#vrchat-general-2
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aight i hope no more ram-related crashes to you as soon as you got your swapfile activated
Network interruptions were caused by DDoS which they are doing a remarkably good job at mitigating.
did vrchat update the location where the cache goes or? cause its not going into my appdata no more its gone into the game files (not complaining cause its on a bigger drive)
Ah, so it is still on-going? That sucks
Ya thanks for the explaining. I have a CS degree and I should have known better 😦 makes me feel really stupid
oh ouch, right in the pride
Haha
yeah, i am in uni right now on a cs degree too
I always turn off swap on my linux machines and have been happy with the results except when dealing with NUMA multi cpu machines. Urgh
multi-cpu is it's own beast
k just ignore my question
@rocky blaze i have never heard of this. You can try making directory junctions or symlinks
not that i am aware of either
thank you
but still i dont really mind as its mixed in with the game files on a emptier drive
its always been %APPDATA%\..\LocalLow\VRChat
odd
can you maybe tell me where the actual path is for you now?
it would be curious to know what happened for you
its not appdata anymore its made its way into my vrchat folder where the game is installed
and that contians the HTTPCache too now?
yep
no idea why that would happen
well... httpcache-windows player
the http cache is usually in AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\VRChat\VRCHTTPCache
i have that too
Is it possible you created a junction or symlink in the past (maybe following some instructions)
It should show a shortcut arrowy thing on one of those levels if so
dunno
should be going for the folder i made for it to go to but yea it didn't
i know what to delete incase of emergency anyways so no problem
@umbral oracle oh ouch i think i did get out of memory problems
91% memory in use.
16321 MB physical memory [1448 MB free].
and i make sure to kill everything before playing
Still way better than me
this is another time: 97% memory in use.
16321 MB physical memory [450 MB free].
I wonder if vrchat or the video drivers are allocating hugepages or requesting large contiguous memory chunks. Also the free could include disk cache
Hey anyone know why the make home button isn't working?
Just worked for me two days ago. I usually do it for public worlds and the one I am currently in.
does anyone else get enjoyment out of making random stranges do squats and stuff with you
Random things VRChat people say #254
No u
That Vrchat moment when I have to hold out my hand until it gets tired because a cute tiny nanachi climbs onto me and starts nuzzling their face into my hand and I can't take my eyes off them.
Sounds like an epic gamer moment.
Has the game devolved so much that people do nothing but stare into a Mirror regardless of map? Yikes guys
Its mostly always been like that.
Crush my head between your thighs
ok
Woah
Encountered a user that tried to crash a public server by spawning in objects.
grab your output log if you can and send it to moderation@vrchat.com
@wild wadi When did you start playing?
Back in Jan/Feb/March/April people were socializing (more "physically" as in moving) and hanging out exploring new maps.
Now everyones just standing infront of a mirror regardless of world and mostly in private (invite only) maps. Its kind of boring. And everyones in some kind of pretend VR relationship.
Pug is broken for sure, get teleported to entrance alot
And it doesnt seem like the devs care much, its been a year an the state of the game has remained practically identical since the day I started playing.
the devs don't control how each worlds behave
the pug teleport you to the spawn if you have colliders on you
well, compared to the knuckles era things are better
@vocal shard which pretty much everyone with long hair does?
@delicate stump atleast then we had new people coming into the game, now everyone knows eachother it feels like
population has stabilized, new people are coming slower
that's bullshit for starters
also if you use colliders to prevent hair clipping, then it's useless and you are basically a lag machine
please check #avatar-optimization to learn ow that work
and i was talking about regular colliders not dynbone colliders
but they will keep coming
Theres always like 20 people with full body tracking in Void club.
But guess what, they arent doing anything, always permanently infront of the mirror not dancing, moving or anything. Whats the point lmao
@vocal shard worthless link and people have indeed been using colliders to prevent clipping since the influx of tutorials and the start of vrchats popularity
which never helped
but you do you buddy
don't be surprised when you get blocked because you decide to be a lag machine
people with body tracking rigid in front of mirror?
@vocal shard It does help. Its why people have been using it? Are you new or?
Also the "Dyn bone optimization video" yikes, sure its nice if you want hair that is essentially a single treetrunk.
Svel is only one of the better avatar peeps out there...
@vocal shard yet he doesnt know what dynbone colliders are?
And you saying both proves to both me and him you barely know how to optimize...
and that people have been using them since day 1?
okay buddy, i won't lose my time with you anymore, you obviously don't care and got no idea what you are talking about
do not ping me anymore, thanks
servers still having issues? 4th time ive been knocked offline today, requiring me to completely log in again, which is a pain in the ass to do in VR
Yep
must be some kid that got banned and is salty
@vocal shard Solid argument. I know who you are, you dont remember me from Shonzos discord, but thats okay. YOu're not that good, you were crazy arrogant back in Q1 2018 aswell so.
Even people in that very discord have been recommending using Colliders to prevent clipping. And you havent uttered a word against it there.
And are you saying its a good idea to have a single bone for back hair? Thats insane. That hair will be as static as a tree trunk. There will be no flow (physically impossible since there are no other bones)
i'm barely in shonzo's discord, dunno what kinda argument is that
Fairly sure you are the only one trying to argue a single bone for hair is good LUL
wait, "taylor swift" i do remember you
i thought i blocked you, my bad, let me correct that right now
@umbral reef He linked #avatar-optimization and the only video regarding hair is the one where the guy merges every hair bone into 1
So because he did an fault link for optimazation he is all in favor for something else?
As that is how i am getting your argument atleast...
People in avatar-optimization are still recommending colliders with the bones. Yikes my guy
I honest to god dont know what video you are even referring to with the single bone for hair...
Are you new to discord? check the pins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqobredT-sc&feature=youtu.be
Ow? So a 3 strand is one dynamic bone? Cool-
But thats fairly effective if you weight paint properly and dont have ass hugging long hair... What most models do not have..
I dont think you even watched the video.
Theres like 4 individual strands on the back.
He merges all 4 strands into 2 bones.
Meaning they will all regardless, act as a single bone.
There will be no real sway, the strands will act like a trunk and not move properly.
Actually might be 5 or 6? strands
(He uses the pose tool to show us what it'll look like, and it looks awful)
Not sure how you weight paint then my dude but i have used just 2a3 bone tree's that worked all neaty and cute with proper settings so 
Guess this guy who does basic bynamic bone stuff is better then most within the avatar community?
I do agree 2 is tight AF- But its better then you having them 12 colliders and having technically an extra IK system on your avatar because of it in performance hits
If you have an collider only in the head your avatar has a stupidly big head if it gets yeet'd by the pug
@digital sparrow I've been playing since last November.
And i guess you should maybe take a look at most of your avatars buddies then if you think having abnormal high colliders is odd
@umbral reef normal sized fox head. 1 collider for the head is enough, prevents any and all clipping there. For back hair into chest you just use the inertia or stiffness.
@umbral reef I dont know why you bring up "buddies" when you're the one claiming 12 colliders lol
Whenever i hear "high amount of" and "avatars" in the same sentence, I know something is up
Double mention boy
Last year were the good ol' days
I have a vague recollection of getting thrown to the entrance in the pug and I definitely don't have any colliders, though I could be mixing it up with a different avatar of mine.
@neon flume yes a friend uses deffault vrchat avatar and gets teleported
@brisk bone most editors think that the VRChat optimization things are stupid.
There is plenty of dumb avatar peeps out there and even worse optimazation ways peeps claim are effective without understanding the math behind it
@umbral reef there are avatar worlds with Tesselated tails and the devs dont care either way so
The pug should only teleport if you clip outside some specific boundings
Its mainly around the stairs where these respawn things are
@wild wadi Get an avatar with 2m polygons in a single space and then run into it with a second client 👏
But they do affect things- Just way less then almost anything else
Get better specs 👏
Dont the majority of VRChat players run on cheap as chips hardware
Its basicly 2nd life of vr
70% run on Potatoes
Most are way under specs-
Can confirm, my bag of potato chips struggles to handle this game.
Then again the game only runs on One Core

But that does not excuse having to need 200 transformed bones or an avatar that has a 5K poly cloth mesh...
Or something with 30 materials...
If you have more than 10, you're over doing it tbh
I agree @umbral reef
That is why intel is superior to amd
@umbral reef in desktop mode (why does it feel like it runs at 30hz devs?) the game barely uses my CPU
Yes the fur shaders people use have lots of draw calls but it is possible to disable those tails by changing shaders in safety settings. Materials and dyn bones can't be fixed
But I also believe VRChat would have been more optimized if we didn't have the major security issue the past few months
Poly count increases load on the GPU, which isn't really challenged for the majority of players in this game, even the fairly low end ones.
For those playing on laptop m-model GPUs, it might have an effect.
Poly count is minor compared to cpu load. The devs acknowledge as much and put no emphasis on poly count
@brisk bone that’s like 80% of the game
Most systems are bound to one core because of how the current unity version works
But even within the new unity version its almost imposible to change
Systems like the IK cant be split raw over cores, they have to be locked to one core at a time
They can to my knowledge split cores to IK / rendering and Networking + voip by default what would help a lot
@digital sparrow I didnt make the game- I just know how things get rendered and calculted 
So no point in asking me that
VR-Chat single player mode?
If vrchat has a story mode LUL
VRChat but with a Plot 🤔
Anime plot or book plot?
It already has plenty of guys playing as plot
SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE TYPING...
I wish avatar scale were separate from the avatar itself. Right now disabled avatars have the wrong scale and you can't tell where their eyes are
@brisk bone I wish desktop mode didnt feel like 30hz. Its like watching a movie with insane Judder. It hurts my eyes. Literally.
It kinda has a plot, in a form of internet dramas
Also being able to scale yourself up and down at will would be awesome
Drama is devolved to the point where VR Drama is worse than IRL drama lmao
There's an easy solution to that Fez, just only play in invite only and never invite anyone.
i have that same issue feels like 30hz and i remember it not being like that in march to june
I remember it always being like that in desktop
“My vr gf broke up with me”
@vocal shard I have 91fps and still its juddering like its 30hz
Just get a shit screen and everything will look like 30Hz
Then its not a problem anymore but just daily life 
lmao
@brisk bone use Omegle or something
You guys know what Christmas means right?
no
Relative money?
NEW WAVE OF VR PEOPLE
If people stream the game sure, otherwise it'll remain the same pop
Gore? ._.
Then play Minecraft
some people just want to get lagged out or have gore on their screen ait
Oh wait lol
Pro Tip: Don't have people's Shaders or Custom Animations on
@ember forum The knuckle boom experience 
Just disable animations then senpai...
Does the same but avatars dont look like a 2 year old ate then and puked them out
That's what I'm telling people Oclac
Just turn off shaders, sounds etc from non-Trusted users
although the rank system is broken
just turn off non-trusted users
is there a place i can post a clip of a crasher
let em suffer
DM me 😉
jsut got one on lolathons stream
moderation@vrchat.com @cyan torrent
The still trusted 😎 when I use a certain “hate frog”
Pepe
thank you
HE SAID THE P WORD
I prefer only disabling the animations, if it's ever relevant. Better than seeing glitchy avatars, texture horror shows and plastic people everywhere.
I want my veteran rank 😡
Im a content creator and deserve more respect from the devs then normal users! /s
There's nothing special about being Trusted tbh
but all the cute expressions and faces 😨
People just want to feel important
I am important, I’m the Real Shofu
Well- peeps wont have to unblock shit from you to see your stuff atleast...
Upload a map : get trusted in no time.
Play the game for 1 year, get Known
@digital sparrow user*
Trusted rank is mainly just when you get to enjoy the slightly more novel shader/particle tricks in regular public instances without wondering if it's working.
But i barely have time to play what will hopefully change soon so
Basically the ability to flex on anyone lower rank than you
It's just VR Clout
i got 30% of my hours last month
30% of my hours the first month (So a year ago by now)
And the 40% all inbetween :lul:
Playing this game, nice meme
Playing VRChat in 2018
I've been gaining hours fairly evenly since starting. About 150 per month.
December last year was a golden month
I’ve gain 24 hours in one day. I have a man servant to play for me
hopefully it will change in time and that this is just like this till things are more stable and more better features and patches and then they may refine the trust system to be more tolerable... but one can dream right
Well ofc senpai- I started playing back then with VR
We should be considering ourselves lucky we live in a timeline where we can be Anime Girls
@brisk bone a Last genuine talk? How do you mean?
being anything other than a funny meme
Genuine talk as in people conversating and talking about decent topics rather than memes,cancer, and how "my avatar is better than yours"
TMW your an anime boy
I have that pretty much every time I log on. >_>
Man- Just join the battle disks maps if peeps arent friend hogging it
You find awesome peeps in rooms like that
Or the older maps from before the boom/during the user boom
The chad box vs the virgin great pug
gimme that person I'll add him to my friendlist
Reveal who it is. I may know him or already added
There's always going to be a bit of that, but it's usually easy to ignore. When they're over the top with it or don't get bored and leave, isn't hard to mute them.
Squishy mind if i dm you for a second?
If you don't like someone, you can easily mute or block them.
I guess we’ll never know who it was
I disable avatar and mute at most
If you're constantly being a nuisance, then block :v
If your constantly being a nuisance, you get the nuisance rank. I’ve seen a few people so far with that rank
if you keep being a nuisance after getting blocked we get rid of you
A kid who says the N word for fun? Just visit any Pug instance and find one. Don't see why any specific one matters.
If you keep being a nuisance, you're not invited to my VRChat Birthday party.
Go to the box, find a non-VR user, preferably visitor rank, and bam you've probably got a N-bomb dropping stinker
When your real life birthday sucks, you celebrate it in vr FeelsBadMan
Tfw someone actually threw me a party in VR and I got nothing IRL lmao
FeelsBadMan
FeelsBadMan
I actually ignore my own birthday irl, but people at my high school would often show off their birthday status by buying huge balloons
just celebrate ur birthday everyday
For me, I stay in bed until my birthday already passed. My parents would make a big deal out of it though
I like to give gifts to friends tho
Where's my gift
🥔 have a potato
I got a portrait of my avatar for my birthday, drawn by a friend and mailed across the ocean to me. ^ ^
Got it framed above my PC.
That's so cute. I wish I could see
That's pretty cool
You actually can. It's my pfp.
Well, um.. You sure it's not starin' into your soul?
(Full view of it.) https://i.imgur.com/nifeqx4.jpg
(based on) https://i.imgur.com/nsbru1Z.png
oops. wrong links. Fix'd.
He'd never drawn anime style art before this. Normally draws animals. But has made it his mission to draw everyone in our discord.
I can appreciate that.. It could be a little difficult, though.
That reminds me.. Where's that portrait of Jamie?
I remember seeing a portrait of you that someone made for you 2 months ago.
Oh, from grumblebum?
Oh, yeah that one.
You're wanting me to link it? Or what?
O.o
No thanks.. I could just type his name in the mentions list.. Seems like it was from Sept. 10

grumblebum sounds a lot like my lewd gnome's name in WoW
Lol
is the severs still mess up ? @vocal shard
I was disconnected 5 times in a row about 7hrs ago. Likely so 
why do you ask jamie ? 
he know more sever connection then me
so ? he doesnt control the vrchat servers
jesus leave him alone
i'm just curious as to why you would ping a normal vrchat user to ask for server status
idk, let him do whatever I'd guess
hmm , guys , can you get banned from specific world?
no? not permanently
hmm okay , I just can't see public rooms in this world , and I'm pretty sure that there is a public rooms with players , I can create only private world , cuz new instance button is gray , that's weird
How do I become wholesome?
you are already wholesome ❤
Lol I spend money just so a girl can say I’m sexually attractive
Aaand #general-media
because people can't read announcement before spamming worthless idiocy
^
why would they spam it
because they aren't happy about servers getting DDoS
wouldn't it take one person answering to stop them?
but they got an answer
it was the blog post about the DDoS attack
but they still spammed and complained
because of those people that only come here to complain, the rest of the peeps here are "punished" too
well it was all fixed already right?
well at the very least it says " We believe the misconfiguration has now been rectified."
not yet
Rectification, less hacking, wanna spend the rest of the night chatting. This is my last resort.
there are still some issues
less but still a bit scuffed
RIP then
when a discord admin wants to make a silence role and realizes the permissions system cannot override into negation permissions and every role has to be additive stack after the Everyone role negations are defined .
same
when vrchat was down i played a fuck ton of secret of the magic crystals
you see, the average brainlet would have to look that up to get it
but little did you know I already had this game
not gonna lie, for a kid's game its pretty confusing
Oh dear.
how about that ddos though?
So
There's like a bug attack that was extended or something
My game could not load up, at all.
Which means I am losing interest to the game due to log in problems.
oh well, glad you played while you did
Yup.
Hi
can someone help me with a cross vr set up ? om soo closce to haveing ocoulous headset and controlers with vive body trackers
I like your pic, can I have it for my cute folder
O.o
Jamie you know full well I have a cute folder don't act surprised
I know. That was just forward. Lol
When am I not forward
When your backwards
anyone know where i can get an avatar with a piano attached?
tried vrchat using the oculus for the first time today
that was a really fun experience
I should be saving up for the Vive though
oh, the tracking difference really is negligible in most spaces
Ah
most vive users will recommend the rift, me being one of them tbh
That's an inaccurate statement Mic.
For the rift it depends on your sensor setup and placement. You can get really good tracking with proper setup
I've heard the complete opposite. Though I absolutely don't doubt some vive users don't like vive over oculus.
Ahh
Now for the controllers on the other hand...
The knuckles need to come out sooner lmao
Alright, now that VR Pill and Tupper have new profile pictures, now Ruuubick needs one.
Mic is going off of a discussion we had a few days ago here. Someone asked and about 3 vive users said they'd recommend rift if they started over. I also have a couple in my server who have both and they both agreed that they enjoy the rift more in vrchat because of the touch controllers. But true it is subjective. It really is to preference
Well, I might consider Rift if I'm low on money
At least Vive is learning from Oculus features.
Knuckles will be cool
The knuckles are pretty good, I've tried them.
ooooo
And i wouldn't use the rift price as a selling point. You'll want a third sensor, so in the end it will be closer in price
I see
460 total for better controllers
Like, the vive tracking system is unquestionably the best. But every headset has trade offs.
You can get the vive with the best tracking system, but worse controllers (currently) and more pronounced sde.
Rift with best current controllers, but smaller tracking space.
Odyssey+ for best screen, but less reliable tracking when hands are at your side or behind you.
Vive pro... The damn price. Lol
They all have trade offs
The tracking is better, but from people I know who've used both, I can't really tell the difference and neither can they, at least not for this game.
Unfortunately I've never used the vive, but i have to agree that the rift tracking is really good. (But I'm also comparing to wmr)
Vive has best tracking plus has fullbody tracker
I hear it has the "best" tracking a lot but what does that really equate to? I rarely see anyone actually lose tracking unless they're full body, even my WMR friends don't lose it very often
i don't see people lose tracking, drift, spaz out, etc. It might be "better" but it really can't have much of an impact in a normal room setting.
any one have problems in desktop mode wen they sundely cant hear peaple talking after a while ?
Updated and awaiting approval maybe, or was updated requested public, and got denied. Who knows
'cuz I don't.
Or they could've just taken it down themselves
@covert chasm Open beta has been updated, you got any of those patch notes? 😉😉😉
Well that concludes that. Cheers.
So... what are the benefits of upgrading the engine?
Read the blog and find out!
please, I hope syncvideoplayer is fixed, I want to relaunch my theater
do I need to reupload in the beta?
Read the blog, it will tell you. 😃
@upper fox Fixes for Audio/Video sync on Unity Video components (and therefore VRC_SyncVideoPlayer)
Tupper has spoken to us 
god has spoken
I think you mean every community.
When a user used mixamo to rig and a single mesh is seperate into 100 different meshes.
Every community needs to optimize. I've heard Lexidoll's Nanachi community like, tells each other to just disable meshes that they don't want to use IN UNITY. exCUSE ME?
Even Lexidoll himself says don't do that and they don't listen.
Vrg?
a community can police itself with good algorithms
Wot's VRG?
yay, my theater is working
Nothing about MMDs are inherently optimized or unoptimized. You are the one that must optimize models.
Anyways I forgot to link the changelog in the announcement. Here you go https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.4.3/docs/latest-release
Open Beta - December 4, 2018 | Release -
Cats essentially forces you to join meshes, and will yell at you if you have more than 10 materials on export.
On top of that, the thing that normally kills most framerate is DynBones, which is something the user explicitly does.
So...
Well that was easy
when will vrchat be rtx compatible?
Not for a long, long time
Speaking of optimization, I can barely play in a room with 10 or more people. I've tried disabling pretty much everything in safety, but I'm still getting insane lag and lots of visual glitches in VR (works fine without VR). It doesn't seem like others have this problem. Anything I can do to fix this?
new GI options seem nice in 2017, though
What are your specs @shut crest ?
disable your supersampling, slayer
Not at my computer atm but I'm pretty sure I have an i5 8core processor and like 24gb of ram
Disable it in the geforce settings?
SteamVR likes to set supersampling really high, by default
at least for my video card
should be in steamvr options
Oh, okay
I'll check that out when I get home in the morning. If it doesn't help I'll be sure to post back here with more info.
Actually really happy about the change regarding turning not being linked to frame rate anymore ^^
but yeah, go to SteamVR, open settings, click Video, then click manual override
steamvr tries to set my supersampling to 176%, on a gtx 1070ti, that's like trying to render almost 4k on the oculus
70% seems to work just fine
Thanks guys
are you kidding me i have to redo all my animations!! 😢
While you're at it optimize
already optimized but the amount of keyframing fml
And yea we should also optimize google and steam and everything else too
totally
^someone who uses 500 dynamic bones and 10 meshes
only 500? Try 10000
yea, we should optimize everything? Discord nahhh thats slow lets optimize it ofc

"making things work better is a bad thing"
Is this what you're sarcastically implying
@gaunt pine you shouldn't need to remake the animation, just re-upload it.
are you srs
i hope not
Nahhh, it's like you're saying that they should change something but not tell them what to change
or put in some overused request
@gaunt pine Your animation will be fine. Rotation is what'll break. Reuploading is your solution.
You're this much of a mouthbreather that you don't know how to optimize
i dont use rotation
Then you'll be fine.
use weight painting to legs for skirts instead of dynamic bones
Yo, is that the Grassman?
Atlas your materials so that you have one material instead of 20+
have ONLY ONE MESH
Go on
Ya speaking my language
those are just the basics
Before you even get into shaders
Check your drawcalls in unity
Great, it's just that I'm so used to seeing "OpTiMiZe Ur GaMe" being thrown in here without any evidence/reasoning/things to back it up with that I'm used to taking that attitude
Nice to know that you know what could be tuned
So apologies on my end
you probably don't do it anyway
along with the rest of the community
Don't do what exactly?
optimize
I don't do much avatar work myself
I stick to a few models I find
Nice, simple models
Listen just be one polygon
^Unironically this
go to hell dot
Better idea. Don't get a better computer for an incredibly unoptimized game.
Just be an N64 model
why not go for the full sprite
👀
for dem cloth physics
we can all vr chat with cardboard cutouts
2d vrchat
Listen just be like me and be a one poly triangle ingame. Guaranteed to pick up the ladies ;)
vrchat ladies
Just be a cardboard cutout or a body pillow gg ez
ggez
^
yay our models have to look like shit to satisfy people with shitty PCs that shouldnt be used to play games with in the first place.
Vrchat is an expensive game
"look like shit" dropped lol
I'm not even sure what "our" models refers to. Mine looks pretty cute and fits within the performance suggestions, that and it's only public world avatars
Your models don’t have to look like shit and you don’t have to have a shitty PC. The game is unoptimized itself.
A lot of cool stuff in the upgrade especially for content creation. I'm looking forward to seeing what people come up with!
any udon news?
I have to re upload literally everything. Any animation with rotations will break apparently
8086k @ 5.1ghz
RTX2070
16GB DDR4RAM
970EVO M.2 SSD
I'm getting 45 FPS according to the menu in public Pug, it's not just vrchat's spaghetti code
and if you used crunch compression
we've known that for a long time though
It's people who don't know how to combine meshes in blender
or atlas their materials
do animations with rotations count for muscle animation editor? cause technically theyre rotating the fingers?
I think gestures and shit don’t count
Atlas well and your avatar doesn't lose any quality, it just reduces the amount of materials needed
The only excuse for not atlasing seems to be "but muh shaders" but really, you shouldn't need more than 10 shaders on an avatar to begin with
I'm pulling only 30FPS on my community meetups where a majority have FBT
so spaghetti code is still there
I do all my retexturing in unity so i guess back to blender with 50 avatars.
But people uploading need to do their part too
Do you dedicate virtual memory to your hard drive or ssd @vocal shard
It's weird people are still uploading and basically bricking theirs worlds because they haven't heard of the public world upload requirements
i found it funny how i had an avatar world up with all my avatars in it considered optimized that i had for months, and then i update it and theyre all suddenly counted unoptimized and im expected to send avatars made months ago back to blender
Show how many materials they have
I was lagging like crazy until I use one of my hard drive to deal with memory leaks
Dynamic bones, colliders, polycounts
Post it eurpup
It wasn't considered optimize, they just didn't have these requirements
tiktok wars leaking in VRChat
Furry pfp is a furry
what are your specs?
Side note, @vocal shard how's your vrc business?
I remember you from months ago
Still goin strong? :pog:
just spend 20 minutes trying to figure out why my avatar wouldnt upload only to realize i was uploading to my alt account. life is great
Gtx 1060 i5 6500 16 gb ddr on a 850 ssd
8086k @ 5.1ghz OC
16 GB DDR4 @ 3200mhz
RTX 2070 8GB
970 M.2 SSD
@mystic venture I perfected my voice changer
I still pull private sessions ez
um, whats that ping, discord pls
I wonder if virtual sex workers have to pay taxes
I recently got back into VRChat
I certainly dont
only if someone calls the IRS on you
Grassman, you mean Twitch Streamers? 
When my pc has better fps than someone with better specs LUL
wait why is it that my specs are about the same but i get 40-60 fps in a majority of crowded worlds? 🤔 im trying to figure out whats making us different
next week 2017 vrchat
unoptimized avatars, a lot of FBT users, mirrors
Same
We're used to it at this point
what do you mean "about the same"
if twitch bitches don't need to pay taxes
Msi has a fps counter? LUL
your GPUs might bench the same, but they probably have very different strengths.
than vee-chat traps don't need to either
then I don't need to pay taxes to lewd in nepbar
EZ money
One or two unoptimized avatars won't kill your FPS, sometimes you won't even see it, but when you've got everyone in the world unoptimized then it really impacts things. Mirrors make it even worse, and the lmao IK with full body tracking seals the deal
oh that's right, you guys don't play with a regular group with FBT
But technically you are earning income while on twitch, so you are subject to taxes
Chicago amusement tax for streaming
new IK update release when
It's people who do private things and don't pay taxes who "don't have to"
💤
brb reporting grassman for taxfraud ima be rich
IRS is brutal. I can't use most foreign banks, stock sites won't deal with me, and I get frequently double taxed.
I haven't lived in the US in 15 years.
thats why people have been getting the IRS on snapchat grills
if i weren't a US citizen i'd probably not be playing VRChat on a laptop without a headset

"Hello IRS? There's a guy pretending to be an anime girl in the nepbar who's getting paid to awkwardly fuck a client"
what if the money you get isnt real (not that "real" money is particularly real) but an ingame currency, does the irs log into the game to collect the taxes?
Yeah that'll go real great
Virtual prostitution sounds like the most pathetic job in the world
if I could still post my revenue in vrchat-general from nepbar prostitution
xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
You'd think otherwise
@hollow surge the usa is waving its dick around internationally again i guess
N8 has seen it
It's been doing it for a long, long time.
papa grassman doesnt have those pc specs without reason
grassman? more like legendaryman
Trump's made it a little easier if you don't own a business.
But I started a business just before he came into office.
So now my taxes are even higher 
in germany business revenue tax goes to like 45%
45% 👀
it goes up step by step but even with like 40k or so you quickly go for the maximum bracket which os around 45%
My next tax payment is close to 100%. I might sell my car until I can get the reimbursements filed. 
3 countries
yeah just pay every country
two times germany would be enough to get pretty close to 100 already
my basic income tax in the country i actually live in is already 43%
thats a lotta vbucks
30-50 dollars per session, so that's at least 30 sessions in half a week
depending on what the they want
8000 dollar a month. Seems legit
sounds like i need to get a vr headset
I went part time with benefits for this
and body tracking
what would someone want in... vr prostitutiomn
only reason i'm part time is because dem benefits
worlds with mirrors have to re-up. there's not gonna be any more avatar worlds after this lol
Wait what, vr prostition is a thing ?
playing vrchat without vr headset
i work all day i can't be wearing a headset
unless it's profitable (^:
There was this guy who rented a vrchat girlfriend and started crying when he ran out of money and she left. LUL
- Learn opposite sex body language
- learn how to dance
LOL shofu what
- be a master at blender and unity for dem lewd shapekeys
I know how to do 3 of those things. I still can’t dance for shit
ez money
my voice is too nasal, fuckin privileged normal voice people
you'll get to live life on ezmode liek me
Get nose surgery
he can't even afford a body swap
it's 2118
lol
i mean yeah get surgery like a pleb if you have to
yo grassman, you happen to have a voiceclip of yourself on hand? for science of course

i had nose surgery, all that shit before it caused my voide to get fucked
then they drilled my skull
polyps suck
eh im out
50 bucks bro he's running a business
@indigo fern https://vocaroo.com/i/s128DiULhEbZ
Here you go, an old one with my old mic

The only thing I don't do is loli
otherwise whatever the client wants and pays for they get
wait
if we move to unity 2017, the old worlds that have been abandoned will be gone for good
No more MMD Club
No more Suburban House with a car and a camera screen
hopefully they'll be purged if not re-uploaded, or else we'll just see broken worlds 🤢
Maybe they'll mark or let us hide old worlds
I'd prefer broken than I must be losing my mind because MMD club never existed in the first place
That's half the reason to use a compatible lts version which still loads most 5.6 content ok
You can report worlds so they can use that system to find truly broken worlds (like that show both eyes doubled)
Dm me if anyone knows the requirements for "Trusted" role. Bout to head to sleep. My head hurts so bad.
backstreet's back and Kizuna AI will forever be turned into my mind
who needs anything more than visitor anyways
for some reason when i put on full body my frames drop to 10 then if i dont have my trackers on
i updated vrc yet when i load into worlds i still don't see anyone, help?
you probably joined the beta
if you're on the beta, then you can't see people in the live version of the game, even if it says theyre in the same world etc
and vice versa
so i should choose the opt out of beta option in properties?
Yeah, for hanging out you'll wanna stick to the live version, so just op out
Yeah pretty much, it's only for testing/checking for bugs and stuff
Thanks, i'm super new. I appreciate the help
careful not to upload any dittos or youll get upload banned for a month since its considered "hosting content for a ban evading user" omegalul didnt know pokemon were against tos now
isn't there a world with pokemon
didnt happen to me happened to friend
and ye but now apparently the ditto model is consider ban worthy lmao
Big oof
Can we start reuploading worlds with the new unity or will they be denied and have to wait til the updates in effect?
They probably weren't smart about it and used the avatar ID connected to the banned person's avatar
Only reason they'd be caught and upload banned for it
Has anyone noticed that ovrdrop breaks visemes locally?
I think VRChat Home taking over the Hub as the default entry point killed a lot of the fun for VRchat for me
It was fun to log into the old hub (and old new hub) and wonder who you'd run into at the mirror while testing your new avatar
They would say "wow you can lift your skirt up!" them know that they're the first person to see it
Now every just hides in private worlds
Void Club used to have desktoppers and vrheads on the dance floor
I miss the hubs too tbh
Now they're on front of a goddamn mirror
The new new hub is empty too
REMOVE VRCHOME AS A DEFAULT
LONG LIVE THE HUB
it was always so nice to spawn into a public world
and it wasnt like a lag issue, because you would be placed rather evenly
i think you should be able to set your home as a public
Agreed
I want to barge into someone's house
I feel like people being in front of mirrors was always a thing in vrchat 🤷
back in my early days of vrchat, when i first got my first headset, an oculus, my friends and i would just stand in front of a mirror and chat for hours. Occasionally someone would play music for us all to dance to together
those friendships held strong ever since
My only issue with the old login system were people who had shaders that would take over your screen with disgusting pictures. It didn't happen often, but it was awful when it did.
Did have more good memories of it than bad.
moo
I'd chat with a bunch of people while muting every new knuckles which walked by. It was honestly hard to keep up.
Only people who played back then can possibly imagen the amount of knuckles. I remember seeing about 20 kitten band cats in open mic night at once, and they were far more rare.
Knuckles world got over 3K people at some point. It was likely much higher, but I wasn't paying attention
if i can get out of enough taxes i think i'll definitely pick up a proper desktop and vr kit and stuff them in some tiny flat akin to a VR closet
that'll be fun
Investing everything in VRChat
This is terrible advice, but it sounds like fun, do it
i already invested in a stupid car
why not something else stupid
Yours breaking down too?
no
it was just previously racefitted
so it has a lot of uhhhhhhh
interesting quirks
the suspension was definitely not re-tuned for the street at all
that was really fun to adjust
mind i knew nearly nothing about cars before getting this thing
i knew how a combustion engine and wheel system worked from uni, i didn't know anything practical though
Speak of the update.. This is gonna be interesting
🔥
maybe i should re-sell the car at a higher price now that i've worked on it
invest in vr, a slightly bigger vr closet, and stuff in a racing sim rig 
VR racing, as if normal sim racing wasn't already terrifying enough 
i is back
Is it the adrenaline that rushes in you as you find yourself in the eyes of a race driver?
it's the expectation of inevitably hitting a bad curb, spinning, and dying 
i guess there's some adrenaline there 
tell that to a brain that's used to driving a physical car
whats going on here now?
i already have a wheel
it's not quite the same as the feeling of acceleration and deceleration
but once you've done some racing, it becomes apparent the devs put in effort to mimic the feeling of a vehicle through that limited feedback interface as best as they can
and once your brain tunes to that
feeling the car lose control is as nerve racking as losing control on a highway would probably be
-only lost control once b/c of ice-
i just don't drive on ice
i didnt know there was ice xD
idk what kg is
that's like, 1600lb
oh ok
in a heavy vehicle, the brakes get destroyed on ice
in a light vehicle, it's the throttle
idk a single thing about cars sooo
long story short:
step 1, tap throttle without the car being perfectly stable and straight
step 2, spin
You used to do modifications on your car before?
still do, i'm still learning. it's kinda funny since i'm doing backwards of what most people who modify cars are probably doing
i'm dialing it back
for the most part
Interesting..
it was relatively cheap because it's been rekt so many times
but it's been rekt so many times because it was used for racing
and i'm pretty sure drifting at one point
pop pop
all the power's still there, the interior is just cleaned up, it's a bit quieter, and the suspension isn't as uh
extreme
and it has heat again
important detail
the brake pads are also way too expensive to keep at current spec when they need replacement
<.<

the insurance was also pretty cheap
oh hi my little jiff
presumably because the drivers in these vehicles are usually pretty experienced
which i'm not
does sim time count
does vr chat time also count for my ability to socialize 
no
waahh
You're technically talking to total strangers, so that counts
Nyaaow~~
i always get head pats it never ends

jiff come here
I saw that, Par

i think alot of us saw that
Yup
come where? for head pats im guessing
no just come here

That's how they get you... They promise head pats and candy...
And then they eat all the candy themselves!
headpats are impure
works for me at least im not one getting fat and diabeetus
No, you're thinking of handholding
i was just gonna give jiff a heart
handholding is but the next level of impurity
absolute suffering and despair
giff love meh

oh my heartlexx is here

Hallu~
how are you
Im allright, just opened my eyes .w.
just waking up?
Welp im awake for 30 mins...technically
-hugs the heartlexx-
Im in the process of commiting eyes opening
oh my
just stay one of those anime characters whos eyes are ALWAYS closed, unless somethin story twisting happens
Lol

you can do it heartlexx, we believe in you!
i just woke up 30min my self not good though since i have an appointment today as only 4 hours of sleep meh
i haven't slept in 50 hours, don't tell anyone
what kinda appointment?
Welp i start workin in 27mins .w.
What happens with our uploaded avatars with the new unity update?
nothing i hear
Oh
nice
thats guud
Greetings my fellow degenerates
oh hi sai
And im gone
Cause everyone shleep
damn
I just woke up though
oh hai hotox
Hey seam
whats happening ol chap
Laying in bed 👌
same
Haha nice
im bored though
Being bored sometimes is a good thing. This means you have time with yourself
have you considered doing a thing?
nothing t do, its 1am rn
like what am i suppost to do at 1am
play chess
play anything
start a stream
make a thing
fiddle with OCing
read a book
don't be a dum
i already drew all the oc's i can remember
the hells overclocking
OCing is what we do when we want VR to not be awful 
Lmao
never done that before and vr's always good for me
Welp, if u have a rly good cpu u shouldnt have a problem
whats the cpu again?
processor.
is that the intel or the nvidia?
intel...
Your computer processor or Central Processing Unit for dummies
That's allright, to each their own
its just not ment for me
Its like ppl talking to me about car parts and whatnot. And im like. I drive my car...it takes me places...thats all i need to know LOL
Pcs are pretty complicated ngl
from what i can remember, i dont know about most things
consumer electronics is pretty simple with everything in neat standardized packages
Welp, time to get out from under the rock? .w.
you barely need to know what anything does to take it apart, oc, etc
can't say that about a car
Askopar dont say that in such an absolute manner, some ppl are just not made for certain things
im not made for anything techno
And you are not alone, and its pretty normal.
if its more then pressing the power button and typing my talks, idk how to do it
i've trained people for these things, anyone can do it
whether they mess it up or not was pretty much 100% their work ethic
like people leaving the GPU unplugged because they didn't double check
👀
Oh my.
well, im on a laptop sooo
and my computer is pre-built bc im not to be trusted with delicate things
askopar
You are one of those that " if i know how to, everyone should know how to, because if its easy for me its easy for all"
building a pc is rather easy, but just because you know how to build one doesnt mean you know what parts are, or what stuff is compatible when you buy it.
Thats not how ppl work. And btw we gone random lol
heartlexx, i remember putting together a tv stand, i broke a screw driver, a few screws and i somehow brute forced some parts on backwars un knowingly
what
LOL
that's what i was saying
these are standard parts, anyone can check a list to match numbers with guidance, and anyone can learn not to exceed x boundaries in OCing, and etc.
of course, doesn't mean you necessarily should
killing a CPU because you ESD'd it isn't fun
i will not try my hand on delicate exspensive things
i wouldnt even see the point in overclocking
I love to see ppl with that attitude..
the point is getting the performance you want.
i never know the performance i need, b/c i generally do low end stuff so my performance isnt really bad
yuh, it's for driving things the parts weren't spec'd to drive
I met so many ppl during my work and knows only how to turn on a pc by pressing the button amd thatz it
well, you usually oc on high end hardware to get the max performance out of it
i oc mid-range hardware so i can pretend i have high-end hardware 
theres literally special lines of cpus for overclocking, every intel K cpu is overclockable and every amd ryzen + is overclockable.
delidding is easy i did mine with a razor blade years ago
Ence why i dont judge anymore what some1 knows tech related
for a person who uses a laptop for just youtube and facebok and the rare game, id never need to oc
Amd x *
i mean you got a laptop so yea
you can't really oc a laptop anyways, thermals are terrible
unless you're a giant meme like me and have a vx-15
laptops are usually running on max already.
then you can OC until the components start shutting off
i dont see the need to ever oc my computer for vr either
unless got those odd expensive ones they can oc. there is also laptops with real desktop cpu's in them but those are insane
there is no real need, its just wanting to get the maximum out of the money you spend
oh ok
the GTX10** line was a blessing for me
the laptop GPUs are literally just underclocked versions of the desktop GPUs
so you can overclock them to desktop clock and beyond
it's literally the same hardware
bless
wait i just realized my laptop has the overclocking options in my fan control..
i mean a fan control isnt really overclocking
as the name says, you just tune fan speeds.
for a standard laptop it's a sure increase in practical performance to max your fans
then they don't thermal throttle as hard
but the fans are usually clogged with dust
sai, i think tey just have the oc options in the fan control for easy of access?
and running that hard's going to wreck the bearing
i just have my laptop on auto and on a cooling pad
anyways
askopar, to what you said before, id most likely never do art studies
studying aren't doesn't mean buckling down and grinding necessarily, you know. just thinking about things a little more as you draw. of course if you've no want to improve there's no harm in doing it casually 💤
the world has more than enough artists these days
Just a curious question
If I want to help share my friends avatar for public use
Am I allowed to use his avatar on my pedestal
Or do I need to have it uploaded on my own
you can use his id on your pedestal
You sound like a candidate to commit toaster bath Seam xD
i prefer committing not alive
Tru tru
Thats how i feel today....shouldnt have stayed on vr until so late last night
@long venture I hope you went to sleep yesterday 
Nani
she didnt
Doesn't remember 

What sleep
@long venture You can use it on a pedestrial if it is set to public
You mean like 9 hours ago
I passed out several times and managed to sleep 2 hours in vr
Which I then woke up and went to school till now
what to do now
Why dont you properly sleep 
School
yeah but before that, i told you to go sleep :c
Was too tired to move
shana listen to sai
:C
Technically I'm laying on bed
In vr
then get your headset off and sleep reeee
Tired uwu
Commute got you good?
shana no drive?
Nope
Public transportation
ouch
tomorrow work day is gonna suck for me
I still have 9 hour lectures on Thursday and fri
And an essay due
ouch
You'll probably see me pass out in vr these 2days
bruh is it me or i'm seeing people no clipping and running extremely fast especially in the game "Murder". i caught 2 people doing those
-pats kenny-
Those are colliders
And you may call that cheating
Its colliders
Theres been a few people using some glitches with colliders to get out of bounds
it is tho
its what sai saids, ive seen a few people testing thse out in private worlds
i can do the same
I'm confused
The colliders I know only works with jump
Y'all hackors
hotox dont worry, thw most i can do is look at a person and they call me ugly
How could a cats dev ramble out such accusations 
Blasphemy!
Well you know what
B-baka
I use cats mainly because I'm too lazy to click import pmx
So I use cats solely to import the pmx
whoever owns this world, jesus christ: https://i.imgur.com/Q7ge0Ed.png
one avatar has 10k dynamic bones
That hurt
I need one too now, so yes, come here
-hugs the hotox-
Nyaa?
-hugs the seam-

