#vrchat-general-2

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mighty galleon
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o.o

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he alive

ember forum
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its a l i v e

mighty galleon
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its a guy!

south viper
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people who go up the stairs 16 steps at a time ๐Ÿค”

indigo fern
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i can go down 16 steps at a time

south viper
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same

glossy wharf
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S l o w m o d e p o g g e r s

mighty galleon
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@umbral reef

mighty galleon
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@glossy wharf

glossy wharf
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wa

mighty galleon
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im bored, help me

glossy wharf
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what the fu

tiny ginkgo
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I've read that, at least on Oculus Rift, the Steam VR interface takes up ressources.. Do you know if it's possible to start VRC in VR mode outside of Steam?

glossy wharf
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did that really just get automodded

mighty galleon
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wait what?

glossy wharf
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whatever

queen mango
glossy wharf
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@tiny ginkgo I think there is a way, its not recommended though.

tiny ginkgo
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Oh okay. Do you know why it's not recommended?

glossy wharf
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Pretty sure you need to unplug your monitor to be able to run it in vr outside of steam

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or it just straight up refuses to run in vr and only runs in desktop mode

tiny ginkgo
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Oh wow

glossy wharf
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you could also try running it straight from oculus home?

quartz basin
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OpencOMPOSITE

tiny ginkgo
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I tried OpenComposite but I don't think it supports VRC

quartz basin
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You can play Steam games without using SteamVR.

tiny ginkgo
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And if I start it in Oculus home it boots Steam

quartz basin
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It does

tiny ginkgo
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Oh really?

quartz basin
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I used it myself

tiny ginkgo
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Then I must have simply done something wrong. I will give it another shot.

glossy wharf
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isnt opencomposite that super unstable steamvr bypasser that doesnt support most games

quartz basin
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It worked splendidly for me.

glossy wharf
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yea it is

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doesnt support on screen keyboard, doesnt support a lot of games

mighty galleon
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im thinking of selling my trackers

tiny ginkgo
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well if it can just get me in the game I don't need all the SteamVR extras. I am craving performance optimizations

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Sometimes my "window" into VR simply hangs and my hands lag around.. It's crazy

quartz basin
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It's useful if you want to use 3 touch controllers.

granite drift
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If it's the dashboard that's giving you trouble, you can kill it in your processes as well.

mighty galleon
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syn, why does your name sound familiar

granite drift
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cause you know me

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I was the one with the witch avatar

mighty galleon
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ohh ok

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hi

tiny ginkgo
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The Steam VR dashboard, Syn?

granite drift
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Yeah

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idk if that's what you're meaning, or if you're meaning steamvr as a whole

tiny ginkgo
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Hm I think it's Steam VR as a whole.. That's how I read it, that it's an unnecesarry layer on top of the Oculus SDK

glossy wharf
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i mean its a layer that integrates the oculus into the steam system

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giving you options to use stuff like advanced settings and playspace mover

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and things like ovrdrop

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Its a useful layer for the majority, and the performance increase from disabling it is minimal

tiny ginkgo
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Okay, if the performance increase really is minimal I will let it stay.

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I just want to do everything I can to avoid these crazy "freezes" i'm having

glossy wharf
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!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
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You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

glossy wharf
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tried this?

tiny ginkgo
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Hm not after getting VR. I used to do it on desktop every two weeks or so

glossy wharf
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do that, try reducing your supersampling in vr

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theres a lot of things it could be

mighty galleon
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sai question

glossy wharf
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does your pc meet the specs?

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yes sean.

mighty galleon
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how much do you think you should sell a vive thats like new with every thing and three trackers

glossy wharf
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450 for the vive + 90 per tracker

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i would do

tiny ginkgo
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Yeah I'm messing around with the supersampling also. It's a home built spec with 1060, 8 gigs of ram and a fast enough cpu. It runs all other applications super smooth so I'm only messing around with VRC (my favorite app ^^)

glossy wharf
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8gb of ram is probably where you are bottlenecking, what cpu is it

mighty galleon
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so 720 for the whole thing? i was thinking 600 in total

tiny ginkgo
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I'ts an i5 clocked to 4.2 ghz

mighty galleon
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or 650

glossy wharf
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yeah thats probably your bottleneck

mighty galleon
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bottleneck?

ember forum
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just start at max and gradually drop the price

glossy wharf
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Not you i answered nassachi

mighty galleon
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oh ok

glossy wharf
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Sean, you put your price always higher than what you wanna sell, people will message you and go with a lower price, then you go down a bit from your higher price

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and you keep going until you have them at the price you wanted.

mighty galleon
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ohh ok

ember forum
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why tho

tiny ginkgo
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it might simply be a hardware issue although it runs other games on ultra (Witcher etc) without trouble. Maybe going to 16 gigs of ram could help VRC since it seems like a lot of the textures are huge

mighty galleon
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im just thinking of doing it b/c i dont have the time to get find people to re rig all my stuff and i enjoyed rift more, so i was thinking of going back

glossy wharf
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do a mixed setup

ember forum
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^

glossy wharf
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keep vive as backup

mighty galleon
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ehh, i dont really have the money to be wasting to have both since im paying off my laptop

ember forum
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you might wanna keep the vive for when the knuckles come out

mighty galleon
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im not a huge vr player

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i rarely get on so knuckles wouldnt be worth it

tiny ginkgo
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I can sit in Oculus home and just pick stuff up and decorate for hours.. I love those knuckles

mighty galleon
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-only have vr for vrchat and even then, i rarely get on-

tiny ginkgo
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Yeah then it's a little expensive to have lying around..

glossy wharf
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Nassachi, not talking about the oculus controllers, we are referring to valves in development knuckles controllers.

mighty galleon
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ive played vrchat for over a year and i only have near 500 hours

tiny ginkgo
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Yeah I know but I assume they will be a bit similar in feel to the Oculus ones ye??

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just from the name at least

mighty galleon
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-i also cant put screws in the wall so the vive sensors arent usable

tiny ginkgo
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But Sean maybe the best idea is to sell it, and then if you want to join again next year or the year after, maybe there's new hardware out there

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You can probably use M3 Tape

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That's how I hang my Rift sensors on the ceiling

mighty galleon
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the hells that

tiny ginkgo
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3M*

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It's for hanging up heavy duty stuff...

mighty galleon
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?

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sooo... strong ductape

tiny ginkgo
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It's just double sided tape basically, but it's super strong

mighty galleon
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if its hard to get off the walls or leaves a mark i cant use it

quartz basin
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Improved touch controllers.

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Me likey

mighty galleon
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that... looks umcomfertable

tiny ginkgo
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i like the strap.

safe marsh
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The ergonomics on that look amazing

tiny ginkgo
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It's always a little uncomfortable to throw stuff with the Rift Knuckles

glossy wharf
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they are super comfortable.

mighty galleon
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whats the middle thing between buttns and controll sticks suppost to be

glossy wharf
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and the tracking of your finger movements is fucking amazing

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where you rest your thumb

mighty galleon
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oh

safe marsh
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will it work with the vive though?

glossy wharf
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yes

safe marsh
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sweet

mighty galleon
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thats coming out anytime soon though righ?

glossy wharf
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Not anytime soon no

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currently dev kit 3

mighty galleon
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yeah no, im not the patient type

quartz basin
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Knuckles controller will come out with the Valve HMD.

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Plot twist, they will not be compatible with either Rift or Vive.

safe marsh
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welp

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Considering how long until a Valve HMD might be a thing im prolly gona be ready for an upgrade

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can't wait for a HMD where Pixels aren't visable .-.

mighty galleon
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oh for the vive?

glossy wharf
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@quartz basin they are compatible with the vive, thats literally what developers use for it right now.

quartz basin
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For now.

mighty galleon
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<.< >.>

glossy wharf
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And it will stay like that, its a steamvr solution.

mighty galleon
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i found a cool looking phone

quartz basin
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It's probably trash.

mighty galleon
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thats why its cool

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b/c its not apple

quartz basin
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Uh, let me judge your phone. Which one do you want to buy?

mighty galleon
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i dont really wanna buy it, since im never buying a new phone till this current one fully breaks

quartz basin
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Everything appears to be solid. You may get some complications with several apps due to the MTK chipset. Also the Camera really isn't great.

mighty galleon
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i dont use apps or camera's xD

gaunt scaffold
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I am still waiting for a good linux phone

mighty galleon
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im not a phone person, my phone is just to make the one call a month and to do the rare text

quartz basin
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No idea why you would get such a rugged beast, then.

mighty galleon
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i like the look of it and the sos function of it

gaunt scaffold
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All phones need a sos function nowdays right?

mighty galleon
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idk?

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but that phone has a button to where if you hold it dwn for like 7 seconds it sends out an sos

gaunt scaffold
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O h what could go wrong

mighty galleon
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i drive through the mountains a lot

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lose signal in a lot of those parts

gaunt scaffold
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Sos cant help you without signal

mighty galleon
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isnt it more like a satalite thing with sos?

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and not cellphone coverage

gaunt scaffold
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I dont know what sos service is it

mighty galleon
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it must be somethign like 911, if you dont have coverage you can still call 911

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people use satalite phones in the middle of the woods for emergencies

gaunt scaffold
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Oh usa stuff cant talk there then

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But prob is

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Looked at the specs

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But waterproof is a lie

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Its water reppeling

mighty galleon
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i never had the water proble

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have had my phone for two years, havent dropped it once or damaged it

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it still looks like new xD

gaunt scaffold
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Yeah i dont get why ppl say waterproof tbh

mighty galleon
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they should say water resistent, but not waterproof

gaunt scaffold
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Yeah

mighty galleon
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but yeah i dont much like phones, i only have mine for work calls practically

safe marsh
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Well i shower with my s8

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Lol

mighty galleon
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-time to hax heartlexx's phone-

safe marsh
mighty galleon
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;3

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timetoseethegoodstuff

inner cape
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You shouldn't say that in public

mighty galleon
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<.<

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-hax's ghostos heart-

safe marsh
fleet ice
mighty galleon
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@elder quartz

long venture
mighty galleon
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oh hi shana

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when do i get my hug

long venture
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perhaps somewhere in the future because I'm out now

mighty galleon
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damnit

long venture
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I also realized they changed the timer from 30 to 5 seconds

glossy wharf
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@gaunt scaffold every android is a linux phone ...

gaunt scaffold
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?

glossy wharf
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you said you are waiting for a linux phone

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every single phone with android is a linux phone

mighty galleon
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i know my phones made by htc other then that idk what it is

inner cape
mighty galleon
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hi ghosto

inner cape
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Yo

mighty galleon
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when do i get your love

glossy wharf
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๐Ÿƒ

mighty galleon
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<.< at least i aint asking for your love sai

fleet ice
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can somebody get this man some hugs, love and pats..

mighty galleon
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no i dont need them

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i need to annoy ghosto

glossy wharf
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You wouldnt get my love.

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We both know that.

mighty galleon
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yeah

gaunt scaffold
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@glossy wharf yes but i mean for different kernel

glossy wharf
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??????????????????

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linux phone but not the linux kernel

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so not a linux phone???????

gaunt scaffold
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Should have said so welp fu ma phone that just corrected

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When im back from work il be more specific to hard to write on a phone.

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Sorry for the confusion

mighty galleon
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moo

gaunt scaffold
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What i mean is a unfucked version of the kernel

mighty galleon
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oh

glossy wharf
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so

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basically any android custom rom

gaunt scaffold
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Nothing anroud

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Android

glossy wharf
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android is literally a proper linux kernel and if you make your custom rom its unfucked.

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if you want linux on a phone but not android you basically want linux on a phone but not linux.

mighty galleon
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soo, have no phone

gaunt scaffold
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Uh i dont want to explain it rn way to hard

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Atleast to properly explain it withput throwing alot of questions and confusion around

rough pulsar
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If you want actual linux on a phone, check out Sailfish X on some of the sony xperia phones. :V

mighty galleon
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gallium

rough pulsar
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yes

glossy wharf
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check out ubuntu phone which was ditched.

mighty galleon
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how much would it cost to go on a date with you

glossy wharf
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what the fuck

rough pulsar
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$14.50 and two live cows.

mighty galleon
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ok

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time to breed cows

queen mango
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Must've been one expensive dinner

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Well, would

mighty galleon
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more like, an exspensive way to not feel odd going to the movies solo

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just pay a person to go with you

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@glossy wharf i finally remember why your name sounds familiar

glossy wharf
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hm

mighty galleon
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its a weapon

glossy wharf
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hm?

mighty galleon
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sai, its a martial arts weapon

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kinda odd looking one, but i remember seeing a person use it

long venture
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oh sai is kinda like a hand held fork-ish weapon

glossy wharf
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its a dagger with two extra spikes yes.

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but that has nothing to do with my name cause its just short for sairenix LUL

mighty galleon
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oh

safe marsh
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so many #0001 's

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i gotta up my game i guess

mighty galleon
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nah

ruby burrow
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I'd probably go for #8888 myself, if I were choosing one.

mighty galleon
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why

ruby burrow
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I like 8

mighty galleon
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im 4682

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do i win?

ruby burrow
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Sure

mighty galleon
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yay

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can i get a hug as a reward

ruby burrow
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(>^_^)>

mighty galleon
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yay

safe marsh
umbral reef
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Squichy join stick gang!

glossy wharf
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Stick

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g a n g

umbral reef
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Should i make a stick gang bodypillow GWcfcThonk ?

glossy wharf
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yes

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im gonna make a logo

mighty galleon
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<.<

pine spire
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Anyone else not able to load into vrchat right now?

mighty galleon
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its a prolem with their networking currently

pine spire
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Like, I get the spinning vrchat logo and then it just sits on the background with nothing

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Ah

obtuse beacon
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Guys I need some help... I uploaded an avatar yesterday with some special effects but that day most people saw it. Now no body sees it and they said because my rank is new user. But how did people see it yesterday then>?

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And another question, How do I change my name in-game?

safe marsh
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If it's friends they can see, usually friends have everything on regarding shaders etc

rigid crescent
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if they're friends they can see it, everything unblocked for friends

obtuse beacon
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But it was some random people I didnt knew

rigid crescent
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if they're not your friend, they'll have to click you and hit "show avatar" to see all features

obtuse beacon
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In presetation room

rigid crescent
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they could've just had certain features unblocked then

safe marsh
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me personally i have everything off for everyone except friends, or i just turn on individually if i wanna 'check it out'

obtuse beacon
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But people said they have everything on and still cant see it

safe marsh
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look in the mirror, can you see it? lol

obtuse beacon
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I can see it in my own hand

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And sinds yesterday it worked im kinda confused. Because I use light for it and only Known users can use that

rigid crescent
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tell them to click you and hit "Show avatar", that'll make sure everything is on for sure

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no, everyone can use every feature

obtuse beacon
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But so normaly no one sees my special things/

glossy wharf
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Yes, until you rank up

safe marsh
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and thank god ^^

glossy wharf
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but spoiler alert, most people have it blocked on higher ranks aswell

safe marsh
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like me

rigid crescent
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by default, no, but people can set them however they like

glossy wharf
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i dont know a single person that uses default safety system except new users.

umbral reef
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Blocking things 4heae

safe marsh
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usually trusted users are the first ones to abuse those since they can lol

obtuse beacon
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Too be fair its Meg from dbd with a flashlight that I use to kinda blind people

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What can I say im a toxic survivor

umbral reef
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Why would you ruin your own vrc experience

rigid crescent
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Sai I remember the argument was "BUT NO ONE IS GONNA TOUCH THE SETTINGS!!?!?"

glossy wharf
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what

obtuse beacon
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Wait what

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I made my account yesterday

rigid crescent
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back when the trust settings were first announced

glossy wharf
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Who said that

obtuse beacon
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How do I turn all that off?>

rigid crescent
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the entire argument was "no one's gonna change the default!"

safe marsh
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Lol nice joke

glossy wharf
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wha

umbral reef
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@rigid crescent well it's worse even then we expected
Instead of peeps turning it off they turn it up even more

rigid crescent
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I mean that's not really bad. Odds are they would've outright blocked you instead.

umbral reef
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Now no ranks are safe ๐Ÿ‘€

glossy wharf
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idk i dont know anyone that blocks everything except for a few discord peeps here

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anyway gotta go eat some foods.

umbral reef
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Bring me some also

obtuse beacon
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But guys I just made my account what do I change in the settings so I see everything?

rigid crescent
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Go to Safety

safe marsh
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when i say i block everything is with the exception of the 1st 2 options ofc

rough pulsar
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I only block audio & particles because they're annoying.

rigid crescent
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also i linked you a guide

safe marsh
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but mainly coz my pc is crap atm, next week will be a difrent story

rigid crescent
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same Gallium.

safe marsh
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gona do a massive upgrade, then ill have shaders on by default as well

rough pulsar
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What you planning on getting?#

safe marsh
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i5 4690k -> R7 2700x | GTX 970 -> RTX 2080

umbral reef
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2080? Dam boy

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What ram do you have? Or you also upgrading that

safe marsh
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right now my cpu dies on vrchat lmao, my cpu hiting 100% all time while the gpu chillin on 30% lmao

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16gb ddr 1600mhz, gona grab 16 DDR4 3200

umbral reef
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And that can be a dust problem ๐Ÿ‘€

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Ow then your set for that atleast

safe marsh
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its on a custom loop @ 4.5ghz

rough pulsar
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any cpu dies on vrchat at the moment. Even a fucking threadripper.

safe marsh
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really? FeelsBadMan xD

rough pulsar
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Still, 970 to 2080 is gonna be a nice upgrade

umbral reef
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Depends

safe marsh
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but im sure ill notice a difrence with the cpu change as well

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the one i have allrdy deserves to be put to sleep haha

rough pulsar
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If you can get better single-core perf out of it you'll notice something.
Plus when some future updates hit you'll get more from that too.

rigid crescent
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lol i just decimated something for the first time in months

rough pulsar
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Did you use planar decimation on a deforming mesh?
Because you better not have ๐Ÿ—ก

umbral reef
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@rough pulsar version change will help a lot as VoIP is off main core

rigid crescent
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it was on my shoelaces

rough pulsar
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Yeah, that's gonna be great. And I've heard IK's getting booted onto its own thread at some point, which is gonna be amazing

rigid crescent
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and i used collapse

umbral reef
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It's only on closed beta

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Normal beta doest have anything like that

safe marsh
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VoIP is getting better or? coz it's allrdy sweet

rigid crescent
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It's not sweet at all lol

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at one point, the IK and the VOIP were the two worst problems for alg

safe marsh
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Ok, it's allright p:

rigid crescent
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that was an old post from 2017 though, not sure how accurate it is now

rough pulsar
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IK's still pretty intense.

umbral reef
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VoIP is loads of overhead performance
Same goes for most networking

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Ik is so heavy because of calculations

rough pulsar
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Would be nice if they switched to Steam Audio
So many great features, reverb, occlusion, etc

rigid crescent
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``populated rooms being laggy is actually a combination of (in rough order of severity):

Inverse Kinematics calculations (the program that guesses, given your hand/head position, the location of the rest of your body)
uSpeak networking overhead
Photon network handling
Dynamic Bones overuse
Draw calls from too many materials/unmerged meshes

``

umbral reef
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Pretty much yea

mighty galleon
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oclac

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buy me

umbral reef
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No

mighty galleon
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darn

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buy my vive xD

rough pulsar
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Great thing about IK & VoIP improvements are we have nothing to do, nor can we really fuck it up.
Like DB, Materials & Meshes.

umbral reef
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Beg for them to improve it ๐Ÿ‘€

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That's what we can do

vocal shard
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not using FBT is one thing ๐Ÿ˜‰ @rough pulsar

rigid crescent
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lol they are

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yeah just get rid of FBT forehead

vocal shard
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it's a joke 4head

safe marsh
vocal shard
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they do cause more lag in the IK department

rough pulsar
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I hear noises about the IK improvements mean FBT has about the same cost as regular IK so you can take my trackers form my cold dead hands

vocal shard
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that would be sweet

glossy wharf
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Final ik beta Kreygasm

rigid crescent
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7 trackers, hurry up VRC

safe marsh
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7? owo

umbral reef
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Fbt improvements are already in the beta so far I know

rigid crescent
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elbow elbow knee knee foot foot waist

safe marsh
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Knees and elbows?

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Please, don't make me spend even more money lmao

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That will make tracking so freakin accurate

glossy wharf
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Yea and laggy

rough pulsar
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Elbows would be more useful than knees (both are nice though) because of how much the wrist can move compared to the ankle

glossy wharf
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Elbow i agree

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But knees are unnecessary

safe marsh
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for dancing i can see knees being a thing

rigid crescent
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fbt is unncessary

glossy wharf
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But knee rotation is pretty accurate from.hips and feet

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Elbow isnt

umbral reef
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Any ball or roll join should be tracked

glossy wharf
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Just make a tracking suit

umbral reef
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And flip? Joint should not
We can use it for guessing how far a legg is bend

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But things like shoulders and hips ain't easy

safe marsh
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welp, ill be happy to just get my 3 trackers, don't think ill ever get more if it ever becomes a thing

mighty galleon
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you already bought them heartlexx?

safe marsh
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end of this month

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the new pc build is gona cost a lot lol wanna space it out

mighty galleon
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im thinking of selling my trackers

safe marsh
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weren't u the one without vr?

mighty galleon
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no

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i have a vive with three trackers for full body tracking

safe marsh
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oh i thought u said yday u were desktop, my confusion then

inner cape
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Send me them

mighty galleon
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nah that was probably someone else

safe marsh
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how can u be willing to sell them xD

inner cape
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They are trash

safe marsh
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im gona be dancing none stop once i get mine

mighty galleon
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i never used it b/c my avatars arent rigged for them

inner cape
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For 4 hours you mean? @safe marsh

mighty galleon
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and i cant be paying people to re rig all my models

safe marsh
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i mean, thats usually the ammount of time i have to play per day so im fine with that battery life lol

inner cape
mighty galleon
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thinking of selling them for like 200 for all three xD

safe marsh
#

but i heard ppl saying they have the same battery life as the controllers

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in which case i usually use 50% on 1 go for the most part

median basalt
#

Imagine having to stop playing because you have to charge your controllers

#

This meme was made by Oculus gang in collaboration with desktop gang

safe marsh
#

also

inner cape
safe marsh
#

even if it is 4h, im totally fine in doing a break after that time lmao

inner cape
#

Imagine having more than 1 wire on you
This meme was made by the oculus gang

mighty galleon
#

i just wanna sell my trackers and vive stuff and buy oculus again

median basalt
#

Imagine having the most expensive yet simultaneously the worst controllers

mighty galleon
#

yeah

median basalt
#

This meme was brought to you by Oculus, WMR, and literally anything that isn't the Vive

#

More companies should start making controllers, we need competition. There's a ton of headsets coming out but no new controllers

safe marsh
#

why ppl hate the vive so much, i love mine lol

mighty galleon
#

i liked oculus much more

inner cape
#

They need to make their shit open source for once so we can use oculus controllers with whatever

median basalt
#

Because it's overpriced lol

mighty galleon
#

ive had a lot of problems with vive

median basalt
#

The vive controllers are legit complete ass

#

The headset is okay but too expensive for what it is

mighty galleon
#

like needing to make the thing work even harder to not have glares everywhere

median basalt
#

The only upside is that it's on the OpenVR platform and that the tracking doesn't need USB ports, but you pay almost twice as much money

inner cape
mighty galleon
#

like in vrchat i need to have oversampling at 70% for i wont be annoyed by glares

jade shuttle
#

Hello

median basalt
#

Oh yeah, I set my supersampling to 1.8x and it's a lot clearer that way

#

I think that's the default though

mighty galleon
#

@safe marsh

idle cipher
#

what is going on

mighty galleon
#

they have the same accoun open on three different instances

median basalt
#

Or a modded client

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If they're on desktop they probably just opened the game 3 times

mighty galleon
#

yeah

idle cipher
#

wont that kill your cpu gpu and your memory?

mighty galleon
#

i thinkthe most ive seen is someone have 8 open at once

median basalt
#

Not on desktop and not if you have plenty of power to spare

#

I did it with like 5 clients a while back

idle cipher
#

must have a really powerful pc to do that

median basalt
#

Nah

#

You underestimate the kind of potato that can still run this game on desktop

rigid crescent
#

Yeah I did it with VR and one in desktop

mighty galleon
#

one way to combat lonelyness, go into a empty instance with a bunnch of you

rigid crescent
#

it's pretty surreal when you do it in VR

vocal shard
#

i didnt even know could open multi clients on one account thats weird

median basalt
#

I've never been able to launch two instances in VR, unfortunately

safe marsh
#

Never such thing happened to me sean

median basalt
#

I might need to try OpenComposite

idle cipher
#

i cant run anything else if i have vrchat open

mighty galleon
#

ouch

rigid crescent
#

it's fun as a first time gimmick, most people don't know about it

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join your friends, then join in VR

safe marsh
#

Why would u run 2 instances

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To lewd your ownself? Keepo

mighty galleon
#

self serving

safe marsh
#

That is SO sad now that i think of it holy crap

vocal shard
#

wtf

vital rune
#

just to trick people

umbral oracle
#

Definitely done seen people do that

mighty galleon
#

-licks jiff-

glossy wharf
#

I do it so i can talk to smart people for once Maidkapp

safe marsh
#

Lmao

mighty galleon
#

well ima sleep

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5:20am rn, night/morning

median basalt
#

I ran two instances yesterday to test world objects in 2017

queen mango
#

Have a good rest, Sean

glossy wharf
#

Does your pickup work now

median basalt
#

RIP, I found a nice model I wanted to use but it's been taken down

rigid crescent
#

link?

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Could be lucky and something someone has

median basalt
#

It's a pack

rigid crescent
#

oof a YYB mashup of PD outfits

#

that's rough. Well, if you like the outfits those are easy to find lol

median basalt
#

I'll have a look around for them

rigid crescent
#

should be an easy find, their names are alongside the model

median basalt
#

Yeah

#

Thanks

undone sand
#

You can easily find the PD versions, just not the YYB since they changed their rules for YYB models

median basalt
#

Yeah, fair enough

#

I might be able to just do that myself then

#

Shame

#

The YYB stuff look pretty good, I should try using them more

#

But I feel like Noenoe shaders might not do them justice, could try Xiexe's

undone sand
#

I wish YYB models were more appreciated by the MMD community.

glossy wharf
#

Yyb stuff is hard to find now

median basalt
#

Everything is just bland TDA

undone sand
#

To be honest they look better and smoother than TDA

glossy wharf
#

Since redistribution is rip

median basalt
#

Yeah :/

glossy wharf
#

I mean it didnt stop people from redistributing Frankensteined tdas

rigid crescent
#

They're not as dorito as TDA

glossy wharf
#

So you might find some

undone sand
#

Well YYB is still similar to TDA rule wise, minus not being able to redistribute with PD outfit designs from my knowledge

vocal shard
#

Is vrchat fun bois?

#

Honestly?

glossy wharf
#

Tda is also not allowed to be redistributed

rigid crescent
#

Yes? lol

undone sand
#

I actually have a YYB morphable base downloaded.

glossy wharf
#

Im having fun in vrc @vocal shard

vocal shard
#

Hmm ok that means its good

glossy wharf
#

Yyb is less strict even, but people take the no redistribution more serious than on tda it seems

rigid crescent
#

YYB is a good middle ground between PD and TDA

#

because I haaaate the PD look

glossy wharf
#

Idk i dont have a problem with tda, i usually edit the shit out of it anyway

undone sand
#

PD is still smoother than TDA, since I jsut dislike how sharp TDA is design wise

rigid crescent
#

Yeah it's mainly the face area that gets me for PD, even for anime it just feels so alien, and the lips are just off to me

undone sand
#

That and they lack teeth

median basalt
#

I don't like the PD faces

undone sand
#

They're kinda off without the PD shaders, at least they feel like that when they are outside PDFT

rigid crescent
#

Xiexie or something that uses the sphere mapping can help it out

#

I know someone that uses the PD Teto and it looks fine ingame

median basalt
#

Apparently there's also shaders out there that can use .sph

#

I know an edit of Cubed's exists which does that

#

And having the proper toon shading capability helps too

vocal shard
#

hi does anyone want to rp in vrchat?

hollow surge
#

[hard thonk]

vocal shard
#

maybe ๐Ÿค”

hollow surge
#

what sorta arpee are we talkin here fella

topaz panther
#

I would.. I have my RP sock at home.. but Iโ€™m at work

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Oh.. your just a troll.. nvm then

safe marsh
#

Lawl

topaz panther
#

Now we are talkin

vocal shard
#

ofc, rp groups exclusive af they dont ask in official vrc lol

hollow surge
#

the players haven't realized yet

vocal shard
#

uwu someday rp sama

hollow surge
#

i do want to try vr rp sometime but i don't have an actual vr setup yet

glossy wharf
#

@rough pulsar

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^^^

topaz panther
#

Only if you accept my love

hollow surge
#

d o n t t a k e t h e b a i t

vocal shard
#

ok

hollow surge
#

she's not even throwing in bait

glossy wharf
#

4 chat mods all afk, feelsvrchat man

hollow surge
#

she's throwing in the whole rod

umbral reef
#

@ruby needle ay ezpz time to work man

glossy wharf
#

@ruby needle

umbral reef
#

joined right on time as all others are ded

queen mango
#

Oof.. That's another time period there

vocal shard
#

uwu lets stay nice peeps so we can show chat mods senpais we're good on our own

safe marsh
#

Oof learning how to create avatars from scratch is gona be a long ride q.q

topaz panther
#

@vocal shard .. letโ€™s throw down

hollow surge
#

honestly though, i've never done non-structured rp
what sort of cancer are vr chat rp groups made of

#

๐Ÿค”

vocal shard
#

snuggles up

hollow surge
#

okay i'm not interested anymore (^:

vocal shard
#

were u truly ever interested tho xDDD

topaz panther
#

hands potato a hot chocolate ๐Ÿซ

hollow surge
#

in an idealistic way

vocal shard
#

noms

hollow surge
#

vr has some really good rp potential

#

it's like live action without the cost of getting everyone together

#

and far more potential flexibility

umbral reef
#

@lilac swan You then as you just popped up- Mind reading up in chat and applying the right punishments?

twin jacinth
#

Lol
da fuq is happening now

umbral reef
#

No chat mods are online or active at all ๐Ÿ‘

twin jacinth
#

FPaul is active it says though

topaz panther
#

Paul is I think

umbral reef
#

He is at work

#

Online =/= available for him

topaz panther
#

Yo.. Iโ€™m at work and Iโ€™m reading chat

twin jacinth
#

Oh well

queen mango
#

Shrug.. What now?

hollow surge
#

i'm always at work ๐Ÿ‘

umbral reef
#

Nothing

#

I logged it myself

hollow surge
#

there wasn't even any drama in the chat, i thought a mod was being poked for something personal

umbral reef
#

And thats the end of it~
Welcome to this chat

queen mango
#

Okay.. Wtf? These network timeouts seem to happen randomly

hollow surge
#

did i miss something

topaz panther
#

I expect the rest of the world to conform to my way of thinking and

rigid crescent
#

same

hollow surge
#

same

umbral reef
#

Wait you guys are mocking us pinging the mods? lmao?

twin jacinth
#

Ruubick is online

#

Maybe he can take care of the problem

umbral reef
#

Its not an emergency-

#

Its a chat mod task so pinging higher staff is a waste

twin jacinth
#

Just a hope that he sees this
and looks up the chat
and does something

topaz panther
#

I must have someone blocked bc I only see you pinging, Oclac

glossy wharf
#

I only pinged once at the top inbetween

umbral reef
#

No wonder you dont notice it if 20 minutes have passed since we first pinged staff and nothing happened...

topaz panther
#

Wat?

vocal shard
#

available near 24/7 to read chat uwu no life club

topaz panther
#

^

hollow surge
#

no oclac

#

i'm actually autism, i have no idea why you're pinging mods ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

i really feel like i missed something

queen mango
#

Well.. You heard of Cupcake chan, yes?

hollow surge
#

I can tell this immediately sounds like cancer (^:

topaz panther
#

I think Iโ€™ve seen her around

errant merlin
#

I have a question.. do you need full-body tracking for you to make it look like you're jumping up IRL?

polar elm
#

Yes

ember forum
#

mhm

errant merlin
#

So you can't do it without FBT?

ember forum
#

well you can jump, but

hollow surge
#

not at all
flip your model, do hand-stand jumps

polar elm
#

Your avatars toes wont leave the ground

hollow surge
ember forum
#

just gotta jump high enough

hollow surge
#

or put your arm bones in your legs

topaz panther
#

Or really good jump animation in a world with jumping enabled

hollow surge
#

then tape your controllers to your feet

#

what could go wrong

errant merlin
#

Ouch..

halcyon kestrel
#

why do i keep getting logged out when i join the box

#

anybody know?

safe marsh
#

the same instance or difrent instance?

halcyon kestrel
#

public

#

same one

safe marsh
#

not sure if it still has to do with connection issues, i havent had them for couple days now so i dunno

median basalt
#

It's probably hackers, stay out of the box

#

There's a new modded client going around for a couple of weeks that can log you out

safe yacht
#

I keep freaking crashing whenever I change avatar in my favorites list.

#

Getting really annoying.

#

I have to restart steam every time too, because when it crashes it forgets I have 2 hands, and puts my right controller as my left hand.

vocal shard
#

Swap your hands?

#

Oh oh oh

#

Ok what you do is you trun the controllers of and turn them back on

#

Starting with the right controller if not try it the other way round

safe yacht
#

Iโ€™d have to remove my batteries for that to happen. Faster to just restart steam.

rough pulsar
#

Sometimes vrchat gets it wrong and won't get it right until it's restarted

vocal shard
#

I'm sorry :/ it's easier for Vive I gues

safe yacht
#

Doesnโ€™t help to restart the game. I have to restart steam or the game will keep my right hand as my left.

#

But crashing every time I wanna change avatar from my fav list really is a bother

#

Itโ€™s a very recent problem

rough pulsar
#

Cloth components on any avatars?

vocal shard
#

I hate when vrchat derps out and swaps my hands xD

safe yacht
#

No idea.

umbral reef
#

Its the only thing i can think off myself Gallium

safe yacht
#

I dont know the lingo.

vocal shard
#

So my left will become my right and vice versa

safe yacht
#

But if I go to the world and change, I donโ€™t crash.

rough pulsar
#

There's a known bug with disabled cloth components on avatars causing crashes in the avatar menu

safe yacht
#

Only when I take them from my fav list.

#

Thatโ€™ll explain it.

umbral reef
#

Is it an avatar you uploaded or just use?
If you didnt upload it, have you made a contact with Vrchat support yet providing the avatars name, world, location and ect so they can check it out themself and if needed remove it?

vocal shard
#

Favourite

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Meaning world avatar

rough pulsar
#

Still would be nice to favourite our own avatars

vocal shard
#

Yeah I know people with hundreds of avatars

rough pulsar
#

Or cases where there's 3 variants you regularly use and would like them easily accessable rather than doing the endless list scroll

topaz panther
#

And up to 5 favorites

vocal shard
#

Or making it so you can organise your avatars

#

3 favourites is good imo

topaz panther
#

Like a hashtag system where you can group them like friends?

safe yacht
#

Itโ€™s not my avatars.

#

Theyโ€™re on my fav list, as I said.

#

3 avatars means we still visit worlds, I guess. 5 would be nice but yeah.

vocal shard
#

Yeah people are complaining that you can only favourite 3

#

I remember the times when my tracking would fuck up and I would have to go back to a world to get it to work properly again

umbral reef
#

People complain about anything and everything...
The day they got avatar favorites was the day someone complained it was only 3 favorites in here...

vocal shard
#

Now I learned how to do avatars ๐Ÿ˜†

#

And don't have to do that

polar elm
#

For only a low payments of 2.99 you can get 5 favourites

topaz panther
#

Iโ€™d pay it

hasty wedge
#

same

#

papa ron increase fav limit pls

rigid crescent
#

I like the limit, it helps rotate out declined world avatars

#

Otherwise they'd just stay in rotation even when the world goes down.

hasty wedge
frosty fog
#

Yeah hate when that happens

hasty wedge
#

when the world goes down u can still use the model tho

#

i demand vrc prem

umbral reef
#

Can we just do an 'oops' remove all avatar worlds beside the recently accepted and have only optimized avatar worlds ๐Ÿ‘€ ?

hasty wedge
#

5$ a month for morenslots

rigid crescent
#

Yes, exactly. When the world goes down, you can still use the model

#

But if you've only got 3 favorites, unless you never favorite another, they'll eventually rotate.

hasty wedge
#

ur rite

#

ill just yoink em TriHard

rigid crescent
#

I went from seeing subcom everywhere to not seeing it nearly as much a few weeks after it was down

#

lol that's ok I block user-uploaded subcom avatars too ๐Ÿ˜›

hasty wedge
#

OMEGALUL

rigid crescent
#

I mean I don't block the player lol I just know they're some of the worst popular ones. Those and the full body dancers are insta-block

polar elm
#

Why block full body dancers?

rigid crescent
#

Because they're, as far as I know, terribly, terribly unoptimized avatars.

#

I don't block people who dance, I jsut block the avatars of the people who use a certain world's avatars.

hasty wedge
#

the only one thqts rlly rlly bad is the one woth cloth on the hair

rigid crescent
#

Yeah, that entire world's avatars lol

umbral reef
#

Or billion dynamic bones and more then two colliders...

hasty wedge
#

not all of them use loth hair

rigid crescent
#

cloth on the hair, and the skirt, and the colliders, etc

vocal shard
#

You mean donut's world?

rigid crescent
#

I have no clue, they all have the same outfit tho

vocal shard
#

Yeah donut

rigid crescent
#

Then yeah

vocal shard
#

They aren't that unoptimised

#

But it could be better

rigid crescent
#

There's people with average pcs that drop 10FPS looking at one of them lol it's worse that it's popular too, there's more people in them

#

especially the cloth hair one

neon flume
#

Please don't block me senpai; I only have two dynamic bones, one mesh, and two mats ๐Ÿ˜ณ

rigid crescent
#

TWO mats?! BLOCKED

hasty wedge
#

U HAVE ONE MESH?

rigid crescent
hasty wedge
#

hello optimize ur model?

#

no shame

rigid crescent
#

two bones? pls tupper ban

vocal shard
#

I have around 27 dynamic bones 25 bodies and 27 materials unity_chan_dab

rigid crescent
#

wat

neon flume
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ I knew I should have just put them together. I'm sorry I'll go use a flat plane from now on

rigid crescent
#

25 bodies?

vocal shard
#

I am an unoptimised hoe

rigid crescent
#

the thought of 25 meshes gives me chest pains

vocal shard
#

Wait until you see what I do with colliders xD

hasty wedge
#

my model is optimized its only 27 materials 164 dbone transforms 17 colliders 1 cloth componet using 7k poly

rigid crescent
#

and that's why I wish they'd add a "meets performance standards" setting lol

#

Just auto-hide avatars that don't meet the normal requirements

novel fog
#

there is this guy in The Box going around and logging out people somehow, he just press a button and you are logged out, i met him yesterday as well

rigid crescent
#

yeah, gotta report him, not much else you can do

umbral reef
hasty wedge
#

no point in reporting xddd

novel fog
#

well, i dont remember his name cuz he logged me out the second i was reading it

vocal shard
#

No point in reporting

novel fog
#

why

vocal shard
#

He'll just make a new account and will use a VPN to surpass the ban

umbral reef
#

Implying playing with a vpn is any fun

#

and doesnt take months to download some maps as they are insanely large

hasty wedge
#

the box is 0mb

novel fog
#

and btw, where did the minigame Ultimate werewolf go?

#

i cant find it anymore

rigid crescent
#

"Never report, they'll find a way around it." best logic

#

no one likes using a VPN lol

vocal shard
#

I don't say don't

#

Im saying imo they will find a way around it

rigid crescent
#

Some will, not everyone does.

vocal shard
#

Btw would you like to see my dynamic bones horror?

#

Colliders*

rigid crescent
#

definitely not lol

#

knowingly lagging people = bad

vocal shard
#

Actually it doesn't lag people

#

We tested it out

median basalt
#

@vocal shard your "tests" are shite

vocal shard
#

XD

safe yacht
#

Iโ€™m hoping that me blocking people does have an effect on their trust. Cus man do I have to block or hide people who are so called Trusted users.

median basalt
#

Optimize your models. Just because your model doesn't drop people from 90 to 20 instantly doesn't mean it's laggy

#

@safe yacht I know someone who is blocked by hundreds of people and is trusted

vocal shard
#

I am learning how to I promise XD

safe yacht
#

I feel like those shits need to be fucking punished.

vocal shard
#

I just learned how to do avtars 2 weeks ago

safe yacht
#

So fucking sick of the Trusted users always always always being the people I block or hide. The rank means fucking nothing worth of trust.

#

Itโ€™s people who make their own avatars and upload them, which clearly makes them Trusted by the system.

umbral reef
#

Its legit not hard to optimize

safe yacht
#

Loud, visually painful avatars to look at with terrible and disruptive effects.

umbral reef
#

Just DONT do stuff
Dont add more then 2 colliders and DONT throw dynamic bone scripts on everything

safe yacht
#

And all the people Iโ€™ve caught talking about how they crash people, are Trusted users.

umbral reef
#

Dont use cloth components and TADA
Ezpz

vocal shard
#

I throw it on the skirts

#

And the hair

umbral reef
#

Same that you should not use models with more then one material unless you have a reason for it
And dont have more then one mesh ๐Ÿ‘

vocal shard
#

One material one mesh means you cannot change / add shaders different textures

#

was reading something saying dont report, report them, they annoy us with having to log back in, annoy them with making them make a new account and use a vpn :^)

rigid crescent
#

blocking has little to no affect on trust rank btw Dream

#

People don't get caught because not many people report

umbral reef
#

i said unless you havea reason for it
If you have diffrent shaders of example hair- You need two materials and ect

vocal shard
#

I have to use a mix of noe noe and flat lit because of how it does itb

umbral reef
#

But the second one shares the same shader and settings- Combine it

rigid crescent
#

Why do you need more than one mesh?...

umbral reef
#

Cat does it for free and even does it properly

rigid crescent
#

Materials matter for shaders, not meshes.

vocal shard
#

Meshes too

rigid crescent
#

No...

vocal shard
#

Yes

rigid crescent
#

You're 100% wrong.

vocal shard
#

only materials matter for shaders, meshes can be combined :p

rigid crescent
#

also you just started 2 days ago how are you going to tell me anything? lol

median basalt
#

@vocal shard you don't seem to get how texture atlasing works

vocal shard
#

If you create a new material you can add it to the body

rigid crescent
#

ah 2 weeks, sorry

topaz panther
#

All about that UV mapping

median basalt
#

You need one material for every different shader or shader configuration you are going to use. Textures are irrelevant in this.

vocal shard
#

I dunno how to UV map

rigid crescent
#

So, I have one mesh. Somehow I use 6 different materials and shaders just fine.

ivory folio
#

Hacker ๐Ÿ˜ก

rigid crescent
#

For a normal avatar, there's no reason to have multiple meshes

median basalt
#

My avatars usually have 2-3 materials

umbral reef
#

Cats can do it for you

vocal shard
#

I realised 2-3 days ago that I can separate it by having a texture

#

So I do that now but before I would use separate bodies to have different shaders etc on different parts

safe yacht
#

Because reporting is a chore. You have to gather evidence and put it in an email.

median basalt
#

We need better ingame moderation tbh

safe yacht
#

I just want these twats to get slapped on the hand so they behave.

median basalt
#

The biggest issue right now is the logout modified clients though

safe yacht
#

I mean if mods just played th game theyโ€™d see all this shit themselves. It wouldnโ€™t be difficult.

vocal shard
#

Honestly I prefer to be loged out rather then crashed

ivory folio
#

just email support 4Head

true sky
median basalt
#

I think you would be disappointed though, it's not against any rules to have particles or sounds on your avatar

true sky
#

where there is literally too many skinned meshes

rigid crescent
#

that one gave me the sweats

vocal shard
#

OMG i saw this

#

I wanted to cry

rigid crescent
#

You think mods don't play the game Dream?

median basalt
#

It made me convulse

topaz panther
#

A material lays a texture onto a vertex group on a mesh. So really you just need your mats to be assigned to the proper vertex groups and your mats can have several textures on them depending on the shader properties.

true sky
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guess they forgot to merge the materal at 1st then saw it was on purpose when 47 avatars had over 1k dynamic bones

median basalt
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The mods play the game but there's not enough of them. I have literally never seen a moderator ingame, and I hang out in public quite a bit. It doesn't help if all of your mods are only active during US working hours

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I think materials are based on faces, not vertices

topaz panther
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1 mesh.. up to 10 mats.. a few dyn bones and your good

rigid crescent
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I use spheres on my shader, so I typically separate my atlases into 3 things. Hair, Cloth, and "Shinies"

warm tapir
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hello

rigid crescent
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and Skin

true sky
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cant have a problem with 1 mesh, 1 material, 1 dynamic bone

topaz panther
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I call them vertex groups bc thatโ€™s how I unwrap

true sky
rigid crescent
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Then from there on I branch out to stuff that I might want specialized. Usually eyes. I've been hitting 7 max on a normal avatar

vocal shard
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I need 2xhair, face, transparent texture, normal texture, left eye, right eye

safe yacht
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Mods shouldnโ€™t be seen, thatโ€™s what helps catch people.

topaz panther
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I like using an additive sphere on eyes

vocal shard
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And then you have metals

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wait, ur using seperate meshes for all of that?

rigid crescent
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What.......

true sky
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i wonder if i should do optimized mmd avatars that are 1 material ๐Ÿค”

vocal shard
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Yeah I know I am converting my avatars to materials

safe yacht
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Dunno if Iโ€™m at 1000 hours yet but Iโ€™ve never even heard of mods being in game.

rigid crescent
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Both eyes can go on one. Hair can go no one.

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Mods are ingame quite literally every day

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they're regular players with friend groups just like you or anyone else lol

safe yacht
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Weird how nothing happens then...

vocal shard
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Both eyes can't go on one as they are two different colours

rigid crescent
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Atlas your textures and they can.

vocal shard
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Hair uses would textures

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2

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theres a blender plugin, u can combine the 2 dif textured materials into 1 and use 1 material for both eyes

true sky
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its ez to do to an mmd model

safe yacht
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I guess they don go to public worlds. Or donโ€™t think itโ€™s a problem and just want us all to block or hide the avatars of the disruptive people, instead of actually punishing anyone. Which would render the trust system meaningless if all you can do is gain trust.

true sky
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you can do it to any model

rigid crescent
median basalt
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@vocal shard you seem to misunderstand texture atlasing

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You ONLY need a new material if you are changing the shader. In your case, you could get away with 2 materials. One for everything, and another material for the transparent parts.

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If you want the eyes to be two different colors, turning them into separate materials is not a bad idea, but you still gotta atlas after that.

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To merge them again.

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Turning them into separate materials allows you to put them into different places on the UV map so you can actually have two different colors

vocal shard
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What does atlasing do then Think

median basalt
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It bakes all of your textures into one texture

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There's an automatic tool for it even

vocal shard
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But some of my textures aren't in blender

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I use different textures for body and face

true sky
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you can import them in blender

vocal shard
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As I said I just started

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And I realised that I can use mats rather then bodies I started using that

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It's not like I purposely do it

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I'm just new to this Lynshrug

true sky
vocal shard
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Thank you yay

novel fog
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when your vrchat gets timed out, is that because you was kicked from the world or just a shitty pc?

true sky
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usually network related

elfin plank
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Doesnt "timed out" usually mean no response from the server in most games

true sky
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yes

novel fog
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ok thx

graceful timber
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"I have a dream, where users on VRChat will not be divided by the color of thier nametags, but by the content of their character"

topaz panther
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I have a dream where shit like that isnโ€™t copied and pasted over and over

graceful timber
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Do you have an opposition

umbral reef
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Emailing them and or making a canny.io post?

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Aka the stuff where they take feedback and actually read this stuff

graceful timber
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When did I say that I didnt email

umbral reef
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Depends what staff ๐Ÿ‘€

graceful timber
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The matter isnt wether the staff is doing there job or not

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It's that vrchat users are being divided by color. Doesnt that remind you of something ๐Ÿค”

topaz panther
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How I eat MnMs?

graceful timber
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No

rigid crescent
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lol this classic convo ๐Ÿ‘Œ

topaz panther
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CMYK wide format print process?

umbral reef
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That im not color blind?

graceful timber
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Haha

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Let me guess your a known user / trusted user so it doesnt bother you because your on top and you get off to that.

rigid crescent
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to be perfectly honest, I'd hide my color al lthe way down to visitor if i could, just to prove a point

vocal shard
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The only users I have muted is visitor

rigid crescent
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Got off to that? nani?

vocal shard
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Everyone else is avatar shown + unmuted

topaz panther
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Im just a regular old user.. kind of a really easy rank to get

rigid crescent
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I have an alt that's new user that I like to get on to get to just "get away"

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im on it almost every other day and only go to publics, ive got no friends added on it intentionally

graceful timber
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The only people who would oppose a one color for all rule in a non competitive environment are Trusted users.

ruby burrow
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What's the reason for muting visitors? ._.

graceful timber
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You cant tell me one reason colors are important other than to flaunt it in everyones face

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It serves no purpose

topaz panther
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Idk.. maybe as a safety ranking system so that there is less cancer in your face to prevent new accounts from having malicious avatars that blow your face away

graceful timber
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I never said to get rid of the safety system

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He safety system is great

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But there is 0 purpose for the colors

sullen escarp
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colors make it less confusing

topaz panther
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How would you differentiate between the safety ranks if not with color?

vocal shard
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@ruby burrow they tend to be very toxic

graceful timber
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You dont

vocal shard
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If a friend is like they cool I unmute them

topaz panther
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That defeats the purpose of the safety ranking system

flint plume
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I remember the old days without the safety system

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It was pretty scary

graceful timber
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The only color change should be devs- friends

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If you already have your safety in place for certain ranks why do you need to see the color of the nametags other than to subconsciously discriminate low ranked users

safe marsh
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why u so mad? annoyed you can't annoy ppl with ur cancer avatars i guess?!

topaz panther
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Ah.. I see what your saying.. so everyone is green.. but their individual ranks are not visible

graceful timber
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Whay?

sullen escarp
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what if they added an option to turn the color displays of everyone on and off locally?

graceful timber
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Heartless you dont even know what's going on

safe marsh
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yas, im a clueless one

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brb crawling back under the rock

graceful timber
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Good. Nothing you have said so far is productive to the discussion in any way

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Dont oppose opposition I just oppose ignorance

safe marsh
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i'm fairly happy with the safety system c:

graceful timber
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Okay

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I'm saying that the safety system IS GOOD. LISTEN HEARTLEXX.

safe marsh
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VRChat has been a much more pleasing experience.

graceful timber
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ITS THE NAMETAG COLORING THAT IS AN ISSUE

sullen escarp
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the only reason why i like having colors shown is for testing purposes

rigid crescent
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I play with nametags off :3

safe marsh
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write in bold, i can read it better

sullen escarp
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otherwise, i agree that colors should be hidden

safe marsh
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well, i usually have name tags hidden lol

graceful timber
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That's not the issue

rigid crescent
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muh draw calls

graceful timber
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User will still have a rank. Just not visible

safe marsh
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and what's the matter with the rank then

rigid crescent
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he doesn't like the colors showing

graceful timber
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So if the user is A NEW USER They will be the same color as everyone else. Just thier avatar features will be hidden

topaz panther
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Some elitists do discriminate between colored tags.. but I feel itโ€™s exceedingly rare

graceful timber
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Or if you are trusted

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You will be the same color as a new user. You will just have more avatar features shown

safe marsh
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the things ppl tend to pick on never ceases to amaze me

flint plume
rigid crescent
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it is pretty rare, my alt account is still new user

safe marsh
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i like the colors c: it's nice knowing who is older and more experienced and stuff

graceful timber
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You are trying to make it seem as if it isnt a problem at all. To keep peoples attention off it.

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Let me guess

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Trusted User? @safe marsh

safe marsh
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Listen here, i am not trying anything, i like it, that's my opinion, you don't have to agree.

graceful timber
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Okay

rigid crescent
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The amounto f problem it is is very insignificant.

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OH and spoiler: I have my name set to trusted literally all the time

iron seal
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tbh if people are elistist about their ranks they were never worth talking to anyway

rigid crescent
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LOL im mean user

safe marsh
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And no, i am a green youngling, and never felt descriminated or anything, now if u gona be one of those that run around being abnoxious and what not and thinking u are funny looking for 'the wae' then you do you.

rigid crescent
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that slip lmao. I have it set to User almost all the time

graceful timber
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Oh my god

sullen escarp
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LOL

graceful timber
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Your'e so ignorant

rigid crescent
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"Let me guess, a TRUSTED user eh?"

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"No I'm green."

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"W-W-What?! N-No you're....you're just ignorant!"

vocal shard
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I don't care what rank you are (except visitor ) if you being a tw*t you get blocked no matter what colour

tacit plank
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Trusted is nothing impressive

sullen escarp
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yeah @graceful timber why you discriminating against us trusted users

rigid crescent
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you shouldn't care about visitor either lol

tacit plank
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So it doesn't feel different to have it

graceful timber
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I didnt say she was ignorant because she was green

iron seal
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i just have escalation of privaliges for ranks personally

umbral reef
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I dont care what you are as im open! But if your new and still learning this game i dislike you!

median basalt
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@topaz panther my experience has proven otherwise. It's not rare

rigid crescent
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yeah, nearly all my friend's list is trusted

safe marsh
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i treat everyone equally, actually i like to pay attention to grey ones since sometimes they even have questions and stuff.

median basalt
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Heck, people are using the trust system as a means to just block all visitor avatars due to performance reasons

tacit plank
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People would comment on it when they saw vets before that rank was removed, but about 50% of the users I meet are purple, so why would I feel that it's anything special?

topaz panther
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@tacit plank .. is have to disagree.. Trusted users usually put a lot of time and effort into the game

graceful timber
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Not everyone is like you

rigid crescent
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your experience as one person doesn't make it any more or less rare

vocal shard
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@rigid crescent I shouldn't but I had more then enough trouble with them

median basalt
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@rigid crescent tell that to Rehx then

small wing
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Anyone else constantly getting kicked to the log in screen?

neon flume
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I do always feel a little sad when after hours of talking to someone they add me as a friend and say "Oh! You glow?"

topaz panther
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@median basalt Iโ€™m sorry to hear that.. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rigid crescent
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LOL

median basalt
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Why is it that when people say "there is no elitism" you take them as gospel, but when I say "there is", you suddenly switch into "you have no proof, it's anecdotal!!"

tacit plank
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Trusted users are everywhere, they're the one I see the most

median basalt
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Not in public

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I mostly see a mix between visitor and known lately

iron seal
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trusted abusers more like!

rigid crescent
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Because there's more people that say they didn't experience than say they have?

frosty fog
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lmao this is so wrong

small wing
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Off to ask in another chat then

tacit plank
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I do in public too, but that's because my friend start the instance and their friends join on them