#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 689

odd lava Dec 25, 2018, 1:20 PM

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Yeah it should work

obsidian fern Dec 25, 2018, 1:21 PM

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Yeah

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 1:21 PM

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OK just wanted to know

obsidian fern Dec 25, 2018, 1:22 PM

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You also might need a bluetooth dongle

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For the controllers

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 1:22 PM

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I got that for it too

obsidian fern Dec 25, 2018, 1:22 PM

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vrclike

mighty galleon Dec 25, 2018, 1:26 PM

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bug

boreal plaza Dec 25, 2018, 1:27 PM

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i must say.... the annoying af avatar spam got so much worse since the cloning feature is here x.x i am often in public worlds and there only need to be one guy that has some ear and eye raping, effect spamming screen shaking annoying as hell avatar and you can be sure that 2-5 other people copy it and summon the hell on earth. i could just block avatars by default but meh. would be nice if that wouldnt be needed

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 1:31 PM

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Make sure to report all the users using those avatars
Anyone who uses them will get clapped for doing it if you have proof

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 1:39 PM

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also use safety settings

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there is no reason not to at this point in the game

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 1:48 PM

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🇲 AvarieYay 🇪 KannaWave 🇷 KellySalute 🇷 KannaHeart 🇾
StripesThumbsup 🇨 knuckles 🇭 lanfear_smile 🇷 yay 🇮 Awoooo 🇸 businessdoge 🇹 cirnodabby 🇲 nobooli 🇦 AnimeHeadpat 🇸

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 1:49 PM

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merikuri

near saffron Dec 25, 2018, 1:49 PM

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click

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 1:54 PM

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yeah there's next to no reason to even have animations on in Publics

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Only thing would be mute communication

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but that can be done case by case

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 1:55 PM

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yeah and you can just say "oh hold up" and show avatar.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Mhm mhm

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:12 PM

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dunno if someone cant see my marker i just go away, one of the more unfortunate parts of the saftey update

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must suck for visitors and lower ranked users, since they are more likely to have animations blocked

mighty galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:13 PM

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everyone for me have those blocked

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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I have everything blocked on all ranks expect the avatar

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:14 PM

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I mean nothing wrong with having your animations blocked. Best case scenario, I don't get crashed or particle spammed or have my screen shaken. Worst case scenario, I can't see your avatar wink.

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:16 PM

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you are restricting yourself by blocking those for everyone. I only block animations and shaders for visitors, since they dont have much of an incentive to not do things that crash people. Since the saftey update i had one person crash me and it was a trusted user too.

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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"restricting yourself" in what way? It's proven to help protect against being crashed. I have animations blocked for everyone who isn't a Friend.

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Not really restricting my self I just don’t care for them I only have everything unblocked on friends if I see the person is chill I unhide there stuff

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:17 PM

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no one on user or above will crash you, there are a lot of intersting things to be seen that you will block out

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:18 PM

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"No one on user or above will crash you" yikes, that's not true. Most of the crashers I've seen and know are trusted

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:18 PM

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I’ve been crashed from users that are trusted users

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:18 PM

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I've actually been exclusively crashed by Trusted lol I can count probably 5 times, and it would be more if I didn't block animations

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and then there's times I've seen them crash others around me

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Fewer people try due to the update, but it's still pretty common.

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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thats unfortunate, guess i am lucky then. Still I would rather get crashed sometimes than block myself off from the world

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Either way don’t really care for people’s animations and shaders and that if I don’t know them

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:19 PM

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Block....yourself off from the world? By blocking animations? That's a bit of a hyperbole isn't it?

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I've seen a lot of time in publics, even moreso this winter break. Literally the only thing I dont' see is an animation, unless I want to see their avatar.

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You say that as if turning off animations means I've isolated myself in some private world bubble when it just means I don't see someone's avatar wink or say "nyaa"

pliant prawn Dec 25, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I worked really hard on that nyaa you better goddamn see it

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:21 PM

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yes, you will see but a shell of what people chose to express themself as

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:22 PM

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A shell? I have them on for friends and barely see any difference when I'm with just them, or with a mixture of friends and strangers.

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People played the game just fine before these overrides even existed and had no problem expressing themselves. I don't need to see someone's ear moving as they mash their "Nyaa" button to move them 50 times while playing the same audio clip to understand them if they simply express themselves with words, assuming they're not mute in which case I just show their avatar

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Tbh- I get not being able to see markers
Beside that... Well no

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Its an addon of who you want to show off

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:25 PM

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Yeah, I always turn on mute's markers

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Not who someone is- As i hope people have more human in them then spamming some commands...

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:26 PM

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never once had one try to bait and switch me either.

pliant prawn Dec 25, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Yo what do you got against cat girls my dude?

static rampart Dec 25, 2018, 2:27 PM

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by blocking animations on all people you will overlook people you may have found intersting if you had animations on. You won't know what you potentially miss since you will not see it out of fear being screwed with by a crasher

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:28 PM

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Except I had no choice but to play with them off before the system existed not once have I said "BREEEH SICK MEME DOOD LEMME ADD U M8" lol

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:28 PM

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For me I’m not missing much pretty much seen everything at this point people do the same thing

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 2:29 PM

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I dont do it myself- Got nothing blocked myself at all so GWnanamiLaceShrug
If someone just has annoying stuff they get there avatar blocked and if they are annoying by voice you get fully blocked 👏

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:29 PM

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"WHOOOOOOA YOUR EARS MOVE?! LEMME ADD YOU" like that doesn't happen. I add people based on actual interaction, not just some meme.

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 2:30 PM

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@rigid crescent Most of the peeps i talk to ingame talk to me thanks to the memes 👀

sour galleon Dec 25, 2018, 2:30 PM

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Don’t be surprised people actually did that way back in the old days @rigid crescent xD

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:31 PM

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I meant with me, that doesn't happen. I'm not gonna add someone cause they're a sick memer.

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Someone coming up and opening a box with a 👌 in it doesn't make me want to be their friend lol

true sky Dec 25, 2018, 2:37 PM

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Got a more comfortable office chair ablobsmilehappy

night lark Dec 25, 2018, 2:44 PM

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PADORU PADORU

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 2:49 PM

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Merry Padorumas

true sky Dec 25, 2018, 2:55 PM

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reee

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Merry Smegmas

true sky Dec 25, 2018, 2:55 PM

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Merry Clickmas

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clicking

indigo fern Dec 25, 2018, 3:05 PM

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vrpill

zinc solar Dec 25, 2018, 3:06 PM

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　(¸,·´　(¸＊ℳerry ℭhristmas!

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Hope everyone has a good Christmas! If someone gives VRBooty for Christmas, you might need to reevaluate your life!

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 3:21 PM

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Merry Christmas vrchat!

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 3:22 PM

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Merry Christmas. Stay safe this holiday

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Don’t forget to install Adblock on your loved ones new devices.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Merry Christmas everyone! Y’all are my favorite discord. ♥️ keep being you

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 3:34 PM

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forsenE

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 3:35 PM

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And change the passwords of electronic devices

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 3:35 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/michaelscott-wink-yes-gif-5795910

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 3:36 PM

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I have the easiest password to remember, it's **************

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"*******"

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damn thing won't let me put all the asterix's in, oh well

vast tulip Dec 25, 2018, 3:51 PM

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Merry Christmas everyone tororosleepy

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 3:52 PM

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ditto

fallow shale Dec 25, 2018, 3:54 PM

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oof

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:00 PM

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merikuri~!

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Guys I have a question

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Which is better oculus or Vive

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Do you want full body ever? Vive.

Do you not care about full body? Rift.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Everyone's going to give you a different answer. In my opinion, focusing exclusively on VRChat, I say Oculus, because it matches your hand poses. Vive picks them from a menu.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:10 PM

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menu is a really strong term

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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it's a pie wheel

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I mean full body seems awesome to me but. I don’t have 1 thousand dollar or a big room

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Then go with the Rift

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I feel missing out on VRC matching your hands really misses out on some magic

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I mean it only matches your hands if you don't mess with your overrides 😛

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:11 PM

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i have both and i have no preference

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i just vive because fbt is 345241903945x easier

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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hashire

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sori

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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yo

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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the headsets themselves are identicle. only the controllers and ability to go FBT are relelevent. VIve has FBT, Oculus has objectively better controllers and no FBT

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Full Body on the Vive is about 800 bucks, while it's about 950 on the Rift, plus it's a bit more finnicky. If you're not interested in spending the money, then Rift for sure.

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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kaze

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no

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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i don't know the rest because i haven't seen the entire thing in a meme in text format

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Yeah i have FBT working with my rift, but running a calibrator every time you start SteamVR is just an extra step you have to live with

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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rip

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well uuh

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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PADORU PADORU

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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was about to say

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MaidLul

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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And as always @vocal shard make sure your PC can handle VR before you get it

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Wait I thought rift didn’t have full body

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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wmr is nice too if it happens to be a little cheaper in your area. It's the same price where I live but I've heard some can be quite a bit less expensive than the vive/rift.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:13 PM

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RIft doesn't have full body, you can just buy vive's trackers and a base station and use them without owning an actual vive.

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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I have an Alienware, GTX 1060, i7 computer with 16 gb of ram

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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also you don't have to worry about setting up towers

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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It's more expensive doing that.

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Oh. So I’m guessing you have to work around for that

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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wmr is literally plugin and go

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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it's not more expensive if you already own an oculus

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Oh then you'll be fine, I'd maybe look into some form of cooling though. I've heard a lot of stories about gaming laptops running hot with VR.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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this guy's asking what headset to get, so he owns nothing 😛

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Anyway my pc is also built to play vr

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:14 PM

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get oculus 💤

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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get oculus

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Get Oculus, or wait until Vive Pro gets cheaper.

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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they have good exclusives

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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So I’m good.
If there’s a work around to get full VR with oculus then I’m getting oculus

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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The problem is it's also a laptop, and while plenty are advertised as VR Ready, VRChat definitely is a whole different beast. You'll probably be fine for the most part but definitely look into cooling

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:15 PM

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What model of i7 are you on Pious?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:16 PM

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@vocal shard The "work around" is to buy the vive sensors to work with the vive trackers, so it gets expensive.

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:16 PM

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i7 7700 quad core

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:16 PM

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I mean, if you wanna spend triple digit $$$ on vr just to move your legs about and have tons of stuff hanging on your body, go for vive forsenE

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Yeah, Full Body on the Oculus is basically "Cheaper now, more expensive later"

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Well I don’t have the money for Vive now

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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If I'm being 100% honest though, I own Rift + vive trackers, and most days I don't use them. I just use my rift without the full body, it's easier to set up and jump in real quick, i don't feel like putting on my belt and shoes, lol

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Yeah then mgiht as well go Rift

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Imma go for rift

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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then you wouldn't have money for full body in near future

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good choice

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god damn it

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:17 PM

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I'm hybrid full body and I've probably spend 90%+ of my hours using the full body setup. When my trackers run out of power I stop playing 😅

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:18 PM

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imagine having to stop playing every 4 hours OmegaPill

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Do keep in mind. Soon, Vive is getting a thing called Knuckle controllers and when they are out, Vive will have better controllers than Oculus.

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:18 PM

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still shit energy solution

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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oh yeah, vive charges, oculus just drops out batteries and puts in fresh ones, easy to get back in as soon as they battery warning pops up

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Yeah I need to buy a bunch of usb batteries. I can tether myself with some long usb cables currently but it's kind of a terrible solution.

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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exactly

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that's why it's so bad

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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Do we know if knuckle controllers will use batteries?

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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no idea myself

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:19 PM

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I'm so tired of charging my trackers

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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yellowkek

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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While other users have wireless headsets, I have 4x the number of wires.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Make a marionette avatar.

uncut bluff Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Merry Christmas vrchatters xmasRainbowDance

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Knuckles don't use batteries

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:20 PM

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Merry Christmas MoriMori!

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:21 PM

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Ok 100% get a Rift then. Charging sucks.

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Sorry to Vive fans

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:21 PM

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it really doesn't lol

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"Welp, I'm done." literally plug a thing in

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:21 PM

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I have a big play space walls are far

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:22 PM

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I should get a new mic. Having to use a shotgun mic sucks

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:22 PM

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People that have an issue with charging something sound so lazy...

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:22 PM

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i have good news ghosto

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:22 PM

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I'm honestly a little surprised since the Steam Controller runs on AA batteries. Why not also run each Knuckles controller on a AA battery too?

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:22 PM

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someone completely unrelated posted this and now i remember https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/197871921855987712/527156787418234891/97uylhg8v8621.png?width=678&height=1075

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:23 PM

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I've heard of battery issues with 2.0 things on 1.0 Lighthouses also so not sure how true that is.

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Because it uses a different tracking method, basically.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:24 PM

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This is new info to me. The fact that knuckle controllers are not using batteries is pretty much a deal breaker to me. I need to reassess my hype. This is a big deal to me. ._.
I thought FOR SURE that after seeing Oculus's touch controller's they'd realize batteries are better.

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i hate feeling timed

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:26 PM

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so long as they last as long as my trackers

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I can probably just test it some time since I've got friend with both, but if it's true then the battery life of the knuckles would most likely be lower as well

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Lower battery while on 1.0 lighthouses that is

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:26 PM

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My trackers are supposed to last 8 hours on a full charge, but in reality they tend to only last 4.5

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:26 PM

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are they 2.0 on 1.0 lighthouses?

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 4:26 PM

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anyone use this for their mics 2.4G Wireless Microphone Headset Mic For Voice Amplifier,Speaker, Karaoke, Computer, Teaching, Meeting,Yoga, Singing https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0779C8ZHS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_nNLiCbFD2625R

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:27 PM

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yes, 2.0 trackers, 1.0 base stations

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:27 PM

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i pass out and/or need to just stop well before they die

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take an hour break for food or whatever, and come back. /shrug

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:27 PM

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Yeah, then that assessment is most likely true.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:27 PM

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vive wasn't selling standalone 2.0 lighthouses at the time (i don't even know if they are yet)

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:28 PM

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So I'd hazard a guess that that 8 hour battery life on the Knuckles (as of EV3) would be closer to 4 on 1.0s as well

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:28 PM

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Maybe it's just the prototype knuckles that are rechargeable? There's supposed to be at least one more hardware revision afaik

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:28 PM

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also where was it ever listed that trackers are meant to last 8 hours InabaConfused

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:28 PM

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why is the battery shorter just from using a different kind of lighthouse?

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:29 PM

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Because it uses a different kind of sensor or something. I've heard it repeated multiple times but I forget what its called

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:29 PM

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@vocal shard I was told they are supposed to have similar battery life to a vive wand, which is 8 hours isn't it?

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:29 PM

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i have never heard that

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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they do less than a controller

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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bra i think you msged wrong person

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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my vive wands last around 6-8 yeah

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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yeah oops

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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oculus master race'

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lol -dab-

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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Why not both master race.

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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how about, vr master race smart

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:30 PM

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mind blown

earnest harbor Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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Oculus? The headset that's been bricked twice in the last year? lul

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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The issue with 2.0 lighthouses is that if you have them, then you need 2.0 everything

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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in the near future where the poly limit is now 70k but everyone is poor when you go into worlds one man 1 avatar can he save the day

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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"bricked" yes

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They didn't work for like, what? a few hours? still worth the superior controllers if you don't want FBT.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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https://i.imgflip.com/2prf0k.jpg

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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I mean I can say "Vive? The headset with controllers that break within a few weeks?"

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:31 PM

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im not replacing my original vive. maybe for vive 3 or something else better that might show up, i dont think the jump to the pro is worth it at this point.

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:32 PM

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"Vive? The company that hasn't replaced people's sent in products for months at a time?"

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Everyone I know with the Vive Pro regrets it lol there's really no point.

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:32 PM

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regrets?reasons?

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:32 PM

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The increase in quality isn't equal to the increased cost

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:32 PM

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( i need to reasons to not end up buying it until the next version = lol

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id believe it would be worth it only for the increased bigger pixel density...coz thats a big plus in vr terms imo

earnest harbor Dec 25, 2018, 4:33 PM

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But anything better than desktop and either are better than wmr

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:33 PM

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It's really not that big of an increase

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I think wmr is pretty good 😅
(rift user here)

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:34 PM

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any diffrence is a big diffrence regarding pixel density lol, unless you are one of those that can forget them while u play

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ive still havent managed to ignore past the pixels sadly 😦

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:34 PM

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I mean, not enough to justify the price

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:34 PM

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oh yeah, on that i agree

earnest harbor Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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After a year of wmr..... it has some glaring limitations that really break immersion all the time.

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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vive pro here complete is almost the price of my pc lol

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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I know two people who got a Vive pro as their first headset, never wore any modern headset or dev kit before

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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i could never see myself with wmr lol

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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A lot of people thought it was the Vive 2.0 so they got it

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:35 PM

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Using only two people to go on doesn't make a good sample size, but as the two people who spent the most in VR... they seem to be into VR the least.

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"it's neat"

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:36 PM

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lol

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Also if not sure if someone was curious about the difference between steam vr 1.0 and 2.0 tracking but this post has a pretty decent explanation.
https://skarredghost.com/2017/06/07/need-know-steamvr-tracking-2-0-will-foundation-vive-2/

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:37 PM

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better tracking means less jittery movements in vrc? coz if not i cant care less lol

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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person who just bought a Vive Pro, 3 days later "I'm probably gonna get an oculus for beat saber, I'm afraid of sweating in the vive pro"

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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I'm wondering if having 3+ 2.0 lighthouses might help mitigate reflection issues

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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lol

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Maybe it would make it worse? More places for the light to scatter around from.

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Oh right, the 2.0 stuff can have more than 2 lighthouses

crisp ruin Dec 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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Tbh if you’re not addicted to vrchat I’d find it hard to validate getting vr

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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I got VR before I hit 50 hours lol

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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well, I'm thinking that right now it has two sources of data: the IMU and one lighthouse (if only one is visible), so it can't reject the bad sensor

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however with two lighthouses visible, it can detect which one is an outlier

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and having 3+ lighthouses increases the likelihood of having multiple visible

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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I got 4 hours in VRC before I bought a headset

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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and if you're careful with placement you can maybe make sure that only one is reflecting at a time

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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being pet on desktop does it

crisp ruin Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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I played 2 hours of vrchat then decided I would get vr before playing anymore

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:39 PM

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@languid beacon headpats are the VR killer app

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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Please remember to pet your desktop users ~

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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One thing I did that I think was probably weird was make my own avatar before really playing more than 3 or 4 hours

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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make desktop users wear a smaller avatar than you, and pet them. It's like cheating.

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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well it's awesome that vrc in vr makes it feel like you are really close to your friends ( that in rl u cant be near ), so its rly nice

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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I uploaded a really shitty one before I started, then did a custom before I went any further

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:40 PM

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@rigid crescent it's harder to do that early now that visitors can't upload

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:41 PM

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Oh that's true, some people aren't getting New User for days lol

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even weeks

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:41 PM

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yeah i have like a group of 10+ second life buddies i've known for +11 years, we all ditched SL for VRChat, and we all got rifts. it's made us much closer than we've ever been in a decade of knowing each other

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we feel like we've met.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:41 PM

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IMU is used in a very useless way atm

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 4:42 PM

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thats lovely Adeon c:

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:42 PM

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yeah, I hit almost 24 hours before I got new user, but that was mostly because it took me a while before I stopped browsing invite only avatar world instances and got some friends ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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@safe prism I'm sure it's used as an input to a kalman filter or something at least

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:42 PM

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like.. helps for <1s losses in tracking but it stops caring after that

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i imagine it's used for smoothing too yeah

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:42 PM

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you really don't want to integrate IMU output over a longer interval

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but it's essential since the headset framerate is faster than the lighthouse scan interval

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:43 PM

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Doesn't the IMU handle most of the "tracking"? I thought the lighthouses were essentially to fix the position and give it a point of reference but then it uses dead reckoning in between light flashes?

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:43 PM

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the problem with the IMUs is the error accumulates over time

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the lighthouses have error too, but the error doesn't accumulate, so it can be used as a fixed reference to correct IMU error

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and a kalman filter is a common mathematical technique to combine the two

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:44 PM

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I was placed into "User" with 131 hours when the trust system came out, so I don't know when I got new user or user. but I got known at 153, and Trusted at 302.

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:45 PM

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I was Vet along with probably 75% of my friends and their close friends.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:45 PM

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I'm very glad Vet was removed. I know most vets would disagree

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:45 PM

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Lol vet didn't matter just like none of the other ranks matter.

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:46 PM

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the registry has a bunch of extra ranks too - eg NegativeTrustLevel, NegativeTrustLevel1, NegativeTrustLevel2

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also VeryNegativeTrustLevel

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Very negative lol

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Well at the choice of having Vet rank or Friend rank, I think friend rank is a better system

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Yeah friend is more convenient

hasty wedge Dec 25, 2018, 4:47 PM

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ＢＡＣＫ　ＩＮ　ＭＹ　ＤＡＹＳ　ＯＦ　ＢＥＩＮＧ　Ａ　ＶＥＴＥＲＡＮ　ＵＳＥＲ　Ｉ　ＷＡＳ　ＡＬＷＡＹＳ　ＴＨＥ　ＰＥＡＫ　ＯＦ　ＡＴＴＥＮＴＩＯＮ　ＥＶＥＲＹＯＮＥ　ＣＡＭＥ　ＢＥＧＧＩＮＧ　ＦＯＲ　ＭＥ　ＴＯ　ＡＤＤ　ＴＨＥＭ　but now as a filthy trusted user im seen as a normie

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#bringbackveteran

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Lol

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:47 PM

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Vet is still there just not visible

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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As the genie of the lamp, I will grant your wish. Vet rank is back exactly as it was. Your wish is fulfilled. It's also still yellow, and no one notices.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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needing to feel superior over other people in 2018

hasty wedge Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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yes

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it increases my ego 💪 chinoplz

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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if you want to feel superior over other people just put on full body trackers 😉

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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^

hasty wedge Dec 25, 2018, 4:48 PM

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i have em

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:49 PM

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unless you're around others with it too

hasty wedge Dec 25, 2018, 4:49 PM

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now excuse me back to erping with desktoppers

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:49 PM

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then its either camaderie or pro-level dancers that playfully flex

subtle prawn Dec 25, 2018, 4:49 PM

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or just sit around with them on 🤦

indigo fern Dec 25, 2018, 4:49 PM

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Desktopper erp heuheupog

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:50 PM

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seated mode with trackers thonking

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:50 PM

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I will admit, i bought trackers just to sit on the floor

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:51 PM

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if a headset is too expensive, just buy a tracker for your head and hands and play with desktop controls

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:51 PM

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^^^

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:51 PM

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Dancing? full body motion? No, i just wanted to sit on the floor

subtle prawn Dec 25, 2018, 4:51 PM

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vrpill

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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heck I just want to sit in chairs without sinking into them

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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In gonna be hype as fuck when I get leggies

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Dancing? I thought people were just really drunk while throwing yhe legs

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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buy a realsense camera, invest some time into getting it tracking your head and possibly your hands

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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It is nice. get a full body avatar prepaired in advance

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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profit

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that's the same thing wulfie-kun

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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@languid beacon step one: figure out how to use unity

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I suppose

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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I got trackers because my kinect wouldn't track hip rotation 🤷

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:52 PM

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Blender. Unity is cake.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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dancing while sober is a great way to get hurt

indigo fern Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Time to put fbt in your name then LUL

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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As far as VRChat goes. you really don't need to "learn" unity, just the few things VRChat lets you do in unity

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Im too cool for full body fix, i want to be set at 4’3 before my ava works

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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All my avatars are fbt ready, no reason not to 👌

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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mood

indigo fern Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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Just set your irl height to 4'3

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:53 PM

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why fix when i can just scale my world down and jam my head into position

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:54 PM

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I need to get into avatar making anyway, the public avatar i was using before apparently has too many dynamic bones ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Just become 4'3''

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:54 PM

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yes please

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Exactly, such stupid people in this world when you dont even have to fix it at all

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Protip lie about your height and say you are an inch, or maybe 2 inches, shorter. it kinda assumes human eyes sit at the top of their head

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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lock in so it's perfectly where your eyes are then drop the height 2 inches so your ass shakes more

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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I found a calibration tutorial on YT earlier that effectively forces vrchat to calibrate to height instead of arm length

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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What really i'd love that

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how

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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@languid beacon playspace adjustments

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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Imagine putting your viewpoint orb anyway than slightly inside the head/between the eyes.

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu2VZ1w8J2E

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:56 PM

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I always place the orb between eyes

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:56 PM

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I dont want to calibrate at all, game cant force me to pose

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:56 PM

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When you are not stretched out, the target will be matched perfectly where you put it on the geometry, so really, between the eyes is the correct location

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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wait this is exactly how i do it

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i assumed everyone did that way of calibration

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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I know people putting it on their nose. Plebs.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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unless it has a big ol cartoon head, then just pretend the giant head is a mascott mask, and put the eyes lower and inside the head where a real human head would be

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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@safe prism maybe they do, I don't have trackers yet so I'm just in the research phase

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:57 PM

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it's so much easier .-.

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aa

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well yeah, you tend to learn what bases match up in what ways

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like for me, TDA proportions are 4'4 for flat feet, 4'5 for heels iirc, shimakaze/waterdemon proportions is 4'11

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 4:59 PM

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So what happens if you calibrate upside down does that count ur head as legs

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:59 PM

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for me

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 4:59 PM

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I don't recommend using playspace movor to fix your floor height. Get Oculus/SteamVR's floor height and VRC's matched up properly and EVERY avatar will work for you. Using playspace to fix it means readjusting it for every avatar

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 4:59 PM

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it maps everything to your hip

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i tried it once uwu

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well i mean

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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I use a modded luka so it's got some long legs, and I added heels on top of that

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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i have to match it up every time anyway

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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Dont worry, hopefully within this year we all can become walking robots with 9 trackers and 12 batterypacks

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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if the floor is too low, change both oculus AND VRC to be a inch lower

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 5:00 PM

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All strapped around us

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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once i'm in, i never really lose it

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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We might be getting to 7 supported trackers some time in 2019

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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@rigid crescent plus finger trackers for knuckles maybe

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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Where will the extra 4 go

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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and i move my playspace far too much and my zero position is somewhere in space uwu

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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knees/elbows?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:01 PM

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trackers tend to work on bones rather than joints

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:02 PM

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I just wish playspace mover didn't move the x-z position of the chaperone bounds

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:02 PM

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there are other tools, besides playspace mover, that can interface with input emulator, some specifically for adjusting floor height only

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:03 PM

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well for floor height you can just enter numbers, right?

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:03 PM

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oh, you can make it not do that

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:03 PM

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you can type in a floor height, yes

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but it's still based off of your true floor height you put in OpenVR / Oculus Home

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:03 PM

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i can't remember if setting in ovras or just a line of code or two to also move the chaperone bounds with the universe

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:04 PM

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hmm

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I'll have to poke around sometime in the code I guess

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:04 PM

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openvr ultra fun

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please enjoy

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:04 PM

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yeah the problem is due to employer limitations I (probably) can't release anything I write for openvr ¯_(ツ)_/¯

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:04 PM

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so for example, SteamVR's floor height of 72 inches with a -2 inch playspace movor offset, is not the same as a SteamVR floor height of 70 with no playspace mover offset

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:04 PM

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so that kind of saps motivation a bit

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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ask for a waiver

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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@safe prism they don't do waivers for the game dev policy. for some reason. it's stupid.

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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Don't tell anyone? Release under an internet handle?

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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I can work on just about anything else open source. but not games.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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wait what

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that's a dumb company

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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VR isn't specifically a game platform, and neither is OpenVR

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:05 PM

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personal project waivers are how innovation happens uwu

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:06 PM

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I guess? I mean, I guess it depends on how I justify it.

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I can probably argue that vrchat isn't a game I suppose

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but it's veeery borderline

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:06 PM

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VR is an input/output device. it's not a game, it's not a game engine, it's not a game console

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it's a monitor and a mouse.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:07 PM

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technically making an openvr app is an app

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not a game

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:08 PM

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well... I suppose it's technically not a game, and the personal participation system is a self-certify and auto-approve system, soooo.... we'll see?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Well nothing you are doing has to be FOR VRChat at all. You're just making stuff for OpenVR

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so justifying VRChat isn't even relelvent

dapper stump Dec 25, 2018, 5:09 PM

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VR movies 10/10

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:09 PM

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vrchat isn't a game either for that matter

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it's a chat platform, just like irssi

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:09 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRUQX8To2Gw

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:10 PM

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wait
half reasonable (and more importantly, enforced,) personal project policy
seattle

are you a microsoft nerd

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:10 PM

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n..nooo?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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He's specifically not allowed to work on games

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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who else is relevant there .-.

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could be xbox/msft games houses

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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yeah if you work in the company you know exactly who I work for with that hint lol

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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ehe

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:11 PM

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(but seriously, not MS)

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:12 PM

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adjacent?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:12 PM

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It's Bunjie isn't it

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:12 PM

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I can neither confirm nor deny any of these rumors

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:12 PM

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ehe

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yeah you're not too hard

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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gottem

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Hmu with those Destiny codes pls

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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good luck :D

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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the best part is you're still wrong 😄

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so convinced and yet still missing the mark

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Lol you worked on Ark/Atlas didn't you

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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no i'm just really not going to push into my second pick

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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Ensemble studios! Oh wait... 😭

night lark Dec 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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i finished both hat kid and bow kid, they can both switch through all hats

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Wait wut

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Don't pressure him to break his NDA's lol

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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^^

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Oh on a gestures? Post pics

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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I mean, nothing actually prevents me from mentioning which company I work for, I just don't really want to say in a public chat channel is all

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:14 PM

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Probably smart

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Hmu with them swag codes tho

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:15 PM

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it's not a games company, just a company with a stick up its ass about games for some reason ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:15 PM

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VBucks

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:15 PM

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It's Unity then.

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:16 PM

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lmao

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:16 PM

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that would make avatar creation much easier for me if it was true I guess?

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:16 PM

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🤔

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Exactly what a Unity dev would say.

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:17 PM

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I mean, when I play stellaris I always make sure to gather plenty of unity

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:17 PM

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there's only two choices in SEA for companies with copyright liability as a major concern

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:17 PM

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sssh

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:17 PM

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denying msft incriminated you

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:D

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 5:18 PM

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Wait is it Twitch

safe prism Dec 25, 2018, 5:18 PM

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twitch is SFO

neon flume Dec 25, 2018, 5:18 PM

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It must be Valve 🙃

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:18 PM

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I mean there's the one starting with M, the one starting with A, the one starting with G, the one starting with F...

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also the one starting with V I guess yeah

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 5:39 PM

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Any of the regulars up for some vrc? 👁

torn nebula Dec 25, 2018, 5:40 PM

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alas, I have no VR until mid-next week extrasadmeu

vast tulip Dec 25, 2018, 5:41 PM

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Hm?

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 5:42 PM

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I'm doing family stuff now

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 5:42 PM

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okanoooo menacing

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notlikethis

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:44 PM

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I can't right now

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 5:46 PM

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Guess I'll ask again

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sooner or later

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:51 PM

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I did so much VR last night

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Would be nice to have a leg tracker for my other foot

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:55 PM

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anyone want to play vrchat with me all of my friends basically dumped me

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:55 PM

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Friend me

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Kattsune Mao

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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alright, hold up, starting up vrchat

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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Can't get on rn tho I'm dead

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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how come?

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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add me

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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I played Vrc until 6am

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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lol

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 5:56 PM

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cant get on

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:57 PM

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hey atleast i got a friend so i ain't complaining

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Learning to make avatars in the day and playing vrc at night

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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neato

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what time is it where you live?

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:58 PM

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High noon

safe yacht Dec 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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where do photos I take with the camera go?

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Try your pictures folder

safe yacht Dec 25, 2018, 5:59 PM

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Yeah!

grizzled pasture Dec 25, 2018, 6:00 PM

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👌

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 6:02 PM

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If anyone wants to play with me, add me: "Soupcan" im the guy with the monkey avatar

vast tulip Dec 25, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Excellent

hidden jewel Dec 25, 2018, 6:40 PM

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ugh, someone with a hacked avatar kept placing portals on me after I blocked him -.- grumble

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er, hacked client

steep reef Dec 25, 2018, 6:50 PM

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does anyone know of any worlds with optimized avatars?

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 7:00 PM

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@steep reef https://www.vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_5031a1ac-987b-40d1-86b8-034578e9615a&instanceId=97950

steep reef Dec 25, 2018, 7:01 PM

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thank you!!

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 7:01 PM

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not all of them are green, but most should be

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 7:03 PM

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I'm using an Acer Mixed Reality headset and for some reason my hands are crossed in VR and my position is weird

umbral oracle Dec 25, 2018, 7:04 PM

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I've had vrchat mix up left and right controllers on vive. Try restarting steamvr and turn on left first then right. Your position being weird no idea

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 7:04 PM

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Tried that. I may have to deal with it

umbral oracle Dec 25, 2018, 7:05 PM

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You can fix issues like this with Openvr input emulator

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It will add an openvr settings page to your steam menu and you can swap controllers for example or even apply offsets relative to head to fix position issues

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But it really shouldn't be necessary for an off the shelf setup

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 7:07 PM

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Just tried floor adjustment in MR so I'm seeing if that helps

rough flax Dec 25, 2018, 7:20 PM

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@inner cape Do you know who the regulars are?

tiny ginkgo Dec 25, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Heh, we need a specific list with names and sleeping schedules

slate thorn Dec 25, 2018, 7:23 PM

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Anyone else of you guys not being able to add friends to your favorites anymore?

safe marsh Dec 25, 2018, 7:24 PM

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peek

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 7:24 PM

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honestly, i cant name you all, I dont remember every single name, but i will recognize if I see you

tiny ginkgo Dec 25, 2018, 7:26 PM

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I'd happily join you but I'm in holiday mode with guests shy

inner cape Dec 25, 2018, 7:27 PM

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ChariotShrug

molten hornet Dec 25, 2018, 7:53 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509099216853925891/524410255250292766/unknown.png

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😄

steep reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:01 PM

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which channel do i go to to ask questions about gameplay?

rough flax Dec 25, 2018, 8:07 PM

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What do you mean gameplay? @steep reef

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 8:07 PM

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I've been happily reminiscing about the first time I ever used vrchat, no hub, no home, hardly any worlds, avatars on marketplace, about 20-30 users, had to download vrchat off a website, not on steam, no body tracking, only vr was oculus dk2, no vive back then, oh, those were the days

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:07 PM

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This one ;p
You can talka bout general VRC stuff and if you need support with a bug or something else its #user-support-old

steep reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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i mean like, how to do stuff in vrchat. i don't know how to add people as friends if they aren't in the same world as me

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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that's easy

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just search for their user name

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then send them a friend request

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you can send a friend request even if they ain't on vrchat at the time, they will be notified when they next log on

steep reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:10 PM

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okay, thanks! i think i may have figured out why it wasn't working- i was in the Worlds tab when i tried to search for them before, but now that I'm in the social tab it's working.

lapis nebula Dec 25, 2018, 8:11 PM

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there ya go, simples

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oh yeah, something else that was different 3 years ago, no discord, we all used Skype, lol, times have deffo changed

native gull Dec 25, 2018, 8:14 PM

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guys

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quick description, low poly vs high poly avatars

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:15 PM

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Same thing if done right beside that one is more optimized

native gull Dec 25, 2018, 8:15 PM

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the high one?

molten hornet Dec 25, 2018, 8:15 PM

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@native gull higher polygons = more lag , lower polygons = less lag but looks crappier

native gull Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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AHHH

umbral reef Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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Not sure why it would need to look more crappy?

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Its legit not true unless you just flat out decimate it all without caring

native gull Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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theres a skipper one with super low poly so i was wondering

molten hornet Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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@umbral reef made it simple in noob terms so dont confuse him

native gull Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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oh wow thanks for that

molten hornet Dec 25, 2018, 8:16 PM

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@native gull lower Polygons just mean less laggy

daring panther Dec 25, 2018, 8:26 PM

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1mil poly sphere should be fine.

molten hornet Dec 25, 2018, 8:27 PM

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...

opaque hawk Dec 25, 2018, 8:33 PM

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When people say polygons don’t lag they are really saying polygons don’t lag as much as other things

earnest harbor Dec 25, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Everything lowers performance, however tris are the lowest impact that people complain about

sinful brook Dec 25, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Does anyone know where I can get this birb avatar? It looks so cool. I have it favorited but it doesnt show up in my favourites https://i.imgur.com/dBHYbKJ.png

winged canopy Dec 25, 2018, 9:16 PM

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You can probably find a birb avatar then add that hat to it. Sorry if that isn’t much help. I’m not actually sure :x

meager solstice Dec 25, 2018, 9:30 PM

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I like and support the weighted performance feature request, so that just because one area is “poor” doesn’t meant the whole model is poor

tacit plank Dec 25, 2018, 9:39 PM

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If your avatar is poor due to dynamic bones, it will be poor in general. But some of the values are a bit weird

meager solstice Dec 25, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I agree, but not all of those effect the performance the same or as much

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And that’s what the feature request attempts to fix

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 9:51 PM

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yeah basically everyone agrees that it need to be weighted

lean valley Dec 25, 2018, 9:54 PM

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You ever just wanna play VRChat and have the urge to play it but cba to actually put on the vr even though it's right there ?

meager solstice Dec 25, 2018, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, when I get home from work. Basically me

dawn plinth Dec 25, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Is it normal to not be able to favorite avatars that are public, if they are not from a world?

night lava Dec 25, 2018, 10:22 PM

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its a commitment

hoary spruce Dec 25, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Anyone else been having connection problems lately?

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I’ve been having loading loop issues and stuff like that. I want to say that it’s the Ethernet cable I’m using but the only application that’s really affected is VRC. I have perfect ping and perfect download speed outside of these issues so I’m not sure

rigid crescent Dec 25, 2018, 10:53 PM

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Yep, known issue and it's not on your end

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 10:54 PM

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I have as well @hoary spruce

viral yacht Dec 25, 2018, 10:59 PM

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Does anyone have the issue where the game tries to log you in with your new name ( changed it since your original ) but it can’t register it because you still need to log in with your old one? I used to have a different name before Mysticcia, so whenever I log in I need to use the old one to get into the game. Recently it’s been trying to just log in using Mysticcia and it can’t get in because it’s not registering my old one

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So basically every time I start the game, I need to log in

halcyon kestrel Dec 25, 2018, 11:39 PM

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OwO

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 11:41 PM

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So apparently kicking yourself will demote your rank.

halcyon kestrel Dec 25, 2018, 11:41 PM

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OOF

languid beacon Dec 25, 2018, 11:41 PM

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I mean, I didn't do it, but someone on reddit did lol

vocal shard Dec 25, 2018, 11:42 PM

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I wonder how this game works exactly same with my social relationship in my real life

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If you can't talk to people irl, you can't talk to people in vrchat

floral aspen Dec 25, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Lol yeah I saw that Adeon

vast tulip Dec 25, 2018, 11:58 PM

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I highly suggest against kicking yourself, no matter how much you think you deserve it!

atomic tusk Dec 25, 2018, 11:59 PM

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there's issues with animations deactiving -_-

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 12:08 AM

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My vive is arriving in less than a hour

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Yay 🎉

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 12:09 AM

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nice

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did you get poles for the lighthouses too?

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:13 AM

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everytime i try logging into my acc, it just says ''Unauthorized''

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:14 AM

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Copy paste ya login information instead of typing it

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:15 AM

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still same problem

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:16 AM

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And you are using your Account name and not Display name?

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:16 AM

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what exactly do you mean, im using the data that is my name ingame aswell

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:16 AM

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Did you change your name

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:16 AM

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it used to always worked

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for like a year now

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nope, always stood the same

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Then try logging onto the website

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:18 AM

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same, just says "Unauthorized"

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:18 AM

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Can try changing your password might work else no idea

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:19 AM

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already did that aswell

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xd

gusty willow Dec 26, 2018, 12:33 AM

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merp

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:43 AM

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@umbral reef nvm im retarded, i used the wrong email

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 12:43 AM

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He's asleep now...

meager plaza Dec 26, 2018, 12:43 AM

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he can still see the ping when he wakes up

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so he can know that i'm dumb i suppose

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Padoru

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Glare

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 1:03 AM

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Co-Ne-Chi-Wa

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:04 AM

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so guys

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we did it
3 day public ban

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Oof.

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:06 AM

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MaidOmegaLUL

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For what

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 AM

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"You have been banned from public world instances until Dec 29, 2018 01:13. Reason: Repeatedly setting malicious avatars to public (very loud, fullscreen shaders, etc)"

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 AM

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OmegaPill

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:08 AM

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YokoRip

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:08 AM

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NO FUN ALLOWED

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:08 AM

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too bad

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:08 AM

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They changed avatar rules now..

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Ain't as fun as it used to be back then

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:09 AM

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epicn't

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:09 AM

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Depends on how bad it was tbh
If you go out to be loud just to be loud and have those cancerous screen shaking effects it's well deserved in my opinion

that's just obnoxious tbh

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:10 AM

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not knowing the biggest memer of all time

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smh

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:10 AM

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lets enforce really strict guidelines on public world avatars
lets also start making ANY avatar set to public cloneable, no matter what
it escaletes
pikachu :o face

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 AM

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Ban is a bit too far as you can just block the avatars
but meh

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 AM

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atleast give us an option to share with friends.

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 AM

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MaidLul

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true

twin jacinth Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 AM

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Yeah that'd be cool

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 AM

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fucking shit. i don't wanna sit on the shit i make, when people really enjoy it

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i want other people to have fun with it too.

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it was way better before the gay ass cloning update

inner cape Dec 26, 2018, 1:13 AM

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ChariotShrug

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compromises need to be made

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untill they realise they need friends only cloning

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:18 AM

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dumb ass shit. actually annoys me

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people came to me who really loved the avatars. they were genuinely really happy to have them.

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:34 AM

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YokoThink

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Probably should cut back on setting things that could be abused in the wrong hands to public. I, assuming it was the emoji man? Cuz I had to block a crowd of them yesterday

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It does suck though, but what else could they do?

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They def don’t want people leaving the game due to spam. Specially when a lot of people might be using vr for the first time today :x

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Just because you are tasteful doesn’t mean everyone else who uses your avatar will be

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:08 AM

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I simply think that the avatar copying needs a redo

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The way that it is now is not optimal

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Should be on a case by case basis, like a notification appears like a friend request and you have to click yes

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 AM

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I think the new public avatars, cloning, included, is fine, we just need additional options besides public/private. But public really should mean public, cloning included.

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Agreed

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I want to have a private world with public avatars that only my friends can use

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 2:13 AM

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From a technical standpoint I understand why they have the two options. Private is easy. Uploader only check. Public with cloning is also easy, you don’t need any security at all, very hands-off. But anything in between like friends only / pedestals only / world only, is going to require some extra security work for people not to be able to break, and that makes them liable for protecting content use.

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But a peristalsis-only setting, forcing cloning off regardless of user selection, aka old public, is needed

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I don’t think it should be tied to friends, personally

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 2:18 AM

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The issue isn't the memes, it's the malicious aspects: music set overly loud (some avatars bypass limits set by the sdk), screen shakes are almost never acceptable

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That stuff probably shouldn't be allowed on private avatars either, but I think they are holding off on enforcing rules on private avatars, for good reason (same reason people don't look at my private data) - no reason to assume public avatars have privacy

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You are free to make memes if they use reasonable volume levels and acceptable screen effects: if you really think a screen space effect is "tasteful" put a reasonable distance limit on it and make it obviously centered on your avatar or particle so people can walk or turn away if they don't like it

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I think they don’t really care what goes on in private instances between people who are ok with whatever is happening, so they don’t want to make rules that would curb what you can do on your own computer. They just want public to be safe and not get on the news as someone dying in vr on their platform or something.

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Also: personal space should block ALL screen shaders.

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Just saying

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Give people options to protect themselves, then others can go crazy without worry

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That’s how I’d do it anyway just spit balling

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 2:42 AM

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@umbral oracle that's what the safety setting is for

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:42 AM

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dont need a modded sdk to make loud music, but why i dont keep avatar and sound effects at 100%

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Use custom to only show friends fully and individually "show" avatars of others as you want. It's what I do. I keep avatars on others but not shaders, animations, particles and such

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:44 AM

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i keep them at 50% or lower so my headset speakers dont blow out

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:44 AM

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So wait can you get banned by setting a rule breaking avatar as public now?

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 2:45 AM

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Rule breaking? As in?

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I'm pretty sure if it violates tos you could always get banned

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That's not new

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:46 AM

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From jawbones ""You have been banned from public world instances until Dec 29, 2018 01:13. Reason: Repeatedly setting malicious avatars to public (very loud, fullscreen shaders, etc)""

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:46 AM

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crash avatars, earrape at 1% volume, malicious shaders, other TOS breaking avatars

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:48 AM

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So I have an avatar that has a really short chromatic abberation and bass boost sound, but you can only see and hear it around me, that's fine right?

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 2:48 AM

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I believe so as long as you comply with audio limits set by the sdk

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:48 AM

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even though people can use animations

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🤷

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 2:49 AM

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There are no official word I know of on malicious shaders but I think a distance or size limit on weird effects imho. Some shaders are intended to make you nauseous foe xample

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Also I can't believe how easy it is to make really weird shaders

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 AM

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Thoughts on people playing music through their mics?

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:50 AM

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can be okay depending on the situation

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can also be annoying, in which case mic mute them

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:51 AM

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Like I once had an avatar that I deleted because the shader I put on it inverted the color depending on the eye, which caused general discomfort for any VR users

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The shader was super easy to make

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And to any desktop users it looked fine

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:53 AM

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thing is, the avatrs got set back to private.
atleast fucking give me word about which avatar and what on it is not okay.
maybe i can share SOME avatars, so people can enjoy them?
but no, lets just make this flawed system a thing without letting the community test it, and ban people without actually giving them a notice before.
refine ur system before you actually shit it out.

distant charm Dec 26, 2018, 2:54 AM

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I'd advise against having avatars with loud noises/ malicious shaders in general. If they're public they can be reported by a user and be forcibly set to private.

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Alright cool stuff

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 2:54 AM

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merry christmas

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Merry Christmas

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Some of my avatars have bass boosted stuff but nothing you can't walk away from

distant charm Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I dunno the details of that though, try emailing moderation@vrchat.com

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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If your avatar can be annoying, subjectivity, i would avoid making out pubic

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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literally, every avatar can be annoying

placid umbra Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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🤔

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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i don't know what the huge fuss is about, there's hide avatar features, theres muting (if you mic spam) and there is blocking

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:55 AM

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fucking furrys always with their uwu shit Ima report them

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see? Anything can be annoying

placid umbra Dec 26, 2018, 2:56 AM

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If you have an issue, email moderation@vrchat.com. This isn't the place to argue stuff like that.

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:56 AM

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@sudden nacelle it's really hard to hide avatar features while the world is spinning around you

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 2:56 AM

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agreed

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:56 AM

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plus there is some shaders that still hide the menu

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 AM

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I mean I suppose there is panic mode, as long as you know how to trigger it

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 AM

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tru

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but its hard to wild guess and block the wrong person

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:57 AM

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aev, i am freaking begging you to implement a system, where you can share avatrs with friends. not asking to get unbanned, i mean, shit happens.
but i really wanna share my stuff with friends, that i do care about that enjoy the stuff.

@torn nebula you make it sound like i would use shaders that overrender the menu, which i would never do. if you legit cant see theres the safety mode.

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:58 AM

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no, I mean in general. I don't know what you got banned for specifically.

distant charm Dec 26, 2018, 2:58 AM

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@finite kraken Please ask in #avatars-2-general

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:58 AM

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but I've seen shaders that (intentionally) spin the world in both eyes, or (probably unintentionally) squash both eyes into the left eye

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and that's super disorienting in VR

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 2:58 AM

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dont forget the targeted zoom in

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Can we outlaw grab pass shaders?

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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can we not

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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what are grab pass shaders

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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"no fun allowed"

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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things that can take in the current screen as a texture

tall laurel Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Is anyone else having an issue where a world will load all the way but then not give you the Go button

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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Many edgy screen space shaders use it

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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oh

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 2:59 AM

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I've also seen more tasteful stuff that just changes colors a little bit. That's not so bad in my opinion.

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 AM

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So far, I've only messed with render queues and such

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A friend made a mosaik shader... So I made an anti-mosaik shader

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 AM

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could be annoying if you're not in the mood for that but I wouldn't call that stuff malicious

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 AM

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It's how they make your screen shake or rainbow or zoom

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 AM

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@tall laurel happens to me on occassion, sometimes its just wait a long time

tall laurel Dec 26, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Its just been with three different worlds now in the last ten minutes, I wonder if something is wrong

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Never had my screen zoom, and my shader treshold setting is quite low

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 AM

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@limber anvil i have the zoom in shader, but adding color to it is quite annoying for vr users, so i dont use it anymore

tall laurel Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 AM

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Wont even let me go home

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 AM

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plus distance is really short

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:01 AM

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personally, i dont mind the zoom in shader that much. There was this penguin that was doing it every now and then but it was only, like, twice, and there was comedic timing on it

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:02 AM

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Why have them to begin with?

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:02 AM

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e

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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zoom does come in handy for comedic type animations

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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I never made or used an asset which could annoy anyone

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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particle spam usually is funny

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Do you guys know how to make shaders?

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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nope

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:03 AM

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It's really helpful to know

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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literally everything can be used for bad or good things. it's just how you take/make it

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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And not because I hold back, but because I don't see the point in it.
You might find that zoom video funny, but chances are you will just annoy people in game

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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but if the bad heavily outweigh the good there is a problem

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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@tacit plank why friends+ is a thing

tidal aspen Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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zoom is as funny as screen shake, it's funny the first time until people spread the prefab and everyone and their mom starts to do it

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:04 AM

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i dont use them in public

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Well, my avatars can't do anything bad.
I can't really make shaders. I can edit shaders and mess with things like renderqueues and stencils, but those things are 1 or 2 lines of code

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:05 AM

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@tacit plank try shaderforge it's a lot easier than coding if your making a complex shader

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:05 AM

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i usually insta deactivatethe avatars for those that use the 😅 emoji avatar

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you know the one with all the shaders

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I've seen screen shake shaders 2 times this week. Both times I was crashed shortly after seeing the effect

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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I remember seeing a neat avatar in fantasy shu-kai-jou the other day that had a shader that overwrote the entire screen.... but only as seen by world cameras, not for player vision

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:06 AM

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sadly hadn't had the time to really get into it.
usually just change som small things up, like max values, render queues and such.
i might get into it the next few weeks, since i have time off of work and i usually use it to make shit for vrchat since the last few months. could definetly come in handy

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 AM

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wait so @torn nebula you mean, like, noone in vr is effected, but if they looked at a camera the effect would show on that screen?

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 AM

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@limber anvil the map in question has two rooms, and each room has a camera showing the other room. the avatar overwrote those cameras

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and only those cameras

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 AM

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ok that's actually neat

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 AM

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@torn nebula i know who made it, i have access to it, and i know the intention it was made for.

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:07 AM

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i can imagine some maps that utilize that

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like a hide and seek game where you can only see someone if theyre in the frame of a camera

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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90% of times when I meet people with annoying shaders or effects, they didn't make it themselves. If you're going to fuck my screen, you should at least be original

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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It's not that hard

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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like the 😅 avatar

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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My chromatic abberation shader was made myself

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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@tacit plank it's not hard. and it probably uses the same technique anyways. it's what you make out of it

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:08 AM

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It's hard to find any documentation on shaders

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:09 AM

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No it isn't

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:09 AM

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i really wouldnt mind that avatar that much if it didnt have the screen freeze/shaky zoom in

true sky Dec 26, 2018, 3:09 AM

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😂 avatars are quite hilarious ngl

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:09 AM

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@tacit plank google "unity shaders" and all kinds of stuff comes up

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:09 AM

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like, remove that one thing and we can place it under "harmless cringy avatars"

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instead its currently in "cancer avatars"

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:10 AM

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It's all shit. Either the shaders need a script to function, or they just give you a bunch of code without explaining how or why it works

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:10 AM

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No

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:10 AM

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https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/ShadersOverview.html

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:11 AM

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@tacit plank scripts are for the interface.
why would they explain the code in the file they publicly give out.
if it were something that is amde for tutorials, it has the explaination it in, yes.
you think GTA5 (for instance) has fucking comments on everything everywhere, and why it makes it work?

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:12 AM

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the difference being is making shaders is a development thing

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:12 AM

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I was told to google "unity shaders", which gives code, not learning material. The code makes no sense on it's own, which is the problem with shaders

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:13 AM

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"where my free shader megatutorial at????? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

limber anvil Dec 26, 2018, 3:13 AM

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that's like saying "I would like to know what ingredients work in this cake" vs "Why should i know the exact steps to making this cake im eating"

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that is the metaphor you gave

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:13 AM

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I was told making shaders was easy, so I said that finding material was hard, to which somebody disagreed

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:14 AM

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finding materials

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Typo. Material, as in learning material

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:15 AM

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@wintry crag there's plenty of reference material out there, and plenty of less-reference tutorial material e.g. https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/graphics/gentle-introduction-shaders

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but to some extent you'll want to know how to code a more normal programming language first

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because shaders are just really weird sorts of programs

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:15 AM

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if you can't be bothered to read go to a youtube video.
if you cant be bothered to spend time on it, don't even start.

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Applying a color, or stitching together boxes in one of those shader UI programs is easy

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But tell me I can read this page, and then sit down and make a spinning cube with a geometry shader

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:16 AM

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oh my god

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:17 AM

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@tacit plank you're gonna want to read up on vertex shaders then

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I can already program, but programming languages have good variable names

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:17 AM

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"gentle introduction"
when can i recreate fricking poiyomi shader???

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better be soon 😠

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:18 AM

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You know what types you're dealing with in programming

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I don't mind spending some time learning, I just want to be able to

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:18 AM

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hey, so i just had the gentle introduction into HTML
i will now commence on programming my own facebook

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:19 AM

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I learned HTML in 4 hours when I was 14

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:20 AM

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whatWait

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:21 AM

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It's simple, and actually makes sense

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:21 AM

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no it doesn't

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:21 AM

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For shaders, you have to guess what the hell Unity is doing, and what all the macros mean

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 3:21 AM

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same goes for HTML or any other programming language? waitwhat

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:22 AM

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No, you just write what you want to do, and it will autocomplete a function which does it like 50% of the time

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Caffeine, lots of things are decently documented but there are some things not that people copy from others or just have to know. Xiexe has a tutorial properly lit wireframe shader on his github. Lots of good examples around for learning. If there is a specific question you have about something, go ahead and ask here: some people in vrchat community are surprisingly knowledgeable

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:27 AM

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Cool, I will have to check that out! I don't have any specific questions, but doing some seemingly simple things can be really hard, and when I google it I just end up on some 4 year old forum thread with no replies. For programming, you have stackoverflow, there's pretty much always an answer ready

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Ya no real equivalent I have found yet for unity shader writing. Some of the interesting questions actually bring me to vrchat related posts, so this might be one of the best places to find help, at least among public communities

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:32 AM

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@tacit plank Shader forge

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Also I just watched a tutorial on how to make a unity shader online and figured everything else from there

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:33 AM

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That's just connecting boxes though. It can do a lot of cool things, but you don't really have control of it compared to if you code it yourself

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I remember trying to use it to make an outline shader. But I wanted only the outline of my avatar to display, with the rest being transparent. Couldn't do it

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:36 AM

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That's easy

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Put a 1 into the opacity clip

umbral oracle Dec 26, 2018, 3:36 AM

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You can still start in amplify shader forge as a first draft and keep track of places to special case when you edit the code

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:37 AM

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I could outline everything, kind of like wireframe, but I couldn't make it show only a 2D outline. The inside wouldn't go transparent

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Just got vd chat any tips?

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VR*

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:37 AM

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don't get crashed

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Make friends

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I should try that I suppose. Thanks!

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:38 AM

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play the game

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I have one friend on it ;~;

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Make more

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:38 AM

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Ok

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Go to the pug or the box or the presentation room and talk to people

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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People with lots of shaders and guns are usually a bad sign

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Yeah avoid those people

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I did go to the presentation room

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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You'll want to disable "Personal space" in settings so that you can get headpats

torn nebula Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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very important

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:39 AM

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I don’t actually have a VRV headset

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VR*

polar bone Dec 26, 2018, 3:40 AM

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That's fine

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Still turn it off

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Ok

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I got the basics down

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Also tomorrow can I friend u guys?

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:40 AM

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With it on, people will fade when they get close to you. It's also important to be cute. And most people with a strange but womanly voice are men with voice changers.
Don't use the knuckles avatar. Russian tanks aren't funny either

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I use a lil bird owo

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I want a lizard tho

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I can’t get on my computer cuz my mom will get mad ÒwÓ

tacit plank Dec 26, 2018, 3:42 AM

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That's fine! Some users use modified clients btw, you should avoid them

hollow sluice Dec 26, 2018, 4:12 AM

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I have acquired a vr headset time to yeet

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yaaaas

covert linden Dec 26, 2018, 4:19 AM

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Awesome!

meager shell Dec 26, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Lucky

hollow sluice Dec 26, 2018, 4:37 AM

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It was the last set eb games had so im lucky i snagged it

hollow umbra Dec 26, 2018, 4:37 AM

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Is your computer strong enough to use it

ember raptor Dec 26, 2018, 4:58 AM

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@sudden nacelle I believe in you

stone current Dec 26, 2018, 5:08 AM

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oof avatar poor cuz cloth

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Im trying to do lip sync with skeleton model, but how do I get lower bone jaw?

stone current Dec 26, 2018, 5:08 AM

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if u dont have a jaw then u dont have a jaw

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u might also have shape keys that change mouth shape

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if so u need at least one that opens mouth

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or a full set of visemes

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 5:09 AM

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.

stone current Dec 26, 2018, 5:09 AM

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if there isnt a jaw bone u could also rig it

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but it should be mapped in humanoid if u want jaw flap

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 5:31 AM

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I just crashed myself and im dying on how I even did it.

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all I did was spin around with the clapping animation avatar, and I cant breathe that was amazing

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 5:43 AM

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OmegaPill

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Man.. you can't be serious there, right?

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 5:49 AM

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GrievousDance So yee

shy nest Dec 26, 2018, 5:52 AM

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fatyoshi

halcyon kestrel Dec 26, 2018, 5:54 AM

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portal

vocal shard Dec 26, 2018, 6:40 AM

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vrpill

twilit sluice Dec 26, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Like Zoinks

bold olive Dec 26, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Anyone knows what "error saving blueprint" error while uploading avatar?

tiny horizon Dec 26, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Hi

subtle prawn Dec 26, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Hi

mortal perch Dec 26, 2018, 8:39 AM

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Anyone else not having new favorited avatars added to list?

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:06 AM

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Just checked if i can play VRchat today and still bugged

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Login loop still when going to a private world

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sorry public

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When is the patch out?

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 9:07 AM

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For sure nor during xmas

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Dang. unable to play the past 7 days or so

languid beacon Dec 26, 2018, 9:18 AM

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Favorited avatars won’t be added if one of your favorited avatars have gone private. Unfavorite it

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I think it’s a bug because it does not always happen

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It acts like you favorited but you come back later and it’s reverted

maiden pilot Dec 26, 2018, 9:56 AM

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I can't play either 😑

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 10:58 AM

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no pepe allowed

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 11:00 AM

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👀

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 11:02 AM

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every once in a while i need to go on other servers to get dat Pepe fix Keepo

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:04 AM

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oh hi mari

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oh hi heartlexx

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:08 AM

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YokoStress

tiny ginkgo Dec 26, 2018, 11:10 AM

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Oh hi Mark

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:11 AM

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<.<

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@queen mango can i slap nass

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:11 AM

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NekoLewd

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Umm.. sure... NekoLewd

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:11 AM

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-lightly slaps nass-

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Hi doggy

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But hello Swamp xD

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:12 AM

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mari i drew a christmas card, want it as a late merry christmas saying xD

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 11:17 AM

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I saw it though :D

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:18 AM

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oh ok

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why you lurking

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talk to me more

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 11:31 AM

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Can't helpt it I am a lurker xD

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Im a lurker now that game is not working

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😦

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:32 AM

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but mari love me

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:33 AM

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Just been spending my time making a world

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Stargate Avatar world

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:33 AM

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<.<

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:33 AM

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Jaffa, Humans, Azguard and more

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Next is Star Trek and then a Universal world with avatars from other Scifi shows

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 11:34 AM

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We do need more Stargate stuff overall

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One of the first things I did in VRChat was trying to set up a Stargate world, never did get very far with it as I was pretty inexperienced at the time.

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:34 AM

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the hell is stargate

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Its SG1 gate room and half the base and part 2 world is Mothership

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1 Avatar is only for me

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Thor

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Can summon an azguard mothership in the sky 1:1 scale with clouds

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Star Trek one is Deep Space nine with Quarks and the stores

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Side project is a NeoTokyo 80/90s style bar

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Will make some avatars colours glow and be tron like

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:39 AM

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NeoTokyo?

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Like this https://pre00.deviantart.net/e758/th/pre/f/2015/014/0/2/passage___neo_tokyo_vi_by_markusvogt-d8dv676.jpg

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 11:40 AM

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@placid zealot

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:41 AM

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being Autistic and OCD i want to have even the smallest detail

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:41 AM

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Such scenery.. Pixelewd

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:42 AM

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I am using old school styles i learnt since original doom engine and Quake 1

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Sprites with filters to give 3D HD look

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:42 AM

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Mhm.

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:43 AM

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Been playing with C++ and engines since Wolf 3d

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So Basic coding

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I follow John Carmacks style of coding.

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AKA Doom, Quake, Wolf

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 11:45 AM

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ellie_thumbsup

weak lantern Dec 26, 2018, 11:47 AM

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I am Doing video Optimizations like crazy the past 2 months

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Start room has buttons for how good the PC is for world features

vast tulip Dec 26, 2018, 11:57 AM

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Hmm?

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:01 PM

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oh hi mimi

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been a while

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:02 PM

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Best way for fbt ? i was planing on straping the trackers to my feets with rubber bands x)

hardy basin Dec 26, 2018, 12:02 PM

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is there an issue with the favourite world category? it doesn't appear in the world's tab. personal worlds don't appear too

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:02 PM

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i hear to strap the trackers to your ankles and waist

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i used zip ties to do it to the shoes

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Ankles? nah, the lower the better

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what u strap em to actual shoes? hm

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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@hardy basin favorites and stuff are broken

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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I'd recommend something a bit more rigid then rubber bands, but it might work as a temporary solution

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Use glue

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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i just did it to shoes with zip ties lol

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 12:03 PM

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I got "trackstraps" myself, but some friends of mine have had luck with tying them to shoes with the shoelaces, or literally sowing together some custom straps.

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:04 PM

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hm

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coz no way im buying those 20$ straps -.- what a steal

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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You might want to try the shoelace solution if you have some extra shoes around in that case.

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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i do

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Hip you might have to get a bit creative with though

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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make your own straps? it might be easy, just gotta find the right screw

velvet quarry Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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Any camera mounting screw should work.

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:05 PM

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i ziptied the tracker to a belt for hip

hardy basin Dec 26, 2018, 12:06 PM

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@umbral reef oh okay thank you!

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:07 PM

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yeah hip im planing on just mounting a screw on a belt i dont use c:

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 PM

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I put the trackers under the shoelaces of some old sneakers. Works fine 👌

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 PM

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mari love meeee

placid zealot Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 PM

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AwOo

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:12 PM

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:3

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:15 PM

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dunno why i never tought about that

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i have so many shoes lol

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totally doing it

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:16 PM

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do it on shoes you can just slip on

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:17 PM

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yep yep

safe marsh Dec 26, 2018, 12:32 PM

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Btw,regarding avatar creation does the cat's blender plugin does everything one needs to have a full body ready avatar or

umbral reef Dec 26, 2018, 12:33 PM

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Pretty much yea

mighty galleon Dec 26, 2018, 12:35 PM

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oclac

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Lmao epic

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Devs make avatar cloning feature
Avatar cloning can't be turned off on the avatar
Cloned avatars will be met with the same repercussions as public world avatars
Friend gets BANNED for having his private avatar cloned

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 12:57 PM

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:0 how'd he get his private avatar cloned nani

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 12:57 PM

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It was set to public before the update

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https://canny.io/images/856dd18a97fd29dba649d875c8ddb535.png

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This is the message he gets now lol

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Not even a crasher or anything, just "obnoxious"

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 12:58 PM

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honestly its deeper than that

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 12:58 PM

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He got the rules changed from under him and now they're banning him for it, epic dev team as always

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He's the owner of that yellow "emoji" avatar you may have seen around

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Brb setting all of my old avatars to private

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 12:59 PM

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They need to set more options for avatar cloning

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 12:59 PM

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They should have done so in the first place

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A separate option to allow cloning, off by default

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:00 PM

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honestly not just that, they need to get the avatar restrictions a redo

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if it wasnt for the avatar restrictions, most of the avatar creators (and i mean the good ones) would still be here making avatars till now

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:01 PM

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What restrictions? The public world ones?

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:01 PM

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@sonic verge the public world restrictions are fine though

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I think colliders are still counted wrongly but I'm guessing they'll never change that :/

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:02 PM

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colliders, dynamics, meshes etc i think

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:02 PM

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You can have three skinned meshes. All it takes is to just join the meshes, it's not hard

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50 dynamic bones is plenty

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You can make short skirts work with three bones

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:03 PM

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all my avas usually take from 30-40 dyns

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and that still go very poor sometimes like wot

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Yeah I’d say the rules with public worlds are mostly fine

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Oh, you mean the rank system lol

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Yeah, the rank system is bullshit anyway

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:03 PM

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No one takes it seriously cuz of it being fucked thankfully

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:04 PM

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No distinction made between my instanced mesh particles (that are only on sometimes), and someone with 1000 dynamic bone transforms and 20 colliders

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I'm put in the same boat as people with a hundred meshes lol

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:05 PM

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i havent even touched unity or blender since this update, cause im pretty sure il just be crammed for having orang to reds on rank

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Literally everyone is marked as poor, therefore nobody cares

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All it did was make nameplates laggier

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:05 PM

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i can literally see that even without going to places

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:05 PM

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idunno, my friends have mostly been doing their part to optimize their stuff

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and so have worlds

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:06 PM

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So, i just read through the community guidelines.

I have not violated them (in my eyes, reading as of like 5 minutes ago)
nowhere does it say anything i did was wrong.
i just send the support team a dispute for my ban.

Let's see where this leads, and if i get a really weird answer to it.

#freejawbones2018

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:06 PM

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they still need to fix the rank weighting, but still

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:06 PM

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#freejawbonesemojiavatar

slow lance Dec 26, 2018, 1:06 PM

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I think I win today on breaking Unity:

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transform.position assign attempt for 'SceneCamera' is not valid. Input position is { NaN, NaN, NaN }. UnityEngine.GUIUtility:ProcessEvent(Int32, IntPtr)

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 PM

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I’ve been optimising my stuff too, but having over 8 rigid bodies still puts me down to very poor

slow lance Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 PM

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(Also just broke Discord trying to copy paste...)

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 PM

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lmao

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Didn't you say you got banned for an annoying avatar?

sonic verge Dec 26, 2018, 1:08 PM

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i wont say it annoying tho

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i would say its annoying to "normies"

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:09 PM

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I mean it was annoying enough to get reported lmao

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and it was reported enough to actually get noticed

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but yeah, i haven't seen it so i cant really judge tbh

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:09 PM

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I get knocked to medium for having one (1) worldspace particle attached to my hand. They broke IK Follower so they're not leaving me a choice.

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I've seen his avatar and I can see that people would find it annoying. However, Jawbones has not been abusing it

queen mango Dec 26, 2018, 1:10 PM

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cirnoDoubt

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:10 PM

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The same cannot be said for all the asshats who cloned his avatar and proceeded to spam it 24/7

near saffron Dec 26, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Almost any avatar could be used annoyingly if it has some sounds or particles

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 PM

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The ban is bullshit lmao, they changed the rules and then retroactively banned him for it

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 PM

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I am the creator of the emoji ybot, whis people really enjoyed.
i had it set to public, to share it with close firends, as i put a pedestal into my private homeworld, so people could favourite it, also to have fun for it.

the new update enables avatar cloning on EVERY avatar set to public, not even just avatars in approved public avatar worlds.

I myself see this system as flawed, since you cant just share avatars with friends.

either test the feature before just releasing it after a 1 or 2 day notice, or actually think it through before.

i know MANY avatars, that are set to public, that are way worse. like WAY WAY worse. Public avatars with crasers on them, global earrape audio. overrendering of the menu etc.

i just wanted orther people to have fun too, which definetly was the case.

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:11 PM

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They "tested" it in their closed beta and that made them overconfident

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Of course, only a specific type of person will get admitted to such a closed beta, and that's the type of person who sucks up to the devs

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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as far as i recall it, wasn't it the beta that was like 2 days until it went live?

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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So basically the devs ensure that they get zero feedback

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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the closed beta went on for weeks apparently while open was just a few hours

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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They had a closed beta several times before. The open beta was live for 9 hours. @sudden nacelle

sudden nacelle Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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even worse, holy fuck

median basalt Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Tupper was visibly panicking at all the issues that popped up because Ron wanted to push it through immediately

rigid crescent Dec 26, 2018, 1:12 PM

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and honestly, most of the things they knew were wrong were things they already knew

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so the open beta most likely didn't reveal any new issues