#vrchat-general-2
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I am hard to see because I blend with the background.
@vague thicket reminds me of a certain anime about basketball
Fat guys
Excuse me did you just asume the gender of this person?
@molten hornet Just buy it 
Im a swiffer wet jet
About good looking guys playing basketball? Why thank you.
My wife bought me a lose weight CD..... (I played it backwards)
nitro 4head
Right, bbl
Yeah thats a mcdonalds burger

Never had nitro 4head
Free loader here!
Sounds like my annual salary.
Thats like 1 meal at mikey d's
Yeah 1 meal out of (preferably) 3 of the day vs 1 month of benefits
get 2 quarter pounder and 2 large fry
Dont worry you wont get slim from not eating at mcd for one day LOL
problm solv
Tbh id rather eat then have some emotes
But thats like 20$
n0
But im almost a food slut so my opinion is irrelevant
Then make food yourself and save money to get nitro
@vocal shard not much im just conversing
ez clap
Me too man and or girl or thing
gimmy hugz

Catches the table and sets it down
2019 my man gotta becareful
he she it shle shler he/she they
Is that the legendary kuro
i known some1 who identified as a "they"
I sexually identify as an attack helicopter.
oof
Naughtly lookin the mirror
Im a little sheit my mom always tells me
f + paul = fpaul

Holy shit 
Time to sleep Good night friendly people i met tonight, if u see me ingame on Oniichan in presentation room say hai
And get myself some nuggets
But at the same time, i can eat for free and not all alone at my work
Mcdonalds it is!
Don't go to McDonalds
But its unhealthy and doesnt taste that great
Its made with "real" meat
wink
Lul
It's just as expensive as a proper meal, it's 50% sugar and fake meat
salad moar expensiv
Organic more expensive too
Woof
Well you can do whatever of course, but eh
Not fake meat where i live
yea it deer meat
not deer meat either

Deer meat is good
It is!
lul
Not where i live.
I meant it's good, deer meat
Yeah that also xd
Here its pure a gamble
It can taste good as fuck or like dirt
x(
@glossy wharf it all depends how u handled the meat or who butchered
Depends how busy it is
There is only two places i can get it here and its both shit
Theres good and godly deer meat then theres shit
Sadly alot of people get the 2nd option :/ we butcher our own deer from hunting ect
This chat is jumping around like crazy i love it haha
We went from ranking system to deer meat
And now we dead chat GN
No. It's not dead. It's only in your head.

yes
Facts
See? Told you.
It's over, chat's dead pack it up boys
We are all ghosting
good one
Was that a pun? I like it.

I dunno
No homo ofc
he's a potato
Hes a pilltatoe

commit force log out
Ok im done with bad puns ima sleep
yes shleep
Gn
nighto~
Dont haunt me pls
I won't
Thanks
Oh hi there
um, hallo~
How ya all doing in the vr world?
Well, I don't have arms
well, I've been off vrc a lot recently
Gonna buy ocules soon
Ocules!
?
Whats with it?
noir pointing out you misspelled oculus
why do you have vr in your name if you don't have vr 
Hey, man. He's just enthusiastic.

Always have the hope!
Im just really excited for my vr setup man
See? I told you so.
I'm glad that you are getting to experience it soon then.

It's quite magical.
Well have been on desktop for 10 years now so i hope it will
My eyes cant be hurted man
you think?
mhm
My friend has also vr mate
Doesn't hurt your eyes worse than pouring acid into them, and it's a lot more fun. Win-win.
Should i work on my model while i'm at school?
Yesh
yes
Mhm
Depends on if you are doing good in school or not
I'm on MacOS right now, Macbook air on School Wifi
No but ye i tested his vr thing but only with video i wasnt able to experience the movements
I don't know how to transfer my Model from Mac to PC since i am new to everything
Well its the same type of file on both system so sending it thru any online sharing site should work
I don't have VR so I can't taste that magic.
Nah
Chapter One - A New Beginning
ya all lucky with your decent eyes, vr made my eyes extremely sensitive to light
Your just weak for all the waifu love you get ingame â¤
I get 0 love oclac 
You don't have gamer eyes... Foolish boy... you should've prepared!
What do you mean by love Ghosto?

I doubt waifu love is real love though
I get 0 of fake or real
this is so sad alexa play despacito
Well dont push away svel and you will get love đ
okay stop

That logo asks for it so hard 

I'm back now, but to play VRchat harmlessly
IS that scp 049
You'd need 10k+ hours in the Videogame known as Minecra- Yes. And i like him.
Im making a model that has a similar mask 
Welp time to block sai so i wont get spooked
But Plague Doctors don't always have to be scary
What about Plague Knight from Shovel Knight?
Not all doctors are Scary though
Could someone help me please? ;x I've been taking pictures with my ingame Camera for quite a long time now but I have no idea where they're saved.. do I need to link a folder to it first or something...?
@fringe anchor The photo folder from your game and then there is a Vrchat folder
pictures folder on C drive
Oh really it saves there? lmao
or whatever drive you have for system
Most doctors aren't scary
Wait.. photo folder from my game? I can't access any folders from my game :x
Like, why would they be
C:Drive > Pictures > VRChat
@inner cape I did, but didn't understand at first, I got it.
@magic agate Nope, there's no folder there.
Can I link it to another folder somehow?
Guess not lol. thanks for the help everyone â¤
Alright, time to talk in avatars
With symlinks, should be possible
@glossy wharf Birthday ?
@fringe anchor you can change it though it's a bit technical, look up how to make junctions
Ye @lapis nebula
Nah sai just stole a birthday hat
Happy Birthday @glossy wharf
thnk
Happy birthday
I feel mocked, I actually have 10k hours in Minecraft (about earlier conversation)
Did u farmed all the Diamonds ?

Hey! Don't judge!
so just to clarify: in the sdk you just mark a nude avatar with the appropriate tag and it doesn't show up in your list in public worlds?
@foggy crescent Uuuu no
The buttons dont mean anything at all really.
You also are not allowed to use nude avatars in public worlds. Only in fully private (not even friends only) rooms.
Look at Paul trying to be a mod 
@foggy crescent nude avatars are not allowed by the TOS
got it
The 4 checkbox es are left overs from earlier game stuff but has never been removed yet
Afaik
so don't do it at all
I mean, bikini avatars are fine
What about duck tape avatars đ¤
To which state is skimpy outfits allowed though?
And naked Reverse-futa avatars đ¤
I've seen bandaid panties. Technically allowed, and even approved by inspecting admins sometimes (The avatar worlds. Idk if the admins have looked that closely), but... Is it officially allowed?
How would it be allowed bro the crotch part is outlined..
this seems like something that a vrchat dev would be able to help answering
Yeet them an email about it
My friend still has that avatar its scary
whose gonna play VRC with mey?
I mean, I've seen a world where models had fully modeled and textured NSFW geometry under the clothing
And it went approved for several months
so...?
Bandaid panties might be a little more questionable though
And when I ask people if it's safe, they're like "probably". Nobody really knows for sure
What does the DynamicBone ?
Dynamic Bones basically smoothes out movement of bones depending on multiple settings you do in a script. e.g. it makes hair move more realistically instead of it being static.
you dont need to ask the same thing you asked 30min in the public lobby here again
im always grossed out seeing loli avatars in revealing clothing... yuck
You are not the only one
yep, can confirm
As far Iâm aware swimsuits are not nsfw
Itâs sort of the opinion of the masses though. If people report it, thatâs all it takes. So, speak with your report button if something offends you I guess
Uuuu no?
Fairly sure the rules judge if something is ok or not
Else we can mass report all avatars with green hair and get them banned because they offend a group of hairdressers
What would be stupid
Voicing it to them is more reasonable to do then (email or canny post)
This comment has offended me reported
Nothing is stopping you aside from conflicting with the discrimination rule.
i know and im the one getting deranked off this game funny huh
And people wonder why I say the majority of vrchat users are equivalent to gmod users.
Never played. Is it good?
so many people put so many hours into this game making avatars making friends socialising etc and out of nowhere im getting deranked
i understand the system fully
Itâs possibly people hiding your avatar or blocking you.
@languid beacon not really bunch of rainbow colored hair people running around getting offended.
dont have to remind me of it
You seem to really dislike colored hair
Most people with the odd colors seem to get offended
Nice bias
end of the day people have been on here since day one and should deserve more
Just a weird fixation is all lol
Just because you play long doesn't mean your trusted lmao
That's just what I noticed about people I always see someone with blue hair green hair etc getting triggered at any little thing it's odd really.
Guess what bubble you live in is your reality
Let me guess
You found videos about that online but never have irl? Or am I amssuming stuff now also...
sorry if im coming across a bit abrupt the mods and admins know exactly what im talking about they just dont want to adress the situation
No irl I'm from cali so a lot of these types around
they have done something about this before but removed such a thing
best to stay out of the discussion alltogether, because somebody's going to be offended anyways if they pick a side (:
@vocal shard they can't explain or change the trust system just because you did something (unfriending, being blocked or ECT)....
im not an unfriendly person by any means
What's your user level? @vocal shard
I find that people who feel everyone else is âtriggeredâ tend to be the actual problem makers
That might be the case I have been blocked by a lot of people on this game
I find that everyone is the problem :^)
user level
?
Yeah trusted new etc
i got deranked for trusted to known
Have you recently unfriended a lot of people?
nope
Unfriending people deranks? @floral aspen
me and my friends get along perfectly fine
it can. Number of friends factors into your trust score
Deleting uploaded content deranks too >_>
Also the ranks of your friends probably factor into your trust score as well, but I have no way to prove that
What about being blocked?
Depending on the content. I have a theory that content is worthless but gets inherent trust linked to you with use, and deleting it loses that
yes, being blocked will decrease your trust score
If it's like 500 people?
If it's a huge number like 500 people then yeah that will most likely affect your rank
Rip
this still doesnt excuse the fact of what i said earlier
Being blocked has a pretty big effect on your trust score probably the biggest negative thing that can happen
Guess that's why I'm stuck at user
there are people on vrchat who have been on here a long time and deserve that recognition what they deserve
the content creators of the worlds and avatars
I wouldnât call it recognition. I hide my purple tag sometimes because people treat you different
the admins and mods here have no say over decisions made about stuff like the trust system. That's solely up to the devs
Is there a reason why bans in vrchat only go to 4 years?
i have friends who have made very big worlds lyxirs world ' kamis lookout (king todd) and a lot of other big creators that people may or may not know who are not getting recognised
it only goes to 4 years because they never got around to changing the ban message. A 4 year ban is effectively a permaban
Ah
but heck who cares just a game right 
it is just a game
And just a ban
I still think that just because i made content for the game does not mean i should get a reward
What kind of "recognition" should they get?
A permanent ban is technically worse, but a temp ban of 4 years sounds much more harsh lol
I was just wondering if they only expect the game to last another 4 years @languid beacon lol
they gave them a legendary rank of some sort
wait you legit think that was just for content creators?
Ah so like a rank for content creators?
4 years? Easy.
Owwmmyyyy you are extremely misinformed about the rank my dude
It was legit a trust rank above the current ones that added nothing.
It was NOT for content creators or people even though it stated that.
I knew more content creators with lower trust scores then ones with it and more spammers and ect with it then anything else.
I mean in all honesty of you are pissed
about ranks just make your own name plate that says legendary and put above your head.
After 4 years it becomes to long in the future to predict. But I imagine it being around for its 10th birthday
So no- They never gave all content creators a reward or anything close to it.
The rank got as it should have removed before it got even released as it was completly useless
I mean I guess so second life still exists so I guess anything can keep breathing
Fun fact at one point the rank was gonna be called legend
Before it was changed to veteran
Imagine what people would have said with that kinda name
These are the good old days. Enjoy it.
Sorry for responding like this but that veteran rank was a big problem for me
give us what we deserve
Lol
And that is?
Reperations
You need to be a bit more specific, what do you deserve?
You wanting to be special rank?
When does someone deserve a special reward for making something?
What if someone is disliked by the community but makes awesome things?
i really couldnt care if i got banned ?
The most the could give well known content creators is probably like a badge or something on their nameplate. They can't make special exceptions in the trust system for anyone and have explicitly stated that they won't
@vocal shard you don't care if you get banned but you care about a rank lmao.
Again- The idea is nice but when is someone known?
im trying my best here
No stop adding things to the nameplate lol already bad as it is
Maybe they should add a cookie icon to content creators that want it
no
sucking youtuber/streamer dick would be the last string, they already do it enough
I'm talking about model makers and world makers lmao
no one's talking about streamers
either way, why do you need a "me special" badge
idk, I guess Magma is feeling entitled today
For people like magma
Why then people know who to block
well we can always derank you tidus ?
huh?
it's like those cucks asking on canny to give veteran back when it got removed
đ
you're just pathetic 
He is salty he got deranked by the trust system
Because that system totally has to do with making content and not loads of other stuff /s
awww
He makes content but does he pay taxes?
you might want to get rid of that pepe emote
Purge it
against the rules here
People may be offended by that pepe
and theres another derank
I love how no one cares about insulting and stuff in here but we all freak out for an emote đ
Visitor Magma
I don't agree with the rule, but rules are rules I guess
I agree with the rule because I like knowing who specifically has a problem with the rule
@floral aspen Then why not call out peeps who insult? As thats also against the rules :X
because its a witch hunt, thats why
#rules 16. No emoji, icons or pictures/memes that are widely associated with hate speech, or are highly inappropriate (such as Pepe)
Magma what if as a recognized Co tent maker you make your name shmagma
well whats a world without rules ?
@vocal shard who are you referring to*?*
this chat
no admins
Who is a Jake pauler you piece of shit
The no pepe rule tends to brings out the edgelords complaining about it
No you right Oclac, I guess I'm just trained to react to pepe by now since that usually gets the mods attentions pretty quick
helton is a jake pauler lol
I'd burn Logan Jake and their father on a stake if given the chance
it is
Because well- Almost everyone does the same
I'd cut their throats and make their mother bathe in their blood for creating mistakes twice
I usually don't call it out unless its directed towards me personally
Itâs like bing. Apparently crazy popular but you never meet someone who actually uses it
Jake and Logan have been manipulating children ever since they joined YouTube, They have become another group of Rice Gum
They're a couple of Disney channel stars that transitioned to youtube and their demographic is mostly 12 year olds
@vocal shard would you force them to watch a kitten play with its tail?
No, fuck no, I don't want the poor animal to be mutilated and tortured, it has a soul
They don't deserve entertainment
@quiet river if Logan is known to mutilate animal corpses on recordings I don't want that sub-human near an animal
He was unforgivable even before the whole suicide forest thing
And somehow people still forgive him
Even fucking Youtube forgave him and let his YouTube premium show air, but didn't let Felix raise it up for saying the Niqqa
No
I feel like I'm watching a veteran talk
How come đ¤
No one is Continuing the conversation and it just keeps on going.
I guess a decade of internet did something to me
Perhaps
@quiet river my mentality is, even if they aren't chatting they are still reading... So I finish what I want to say
Sounds like my wife
sounds like someone is an unsatisfactory spouse
Are you saying I'm nagging
?
But words leave from in and out, writing stays there forever...
i listen to my bf even if i dont care, cause i care that he cares. even if i dont like something, i like that hes enjoying himself. đ¤ˇââď¸
Also, I love how #general-media is being general, and #vrchat-general-2 is being random 
Ruuubick isn't online so people are taking advantage lol
they're always busy and usually only active in here when theres a big annoucement

Sounds like todd howard
30fps on a dev uploaded world, nice!
Are you alone in the world?
and what are your specs?
one other person here
300mb too, so optimal!
@floral aspen 8086k and a 1060 6gb
Welp, I missed the answer to my question 
on their "optimal" required worlds I get 90fps no problem
which world is it out of curiosity?
gimme those juicy 90fps
Well I mean if itâs old, itâs there for historical purposes
it doesn't follow the guidelines
But did it follow the guidelines of when it was used
is that why worlds uploaded before changes have been taken down for not following the new worlds?
@earnest harbor Only avatar worlds...
Or is that an avatar world
well, they should be the example setters, not the exception to the rule
they made the game they can do what they want
not an excuse
Just send a email if you believe it shouldn't be public
Complaining here isn't going to help.
abusing the rules is abusing the rules, if a moderator were to bypass the rules they would be held accountable
You can disagree with it all you want lol
When itâs your game you can do whatever you want
Also it indeed not a updated world
developers who are working on this very game should have optimal uploads themselves if they're going to be public
But goldsnake
What is not according to the guidelines then within that world?
And VrPill is not a developer. He does not program the game.
even better! his world needs to be taken down from being public to be optimized so others don't succumb to the horrendous FPS I'm getting here.

Send a email and stop discussing it here.
Vrpill is the LEAD developer
VRPill is not a developer, he does not decide what happens to the game in the slightest
"Admin" means "PR Management"
Ron is the absolute closest to being in charge of the game
Along with the rest of the devs
VRPill and Ron are co-CEO's
Practically every feature currently in the game has happened because Ron willed it
Wiki says vrpill and Ron are lead developers
Including the favourite slots increase, avatar chairs, the trust system and the performance system
Which wiki? The wikia?
The wikia is practically garbage as always
Yea as wikipedia isnt a place anyone can edit things on
VR Pill basically just goes to meetings and events etc
Like when he went to Japan on some talkshow(?)
Apparently Tupper is the new "community manager" but he's not exactly the most professional person out there IMO
He's always around here when an update happens though
Are he talkin sheite on me boy tubber?
@median basalt
Yea
@ tupper
Tipper likes Cirno, so he's good in my book. đ
Cirno is overrated
Rogur
@
Does literally nothing in any of the games
Is not an interesting character and does not have an interesting design
Is not even mentioned by name in PCB
Just like every anime avatar in VRC. She's representing you, fellow players
She deserves a similar amount of recognition as, say, Letty Whiterock
I don't see huge fanclubs of her forming any time soon
Cirno became popular because of an instructional booklet and an ensuing IOSYS video
I just realized I insulted the community.
IOSYS is one of my fav denpa producers
I can't read though, was never taught
Booo, you can easily lose attention from books @brisk bone
I can't really get invested in books, I tried
It's literally like a movie that needs a lot of your attention and imagination to fill the blanks
That's the fun part though
I'd rather watch a movie, or play a interactive game that requires my pace
But the fun part is the part that bores me @pure hemlock
hey guys
@floral aspen you happy now
?
im new to vrchat
Sup
i wanna try make some new friends on here
huh?
Ruubick is on
I hate reading but I can read
lol oh
Welcome đ° @proper rune
I only read one non homework book
I mean, I guess? Makes me no difference
You said his name, so you summoned him
Logic 1OO
thanks helton
does anyone know why the dot in the middle of my screen keeps going up high
lol that was like an hour ago. He was bound to get on eventually either way
as in like it makes my avatar slowly look upwards
Desktop or vr, Fernex?
If desktop make sure you donât have a gamepad plugged with an analog stick tilted
I assume desktop if it has the dot
Has anyone noticed a weird distortion effect when it comes to things that move, and frame drops? It shows the most often in menus. The best way to describe it, is a heat wave. It happened after an nvidia update, but I also am not sure if it was before or after the small vrchat update as well.
Asynchronous projection. It may be annoying but trust me itâs better than the alternative
The alternative is not drawing that frame..
Whatâs happening is your fps is so low that the headset is trying to insert its own in-between frames to stop you from getting sick
It can be disabled but I donât recommend it
It really depends on the person how well they can tolerate frame rate drops. For me the wavy lines make me more sick than a moderate frame rate drop
I canât stand headset locking
Er, freezing
There used to be a way to disable time warp without disabling async reprojection entirely
But now thereâs only one option
I believe the wavy/melting is just the timewarp
Regular async is when you look away from the âview squareâ and see that itâs just painted on a sphere
Yeah whenever I look around to quickly in a laggy world with lots of people it looks like things are wavy and melting. Is there not a way to stop it from happening?
Yeah disable asynchronous reprojection
Hey there, I've had login problems earlier, was there a service blip or it was a bug on my side?
I tried to join a world, got the loading (spinning logo), got a "Connecting as Xenthys", back to loading, back to connecting, back to loading, etc.
The login problems have been around for a few weeks now, they changed servers a while back and itâs never really been normal since.
It only happens to some people, but itâs not you.
Ah. I tried restarting the game, cancelling the connection to connect manually again (which had to be cancelled as soon as the button appeared), restarting SteamVR but⌠nope. Can't play.
The world I tried to join had no existing instance by the way, 0 people in both public and private rooms.
And before that I was connected just fine in the base room, it really broke when I attempted to join.
Usually happens to those with very high ping but it is a server problem. Those with low ping may never see the problem
My ping is usually fine, but I can see Steam started to download a game at an hour that looks about like the time I attempted to play so that's certainly it, thanks.
Please upvote this! Thanks! https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/menu-customizations
is there a way to get our discords to pop up like the twitch chat thing on vrchat, like on the back of my other hand or something?
Oculus dash can do that
OVRDrop can probably do it too but that costs money
is oculus better or hive ?
Personal opinion: Oculus far outclasses the Vive in most areas.
Most notably the controllers.
vive* thanks for that Rokk
However, Vive's "lighthouses" do not need an extra USB port on your computer, they only need to be plugged into a power outlet or something.
Oculus has sensors that need a USB port each
So you need two USB ports for the sensors and one for the headset
yeah lighthouses work via bluetooth to the link box
Oculus is also cheaper
how do i do it with oculus dash @languid beacon
And has built-in microphone and headphones, although the mic can vary in quality very heavily.
Oculus mics are known to become "muffled" permanently.
lighthouse is that round small mic thing ?
For VRChat specifically I recommend oculus for the hand/finger presence and ability to have longer sessions
oh do you mean just the menu screen? cuz i wanted discord on my hands like twitch
Picking a product for a single game 4head
the "advanced vive controls" sorted out minor complaints i had so it's better but oculus controls still win imo, also the vive's built-in mic is dollar store tier
that being said i'm not trading my vive in any time
Considering I have 800+ hours on VRChat and 43 hours for all other titles combined, yes. @umbral reef
Vive controlers are fucking dope when playing shooters compared to oculus ones
I want my pew pew sticks to be actually sticks and not well... how you can meme name the oculus one
hahaha pew pew, well i honestly plan to use it for other games too
yeah they feel great for shooters, superhot vr is amazing with it
I got more hours into other games then VRchat
Nothing as fun as killing shit in gorn
Trying to speedrun in SuperHot or doing some L.A Noire stuff
First Iâve heard anyone likes the vive controllers. Lack of analog sticks are dead in the water for me
thanks a lot guys, iâll probably going to put oculus on wishlist !! its cheaper by $300 for me too
yeah the disc is definitely not as good
I always said i liked the vive controls
Tbh i would love if they whre more like WMR style at the top part
@umbral reef the vive wands aren't that great for shooters either
Most shooters I've played work really well with the Oculus controllers considering the grip and trigger mechanics
The WMR controllers are obviously the best for shooters, though.
They work fucking neato with vive
And thats why i said vs oculus its way better
I played like ~25 hours of gorn on the oculus by now and around 20 on vive (yes played it more at my friends place then mine)
one thing confuse me is the lighthouse(?)
when you buy oculus, will it come with the lighthouse or you buy it separately ?
The Vive's lighthouses and the Oculus sensors are both basically the same thing from your end. They are used to track your position.
Both the Vive and the Oculus come with these included. You do not have to buy any yourself.
ahh i see, so its come in set ?
The Oculus Touch bundle comes with everything you need. The Vive comes with basically everything except headphones, which you need the "deluxe audio strap" for.
Yeah, Oculus Rift is only sold in the Bundle now, along with the controllers and sensors
@median basalt You get earbuds
Oh I see
Pretty good ones actually
Imagine paying 700 euros and getting earbuds 
Nothing amazing at all- Far from. But its not 'Hema' earbuds
Either way the Vive might become better in the future once you're no longer stuck with the wands
But for now I'd say get an Oculus
Im fucking hyped to see how the new vive stuff will work
Both on the business side and how they improve there tech
Mainly pure because i dont want oculus to rule all of the market share with them going for mobile VR
This gen is practically the last one Oculus will see.
Oculus has no more future left in the desktop market, and the mobile market is already covered by corporations with more experience.
i just saw oculusâs controller and its different from what i imagine (like vive you grip it so it look like fingers in the game ? while oculus like controller? or iâm just being dumb ...)
Tbh
I legit dont see why there are some companies who have to be special already with there "Super HD screens"
@pliant iron not really
The Oculus Touch controllers track your thumb and index finger
So if you stick your finger out and point, you will actually point ingame
Why not just make a slightly better product
Price it at Vive price or make it a 'extreme luxury thing' while providing it all
The Vive wands can only use the touchpads for gestures
Well I dunno why companies are dead set at higher resolutions without offering budget alternatives
ohhh i get it, i didnt see the index finger button on top
It legit feels like all companies are out of touch with what consumers want
You are not selling a service- You sell a product
I think it's a little soon to be saying this is the end of Oculus. There may be other corporations with more experience in the mobile space, but there isn't anyone who is offering a mobile headset on par with the Oculus Quest
Tbh something like Samsung could start up a company right now and be on part with specs atleast
They are way more experienced in most fields beside the real VR part...
What is indeed extremely important đ
i got the oculus cause its cheaper and i like the controllers better. ive never been one to care about the resolution of anything, cause games with a low resolution can still look good! for me its about comfort and how easy it is to use.
Whatâs with people spilling their innermost feelings on public maps, then they donât want you in the conversation? Fucking take it in private. Donât shoo me away becaus youâre right where I can talk to you.
waiting for knukle so can get FBT also
well just bc they in public don't mean they cant talk ig
thats true. if im having a conversation with someone in a public area, itâs weird to just butt in. if they have something interesting to contribute or something funny to say then its less weird
but the internet is made for oversharing
Donât want people to jump in, dont fucking talk about it on a public server then act like a twat cus people just wanted to talk.
ik purpose of public is 2 meet ppl and have fun but liek
u gotta respect ppls bounds ig
Then keep it somewhere else
Obviously.
it mostly depends on the person honestly, some people are okay with it and some arent. i just move on if they dont wanna talk, there are a ton of other conversations going on at the same time
i get it if ur like joining a friend or something but
also i like how no matter if someones on desktop or vr u can always tell when theyre hammered lmao
Itâs that they reacted to me by showing me away, on a public server, where they stood talking about people having died of cancer and shit. Like Jesus fucking Christ, think about what you talk about and where, and donât be twats when people enter a conversation thatâs public.
or stoned out of their mind lol
ye lol
But yeah Ive come across a lot of cases of oversharing.
some dude in desktop kept like moving around when talking to people slurring and saying "dude" so many times
yeah theres no need to be rude honestly. like i know its the internet but still
Things Iâd rather not hear people talk about. The sharing of deeply private things.
he said just some random stuff lol
when i overshare im funny at least
peeps in vrchat are surprisingly welcoming though, ive only had problems with anyone like.. a couple of times
People are welcoming even when I sound like 12
@pliant iron easier to show than type. Oculus roughly matches your hand gestures . Vive does not do this but knuckle controllers will
This is the reason i recommend oculus for VRChat over vive. It may not seem like much but finger presence is part of the magic of vr for me and Iâd strongly miss it if I used vive
yea that y i want knuckles soon
I havejt been able to use my oculus yet however the controllers feel so cozyyyy
I feel like I want age verification lockout on rooms...
Yeah Iâve always said Nintendo GameCube controllers are objectively the most comfortable controller ever made but oculus touch tops it
I only want oculus, vive has bad suport and idk
just get it with occulus
My friend was debating between vive or oculus and I manaaaged to convince him to get oculus and he loves it so much and it makes me happy ;-;
I mean you can hybrid vive trackers and oculus, it just costs more
He got roomscale to
which is why i said i would sell my oculus
I wish it was friday so I could buy my pc
I wish I had too but my computer canât even handle it so I had to go with an oculus
Would've really wanted those leg trackers.
mixing them might be more expensive or just as expensive in the end.
on like craigslist or amazon or ebay whatever
It's less expensive.
I dont have enough USB ports for mixing either.
Oculus will feel great even if your laptop is on google images which is as far as I made it
Usb hubs exist
It's still less expensive to buy a powered USB extender
THen it's suddenly more expensive.
Im getting a usb hub so I can use my own headset
Nope
well like
Yes. I live in fucking Sweden.
OK? THat doesn't make the overall cost more expensive...
Isnât oculus coming out with a Kinect-like tracking?
Welcome to price differences.
Welcome to "It doesn't matter, you already bought the Oculus so your base price is already higher"
Oculus camera tracking
Yeah and im in canada price is still different
I'd end up having to buy so much extra shit that it wouldn't be worth it.
I mean, have you done the math
oculus controllers + 2-3 oculus sensors + 3 vive trackers + 2-3 vive base stations
You can only have two vive base stations
if vive is more expensive than the oculus kit
- USB hub
you already have the 2 oculus sensors as well if you have an oculus
then yea
Usb hubs arent pricy
+assuming your PC can run it all together
running it together isnt rlly a problem
why assume? lol
If your pc cant handle vr why get vr
you have an oculus, why would yours not run it
the problem is more the game than any driver or anything
Or if u have a lapto dont get vr
My computer can run oculus but not vive
i have a vr ready laptop
If you're above minimum you should be fine
hold up I'll check what it'd all cost me.
Ye same but the majority of laptops have misconnected hdmis and may not have a display port
970 or better, i5 or i7 something with at least 3Ghz
total oculus + vive stations and trackers
And npbody knows to check that first including mr
oculus is actually a little bit heavyier on the pc then the vive 
then do total vive + trackers
754 + oculus CAD $$
With a mixed setup, you've got 400 (headset), 300 (trackers) 270 (lighthouses). Totaling 970 plus tax. THat's USD, obviously more expensive where you are. Add 60 if you want the third Rift sensor.
Converting to Vive: 400 (Oculus Headset, you already bought it so it should be included in the overall 'cost'), 500 (full vive kit), 300 (vive trackers) that's 1200 USD. Obviously more where you are.
U have the oculus so its not +oculus
Best case scenario you can sell your headset for like 200-ishin which case you might break even assuming you can see it for a decent price
remove the 400 in case u sold it or never had it
What? you sold it for 400? LOL
no
and why would I remove it when it's converting to vive which was in bold?
i said in case u never had it
@languid beacon the tracking is so smooth, iâm amazed ... i did asked it to my friends before but they all said compare to vive the tracking is horrible thats why i have doubts
it gonna be like 800 right
Why would I remove it "in case u never had it" when the price is for converting which again is in bold
Like actual, read bold letters?
unless you only have usb 2.0 the tracking isnt that much different @pliant iron
I'm responding to his idea that it would cost him less money to convert
2.0 tracking isnt even bad at all
@umbral reef so usb 2.0 tracking is also necessary ?
Its not bad but if you are using 3.0 type tracking its worth it
Ow i for the love of god hope you only have usb 2.0 ports
but you kinda need the 3.0 ports
yea it cheaper if u can sell oculus for 300 or more
And regardless, full body is more on Oculus. That's very obvious so no need to even wonder what the difference is.
iâm not sure because i havent build my PC just yet
It's somewhere around 270USD more
500+300 = Vive
400+300+270 = Oculus, with an optional +60 for the third sensor.
Legit if you are building a pc make sure you have enough USB ports
well, 'optional'
Just for the clean look its worth it imo
As screw them usb hubs looking all derpy
can you add extra ports ? or just better have more than less type ?
It'd cost me 724 euro, not including taxes and shipping. A USB internal card, because external ones are bad, would cost me 50-60 euro. I've already paid 430 euro for my current Oculus+Rift.
internal card for 50/60 bucks 
If I want more than 2 ports, yes.

External ones are bad? that's what a lot of mixed setup users have
the inatek thingy costs liek 20⏠so lets say 30bucks max 
and i don't see many issues that aren't standard FBT issues
wll external ones are hubs not separate addon cards with own controllers
which is the main point on why you want one
Yes.
vive here cost 1 grand
ooooooof
oculus just $700
"just"
So the costs in the end aren't THAT far apart. Sadly.
FOr me.
that upcharge
depends on currency ? iâm willing to throw the extra $300 for the PC instead if vive and oculus isnt that much different
is that 1000 in pounds or euros or something
bc 600 is a pretty large upcharge
yeah they pay about 80 USd more than we do
ig americas prices are just better for VR
Oculus, including Rift, is 500ish now.
they pay 80 more USD for their Vive and about 20 more USD per tracker
For some damned reason, the Vive is now the more affordable one, in terms of bang for your buck.
At least from what I feel.
vive is more expensive right ?
A bit.
But it's dropped considerably.
yea mostly bc oculus is making it more affordable and working on quest
That's just the Oculus.
Oculus kinda feels like a dead end, what with not using lighthouse
not yet change to my countryâs currency + custom which would make me pay around $300 since its electronic
It does feel like a dead end.
I regret going Oculus. There's nothing to build on and all Oculus cares about now is making cheaper, worse VR.
so its probably not on their agenda
THeyve said they dont care about it.
That's the upside to the Vive. It's more expensive, but it's also more of a "foundation"
yea
It's not worth it, to them.
ive wanted to get a teslasuit or somehing tho
ok now iâm more confused on oculus or vive ...
those things look really cool
buying unsopported hardware lol
and apparently mix and match with other vr systems
Dont invest in prototypes.
its basically like the suit from RPO
its being released in 2019
if it doesnt flop ima try it
welp for now my main is build a PC first, after that maybe iâll come again and ask oculus or vive hahaha
I'm gonna buy a new bed...
@pliant iron mmany people say for comfort and if youre mainly gonna play vrchat go with rift
I wish I could hook the rift controller to my ps3 and play spyro with the comfortable controllers...
@covert linden i wanted the one that flexible enough for most VR game in the steam
Dont all vrs work for all games?
But then you see all the people with body tracking and you wish you could swing your hips like them đŚ
I dont wish that I just wanna pet lolis and have roomscale
yes but earlier Oclac said something about pew pew is better
All my friends have rift ans they really like it and dont want vive so I mean
well vive does cost extra ...
Mic aalso realllly suggests it
I love my rift. I haven't tried Vive though so
I went for the one that was most comfortable
Vive is pricier with terrible support and it all breaks easy
Same, Comfortttt is keey for me
rift is more comfortable than vive ?
The rest didn't matter for me since they are more or less the same quality and such
100%
Imo
oohhh thats new to me
There is not a single person ive met who says vive is cozier
The controllers are so natural... they feel so nice
I have rift but my laptop wont let me use it so.. but one thing I know is the controllers are cozy because its all ive toyed with xD
then back to rift it is ...
one thing i wanted to ask though
i found used rift for $550 while new one is $700, is it better if i get the used one ?
it said it only been use 3 times and then into the box they go
You wont have a warrenty with the old one is the only thing, if you buy it through amazon you have a warrenty and can get it fixed if it is to break
HM that's always a gamble like all other hardware
And i doubt theyve uzed it 3 times and put it in the box right after who is that organized cmon
The warrenty is the main thing youre losing out on
Even if theyre right its barely used and in the box always, theres no warrenty
i guess youâre right on that
I was told buying it from a third party like amazon is the best for warrenty purposes
But I bought mine from the oculus store
for me if its from US base store then it has to be the official store because custom people here know very well any electronic from amazon is expensive so they will charge a lot more than it should
@pliant iron when I went on amazon charged the same
yes but the custom people who work here will know its from amazon and will told me to pay custom fee a lot more
compare to official website that is
I got my oculus on sale for christmas tho like on the 30th, It was a good sale but then I learned it wont work on ny laptop
Idk the fees were the same for me because oculus sells it on amazon not amazon
is your laptop a gaming type ?
no no, i dont mean the website fee; i mean the custom people here who will tell me to pay extra fee for the items
My birthday is this saturday so Im buying a pc on it, cuz thats also payday
Canât we favorite our personal avatars?
so example the rift cost $350, if i buy it from amazon lets say everything is $500 in total including everything, once the package got here it will be progress by custom worker
once they read where the package come from, they will email me and ask me to pay certain fee for the items when if i buy it from the official store, they wont tell me to pay the fee
ahh thats nice !! iâm still not close to building my Pc but iâm getting there
Why? Thatâs like the only reason Iâd ever favorite an avatar
I have a build for just 700$ my boyfriend madr for me on pcpartpicker
@tepid kite bc you cant
But why
Favouritingg is meant for community avatars
yeah weird indeed, thats why i avoid buying items from amazon or animate or any known website
Is there a technical issue or was it just not thought about
Ive never had problems with amazon, never had to pay more etc
when i lived on different country, i never have this problem; only this one i do
I sent this to tyler and his only comment was to change the ssd because you cant cheap out on the ssd but you get the idea
thats a good set there
Im trying to quit my job so its suppose to be cheap but effective
i think i also pick the same memory and processor, forgot the others
Idk much about pcs so Im not too sureee about my own stats xD
same here, i told my brother to pick the rest since i mostly just pick the two while comparing to the list of games i want to play
My friend tyler is a pc expert, I doubt theres anything he doesnt know. Hes saved my ass many times when something odd happens to my system, even when everyone else has no idea how to do anything about it, so I trust his word a lot
Hes teaching me so im proud
ooff thats nice and you should be proud !! youâre getting his knowledge 
I am proud. my laptop would be completely fucked if he wasnt here
because windows corrupted itself when I was updating drivers and I wouldnt have known how to fix it.. I had like 5 people trying to help and nobody knew til I asked him
but fixing it took the longest 12 hours of my life omg
SAMEEE
i wont be doing much and probably still encounter the connection timed out which sucks ...
Anyone got all 50 coins in the Verhack world yet?
guys can someone help me? i need create something for claim my avatar ( logo, profile pic. etc) but i dont know how
Hi, My laptop HP is NEW for windows 10
okay?

My screen is 2180 pixels
and?
also you probably meant to say 2160 pixels
the laptop hp is faster
my screen is 40 columns
My older brother threw the broth and decomposed the laptop hp.
maybe an asus or alienware etc and I'll understand
umm idk wtf that's even supposed to mean lol
Im an acer fanboybut ive got msi
its google translated or mistranslated, its not their native language
oh, guess that makes sense












