#vrchat-general-2
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now i see why avatars need to be optimized
it says world contains avatars with more than 2 dynamic bone colliders
but i know of an avatar world with atleast 10
120 dyn bone colliders holy fucking shit
i am wondering if someone forgot to merge the meshes or purposely seperated by loose parts
๐ค
Those regulations only effect worlds since a certain date. They were not regulated before @long venture
how the fuck do you even create 818 materials what
one for each hair strand
blender > seperate by loose parts > export > profit
then the scifi avatar world is screwd as their hair uses realistic gravity thus tons of colliders
did anyone else just get forced logged out
it happens in your world only.
Just as there is dedication for reducing the number of mats, there is dedication for making an avatar so unoptimized that even NASA's computer would start to cry.
Its a photon exploit.
pleasant
i wonder if its patched in new unity?
theres no reason for them to fix it for the current build, the new unity 2017 update is just around the corner.
guys we must think from another pov
he might really be a blender and unity newbie
and forgot to merge all the meshes
yeah
when i dont merge meshes i also create 818 materials and 10k dyn bones + 180 colliders
Umm.. I don't think the same way
but the dynamic bone count of 10643 GOSH
how does one do that
now im at the cusp of time where i should go to bed, now they im free of vrchat, but i also got forcibly ejected, so i feel cheated out of more fun times
the 180 colliders are so much worse
180 colliders are a sign of "on purpose"
Now that is no longer a newbie mistake
Why do you even need that many for
how the fuck does a model even have so many fucking bones
or maybe he just wanted to model out a 1:1 monalisa with colliders
troll?
subdivide the bones
put dyn bone script on hips
create empty game object set as collider for the hips dyn bone script
duplicate that game object
its called โซNi co - ํโฅ
My left arms consists of 1k bones
beats me who made that
The human body is made up of 206 bones, mind you
left arms
OH MY GOD
i wonder if it's one of those japanese guys that are still upset for legacy animation
the last word means home in korean
so nico home ?
what
Some of those bones were formed from the extra bones that merged during childhood
Its not even like, one avatar having high meshes, one high dyn bones no, HE HAS ALL THOSE NUMBERS IN THE SAME BAD AVATAR https://i.imgur.com/AmfT1pC.png
where did you get this from
in the sheet theres a url in the end
Hot diggity damn
he purposely made a lag machine
he should get banned for 1 month tbh
all the avatars are named nico
so im guessting the persons name isNi co
Late but wasn't sci-fi fixed?
Doesn't he sound like the same guy who made the avatar with 23,187 total dynbones?
Dunno.. Shrug
do you ever just see a nice dynamic bone and ask the creator if he could share with you and instead he slapped a 100eu price on it
No lol
no but i see people sleeping in vr and i tell them to go to bed but they dont >:C
only to find out the dynamic bones has been provided somewhere as public info
jufo
Sleeping in vr how can people even
i fell asleep once but my body hurt after lul
yes what seam?
@glossy wharf they probably are in bed
can you give hotox a hug jufo
let me rephrase, i tell them to take their headset off and get proper sleep
wants hug
them = me
Well
If he wants one sure
literally shana
i do that with everyone though, when i see someone that seems drunk or like they boutta pass out i walk up and try to help
sai's good human
Hotox
im far from that 
You mean dragon, Sean?
gets hugged
sai good dragon!
Thanks 
make ruubick regret his words
^^Nps
im not a good dragon either 
whats sai then
Pretty much a cunt would fit
wait we are insulting sai
?! Time to join
Ruubicks asleep, chat randomly now
I can be nice but im usually memey and sarcastic, also eat my ass oclac
he will
ofc, hes lewdlac
You eat me ass sai
oclac you finally have her permission
uhhh gotta go
Damn btw holy shit
the other day i saw 2 guys erp in a fucking couch and that couch was a player
fucked up
also 1 more with the same shit just a bench instead jesus
IN PUBLIC
Today on things i definitely didnt want to know but people tell me anyway
@queen mango thanks for being concerned about the chat, appreciated
Also hotox if you want hugs just play Vrchat ๐
Umm.. You're welcome..
Too busy summoning cats
play VRCHAT with us hotox >:C
We demand a Hotox play date >:O
Hotox in vrc just gonna pull out his ui and crash everyone by pressing fix lobby
lol
Nah he joins and all unoptimized avatars just get auto banned
LOL

wait oclac have i ever met you in vrchat?
Yea you have
Cats dev. Doesn't use CATS branded avatars
am i cool
I join and all unoptimized avatars get optimized. Much more wholesome
Where do you guys usually hang out?
because i've never met anyone here that's active in the chat and ive been here 6 months now ๐ค
-usually in the pug-
same, pug
public pugs too
mostly im in battlediscs again atm, been practicing with spryt again
funny how we never met
When i play im in pug or any instance of battle disk that isnt just 3 people afk
Hi
Oclac fight me
-pokes manus-
Oi sai fuck off mimicking me me
Im always in Japan Shrine/Sakura Hiroba Yoru
or in private lobbies with friends
Im calling the cops
you literally wrote after me cunt
no wonder i haven't met you guys
jufo only sits in the box to get crashed
Seeing me online is like finding a shiny pokemon
private ๐คข
I been reusing battle disk longer then you tho
Why poke me
b/c a shiny bat doesnt count
i dont go to any weeb maps anymore cause its usually just koreans, japanese people and weebs trying to fit in
Hey
Sven
stfu
i only do it because of my friends are there
Friends of friends or friends only instances to be more correct
Rayquaza
i mostly world hop a lot of pugs to find a grou thats actually having a convo and not just some screamers
I hop around worlds a lot
your friends suck
no uno
get them out of those private lobbies
Oh noo.. Svel, wat are you doing?!
But I do tend to be either in the pug or some sort of hotspring world
come get crashed in public pugs like everyone else
Dude ive had so much more fun in the game again going to publics, fuck private worlds
Svel throwing punches
U mean logged out
oH No I GoT lOGGed ouT
I've only been crashed, like, three times
Getting logged out is trendy at the mo
just literally log back in jesus.
privates do get boring after a while
And iirc I have 400+ hours
ive been crashed so fucking often cause i was on the desync kos list before the safety system came in place
I never actually go to private worlds
im never fucking with herpu again dude.
herpu 
Holy! Not the person to mess with
Sai- Gotta do it like me
Make plenty of peeps pissed off within VRchat but never play
Cant bully me if i aint playing
but its literally my life 
Maybe we should get a donkey for you so you calm down
okay brother, you just crossed the line
never fucking with what
No sherk refrences?
never fuck with herpu
^
Herpu what?
now that you said that oclac
i'm surprised that nobody targeted me in-game from all is said in this discord
@umbral reef i fucking hate shrek
herpus
sai add me in vrchat
I don't understand how y'all get crashed so much
but why
Oh.. no. ๐คข
Am I just lucky?
@vocal shard Thing is- most peeps here are not that special of a Vrchat players
They are another type of special
No you just havent played in the times where there were no safety features and crashers were a daily thing
@karmic talon
we very special
neither were you on any KOS List.
I did play during those times so
Kos list?
you have 400 hours i highly doubt it.
kill on sight
Kick On Sight
wait, am i mistaking herpu for someone else ?
isnt he like a kid that want attention but is basically a oxygen stealing retard ?
Oh
I took a massive break during the time the game still had a medieval hub
No, kill
Yea crasher groups had kill on sight lists to just crash certain people
Krash on site 
Not gonna mention krash with a k? Ok buddy
Yes
ive only been crashed a few times, but it was mostly in the pug and presentation room
Im honest to god amazed it took this long really for KoS lists to happen and botting for it to happen ๐
N8 being special again
Krash is a joke
kkkrash
But site
krash bandicoot

The whole thing was the joke ๐ค
๐ค
fr I've been on vrchat for a long time, just don't play much
๐ค
You are a joke
not a very good one either

i think im gonna make a map.

Nemy emote ๐ค
you pervert
no
It's still exists
who's nemy?
Literally seen him twice 
Old friend of mine that quit vrc
oh ok
O
Got full body and gone missing 
Oi- I just noticed someone sneaked out
@ocean bramble Well- By this one you are forced invited to my 1 year VRC part 
Its this Saturday, better play then or il become a dog fan ๐ก
uh oh
@inner cape they got a new acc and just lewd peeps now ๐
wait this saturday just was your one year?
ye
I have him on steam and discord, he plays other games
so what worlds does it have live-streaming support? (YT. Twitch .etc)
ive been playing longer then yuo xD
i wanted to do a live reaction of the game awards in VRChat
Well- Year with VR on this acc. Gotta say it like that
Played the game a few weeks earlier but eh- that doesnt count
ok
you can check steam
Where at
one second let me check again
Oooof, I am exposed
anyone?

does anyone know what worlds have live-streaming (YT. twitch .etc) support in VRChat?
go to steam, click on your name in the top right, account details, license history @inner cape
@umbral reef you need to remind me about this
I will ~~hopefully ~~
Can I do it on the website? Can't check on pc rn
Hashire sori yo
Nani kore?
Weeb language
NO
weeb language best language
FOR FUCKS SAKE
i started nov 2, 2017, you find it in steam by going to account details, view licences and product key, and look down the list for vrchat @inner cape
oh no
A friend of mine used to chase me with that shit little loli avatar last year from december till february

That's a nice date it turns out
Padoru Padoruu!
why did I click
I started on 30th of December
late boi
Till February? wtf
Right before new year
july 17
yes n8
Sai- thats when you buy a crash gun and do the act ๐
Oh you can see when you first started vrchat?
@vocal shard fuck you cunt
first downloaded the game manus

O
I started in September 2017
ofof
yea my excuses I only have a slight case of the dumb
started around youtube, got jealous and bought vr
i never watch vrchat videos
YouTube 
i dont see the point in it
i found out about ths game from the monster girl island discord
Just looking through one VRChatter's perspective
wait, am i the oldest player ? nopls
Probs
When did you start Sve?
yes daddy
july 17
Its time for me to make a new account and be cancer on there Kappa
2017?
hope you got ur
Damn.. Even got the day on point
grey rank at least
i played rarely, i went full apeshit with the game in spetember
july 17th 2017, yes jufo
I started September 17 2017
damn
known user btw
Trusted boiiiiiiiis
Trusted user btw
fkn pleb
known user, ex trusted user is me
I get to celebrate 1 year of vrc and then new year right the next day, that's neat
How much do you play? Hours?
Don't talk me sve ur a pleb reee
"NotLikeThis"
Only User here
i have like 700h+
830hrs
I'll rename myself to grey pleb someday
I started december last year and I'm on 1660
im boutta hit 1.4k
oh, i started dec 7th 
cant even play that day
Nyaaoww.. Tfw when you are on 480 hours and still a User rank
4 hours off 1.4k
400 of them on a Steam account... Kind of dumb of me
rip my veteran dude
I started playing active in June as i got vr
I had 50 hours before that so i've piled up 780 hours in 6 months
i was trusted till i delted like 90% of my friendlist xD
I have the vet API tag though
Rip n8 
Nani Elire
before steam merge came i had 350-400 hours on my vrchat account and i was known
2 Avatars uploaded and 1 world (private)
n a n i
Mfw locked out my Steam account
lol
Huh, seems I started on december 27th
Where can u find out?
account detail, license in steam
Is literally everyone here started on 2017?
Thought it was sooner. I probably played a lot when I first installed it, because I had at least 50 hours played and a group of friends by new year
I just checked my first Screenshot, taken about 2 minutes after the tutorial ended
i dont do pictures lol
Think I was December time
... semi active
im always semi active
@glossy wharf 
December was when it had its first big gain
300-1700 players
If I had a vr headset I'd play a lot more
But I don't have a pc that supports it rn
April was when I first got into VRChat. Back then, Knuckles was still around.
And was still a little awkward with socializing
I remember the times without the knuckles
@vocal shard remember when you followed me around with your shitty small christmas avatar singing that weeb christmas song
i hate you so fucking much i swear to god.

Padoru? 
i wanna meet aery now
@vocal shard gotta do it againt this year man
HASHIRE SORI YO
KAZE NO YO NI
TSUKIMIHARA WO
Padoru Padoru
been playing OW
PADORUUUUU
fuck off get back in vrc and make low poly world
XD
Oml I just remembered
at least send me your unpublished world files so i can upload it
i'm working on one as well
i remember that song now thanks to several people
singing it
all the time
fuck
ghosto, why do you seem familiar
atm
People had to go to the damn avatar corridor for public avatars in the past
im still waiting for the low poly assets you wanted to send me
RaaaAaaa im getting into a music mood again
<.<
And i still have to eat even though it just surpassed midday
oclac, go play the sai
its always time for music
low poly assets OMEGALUL

Fairly sure the second i get close to sai il be killed
good
you sent me that western pack but you said you have more @vocal shard
inb4 you go 10k polys but put 20 materials on it
but you sent me the dumb allegorithmic page twice instead
i sail the seven seas for most stuff
You'll be met by a sans theme and a desktop alien
the only thing you sail is your lovers asscheeks


isnt a bad thing tho
Has anyone seen my in vrchat here?
Im curious because i haven't seen anyone
I have the model from Toga's world miku snow outfit + alicia model but it's an upgraded version of it that's not public so it looks a little different, without the guns and with finger emotes instead
๐ค
do i LOOK like i go to avatar worlds
Oclac added me but i've never met him lmao
Don't seem to meet the people that are active here
I think this dude never leaves avatar worlds
Yes u do
i dont go to avatar worlds lol
๐ค i dont think so, you said youre mostly in japan shrine right?
Me? Redfrag
no that was elire
nein
i use my own models
Yeah i am N8
I really want to start making my own models for vrchat, but headset goes first
-pays others to make them-
I got this model from Toga
so it's unique in that aspect but i didnt make it
isnt toga from an anime?
Nah much more fun figuring how to do it ur self
Bnha yes but he is also a creator in vrchat
i dont know him then
Think he meant Himiko Toga from BHA
T
ga
Damn he is pretty popular though
i dont follow popular people, so idk any popular people
t o g a
You know oclac tho
is he popular?
yes he is
among his friends
You also know Jamie
1k members on discord and has some of the best avatars imo
like a 2 star monster that can only go up to 3 stars

jamies popular?

i thought he was just a pet
Yeah the newer avatars is really good -IMO-
ive seen toga a couple times, he used to sit in his own avatar world just kinda, being around
T
G A
Yeah he does it to interact with people i thinkz
wont say for sure though
I feel like im missing out on some memes here
Didnโt their world get ๐ for not being optimised or am I thinking of subcom
well, anyways i dont find popular people b/c idc about ppularity
i dunno, honestly i thought he was a prop when i saw him there 
Yeah probably a meme about Toga idk what though

toga and his beautifully optimized avatars
pretty sure his world got taken down for being unoptimized a few times
absolutely not annoying when you have a bunch of desktopper spamming loud AF particles
i can still imagine that specific sound effect
oh wait, only known person i know is cubed and evolved ant, b/c i was friends with them
That's why you have the block avatar feature 
and mimi
Was it that shield power-up sound effect?
blocking reee
or just the safety system shit
the one on that electric ball thing
at some point everyone was using those avatars
i don't want to block half the room
what's the point
I do agree some of his avatars are obnoxious with loud sounds
I should test this new Unity version in the beta when I have the time
thats why i prefer using my own avatars, i dont wanna be something everyone is
#feature-requests aoe block
Also, beta user counter when?
Sean, your avatar doesn't have hands
But quality wise and not considering the annoying sounds i think the avatars are really good imo
and he is a pretty cool guy
you talk about it all the time
ik lol
~~ cant even pet ghost with the avatars~~
dont need controllers if u got no hands
i mean whats the quality of some ooka mikos and kannas with props added to them
i do need controller though red
I've been here for a long time and you've talked about it a lot
literally everyone has a kanna, hoppou or miko edit
how else am i going to hold the puppet up for it to talk
wasnt kanna taken down at some point
not kanna, kanna gang
@glossy wharf I don't 
i dont have any of those said
@twin jacinth I can tell.. Encountered him once when I was hanging around with another guy who likes traveling 'round worlds
Neither
Have you seen the recent avatars Sai?
@inner cape you dont even make your own avatars, let alone make anything not edgy.
pepe gang when

when you were having a simple fun and then the servers decided to yeet
Yeah i had some problems with my avatar which i 1 got for free because of a competition and he even upgraded it, after that i talked with him for a while and he showed me some dope but cancer avatars xD
@queen mango
Pepe gang wonโt last long
Since when do I not make stuff
Also, I didn't know the screen shakes when you try entering your comment while on slowdown..
80% of your avatar is done by someone else????
Jesus, Discord. Calm down!
A coat and the hands
all my avtaars are done by someone else
That's not 80%
same
oh mmd
mmd are easy to work with
svel go back to caps
I mean, yours is a tera armor on a base
https://puu.sh/CcKIK/5874586371.png when your shoes are 10k tris but too cute to decimate
Say.. Redfrag, you know how to use Unity?
mine is tera armor i ripped, rigged edited on a base i rigged edited and textured
ur trolling ghosto
im calling the cops mic
call the police, they can't unlag you
You don't know what I did to the model to shittalk me like that
I know ue4 better but as far as avatars go I have done sum stuff
theyy can
Leave me alone
sai jelly of ghosto
just takes one bullet 
You literally told me its just a base you had what do you mean LOL
I tried to make a world a while back but now i've stopped with it because i need to learn blender to create custom buildings
tried avatars as well but man fuck
stopped with both
tupper can pry my shoes from my cold banned corpse
That's probably too petty. Try calling the police when someone is tempted to lewd me.
i remember trying to make a world, but i got bored real quick
you enjoy being lewded so 
I don't have full body so i can't flex how cute and shiny they are ingame but one day i will
mic nobody will be able to see them anyways, you gonna block everyone before you have fbt
Hehe.. I guess so..
Nyaa
mic let me share with you my fbt
Yeah if you guys see me I'll block you if you want, so you dont feel left out
just move here
i didnt get bored i actually worked on it for 2 weeks straight lol
got pretty far
also if you're not using a shader that allows sphere maps but have an MMD then your avatar is bad
fight me
the hell is sphere maps?
mic do you have the pic still of all block buttons
Sphere maps?
you don't have FBT, mic ? i'm disappointed
Cubemaps maybe
im confused but ok
toon maps
I have FBT but its a pain
in
the
ASS to set up
i too have fbt, but none of my avatars are rigged for it
used it 3 times in 3 months 
they're sphere maps nani
Ahhhh them. Never had a shader that could use em
Oof.. How so?
I always see them called that, but that might be an MMD thing
How is FBT even set up?
you snap the avatar in half and glue it back together
Any need for additional software?
Or turn on a Kinect
toons are the little squares arent theY?
i thnk he ment for rigging
kinect 
I use 15-20 mins to make it fit because everytime i enter the last settings dont work
so ye
It ainโt great but it does the trick for the price
nice color names
yea except when you actually move or sit down 
Sitting down is fairly fine for me
<.<
I'd rather have wireless vr tbh than fbt
fbt with kinect just sucks ass compared to the trackers
me too. 2x2m playing space yay
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
altho I expanded and its 2x3.5 now
Agreed thatโs why Iโm setting up trackers I got yesterday this weekend
big nice, ive had them for a while but i put my controllers back up cause i hate vive wands
same
gonna use mixed setup when i move rooms into a bigger room next year
Hate vive so Iโm using the oculus setup
the vive is so fucking trash
lululul
its so uncomfortable on the head and the wands are so garbage
when you hate vive so much you use the kinect
and the mic placement is so horrible
i might just move back to oculus, not sure though b/c idk how to mix
wait, vive has a mic?
Im happy with the vive
yes
it has a mic but no headphones
yes and its on the lower side so you always hear vive users breathe into their mic like animals
it has earbuds
lol im push to talk
it has super shitty earbuds
they're good to me imo
So fullbody tracking needs no additional software?
Donโt wana touch vive controllers with the horror stories harry has had with their support
weird, when I compared I was pretty sure it didnt, hence I went with oculus aside from controllers
i just hate the wand and the lenses
Not to mention they look like something you could stick inside of you
I don't launch through Steam home thing, I just launch VRChat directly from Steam
the vive has a nice camera but like, still
U want a place space mover software
you need a playy space fixer if you do mixed setup but theres a lot of automated stuff now that makes it super easy to apply profiles
sai, how difficult is it to do mixed?
Software usually breaks when I touch it, so I just want to make sure that I don't need any new software if I do buy trackers
theres a tutorial by artsy on the reddit
It's just regular vive
Yeah thatโs what Iโve been looking it at. Just need my wall mounts and Iโm good to go
... thats a text tutorial, ill never make it
7 usb ports lul
text tutorials are way to difficult
how are the trackers even attached
Got extra ports coming tomorrow probably
they on a wire too?
for the fbt?
^
no they're wireless
All this VR talk is making me wanna buy WMR for Christmas
no elire
Buy oculus
Wmr lul
But that's what I can afford for my laptop and for my budget
How does Steam know you're trying to use FBT? It's not on the list of symbols when I start VRChat, so I assume I need to tell it somewhere
ugh brb, gotta make some email accounts
@tacit plank you pair the trackers like you pair your controllers
sounds fun
then you turn the trackers on like you turn on your wands by pressing the menu button on them
caffeine, you go in game with all the trackers on, and vrchat recognies it
Ah, maybe I will wait until I have a better room for it, things near the floor has poor tracking for me
thats what im doing rn, waiting for a better room
My playspace also floats 15cm above the floor.. i think the maximum height is 2 meters? My lighthouses are about 2.2m above ground
Dude,, WMR is all I can afford for this
wmr hmm
save money
Save up more. Oculus is defo worth it
wait is that why the floor is higher up?
because of the lighthouse being to high up on the wall?
fuck
@near saffron My laptop isn't fit for Oculus
Rly?
why not wmr, just curious
didnt even hear about it before getting here
heartlexx love meeeee
What owo
Ahhhh fair enough then
It's a guess, I'm not sure
love meh
This sortware is not very stable yet I think
steamvr is very very stable
Iโm probs gona need to upgrade my pc with all the sensors and shit hanging out
does wmr have decent controllers
I dunno.. Haven't even got my hands on them.
also wmr is using lcd displays hmm
my laptop is vr able but i dont think that would be a good idea
Colorful, but also introduces some light bleed, as far as the reviews said
My game didn't launch properly at first. That compositor thing wouldn't work.
And sometimes, I can't use my computer while in VR because the compositor will go away from fullscreen mode... But only sometimes. Other times it works.
It doesn't feel stable and I'm afraid to have to mess around with it again
thats because you are on windows 7
those controllers lul
Now that you mention it.. Probably
its like a mix between oculus and vive
you use an outdated OS
Bad software*
No, an outdated unsupported OS
The OS doesn't stop working because time passes, people are just bad at writing proper software.
Support just ended for XP, but it's a little early to ditch Win7
No people are not developing their software for outdated systems. There is no reason to
It's not outdated yet, and making something which works on both shouldn't be too difficult
yea honestly nowadays as far as support goes you can count on win8 onwards, but win7 is 50/50
new hardware gens are not supported on windows 7, vr runs good on new hardware, there is literally 0 reason for them to waste resources on an old OS just because some tech idiots dont upgrade their systems.
You choose to stay out of date and you want to use new technology with it, its no ones fault but yours if things dont work properly on an unsupported OS.
it is difficult
the more we deviate from older versions the harder it becomes to support them after all
-pats okano-
A lot of people hate Windows 10 with good reasons, it's just not a good product.
The beautiful thing about programming is that whatever you make should work on most machines. If I do some javascript, it will work on Linux, mac, Windows, and pretty much every browser made in the past 10 years
using older APIs but still needing newer ones that improves everything, you're going to be doing work twice.
you cant compare js to os specific programming
I guess drivers are just a hell to work with though
once again you prove you have no idea what you are talking about.
just get win10 modded to win7
js is a terrible example
C then. It will run on anything made in a 40 year span
also you havent used win 10, you are in no place to judge the OS, you showed multiple times you dont even know any of the differences, just drop it caff.
nottttt exaaactly
C depends
I have used Windows 10 multiple times, it's horrible
run sure, be compatible, hellll no
Caff- Your comparing cars to airplanes right now...
Almost 2019 and ppl still using crappy old outdated os. Oh my.
it doesnt magically run on everything
you have to redo the code depending on the architecture
Not really, theres lots of os specific variables and functions that are utilized and are different on different kernels and versions on windows.
for example sockets are done different ways in windows and linux
which leads to branches
It's just code. Windows 10 and Windows 7 install the same shitty C++ libraries to clog the "installed programs" list, right? There's no reason to break anything unless you're intentionally forcing people onto Windows 10
one day std::networking
most stuff is compatible from vista to win 10 cause its the same kernel still, but still stuff gets deprecated and new things get made, thats the beauty of software, its not bound to stay shit, it can evolve and be updated.
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std::networking shud be here in like 2021 or so
Umm.. What did I just come back to?
std::filesystem here already
O.o
You come back to a once again misinformed caffeine that blames steamvr for not working properly on his outdated system.
c++20 is going to change the world boyos
can we just drop it?
We all know caff doesnt understand tech this deep and refuses to accept or learn it
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oh hewwo
true honestly, we have seen multiple times caffeine has no understanding of these topics.
Windows 7 is not outdated yet
just run into the wall as it saves e effert
it is, new hardware gens are not supported and support is already dropping caffeine.
mean
Caff- Your confusing the worlds Still supported and Outdated
My hardware is supported
7 is still supported
Its not up to date
dw technically you can run win95 on an i9 I bet
i swear to god calling you a retard isnt even an insult because you have your head so far up your ass it nearly comes out the top again
SteamVR is doing a shitty job supporting it though
You are running dated hardware on a dated os, your hardware might be supported by your os but NEW HARDWARE ISNT and fucking that is what im saying
you know what made me really sad
I heard of OVRDrop... Dunno how it improves VR performance, tho
thats where you can tell your os is outdated
SteamVR is software though
im done
This person is not capable of adding one and one together if it was right in front of them
T R I G G E R E D
The "make compositor fullscreen" button even works to fix the issue if I accidentally minimize it... But only once. Then it doesn't work anymore, and I have to restart
The fucking windows dudes themself have said windows 7 is outdated caff
Tell me that it's not due to bad code, lol
Microsoft: Windows 7 in 2017 is so outdated that patches can't keep it secure
Caffeine: no windows 7 is not outdated hur dur
Because they want everybody on Windows 10, isn't that obvious? They even forced people into betatesting their shit, breaking peoples installations
why waste time on win7.
Adobe did it even better, why waste time on anything below win10.1805
im gonna get an aneurism talking to this dense motherfucker i swear
Lmao
Microsoft just don't want to make it secure
โToday, (Windows 7) does not meet the requirements of modern technology, nor the high security requirements of IT departments,โ Markus Nitschke, head of Windows at Microsoft Germany
talk to me instead and just lose faith in people learning nouns
Yeah why would they keep updating a system they dropped support for and that has multiple new versions making it outdated
They suck at security in general, Internet Explorer has been a main target for malware for many years now
dw you always have the good version of windows 10 called LTSB
microsoft is building a new browser based on chromium
your argument is invalid and you literally just proved that constantly improving software makes sense
Yes, they are dropping edge.
I know what Microsoft has to say. Microsoft are just not good at designing security or software. They lack competition so they just throw out crap for us
damn I liked edge for reading pdfs
BLINK + V8 RISES AGAIN
Caff- So if they suck at it
it was about time to be fair
actually edge wasnt so bad. Explorer though.........
windows native electron when
(please die UWPJS)
project name is anaheim @safe prism
Why would they not make a easier to update windows with the cutting edge tech? Ow wait a fucking second :o
They did! and its called windows 10!
Time to move.
ADVERT
Okay.. #general-media, people
im back hi
we already moved on, its me and okano talking about chromium based new browser
but yeah lets go #general-media
And hopefully, everything from here on stays at random chat.
Still not very VRChat related
Don't wanna know what happened that day with Ruubick and those emote spam squads
Probably shouldn't be doing it if you know you'd be told to do that then, non?
if moderation here was consistent we would be able to predict that, non?
-hugs the advert- what happened to acorn, advert
Tell those to the others.
Not like we are doing that advert--
So.. My usual time around in this Discord is around 2:30/4:00 AM until 10:00 PM/12:00 AM.
During the weekends, the start time can go from 6:00 AM to 8:00 AM
It's around there that the East Coast is apporaching nighttime.
9:30 AM - 5:30 PM is probably a deadzone where no mod seems to be active to monitor chat
If there is a possibility that I become a chat mod, I can fill in that gap
<.<
If u want mod just say gib role
You sure it's that simple?
There could be additional ties...
And yes, I know this seems quite sensitive of an issue to ask
zlp fig dom elor mi tif rof ti i esimorp
no jufo, they wont give

Easy to get in some discords
:(((
Sean, how'd you understand that?

i read it backwards
he's asking the mods to give role plz
promise i it for fit im role mod gif plz
see?
Welp.. What now? That time period is still gonna be a deadzone unless someone stands up for it
read it from left- right
plz gif me mod role im fit for it i promise
you mean right to left jufo
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Gib mod
give food!
Ok food would be nicer
Sigh.. Guess it's gonna be a hardpoint...
why do you even wanna be one

not gonna be able to put that on a resume
Or can you? 
Well, considering what happened during that time where the servers are borking, only Advert and Noe were around to try and moderate chat... The other VRChatters had to step in to guide the complainers to server status channels
hi, yes i chat mod of discord server,plz higher
I mean if you would apply as a cm somewhere experince with discord would be good
cm?
this fucking Sans model had 70k tris in his feet
community manager?
Ye
i dont think they'd allow that
since actually dealing with people irl is different from chat
It was a nightmare, I tell you... Public lobby chat was floodin' in with the same complaint... Gen chat was flooded with a squad spammin emotes.
Wdym alot of companys have cms that are mainly active on discord and social media
It's different but it's experience
You can gain a lot of experience from games that you can bring over to work life
Random chat is the only safe haven for us regulars.. And even then, the slowmode countdown was bumped to 30s that time.. I never seen anything like it
im thinking something more on the line of like telling people to follow rules and quiet down in a store or something
and the customer gets pissed and punch them
That is not the job of a cm but ok
it isnt?
No
it manages the people
No
Probably more than just that
Community Manager is the face of a company, managing communications in both directions. This digital-savvy employee is responsible for all communications, PR, social media, events, and content creation, among other things
Also, isn't a community manager part of the dev team?
No
Okay.. Part of the marketing team then?
Yes
community manager doesnt do any programming and such, it just talks and spreads information
Right...
But usually cms also tell devs what they want etc
What the people want...
Yeah
the people want more poly limit!
Also in some cases works on internal realtions
and the people want more discord emotes. let em know
I woukd like a slight bump to 25k
22k is a safer spot
Marketing and PR teams are dumb
imo 100k extra polys still not as expensive as 15 extra materials
"The intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment"
Oh noes.. Not them
I didn't leave
I know that since companies started going full marketing and PR, game quality has dropped to shit. Diablo immortal is another great example. Only an idiot would present such a program to diehard fans of diablo 1 and 2
Ugh.. My head hurts just thinking of that Monday.
@tacit plank pretty sure they were the producers but ok
Too be fair lorenz- most of what you said gets done
Chat mods have a better connection towards the dev and can report things easier
They get picked by senior chat mods (and i guess also normal chat mods) or atleast suggested and if they need a new one they get asked if they want it
Whatever, they're not gamers, that's for sure
@tacit plank what are you saying you don't have a phone?
@umbral reefmy stuff was not meant to be directed at vrc ma boi
also caff- PR and marketing has nothing to do with being hungry money bitches
Its mainly that CEO's noticed for EA earns money by giving out the same game and making millions
Lmao
And it just took some time for Blizard CEO's to start doing the same as they are a public owned company
Can the CEO do that if the rest of the company is against it though?
definitely the best channel to return to
I've heard about CEOs being fired before somehow
blizzard swapped out ceos multiple times afaik
I guess it's about shares and shit. Anyways, don't let people who have never touched a video game in charge of designing them
If they own the studio to 100% is what i meant
Or reviewing/judging them (polygon)
@tacit plank cm dont design the game ffs they relay information from zhe player base ro the devs
@gaunt scaffold If he owns 50+%
Hm
Community manager... Is DE Rebecca a good example?
Its why The Zuc owns facebook with just above 50% shares
He has all the say in it
And his shares are also worth more within votes then others
board of directors can remove a CEO
all it takes is majority vote of the board
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Somebody decided to make Diablo a phone game. Other people were convinced that people actually wanted this. Another group of people advertised and presented it. They were all wrong
Share holding is complicated so unless you actually know about it dont spread information about it...
The board can only remove a CEO if the CEO isnt on the board and doesnt have more then 50% voting share rights
Either way gtg back to work
He can have 20% natural shares and have 60% o the voting rights still....
Alright. Just pretend you didn't see any of this, Lorenz
we didnt see nuthin
it is far more complicated sure, but you're also mixing president with ceo
To be fair i barely know the english names for this stuff Okano- I know how it works but dont know the english names :')
How did it get from my topic to a discussion about marketing?
smug nod
Oi- what would be dope to see within VRC
well we migrated out of random because caffiene moved here
Lets get this chat on topic
and we're right back to needing to go back to random
@umbral reef
Anyone here has experience with EMS?
lets ping random people
Don't blame me for replying to my random comments
Dont ping me ๐
Its for sending packages around the world

@umbral reef
@umbral reef why not ?
Sometimes i can't access thes ite and it denies my request and sometimes it just says ok
getting a pack frrom Japan but hard to track it if i'm denied access to the tracking lol
I think oclac wants us to ping him. Lets help
Im calling the UK cops! Watch out! those guys go far for internet bullying!

Or il get advert to robit you all
ha, not so fast. Not before I post a pepe
I DaRe YoU
I don't think you can in this Discord
Yeah they dont like it apparently hatespeech or some stuff
It's a bad meme anyways
Oi dont give feedback about the mods or rules unless you mail them ๐
hatespeech just made it better
group used it for hatespeech
Bleh - pang pang
associated with hate speech
cant use it
It was never used for hate speech either
Milk is racist who remembers that
@queen mango
@gaunt scaffold ๐
Yes, Sean?
What I said
MilK`?
nani where was he from?
i just pressed enter on the first name that popped up after the @
A guy put it in a meme and some old woman got mad and wrote about it on her website
did you see that deleted beyonce picture? Damn they removed it fast

And the American media jumped on it because they're not neutral
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Yea..
But the media never understood the internet to begin with
wdym
Remember, I'm just 3 months in this Discord
It's a bit off topic, but nobody is fighting
fite me
Not right now- But in the past? Plenty has happened that never should have
Hmm... there had been more severe issues in the past?
Fight me reeee
okay im confused
I should stop looking at discord and code but i hate break Arguments in py
oof
I'm not totally sure, but has a moderator been active during the midnight and early morning hours?
midnight hours where
In this Discrod history, that is...
Depends- Not proactively atleast
Umm.. American Standard Time, Red
oh, no idea. But during my midnight hours for sure
It's like (very) early morning in the US right?
one question, "ghost feeling" in vrchat
what are your thoughs on it guys?
i got the vive 5 days ago after being in desktop for a year, and this monday i started to "feel" things
Never had it
dunno, i don't feel anything
ghost feeling? Like phantom touch?
kinda
sounds amazing tho
Only slight
Dunno what ppl talk boout it
the very immersed kind
Phantom feelings when your character or camera gets touched I guess
also this is the real name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror-touch_synesthesia
Is that why ppl erp lmao
exactly svelsien
ghost feeling is pretty cool
but creepy af as well
yeah, its weird, but so nice
I guess it is yourmind trying to protect you
Just think of it as a random person touching you
somewhere inappropriate
not good
good good
yeah, havent got that situation yet luckily XD
thats what I bought vr for
You don't notice people touching your leg for example unless you're looking towards it
By telling u hey i see something there but i dont feel it on the body
And I get stabbed in VRChat now and then, don't really mind it
uh, some friends of mine get a really bad feeling out of stabbing in vrchat
stabbing is bad
Yeah you have to see where they touch and that they actually do it
it's pretty nice when people pat you or hugs you
i dont want to reach that point






