#vrchat-general-2
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It brings along some neat things, but it's not like the devs will suddenly be able to release Udon within the span of 2 hours
Cant wait for the complaining that will happen once it hits
I have some crunch compressed avatar textures that I'll have to reupload
Can't do it right now because that would clutter my list
the big thing is it fixes a bunch of bugs, is actually supported and performs better on a lot of fronts
All the 'My fps didnt improve' 'hacking is still a thing' 'really obscure X thing is broken!'
Like, people were hoping Unity 2017 would solve all their problems. As evident by the people asking "do I still need to use fixed joints or IK Follower in 2017?"
It's just a version upgrade, still the same game underneath
Its what happens when content creators throw there opinion instead of technical users ๐
in here!? NEVER ๐
"Content creator btw, I sit mute in the Pug all day filming other people from a corner"
I more meant genrally within the community
In this discord a rumor like 2017 solving everything wont start
Same for the avatar communities as most staff aint dumb there
Its more in the community and fandom communites where these things go wild
Yeah
@median basalt or make hour long rant video's
Lmao
Im never gonna let that meme down ๐
Bullshit spreads at the speed of light. I expressed on reddit that I didn't really care about the Mr Whiskers ARG. One week later, some guy starts laughing his ass off and says "hey, aren't you that guy who cried and screamed about the Mr Whiskers event on reddit???"
Also- Ima turn into a VRC content creator myself 
Apparently one of their groups saw my comment and started twisting my words over time
Guy was pretty creepy too, he kept making kissing noises and I ended up blocking him
Why you think i get so pissed off when someone is able to call me
A racist, Nazi, lefty, homophobe and ect within here?
Id rather get banned for defending myself when that shit gets said then having a rumor like that be picked up
And i have proven that...
did someone say cancer fan discord?
@umbral reef good on you๐
Is it odd that i instantly dislike ^ 
?
I talk about how peeps get witch hunted by this community and how bad it can get and you respond in an extremely sarcastic looking way..
shhhh.... no one must know
This is about VRC so its in the right channel-
But even tho- we should jump channels as this slowmode is zzz
im talking about how people are rude af sometimes when someone posts in the wrong chat
@umbral reef i did not mean for it to come across as sarcastic
oh
that was not my intention
@compact river At times i fully get it though- But most of it is this discord fault and not users even though (myself included) often act diffrent ๐
And its fine tyler, i just recieved it that way and if you did not mean it like that its fine โค
I honestly wonder how long its going to take for this game to get a another drama event
A streamer calling out another streamer bigtime, community v community or this chat being raided like the animation community did ages ago
I think it would be neat if a mod was able to write a message, and pin it to the front of the channel. So like in the bug report, rather than tupper constantly pasting the same message, just having one that stays ahead of the messages so it can't be missed
never notice any of the streamer drama things
They should just make an support channel so the dumbness gets split up
And bug reports becomes and channel the admins can look in again
Instead of providing support themself in there~
As we can all agree, #vrchat-support is hella limited
community-support?
i feel sick by server...
Well- Its 99% of what happens in this discord if we ignore the complaining and negativity ๐
Would be neat to get it in a more clean place so that the other channels can become better places
that dont result in someone asking for help mid convo and being ignored or killing the conversation
Most of the avatar and world development support are handed by a few community members. They really are the lifeblood of this server it seems
much respect for the helpful people in this discord
help catch some of the stupid things i forget
point in right direction
its a great help
Positivity squad bois 

Should we post that daily rokk?
I don't wanna get kicked for posting an emoji again
3 days and still no announcement on the loading screens being fixed. I'm kinda nervous about this..
I hope everything is okay on the dev's side. It seems they are trying to fix all this but hitting roadblocks.
I'm more so worried for them.
Maybe they've done all they can do.. and they need word back from the server provider
3 days is a lot of stress on their end. imagine the stress.
server side prob not all that much of a change on the dev side'
So you think they are less worried about it being the server provider then?

!online
There are 8170 users in VRChat currently
non sarcastic btw
There's more than usual on
The devs and mods here take a lot of sh*t from the community. So props to them for taking all and standing through it ^^
I'm just worried they are stuck, which makes it all the more worrisome for if they are going to get it fixed soon.
I trust they will fix it.
Doubt it
Vrchat 2 incoming
I think that'd be easier said than done
Well i mean yeah, lots of contracts and all that..
Most things are easier said than done
Yeah like sneezing
vrchat running on dialup
ALL things are easier said than done. > words from a lazy guy on the internet
Im a gorl
omg imagine vrchat back when the virtual boy was a thing and if it had internet
that would be so bad lmao
but like, oddly aesthetic.
You want to experience vrchat as if it was on the virtual boy? We have the shaders for that!
WAIT I NEED TO MAKE A VIRTUAL BOY AVATAR BRB
Lol
Screenspace to make everything red. And cut down the fov too a little rectangle. Lol
yeet
found a model to use, just gotta convert it and trim off the extra junk.
just incase yall wanna crack at it too
once its done imma post it somewhere too cause why not.
hello! haven't played in a while and by a while I mean months. Has anything major happened since July?
Update to Unity 2017.4 soon
Ylu can also now update to a vrchat acccount if you only have steam
yeah i already have a vrchat account
The grand lasanga is also now a completed map
Ranks happened...
You can lay down now
thank goodness i played since june. was there really a big account purge?
Ive got no information on that
well all i can say is that my account is still there and that's good.
I don't think there was any purge
It's mentioned in the last steam post but maybe they went back on those plans
But if you go on right now. The server it unstable and people are getting logged off or can't get in. They're working on fixing that
yeah that's nothing new to me
I dont think theyd just randomly ban tons of accounts needlessly
Most I can see them doing is disabling inactive ones until they logged in again
I think inky is referring to the world purge for optimization
Nah cuz they said luckily their account was still there
oh world purge? I hadn't heard of that either
Unless their account is a world.. maybe theyre earthchan
ooof
both of my custom worlds are there, everything is there
Yeah it was avatar worlds
My favourite one is gone
avatar worlds that had crazy stuff in them
makes sense, those were hell to walk through
or worlds that just lagged
My favourite one had an expelled from paradise avatar and now I cant find itt
Well, avatar worlds now have hard limits for avatar optimization. The world now gets declined if any of the avatars have more than 10 materials, 3 meshes, 50 dynamic bones
that is good ๐ imo
Mhmm. Forced optimization was kinda needed
Its sad but I get it at the very least
any changes in how vrchat runs
well the above helps
You can lay down
xd
Possibly in the unity 2017 update were expecting in a few weeks
cool ๐ any updates to the desktop mode?
You can lay down
Desktop has a crouch and prone
nice
But issue is your hands get in your face and you cant see
oh
You can check #announcements where they link to all the updates and stuff.
lots of cool things there
Its really sad
yeah that's pretty oofed
I was told the arms used to be normal but I wouldnt know
so you can lay down, but not really, unless you like looking at your fingers
ya
You have like a gun holding animation when you lie down
they changed the animation for crouch and broke the lay down one
well I'll give the game a boot in a bit
same day
oh right
serverss
yeah you did mention right
this is so sad, alexa play--
will old avatars be broken (future proofed)
i will leave now
->
Avatars should be okay
All legacy animations will brick tho wont they
worlds (also future proofed, i think thats a thing)
legacy animations brick?
they ded yes
ok
@paper bluff If you have around 217 avatars like me then nope, all my old avatars are broken from 2 years ago. but if you dont have a lot of content you should be fine.
They removed them due to an exploit
oh makes sense
People could basically destroy a world with them
Well- They are called legacy for a reason and fairly sure only the current unity version still supports them so
okay
I used some legacy animations for avatar props I think, I'll see if they work still
the alternative is generic right?
Legacy animations could basically be used having the same name as a gameobject in the room, which would in theory let them remove colliders from floors and such i think..
uhoh yeah that sounds a bit clapped
never saw it happen, but apparently it was too risky.
Well they are already clapped
true
But i mean that they flat out wont work anymore in the new unity even the ones that still work in the current version
they never work properly, mostly because they are legacy
2017 unity has particle mass transferrrrrrrrrrr ๐ฉ
trouble looping and stuff
im so hyped for particles
gonna make an avatar that spawns in little elevator platforms to ride on
there's a lot you can do with them but I never got involved because they were very fiddly
3d particles (mesh, right?) never worked properly for me
Also some dope shader stuff will be a thing if i recall right
Aka no need for camera work around anymore
ok
Does the new unity version of VRChat perform better?
Why would it?
Multi core rendering? i dunno
Then they first have to program that in
and most of the heavy hitting things are still bound to being on one core each
So if 10 people use there 5 dynamic bone script that effects 200 bones total and then a nice 4 colliders...
Things wont improve a lot
Technically that's the job of the engine
dang
@paper bluff sorry was afk for a sec, yeah mesh particles and possibly 2d colliders as well.
๐
And when the engine gets upgraded it might have different rendering algorithms and whatnot
Im not that well known on how unity renders things 
So cant say that and all i did was more of a guess
I could show you how to use mesh particles if you want, super easy to explain just not easy to understand when you tackle it on your own (its better if someone shows you)
They aren't programming everything from scratch, unity handles a lot of things itself
@small wing yeah maybe. Once I get back into the swing of things
And upgrading unity can improve performance but I think it's not until 2018 when you can script the rendering pipeline
i think i saw that?? maybe??
its nuts
Or something along those lines
@pseudo basalt 2018 would improve performance alot indeed
but the most popular toon shaders are still cubeds and noenoe right?
or at least most used
yep, but my shader is a better toon shader ๐ฉ
Regardless, good performance eventually, when the stars align
But imo putting limits on what users can upload might be an faster and long them way to improve fps for users
I can't say i liked either noenoes or cubed
They started with avatar worlds so who knows
Mine is basically toon shader with reflections and occlusion mapping. ๐
it all adds up, so yeah, it's good that they are forcing optimizations
and the reflections are matcapped so they go whereever you go ( worlds dont break em ) ๐ฉ
anyone here used xiexie's (i think it was called)
it sounds a little like yours but it was always clunky
Yeah, he helped me make my toon shader actually
He has a lot of parameters in there, but its because he was trying to add a ton of features. Mine is the only one that used matcaps.
I can post what it looks like in #vrchat-pictures
If i can find a better pic then i will post it in there, but those are the only ones so far.
@paper bluff I disabled direct messaging so check in #shameless-self-promotion
I will post it there for ya
ok
Servers are broken
Never download a file if she sends it to you.
She will steal a look at your computer screen.
There are already many victims.
Don't trust her. Never.
Uh... Why are people downloading files from a random?
Fear mongering is all i see here. Could also be slander.
I am not a victim.

She will talk to you first in a friendly way.
For all we know this person you are talking about could be the victim and you could be spreading misinformation about them.
But you can report people via discord
Don't approach her if possible.
Get your buddies to do that first
Also- Unless you can provide proof please dont throw these things into the world...
?
Be careful. plz
ok I will
Don't think I'm lying.
I have a big world
Wat?
If you need proof, I'll show you.
The size of your success says literally nothing about you as a person Cimomo..
You could be slandering someone for all we know.
It's a very serious problem.
If possible, report to VRchat developers.
Its a discord thing you report it to discord
Not another dev team as they cant do jack shit about it
Can we get a chat mod to explain this?
Im afraid to ping after what happened yesterday.
And if you have that proof then YOU should be the person reporting it not us
do the reporting yourself or people who have proof
pretty sure witch hunting is not allowed here anyway
Exactly, its slanderous.
I will.
Please give me a message if you want to talk.
@small wing Admins =/= chatmod though
Admins can legit only be pinged in extreme emergencies and chat mods just if this chat is more of a cluster fuck then normal
Ah.
talking with other users does not do much for you
reporting to discord
prob a lot more
If anything coming in here to talk about it and "warn people" only seems sus.
But ima fix myself somve food ๐ have fun
name changes are easy for people on discord anyway
Herro ๐
@vast lynx ๐
i am not sure why people download crap from randoms anyways
~>
models are an exception cause i cant do much without them
Does anyone know how long it will be before my account is authorized to log in and upload new avatars? I switched from the steam version and I don't know how long it will be now before I can actually do anything
i am meaning malicious files
i make project folders and download about 30-40 models a day.. so its not so much random..
ah yes well.. newbs.
tis all i can say..
I'm happy that people are embedding malicious files inside third party though
it teaches them a lesson.
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I haven't opened unity once today..
try to write your username and password in a txt file, and copy paste them into the login page instead of writing them
I want to but its depressing when you cant upload just to do a local test.
after i get the message, i am usually connected again
Does that mean you haven't even tried?
ok, I'll try
but yeah, it is sorta annoying
@still lark yaw yaw
lmao
aight I logged in thanks y'all
enjoy
np, make some friends and explore some worlds and you'll be able to upload stuff soon too
๐ก Fudge slow ๐ก
anyone else getting your authentication failed?
._. Everyone basically theyโre fixing it
๐
Slooooow moooode
gg slowmode
Hey all, I haven't been in VRchat for a while. Is someone willing to give me a brief summary of what has changed?
I would but only just getting back into it myself. Sorry i can't help much ๐
@echo schooner Everything broke...
except my spirit
Well I guess I did say brief ๐
i've heard a few people say the same in the past couple days
are you running a mechanical hard drive?
Did vrchat break? It keeps telling me authentication failed
not 100% sure on a dell 5567 laptop or something like that
o
yeah that's your issue, you've just got long load times in general combined with some of the connection ones currently
sometimes it'll take a few attempts to load into a world before it's successful right now, so if you have a slow hard drive it'll be exponentially slower
yeah can't enter any other world except for home and when I do try and aren't disconnected takes forever or I just don't load in
the ratio of wether or not I even g3et into the hub is 1/99
I've been having rhe load issues but i just let it do that while listening to something to pass time ๐
some people have had results clearing their cache, otherwise yeah I just wait it out and it'll load me in
and the game keeps telling me y laptops graphics drivers needed updating when they don't (I checked the core for updates and there were none)
Also been trying to figure out a way to work vb audio cable to play music and sing but im too dumb to figure it out
?
where are you checking for updates?
if you're just using device manager that won't really help you
@vast lynx do you have vb cable set up already?
a simple way is to go into the properties of both your mic and music, select "listen to this device", then set the listening device to your vb cable input
then use the cable output as your mic ingame
yeah went to aboutpc left cclick then device manager then had it check the cores
Mhm i installed it and such, checked my playback devices even see its a mic option in vrchat but from there dunno what to do. Probs looked at the wrong tutorial
you'll want to just find out what graphics card you have and check from the manufacturer's site @cedar oasis
okay thanks
@cedar oasis AMD I assume, is it above 24.20.11019.1004?
amd prosscer and radeon graphics
@vast lynx I can dm you pictures of the vb cable setup if you want
@unique nova yeah on my phone and new to it so not sure how to open a dm
I'm a special little snowflake ๐
Long hold on a profile picture
checking web site now
found radeon r5 in general and it auto decected and says the lastes update came out 11/29/2018
Okay detecting hardware
So Iโm still getting the authentication failures and crashes when joining worlds. Whatโs up?
don't know they started happening to me as of yesterday
Vrchat is bugged right now, best not to dwell on it for the moment. The Devs are doing what they can.
Theyโre under pressure.
Okay understood ๐
Iโll dwell on it.
And I don't want to do anything untill graphics drivers are finsished being updated
anyone got this problem? ..... Your authentication failed it does show for me whole day already
Look at #announcements
... really
Is anyone having a problem with the new steam vr update that doesn't allow your headset to work with play space mover?
hii
dats a new account
Playspace mover doesn't work because input emulator got killed by latest update
There's a fix for it in #vrchat-general-1
@haughty osprey
okay
@minor monolith tex $im_already_gay + 'tyvm'
i'm constantly getting the "Your Authentication Failed" error in a background of clouds
like what?
yeah bro its vrchat being broke
@vocal shard Yup. We're all seeing this error. It's server side
Tupper is the owner of vrc now?
TupperWare Chat
No...
@vocal shard ima just bout head out to work but i just remembered these https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/493173803690622977/518536041972629506/01.jpg?width=670&height=670
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/493173803690622977/518536044874825728/02.jpg?width=670&height=670
its the porceline guy for my model
im in him often, but most the time in im p#0048 more, since thats my favorite
guys whats better htc vive or WMR?
Why would Tupper become the owner of VRChat?
Vive is better, but it's more expensive.
Why wouldn't he*?*
what is better?
mav, the money you spend is exactly how much better one is over the other
every penny spent is quality in this industry atm
Who will give me an example than he is better than WMR
i'm going for wmr because its affordable and entry level
and if i like it ill save for the big boys
What is the difference between VIVE from WMR
Vive has significantly better tracking than WMR
better tracking with full set up and more fov i think from when i used one
Vive has much better tracking.
dont get me wrong when you can see the controllers the tracking is great on wmr
wmr tracking if you keep the controllers out of site for a period of time it looses track
You can also customize it in a way if you're into technical engineering.
great for budget , not great if you dont have built in bluetooth
me for only vrchat
Eh... it depends.
yea true
If you're going to get full body tracking in the future, Vive is the only good option.
wmr will work fine for vrc as long as you have Bluetooth to connect the controllers
but if you have the money to toss no point in not going vive
ehhh, I do not have enough money for VIVE, now I have to postpone the purchase again ๐ซ
thanks for the discussion
i use Lenovo wmr
reasonable bluetooth USB dongles that work for WMR are just $20 or so
Not to sound rude or anything, but if you're disabled, WMR would be enough, definitely.
ahah
sitting in a chair it can have problems tracking if you dont sit up strait
no dark rooms
ehhh
desk lamp will work
WMR may be good as your first VR headset, but keep in mind it's not perfect and you'll most likely end up getting another one.
Cant go wrong with a cheap oculus
I had an oculus but it was stolen)
ooof
want something else now, vive or wmr
why does it keep telling me "youre authentication failed"
@tardy jungle, how often do you take your headset outside of your home?
Or at least how often are you planning to?
Vive definitely doesn't have that advantage.
I took him to a party, and the next morning someone took him to him, we found out who, but could not prove
wmr you just plug and play
In case you're going to take a headset with you from time to time, WMR is a good option, actually.
in the future I was planning to take full tracking
It's way more complicated with Vive because of the lighthouse base stations.
i'm on that stage where i'm trying to figure out which wmr headset i want
My stations are mounted to the walls, so I never took it outside.
Do you have a vive?
Yeah.
If it's a matter of months and not years before you can afford Vive, I'd probably wait until then. Otherwise, you may want to consider cheaper headsets.
Maybe someone will play enough and sell me a ViVe here xd
I do not have enough 30% of the funds to buy ๐ฌ
!online
There are 7981 users in VRChat currently
I suppose you can wait, but it's up to you.
Yes, most likely I will do it ๐
I actually developed a decision support system for those who can't decide which headset to buy, but it's just clunky and not good enough (unless I spend more time improving it for some reason).
Right now, I have already decided, I will continue to save on vive ;d
Ive met tonnnns of vive users who regret vive and suggest occulus
We were all talking about it yesterday
I'm gonna re-run my program just out of curiosity. How large is your play area and how good is your PC?
ryzen 5 1600
MSI gtx 1050ti
ballistix 8GB 2666ghz
What about the play area?
1.5x1.5m
The result is "Oculus Rift".
why not vive?
Probably because of the price.
I can customize the terrain
Just get occulus a lot of people think its more worth it for the money
The controllers even have a more dynamic feel I was told
Many vive users regret gettng vive but ive never met an oculus user who regrets getting oculus
but I want full tracking
You caan get full tracking
oculus controllers are god tier ... gestures work by actually making the gesture, on vive you push a trackpad (with bad latency too)
I heard someone used Vive trackers with their Rift somehow, but I don't know how easy it should be to set it up.
There kinects and then one other thing that starts with an N you can use but I cant recall the name..
nolo
ohmagudness I am confused
Yes nolo
Kinect is way too bad.
Im about to get the vive trackers but I have an oculus (:
If you have money you can do anything
Well yeah but you should get the one thats most suggested not the priciest
Im not too clear on if people prefer vive or oculus with full body
Ask @vocal shard
Theyre the one who seemed to have the most knowledge on it yesterday
The key difference between vive + trackers fullbody and rift+trackers fullbody is the vive setup doesn't require frequent recalibration as the two different tracking systems (lighthouse & constellation) slowly drift out of sync.
both oculus and vive are amazing, the biggest difference being oculus controllers are better and vive has more tracking options
but you add extra tracking to oculus, it's just a little more effort
content wise almost everything runs on both with steamvr
or native oculus
According to my DSS, if you've got a high-end PC, around $300โ500 (based on your location), and you don't have a large play area, you should consider WMR. But, again, it's almost a rushed project and my system isn't as good as I wanted it to be, so don't take an advice I mentioned earlier as my own.
Yes
Just find their account by seafching
Probably because the servers are broken
Do it through the vrchat website maybe
You can search their name silly goose
usually you have to do it from the website to block them
unsure if they fixed that
I was able to block someone ingsme before the whole server crash
VRChat has had a problem with blocking a user through the client for a long time
You've only been able to block a user in the same room or through the website
Ah makes sense because we were in the same room
I've noticed that actually, kinda annoying when you wanna block someone but the minute they leave, you have to wait until they join again or walk to the computer to do it
am i able to download my already uploaded avatars from the homepage? if yes, how?
yeah just log in on the website
for blocking i mean. you can't download your own avatars
i heard my uploaded avatars will be gone with the comming update, is that right? ^^'
nope
so i dont have to worry about anything because i dont have the files anymore?
there's a chance they might not look right nugget
but there's a bit of inconsistency on whose avatars are and arent ok
that would be a huge yikes actually
yeah
Full Body (with third Rift sensor) costs about 630, 570 without the third sensor
That's 2 lighthouses (270), 3 trackers (300), and if 60 more if you want the third Rift sensor.
so on the low end it's 970 for the Rift+Full Body (no 3rd sensor) whiel the Vive it's 800
all before tax of course
and in USD
I bought my lighthouses used which saved a bit but it's definitely only cost effective if you already have a rift and you want full body. If you're starting from scratch just getting the vive is a far more economical option.
servers btw
Yea, I was about to say, unless you buy used 
i want a refund
yeah that's why I usually ask "Well do you want cheaper full body?" when people ask which to get
like if your long term goal is that, then you might as well get a vive
in the same vein, with the Rift its less of an immediate economic impact right at this moment, which lets you enjoy VR earlier than you could with the vive
you just "pay for it" later, if your goal is full body
alternatively wait
i think having vive lighthouses already is an investment in the future
as long as they keep working :kappa:
Has anyone heard about them failing? I know they should eventually given the moving parts but I've yet to hear of a lighthouse dying from old age.
I have Lighthouse 1.0's, but I'm concerned if they drop support for them in the future in favor of 2.0 lighthouses
the pro works with the 1.0, so probably not
@neon flume Lighthouses are made from the same motors as solid state harddrives, except they run at a fraction of the speed. they will last decades
not that he pro is a true 2.0
don't worry about them running down. they will become outdated far sooner then they will break
yeah, i know people who actually leave them on for some insane reason and theyve been fine for over a year
Erm actually you are supposed to leave them running forever.
that's how you best take care of a motor like that
the only stress is revving up and revving down.
just keep them plugged in forever.
really? why would they even offer an option for them to turn off under the Bluetooth settings?
Yes that's pretty much how that type of motor works. longest lifetime is to just let it run. speed up and speed down is much harsher.
I dislike the electric whine of the motors so I do turn them off at night. I know I should keep them running but it's hard to sleep with them on. The red dots look a little ominous in the dark too ๐
I mean, unplug it if you're going to move or rotate it at ALL, since moving it while it's on is even worse
I am 31 and am long past the point of being able to hear that frequency DX
I can't hear those things they use to annoy teenagers, lol
It keeps doing it
just hit ok
oh maybe the standby keeps the motors moving and just turns other features off
otherwise it seems weird they'd offer such a blatant way to turn them off if you're not supposed to
Ughh
yeah now that I get close, i can hear them still whirring in standby, so that's an option i guess
Anyone else still getting disconnected and timed out error..
Yea a lot of people cant get on
server is gg
been like this for 2 weeks already
it's been less than a week lol

late Tuesday night is when it started
Why hasn't this authentication error shit not been fixed yet?
Its a funny meme to not fix it
Because I absolutely love waiting ten minutes to join a world, only to then time out. 
So they dont fix it because of that
Sounds about right
At least you can get into the game. Lol unlike myself
I was surprised that despite all the error messages and weird beeps during loading worlds, the game still pretty much ran as normal for me.
its to be expected well they get things underway for for unity 2017 that is all i can think of to all this stuff has thats been happening
The loading screens would instead be replaced be just empty sky boxes and authentication errors, but then the map would suddenly load me in anyway, in pretty much the same time as normal.
slowmode
I havent played vrc for 6months and now i wanted to try it out again and meet new people and they have server issues : (
True but I was motivated to play it
and not have these issues
i thought over such a time span they wouldnt have issues like this on a daily base
vrchat keeps loading over and over
tell them mic
How come no one told us the game was being buggy? No one in the immediate chat above you, no one in multiple channels, no one in the #announcements channel....No one has mentioned the servers being weird
sherlok if you joined a few months back you would not have had these problems
is vrchat broken or something it wont load
no
im fine for the most part other than that ok button being a bit annoying
it works fine, it's just you
@rigid crescent some people just come into this discord to ask for bugs or server issues, dont let it tilt you
yeah, it's not a problem anyone else has no matter how much you scroll up or check the #announcements channel. no one whatsoever is having this problem
or #server-status btw
lol it's the dumb ones that tilt me
people get tilted over these things all the time on this discord lol
are you calling me dumb ;-;
theres just too many channels
There are a lot of channels, you're right
Luckily there's one where they announce things. I forgot the name lol
Tired of seeing you be rude to people, chill
exactly
triggered
lol actually
guys guys actually calm down its like nothing special that people come here and ask whatever problem they have
It's not, it's just uhhh what's the polite way to do it
you tell me
"Not the most intelligent option" to not even attempt to look at anything.
ignorant
especially in a time where we're flooded with one person asking, then 5 messages down, another person asks
Itโs true though
It might bug you, but complaining or being sarcastic isn't going to stop it from happening
what if servers got fixed 5 seconds ago
It's just rude, and non-helpful
This isn't a callout, more of an example. Chayo asked, and 3 messages up Sherlock Noel had already mentioned it
Hi Im Noel
story time poggers event?
hi im red
sweet @rigid crescent
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yesterady in a nutshell again. gj servers
yeh feelsbad
maybe make a better announcement that there are still problem ?
it won't matter Svel
but that's probably too complicated
was thinking about that aswell
If no one checks it, it won't matter basically.
also slow mode is big gay
and no one checks it, so it doesn't matter
but the people who write a msg in a discord server, are probably checking some server status aswell
you could pin it, do an everyone@, and just about everything else won't check it
idk
Honestly why do people seem to just ignore announcements
tHey don't check Noel, if they did they'd see under announcements where it says they'll let us know when its fixed
Because theyre senseless
So just gotta like....ignore them completely lol
Even I check announcements and I barely talk here
I dont check them because theyre always long but I check server status
i dont check anything and dont talk in here
there's even a copy pasta in bug report lol
the last announcement is too long
That too tbh
yesss red
the average user of vrchat got an attention span of 3 seconds
That'd actually be pretty nice, just a sort of announcement page in-game
you need a short sentence of less than 10 words to explain the server problems
Well they do have an ingame system for messaging and info like "Hey, you can upload an avatar now!"
"server log-in issue"
I've always wondered why it isn't used more often.
Idk, I usually like to read up on the things going on with the game
how do you announce log in issue in-game if nobody can login ?
They can log in though
then all is fine
they just get stuck in an infinite loop lol
huh
THe more common issue seems to be just getting stuck in a loop and blackscreening
well we have a login screen rite
When you get logged out in real life and have to log back in.
"You guys have login screens, don't you?"
Is there a way to slow down the non comfort turning?
Looking to do the whole, walking in my play space while turning the camera so it looks like I'm walking naturally with my full body
Comfort turning is just so jarring
im new to vr chat can someone help me upload a costume skin
if you were Cardi I might have done it
Lmaooo
typical amd temps
Hello Guys this is a specs of my friend
yesterday she can play vr chat but now she can't play it anymore. It says that you have to update her drivers when she's already in vr chat.
Any solution for this?
stop heating ur house with the gpu
always scared of clicking jpg since the screaming site incident when i was 10
Its not my laptop fyi
people can do that with any link tho, not just jpgs
thats what i learned with 11 then
lol
well
Anyone with the solution for this? She can still play other games like Stardew Valley and Dead by Daylight which means her graphics is not totally dead.
- if she's already in vrchat then why update drivers
- what exactly says that you have to update her drivers
- sup with the temps
Woah, 511.
what does this update window look like. what process is it
I hate updates u.u
That warning only happens with AMD gpus. Not sure why it'd be popping up if she has gotten the latest update though.
your not the only one
anyone know how many hours of playtime i need to upload avatar? just spent so long making
none i think
There's no set time on how long you need to play.
Ahhh sucks I don't know brother sorry
Hmm so what do you think is the problem.
after 250.000 hours you'll get ur rank for sure
it says i need more play time
i have 18hrs
Omg that's touch :"\
To much *
i just spent too many hours making avatar and im ready to be calm
I'd help but I have no idea about the AMD stuff with the game-
Try emailing support@vrchat.com, @crisp siren
Maybe vrchat is just acting up it lagg me out like 7 times already
Thank you
there's no set time so ranking depends. I think it actually depends on ur popularity ( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
also as far as that amd problem goes, you can make it stop
Amd sucks ;c sorry..
It's OK that's life for u n.n good luck with ur problem :"o
but it kinda depends on what pops the window, most likely an amd process that isn't required to run
I had a laptop that has AMD graphics too.. and it sucked.. Dota 2 on Low settings Omegalul
and then after I got desktop I smashed that laptop to the ground..
Dota 2 Omegalul
I need a new grafics card I can only handle like 12 ppl in vr chat da amd :-:
bros i play on a 2009 macbook pro
okay dude noone can top that
you win mr baker
mystery im playing vrchat on a rx 580 in vr and i have absolutly no problems
rx580 is basically gtx 1060
a little weaker then the 1060 but basicly yes
when i enter that fully populated open mic night worlds the sound makes my audio dither and blow my eardrums while crashing my computer
ooof i think vrchat server just completly died...i got kicked out of the world and im now in a never ending loading screen
I play VRC on a GTX960. It handles the game fine and is normally sitting around 60% load. It's the CPU that matters most of the time in this game.
is i5-6400 decent cpu for vrchat
squishy, do you play desktop or VR
The graphics card usually only becomes a bottleneck when looking at something fairly unusual.
in desktop the gpu doesnt matter that much yes
VR
in vr is matters only twice as much as the desktop
i got said multiple times that im running the best cpu for vrchat becsuse of best single core performance
I'm running a very out of date i5-2500k, but have got it overclocked to 4.6ghz, so it seems to do alright overall.
what are VR games more demanding than the non-VR ones? CPU or GPU?
mostly cpu with vrchat it feels like
Most VR games are more GPU demanding than CPU. VRC is just kinda weird like that, being the opposite.
vr is more demanding on the gpu
vr is more gpu because of how it displays the games compared to normal "flatscreen" games
10th time today ive gotten disconnected
whatever game it is, overall you basically have to render everything twice cuz 2 eyes.
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YES MIC
huehuehue
Probably just down to the fact that 80% of the games optimisation is the players job, and we tend to cut corners that professionals wouldn't.
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I have never had a VR headset before, so there are 2 screens?
yes
yes
There's one per eye
lol so it legit feels like 3D
There are, but you don't see them like two screens. There's a set of lenses in the way.
yes, there's ur left eye and right eye. The game gets rendered from slightly different angles
oh shit
I don't know where I heard this, but I've heard people say you're rendering twice per eye, not once?
I don't really get that though, it doesn't sound right.
And it's true absolute 3D too, nothing like that awful "3D TV" nonsense that companies were trying to sell a while back.
that has to be amazing ๐ looking forward to get a VR headset in the future
there are tricks to optimize some things out and render them only once, but vr is heavier nonetheless
is anyone else riding this loading loop
Maybe that had to do with mirrors or something? It's been a while since I heard it but it kinda stuck iwth me as something odd lol
are the servers down?
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I never knew that it actually has 2 screens viewing 2 different angles making it 3D like irl
@rigid crescent im proud of you
slowmode so slow
hue
im a normie ive never played undertale
Undertale is pretty normie I think
people say HTC Vive is better than Oculus Rift, it is also more expensive, but is the experience that much better as the price?
i spent my whole day making avatar i cant upload avatar because i need to play more i try to play and i am an unable to play i am going to file a complaint with the irs im sorry ur all going jail
It was more of a tween thing when it released though, I only ever watched a friend play through it a few times
LOL Pay your taxes vrchat
xd
FBI open up
no
actually I think I used to have a ping far lower than 200 in this game. wtf happened, did they move the servers to kr or smth
that would be legendary
made me chuckle
nn
I get that issue when it's not Enabled through the sound settings before I launch the game
hi
am I the only one having problems with the game ?
it won't let me get into the game by saying athuraising failed
the one and only among thousands of other chosen ones
there tons server problems
Need help trying to upload a model and it keeps asking for my "You cannot edit your VrChat data while the unity application is running" but I can't do that obviously and it prevents me from inputting the name and upload option last step
i know it sounds odd but try resetting layout to factory
Yeah, im having issues uploading my models with unity. It uploads fine, but i cant get it to show up on vrchat.
afternoon.
@teal sable Which version of unity are you using ?
2018.2.18 but im now installing 5.6.3p1
wrong version
hopefully this will solve it
the current live version is 5.6.3p1
the new version soon to come is 2017.4.15f1
if im wrong someone correct me
no youre correct, thats why im downloading that one rn lol
okay
i got v 5.6.3p1
Press the pause button at the top
im not doing anymore Av/wrld work until 2017 is out
I pressed paused and the avatar finally appeared on the profile but doesn't let me put the name in and upload
on the profile pic
what you talking about >.>
Still have the problem basically
Let me know if any have a fix
looks like it works , I had to click pause twice
thanks @modern sand !
!cleancache
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
Who else is having problems getting into the game
Oh what's good
sup fam
anybody else having an issue with authentication failing?
calm down
calm down yeah XD
I am calm
Anyone have any knowledge with playspace mover?
you are 98.53768% calm, i wanna see that meter go above 99.9885%
What about it? @viral yacht
I havenโt touched my computer in a few days, and when I went to start up the emulator, it gave me the โfailed to connect to open vr emulator, ensure youโve installed it. If you have, try running this fix: ...โ so I installed the fix and tried but that also says failed, must run as admin
I tried uninstalling and installing everything again, same issue
maybe you should learn to give your computer a better time since you dont touch much
Oh yeah, all the advanced settings tools got broken with the steamvr update
ya that
Think there's a new version of the advanced settings that works
you know who plays vrchat sometimes? pewdiepie. subscribe to pewdiepie
Not sure tho
Are VRChat personalities on Twitch just Twitch's counterparts to Virtual Youtubers?
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I was never able to get the advanced settings playspace mover to work, I always had to use the openvr emulator and playspace mover
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@wind crescent definitely
Check if there's a new version of AS
It looks like the newest release of open vr advanced settings is from August 15, 2017
Oh well
Then not
I haven't touched mine at all, I don't even know if it's broken or not.
If the VRChat personalities on Twitch could be revamped to having their own, entirely original character models (that are definitely not a mish-mash of pre-existing character models) - could they too become vtubers?
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I managed to get my original character by finding parts that look similar and putting them together 
Mish mashes aren't bad, c'mon 
they're good :0
Mish mashes sure would get you in to serious financial or legal concerns if you aspired to become a vtuber though.
That's true

Look at woops who just took someone's model off da and started selling merch with it as if it was his
And the creator now has a giant post saying that woops is allowed to do that on their da
Big streamer influence
And this guy isn't asking for a dime in return? Nuts.
Speaking of Nuts, that too would be a disastrous outcome if she decided to roll in the direction of becoming a vtuber with a NotKizuna Ai model
the entire premsie of being a virtual youtuber is being an original character
You're a youtuber, except you use a 2D-ish persona
some go 2D, some go 3D
also, he as permission "as long as he gives credits and doesn't commercialise with her:
You also can't really "sell" and mmd. even MMD commissioners (not vrchat ones obviously) say that you're paying for the work to put the parts together, you don't own the finished product
anyone know the name of the world with the hank hill jojo avatar?
Depends honestly, you can buy ownership of an original character if it's built from scratch and doesn't resemble any other copywritten character. Else it's a pain to get good if it's parted together
But a custom scratch built model will run you far higher a price than a parted together model
what the fuck is a virtual youtuber
Characters like kizuna ai
They have a youtube channel where the character does youtuber stuff. But the actors use mocap and play the character. Some even livestream and such...
youtuber stuff huh
They try all different stuff... Lets plays, skits, vlog, ect.
I probably shouldnt be surprised after seeing ar miku show
thinking about it is it not awkward af recording yourself in a room by yourself?
people do all ready with youtube lol
i think having a live chat helps but for real
record them self when infrot there video games shelf
idk, streaming feels awkward too, especially when starting out. And so does playing a trap in vrchat
Hey so my VRC isnt working. I reinstalled it and its just constantly on a white screen and wont boot up
A white screen? That's new..
One time mine just hit the load time then just sat there fully loaded til I just closed it.
Mine does that tons
thats when i just want to throw my pc out the window so fast it goes into orbit towards mars
It may be upgraded into a better computer. Hehe
Attention For anyone currently experiencing the "Authentication failed" issue, going to steam properties and verifying game files seems to be a temporary fix.
Rx 580 4GB also too low performance in VRC
@ebon plank that won't fix the issue. Not even temp. It's just a Russian roulette joining
I'd go with a Gigabyte GTX 1080, worth the upgrade
Disconnections out the wazoo LUL
same lol
yep
looks like i wont be playing vr chat until its fixed... i want to buuuut yeah cant get past the "Authentication failed" issue
even after verified files
disconnectet open mic night
closed mic night
dont close me
what does that even mean in this context?
O.o
Could mean anything
where can i find that russian pingu avatar anyone know
How are the servers doing tonight?
Not good
Ugh.
cool servers
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anyone having low fps?