yea
@gilded sail acer is better value for doller/experience (cheaper, lighter, higher resolution). Rift is better experience overall (nicer controllers)
that the "mask" part
I got told that the tracking on the acer wmr controllers is shit but I dunno
Which is why I want more info on these two headsets before picking one
I highly disagree as a wmr user with rift experience
I wouldn't say it's shit, but it's not as good as Rift or Vive
it appears to me that he tells me moderation kick
I have a wmr review for vrchat if you are honestly curious. Just type my name and wmr in YouTube
You may lose tracking if you move your hands behind you on WMR, but other than that it's fairly accurate
yea for rift i got full 360 high low and behind 2 sensors
I got kicked myself for not having reset avatar
wat
goopy gona end up being kicked from vrchat and/or the discord also :v
ya
1 sec lemy spam in every channel incomprehensibly (sorta understand this part but just use the spanish chat...) about minor issue until i get attention
You guys have international chats
wat
.
@languid beacon portal effects you say? Check out the world named spatialgate if you haven't already
I know unity can vrc can do them but I really want to be able to make them myself :p will check it out though! Tyvm
Hoi
ahoy hoy
I just wanna play VRChat...
Have you tried logging out of your VRChat account then logging in?
Make a blurry photo :x?
Wat 
i broke my fan
Lmao
Ive done literally everything
Im proud of you my dude- Thats just the first of many broken things from VR
Soon its the wall or shelves
Then your fingers and then your pc/screen
After those 3 times its just instant death so better watch out
oof
broken heart 💔
@languid lake Also all stuff within #vrchat-support
And tried yet to change your DNS?
haHA I DID P GOOD for the entire year in vr with out brokeing any thuing
My game registers me as a different player so when I speak, the avatar's mouth doesn't move while my voice echoes and I've been waiting a day for a staff member to reply.
DNS?
Ow i was thinking you could not log in
Well tried using a default avatar yet?
And do others hear you?
Ive uninstalled steam and reinstalled it, did the same for VR chat, people can hear me not echo but I hear myself, I have messed with my settings, exc.
Am I going to get in trouble for pinging a staff member? I have been waiting a full day and no reply...
people can hear me not echo but I hear myself
So other cant hear you
But You can hear yourself in an echo?
Yes.
If so- Make sure you have the right microphone as the default within windows
Yes
VRchat only uses the one that windows has listed as default/main
It wont use any other and you cant change it ingame
It is affected VRChat. And when I turn voices down, it stops.
I do not echo on discord.
What windows do you use
http://www.simplehow.tips/a/66/how-to-enable-and-set-default-Microphone-in-windows-10
Do for microphone you want to use in VRchat
And as its midnight for me id rather not jump into a VC
I know how to set it
That is not the problem
I set it up just fine like everything else.
The thing is- Discord auto finds the best microphone to use and allows you to change it
For the input and output
VRchat doesnt after the unity change. So because of that you need to preset everything in windows so audio works ingame.
I know but it still set up the way it was beforew
The same mic, the same input, the same everything.
You stated withni user support you reset ya pc and the game so was just making sure
Mhm
@umbral reef #general-media i have found the best vr game
I am still impressed I have not broken anything yet. Hit? Yes. Hurt? Yes. Broken? No.
Need more tape
nah
I do not want to ping a staff member since i do not want to get kicked but what am I supposed to do?
Well you send that support email?
Yesterday yes.
Then there is nothing else you can do beside wait
The staff here dont work for the game so they cant help you and the devs/admins dont provide support over discord
Hecc...
I’ve broken many glasses, many lamps, a hairbrush and a light. But I’ve also spilled a lot of water
oof
i not broken anything even with a tiny playspace
and i even done the just dance map in full body
Water is probably the most dangerous. It can break electronics
or shards
I've unplugged vive 3 times dancing and walking in circles. Hit controllers on walls. I always keep my blinds closed, those things probably protected my glass windows countless times
do u guys even use guardiann system xd
I had more accidents playing crazy in full body with chaperone on then when I was playing several weeks with chaperone turned off completely. The chaperone gets off in certain cases.
Pro tip: don’t play vr in the wine cellar
since my playspace so smal it activate frequently but good for orientation and knowing where u should be
With chaperone off you're staying in thr center of your playspace but I now like to walk around with turning my playspace so I go near the edges a lot more
most ive done is liek hit furniture but nothing fragile
But bright white snow worlds cover up the chaperone and some of my near accidents are from those
Ya I have my fade distance all the way up so I always see my chaperone. It's actually more immersive since I don't need to think about where I am, let the chaperone do the work while I get to play in the virtual world
How are all these VRChat prefabs being made?
Community members via unity
Afaik there's no scripting allowed, and VRChat triggers alone can't accomplish these things
the Unity Standard Assets have some very powerful components. UI Button and Input Field components have a lot of actions available and can be activated through triggers or animation events. Particles and collisions.
By the time udon comes out we might not even need it any more at the rate the community is going 😉
when or if
The event system is turing complete. It may be slow, it may use too much memory, but in theory, you can script with rocks and lines in sand.
😃 xkcd reference
👌
wuf
Oh, cool! Do I just call whatever functions I wish?
And being turing complete doesn't mean that it's not limited in some aspects.
For example, making something which shuffles a deck of cards seem like a ton of work
I can't even play sounds. VRC player is bricked for me, and audiobanks play the first song in them at various speeds and they don't react to Play() which by default is set to only activate for other players for some reason
Yes any function it lets you should be ok. Lots of combos don't work. Just play around with it. Lots of trial and error
Well you have the entire unity animation system at your disposal. Many stuff that would be “scripting” are just animations. The only hard part is cold hard logic, which isn’t usually THAT complex for VRChat worlds
It's too much trial and error since I usually have to launch it to test, and when I search, all I can find is other people who has given up. The audio bank component might not even work
I don't understand animators. I was hoping I could live without, but it seems I will just need to learn them
Ui buttons and animators are nice to work with because you can test them just by opening play mode
Animations are a huge part of unity and game engines in general
Pretty much everything in games that isn’t directly being controlled by the player is an animation
Good point. And I can program, so it feels wrong to set up huge grids of triggers and advanced animations to do simple things
And it’s not just bones swinging around, you can automate any parameter of anything in the scene via animation
if I mute someone.. do they know i muted them?
Not all parameters show up when you make animations btw, not all can be changed either even if it looks like it
Well if you prefer to code stuff to create it, you can. You just can’t have custom code that is executed for /runtime/
VRChat voice mute? Yes
But everything fun I want to do is runtime, and Unity is strange and unreliable
In my old world, over half my time was spend fighting a bug. Luckily, somebody made a canny and explained that prefabs will need to have unique names to not overwrite eachother at random
Maybe wait for udon it might be your thing I suppose
Yeah, but will it be a week? Month? Year?
This year most probably
Is full body tracking only supported on vrchat?

And how long can I use it before it's temporarely shot down because of an exploit? 😛
@gilded sail there are a few other steam games with full body support besides vrchat, yes. Not many
u can make ur own tho
Btw is it possible to change trigger vrchat text? I want another text color. White is not visible most of the time, it's also too big
theres api already for like unity and unreal i think
but i only seen like 2 game with it
Anyway I could ask for VRchat to revert my name change?
what happens if i block myself
Turn into gasper the blocked ghost
How.. do you block yourself?
I know you can kick yourself. And yes, you get kicked. And trust docked.
@tacit plank a lot of the big vrchat world contributors actually don't hook triggers themselves but program editor scripts to generate things
But I don't think you can block yourself there.
That sounds cool
See if I were making this API, I would make it so it’s absolutely impossible to block yourself legitimately through the client but if you do it through the API then you just can’t see yourself anymore. Because I’m evil.
Hmm, spawn prefab is always global, but UI menus are always local (by default)
Which will win?
the vrchat sdk will become slow or crash if you display the trigger component of anything with lots of actions
Lol, sounds like something wasn't made well
Most triggers should be local. You want as few global triggers as possible, like announcing something important to everyone else in the world
I want players to have a local tablet which spawns items globally
Ya that's a common thing in many worlds, just don't put object sync on the tablet but make some triggers on each buttons or use a canvas full of ui buttons that fire tiggers - like what avatar testing does
I was planning on doing that, I didn't know that avatar testing worked like that, but I guess that means it's definitely possible
Not just avatar testing. Lots of worlds use local ui panels that you can pick up and take with you. It's lots of fun to have your own control panel in hand
Yeah I use that for player teleportation triggers. Hitting a button on the panel turns on an object with a local teleport trigger
But that could just be a global trigger for spawning a prefab
Will it be global by default? I heard spawn is always global, but UI is local, so I'm wondering how that will work..
I've just found CyanLaser's world tutorials btw, after watching a few I think I have an idea of how it works
https://gyazo.com/a632b11f0d74349937223917cf5f6b67 how can i fix this it just started today cant use my fullbody or openvr ect
@tacit plank there are some really great tutorials. Also don't be afraid to ask in #world-development or #event-system-sdk2 . Cyan and others frequent those forums and someone knowledgeable will probably be able to answer your questions without them getting lost in general chat.
I am looking for any avatars that does crazy stuff, like the loud music and makes your screen look like a club type of thing, if anyone has any one i can clone can you let me know? i don't know if this is the right place to ask, if it isn't let me know.
I feel that up-to-date tutorials are few, or at the very least, hard to find
I will ask in those channels if I need specific help though, thank you!
pls don't get an avatar like that. It's annoying and obnoxious
you wont last long on vrchat if you are looking to cause issues for other user's
^
the trust system does a pretty good job
Being a general nuisance to people in VRChat won't get you anywhere.
Now.. where should I start with this?
well, it'll get you a nuisance rank
The Pug is quite nice.
A good job at what? lol
nuisance is extremely hard to get, i've met plenty who deserve it and don't have it
60% trusted users need it
You've admitted you barely play VRChat and when you do lock yourself away in private Omega, so you probably don't realize there's plenty of people who have been crashing and causing issues for hundreds of hours of gametime without so much as a short suspension
Anyone stuck in login loop?
Lots of people, for about a month or two now
Grrrrrr
Yea.. I always seem to get the login loop bug every now and then when I'm playing VRChat
It's typically latency related
high ping = login loop, farmboy internet = login loop
Never had the login loop bug other than 9 months ago when we had server issues and the hub was everyones default home 😛
Can someone help me? I'm having trouble with this Avatar and I'm not sure what to do.
The model is showing up as purple.
Nevermind, I figured out the textures.
Now I'm having trouble getting the Emotes and gestures into it.
Sup noobs
What?
High ping fixed I hear.
How can i check if i was banned? Because now i cant play without vpn
if you were banned, it will tell you when you try to log in
If you can play with or without vpn, you are not banned. Also you create worlds and are probably not abusive so you should be able to get back your account by emailing support.
Maybe go and try the open beta. It's supposed to fix disconnects caused by ping related issues
no, it did not help 😦



why is there not a portuguese international text chat
Why is there not an English international text chat

Why isnt there a second dutch channel
why do they need one? 
Some of them are starting to make a prescence, however small they are
double dutch
Anybody know why I might be struggling really badly with VRChat? A couple months ago I was able to play the game fine, but recently I’ve noticed that it struggles with fewer people and smaller maps.
Something the issue with your hardware?
Not from what I can tell, but I’m no tech wizard.
Hmm.. Maybe it's got to do with your Nvidia/AMD graphics settings?
Probably had some options set to prioritize battery over graphical performance.
@edgy pendant check the performance of the avatars around you and mainly the dynamic bones amount
Make sure all drivers and ect are up to date
I mean there’s a high chance it’s my old ass CPU, but it was handling the game alright up until some time recently.
I may just go straight to an i7 and upgrade my motherboard while I’m at it.
Hmm.. so money isn't your concern?
Well, it is, but I’d rather have something more up to date.
I’m willing to save up more for a better PC.
Ah.. that's nice

Morning
G'morning, Kry10
I’m still buzzing from yesterday
Mornin'
Had my best stream session ever, lots of viewers, not double figures yet, but, a definite improvement
morning everyone~
Morning ^^
G'morning, Mimi ^^
Hoping I can hit double figures this Sunday
In views?
Viewers
I’m over 7k in views
And over 300 followers
I’m one step away from affiliate
Yea.. the more people see the more mature side of VRChat.. the more people will hear of VRC as such.
Hope you keep up the good work there
Thanks bud, i do have a laugh though, but, I don’t do anything that would put VRChat in a bad light
I can see that
An Eleanor?
Yeah, can’t remember their full name
But, they rp’d as a little girl, their voice was incredible
Damn.. seems like a fun time there
It was, we was in her house, her mummy was telling the story of how she adopted eleanor, she acted out sitting on the floor eating grass, was so cute
In VRChat?
I admire and really appreciate the time and effort that goes into creating something like that
Yeah, in VRChat
Ah, sorry.. I thought something else there
But man.. that's some well-done RP right there.
Lol, nah, it was in VRChat, the only other rp player I admire is BunBun
They’re so cool, no voice, just fbt and jingle bells and a squeeker
But, it’s so believable
Ah.. that's nice to hear
They’re the only one I’ve ever seen doing that
Pretty sure, if RP had an icon, it would be them and Eleanor
You have your cute mutes, the ones who talk, but, only BunBun does that
I see...
Excellent :>
Noice ^^
Poggers!
Now I get to be Karen Kujou
Wasn't there an avatar like that in the Avatar Cafe world?
I don’t know, tbh
I’ve been to a lot of avatar worlds, but I haven’t seen them yet
I think you should give that a visit
I remember that there is a Kujo Karen avatar there, alongside some Kannas
I’ll have to judge it’s quality against the one I was going to upload
I had only been following a tutorial on how to import custom avatars
🅱ustom
The Casual person who jumps into an international chat and interupts a converstation by posting a random gif
Why do you do this?
why not
MOEW
what is up with vrchat lately, im getting veery often loadingscreen bugs where i only get 0% loading into a world with 0/0 MB
Just found out Lycon makes x90 more profit in VRC than me, now I'm sad.
But pandiman can do za worldo and stop time
ad a article on dogos
Write one and he most likely will add it
yey
i wish RoVR wasnt failed kickstarter tho
i nevr herd of it so prob didnt get baccing bc bad marketing
no but liek
who wuldnt want it rite but no marketing so no 1 knew
idk if they even gonna focus on it anymoar
nothin on they twitter and website is ded
i wouldnt say marketing is harder if the game is good
so in VR you have more emotes than on Desktop.(execlude VR motion) ??
maybe i didnt explain it well
No?
in vr you can do two at the same time, is that what you mean?
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I know guys I'm crazy.. .s

@queen mango which Cafe do I go to for the Karen Kujō avatar?
does anyone here have an issue with the login in into vrchat ? pls help
Does anyone know why vrchat still locks your cursor, even in desktop
it seems so incredibly bad
Sometimes i have to close it down via command line when another program overlays over and i cant move my cursor.
fullscreen
it does the same thing in fullscreen though, locking cursor when loading the UI etc.
Or open your menu
tab into the game then out
will not load worlds. And all. I can't go to any location. Return home. that's it. Reinstalling the program does not solve the problem. Steam also checked the chat files, everything is fine.
Just go into the menu hit world (brings up the worlds list) than go to a different program, this keeps ur mouse from locking up
@turbid agate
sometimes it locks my cursor and alt tabbing doesnt work
@robust prairie Pretty late, but I think it's just called the Avatar Cafe.
That’s why I said if ur in the world list.... it doesn’t lock it up @turbid agate
Atleast for me
opening the menu at all disables mouse lock
which is a bit of a pain, it should at least lock it to the window
every time I go to select avatars I end up clicking my taskbar
Yeah opening menu before using oculus dash is pretty standard for me now. I’ll keep doing it even when I no longer have to
onlyw ay to change password is through password recovery right? through email?
you can just normally change it on your profile?
where,,
login and then you have that little pen symbol

no he aint a homie he is a qtie 😉
A cutie neko 🙃
wat aboot me'
Ah.. you'd be a umm.. floofy Shoobie?
@queen mango I'll have the to look again tomorrow if I'm online, cause I didn't see it when I searched today
ima pley vrcat s00n
Oof.. alright.
so um any1 know of avatar worlds with avatars that have special ablilities?
What do you mean by special abilities?
In before screen zoom shader
Frozone 💦
I’m going through VRChat with drawl
Same
My VRChat broke... Waiting on a reply from customer support... I haven’t been able to stream...
Nuuuu
My voice echoes since the game detects me as a separate person from my character and I don’t know how to fix it.
I’ve reset the dang computer 2 times! Still broken!
That is so weird, I’d like to see video footage of that because that is so bizarre.
Mind linking it?
I’ll do it in DMs
Thx
so my heaset isntt here yet but im going to need longer cables to get out of the corner im in does anyone know if that has any adverse effects on performance or should i just move my desk
Oh my friend has that glitch too, idk how he fixrd it tho
long cable runs can get an issue, especially with USB3.0
i just maybe need an extra 7-10 feet






