Its not that hard to decimate untill 70K :X
#vrchat-general-2
umbral reef
floral aspen
^
edgy marlin
Yikes.
ruby needle
since we're at 70k max now there is absolutely zero reason to do it too
and even more reason to punish tos breaks in that regard
edgy marlin
I am currently trying to optimize this 300k poly tail. Its hard with the way its set up. I literally uploaded it once to see how the bones worked before I went and optimized the tail down, but about 10 minutes after the upload I got banned for modified client.
floral aspen
wut
edgy marlin
Mhmm
velvet quarry
You may want to consider looking for models that aren't meant for industry level pixar movies.
floral aspen
^
edgy marlin
A tail ive seen on PUBLIC avatars
umbral reef
That would fit under the malicious trigger for the game lmao
edgy marlin
So I mean. 
languid beacon
Yes an avatar can be anything you want. If you want it to work in vr though, you’ll need a head and arms. If you want full body, you’ll need to fulfill unity’s humanoid spec. You can always add extra bones or make parts invisible, of course.
If you don’t care about mocap there are no limits to what you want to be
tidal aspen
there are way more optimized ways to create "fur"
gleaming patio
fuzz shader
umbral reef
Please dont use the public free to use shaders though because those are laggy AF
tidal aspen
not even that you can just have a bunch of quads and texture it properly to make fake fur
gleaming patio
oh like they did in the past
languid beacon
I don’t see how needing than 70k tris is remotely necessary
gleaming patio
(haha)
languid beacon
Even when the limit was 20k I was thinking no one needs more than 40k
edgy marlin
Like I said, Im trying to optimize it, but got banned not even 10 minutes after.
languid beacon
Well you used a modified client
gleaming patio
with 700k, that's no wonder
languid beacon
Which you were clearly told was against the rules?
edgy marlin
My av isnt 700k
languid beacon
And would lead to a Ban
gleaming patio
i mean 300
edgy marlin
The tail itself is 300k being lowered and optimized.
Ive been trying to optimize my shit for a long time and havent had any problems until now
gleaming patio
you gotta work on that optimizing because 300k for a tail is not optimized from the vrchat point of view
umbral reef
But you said the ban was 7 days?
If so count yourself lucky- Learn how to optimize and make avatars the upcomming weak then and sit it out
As normally these bans can go up to 30 days or permanent
languid beacon
I’ll be honest with you I had no idea they are finally banning for modified SDKs but they’ve been saying it’s bannable forever
languid beacon
300k is more than most worlds
edgy marlin
With the amount of people who have over 1 millions poly avatars then make them public. Even the avatars that have cancer animations and they dont get removed, Idk maybe Im just like hello?
umbral reef
@languid beacon Fairly sure they only ban if its malicious style
With his amount you can maybe even crash someone if you gotta load it all into the same amount
velvet quarry
Hopefully the people who do that get banned aswell
umbral reef
@edgy marlin Report them and they will get punished. Its that simple
Just because someone else broke the rules doesnt mean you can also...
gleaming patio
1 million poly? just go ahead and upload the model of kratos from the new god of war game LOL
velvet quarry
That other people do it doesn't make it fine for you to do it.
edgy marlin
I have!
gleaming patio
hell noctis from ff15 is "only" 100k originally
umbral reef
Well- We are saying this but meanwhile the team still gives special privileges to some worlds to not follow the ules...
gleaming patio
mgsv snake 18k
edgy marlin
Still, Im presenting my view point on the situation. Theres people in this game that are breaking every rule there is about avatars and are perfectly fine, but the minute I test the waters to make sure the bones in my tail work before trying to optimize the poly count of it, I get banned? Maybe Im just a little salty.
umbral reef
You do know you can also test that stuff within blender and unity?...
And again- Just because others do it and get away does not mean you should try it also.
Il say it again, you are really lucky it was only a week ban and not more what they normally give out..
vocal shard
so how many bones are we talking about? 🍿
gleaming patio
did you test it in a private world
edgy marlin
I was in a public box, but it was empty at the time.
Ive had experiences in the past where the testing in Unity/Blender was different then inside the actual game.
umbral reef
Gotta test with the right bones then
languid beacon
That content was uploaded when the limit was 20k and there was already plans to increase it as it was very limiting. Now that the limit is 70k, breaking the rules is far more inexcusable so they are clearly inforcing it now
edgy marlin
They need to start warning tbh.
vocal shard
this is the warning
edgy marlin
Thats one hell of a warning
sharp spruce
You broke the TOS with a modded SDK, over 4x the poly limit is a pretty extreme case, and that's just counting for the tail you put in, be happy you weren't banned for longer than a week.
languid beacon
Your week ban was a warning.
umbral reef
You went out of your way to edit objects within the game...
Others games also do not warn if you install an aimbot for example so...
languid beacon
It’s normally 4 years.
edgy marlin
Aimbot is a client based
This was a simple editing of the script to test something 😂
languid beacon
Seriously, don’t mod the client or SDK.
umbral reef
You do realize editing the SDK is a clientside edit :X
vocal shard
still curious why you only mention the tail too
edgy marlin
I didnt make it
vocal shard
🤔
edgy marlin
I literally tested then was gonna optimize
languid beacon
Everything you do on your computer is clientside. Not sure how that matters
edgy marlin
I happened to be in an empty public box too.
polar bone
Why couldn't you test it in unity
fresh charm
are vrc servers down i cant connec
shows vrc logo then logging in and repeat
polar bone
Hmm, I have an avatar that breaks the rules. Let's upload it, then see what I can do to make it not break the rules after I've already broken them. After all, it's just for testing, right?
This is your fault
edgy marlin
EMPTY public box. 😂 I wasnt even in the av for very long either.
sharp spruce
You have a full week to optimize it, and you probably won't make the same mistake again, right? Move on.
vocal shard
^
edgy marlin
Moderation team should pay more attention to what is in the community rather than just my polycount for a short time 
Cause crashers are still out there clapping people and people who are actually using clients and disconnecting people/pulling information like User IDs and Steam IDs but dont get banned
polar bone
It happened, you've got your warning, move on. The more you argue, the less we'll support you. Let this be a lesson for next time.
vocal shard
yes, it's the mods who are wrong here, clearly 🤔
ruby needle
You need to pay attention to all sites even if you cant cover the more heavy ones completely
vocal shard
and everybody else
umbral reef
So they should not punish the small crimes- Neato
And you think they dont go after those peeps once there stuff triggers or they get reports?...
ruby needle
cus else people continously break those
edgy marlin
polar bone
Also stop using that crasher thing as a scapegoat. You still did something wrong
edgy marlin
Just saying
vocal shard
there should be bans for trying to rally people in discords
polar bone
ruby needle
Anyway, enogh of that topic please make sure you revert everrything back to official state and no more talking about your ban here 
polar bone
edgy marlin
tacit plank
They could automatically ban every avatar with above 70k polies
vocal shard
I mean what 
tacit plank
Is going above the other limits against the rules btw? I haven't tried to upload anything "very bad", so I don't know if the SDK is meant to stop you
ruby needle
i saw the message and that emote
ruby needle
if you want to get a kick in the butt just ping some admins and i'll send you on your way 
polar bone
the only other limits I know of are size limits, I've gone over that a few times
languid beacon
As I understand it. You can momentarily be above 70k with props and animations. The SDK does not care and I’m pretty sure it’s intentional
tacit plank
Besides the poly limit. 200 dynamic bones are worse than 100k polygons though, so it seems weird only to enforce the poly limit
ruby needle
purposly abusing that is still not permitted.
polar bone
I once tested going as small as possible, there's a reason the sdk tries to stop you
You can't access your menu if you're too small
tacit plank
Mine is like 80 kilometers due to snail-marker. The SDK saw my avatar as small though
languid beacon
Yeah near clip is an issue
vocal shard
Oh yeah, sure, I won't mod the client, only bad people do that 
I am a rule abiding player
languid beacon
I wish near clip was adjustable via shader
tacit plank
I follow every rule that makes sense
languid beacon
But I think it’s a fundamentally camera thing
rough pulsar
As far as I know, near & far clip happen before shader stuff
polar bone
Having a giant avatar is interesting. I once had a world with a grabbable chair, and a small and big avatar. One person has small, the other person big, small would sit in chair, big will l would sit grab the chair. The size difference was amazing
tacit plank
I hated the old polygon limit, but the new one is reasonable. I have never gone past 70k polygons because there's no good reason to
gloomy charm
Yeah 65k would break some of mine in unity
vocal shard
not in 2017
gloomy charm
In the older version
rough pulsar
20k was the worst, because often you just needed around 22k to fit some bits and pieces in but HAHA NOPE
vocal shard
yeah 65k used to be the hardware drawcall limit
tacit plank
Yeah, Unity devs have no sense of numbers. I hope they fix their shitty floating point values next
vocal shard
it made sense, it was the drawcall limit
polar bone
Trying to decimate a 40k avatar was grueling
languid beacon
Yeah most models tended to have this 22k to 27k sweet spot
vocal shard
but GPUs got bigger
tacit plank
It was a limit in Unity, not in say Blender, and maybe not even in-game in VRChat
polar bone
Vrchat is unity
vocal shard
it was the limit for hardware
rough pulsar
Wasn't it something to do with old hardware, since the limit was the max 16bit int
dark narwhal
40k was always a decent sweet spot saddly
polar bone
new poly limit of 1k seems reasonable
tacit plank
Past 65535, Unity would split meshes
vocal shard
not just unity
tacit plank
But now that Unity learned how to use 32 bit, there's no problems anyways
So Unity was the problem
languid beacon
I’d have been perfectly happy with 32k. 70k is more than needed so anyone who needs more the heck you doin
tacit plank
VRChat might no longer work on my old GT9800, but that's fine
I keep seeing 250K polygon avatars, and they make me angry
vocal shard
report them
tacit plank
Recently I saw one with 120+ meshes
sharp spruce
Most of the heavier ones I see are around 50k, just with insane amounts of dynamic bones and colliders
tacit plank
I can report users, but how do I report avatars?
Do I report them, or the avatar creator?
It's a little unclear
polar elm
Send the moderation team a email
tacit plank
Yeah. "Dynamic bones collision checks: 2173"
Wtf?
languid beacon
I wish people were as concerned with material count as they are with triangles.
tacit plank
That's a lot of work. And yeah, most people don't seem to know that materials are generally worse
sharp spruce
If you use the cats plugin in blender, it's easy as hell to merge materials
hollow umbra
If you are somewhat proficient in blender, it’s pretty easy to merge material
polar bone
Merging only works on repeat materials, there's still going to be quite a few non repeats because mmd models use separate textures for everything
tacit plank
The new cats thing is flawless. You just click checkboxes and then save the atlas, and it works
It used to have some issues though
sharp spruce
There are tools to make a combined texture atlas in a few clicks, yeah. Easy as can be.
dark narwhal
When i see super unoptimized avatars i will report the creator and advise the user to swap avatar to avoid being reported. Is that the best course of action?
tacit plank
I don't see what can go wrong if you make it 2 atlases. Where the last one is for transparent stuff. With just 1, it might be difficult to get the eyes to render correctly.
polar bone
Just vadv practice
dark narwhal
there is a report option for it
polar bone
Oh ok
dark narwhal
so it must be
tacit plank
It's against the rules, and it makes you an asshole if you're aware of it
polar bone
Haven't played in a while
ruby needle
the only thing you can really report for is over 70k polygons else its not against the rules to have "very poor" avatars unless its ridiculus and literally kills the performance on its own
tacit plank
Especially if you made the avatar.
Making a pretty avatar is 10 times harder than optimizing it. So if you know how to do one thing, you will know how to do the other
languid beacon
As far as dynamic bones go I could have them off on my client and it probably would not negatively impact my enjoyment of the game in any way. None of my avatars use them and I don’t pay much attention to them on other people. Lol
dark narwhal
yes i only report high poly the rest is technically not against rules
tacit plank
They can look cute, but in general they're overrated. Not worth cutting my FPS in half over
sharp spruce
There's a big difference between a model with a few dynamic bones and one with dozens and a bunch of colliders.
dark narwhal
or if i find a 300 mesh model...
tacit plank
Some have more dynamic bones than my own avatar even has bones. And then colliders on top...
languid beacon
Just because your client says they are over 70k does not mean they broke the rules. Your client could have profiled them just as they were using a prop and now those stats are cached.
hollow umbra
90% of the people who use dynamic don’t actually own dynamic bones 
polar bone
tru
languid beacon
I own dynamic bone AND don’t use it, how bou day
dark narwhal
well thats not for me to decide ill let the admins figure that out
tacit plank
70 or 80k is not an issue. But if they're like 240k you know they've modded the SDK
tacit plank
Same Adeon
hollow umbra
@tacit plank don’t give people ideas
tacit plank
The SDK thing? It has been common knowledge for almost a year now
polar bone
Yeah
tacit plank
They even made it easy. Just change the number format for polygons to hex or something, and half the people who want to mod the SDK won't know what to do
polar bone
I figured out how to do it on my own
hollow umbra
Still shouldn’t be talked about
dark narwhal
whats an sdk 
tacit plank
I found more interesting things in the SDK. VRChat seems to support sideways gravity?
languid beacon
Software development kit.
sharp spruce
salt deposit kangaroo
tacit plank
Not sure that even requires modding
polar bone
what's an sdk
dark narwhal
super deadly kittens
sharp spruce
I've got one of those! 🚂
languid beacon
Thinking of avatars as software is weird
dark narwhal
i think of them as time sinks
median basalt
@ruby needle poor performance is a report reason
Tupper said that any excessively unoptimized avatar can and should be reported
But nothing is done with the reports since Shonzo's world is still up
So you might as well not bother
tacit plank
Even that year-old Unitychan world has lots of "very poor" avatars
dark narwhal
if the blueprint ids of avatars got banned more often the copying system would not be as cancerous as well
hollow umbra
Why are rigidbodies considered unoptimized when it’s pretty much required for avatars with many limbs FeelsBadMan
polar bone
Is Tupper a meme
tacit plank
Has anyone even profiled rigidbodies?
ruby needle
i said that tho 
dark narwhal
very poor and excessively unoptimized is a difference...kinda
ruby needle
"... its not against the rules to have "very poor" avatars unless its ridiculus and literally kills the performance..."
dark narwhal
yee
tacit plank
Should maybe write that on the avatar report menu
dark narwhal
people cant read
hollow umbra
Yesterday I encountered someone with a logout client, he blocked me and other witnesses and proceed to lag out the entire server. How fast do mods take to catch those kinds of people
hollow umbra
It was a public world
median basalt
All the game's moderation is passive, not active.
vocal shard
They aren't stupid enough to pop in there 😛
hollow umbra
He was a trusted user too
dark narwhal
hes refering to admins
tacit plank
I saw Tupper doing newyears
median basalt
Of course they are, the trust system did nothing to stop crashers in particular. It just affects like 80% of people, crasher or not.
tacit plank
I also saw a few avatars with above 70k polygons in there. Doubt Tupper did anything about them, not that I paid enough attention to say for sure
dark narwhal
doesnt stop crashers but it does help people avoid certain crashes the could not do as effieciently before
tacit plank
Various updates almost stopped particle crashers. Not crashers in general though
Can I still remove the local particle layer with a .json file? Or was that removed? I want it back (particle filter)
dark narwhal
the perticle limiter is great but should have been more forced into the game menu wise
vocal shard
upping poly count was just a way to make people stop moaning.. we all know that mostly all of them were breaking the cap long before anyways.
median basalt
Safety system basically just turns off certain features, being able to restrict it by rank doesn't make much difference
tacit plank
Only because everyone is "trusted" now
hollow umbra
Still waiting for the dynamic bones toggle update
median basalt
Not really
tacit plank
People complained that they didn't have it, so they made it super easy to get
median basalt
A shitton of people are below trusted in public
Blocking effects on trusted users will stop roughly the same amount of crashers as blocking visitors and new users
tacit plank
I see more trusted than anything else
median basalt
Do you hang out in Friends+ a lot?
Because a lot of people in the Friends+ lobbies I join are trusted
dark narwhal
i just block animations if i block anything
vocal shard
The only verfied trusted's should be those that actually work in improving this community with content thats actually created by them.
median basalt
Or when I join on groups of friends in public etc
tacit plank
50/50 public and friends+. I join publics with a friend group though
hollow umbra
My group of friends are 90% trusted
stoic halo
my friends are mostly user
sharp spruce
I've only been particle crashed once, usually people just run shaders on you, and safety settings do nothing to prevent that. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
stoic halo
really its useless to. block anything now
vocal shard
Even disabling animations?
stoic halo
logouts, disconnect, particle, mesh, shader crashes
vocal shard
With Udon we can prevent users from using shaders and particles though, by simply making the maps shaders used and all others could be denied.. so like this people cant fuck arround.
hollow umbra
Making the game boring
dark narwhal
once i met a guy telling people if they are on his friends list they wont get crashed but thats ironic because pretty much everyone has no safety settings for friends and so they would just be hit in the crossfire
vocal shard
if boring means harrasing others then i will make all my releases boring.
tacit plank
Not sure what you mean. They can already stop people from uploading shaders, but that would be no fun
stoic halo
really the solution shouldn't have to be "butcher the game" to stop being crashed
like to prevent crashes you basically make everything look like a potato and no animations
and you can still get logged and disconnected
vocal shard
If you can come up with a better solution than blacklisting go ahead
because im sure as shit the team themself havent really got any idea how to stop it either..
stoic halo
limiting lol
dark narwhal
ive seen good blacklisting solutions im not allowed to talk about
stoic halo
more than just particles.
dark narwhal
shader
gloomy charm
Oh?
vocal shard
You cant limit it.. it wont work.. limit poly cout - broken.. limit particle - broken..
stoic halo
polys dont do shit
vocal shard
people find a way to fuck the system no matter what you do
stoic halo
if they made a proper limit system then sure
because you can bypass it with a simple fucking ini edit.
tacit plank
Staff should actually moderate the game. Automatically blacklist every avatar that goes above 150k polygons and warn or temp ban the creator.
Make the SDK prevent uploading of avatars with above 50 materials or meshes, or 1K dynamic bones collision checks.
These should all be easy to do
hollow umbra
I have a solution, stop using a laptop 😂
stoic halo
really have a proper system
dark narwhal
yee but with shaders blacklisting certain words in the shader code itself can solve most issues with those
stoic halo
and. not rely on people to not go into the sdk files
tacit plank
In big rooms, you will get like 20 FPS in VR
hollow umbra
No
tacit plank
It doesn't matter what hardware you buy, either
gloomy charm
Same
hollow umbra
I get 90 most of the time
tacit plank
Try joining Noracat or Nekomasu
stoic halo
only time my fps dies is in the pug
hollow umbra
Sounds like a bunch of weeaboo names LUL
stoic halo
or cafe leblanc
umbral reef
You do realize you can disable materials
Use the particle LIMITER (not disable it)
and be really fine because no one fucking bothers with mesh/poly crashing and that can also be auto detected
stoic halo
people still do it
tacit plank
They're not weebs, they're actual japanese people
stoic halo
because theres a ban bypass exploit apparently going around.
tacit plank
Point is, if you join a room with more than 10 people, your FPS will start to drop. And in big instances, you will never get a good FPS
vocal shard
Q: How to know when you have lost the war.. A: players bypass an admins ban.
tacit plank
The issue is mainly shitty avatars
hollow umbra
10 people? Lol
dark narwhal
blocking materials is gross i rather block animations
stoic halo
lol u must have a bad system or smth
tacit plank
You can't bypass bans
stoic halo
because 10 people is nothing
vocal shard
Sword of 1000 truths is bypass admin ban rl.
stoic halo
caffeine you say that yet theres an exploit going around that does it
tacit plank
There isn't, it's a hoax, like the 100 hoaxes before it
gloomy charm
I use a laptop and survived a logout attempt in the pug.
hollow umbra
@gloomy charm nice my dude
stoic halo
bet you i could find it on forums.
tacit plank
Bet you it just steals your VRChat account and sends it to whoever coded it
vocal shard
Its hard to believe yeah but.. we are talking about vrchat here.. it has a silly amount of people abusing so.. i wouldn't be suprised
hollow umbra
@gloomy charm can I ask your specs
stoic halo
no system is issue free. especially vrchat
like how is there an exploit that logs you out
tacit plank
I have a bad GPU, and my friends will get more FPS than me.. Until we go to a room with lots of people. It doesn't matter if you have a 1080TI, you will get like 20 FPS
stoic halo
ive never heard of a game that had that
tacit plank
Because dynamic bones will be shitting on your CPU
tacit plank
Are you on VR?
hollow umbra
I am
vocal shard
I heard tale of people that were using WPE and server was authing false packets.. i've been here forever.. but i assumed we would actually have security.. but looks like we have servers authing false packets.. and thats ancient history.. many servers have that sorted out long ago, yet here we are.
tacit plank
My CPU is only 15% away from the best in the world
sharp spruce
I get ~70fps in crowded rooms
hollow umbra
I9? @tacit plank
stoic halo
neat, apparently not when you start to lag with 10 people lmao
tacit plank
i7 or i9 is the same for VRchat
stoic halo
im usually around 20 with my group.
dark narwhal
my belly button is only 15%...
stoic halo
still chilling 70ish fps
tacit plank
It multithreads badly. Newer CPUs have more cores, but VRChat does not care much past 4 of those
sharp spruce
I've got an 8 core, never thought to check the thread usage ingame
tacit plank
Those 36 core CPUs will likely run worse than an average i7 actually
stoic halo
ive never bothered to check because ive never had issues
vocal shard
I have a 16 thread ryzen 1700.. but yeah vrchat doesnt utilize this cpu correctly.. most games dont to be fair.
tacit plank
i7 4790k. Look up the single-thread performance leaderboard online. It's onlt 15% behind the best on the market
hollow umbra
1060 are fairly cheap now
floral aspen
leah are most of your groups avatars rated medium or higher?
dark narwhal
i use a ryzen 5 and it runs the game well
tacit plank
Yesterday a group of friends were discussing how to get above 30 FPS in big rooms
stoic halo
yeah definitely tidus
these models are pretty wack.
mine is too because of the amount of dynamic bones
that it has for some unknown reason
hollow umbra
Get a better gpu. If your gpu is the bottleneck, then that clearly the issue
sharp spruce
how to get way more fps in pugs: set your shaders/particles off on all but friends
tacit plank
It's only an issue for me and in small rooms. In larger rooms, the CPU is the bottleneck
dark narwhal
when ur group prefers poor optimized modelsm
gloomy charm
I dm'd you @hollow umbra
stoic halo
literally just dont goto. the pug or. some dumb shit lol
meager solstice
In terms of vrc.... u shouldn’t even look at gpu
hollow umbra
@gloomy charm I know
vocal shard
When i do run vrchat i run with all effects off.. even on a high end i cant be asked with effects.. more concerned about social side rather than preety colors.
dark narwhal
nah gpu still matters
tacit plank
The worlds are not the issue. It's avatars
hollow umbra
Vrchat uses almost 60% of the gpu for vr for vrc
stoic halo
idk dude. have you seen leblanc
floral aspen
yeah, as long as the group has decently optimized avatars you can maintain pretty high fps even in a large group
stoic halo
i get 20fps in leblanc alone
floral aspen
and yes, worlds can be an issue
tacit plank
that sounds like another level of shitty
stoic halo
leblanc use to be fine till its last update
tacit plank
Staff shouldn't be approving such worlds to begin with
stoic halo
now my group does not go to it because half of us can't even be there
floral aspen
leblanc is an older world I bet it wasn't looked at thoroughly
dark narwhal
its amazing how just a maps lighting can cut ur frames in half
stoic halo
loading into leblanc is enough to know tbh
tacit plank
It's still usually avatars
vocal shard
If a map is optimised correctly it doesnt matter how many lights you have.. just saying
hollow umbra
@tacit plank what’s your gpu
tacit plank
Lights means that every avatar will cast shadows... So it doubles the requirement of the avatars which are hit by light
hollow umbra
I probably have the same cpu as you
stoic halo
no
floral aspen
they only cast shadows if its a realtime light
tacit plank
- But my friends have 1080 or better
dark narwhal
maybe i just know i was in a world recently and turning off the lights doubled eveyones frames
stoic halo
i got an rx 580, i5 8800 3.0ghz.
tacit plank
We all get 20FPS in a big Japan town instance
I can get more, but it requires blocking avatars
vocal shard
I used to disable all shadows on my releases, but nowadays i leave them enabled.. once you have a method optimising wise then you can run with just about anything..
dark narwhal
jokes on you guys i never have to block avatars cause i sit alone in a world with only a mirror
languid beacon
It’s not so much games being bad at multithreadijg. It’s multithreadig being a crutch to extend a lack of new, faster CPU’s. Just throw more cores on them and make programmers multithread... I hate it lol. I miss Moore’s law.
meager solstice
Once they reimplement that IK system they had last update before there was a problem with it frames should be better
stoic halo
i forgot that world was even a thing
sharp spruce
We've been on silicon for way too long adeon, they need to start looking for something better
stoic halo
i still sometimes goto cafe leblanc and cry alone because nobody goes there
tacit plank
Hit a GHz wall for now
stoic halo
i made so many friends there
hollow umbra
I still go to gaia night
tacit plank
Somehow, GPUs can improve big leaps, but there's no improvements in CPUs for like 5 years now
sharp spruce
CPUs are serial execution, GPUs are parallel
hollow umbra
I have a i7 7700k
meager solstice
U know what world I hate in terms of performance.... void club
queen mango
I usually get 30 to 40fps depending on where I am and where I am looking at in Compat's Prom Night map.
sharp spruce
They can throw more transistors at GPUs and they keep getting faster, same doesn't apply to CPUs, which is why cores are a thing.
stoic halo
i got my i5 8800 3.0ghz for free so YEET
dark narwhal
NANI
queen mango
👀
dark narwhal
leah...friend...mate...
tacit plank
That makes sense Sloth, thanks for explaining
meager solstice
He getting vr?
languid beacon
Networked ik updated is exciting but a lot of local-only bugs will no longer be local only, lol
hollow umbra
I gave my friends sister my old i5 6500. Now she can run a Minecraft server
languid beacon
Like going cross eyed in mirrors
meager solstice
Yeah but it’ll help a lot @languid beacon
dark narwhal
a toaster can probably run a minecraft server
tacit plank
Will eyetracking change?
vocal shard
We should all be focused more on dealing with the cancer of the community rather than talking about more and more releases to be honest.. i cant tell you how many times i've decided to just build my releases standalone based on how many people advoid public now due to the abusive and also the abusers client wise.. its way out of control.
dark narwhal
minecraft is pretty optimized
tacit plank
If eyetracking is local, then it won't be eyetracking lol
Minecraft used to be optimized, it's not anymore
hollow umbra
@dark narwhal When was the last time you played Minecraft LUL
stoic halo
what are we gonna do to the cancer people? slap them in the wrist
dark narwhal
uhhhh 2015
meager solstice
True @vocal shard the clients r just toxic
tacit plank
There used to be 150 slot modded Minecraft servers
hollow umbra
@dark narwhal is not recent
stoic halo
usually to avoid cancer, goto the chill worlds like the Cafe worlds
hollow umbra
So*
dark narwhal
oof rip minecraft
vocal shard
I say we all launch a petition if it comes to it to have our voices heard because this cannot continue, the server needs to be authing legit packets not False.. this will destroy vrchat if it gets any worse and the community will become dead.
dark narwhal
rip toasters
languid beacon
Eye tracking will not change, as far as I know, you’ll just be broadcasting your own lookat
meager solstice
I think someone made a request about verifying files like vac or something @vocal shard on the canny
tacit plank
Now they're like 30 slots, and super laggy, and staff will be like "It's laggy because it's modded!" even if they're just bad staff who don't profile peoples bases
hollow umbra
Vrchat has been growing a lot. Especially during weekends
dark narwhal
the hloidays helped
tacit plank
It won't die, but people will avoid some public worlds
vocal shard
Aye Wigma a VAC like structure would be great.. or a dll that hooks to legit client that only runs with legit client and anything thats added to hook onto legit will exit user and auto report them.. other ways of course but anti cheat seems the way forward.
tacit plank
anti-cheats are cancer
sharp spruce
To be fair though caffeine, the amount of mods skyrocketed, and some are really unoptimized. Early packs were like 20 mods, modern ones are hundreds. Really hard to compare.
stoic halo
also yeah fuck anti cheats generally
tacit plank
They're viruses in themselves
hollow umbra
I don’t avoid public worlds because I get bored of seeing the same stuff by the same group of friends
dark narwhal
i go to public pugs for a goodt time
stoic halo
we mostly just chat in our friends only worlds
tacit plank
Nah, tekkit classic was already like 60 mods
stoic halo
occasionally run out to public.
vocal shard
Cmon.. the more people we get doesn't mean anything at the end of the day if all those new users start using modified clients themselves
tacit plank
FTB ultimate like 120 mods. That ran 100 users without problems
stoic halo
if we didn't do that i wouldn't have had MrWobbles try to serenade me
hollow umbra
Ftb ultimate was great
stoic halo
or 404studios roast one of my friends for calling rap gay
hollow umbra
Ic2 still trash and thaumcraft still the best mod
stoic halo
petition to ban all desktop users
dark narwhal
i built a house out of sand...
tacit plank
New thaumcraft sucks. I miss the giant, pretty 10K mana nodes.
IC2 best mod. Can your TE3 process 200 ores per second? I don't think so. IC2 can if you put in 22 overclockers
dark narwhal
petition to ban all players
vocal shard
Honestly i like releasing maps public that have people having fun .. its why i create Theme parks because in rl they are full of life and fun.. but see i know its just a fantasy nowadays because public is to be advoided simply because of these users who abuse the system.. and so our work is to be appreciated more with a private instance.. which of course you cant join in on. heh
stoic halo
petition to ban vrchat
hollow umbra
Petition to ban all steam user 😎
stoic halo
you can join friends+ worlds
dark narwhal
petition to ban me
hollow umbra
Petition to ban all anime 😎
vocal shard
Yeah there's that i guess..
dark narwhal
oh wait
tacit plank
You don't need private. Friends+ is good enough, unless your friends are assholes
stoic halo
i use steam just to track how many hours i waste of my. life on vrchat
dark narwhal
same
stoic halo
and for Kinect2VR
hollow umbra
Same
stoic halo
petition to ban Nanachis
hollow umbra
Around that number
vocal shard
The friends i have all have unknown names like Caffeine and more.. preety sure whoever that is hes addicted to the drug..
stoic halo
so i can stop being uncomfortable in their private instances
tacit plank
I know there's a user called Caffeine in VRChat. It's not me though
sharp spruce
🤔
hollow umbra
Ban all erp and girls because they have ligma
vocal shard
There's a few Omega's too but there aint no replacement for me.. besides which thank god for our discord in a way
stoic halo
nothing is weirder than people saying they recognize you but you have no idea who they are.
tacit plank
Nanachis have no lewd geometry
stoic halo
happens often for some re
vocal shard
easier to narrow down an author of a map lol
tacit plank
Lol really? I guess I just never looked.
No nips though
tacit plank
Well, there's a bunch of different Nanachis, maybe you ran into the more realistic portion of them
stoic halo
which we kicked him after seeing that
dark narwhal
thats evry model
queen mango
queen mango
Hold up, those Nanachis have extra details?
stoic halo
yeah. buttholes.
tacit plank
Lmao! I see
dark narwhal
...further assesment is required
sharp spruce
This conversation concerns me :|
vocal shard
it wasn't long ago there was an avatar running around that was completely X rated.. you know this is turning into second life right there.
tacit plank
Well, you're not going to look anyways
stoic halo
go look, even. mine has it and i didn't know till someone pointed it out
hollow umbra
Nanachi is that furry anime loli thing right?
stoic halo
wut loli
gloomy charm
Petition--->nanachi lol
tacit plank
Yeah
stoic halo
hoppous are superior to Nanachis
gloomy charm
Yes
tacit plank
Hoppou is cute too
stoic halo
miss me with my 848463 hoppou models
queen mango
I'd like a Neko Hoppou, thank you
tacit plank
But the only hoppou with a mesh below the clothes have really strange eyes. Not really cute at all
hollow umbra
Miss me with that weeb shit
dark narwhal
yeah i dont like hoppous
stoic halo
code is his discord id
tacit plank
I know because I edited one. I moved that mouth thing down to cover the nips
vocal shard
Weebs vs Bronnies who will win this epic fight?
dark narwhal
i have a cuter knuckles model than hoppous
gloomy charm
What about the hoppou who's head follows you around @stoic halo
stoic halo
omg fuck that one lmao i still need it though
queen mango
There used to be another Neko Hoppou I like to roam around in, who has a schoolgirl outfit and large cat paws.
gloomy charm
I knew one person who had a clone but Idk now
stoic halo
it has like. multiple color versions right?
tacit plank
from the Subcom world?
stoic halo
yeah
tacit plank
If that wasn't taken down for advertising yet lol
queen mango
Well, it's kinda gone now... well, no. I think it was the Halloween one with the little hat
That one's gone
gloomy charm
Most of the avatars are gone though
stoic halo
i like the Zero Two red oni hoppou
its the one i mostly use
aside from the tatsumaki one
tacit plank
There's a loli zero two model?
umbral reef
Subcom 4head
tacit plank
I haven't been able to find it online
stoic halo
yeah i have red oni hoppou
abstract anchor
Hi all. Who is Hungarian?
dark narwhal
lolis dont exist change my mind
dark narwhal
yeah hopps have ugly eyes
queen mango
ny-aaa...
stoic halo
i like hoppou eyes smh.
umbral reef
The peek of how to be an asshole human being, be part of ruining the streaming community and unoriginal in avatar making while not even really caring about optimazation until peeps you suck up to call ya out-
Nice map indeed with a neat creator yea
tacit plank
That one is cute
gloomy charm
So cute @stoic halo
tacit plank
Some of them have meh eyes. I think there's 3 hoppou bases
stoic halo
like vr streamers are so.... fake.
vocal shard
Well... They are vr...
umbral reef
Difference between a 'content creator' and streamer in VRC
Content creators are the leacher who boost of other people without having there own personality or thing.
The streamers are people like Astro, Oathmeal, Naggz and Lolathon for example
vocal shard
all streamers are fake its all an act so you donate shit.
dark narwhal
theres nothing wrong with that tho
stoic halo
i hate being around them
dark narwhal
its called entertainment
stoic halo
like i want to just tell them to shut up
vocal shard
in my opinion its kinda sick.. but thats my views of the world.
dark narwhal
what do you think actors are for
depends on the person for me tho
i try not to generalize on all streamers
stoic halo
i just dont want to hang out with someone who is fake and tries to moderate what i do or say
because of twitch's nazi moderating
vocal shard
many streamers sink to the lowest form of life by saying they are disabled only to show the world just how disabled they are i nthe end.. and more.. i know many of them that are mostly all bullshiting for sympathy
dark narwhal
i cant really say much because i dont really watch them
umbral reef
Those are 'content creators' and not streamers
dark narwhal
but ive met some pretty chill people who have streamed
stoic halo
one of my groups is literally just vr streamers and i rarely ever talk to them. because it's so fake when theyre streaming
like just be yourself dammit lol
vocal shard
if everyone was their true self this world would be easier to deal with,.
gloomy charm
I'm friends with a streamer who is pretty chill, they don't do just vrc though.
vocal shard
but people are fake assholes and thats how life is.. even outside people play away like there something they aint thats the entire reason i left the fake facebook community
stoic halo
the only times i have ever streamed is when i was drunk
and half the time its on accident
because i have obs open 24/7
gloomy charm
Oof
tacit plank
I know a guy who steams. He doesn't have a lot of viewers though. I think it's just a hobby
stoic halo
like theres a vod of me. just passed out for 1 and half hours before the stream was manually shutdown
queen mango
Pretty sure I used to be in touch with one or two friends, one of which was once a regular, and a friend of other frienda I knew
tacit plank
I don't have any software which can accidentally stream everything I'm doing
Neither should anyone else, what the hell?
vocal shard
I'm watching a stream right now its full of fake bullshiters too.. its on fox and called state of congress.. it aint very entertaining so far 😄
queen mango
One of them became a streamer, tagging along with SlyFoxHound.
gloomy charm
Lol
stoic halo
when i stream i dont change shit because im just drunk and screaming something about persona
like i usually do
queen mango
Ooh.. Persona? Like the video game?
stoic halo
yes
queen mango
Yush!
stoic halo
ive got a joker nanachi
tacit plank
I think that I'm myself. My mood varies, but I don't say things that I don't mean
stoic halo
and persona 3 femc dance model
queen mango
Perfect.. the video game that introduced me to anime.
stoic halo
my group has come to recognize me as the goto person for anything persona related
vocal shard
VR Kajoro introduced me to anime.
queen mango
Well, reintroduced me to such..
stoic halo
i was the first person they went to when they found the joker nanachi
half of my. models have jokers mask with last surprise
queen mango
While I have been intro- oh man, I think we're getting a little bit too offtopic here
stoic halo
my constant persona screaming made someone end up getting persona 5
queen mango
Hehe.. it's gonna be quite the experience for him.. the style just flows everywhere, the music just kicks up the adrenaline pump by 11
Speaking of which, what other Nanachi models you encountered?
queen mango
Hmm.. I may have encountered an Eevee Nanachi as well, probably several months back last year
queen mango
And there's also an exploding Nanachi..
queen mango
Man, anything that does that is bound to make me die from laughing so much. XD
Like the golden Ooka Miko balloon
queen mango
Pray tell.
queen mango
Oh my.. just when I thought it couldn't get any better
vocal shard
I haven't a clue what you guys are on about.. the words you use are so foreign to me lol
stoic halo
when they go "oooooooo" the head crushes inward and the lips stretch forward
vocal shard
All i saw was balloons... and i like balloons.
stoic halo
learn more about models then
vocal shard
Im a mapper.. i dont bother with avatars.
queen mango
To rephrase, the head of the Golden Ooka Miko rapidly expands and deflates as the user talks
queen mango
Oof
stoic halo
my friend has an issue where he cant see videos
hes tried practically everything and nothin works
vocal shard
you mean streaming content?
summer current
hi
vocal shard
ello
queen mango
It may have to do with Youtube changing their video algorithm..
Or it could be map owners not re-updating their map, just my guess
vocal shard
has he tried to just run a vpn ? if that doesnt work then it's to do with the client itself
stoic halo
i doubt a vpn will do jack lol
vocal shard
we live in an age where everything is a problem content wise and laws that dont need to exist are in full force
i wouldn't put it past a block
stoic halo
can you like speak in a non-gandalf monologue
vocal shard
If you mean not english then no.
vocal shard
Yes from your perspective someone trying to help by adding a lil truth to the pot that is life seems to be to much to understand.
stoic halo
looking like oblivion dialogue but being skipped through.
vocal shard
its probably because i'm older to that may have something to do with it.
I absolutely never will understand memes or anime.
stoic halo
no it's more the fact you are just saying random needless things instead of just stating the point
vocal shard
The point is that oblivious?
Use a vpn, you may laugh but we live in a world that is in control of your very life.. whats more to say?
stoic halo
there it is again, everything past "use a vpn" is pretty needless
it doesn't really make any sense to the context
like what does the world being controlled have to do with videos not working in VRChat
vocal shard
The last time i asked someone to speak more clearly has actually never happened before, even if they are foreign i get what they are trying to say.. i didnt think you could be that rude but i was mistaken.
languid beacon
I have the nanachi with the messed up visiemes.
stoic halo
im not trying to be rude.
it just doesn't make sense when you continue to ramble about random junk
vocal shard
It may not make sense to you no.
stoic halo
you may laugh but we live in a world that is in control of your very life.. whats more to say?
whats that have to do with the context
of vrchat video players not working
vocal shard
Videos that are streamed to vrchat through the vrc video player are limited per country of origin.
so it doesnt matter where you are if it works for you and not them its safe to say if it isnt client side its over the web itself.
stoic halo
you could've said that instead of some wannabe matrix line.
vocal shard
No i just think you need to be more understanding of people with a much higher vocab than yourself.
umbral reef
Lmao
thorny gorge
r/iamverysmart
stoic halo
its not about the vocab lol, its about how irrelevant what you said was
and how vague it is
vocal shard
Normally people can read between the lines.
thorny gorge
ngl homie there is reading between the lines and just being an edgelord
stoic halo
how the hell do i read between the lines on something that has nothing to do with the convo
tropic ledge
Fucking alpha here
vocal shard
You asked a question and i gave you the answer, simple.
stoic halo
an answer of an edgy matrix villain?
vocal shard
Imaging a doctor's note.. written so you can only understand it by reading between the lines. The person just wants a simple answer. Lol
I dont understand that context its to immature 😃 sorry
thorny gorge
👋 😎
tropic ledge
too*
stoic halo
lol
tropic ledge
lol
thorny gorge
👊 😎
tropic ledge
forgot a comma too
vocal shard
But i am an old geezer
tropic ledge
dude we understand you flunked your philosophy major
vocal shard
There was no philosophy in the place i went to 😄
stoic halo
like what im saying is, instead of being vague and edgy. just literally say it
i dont need to deconstruct your message like old shakesperian English literature for an essay
queen mango
What's happening here?
vocal shard
Right but i am shakespear english.. lol
umbral reef
Bruh- If you legit said "The video player might be geo locked of broken itself. A VPN would rule those problems out"
stoic halo
no wonder half of what you say makes no sense. jeez.
tacit plank
What Omega said made sense though? It might be because of a region lock on some videos
stoic halo
Use a vpn, you may laugh but we live in a world that is in control of your very life.. whats more to say?
the fuck does 90% even suppose to. pertain t9
its completely needless
tacit plank
Regulations are keeping things from working correctly
stoic halo
after being explained lol
vocal shard
I've never had anyone ever question me before because nobody has ever said anything before, you are the first though so there's always a first time i guess.
stoic halo
but out of context thats just edgy and vague
because im pretty sure people just disregards it most of the time to not get into this
vocal shard
Either that or they have a deeper understanding?
stoic halo
like it shouldn't be a analyzation problem for me to figure out what you are meaning
its a conversation not a book report.
tacit plank
Before that, he said it could be a block, and people were on the subject of the video streams
umbral reef
Bruh i did call you out on talking nonsense before
stoic halo
and that made no sense at the time after all of his nonsense
vocal shard
calm down 😉
umbral reef
On other topics yea- But back then you also rambled about something semi ish related
tropic tundra
🍵
stoic halo
at that point i just had an image of some. old guy talking about the government controlling his. life
tacit plank
It's big companies rather than the government, but that's basically why you can't watch the videos
vocal shard
I'm someone who's not allied with any laws. i just need to watch what i say thats all
tacit plank
Google is a little bitch
languid beacon
Someone drinking the kool aid again?
vocal shard
heh yeah and facebook was a good call removing myself from that community
umbral reef
What? Google cant do shit about ISP doing dumb stuff and being scum-
vocal shard
speak on a phone to people about a step ladder.. see a step ladder appear in my feed.. yeah
tacit plank
"Video blocked in your country" is Google being dumb
stoic halo
instead of going "OH THOU AGENCIES CONTROLLING THY LIFE" its easier to just say "Its probably geo locked"
tacit plank
They own Youtube
umbral reef
@stoic halo Can also try using couldfare's DNS and or redownload the youtube files (dont recall where to find them but eh, try the dns stuff first)
stoic halo
yeah i told him to try the youtubefiles
umbral reef
@tacit plank Its google not wanting to be taken to court
stoic halo
i need to get back to him if thay worked
vocal shard
Oh though holy maiden from sea's far and wide, i know not what you speak.
tacit plank
Other websites have the video without problems though
languid beacon
Targeted advertisements are not some Cthulhu illuminati conspiracy they are very well known and an industry standard
tacit plank
But in some cases I guess you're right
Targeted advertisement is super creepy to anyone who knows how it works. Sadly, it's turning into the standard
umbral reef
Because youtube is so big they have to follow all the rules
Other websites just wait untill they get a claim asking to take it down and then act upon it
vocal shard
listening devices in your home.. rfid chips in your body.. you are controlled by the media! its coming for you.. better run xD
tacit plank
your phone records everything you do and share it with every other phone around you
umbral reef
Yea no as its useless to listen to peeps and illegal as fuck
Rfid chips wont happen because of health hazards
Media? Yea cant deny that but its not like newspapers have been doing that shit since the day it got made
tacit plank
Even if you don't have a Facebook, if your family or close friends does, Facebook already knows who you are and what your interests are
vocal shard
RFID chips already has happened actually.. to locate criminals on the planet, they will enforce it on all people in the end.. i feel like its worthy considering how often people go missing, off the radar.. like people in america's national forrests who simply fall off the radar.
umbral reef
Not sure what you smoked with those chips but where does that happen then (Reply in #general-media before we get forced there)
ruby needle
ruby needle
no
tropic ledge
dude omega is the world flat to you or something
umbral reef
@ruby needle Too slow qtie
ruby needle
indeed
vocal shard
Dammit Fpaul dont be a buzz killington you talk as much randomness as we do 😄
umbral reef
@tropic ledge Honest to god its fair entertainment talking to him
Provides nice memes 👀
ruby needle
if you recognize your self that its the wrong channel tho, why not just move over your self 
vocal shard
I could ask you the same question though 😛
umbral reef
The fuck?
tacit plank
Lets hop Random
umbral reef
Ow fpaul dm's btw
Got a photo for you 
vocal shard
pron?
ruby needle
Random 
queen mango
languid beacon
I have 3 Facebook Rift™️ Brand webcams in my vr playspace
vocal shard
These pretentious trusted cunts and their DC script is really something. Challenge them in any manner and they break your client until restart
queen mango
They have been quite stubborn lately, aren't they?
languid beacon
vocal shard
Yeah, it's really irritating.
umbral reef
Atleast its easy to know who to avoid.
The higher the rank the biggest the odds of being clapped by them 
vocal shard
How ironic.
queen mango
Some visitors would probably be the ones having to pay your hearing bills.
The rest? Both your hearing and eye bills
vocal shard
I have visitors completely turned off, except for voice
why? visitors are the safest... they can't do anything
They can still clone
coarse anchor
they are usualy the moste obnoxious
queen mango
I can tell.. some times
vocal shard
any time they see a loud avatar their eye lights up with excitement
then they clone, over and over. Until a server has crashed or they all get kicked
just disable animations, and any trigger activated crash methods should be disabled... unless you just mean you don't like their presence...
coarse anchor
love how vrc crashes just by closing ijt normaly
vocal shard
it opens the install helper when i close mine
languid beacon
I set my tag to green for this exact reason. People treat you very different when you show your purple tag
vocal shard
Well do you blame us? The majority of trusted users are egotistical entitled pieces of shit
queen mango
vocal shard
that isn't fair at all. some may be like that, but blanketing that to everyone is not right
***from my experience
languid beacon
I largely disagree. I also think the ability to set backwards safety settings (less rights for higher ranks) is the stupidest thing ever and is basically a coin toss trying to figure out which color will let more people see you correctly :p
vocal shard
Kudos to you for avoiding the bad apples, then.
turbid echo
Yo does anyone know if you can see the lobby instance or the people you played with in a crash report?
umbral reef
Thats gonna be a kick
vocal shard
Did this guy seriously buy nitro for an alt account?
Or just bought it same day he registered
median basalt
Good to see the disconnect exploit is still a thing
Block suspicious user, get disconnected
Zero moderation in this game
They were trusted too lol
vocal shard
When you login via Steam, where do you get the link to merge Steam to VRChat account?
in the settings menu, there should be a button that says upgrade
rigid crescent
vocal shard
Yeah I got it
coarse anchor
VRchat is so crashy today wtf
vocal shard
Rokk you sound happy that its not fixed.. why you so negative.. i mean its hard to fix that exploit.. it must be right? why else would they delay it and harm the reputation?
zinc solar
Sup scrubs and scrubettes
median basalt
@vocal shard there's a few things that are easy but simply aren't done, so forgive my skepticism
At some point the team has to step up and actually moderate the game
Or it will die
vocal shard
nah its alright i was kinda kidding around in a sense. i mean the canny.io is overloaded with issues that date back years and we still suffer with those bugs and exploits
even more so of today because its much worse
stone current
queen mango
Yep
It's the music channel btw, though the shameless self-promotion channel's fine too
vocal shard
thats disgusting
If I don't clear my cache every now and again VRChat will freeze my entire computer
coarse anchor
And it keeps on rashing and it keeps on Crashing
send my Crashlog 4x now to the support team and they still ask me for the Crash logs
vocal shard
It just works.
shy apex
Six times the detail.
zinc solar
You may see me less on VRChat due to being a loser with a life.
I just got a promotion, full-time, and a raise so I'm twerking twice as hard to give my cat caviar everyday
iron thunder
yo. I've been making some highly edited VRChat videos and I was wondering what the best way to get people to critique them would be without looking like a douchebag. I feel like my videos are decent and my biggest hindrance is getting youtube to recommend me.. so I'd love people to tell me what can be improved.
hollow umbra
@zinc solar I’m glad you are succeeding
@iron thunder try posting on #vrchat-videos
also having good connections with people in the community could help
iron thunder
to be honest, I've posted stuff in places like that and I know its not very beneficial at all. I've also been avoiding social media and reddit.. to appease the youtube algorithm. lol
hollow umbra
Every good career starts with good networking
vocal shard
Well.. we each create content differently.. as for video's depends on the content you are creating.. like reviews or more..
iron thunder
Yeah. I dont have connections.. unless its like.. last years GTA RP.
vocal shard
Hm, well its starts with talking about the recents if you want to be involved in that critera.. souljaboy bullshit and more.. depends on the content like ive said.. could do what they all do.. soulja boy and fallout 76 lol
iron thunder
I actually jacked a little bit of drumsy's style for my last two videos. My videos always lean towards telling a story.
vocal shard
Hey that isn't to bad.. people like a good story and if you look into the camera are honest overall.. you will get a fanbase going in no time
iron thunder
Are you a creator?
The longer I do this the more I think you could make an amazing video and never be seen. lol
vocal shard
I'm a content creator when it comes to mapping.. i create fairground maps for the most part.. if i had the power to stream i would.. but mostly i would cover unity so that people get a good dose of education out of it.. that way everyone benefits 😛
iron thunder
Also theres this weird conundrum where I dont want to spam my links or tell people I make stuff because people.. hate that. lol
Is there an oversaturation when making maps?
vocal shard
hmm.. well people generally seem to lean towards avatar creation and yet mapping is truly fun.. i dont find avatar creation hard more mediocre.. however there are some very talented artists out there as is the way.. as for not self promoting.. i do understand and yet we have a self promoting channel here where people can do so. its your choice at the end of the day.. just take it from me.. advertise yourself as much as possible if you want attention or you will never get anywhere in life
even if it doesn't sit right with you it will pay off eventually.
indigo fern
ay bruh, follow me on soundcloud
vocal shard
haha what a bunch of jokers 😛
iron thunder
What item shop? Sounds like a deal to me.
queen mango
indigo fern
BD
iron thunder
I have a soundcloud too. I do the dopest phattest beats. I also made a fight club song with just sex noises.
vocal shard
Yes.. my soundcloud is actual EVP's i've recorded from actual locations lols..
tough fractal
Cool
vocal shard
i'm into music but more so i prefer retrowave.. 80's mostly, when i'm designing i cant create without it 😛
queen mango
80s music 
opaque hawk
I have a SoundCloud as well but I don’t really like their service as much as I used to.
vocal shard
Yeah i was born in 1983.. so .. i'm still into the punk hairstyles classic games like streets of rage.. rollerskates and more
queen mango
Tbh, SoundCloud's the only service where I can find what I am exactly looking for..
For example, Mariya Takeuchi's Plastic Love, Junko Ohashi's Telephone Number, and other music like "The World Ends With You" soundtracks
Just search their names and, voila!
vocal shard
Soundcloud is also good for Binaural audio xD
if your designing a horror title.. you want Binaural audio to scare the piss out of people 😛
opaque hawk
Bandcamp and sounddrop have stolen my heart.
vocal shard
I have a 3Dio microphone too but apart from striking matches and random sounds i cant really use my voice to do so unless its in reverse as what most classics do like doom back in the day 😛
This is for the people who want good sounds.. this search in particular is 100% Binaural may be useful when creating content and also for easy listening 😛 but also good because the website is easy to rip sounds from.. and it has a silly number of files without a voice over with all samples unlike "pond5" https://www.soundsnap.com/search/audio/Binaural+recording/score
iron thunder
yo fer real?
i've always wondered what those ears taste like.
I didn't expect to find moby dick on soundcloud. Was listening to that at work the other day.
vocal shard
but when i upload it the animations dont exist
hollow umbra
@vocal shard you need to put the animation controller on the avatar descriptor before uploading
hollow umbra
That’s a bit much. It’s literally drag and drop
vocal shard
So i uploaded an avatar from vrc, it has animations that came with it. I put a custom override into the avatar descriptor and into the animator controller. From here to I have to load each animation individually into the custom override?
is it as simple as realshofu said? copy the animator controller file and paste it into the avatar descriptor?
thing is the same file (located in the controller) labeled "animation override" is already in the descriptor. but when i upload the animations dont exist
pseudo basalt
Click on the override controller you put into your descriptor
It will have a list of animations you can replace with your own by dragging them into it
vocal shard
i didnt put an override. it already came with one
they are identical
to the one in the descriptor
pseudo basalt
Well click on it
It should show you a list of animations in the inspector that you can replace
vocal shard
material folder, animation 1, 2, and 3, animation, custom overide, then i have a model animation
umbral oracle
The custom override will go into both sitting and standing slots in the vrc avatar descriptor
The animator component should be left alone and say None (Runtime Animator Controller)
vocal shard
so i have to import all my emotes and stuff individually into the custom override
umbral oracle
No you just said you have a custom override
vocal shard
because i have some animations that cant go into the custom override
vocal shard
basically i downloaded a vrc avatar with animations. All i want to do is make sure it has the animations when i upload it
umbral oracle
(((I'm going to guess half of the issues you are running into are because you downloaded one of the half baked or outdated models on that garbage site )))
vocal shard
if i upload it as is, the animations wont exist
umbral oracle
Probably the model has legacy animations or other things that have been broken for several months but they never updated the models
vocal shard
its the same with multiple highly rated avatars i downloaded
umbral oracle
So you will have to check pins in #animation for each animation how to convert them to non legacy
vocal shard
how do i know if its legacy?
umbral oracle
Getting a "highly rated " avatar to work from ****mods is not an easy task. Most content there is broken and you are better off doing stuff yourself so you understand what is going on
Anyway... your original question . You claim your emotes do not exist. Let's walk through it. Do you have the animations filled in EMOTE1..3 slots
In your custom override
If so, those animations have names. You will want to check the emote menu ingame for the same names
Then did you make sure to put that custom override controller in the sitting and standing slots of your VRC Avatar Descriptor
vocal shard
let me do that real quick
you know i think im asking the wrong questions. Lets start here. the read me file says the animation is initiated by F6. If its an animation and not an emote, then would there be a different process to making sure it uploads with the avatar?
sorry im new to all of this and i really appreciate your help 😃
i understand now how to add emotes and stuff. But the problem is the animations that are controlled by f1-f8
subtle prawn
KEYBOARD GESTURES SHIFT + (F1-8)
F1- Normal hand (can't configure)
F2- FIST
F3- HANDOPEN
F4- FINGERPOINT
F5- VICTORY
F6- ROCKNROLL
F7- HANDGUN
F8- THUMBSUP
vocal shard
so it is within the animation controller
subtle prawn
Overrride
vocal shard
im wondering if the file format is the reason I cant add these animations to the override
when i go to "select animation clip", most of my animations dont show up as an option
subtle prawn
Since this is an animation/override thing, switch over to #animation
vocal shard
ah maybe its this. It says " the rigs of the selected models are not setup to handle animation. Change the animation type in the rig tab and click apply
what animation type do i want?
generic, humanoid, legacy
right now its at None by default
umbral oracle
Oh dear. This is exactly the problem with the crap on that website. It came with animations but not even rigged correctly You need everything to be rigged as humanoid . Set it to None first I think should help migrate
vocal shard
do i need to optimize the game objects or just apply to the humanoid format?
and yeah i know, they make this more difficult than it should be
umbral oracle
Make sure the animations use "Humanoid" stuff like Animator.Root T and muscles instead of "Generic" Left Wrist, Head etc bones
No optimize game objects
umbral oracle
I mean you can if you make from scratch but optimize will just add to. Your headache. Don't click that
vocal shard
ok lol
oh yay not enough bones
xD
a project for another day
funny thing is its all the same with the 8 avatars i downloaded
vocal shard
i basically have to go into blender with all of these and reconfigure the bones. and thats with every single animation on each of the avatars
uploaders too lazy to give a finished product haha
molten hornet
why are worlds and avatars loading SOOOOOOOO slow for me
its not my internet i just checked
like 103mbs = like 15 minute load time
queen mango
That's new..
Have you tried closing other apps or tabs that may be using up your bandwith?
You may also have something downloading in the background that can sap your bandwith. Try pausing or cancelling them if possible
@molten hornet
molten hornet
nothing running i checked
its only VRChat that does it
just started doing it today i thought was a DDoS or something cause its so slow
queen mango
Huh.. that's new..
molten hornet
ya ik :/
and the loading just says "0%" forever
and then poof just loads randomly 10 minutes later
for avatars
only for some avatars though some instantly load like normal
sand monolith
Does anyone else think we'd benefit from a "I can't talk" emote? Like a mic with an X over it, or a lil icon of someone talking with an X over the mouth?
I know it's VRChat but sometimes you have roomates home or can't talk physically or something, feels like it'd be a great idea lol