#vrchat-general-2

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umbral reef
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2017 unity allows for more things but change the game

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Its not /as/ big as people think it is

median basalt
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It brings along some neat things, but it's not like the devs will suddenly be able to release Udon within the span of 2 hours

umbral reef
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Cant wait for the complaining that will happen once it hits

median basalt
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I have some crunch compressed avatar textures that I'll have to reupload

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Can't do it right now because that would clutter my list

vocal shard
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the big thing is it fixes a bunch of bugs, is actually supported and performs better on a lot of fronts

umbral reef
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All the 'My fps didnt improve' 'hacking is still a thing' 'really obscure X thing is broken!'

median basalt
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Like, people were hoping Unity 2017 would solve all their problems. As evident by the people asking "do I still need to use fixed joints or IK Follower in 2017?"

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It's just a version upgrade, still the same game underneath

umbral reef
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Its what happens when content creators throw there opinion instead of technical users ๐Ÿ‘

vocal shard
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in here!? NEVER ๐Ÿ˜„

median basalt
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"Content creator btw, I sit mute in the Pug all day filming other people from a corner"

umbral reef
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I more meant genrally within the community
In this discord a rumor like 2017 solving everything wont start
Same for the avatar communities as most staff aint dumb there

Its more in the community and fandom communites where these things go wild

median basalt
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Yeah

umbral reef
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@median basalt or make hour long rant video's

median basalt
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Lmao

umbral reef
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Im never gonna let that meme down ๐Ÿ‘Œ

median basalt
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Bullshit spreads at the speed of light. I expressed on reddit that I didn't really care about the Mr Whiskers ARG. One week later, some guy starts laughing his ass off and says "hey, aren't you that guy who cried and screamed about the Mr Whiskers event on reddit???"

umbral reef
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Also- Ima turn into a VRC content creator myself nanoadeDAB

median basalt
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Apparently one of their groups saw my comment and started twisting my words over time

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Guy was pretty creepy too, he kept making kissing noises and I ended up blocking him

umbral reef
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Why you think i get so pissed off when someone is able to call me
A racist, Nazi, lefty, homophobe and ect within here?

median basalt
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"Following rules makes you a nazi"

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"I'm on my school account"

umbral reef
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Id rather get banned for defending myself when that shit gets said then having a rumor like that be picked up

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And i have proven that...

compact river
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did someone say cancer fan discord?

vocal shard
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@umbral reef good on you๐Ÿ‘

umbral reef
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Is it odd that i instantly dislike ^ GWcfcThonk

vocal shard
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?

umbral reef
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I talk about how peeps get witch hunted by this community and how bad it can get and you respond in an extremely sarcastic looking way..

compact river
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like when ever someone posts in the wrong channel?

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LOL

vocal shard
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shhhh.... no one must know

umbral reef
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This is about VRC so its in the right channel-
But even tho- we should jump channels as this slowmode is zzz

compact river
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im talking about how people are rude af sometimes when someone posts in the wrong chat

vocal shard
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@umbral reef i did not mean for it to come across as sarcastic

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oh

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that was not my intention

umbral reef
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@compact river At times i fully get it though- But most of it is this discord fault and not users even though (myself included) often act diffrent ๐Ÿ‘€

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And its fine tyler, i just recieved it that way and if you did not mean it like that its fine โค

vocal shard
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๐Ÿ˜

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i just have a lot of respect for people who stick up for themselves/others

umbral reef
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I honestly wonder how long its going to take for this game to get a another drama event
A streamer calling out another streamer bigtime, community v community or this chat being raided like the animation community did ages ago

vocal shard
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I think it would be neat if a mod was able to write a message, and pin it to the front of the channel. So like in the bug report, rather than tupper constantly pasting the same message, just having one that stays ahead of the messages so it can't be missed

compact river
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never notice any of the streamer drama things

umbral reef
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They should just make an support channel so the dumbness gets split up

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And bug reports becomes and channel the admins can look in again

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Instead of providing support themself in there~

compact river
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community-support?

unkempt swan
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i feel sick by server...

umbral reef
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Well- Its 99% of what happens in this discord if we ignore the complaining and negativity ๐Ÿ‘€

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Would be neat to get it in a more clean place so that the other channels can become better places

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that dont result in someone asking for help mid convo and being ignored or killing the conversation

vocal shard
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Most of the avatar and world development support are handed by a few community members. They really are the lifeblood of this server it seems

compact river
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much respect for the helpful people in this discord

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help catch some of the stupid things i forget

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point in right direction

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its a great help

umbral reef
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unity_chan_dab Positivity squad bois nanoadeDAB

median basalt
umbral reef
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Should we post that daily rokk?

median basalt
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I don't wanna get kicked for posting an emoji again

small wing
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3 days and still no announcement on the loading screens being fixed. I'm kinda nervous about this..

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I hope everything is okay on the dev's side. It seems they are trying to fix all this but hitting roadblocks.

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I'm more so worried for them.

vocal shard
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Maybe they've done all they can do.. and they need word back from the server provider

small wing
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3 days is a lot of stress on their end. imagine the stress.

compact river
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server side prob not all that much of a change on the dev side'

small wing
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So you think they are less worried about it being the server provider then?

covert linden
ocean bramble
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!online

floral flaxBOT
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There are 8170 users in VRChat currently

small wing
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non sarcastic btw

covert linden
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There's more than usual on

vocal shard
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The devs and mods here take a lot of sh*t from the community. So props to them for taking all and standing through it ^^

small wing
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I'm just worried they are stuck, which makes it all the more worrisome for if they are going to get it fixed soon.

opaque hawk
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I trust they will fix it.

small wing
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I hope so.

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Well at the end of all this i can see them switching providers lol.

umbral reef
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Doubt it

ocean bramble
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Vrchat 2 incoming

covert linden
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I think that'd be easier said than done

small wing
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Well i mean yeah, lots of contracts and all that..

still lark
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Most things are easier said than done

covert linden
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Yeah like sneezing

vocal shard
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vrchat running on dialup

small wing
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ALL things are easier said than done. > words from a lazy guy on the internet

covert linden
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Im a gorl

small wing
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omg imagine vrchat back when the virtual boy was a thing and if it had internet

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that would be so bad lmao

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but like, oddly aesthetic.

vocal shard
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You want to experience vrchat as if it was on the virtual boy? We have the shaders for that!

small wing
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WAIT I NEED TO MAKE A VIRTUAL BOY AVATAR BRB

vocal shard
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Lol

small wing
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IDEA

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AND SHADERS ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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You are a godsend for this idea. bless you kind sir.

vocal shard
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Screenspace to make everything red. And cut down the fov too a little rectangle. Lol

small wing
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yeet

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found a model to use, just gotta convert it and trim off the extra junk.

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just incase yall wanna crack at it too

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once its done imma post it somewhere too cause why not.

paper bluff
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hello! haven't played in a while and by a while I mean months. Has anything major happened since July?

covert linden
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Yes

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Favourite avatats and worlds... a massive ongoing surver crash

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The uuuuuge

ocean bramble
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Update to Unity 2017.4 soon

paper bluff
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okay so a few of the things that were being discussed then

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thanks

covert linden
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Ylu can also now update to a vrchat acccount if you only have steam

paper bluff
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yeah i already have a vrchat account

covert linden
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The grand lasanga is also now a completed map

vocal shard
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Ranks happened...

covert linden
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You can lay down now

paper bluff
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thank goodness i played since june. was there really a big account purge?

covert linden
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Ive got no information on that

paper bluff
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well all i can say is that my account is still there and that's good.

vocal shard
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I don't think there was any purge

paper bluff
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It's mentioned in the last steam post but maybe they went back on those plans

vocal shard
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But if you go on right now. The server it unstable and people are getting logged off or can't get in. They're working on fixing that

paper bluff
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yeah that's nothing new to me

covert linden
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I dont think theyd just randomly ban tons of accounts needlessly

paper bluff
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it was to do with the ToS updates

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right?

covert linden
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Most I can see them doing is disabling inactive ones until they logged in again

ancient forge
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I think inky is referring to the world purge for optimization

covert linden
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Nah cuz they said luckily their account was still there

paper bluff
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oh world purge? I hadn't heard of that either

covert linden
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Unless their account is a world.. maybe theyre earthchan

compact river
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ooof

paper bluff
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both of my custom worlds are there, everything is there

ancient forge
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Yeah it was avatar worlds

covert linden
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My favourite one is gone

compact river
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avatar worlds that had crazy stuff in them

paper bluff
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makes sense, those were hell to walk through

compact river
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or worlds that just lagged

covert linden
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My favourite one had an expelled from paradise avatar and now I cant find itt

vocal shard
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Well, avatar worlds now have hard limits for avatar optimization. The world now gets declined if any of the avatars have more than 10 materials, 3 meshes, 50 dynamic bones

paper bluff
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that is good ๐Ÿ‘ imo

vocal shard
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Mhmm. Forced optimization was kinda needed

covert linden
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Its sad but I get it at the very least

paper bluff
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any changes in how vrchat runs

compact river
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well the above helps

covert linden
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You can lay down

compact river
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xd

vocal shard
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Possibly in the unity 2017 update were expecting in a few weeks

paper bluff
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cool ๐Ÿ‘Œ any updates to the desktop mode?

covert linden
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You can lay down

vocal shard
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Desktop has a crouch and prone

paper bluff
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nice

covert linden
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But issue is your hands get in your face and you cant see

paper bluff
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oh

small wing
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You can check #announcements where they link to all the updates and stuff.

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lots of cool things there

covert linden
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Its really sad

paper bluff
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yeah that's pretty oofed

covert linden
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I was told the arms used to be normal but I wouldnt know

paper bluff
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so you can lay down, but not really, unless you like looking at your fingers

compact river
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ya

covert linden
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You have like a gun holding animation when you lie down

compact river
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they changed the animation for crouch and broke the lay down one

paper bluff
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well I'll give the game a boot in a bit

compact river
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same day

covert linden
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Good luck

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The games kinda broken right now

paper bluff
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oh right

compact river
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serverss

paper bluff
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yeah you did mention right

covert linden
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Yeah

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Its very sad

small wing
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this is so sad, alexa play--

paper bluff
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will old avatars be broken (future proofed)

small wing
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i will leave now

compact river
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->

covert linden
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Avatars should be okay

umbral reef
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All legacy animations will brick tho wont they

paper bluff
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worlds (also future proofed, i think thats a thing)

compact river
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as long as its not a avatar from a world that got clapped

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->

paper bluff
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legacy animations brick?

compact river
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they ded yes

paper bluff
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ok

small wing
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@paper bluff If you have around 217 avatars like me then nope, all my old avatars are broken from 2 years ago. but if you dont have a lot of content you should be fine.

vocal shard
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They removed them due to an exploit

paper bluff
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oh makes sense

vocal shard
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People could basically destroy a world with them

umbral reef
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Well- They are called legacy for a reason and fairly sure only the current unity version still supports them so

paper bluff
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okay

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I used some legacy animations for avatar props I think, I'll see if they work still

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the alternative is generic right?

small wing
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Legacy animations could basically be used having the same name as a gameobject in the room, which would in theory let them remove colliders from floors and such i think..

paper bluff
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uhoh yeah that sounds a bit clapped

small wing
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never saw it happen, but apparently it was too risky.

umbral reef
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Well they are already clapped

paper bluff
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true

umbral reef
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But i mean that they flat out wont work anymore in the new unity even the ones that still work in the current version

paper bluff
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they never work properly, mostly because they are legacy

small wing
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2017 unity has particle mass transferrrrrrrrrrr ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

paper bluff
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trouble looping and stuff

small wing
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im so hyped for particles

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gonna make an avatar that spawns in little elevator platforms to ride on

paper bluff
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there's a lot you can do with them but I never got involved because they were very fiddly

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3d particles (mesh, right?) never worked properly for me

umbral reef
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Also some dope shader stuff will be a thing if i recall right

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Aka no need for camera work around anymore

paper bluff
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ok

grave dagger
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Does the new unity version of VRChat perform better?

umbral reef
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Why would it?

grave dagger
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Multi core rendering? i dunno

umbral reef
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Then they first have to program that in

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and most of the heavy hitting things are still bound to being on one core each
So if 10 people use there 5 dynamic bone script that effects 200 bones total and then a nice 4 colliders...

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Things wont improve a lot

pseudo basalt
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Technically that's the job of the engine

grave dagger
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dang

small wing
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@paper bluff sorry was afk for a sec, yeah mesh particles and possibly 2d colliders as well.

paper bluff
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๐Ÿ‘Œ

pseudo basalt
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And when the engine gets upgraded it might have different rendering algorithms and whatnot

paper bluff
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ok

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any other updates like shift in shader use or anything?

umbral reef
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Im not that well known on how unity renders things GWnanamiLaceShrug
So cant say that and all i did was more of a guess

small wing
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I could show you how to use mesh particles if you want, super easy to explain just not easy to understand when you tackle it on your own (its better if someone shows you)

pseudo basalt
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They aren't programming everything from scratch, unity handles a lot of things itself

paper bluff
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@small wing yeah maybe. Once I get back into the swing of things

small wing
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Someone remade minecraft using only a shader

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minecraft shader edition

pseudo basalt
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And upgrading unity can improve performance but I think it's not until 2018 when you can script the rendering pipeline

paper bluff
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i think i saw that?? maybe??

small wing
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its nuts

pseudo basalt
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Or something along those lines

umbral reef
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@pseudo basalt 2018 would improve performance alot indeed

paper bluff
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but the most popular toon shaders are still cubeds and noenoe right?

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or at least most used

small wing
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yep, but my shader is a better toon shader ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

pseudo basalt
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Regardless, good performance eventually, when the stars align

umbral reef
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But imo putting limits on what users can upload might be an faster and long them way to improve fps for users

paper bluff
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I can't say i liked either noenoes or cubed

umbral reef
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They started with avatar worlds so who knows

small wing
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Mine is basically toon shader with reflections and occlusion mapping. ๐Ÿ‘Œ

pseudo basalt
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it all adds up, so yeah, it's good that they are forcing optimizations

small wing
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and the reflections are matcapped so they go whereever you go ( worlds dont break em ) ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

paper bluff
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anyone here used xiexie's (i think it was called)

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it sounds a little like yours but it was always clunky

small wing
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Yeah, he helped me make my toon shader actually

paper bluff
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cool

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it had matcaps too right?

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dodgy lighting in worlds is always an issue though

small wing
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He has a lot of parameters in there, but its because he was trying to add a ton of features. Mine is the only one that used matcaps.

paper bluff
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uh ok

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nice

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i'll check it out

small wing
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If i can find a better pic then i will post it in there, but those are the only ones so far.

paper bluff
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i'll try it out in unity then

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thanks

small wing
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I will post it there for ya

paper bluff
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ok

vocal shard
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what does it mean when it says "Your authentication failed"

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The server issue

small wing
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Servers are broken

fallow summit
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Everybody be careful with 'YUAH' user.

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she is ha*ker

small wing
fallow summit
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Never download a file if she sends it to you.
She will steal a look at your computer screen.
There are already many victims.
Don't trust her. Never.

umbral reef
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Dude

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Why wold you EVER download a file from a stranger
And let stand run it

vocal shard
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Uh... Why are people downloading files from a random?

small wing
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Fear mongering is all i see here. Could also be slander.

fallow summit
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I am not a victim.

vocal shard
fallow summit
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She will talk to you first in a friendly way.

small wing
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For all we know this person you are talking about could be the victim and you could be spreading misinformation about them.

umbral reef
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But you can report people via discord

fallow summit
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Don't approach her if possible.

umbral reef
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Get your buddies to do that first
Also- Unless you can provide proof please dont throw these things into the world...

fallow summit
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@vocal shard

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I saw you with her.

vocal shard
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?

fallow summit
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Be careful. plz

vocal shard
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ok I will

fallow summit
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Don't think I'm lying.
I have a big world

umbral reef
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Wat?

fallow summit
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If you need proof, I'll show you.

small wing
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The size of your success says literally nothing about you as a person Cimomo..

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You could be slandering someone for all we know.

fallow summit
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It's a very serious problem.
If possible, report to VRchat developers.

umbral reef
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Its a discord thing you report it to discord

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Not another dev team as they cant do jack shit about it

small wing
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Can we get a chat mod to explain this?

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Im afraid to ping after what happened yesterday.

umbral reef
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And if you have that proof then YOU should be the person reporting it not us

compact river
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do the reporting yourself or people who have proof

vocal shard
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pretty sure witch hunting is not allowed here anyway

small wing
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Exactly, its slanderous.

fallow summit
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I will.
Please give me a message if you want to talk.

umbral reef
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@small wing Admins =/= chatmod though
Admins can legit only be pinged in extreme emergencies and chat mods just if this chat is more of a cluster fuck then normal

small wing
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Ah.

compact river
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talking with other users does not do much for you

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reporting to discord

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prob a lot more

small wing
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If anything coming in here to talk about it and "warn people" only seems sus.

umbral reef
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But ima fix myself somve food ๐Ÿ‘‹ have fun

compact river
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name changes are easy for people on discord anyway

small wing
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Enjoy @umbral reef ๐Ÿ‘‹

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๐Ÿ‰

vast lynx
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Herro ๐Ÿ˜€

small wing
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@vast lynx ๐Ÿ‘‹

true sky
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i am not sure why people download crap from randoms anyways

compact river
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~>

vocal shard
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models are an exception cause i cant do much without them

pearl hamlet
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Does anyone know how long it will be before my account is authorized to log in and upload new avatars? I switched from the steam version and I don't know how long it will be now before I can actually do anything

true sky
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i am meaning malicious files

vocal shard
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i make project folders and download about 30-40 models a day.. so its not so much random..

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ah yes well.. newbs.

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tis all i can say..

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I'm happy that people are embedding malicious files inside third party though

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it teaches them a lesson.

true sky
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

vocal shard
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@pearl hamlet there is no set time, play until you get it

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it's usually pretty fast

pearl hamlet
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but it won't even let me log in

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it says I'm "not authorized"

vocal shard
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I haven't opened unity once today..

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try to write your username and password in a txt file, and copy paste them into the login page instead of writing them

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I want to but its depressing when you cant upload just to do a local test.

true sky
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after i get the message, i am usually connected again

still lark
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Does that mean you haven't even tried?

pearl hamlet
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ok, I'll try

true sky
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but yeah, it is sorta annoying

vocal shard
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@still lark yaw yaw

still lark
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lmao

pearl hamlet
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aight I logged in thanks y'all

vocal shard
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enjoy

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np, make some friends and explore some worlds and you'll be able to upload stuff soon too

pale osprey
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vrc is my life

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so i need to play it every day

vocal shard
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using pepe

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slow mode

vast lynx
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๐Ÿ˜ก Fudge slow ๐Ÿ˜ก

violet quest
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anyone else getting your authentication failed?

cold ibex
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._. Everyone basically theyโ€™re fixing it

kind folio
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๐Ÿ™„

dawn stone
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Slooooow moooode

ember forum
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slowmode still on

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oh boi

noble dirge
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gg slowmode

echo schooner
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Hey all, I haven't been in VRchat for a while. Is someone willing to give me a brief summary of what has changed?

vast lynx
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I would but only just getting back into it myself. Sorry i can't help much ๐Ÿ˜•

rough flax
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@echo schooner Everything broke...

unique nova
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except my spirit

echo schooner
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Well I guess I did say brief ๐Ÿ˜…

cedar oasis
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I like the game but it takes me 10-15 min to load in

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and I don't know why

unique nova
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i've heard a few people say the same in the past couple days

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are you running a mechanical hard drive?

vocal shard
winged canopy
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Did vrchat break? It keeps telling me authentication failed

cedar oasis
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not 100% sure on a dell 5567 laptop or something like that

vocal shard
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the servers are having issues since 2 weeks ago
be patient

winged canopy
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o

unique nova
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yeah that's your issue, you've just got long load times in general combined with some of the connection ones currently

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sometimes it'll take a few attempts to load into a world before it's successful right now, so if you have a slow hard drive it'll be exponentially slower

cedar oasis
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yeah can't enter any other world except for home and when I do try and aren't disconnected takes forever or I just don't load in

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the ratio of wether or not I even g3et into the hub is 1/99

vast lynx
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I've been having rhe load issues but i just let it do that while listening to something to pass time ๐Ÿ˜

unique nova
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some people have had results clearing their cache, otherwise yeah I just wait it out and it'll load me in

cedar oasis
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and the game keeps telling me y laptops graphics drivers needed updating when they don't (I checked the core for updates and there were none)

vast lynx
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Also been trying to figure out a way to work vb audio cable to play music and sing but im too dumb to figure it out

cedar oasis
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?

unique nova
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where are you checking for updates?

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if you're just using device manager that won't really help you

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@vast lynx do you have vb cable set up already?

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a simple way is to go into the properties of both your mic and music, select "listen to this device", then set the listening device to your vb cable input

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then use the cable output as your mic ingame

cedar oasis
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yeah went to aboutpc left cclick then device manager then had it check the cores

vast lynx
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Mhm i installed it and such, checked my playback devices even see its a mic option in vrchat but from there dunno what to do. Probs looked at the wrong tutorial

unique nova
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you'll want to just find out what graphics card you have and check from the manufacturer's site @cedar oasis

cedar oasis
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okay thanks

still lark
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@cedar oasis AMD I assume, is it above 24.20.11019.1004?

cedar oasis
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amd prosscer and radeon graphics

unique nova
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@vast lynx I can dm you pictures of the vb cable setup if you want

vast lynx
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@unique nova yeah on my phone and new to it so not sure how to open a dm

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I'm a special little snowflake ๐Ÿ˜€

still lark
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Long hold on a profile picture

cedar oasis
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checking web site now

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found radeon r5 in general and it auto decected and says the lastes update came out 11/29/2018

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Okay detecting hardware

safe yacht
#

So Iโ€™m still getting the authentication failures and crashes when joining worlds. Whatโ€™s up?

cedar oasis
#

don't know they started happening to me as of yesterday

empty wharf
#

Vrchat is bugged right now, best not to dwell on it for the moment. The Devs are doing what they can.

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Theyโ€™re under pressure.

cedar oasis
#

Okay understood ๐Ÿ‘Œ

safe yacht
#

Iโ€™ll dwell on it.

cedar oasis
#

And I don't want to do anything untill graphics drivers are finsished being updated

worthy pollen
#

anyone got this problem? ..... Your authentication failed it does show for me whole day already

cold ibex
minor monolith
#
$ you're gay
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@cold ibex

cold ibex
#

... really

haughty osprey
#

Is anyone having a problem with the new steam vr update that doesn't allow your headset to work with play space mover?

compact river
#

hello im new to discord

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:^)

cold ibex
#

hii

compact river
#

dats a new account

pseudo basalt
#

Playspace mover doesn't work because input emulator got killed by latest update

#

@haughty osprey

haughty osprey
#

okay

safe prism
#

@minor monolith tex $im_already_gay + 'tyvm'

vocal shard
#

i'm constantly getting the "Your Authentication Failed" error in a background of clouds

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like what?

fleet ice
#

yeah bro its vrchat being broke

nocturne ibex
#

@vocal shard Yup. We're all seeing this error. It's server side

carmine nebula
#

Tupper needs the premium router package for his servers

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<:

rough flax
#

Tupper is the owner of vrc now?

compact river
#

TupperWare Chat

vocal shard
#

No...

mighty galleon
#

im in him often, but most the time in im p#0048 more, since thats my favorite

tardy jungle
#

guys whats better htc vive or WMR?

north axle
#

Why would Tupper become the owner of VRChat?

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Vive is better, but it's more expensive.

vocal shard
#

Why wouldn't he*?*

tardy jungle
#

what is better?

north axle
#

Vive.

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But it's more expensive.

safe prism
#

mav, the money you spend is exactly how much better one is over the other

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every penny spent is quality in this industry atm

tardy jungle
#

Who will give me an example than he is better than WMR

north axle
#
  • processing *
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Do you mean why it's better than WMR?

fleet ice
#

i'm going for wmr because its affordable and entry level

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and if i like it ill save for the big boys

tardy jungle
#

What is the difference between VIVE from WMR

rough pulsar
#

Vive has significantly better tracking than WMR

compact river
#

better tracking with full set up and more fov i think from when i used one

north axle
#

Vive has much better tracking.

compact river
#

dont get me wrong when you can see the controllers the tracking is great on wmr

fleet ice
#

wmr tracking if you keep the controllers out of site for a period of time it looses track

north axle
#

You can also customize it in a way if you're into technical engineering.

compact river
#

great for budget , not great if you dont have built in bluetooth

tardy jungle
#

me for only vrchat

north axle
#

Eh... it depends.

fleet ice
#

it's all down to your preferences

#

watch comparison vids

safe prism
#

some WMR are cheap, some are as expensive as the vive

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

tardy jungle
#

yea true

north axle
#

If you're going to get full body tracking in the future, Vive is the only good option.

compact river
#

wmr will work fine for vrc as long as you have Bluetooth to connect the controllers

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but if you have the money to toss no point in not going vive

tardy jungle
#

ehhh, I do not have enough money for VIVE, now I have to postpone the purchase again ๐Ÿ˜ซ

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thanks for the discussion

compact river
#

i use Lenovo wmr

safe prism
#

reasonable bluetooth USB dongles that work for WMR are just $20 or so

north axle
#

Not to sound rude or anything, but if you're disabled, WMR would be enough, definitely.

tardy jungle
#

ahah

compact river
#

sitting in a chair it can have problems tracking if you dont sit up strait

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no dark rooms

tardy jungle
#

ehhh

compact river
#

desk lamp will work

tardy jungle
#

Have to sit back and save money

#

:c

#

for vive

north axle
#

WMR may be good as your first VR headset, but keep in mind it's not perfect and you'll most likely end up getting another one.

vocal shard
#

Cant go wrong with a cheap oculus

tardy jungle
#

I had an oculus but it was stolen)

compact river
#

ooof

tardy jungle
#

want something else now, vive or wmr

supple cedar
#

why does it keep telling me "youre authentication failed"

compact river
#

just hit ok

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server problems

north axle
#

@tardy jungle, how often do you take your headset outside of your home?

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Or at least how often are you planning to?

compact river
#

moving around wmr is ez af

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for portable

north axle
#

Vive definitely doesn't have that advantage.

tardy jungle
#

I took him to a party, and the next morning someone took him to him, we found out who, but could not prove

fleet ice
#

wmr you just plug and play

north axle
#

In case you're going to take a headset with you from time to time, WMR is a good option, actually.

tardy jungle
#

in the future I was planning to take full tracking

north axle
#

It's way more complicated with Vive because of the lighthouse base stations.

fleet ice
#

i'm on that stage where i'm trying to figure out which wmr headset i want

north axle
#

My stations are mounted to the walls, so I never took it outside.

tardy jungle
#

Do you have a vive?

north axle
#

Yeah.

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If it's a matter of months and not years before you can afford Vive, I'd probably wait until then. Otherwise, you may want to consider cheaper headsets.

tardy jungle
#

Maybe someone will play enough and sell me a ViVe here xd

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I do not have enough 30% of the funds to buy ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

elfin ether
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 7981 users in VRChat currently

north axle
#

I suppose you can wait, but it's up to you.

tardy jungle
#

Yes, most likely I will do it ๐Ÿ˜”

north axle
#

I actually developed a decision support system for those who can't decide which headset to buy, but it's just clunky and not good enough (unless I spend more time improving it for some reason).

tardy jungle
#

Right now, I have already decided, I will continue to save on vive ;d

covert linden
#

Ive met tonnnns of vive users who regret vive and suggest occulus

#

We were all talking about it yesterday

north axle
#

I'm gonna re-run my program just out of curiosity. How large is your play area and how good is your PC?

tardy jungle
#

ryzen 5 1600
MSI gtx 1050ti
ballistix 8GB 2666ghz

north axle
#

What about the play area?

tardy jungle
#

1.5x1.5m

north axle
#

The result is "Oculus Rift".

tardy jungle
#

why not vive?

north axle
#

Probably because of the price.

tardy jungle
#

I can customize the terrain

covert linden
#

Just get occulus a lot of people think its more worth it for the money

#

The controllers even have a more dynamic feel I was told

#

Many vive users regret gettng vive but ive never met an oculus user who regrets getting oculus

tardy jungle
#

but I want full tracking

covert linden
#

You caan get full tracking

vocal shard
#

oculus controllers are god tier ... gestures work by actually making the gesture, on vive you push a trackpad (with bad latency too)

north axle
#

I heard someone used Vive trackers with their Rift somehow, but I don't know how easy it should be to set it up.

covert linden
#

There kinects and then one other thing that starts with an N you can use but I cant recall the name..

vocal shard
#

nolo

tardy jungle
#

ohmagudness I am confused

covert linden
#

Yes nolo

north axle
#

Kinect is way too bad.

covert linden
#

Oculus is the one most prefer as far as ive heard

#

You caan stilll do full body

cold ibex
#

Im about to get the vive trackers but I have an oculus (:

tacit plank
#

If you have money you can do anything

covert linden
#

Well yeah but you should get the one thats most suggested not the priciest

#

Im not too clear on if people prefer vive or oculus with full body

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Ask @vocal shard

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Theyre the one who seemed to have the most knowledge on it yesterday

rough pulsar
#

The key difference between vive + trackers fullbody and rift+trackers fullbody is the vive setup doesn't require frequent recalibration as the two different tracking systems (lighthouse & constellation) slowly drift out of sync.

vocal shard
#

both oculus and vive are amazing, the biggest difference being oculus controllers are better and vive has more tracking options

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but you add extra tracking to oculus, it's just a little more effort

#

content wise almost everything runs on both with steamvr

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or native oculus

north axle
#

According to my DSS, if you've got a high-end PC, around $300โ€“500 (based on your location), and you don't have a large play area, you should consider WMR. But, again, it's almost a rushed project and my system isn't as good as I wanted it to be, so don't take an advice I mentioned earlier as my own.

covert linden
#

Yes

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Just find their account by seafching

#

Probably because the servers are broken

#

Do it through the vrchat website maybe

#

You can search their name silly goose

rigid crescent
#

usually you have to do it from the website to block them

#

unsure if they fixed that

covert linden
#

I was able to block someone ingsme before the whole server crash

umbral nova
#

VRChat has had a problem with blocking a user through the client for a long time

#

You've only been able to block a user in the same room or through the website

covert linden
#

Ah makes sense because we were in the same room

sleek ivy
#

I've noticed that actually, kinda annoying when you wanna block someone but the minute they leave, you have to wait until they join again or walk to the computer to do it

steady snow
#

am i able to download my already uploaded avatars from the homepage? if yes, how?

rigid crescent
#

yeah just log in on the website

#

for blocking i mean. you can't download your own avatars

steady snow
#

i heard my uploaded avatars will be gone with the comming update, is that right? ^^'

rigid crescent
#

nope

steady snow
#

so i dont have to worry about anything because i dont have the files anymore?

vocal shard
#

wait

#

you can put full body trackers on oculus?

rigid crescent
#

there's a chance they might not look right nugget

#

but there's a bit of inconsistency on whose avatars are and arent ok

safe furnace
#

that would be a huge yikes actually

rigid crescent
#

yeah

#

Full Body (with third Rift sensor) costs about 630, 570 without the third sensor

#

That's 2 lighthouses (270), 3 trackers (300), and if 60 more if you want the third Rift sensor.

#

so on the low end it's 970 for the Rift+Full Body (no 3rd sensor) whiel the Vive it's 800

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all before tax of course

#

and in USD

neon flume
#

I bought my lighthouses used which saved a bit but it's definitely only cost effective if you already have a rift and you want full body. If you're starting from scratch just getting the vive is a far more economical option.

obsidian pagoda
#

servers btw

subtle prawn
#

Yea, I was about to say, unless you buy used shrugs

obsidian pagoda
#

i want a refund

rigid crescent
#

yeah that's why I usually ask "Well do you want cheaper full body?" when people ask which to get

#

like if your long term goal is that, then you might as well get a vive

#

in the same vein, with the Rift its less of an immediate economic impact right at this moment, which lets you enjoy VR earlier than you could with the vive

#

you just "pay for it" later, if your goal is full body

obsidian pagoda
#

alternatively wait

rigid crescent
#

alternatively dont get vr

#

and you save even more money forehead

gleaming patio
#

i think having vive lighthouses already is an investment in the future

#

as long as they keep working :kappa:

neon flume
#

Has anyone heard about them failing? I know they should eventually given the moving parts but I've yet to hear of a lighthouse dying from old age.

languid beacon
#

I have Lighthouse 1.0's, but I'm concerned if they drop support for them in the future in favor of 2.0 lighthouses

rigid crescent
#

the pro works with the 1.0, so probably not

languid beacon
#

@neon flume Lighthouses are made from the same motors as solid state harddrives, except they run at a fraction of the speed. they will last decades

rigid crescent
#

not that he pro is a true 2.0

languid beacon
#

don't worry about them running down. they will become outdated far sooner then they will break

rigid crescent
#

yeah, i know people who actually leave them on for some insane reason and theyve been fine for over a year

languid beacon
#

Erm actually you are supposed to leave them running forever.

#

that's how you best take care of a motor like that

#

the only stress is revving up and revving down.

#

just keep them plugged in forever.

rigid crescent
#

really? why would they even offer an option for them to turn off under the Bluetooth settings?

languid beacon
#

Yes that's pretty much how that type of motor works. longest lifetime is to just let it run. speed up and speed down is much harsher.

neon flume
#

I dislike the electric whine of the motors so I do turn them off at night. I know I should keep them running but it's hard to sleep with them on. The red dots look a little ominous in the dark too ๐Ÿ˜…

languid beacon
#

I mean, unplug it if you're going to move or rotate it at ALL, since moving it while it's on is even worse

#

I am 31 and am long past the point of being able to hear that frequency DX

#

I can't hear those things they use to annoy teenagers, lol

median crest
#

It keeps doing it

compact river
#

just hit ok

rigid crescent
#

oh maybe the standby keeps the motors moving and just turns other features off

#

otherwise it seems weird they'd offer such a blatant way to turn them off if you're not supposed to

median crest
#

Ughh

vocal shard
#

wow

#

tupper broke vrc

rigid crescent
#

yeah now that I get close, i can hear them still whirring in standby, so that's an option i guess

rancid vessel
#

Anyone else still getting disconnected and timed out error..

median crest
#

Yea a lot of people cant get on

vocal shard
#

server is gg

subtle prawn
vocal shard
#

been like this for 2 weeks already

rigid crescent
#

it's been less than a week lol

subtle prawn
rigid crescent
#

late Tuesday night is when it started

grand zealot
#

Why hasn't this authentication error shit not been fixed yet?

umbral reef
#

Its a funny meme to not fix it

grand zealot
#

Because I absolutely love waiting ten minutes to join a world, only to then time out. omegalul

umbral reef
#

So they dont fix it because of that

grand zealot
#

Sounds about right

median crest
#

At least you can get into the game. Lol unlike myself

ruby burrow
#

I was surprised that despite all the error messages and weird beeps during loading worlds, the game still pretty much ran as normal for me.

light dust
#

its to be expected well they get things underway for for unity 2017 that is all i can think of to all this stuff has thats been happening

ruby burrow
#

The loading screens would instead be replaced be just empty sky boxes and authentication errors, but then the map would suddenly load me in anyway, in pretty much the same time as normal.

night lark
#

slowmode

safe furnace
#

I havent played vrc for 6months and now i wanted to try it out again and meet new people and they have server issues : (

compact river
#

you can not be happy with us discord lurkers?

#

D:

safe furnace
#

True but I was motivated to play it

#

and not have these issues

#

i thought over such a time span they wouldnt have issues like this on a daily base

night lark
#

vrchat keeps loading over and over

rigid crescent
#

really?

#

why did no one mention this?....

ember forum
#

tell them mic

rigid crescent
#

How come no one told us the game was being buggy? No one in the immediate chat above you, no one in multiple channels, no one in the #announcements channel....No one has mentioned the servers being weird

umbral reef
#

sherlok if you joined a few months back you would not have had these problems

safe furnace
#

thats mean :(

#

Really?

#

Hows that, was everything fine?

night lark
#

is vrchat broken or something it wont load

rigid crescent
#

no

compact river
#

im fine for the most part other than that ok button being a bit annoying

rigid crescent
#

it works fine, it's just you

night lark
#

my authentication wont work

#

there we go

safe furnace
#

@rigid crescent some people just come into this discord to ask for bugs or server issues, dont let it tilt you

rigid crescent
#

yeah, it's not a problem anyone else has no matter how much you scroll up or check the #announcements channel. no one whatsoever is having this problem

umbral reef
rigid crescent
#

lol it's the dumb ones that tilt me

compact river
#

people get tilted over these things all the time on this discord lol

night lark
#

are you calling me dumb ;-;

ember forum
#

theres just too many channels

rigid crescent
#

There are a lot of channels, you're right

#

Luckily there's one where they announce things. I forgot the name lol

placid umbra
#

Tired of seeing you be rude to people, chill

safe furnace
#

exactly

ember forum
#

triggered

rigid crescent
#

lol actually

compact river
#

all thats needed

safe furnace
#

guys guys actually calm down its like nothing special that people come here and ask whatever problem they have

rigid crescent
#

It's not, it's just uhhh what's the polite way to do it

safe furnace
#

you tell me

rigid crescent
#

"Not the most intelligent option" to not even attempt to look at anything.

safe furnace
#

ignorant

rigid crescent
#

especially in a time where we're flooded with one person asking, then 5 messages down, another person asks

cold ibex
#

Itโ€™s true though

placid umbra
#

It might bug you, but complaining or being sarcastic isn't going to stop it from happening

ember forum
#

what if servers got fixed 5 seconds ago

placid umbra
#

It's just rude, and non-helpful

rigid crescent
#

This isn't a callout, more of an example. Chayo asked, and 3 messages up Sherlock Noel had already mentioned it

safe furnace
#

Hi Im Noel

compact river
#

story time poggers event?

ember forum
#

hi im red

safe furnace
#

sweet @rigid crescent

rigid crescent
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

stoic dirge
#

yesterady in a nutshell again. gj servers

safe furnace
#

yeh feelsbad

vocal shard
#

maybe make a better announcement that there are still problem ?

rigid crescent
#

it won't matter Svel

vocal shard
#

but that's probably too complicated

safe furnace
#

was thinking about that aswell

rigid crescent
#

If no one checks it, it won't matter basically.

vocal shard
#

also slow mode is big gay

rigid crescent
#

and no one checks it, so it doesn't matter

safe furnace
#

but the people who write a msg in a discord server, are probably checking some server status aswell

rigid crescent
#

you could pin it, do an everyone@, and just about everything else won't check it

safe furnace
#

idk

karmic talon
#

Honestly why do people seem to just ignore announcements

rigid crescent
#

tHey don't check Noel, if they did they'd see under announcements where it says they'll let us know when its fixed

covert linden
#

Because theyre senseless

rigid crescent
#

So just gotta like....ignore them completely lol

karmic talon
#

Even I check announcements and I barely talk here

covert linden
#

I dont check them because theyre always long but I check server status

safe furnace
#

i dont check anything and dont talk in here

rigid crescent
#

there's even a copy pasta in bug report lol

ember forum
#

nah, announce should be ingame

#

like front page before you login or smth

vocal shard
#

the last announcement is too long

karmic talon
#

That too tbh

safe furnace
#

yesss red

vocal shard
#

the average user of vrchat got an attention span of 3 seconds

karmic talon
#

That'd actually be pretty nice, just a sort of announcement page in-game

vocal shard
#

you need a short sentence of less than 10 words to explain the server problems

rigid crescent
#

Well they do have an ingame system for messaging and info like "Hey, you can upload an avatar now!"

safe furnace
#

"server log-in issue"

rigid crescent
#

I've always wondered why it isn't used more often.

karmic talon
#

Idk, I usually like to read up on the things going on with the game

vocal shard
#

how do you announce log in issue in-game if nobody can login ?

rigid crescent
#

They can log in though

vocal shard
#

then all is fine

rigid crescent
#

they just get stuck in an infinite loop lol

vocal shard
#

huh

rigid crescent
#

THe more common issue seems to be just getting stuck in a loop and blackscreening

ember forum
#

well we have a login screen rite

rough flax
#

When you get logged out in real life and have to log back in.

rigid crescent
#

"You guys have login screens, don't you?"

whole lodge
#

Is there a way to slow down the non comfort turning?

#

Looking to do the whole, walking in my play space while turning the camera so it looks like I'm walking naturally with my full body

#

Comfort turning is just so jarring

rare perch
#

im new to vr chat can someone help me upload a costume skin

rigid crescent
#

if you were Cardi I might have done it

cold ibex
#

Lmaooo

rigid crescent
#

it's tied to FPS Rukio

#

so I don't think so

ember forum
#

typical amd temps

crisp siren
#

Hello Guys this is a specs of my friend

#

yesterday she can play vr chat but now she can't play it anymore. It says that you have to update her drivers when she's already in vr chat.

#

Any solution for this?

ember forum
#

stop heating ur house with the gpu

safe furnace
#

always scared of clicking jpg since the screaming site incident when i was 10

crisp siren
#

Its not my laptop fyi

sullen escarp
#

people can do that with any link tho, not just jpgs

safe furnace
#

thats what i learned with 11 then

sullen escarp
#

lol

ember forum
#

well

crisp siren
#

Anyone with the solution for this? She can still play other games like Stardew Valley and Dead by Daylight which means her graphics is not totally dead.

ember forum
#
  1. if she's already in vrchat then why update drivers
  2. what exactly says that you have to update her drivers
  3. sup with the temps
vocal shard
#

Woah, 511.

crisp siren
#

the update just pops out of nowhere

#

She was told to update it and she did.

ember forum
#

what does this update window look like. what process is it

vocal shard
#

I hate updates u.u

#

That warning only happens with AMD gpus. Not sure why it'd be popping up if she has gotten the latest update though.

timid light
#

your not the only one

vocal shard
#

anyone know how many hours of playtime i need to upload avatar? just spent so long making

timid light
#

none i think

vocal shard
#

There's no set time on how long you need to play.

#

Ahhh sucks I don't know brother sorry

crisp siren
#

Hmm so what do you think is the problem.

ember forum
#

after 250.000 hours you'll get ur rank for sure

vocal shard
#

it says i need more play time

#

i have 18hrs

#

Omg that's touch :"\

#

To much *

#

i just spent too many hours making avatar and im ready to be calm

#

I'd help but I have no idea about the AMD stuff with the game-

#

Maybe vrchat is just acting up it lagg me out like 7 times already

crisp siren
#

Thank you

ember forum
#

there's no set time so ranking depends. I think it actually depends on ur popularity ( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

crisp siren
#

yeah AMD sucks

#

Never buy AMD on anything..

vocal shard
#

I have amd ;-;

#

is there ceiling fan emote?

ember forum
#

also as far as that amd problem goes, you can make it stop

crisp siren
#

Amd sucks ;c sorry..

vocal shard
#

It's OK that's life for u n.n good luck with ur problem :"o

ember forum
#

but it kinda depends on what pops the window, most likely an amd process that isn't required to run

crisp siren
#

I had a laptop that has AMD graphics too.. and it sucked.. Dota 2 on Low settings Omegalul

#

and then after I got desktop I smashed that laptop to the ground..

safe furnace
#

Dota 2 Omegalul

vocal shard
#

I need a new grafics card I can only handle like 12 ppl in vr chat da amd :-:

#

bros i play on a 2009 macbook pro

safe furnace
#

okay dude noone can top that

ember forum
#

you win mr baker

vocal shard
#

through geforce now

#

Wow no way :"o on vr ?

#

That honestly amazing

lofty tundra
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mystery im playing vrchat on a rx 580 in vr and i have absolutly no problems

ember forum
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rx580 is basically gtx 1060

lofty tundra
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a little weaker then the 1060 but basicly yes

vocal shard
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when i enter that fully populated open mic night worlds the sound makes my audio dither and blow my eardrums while crashing my computer

lofty tundra
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ooof i think vrchat server just completly died...i got kicked out of the world and im now in a never ending loading screen

ruby burrow
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I play VRC on a GTX960. It handles the game fine and is normally sitting around 60% load. It's the CPU that matters most of the time in this game.

fleet ice
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is i5-6400 decent cpu for vrchat

lofty tundra
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squishy, do you play desktop or VR

ruby burrow
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The graphics card usually only becomes a bottleneck when looking at something fairly unusual.

lofty tundra
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in desktop the gpu doesnt matter that much yes

ruby burrow
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VR

safe furnace
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ill guess vr

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ez

ember forum
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in vr is matters only twice as much as the desktop

lofty tundra
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i got said multiple times that im running the best cpu for vrchat becsuse of best single core performance

ruby burrow
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I'm running a very out of date i5-2500k, but have got it overclocked to 4.6ghz, so it seems to do alright overall.

quick snow
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what are VR games more demanding than the non-VR ones? CPU or GPU?

compact river
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mostly cpu with vrchat it feels like

ruby burrow
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Most VR games are more GPU demanding than CPU. VRC is just kinda weird like that, being the opposite.

ember forum
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vr is more demanding on the gpu

vocal shard
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@lofty tundra is vr down?

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BRUH

lofty tundra
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vr is more gpu because of how it displays the games compared to normal "flatscreen" games

vocal shard
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10th time today ive gotten disconnected

ember forum
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whatever game it is, overall you basically have to render everything twice cuz 2 eyes.

rigid crescent
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๐Ÿค

safe furnace
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YES MIC

ember forum
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huehuehue

ruby burrow
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Probably just down to the fact that 80% of the games optimisation is the players job, and we tend to cut corners that professionals wouldn't.

compact river
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~>

quick snow
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I have never had a VR headset before, so there are 2 screens?

lofty tundra
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yes

safe furnace
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yes

rigid crescent
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There's one per eye

quick snow
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lol so it legit feels like 3D

ruby burrow
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There are, but you don't see them like two screens. There's a set of lenses in the way.

ember forum
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yes, there's ur left eye and right eye. The game gets rendered from slightly different angles

quick snow
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oh shit

rigid crescent
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I don't know where I heard this, but I've heard people say you're rendering twice per eye, not once?

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I don't really get that though, it doesn't sound right.

ruby burrow
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And it's true absolute 3D too, nothing like that awful "3D TV" nonsense that companies were trying to sell a while back.

quick snow
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that has to be amazing ๐Ÿ˜„ looking forward to get a VR headset in the future

ember forum
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there are tricks to optimize some things out and render them only once, but vr is heavier nonetheless

vocal shard
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is anyone else riding this loading loop

rigid crescent
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Maybe that had to do with mirrors or something? It's been a while since I heard it but it kinda stuck iwth me as something odd lol

hollow patio
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are the servers down?

rigid crescent
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๐Ÿค

compact river
quick snow
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I never knew that it actually has 2 screens viewing 2 different angles making it 3D like irl

compact river
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@hollow patio

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forgot this was slow mode

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ooof

safe furnace
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@rigid crescent im proud of you

ember forum
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slowmode so slow

rigid crescent
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Slowly gaining XP

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Except it's Undertale XP

ember forum
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hue

safe furnace
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im a normie ive never played undertale

rigid crescent
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Undertale is pretty normie I think

quick snow
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people say HTC Vive is better than Oculus Rift, it is also more expensive, but is the experience that much better as the price?

vocal shard
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i spent my whole day making avatar i cant upload avatar because i need to play more i try to play and i am an unable to play i am going to file a complaint with the irs im sorry ur all going jail

rigid crescent
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It was more of a tween thing when it released though, I only ever watched a friend play through it a few times

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LOL Pay your taxes vrchat

ember forum
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xd

safe furnace
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FBI open up

ember forum
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are the servers down?

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jk

safe furnace
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no

ember forum
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actually I think I used to have a ping far lower than 200 in this game. wtf happened, did they move the servers to kr or smth

safe furnace
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yeah

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hamachi servers

rigid crescent
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that would be legendary

ember forum
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made me chuckle

safe furnace
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: )

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ok bedtime ggs, peace

ember forum
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nn

timid light
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my microphone now showing in VRChat

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why

rigid crescent
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I get that issue when it's not Enabled through the sound settings before I launch the game

timid light
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its my main microphone thow

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wird well cant test syn talking then

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rip

young ridge
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hi

burnt locust
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am I the only one having problems with the game ?

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it won't let me get into the game by saying athuraising failed

ember forum
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the one and only among thousands of other chosen ones

raven silo
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there tons server problems

vocal shard
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Need help trying to upload a model and it keeps asking for my "You cannot edit your VrChat data while the unity application is running" but I can't do that obviously and it prevents me from inputting the name and upload option last step

compact river
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i know it sounds odd but try resetting layout to factory

teal sable
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Yeah, im having issues uploading my models with unity. It uploads fine, but i cant get it to show up on vrchat.

civic plume
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afternoon.

modern sand
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@teal sable Which version of unity are you using ?

teal sable
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2018.2.18 but im now installing 5.6.3p1

civic plume
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wrong version

teal sable
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hopefully this will solve it

civic plume
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the current live version is 5.6.3p1

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the new version soon to come is 2017.4.15f1

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if im wrong someone correct me

teal sable
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no youre correct, thats why im downloading that one rn lol

civic plume
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okay

vocal shard
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i got v 5.6.3p1

modern sand
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Press the pause button at the top

civic plume
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im not doing anymore Av/wrld work until 2017 is out

vocal shard
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I pressed paused and the avatar finally appeared on the profile but doesn't let me put the name in and upload

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on the profile pic

civic plume
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what you talking about >.>

rigid crescent
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in b4 2017 isn't out for 6 months lol

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chairs were "weeks" too

vocal shard
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Still have the problem basically

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Let me know if any have a fix

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looks like it works , I had to click pause twice

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thanks @modern sand !

opaque hawk
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!cleancache

floral flaxBOT
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You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them

olive trout
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Who else is having problems getting into the game

inner cape
civic plume
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lol its technull

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XD

olive trout
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Oh what's good

civic plume
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sup fam

atomic bloom
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anybody else having an issue with authentication failing?

inner cape
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My god

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Literally few messages up

atomic bloom
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calm down

civic plume
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calm down yeah XD

inner cape
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I am calm

viral yacht
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Anyone have any knowledge with playspace mover?

civic plume
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you are 98.53768% calm, i wanna see that meter go above 99.9885%

inner cape
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What about it? @viral yacht

viral yacht
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I havenโ€™t touched my computer in a few days, and when I went to start up the emulator, it gave me the โ€œfailed to connect to open vr emulator, ensure youโ€™ve installed it. If you have, try running this fix: ...โ€ so I installed the fix and tried but that also says failed, must run as admin

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I tried uninstalling and installing everything again, same issue

civic plume
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maybe you should learn to give your computer a better time since you dont touch much

compact river
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did someone say last update broke it? no idea

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was sure i seen that posted today

inner cape
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Oh yeah, all the advanced settings tools got broken with the steamvr update

compact river
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ya that

viral yacht
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Oh

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So even emulators count

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Didnโ€™t know that

inner cape
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Think there's a new version of the advanced settings that works

signal thunder
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you know who plays vrchat sometimes? pewdiepie. subscribe to pewdiepie

inner cape
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Not sure tho

wind crescent
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Are VRChat personalities on Twitch just Twitch's counterparts to Virtual Youtubers?

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๐Ÿค”

viral yacht
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I was never able to get the advanced settings playspace mover to work, I always had to use the openvr emulator and playspace mover

compact river
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๐Ÿค”

signal thunder
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@wind crescent definitely

inner cape
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Check if there's a new version of AS

viral yacht
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It looks like the newest release of open vr advanced settings is from August 15, 2017

inner cape
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Oh well

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Then not

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I haven't touched mine at all, I don't even know if it's broken or not.

wind crescent
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If the VRChat personalities on Twitch could be revamped to having their own, entirely original character models (that are definitely not a mish-mash of pre-existing character models) - could they too become vtubers?

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๐Ÿค”

inner cape
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I managed to get my original character by finding parts that look similar and putting them together forsenE
Mish mashes aren't bad, c'mon TupperHands

rigid crescent
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they're good :0

wind crescent
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Mish mashes sure would get you in to serious financial or legal concerns if you aspired to become a vtuber though.

inner cape
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That's true

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Look at woops who just took someone's model off da and started selling merch with it as if it was his

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And the creator now has a giant post saying that woops is allowed to do that on their da

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Big streamer influence

wind crescent
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And this guy isn't asking for a dime in return? Nuts.

inner cape
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I don't know about that

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Best way is to take % off each sale

wind crescent
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Speaking of Nuts, that too would be a disastrous outcome if she decided to roll in the direction of becoming a vtuber with a NotKizuna Ai model

inner cape
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But if he just took money for the model itself then he's stupid

rigid crescent
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the entire premsie of being a virtual youtuber is being an original character

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You're a youtuber, except you use a 2D-ish persona

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some go 2D, some go 3D

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also, he as permission "as long as he gives credits and doesn't commercialise with her:

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You also can't really "sell" and mmd. even MMD commissioners (not vrchat ones obviously) say that you're paying for the work to put the parts together, you don't own the finished product

scarlet patio
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anyone know the name of the world with the hank hill jojo avatar?

earnest harbor
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Depends honestly, you can buy ownership of an original character if it's built from scratch and doesn't resemble any other copywritten character. Else it's a pain to get good if it's parted together

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But a custom scratch built model will run you far higher a price than a parted together model

ember forum
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what the fuck is a virtual youtuber

vocal shard
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Characters like kizuna ai

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They have a youtube channel where the character does youtuber stuff. But the actors use mocap and play the character. Some even livestream and such...

ember forum
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youtuber stuff huh

vocal shard
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They try all different stuff... Lets plays, skits, vlog, ect.

ember forum
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I probably shouldnt be surprised after seeing ar miku show

compact river
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thinking about it is it not awkward af recording yourself in a room by yourself?

raven silo
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people do all ready with youtube lol

compact river
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i think having a live chat helps but for real

raven silo
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record them self when infrot there video games shelf

ember forum
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idk, streaming feels awkward too, especially when starting out. And so does playing a trap in vrchat

runic topaz
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Hey so my VRC isnt working. I reinstalled it and its just constantly on a white screen and wont boot up

queen mango
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A white screen? That's new..

covert linden
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Suprising

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A new one

vast lynx
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One time mine just hit the load time then just sat there fully loaded til I just closed it.

covert linden
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Mine does that tons

vocal shard
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thats when i just want to throw my pc out the window so fast it goes into orbit towards mars

queen mango
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It may be upgraded into a better computer. Hehe

ebon plank
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Attention For anyone currently experiencing the "Authentication failed" issue, going to steam properties and verifying game files seems to be a temporary fix.

unkempt swan
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Rx 580 4GB also too low performance in VRC

covert anvil
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@ebon plank that won't fix the issue. Not even temp. It's just a Russian roulette joining

unkempt swan
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need GTX1070ti/Vega 56

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and plz do not use lagging avater

covert anvil
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I'd go with a Gigabyte GTX 1080, worth the upgrade

pseudo dawn
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Disconnections out the wazoo LUL

native moat
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same lol

gaunt pine
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yep

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looks like i wont be playing vr chat until its fixed... i want to buuuut yeah cant get past the "Authentication failed" issue

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even after verified files

slender oxide
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disconnectet open mic night

ember forum
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closed mic night

rigid crescent
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dont close me

vocal shard
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what does that even mean in this context?
O.o

queen mango
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Could mean anything

fleet ice
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where can i find that russian pingu avatar anyone know

steel coral
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How are the servers doing tonight?

covert linden
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Not good

steel coral
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Ugh.

obsidian pagoda
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cool servers

mystic sparrow
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๐Ÿ‘

vocal shard
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anyone having low fps?