Yeah. no exactly.
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
stone current
soon ppl will start makin vr games tho
vocal shard
well yeah i have more then one vr headset
and well IDK if i were suddenly wanting to do playstation
stone current
isnt rift specs better
vocal shard
well yeah your right. but the psvr controllers are interesting
vocal shard
because its like, i dont know a controller within a vr controller?
indigo yacht
rift and vive specs are pretty much same atm
vocal shard
Unless if there is something better then those 2 that maybe like a third party thing
stone current
PlayStation VR features a 5.7-inch, 1920 x 1080, OLED display split vertically to deliver a resolution of 960 x 1080 to each eye. Oculus Rift's resolution is 2160 x 1200, over two OLED displays, so that's slightly more pixels per eye, which can really make a difference. It also has RGB subpixels, which help smooth out the image.
vocal shard
but even with third party stuff there would be bootlegs sometimes. (i hate bootlegs
unless if they are like the good kind.
stone current
i wanna get vive when knuckles finally comes out if its not being ran over
ive also wanted to get one of those pressure glove controllers
vocal shard
oh speaking of knuckles. did you know theres a abomination now called the sonic movie?
stone current
the ones that can react to object shapes by applying forces and detect how hard ur gripping something
vocal shard
Yeah that probably would fail knowing the mario bros movie but even then i pretend that doesnt exist..
maybe when the fnaf movie comes out it might probably be a pretty good one. and at least for the first time ever a actually really good video game movie
stone current
fnaf already died
vocal shard
^ well though the fanbase is still going, and games are still being made. but yeah your kinda right on that one
stone current
like ever since fnaf world it just kinda been fading away
vocal shard
but scott keeps saying is still a work in progress because he wants to take it in the right direction
well fnaf world even though i liked its cutsey artstyle and gameplay
but I would see why alot of people would complain.
stone current
ik theres new games but i havent actualy heard much about it like the others
sullen escarp
the right direction being money
vocal shard
its not like a continuation of a story. or it makes it confusing
stone current
didnt scott cawthon also make shitty movies
vocal shard
sure theres like sister location references in fnaf world but u know --
I dont think so.? i know he made old games but not movies
you know with the whole "noahs ark" thing he made.
or whatever its called
stone current
he even was a part of that stupid globglogabgalab movie
vocal shard
Wait he was? oof. can we get a oof in the house???
vocal shard
yeah no probably roblox is dead too im guessing
speaking of which . what is up with games coming and going anyway?
stone current
its called time
vocal shard
^ you do know people are still theorizing that soon in the smash ultimate dlc that sans is going to be in it... right?
stone current
like undertale
cosmic oyster
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
vocal shard
i am not saying its not possible but i wouldnt count on it.
stone current
the release of undertale made way more waves than deltarune
vocal shard
well yeah because deltarune isnt even complete yet
stone current
its just that people start not caring
vocal shard
its only the first chapter.
stone current
eventually fortnite dances will die and i will be happy
rigid crescent
Fortnite dances are on awhole different level though lol
vocal shard
but did u know theres THE sans default fortnite dance???
stone current
yea itll take a long while
vocal shard
yeah people are just trying to bring back something dead and try to rebake it again
stone current
people overusing them so much its gonna get boring eventually
rigid crescent
Things like Undertale or MLP were just a thing the internet obsessed over,but this has been absorbed by an entire generation and become a sort of "symbol"
vocal shard
well i usually dont look at the fanbase I just like the games because theyre good
stone current
ya but now theyre all just subcultures
vocal shard
sure it may bring funny or old memes.
vocal shard
no I 100 percent agree with u
which is why im glad when a new horror game comes out (no we are NOT talking about a machine for pigs. that game kinda bombed after the first amnesia!)
stone current
a lot of the popular horror games are either well made or just really bad
really bad: friday the 13th game
but funny
vocal shard
amnesia the dark descent was really good game for what it was back then. people still do talk about it , maybe not as much but people say its like "one of the games that will spook you the most."
stone current
yea amnesia had its own time too
vocal shard
same thing for slender
stone current
it used to be what every utuber was playing bc of all the custom mods
vocal shard
you mean Custom Storys.
stone current
for a long while until people stopped making content (on both sides) and it died
stone current
it was funny while it lasted tho
the animations were bad but they were funny 2 watch
vocal shard
Yeah until stuff came up and pewds doesnt do game things anymore and does, well, something else.
stone current
yea now its all 'sub to me' 't series' and 'tik tok'
vocal shard
eventually every good youtuber might lose its touch or its flavor.
stone current
his lets plays were pretty funny
vocal shard
Especially after the whole "hit or miss" thing
stone current
jacksepticeye is still kinda on it tho
vocal shard
and yeah they may still bring me a chuckle every now and then but it just doesnt feel the same anymore.
stone current
but ken is doing meme couch and all this other stuff too and the knife hands
vocal shard
Remember when markiplier did drunk minecraft???
stone current
yea lol
vocal shard
oh my god back then that was super funny.
stone current
mark and jack are the tru legends
vocal shard
I would sometimes go back to watch and rewatch all the seasons
stone current
i just hope they keep doing what they doing
vocal shard
and sure there might be inappropriate jokes in there but hey. at least its what the fans wanted. humor
yeah exactly.
I am just hoping ultimate custom night would be the last-last game (except for the console ports but people are speculating saying that "scott said in a post another ones being made."
stone current
remember when matthias was a product reviewer
vocal shard
Yeah.
stone current
and then started doing like a hundred other things and made dozens of other channels
like the hell
vocal shard
and then like skydoesminecraft was a whole another channel I loved to death. close to my heart
but that was until he left minecraft, and he did came back but it just doesnt feel like hes still the same sky
stone current
yay my shader edits finally lookin neet
vocal shard
he is the reason I have a prop golden pickaxe (not foam but something else i think, got it from target.)
stone current
skydoeseverything
vocal shard
Lol.
stone current
xd
vocal shard
had to edit it just incase?
stone current
i been trying to like perfect these shadow maps
yee
cuz i wanted the perfect combination of a toon shader and the standard shader
vocal shard
yeah because there are some servers that have strict rules
(not saying this server isnt laid back it totally is. though there might be some people that try to get on your case still if a situation comes up
stone current
the shadow of a toon shader and the shading of the standard shader
so it looks like an anime character but also like a 3d one not a 2d one
vocal shard
because some people try to make it look like your in the wrong and try to give you a hard time till you admit defeat
starting stuff. u know
?? wydm
stone current
so basically
vocal shard
Are you saying kinda like how toon link is in wind waker?
stone current
this is standard shader https://i.gyazo.com/0751809dbdead16199e0d89bed490f43.png
too 3d
vocal shard
someone please tell me they know exactly what im talking about
vocal shard
Ah I see
vocal shard
Ohh no nevermind okay i see what r saying
so the front of it, though it may look like a anime character may appear 2d but at the same time a little more 3d
but not too 3d.
stone current
no
vocal shard
lol looks like it is. because its blue and has a hood
stone current
the roughness shader is really cool
stone current
vocal shard
Did u know I have a actual miku body pillow
đ :3 I only use it for cuddling purposes
stone current
n0
south viper
đ
stone current
transfer weights is a godsend
raven silo
đ
vocal shard
What? Lol
vocal shard
Why you say no though lol
stone current
so if u have weight painting issues like clothing clipping through skin
u can use transfer weights and it wont ever clip
vocal shard
noice. Something happened?
vocal shard
Oh
stone current
Did u know-
vocal shard
Hey vsauce here XD
stone current
u know i would use oculus store vrchat
but rip push to talk and rip kinect2vr and rip playspace mover
vocal shard
Lol I actually have seen a Michael Vsauce avatar in vrchat
stone current
ive seen a danny devito avatar
vocal shard
Though it does look cool I didnât ask where they got it because im no vsauce fan sorry
stone current
vocal shard
And yes I have encountered at one point a few pepe avatars and I was a little triggered for some reason
He just ugly
stone current
ima go play vrcat
vocal shard
Aight
stone current
vocal shard
Well I will be stuck doing this project for a friend.. -.-
Again before anyone asks.. yeah what a âperfectâ life i live.. :/
stone current
like everyone elses
vocal shard
^ it was sarcasm but im glad u understood it
vocal shard
If my friend does get a vr headset and a desktop and complains to me her game is bugged i may just lose my mind
stone current
yeeeee my shader looks good af 
ok now bai 4 real
vocal shard
Well if I was not diagnosed diabetic last year and if i was passed out drunk tomorrow you probably know why
I will see all of you tomorrow
I am just very tired and nauseous
But i did promise my friend I would do 2 avatars a day before the 25th so all 9 of her models would be done.. and im just about to start. I have to update my SDK first
Because I already have 4 done I have 5 more to go
rigid crescent
shouldnt she make sure she can use VR lol
vocal shard
Yes I might just tell her that next time sheâs available
she kinda sleeps a little earlier then one of my other closest friend does
And while they cant stay up on the week days I already graduated while having a job that mainly requires me to take care of my grandparents. I stay up doing this for her
I still do my job but I would often find nausea in the morning
And which may not be good to my health sometimes so I often take breaks sometimes
When I can
stoic halo
what is with some of these fucking worlds giving me 4 fucking screens.
vocal shard
But my mood would always change to like.âhow can my life be worse.â
Because again nausea.
And for each model is a simple animation of the model holding a microphone. Not so hard right?
vocal shard
Problem is since I already did that animation once i had those numbers of the finger bone animation I copied all of them and for each model when i reput in that same animation file it tells me itâs missing a animator armature so I have to one by one add EACH finger bone for that one hand and paste all the numbers in one by one which is exhausting
rigid crescent
just use the same override sheet
vocal shard
Because apparently unity havenât bothered making a way I can select all of them at once.
rigid crescent
or get muscle animator editor
vocal shard
I might
But again same override sheet? If u mean the controller uhh
U do know for that to work there has to be a clone that has that animation on I think
Unless if your talking about something else
south viper
the clone is solely a workaround for unity sometimes screwing the model up when an animation controller is automatically created for it
someone should test whether that workaround is still needed in 2017
there were other ways to avoid it without cloning the model too
vocal shard
I mean I would test it but I already had too much progress almost half way done for my âfriend.â To use
Unless if someone actually does bother to try and test it
Itâs been a while how do i get the SDK again
Hey by the way you know the âavatar thievesâ method people talked about a few months ago?
Has that been fixed yet
I remember when a friend complained about that too me and I was confused
So did my younger cousin...
weary bison
it's been fixed a few times, there's never gonna be a way to stop it completely though
weary bison
I don't know if there's an "easy" method right now
if you see it happening, be sure to report it
weary bison
OC
vocal shard
What is your smash ultimate main
weary bison
vocal shard
I donât have it but my main would probably have to be the new zelda.oh and sorry
I ramble on sometimes
oh uhm noe quick question
I remember yesterday someone mentioned broken worlds
weary bison
mhm
vocal shard
Would they have to fix it? Update it or would there be a fix for that
weary bison
most issues with older worlds are fixed by reuploading with Unity 2017.4.15f1
vocal shard
ah okay just making sure but what issues still occur
Just incase if i do join a broken world
vocal shard
Like textures missing?
weary bison
yes
vocal shard
blinking animations broken?
ah so like the purple and black checkered things?
I had seen that happen in other games besides vrchat
weary bison
mm, that's more of a source engine thing
vocal shard
If that would happen and a world does be missing textures would I have to contact the creator?
weary bison
in unity they'll appear as like a solid color or just bright purple
yep, tell the creator to reup
vocal shard
what if I only know their vrchat name and i type it in and it doesnât show up
On discord
weary bison
yeah there's no surefire way to get through to them
you could try adding them ingame
weary bison
if it's a severe issue you can report the world
vocal shard
So like if its a arcade world and I thought a guy mentioned hud or overlay not working in that world and thats still having problems do I just report it then?
I never make worlds so I wouldnât know
weary bison
for something like that, just try to contact them
vocal shard
Okay thank u so much
weary bison
if it causes significant frame drops or it makes you blind or something, report it
vocal shard
Ah okay of course
Aight well im going to finish up my work then go to bed. I will see all of you later
vast tulip
Noe is a cute kitty
weary bison
đ
vocal shard
Very.
languid beacon
Please either 1.) Remove desktop crouch 2.) Make a nag on screen telling people they look stupid RN or 3.) make desktop crouch not look super dumb
sullen escarp
you don't like being a hunchback when you crouch?
vocal shard
By the way before I go I wanted to say I created my own ddlc ringtone by using a marimba ddlc cover and the iPhone ringtone and made it in audacity and put it in my phone. Donât worry I havenât uploaded it to the itunes store. Itâs only for personal use
vast tulip
desktop crouch is adorable! I just wish the hands were still up for hugs!
queen mango
I liked the old crouch animation too.
fading osprey
Desktop crouch is great but is probably damaging my robot avatar's spine.
queen mango
Closest thing we ever got as desktop users to a hug.
fading osprey
2018.3.1 was the pinnacle of crouching
vagrant juniper
yeah they focused on that but all desktop users are like "Fix the crouching" tbh it's probably not hard to fix lol
queen mango
Hmm, so from the screenshots Pan sent in another Discord server I'm in, the dev team, admins, and some senior mods met at a box?
sullen escarp
when do they get the prone animation to not be holding an invisible gun tho
queen mango
Not that I could snoop in because I was busy in Blender
vocal shard
well im busy in unity đ
Uhhh why is it in unity, you know there sphere things for the textures?
when your looking at the body in the avatar
around the spheres there is like a white box around it
only happened after i updated the unity and sdk
lilac swan
In the meanwhile you've always been able to override the crouch/prone animation yourself if you don't like them.
indigo yacht
^ that lol
lilac swan
Instead of waiting for the devs to make a one-suits-all animation that pleases everyone
sullen escarp
it'd be nice if some sample ones came with the sdk đ
rigid crescent
huh thats weird. i wonder why they said that.
lilac swan
I can only assume they never ever looked up if it was possible to begin with
rigid crescent
Well the weird part was that they said lying down ones worked for them, but not crouching ones. Must've been something on their side
vocal shard
I heard the same thing that the crouch override was broken
lilac swan
Prone overrides work for sure, crouch overrides should work but they might actually be broken. I personally haven't tried that yet.
rigid crescent
I'll test it now
vocal shard
There was a canny about it
rigid crescent
oh nevermind, not testing it then LOL
vocal shard
I guess it wasn't specifically about it... More along the lines of "fix the crouch! It looks bad! Even overriding it doesn't work anymore!".... So more of a side point
rigid crescent
Oh I already have unity open, lemme just try it anyway
vocal shard
Uhh wth
"you are not using the recommended version of unity version for the vrchat sdk"
YES I AM
umbral oracle
Is it that crouch is being blended with idle?
vocal shard
2017 right?? or is it that its 2017.4.15f1 thats needed for the sdk and my unity is 2017.f.17f1
noe please help me out here, also it said polygons 20000 it must have less then 20k
You need .15f1
Uhm I am PRETTY sure 20k was the max you can have
I am not going to redo that one model..
.no, the unity version
lilac swan
https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.3/docs/latest-release
Known Issues
The SDK will complain about being on the incorrect version. You can safely ignore this.
SDK bug. It checks for less than 20k when it should be less or equal.
19.999 tri is true max limit
vocal shard
are you kidding me and that was the latest?!
For unity, its 2017.4.15f1, so you have the wrong version.
no i thought 20 k was the max alot of people told me it was
Its always been like that
someone please just send me the right version then. i cannot believe this
They say 20k... But its actually 19999
lilac swan
Delete literally one tri
vocal shard
but i always with the other models had 20k
and unity didnt have a problem with it
but now its like i randomly got this error. wth
lilac swan
Then you've most likely used a modded SDK đ
vocal shard
I AM NOT using a modded SDK!! and I havent been
its always been like that for me
noe please help settle this dispute.
... noe? :<
oof
this is going to drive me crazy
lilac swan
...What dispute exactly?
indigo yacht
that is not verry cash from you mikudolly
vocal shard
sigh... If you watched tupper's early video, he even said 19999
its lways been ever since the very beginning 20k was the max
really? are u sure. then explain how with the other 2 models it didnt care it was 20k, when i was using the latest sdk
lilac swan
That is factually wrong. This is not up for debate.
vocal shard
but with this one model i have its like
its not đ
oh great does every single one of my models have to be EXACTLY under 20 k now?
Tupper please if your seeing this. fix that. really. at least make it to where i can do 20k
indigo yacht
simply put yes
vocal shard
I am not going through all of that animation stuff again..
indigo yacht
how are you making tupper to do your models under 20k ?
vocal shard
I am not I am trying to make him make it to where with the sdk i can make it to where if i have exactly 20k i can upload it
I knew updating my sdk was a bad idea..
see? this is what i get
They don't believe us that the 20k limit has actually been 19999 this whole time...
indigo yacht
sorry to dissapoint you but sdk had that limit long time ago
vocal shard
well cant i just mod it to where its 20k again
Its not the new sdk 
or is that against the rules
placid zealot
I seem to remember it's 19999
lilac swan
Modding the SDK is technically against the rules.
indigo yacht
i recomend reading tos and paying attention at vrc loading screens
placid zealot
đ€
stiff tree
This isn't going anywhere
vocal shard
........... welp im sorry i guess i will have to dissapoint my friend saying that the concert has been CANCELLED and that the models will be delayed to a short intermission with a slight "problem"
umbral oracle
@vocal shard it is 19999 not 20000. Just delete a triangle
vocal shard
in unity I CANT
and so i have to go back in blender redo everything again and redo all the aniimation stuff gain with the 19999 model
umbral oracle
Is there an fbx
You can open the fbx in blender and save it again. Unity should update
vocal shard
well yeah but how am i going to replace the fbx but keep the animation the same way without having to redo it?!
indigo yacht
assuming your model is .fbx just throw it into blender decimate 1 tris and export with same name then replace current ''old'' with ''new'' in unity and there
lilac swan
Why would you ever need to redo any animation? Just... apply it to the model with one tri less. It's nearly a carbon copy of your original model.
vocal shard
and plus when i reupload the fbx back in it will make me have to fix the bones thing again with the "fix model" and i am hoping since it was fixed first that it doesnt break anything because i had that happen to me once before
umbral oracle
If you don't change bones it should be ok. Shape keys can be sensitive. A bit of trial and error or split and merge meshes
vocal shard
see this is exactly what im worried about..
umbral oracle
No it won't if the structure doesn't change. It will literally just refresh
vocal shard
whatever happened to the good ol "20k is the max"
this is going to take absolutely forever
indigo yacht
also if youre that worried make back up copy of your project and model and all
lilac swan
We've told you several times.
umbral oracle
It was always one less than that. 1 triangle is tax
alpine cove
If you open up your Assets folder in Unity, there will be <yourmodel>.fbx and <yourmodel>.fbx.meta, replace <yourmodel>.fbx with the new one and it will automatically update in Unity
indigo yacht
better safe than sorry
vocal shard
no it had been 20k đ before. like at oen point
well.. i suppose if you say so..
but if it doesnt do that welp..
lilac swan
I'm done with this
vocal shard
Noe please help me out. wasnt it at one point 20k was the max
Well .. nothing changed about the poly limit since the last sdk... So maybe your old sdk had the limit changed?
umbral oracle
You can talk in #avatars-2-general and we can help you but might be worth taking a break based on your earlier messages you sound stressed about your project. Relax. Breathe.
alpine cove
also, like Zarni said, animations are not locked to a specific model, if you've only changed your tris and no bone structure, you can just apply the animation to the new model
placid zealot
It has always been 19999 People just liked to say 20k to avoid saying 19999 lol
vocal shard
if I can.. my friend has been BUGGING me to do these 9 models for her. and i was half way done!! HALF way
queen mango
Did I miss something?
indigo yacht
you can keep asking noe, tupper, vrpill or anyone from dev team it wont change fact 20k poly is max just delete 1 tri and continue with your work
vocal shard
please make a sdk that makes it 20k again
placid zealot
vocal shard
i am not going through all that work, if the model doesnt update
queen mango
Oh...
umbral oracle
We are arguing over one triangle. Here take this đș
vocal shard
It hasn't changed 
...... I am done, I am leaving, noe , if i leave the server, just please invite me back in
i just had it with these people
placid zealot
When was it 20k
queen mango
But.. why?
indigo yacht
so it's our fault you dont delete 1 tri from your model ?
umbral oracle
Please don't leave. We are here to help you if you get stuck
Keep a backup if you are worried.
vocal shard
.............. oh god dragonknightlily wont stop annoying the absolute crud of out of me. i might just take a vrchat hiatus
placid zealot
People are trying to help you. Don't leave because their advice doesn't match up with your idea.
Just save a backup and delete that tri
vocal shard
maybe a year ago it might had been 20k but i guess time changed huh?
well, fine...
Tuppers tutorial from 2017 said "the polygon limit says 20k, but its actually 19999 so we have to make the model lower than that"
no I was pretty sure it was -- oh my god i rather not contine this argument any longer
oh well...
alpine cove
the issue is just that the check is "count < 20000" instead of "count <= 20000"
and it's always been like that
vocal shard
again wold it be considered against term of service if i just added that one triangle count
queen mango
Hold up.. could anyone update me on what happened here?
vocal shard
because if 20 was the max
alright well fine I suppose I have to go through every model again.
Technically.... But nobody has gotten in trouble for it
placid zealot
Argument is if it's 19999 polys or 20000 in the sdk basically Elire.
indigo yacht
@vocal shard if you have over 19999k unity wont let you simply upload your model what part of that you don't get here
vocal shard
well it was a year ago, i once had a sdk, that was vanilla, not moddded that leteted me have 20
indigo yacht
and not it hasen't been changed it's always been like that
vocal shard
and i get it times may had changed
Why are we even arguing over 1 polygon? XD
it has not đ
I swear I am going to get banned for this..
queen mango
Oof.. How many crashing opportunities can there be over 5000 additional polys?
cold talon
All right buddy what's this?
vocal shard
this discord is full of a bunch of 
alpine cove
what's this
placid zealot
Just delete one triangle and save a backup just in case. Boom done.
cold talon
Time to đ everyone taking part in this argument
vocal shard
but it was 20 ONCE before. but i suppose if i have too. fine i will delete that one polygon
indigo yacht
no point continueing replying for Mikudolly seems like troll or stuborn person who dosen't get when we tell how things are
vocal shard
well try speaking to me from about a year ago and then you will see this chat always been like that
I am not a troll I am speaking the truth it was ONCE 20
you know what i am just going to leave
queen mango
vocal shard
bye
placid zealot
You do you Dolly.
indigo yacht
year ago was year ago we live in 2018 present time are you freaking time traveler or just stuck in 90's or something ?
cold talon
queen mango
Damn...
...as you wish...
vocal shard
I know a yeaer ago was a year ago but now i have to go through every model i had 100 percent completed just to redo this again
alright, fine i will do it
placid zealot
Just leave it guys they'll figure it out themselves. No sense arguing.
vocal shard
:< I swear tomorrow if i wasnt diabetic i would wake up from a hangover and being drunk wishing i was dead tomorrow
hours of slept had been lost trying to do this
queen mango
There are ways... but for the meantime, we may have to stick with this..
Also.. how do I do mesh modelling?
placid zealot
Mesh modeling? Like from the ground up? Custom parts?
rigid crescent
lol i do like how people who didn't modify the sdk were punished LOL
vocal shard
Tupper just a suggestion. if you ever decide to ask us what to be fixed or to be updated, please update the polygon count about 1 more
queen mango
Custom parts, Mari.. like MMD parts, I think..
vocal shard
tbh who doesnt break the sdk
rigid crescent
Oh you mean creating your own things?
vocal shard
anyway im going to go and sob some more while delete about 1 polygon or 1 tri off my models then complain bout how close I was to being done..
I mean seriously
rigid crescent
People who don't wanna break Terms of Service lol
fading osprey
Diabetes is tough to live with. I have family who struggle with it.
vocal shard
and then i will be yelled or nagged at b my friend some more if i had done it or not
queen mango
I dunno... Still a beginner in Blender 'ere
placid zealot
Ah. Well if you want to learn how to model them yourself completely YouTube is your friend! I learned alot just watching tutorials.
rigid crescent
LOL
That's a tupper note right there. "Hey guys, we're raising the polycount next patch."
placid zealot
Also it helps looking at pre made mmd parts or other models and seeing how they are formed. Look at the vertices.
vocal shard
I bet the majority of the playerbase has =broken the sdk
js
they arent doing nothing
nor can they
rigid crescent
They have, and if they ever "needed an excuse" to ban someone they can just use that.
and just say "Breaking Terms of Service" as ban reason and you'd never know what you did lol
vocal shard
well just dont do anything stupid then 
alpine cove
i mean, in complete fairness, the fact that the limit is 19999 and 20000 IS an oversight
vocal shard
and no one will find out
alpine cove
and it just hasn't been fixed lol
all the documentation and error messages say 20k, but in the sdk it's a less than, not less than or equal to
cold talon
They set the poly limit to 20k so everyone bypasses it, then when they want to ban anyone they can just use that as an excuse
rigid crescent
Don't....do anything stupid? You realize they can just check any time they want righ tlol
alpine cove
i wonder how many of the models in the trailer were under 20k polys đ€
vocal shard
but i am being serious a year ago for a vanilla sdk when the game was first out it was 20
I never changed it
cold talon
About 2
vocal shard
I get it times changed but like... I kinda miss those times now
lol cuff me boys
Made my life so much better
Well oof then. I supposed I will just have to live through it
indigo yacht
@vocal shard have you even optimized your avatars so they dont have more than 1-3 meshes etc etc
vocal shard
What do you mean by that?
rigid crescent
they're under 20k so they probably dont have 3 i'd guess
indigo yacht
you never know if people decided to split meshes even under 20k ;D
cold talon
Oof just imagine, 20k poly but 10 skinned meshes
indigo yacht
worst scenario even under 20k poly avatars are not optimized at all
rigid crescent
well yeah optimization has little to do with polys
alpine cove
20k polys... 20k materials.
indigo yacht
tbh cat's blender tool has made optimization so easy so there cannot be excuse used '' i was too lazy to press fix avatar button '' which basicly does most of job already
alpine cove
ez.
vocal shard
Oh god see
When i reimported the fbx back in blender
Right even when i had the bones fixed
Its broken again
indigo yacht
did you back up that before throwing it back to blender ?
vocal shard
And it stayed broken
Idk if I did..
See this is not what i was hoping what i had to do
sigh time to import the pmx and redo the fbx.........
indigo yacht
so you didn't open file explorer and make copy of .fbx neither from whole folder
live and learn is the way pretty much
umbral oracle
You should always save a blend file
stone current
save blends and unity scenes
neat dawn
i cant figure out how to make my avatar danceee
umbral oracle
Which world are you in?
indigo yacht
are you in mmd 0.8 world ?
neat dawn
its mmd dance stage 0.9
indigo yacht
select song
you see circles on the ground
stand on circle and click start and there you go
neat dawn
ok, thanks!
mighty galleon
Rez, I need some rez..urection
twin jacinth
mighty galleon
Oh hi jufo
twin jacinth
Hej
mighty galleon
Hru
twin jacinth
Good, getting my pack from Japan today or tomorrow so i'm pretty hyped, waited 15 days for it now
You?
mighty galleon
Pack?
twin jacinth
Yeah i mailed my Japanese friend some Norwegian stuff and in return he mails me some stuff from Japan
mighty galleon
Oh cool, sounds expensive as hell though
twin jacinth
Oh it was pretty cheap actually 41 euro for all the stuff + shipping for me, i think he paid something similar
quartz basin
Until custom screws you over!
twin jacinth
I hope not
i don't think it does oof
mighty galleon
Oh ok
vocal shard
are you talking about the U.S customs?
mighty galleon
I remember sending something to Canada costed like 70$
vocal shard
Yeah.. because of that my "smg4 tari pin" might take more then 5 weeks to come in like the website said that how long it usually takes
i kinda hate that BTW...
took me like a few months to get my miku body pillow and case..
quartz basin
Yeah, that's really a bummer when you have to wait a bit longer for a pillow.
Really?
twin jacinth
It was delivered at the customs around 19:30 yesterday and was out again today at 06:00 gmt+1
seems like no problems tbh
vocal shard
I suppose because they want to make sure in the pillow cover theres no drugs
because they think in the stitching that they could hide stuff
quartz basin
Did you order it from Mexico?
vocal shard
still curious if someone ripped the VRchat Hub from nov 2017 lol. Would love to see that one return.
no somewhere in japan or whatever
either that or china
indigo yacht
@vocal shard you mean 2017 '' new hub ''
vocal shard
which i dont know why the U.S would be suspicious of that
twin jacinth
Well how does the cover look?
quartz basin
Yeah, I don't think they would suspects japs to hide drugs in their anime pillows.
vocal shard
@indigo yacht yeah before they changed it with green and grey
it looks innocent. not lewd
but very cute
quartz basin
Suuuuure
indigo yacht
it's still there search for old hub
twin jacinth
You can't import ero-hons to Norway because of laws and shit
oh aight then it should be good
vocal shard
hey ! if you want i can send yo the pictures of it.
I did, but its the New hub v1.5
ero what now?
quartz basin
No, thank you. No lewds allowed in my DM's!
dawn pecan
Norway doesn't allow lewd things? What do you mean?
mighty galleon
Lewds are allowed in my Dms miku
twin jacinth
aah it's hentai books basically, ''manga hentai''
oof
yeah Caffeine
vocal shard
DM lewding 101; receive lewds, see lewds, delete lewds, safety
quartz basin
What? Why would they ban that?
mighty galleon
No delete
dawn pecan
What a shit country. I call bullshit though. They can't just ban porn imports
twin jacinth
I guess because of certain books having child looking characters, not 100% sure though
vocal shard
give it hair and it's considered an adult/of age
indigo yacht
tbh i don't think this topic is part of vr chat in general
vocal shard
dawn pecan
Lolicon is legal in norway, unless that changed very recently
twin jacinth
i got the pack from a Japanese friend in vrchat <- somewhat related
vocal shard
I'm just saying hair on maps is a great way to confuse people. The new VRC hair style
but yeah lolicon is legal where i am too
though people are making fbi jokes for some reason..
sonic elk
so got a question before i switch over to oculus store vrchat is there a version of playspace mover for it? as i know the current one is built for steamvr
vocal shard
but I suppose thats just people in general
dawn pecan
It's because people are unoriginal fucks.
And nope, sadly no playspace mover on oculus yet
vocal shard
but yeah though the u.s customs can be a little suspicious sometimes and may take a few weeks up to a month or two just to get something
knotty notch
Wheres the bug report channel? Did they take it down or am i blind?
vocal shard
all because they want to make sure its quote on quote "safe and no illegal drug smuggling"
indigo yacht
@sonic elk i doubt also if youre moving to oculus version your game time wont be counted on your steam profile neither you wont be able to reply for steam messages or take steam screenshots anymore
quartz basin
U.S. customs probably equip your goods with spying devices.
vocal shard
i checked no spy devices here
quartz basin
Have to keep your citizen in check...Uh, I mean for safety reasons!
vocal shard
oooooo sureee thats why >w>
neat dawn
lmao now im stuck on the stage
indigo yacht
@knotty notch it's renamed as ''user support''
vocal shard
well no thanks. i always take being dressed in private
knotty notch
Oh fun
dawn pecan
Lots of hardware is being intercepted and having backdoors added to it
stiff tree
Does anyone remember the name of the world made by two people that has a bunch of anime avatars with the main ones being saber and a water fox girl
quartz basin
Wouldn't even cross my mind!
vocal shard
? no. but are you sure its not anything fate late night or whatever its called?
dawn pecan
But it's a losing battle, anyways. You can already buy all the personal information that the government has collected on me, from russia and china
vocal shard
(am i saying it right? is it fate late night or fate night late?
sonic elk
@indigo yacht thats not so much an issue tbh. just there is so many issues between the interactions of latest steamvr and oculus's updates that just cause stuff to fuck up that im looking to cut out atleast one of them if i can
vocal shard
(someone please correct me
quartz basin
Fate last night/cross/stay/lolicon witches
stiff tree
There wasn't a Fate in the name of the world my friends wants. It was something like x and y's avatar world
indigo yacht
i think he means toga avatar world
stiff tree
I believe that's it
vocal shard
I had seen a body pillow of that lolicon witch from fate late night, the one with the eye patch
stiff tree
Thank you rez
indigo yacht
np
dawn pecan
Toga has those hooded girls with leather outfits, they're pretty cool. They also control some orb thingy
quartz basin
What? There's a girl with an eye patch in Kaleid?
vocal shard
well i mean IDK if its from fate late night but like
indigo yacht
fate stay night*
vocal shard
she wears this huge witch hat, is a loli, and i think i dont remember if she wears red
but she has this eyepatch
stiff tree
Megumin
quartz basin
Lol!
twin jacinth
Megumin from konosuba
quartz basin
That's not Fate Stay!
vocal shard
Yes her
sorry, I know rin thosaka is fate late night
but i didnt know megumin was from konosuba
all i know is i saw that body pillow before. in a video
you know the one that father takes it away from his son and uses it like a actual pillow? XD
I think the youtubers name is HX
apparently there is a normal pillow with ugandun knuckles on it XD
and here I thought the cringe was real
Can someone please explain to me what "runstrafelt" or "runstrafert" is about
like u know in the avatar controller thing.
and why is there so many
stiff tree
Strafe means moving side to side usually
stiff tree
I'm not sure, I don't know anything about making avatars
vocal shard
okay so i have 5/9 done
okay so question. should i do the , female skeleton (model not model bones), alice angel, bendy, or boris (all anime and are female)
i dont know why but apparently my friend mainly likes females
covert linden
Me too
vocal shard
Honestly imo I was thinking bendy
covert linden
I just made pascal from tales of graces
stiff tree
fnia?
vocal shard
five nights in anime
stiff tree
What's that?
vocal shard
basically one of my favorite fangames ever :3
imagine fnaf characters but as anime girls and they have giant chests
wheat lark
Why did they even bother porting the game to a new engine? It has been causing so many issues
vocal shard
and they jumpscare with u with it pretty much. but i mean they are cute
stiff tree
You gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette
vocal shard
and i have a few of those models in vrchat (dont worry nothing inappropriate shown) and she kinda freaks out about it
covert linden
@wheat lark to improve the game in the longrun and continue on with lts
vocal shard
"schmidt we have to be family friendly!!!" : P well she has never seen the ugandun knuckles videos.. so..
covert linden
@wheat lark the last port had waaaay more problems than this that dont compare according to one of the devs, so were lucky if anything. It helped with a lot of things including fps
vocal shard
I honestly dont think she knows about the things that goes on in vrchat sometimes..
but I dont say that infront of her because i dont want to seem rude
indigo yacht
I find it fun people blame devs breaking game when they are making it better and in process some avatars break then everyone riot and yell at devs over simple thing lol
Reuploading avatars is easy
vocal shard
apparently she thinks doki doki literature club is inappropriate too but apparently she says yuri is her favorite.. like.. what????
.-. idk ask her about it. not me
all i know is i love ddlc to death
indigo yacht
In my opinion devs could do clean wipe and delete avatars so people gotta start all over
vocal shard
<- if.. well if its not obvious already
and yes that is official ddlc merch, official plushies im going to get on christmas
I have a crush on natsuki
covert linden
I think they should wipe the black worlds
stiff tree
Racism
covert linden
Because I lost my home and its very emotional
vocal shard
^ oof im very sorry to hear about that đŠ
covert linden
It not racist its the fact that black worlds crash me xD
indigo yacht
@covert linden yea give month or 2 more to creators time to fix them if they dont fix them then wipe
vocal shard
so thats how bad it is???
covert linden
@indigo yacht yeah true thats a good idea
vocal shard
well noe (if hes still on) told me to report any bugs i find to the creators...
covert linden
And no its just ive got a slow laptop
vocal shard
like if their world is bugging
covert linden
Theyd know if their world was black lol
vocal shard
like i mean if it was like all purple or all pink
covert linden
I hope the creator of my home is still active and can reupload
vocal shard
or that the lighting is off
indigo yacht
Problem is people who made maps and dont play anymore wont be updating their worlds likely
vocal shard
well I think my home is kinda okay i hadnt checked on it but i should when i have the chance
covert linden
I hope my home is an updated often one
vocal shard
Well I DO HOPE they update the ddlc map if they dont im upset!
covert linden
My home was the japanese apartment one
vocal shard
(because i mean i would upload one myself but thats if i have the creativity and the patience too..
(and i tell u im not a very patient person :<
covert linden
But im getting a world custom built for my group so its not the biggest deal
vocal shard
(like i would be so excited when it says that when a package is suppose to arrive on a certain day and i wait that day excited, then turns out i would rage a little inside if it comes the day after that
(but would be happy when it does get here
indigo yacht
@covert linden creating world is easy if you know basics of unity and you tube has pretty good guides how to get started
vocal shard
also dont ask me why i was talking with that circle bracket on. idk is like a side whisper
covert linden
Sucks to suck is what I say during those situations
It is easy but I genuienly dont have the time
vocal shard
Hey rez do you know if they are going to update the DDLC map
the one with the school house
covert linden
I hope so because thats where crippled spiderman teaches his classes
vocal shard
Oh sorry to hear hes crippled
covert linden
He enjoys being a cripple
vocal shard
im guessing that was when thanos..
well, like , when you know, snapped his fingers?
i had seen that scene because a friend showed me and i never saw that movie
covert linden
You should meditate or something you talk about being pissed off a lot thats not healthy
vocal shard
I know đ but thats because alot happens in my life. you now how theres things that trigger people
Anyway . but yeah. I am still going to see infinity war. is just if i ever have time
covert linden
I mean I have moderate ptsd so I get the trigger thing but like
vocal shard
and hey i am not usually like that alot. i mean i am peaceful alot of the time
covert linden
Learning to calm is a good skill
vocal shard
is not that i get "pissed off" easily is just "agitation" is the right word
like if someone was almost about to run me over even when i am careful because the driver is crazy, and i almost get a heart attack
thats when i swerve to the other side to be safe then sorry
(when im on my bike.)
covert linden
I like to assume if someones being very angry like speeding that maybw theyre on the way to the hospital or having a bad day
If you think of it like that youu cant be mad
vocal shard
Well I mean probably
covert linden
No I like walking
vocal shard
well i mean thats true
well i mainly bike because diabetic reasons
again only reason why i get agitated easily is because of this aspergers i have
makes me socially awkard sometimes
covert linden
My cousin has aspergers
vocal shard
(and well there are times that i get a little.. well shy
covert linden
My bf has some form of autism but I dont know what kind
So like ive always been around aspergers and I can see where youre coming from, my cousin bikes a lot too actually
vocal shard
well I had another very close friend (not the female one i kept talking to u about) who also has aspergers like me
and well apparently the driver of a uber bus (idk if it was uber or something else.) apparently they had a policy or at least a thing against people like that
and so he was told his ticket was out of date and kicked him off the bus
he was on the news after that happened
though its not my place to discuss..
covert linden
Thats terrible, stuff like that doesnt occur where I live
vocal shard
well we live like miles away from each other
because im in like in zephryhills and i am not sure maybe he was like in tampa?
and so probably even though it might be in the same state sometimes some parts of the state acts a little differently
I guess. : P
though me and him went to like the same school though i already graduated last year
(that was until i had to take care of responsibilities because my grandparents
but hey i get paid good per week. and im still living and staying in my house , besides the bike, and whenever i do go out to eat so its all good
Though. and this drama I want to stay out of this server but im going to mention it anyway. I had been dealing with harrasser drama for almost about a whole year now, and i had kept blocking them on discord but they keep making alts. so if someone ads you that doesnt have a server. that maybe be them. just a warning u know
@covert linden but dont worry i am alright though
just people starting rumors
no big deal really.
v also I have a question. what is slow mode and why is it enabled????
stiff tree
You can only speak once every 5s
vocal shard
Oh đ to maybe stop spammers? its a good system. i like it
stiff tree
I believe it was enabled because of spamming before
vocal shard
how do you enable it? i wish my server had that about a month ago
because i had one of those harrassers, apparently one of those "alts" was someoen that was pretending to be someone that wanted to be my gf that to gain my trust, and welp
i didnt realize it before it was too late my server was taken over when that person was opped and things went crazy, spam everywhere. so i banned them all
goes to show. "there are some people you simply cant trust."
but yeah everything is alright other then those few things that bother or trigger me or drama that is going on. I actually have a pretty decent life
I just hope I dont get banned for talking about personal stuff in here
vocal shard
well I mean, I am not the only person that this happens to. remember there will always be people out there that this gets happened too
I suppose its just best to move on sometimes
queen mango
As far as I know, the admins enable slowdown when there is an announcement, whether a game update or some other event
However, this is different. They enabled slowdown because of an incident 2 months ago that was the result of a server DDoS
vocal shard
wait ghosto is that a yuri picture i see? cute đ i am so glad i met another ddlc fan
I think I kinda heard something about a server DDoS
Bronx told me about it
see thing is why someone would go out of their way to do that I have no clue. i just hope everythings stable now
umbral reef
@queen mango Its permanent on now
inner cape
Yes it is, but I'm not a big fan of the game, only done 1 play through 
Put yuri up cause I'm pretty similar to her in personality and habbits
Also I have the same name irl 
vocal shard
because of the whole thing?
stiff tree
I kind of like slow mode
vocal shard
meh i kinda find it 50/50
i really dont hate it i really dont love it i just simply dont care is all
stiff tree
@inner cape are you Russian with that name?
vocal shard
:3
umbral reef
I dont like it
If its to prevent spamming a robot can do the same without being so obnoxious if you type a bit to fast...
Having my screen shake every 4 seconds when talking to more then ne person is annoying af
vocal shard
Hey I have a question
stiff tree
Hi Emie
queen mango
You haven't seen all of it though. Lot's of users went to this Discord, saying the same 'I keep receiving an 'authentication error message' statement.
It got to the point where the #bug-report was closed down to VRChatters due to these incidences.
On another note, Ruuubick had to mute general chat due to some users spamming custom emotes.
vocal shard
when im about to edit the mesh/texture to put it to opaque apparently its greyed out
queen mango
That was 1 month ago
vocal shard
and it wont let me change it. what do i do??
inner cape
@stiff tree not quite Russian, but the name is, yes
umbral reef
@queen mango I was there for all those events...
queen mango
Most of us, and a few purples
inner cape
stiff tree
vocal shard
ohhh... fml
I think I found a bug
go into the avatars chat and youll see what im talking about, its a bug in the SDK i think
vocal shard
phew. anyway i got 6/9 done. anyway im going to bed
cold talon
vocal shard
see all of you tomorrow
cold talon
OK gnight
rigid crescent
https://puu.sh/CgUYY/eb6ca95758.png owo this is a new one
queen mango
So, when are plans to celebrate New Year's Eve in VRChat?
Not that I expect one anytime soon
mighty galleon
moo
rigid crescent
same :3
queen mango
Apologies in advance if I am not present for it.
Because my timezone is a day ahead of yours.
twin jacinth
đ
inner cape
Might do a 24h stream or some shit, idk how
cold talon
24h furi strim
inner cape
Maybe not 24, but starting from the earliest new year celebration till the latest one
O yes, furi 
cold talon
Well better stock up on energizer drinks
cold talon
Oof you missed my country 
queen mango
I'll be staying 'round VRChat to keep awake.
cold talon
Yee a little higher
queen mango
Also, is it me or is Virtual Week-ality pretty laggy?
quartz basin
Wait, you guys are gonna be online on new years eve?
inner cape
It is
rigid crescent
damn, the callout
queen mango
Yep.. We will all be there
cold talon
Laggerer than pug 
inner cape
Not all, but some will be
I spent the last few new years alone, this will be the first one on vrc, I'm excited
cold talon
Holdoonno can't talk there what 
median basalt
You literally cannot talk in there
cold talon
ocean geyser
anyone know why im getting this error and can't log into the game? it says VRChat has encounted an error and must close....
queen mango
Strange.. there's two from what I know.. One by the TV and one near the gumball machine
cold talon
Is it a vrc related problem or some strange unity cap
dawn pecan
Unity can only have 32 sound sources active at a time, no matter the range to the player
If (players talking + active sound effects in a world) > 32, you will have problems. It's super retarded.
You can't even turn them off on an onExitTrigger, because every other trigger inside that zone would break.
You basically need to add a tripwire (invisible box somewhere) that you think the player is going to walk through when they leave that sound source, then setComponentActiveFalse on the sound
cold talon
Do players count as always active components, or only when they talk 
cold talon
dawn pecan
Pretty sure it's only when they talk
median basalt
I've had moments where Lakuza was wildly gesturing while no sound came out of him
dawn pecan
Otherwise, it wouldn't stutter. It would just be muted past 32 players
dawn pecan
Well, I guess it might be all players, but that only 32 of them will be audioable at a time
Either way, it's a shitty limitation and Unity is bad
cold talon
Could it be the mute mic button just disables the component?
That would explain the diffrent results 
dawn pecan
That could be, not easy to test though, and we're not allowed to look at the code
queen mango
So this will be a problem for when New Year's Eve comes.
cold talon
If we go past 29 player yes, the map has 3 audio sources I think
dawn pecan
Huh, nobody jumped in to defend Unity just now, weird.
They did when I criticized the 16bit coordinate system, the camera, and the 16 bit polygon limit
mighty galleon
<.<
median basalt
I'm sure the limit exists for a reason, audio is expensive
And the max sources is configurable by the game
Generally when a lot of audio is active at once, it is supposed to start prioritizing
dawn pecan
The 32 is hardcoded I believe
The priority thing is broken, me and a friend tested it
median basalt
Broken how?
Remember that a lower priority means more important
And that avatar audio has to be at priorities 200-255
median basalt
I dunno what priority player voices are
dawn pecan
Either 255, or the thing is broken
safe marsh
mighty galleon
oh hi heartlexx
safe marsh
Hey Sean, how r u c:
mighty galleon
good, you?
mighty galleon
time?
safe marsh
9am
safe marsh
indigo yacht
11:50 am here lol
safe marsh
well im on the far west of europe .w.
indigo yacht
< finland
twin jacinth
10:50 here
wow
safe marsh
Spanish/French? <:
mighty galleon
cali
twin jacinth
Me?
Nooo
quartz basin
Lies, it's probably chinese.
safe marsh
Lol naw
twin jacinth
Ooh nice
mighty galleon
heartlexx cat
tiny ginkgo
Norwegian Forest cats are the best.. They're so fluffy
quartz basin
Screw cats, let's talk about real pets.
quartz basin
Senpai, no!
safe marsh
Yas yas mine is rly fluffy
tiny ginkgo
heehee ^^
safe marsh
If you pet it your hand disappears in the middle of the fur c:
tiny ginkgo
Yeah.. I can brush for hours and it's so happy about it
mighty galleon
nas
tiny ginkgo
hi
mighty galleon
hi
alpine cove
someone put an avatar in their avatar world that uses the same model I used for mine, now people are gonna think i stole the idea. big reee.
glossy wharf
median basalt
Glad they fixed gestures getting stuck in seats
Now I can actually put stuff on fist again
And if we can sit in our own avatar chairs I can do a thing I wanted to do for a long while
glossy wharf
Mobile artillery crash gun wagon 
full tiger
anyone with oculus having movement problems? some worlds have split screen on headset and nowhere will let me move if humanoid model
alpine cove
if you're having headset split screen, the world hasn't been reuploaded since the update
umbral reef
Those worlds need to reupload stuff--
alpine cove
idk if the movement is related to that, but probably
full tiger
yah it's very strange
alpine cove
test the avatar somewhere like default home or pug i would say, somewhere that's definitely been updated
umbral reef
For the movement make sure you have no controllers added at all beside the stuff you need (keyboard, mouse and ect)
So any game controllers and ect have to be unplugged
fiery sonnet
hello
full tiger
thankies for the help
safe marsh
Hai~~
rigid crescent
home world has had to download twice just now lol
inner cape
I deleted like 20-30 people in the past week, just cause I don't remember them anymore and they don't join me
And the last one I deleted appeared in a pug a few moments later
safe marsh
I should start doing dat
inner cape
Nope
inner cape
Friend of mine has a shit ton of friend requests he hasn't accepted, I don't get it
quartz basin
Ghosto is lying. They do receive a message.
inner cape
They do?
quartz basin
You disappointed millions of users.
inner cape
I doubt you receive one
Cmon
All these friend requests hanging, adding another row in the social menu
Annoying
quartz basin
ACCEPT THEM!
inner cape
I don't have any
But some people do
I just reject them when I don't know or don't want to know the person
safe marsh
i have a lot there hanging but if they don't get a message of rejection, ill deny all tonight
shy nest
