Also it would allow me to have a cleaner avatar list, my current one is overloaded with avatar i once made
#vrchat-general-2
vernal cave
ruby needle
but if one is banned you can not use the other
vernal cave
Yes its dumb to make another account in order to evade a ban
vocal shard
It could be useful if you want to have a back-up if one gets hacked, but if your second account also gets hacked... Welp a 3rd backup
subtle prawn
lol if someone hax your second account, I'd just give up. I'll feel like I am being targeted
green perch
i need help
queen mango
Yes?
green perch
with unity
"you cannot make your VRchat data while the unity application is running"
glossy wharf
Go out of play mode
Click the play button at the top, it shouldnt be blue, when you press the upload button it will show that aswell but its meant to be in play mode then
green perch
i did, but I still get that error when i want to upload a avatar
glossy wharf
Well
When you press the upload button
Its meant to be like that
You fill out the form in your game window then
And press the upload button in there
green perch
i cant
umbral reef
Go to #avatars-2-general and just show us a screenshot of the program
glossy wharf
^
green perch
in #avatars-2-general P?
umbral reef
Yes
green furnace
lapis lintel
nah, they're just agreeing with ya
twin vessel
where's a good place to get assets for world creation?
inner cape
Make them yourself 
mortal sky
why cant i upload a avatar on vrchat, i played for 48 HOURS!
meager solstice
must not have reached the trust level yet
it can take some time, just play normally it'll come eventually
mortal sky
ok thanks
lone ibex
ruby needle
No Official Support is done trough Discord, neither here nor DM's
If you want to contact the team for a private or specific matter send a mail to either Support@VRChat.com or Moderation@VRChat.com
scenic briar
hello
rough flax
This chat is straight deadass dead.
vocal shard
frank kayak
Can someone help me with my Avatar please?
Every avatar I switch to is a red hologram
frank kayak
How do I fix it? reinstall the game?
lapis lintel
bro
somber rapids
vocal shard
@frank kayak that means either the avatar is broken, or you simply couldn't load it in. Some have been able to fix that error by clearing their cache.
frank kayak
No I mean all of them, people can't see my avatar either, even the default ones
They called it the red avatar of death or something
vocal shard
!Cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting everything within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat apart from output_log.txt and config.json if you have them
vocal shard
^ try that first
frank kayak
Thanks! I'll try it now!
queen mango
New announcement from Tupper
vocal shard
Just announcement for an updated beta sdk ^^
lapis lintel
ooh
frank kayak
I still have the avatar issue. I have a bar over my head with "0.0" too.
queen mango
Could be a slow internet connection.
vocal shard
Oof... If thats the case and its happening with the default avatars as well... Probably network or something serverside
queen mango
^
frank kayak
I'm new and just made my account, would that have something to do with it?
somber rapids
Nah
vocal shard
No
queen mango
Nope
somber rapids
It's a connection issue it sounds like
queen mango
It is only a network issue. Your account isn't to blame
frank kayak
So I just wait it out? Haha
marsh reef
Keep an eye out, someone is trying to dox in vrchat
frank kayak
Gotcha, thanks!
queen mango
Damn.. Doxxers?
marsh reef
yep
somber rapids
Is it the famous hacker 4Chan? 
indigo fern
4chan?!?!!
vocal shard
O.o
hasty wedge
😱 4chen
somber rapids
Come to melt our CPUs through hcks again!
queen mango
Don't remind me of that Burger King Foot Lettuce guy ever again! Meow~
vocal shard
Not mah CPU!!!
subtle prawn
As soon as I read the dox comments, my power went out 
vocal shard
O.o
marsh reef
the guy was a joke, he was wall hacking but, he spat out some random email at me
vocal shard
Lol
queen mango
Coincidence, Silkh?
subtle prawn
I think not!
lapis lintel
i think so :>
half plover
question: what would be interesting in a world that is Sonic Forces' Null Space?
i have it pretty much done but i dont have a single idea of what might be interesting in it, so it's currently just a blank world
any ideas or recommendations for it?
half plover
i kinda meant what objects or terrain or something would be interesting in it
i already have the post processing with bloom and chromatic aberration
lapis lintel
oshit
you've already met my requirements. GG
legit tho
lay down some 8 k textures for the ground and make some ground in Zbrush or some shit
C4D can do that too with a random noise generator mapped to a plane
half plover
that doesnt really fit Null Space's theme, though
also, screenshot of it https://i.imgur.com/uEAAak8.jpg
lapis lintel
goes to show how much i play sonic games
half plover
yeah, the only things that really happen in Null Space is a less than 30 second, completely automated run section in stage 24 and a less than two minute section as the final phase in the final boss, also auto-run
so im not really sure what to put because i didnt think this far ahead and i dont want to waste all the effort i put into the shaders and such
lapis lintel
i'm not in my 3D designer mood at the moment otherwise i'd give you helpful advice :B
inner cape
3D dEsIgNeR mOoD
vocal shard
hey gais
my girlfriend is trying to change her home world on vrchat but its not letting her
like she resets it and makes another map her home but it just goes back to the old one
any pro tips
gamers
inner cape
vocal shard
ty
inner cape
Just get gud
vocal shard
u
sour solar
i got a question if someone could help me a mite quick because this morning my oculus worked fine but then when i tried to get into it later today (same day and nothing changed) it doesnt show any image even though it tracks and was wondering if anyone had the same issue before and a way to fix it
hasty wedge
usually going to task manager and killing off oculus bla bla x64 would fix it
sour solar
well i've restarted my computer a few times and tryed that the manual way but it just doesnt wanna show me anything
hasty wedge
dawn pecan
Loose cable maybe?
sour solar
nope just got done reseating all them before you said that and still no dice
hasty wedge
Is it running as admin
sour solar
yup
hasty wedge
try without
sour solar
it keeps just staying orange until i put my head in it then the light disappears entirely when i do
it's like something isn't turned on or something
my oculus center is saying something might be temporarily unavailable and if the issue persists to contact support
hasty wedge
sour solar
feelsbadman
hasty wedge
any chance u accidently placed the hdmi om the mobo?
sour solar
nothing changed it was working this morning
hasty wedge
o rite
sonic elk
if oculus isnt saying the cable is unplugged. very good chance the cable has broken. happened to me recently so had to order a new cable
median basalt
Oculus software is running right? You didn't set it to run as admin? @sour solar
sour solar
so the oculus software runs automatically on startup
and it gets a connection and everythin cuz i can hear the sound just the video side of things kinda screws about
vocal shard
@sour solar i had the problem a while back it's a loose usb in your oculus headset, ill dm you how to fix it if you want
when your light is literally orange but turns black when you try to put it on
placid zealot
I'll pm you an idea for a solution as well. I had this problem with the oculus straight out of the box. I ended up deleting some file in the oculus file wich apperantly caused the error. I'll have to look up again what though.
tacit plank
Does anyone know why my Unity avatar rendering is using 200 drawcalls on making a shadow map? It's drawing 2 avatars with 1 mesh each
That, or it's drawing about 200 shadowmaps (of 2048x2048 a piece)
void blade
just a question, somesone else have issue with audio be steamed in wrong device?
or be completly absent
after closing vrchat
basicallly first the audio come only to pc, then i configured the steamvr to change the audio to rift when using steam vr apps
that fix worked but when i close the game and unplug and plug again the audio totally not work on oculus rift
delicate willow
is anyone else having an issue uploading avatars right now?
vocal shard
no
void blade
@delicate willow the upload menu did not appaer?
delicate willow
no its just been uploading file for 15 minues the bar hasnt moved
it took like 8 minutes about an hour ago to finally upload which was weird cause its usually like 30 seconds
void blade
for me like 30 minutes yesterday
tacit plank
Be sure to disable "future proof". Idk it it helps with Unity 2017 conversion, but it slows down uploads by a lot
delicate willow
yep i have that off
vocal shard
Just uploaded one, didn't have a problem.
delicate willow
hmm i restarted my computer and its still not moving
median basalt
Future proofing doesn't help with the 2017 process, it just uploads a unity package of your avatar alongside it
It's not necessary right now because old shaders still transfer over without a rebuild
It's basically a free backup of your avatar or world, the only problem is that we cannot officially retrieve the package yet.
delicate willow
turns out it was the pause button was getting activated for some reason
empty bridge
when they gonna fix this bug? everytime i press exit, it always stucked http://prntscr.com/lk8qle
my only option is to ctrl + alt + del
ivory folio
main leaf
how do you connect your steam account with vrc?
indigo fern
log into vrchat with your steam account and in the settings theres an upgrade button on the bottom right
with further instructions there
main leaf
im still the "new user" rank when i was atleast trusted before
wheat moth
Good morning, all
cold talon
morning Good
Oof
sterile drift
k
cold talon
Got k'd 
wheat moth
how are you guys this fine day?
umbral reef
Im sick- Got almost no voice but got to work at home and sleep during work so alright
vocal shard
I need friends
polar bone
Make some
ocean bramble
Good evening 
vocal shard
hi
wheat moth
Another day at work, another day of being on discord 😁
ocean bramble
Another day at university, another day playing games and making cats 👌
wheat moth
sounds more eventful that my day
void blade
anyone having audio issue with vrchat?
to be not streaming in headset after the first use
and for fix need to restart the pc
languid beacon
@vocal shard Use. Guardian. DX save an HMD’s life.
neon flume
I don’t think the guardian activates fast enough to spare my walls. The south wall of my room is scarred with dents and scratches left behind by friends trying the rift for the first or tenth time. Even shrinking the guardian boundaries in isn’t enough to dissuade them from reaching past the blue barrier.
I’ve resigned myself to let it happen and desperately hope that they avoid hitting my computer monitors. Those oculus ads where the walls melt away need to be reality sometime soon 😓
safe prism
Guardian/etc has never saved me
I use it as a reference for where my world is and that’s about it
rough pulsar
@neon flume I don't know if it works with the Rift, but in OpenVR Advanced Settings there's a setting to trigger the boundaries when a device exceeds a set speed factor.
https://github.com/icewind1991/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases
languid beacon
If guardian does not appear fast enough you can just make the guardian walls farther in
safe prism
Shit half the time I just accidentally back into my walls
Can’t avoid what you can’t see xd
languid beacon
I draw them a foot and a half in front of my real walls
cold talon
so basically
if (user velocity==god.speed)
show_boundaries = true;
languid beacon
Yeah at least bashing the back of your HMD is NBD
safe prism
That’d cut into my playspace far too much
neon flume
I’ll check that out Gallium, that might just be what I need! I think shrinking the guardian boundaries has the opposite effect on the people trying my rift, they seem to grow confident reaching beyond the barrier thinking that there’s no wall.
languid beacon
I’d rather hurt myself than my headset lol
safe prism
Same
neon flume
(Superhot is the worst offender, I’m very close to simply pretending that I don’t own that game.)
vocal shard
lol
safe prism
Most of the time I just wanna know where my bed is so if I fall I can vector myself towards
Gorn killed my tv
neon flume
The risk of property damage is literally the reason I haven’t bought gorn. I’ve heard too many stories
languid beacon
Gorn is out?
safe prism
Yeah
languid beacon
How I miss that
safe prism
I’ve broken so many things in VR
vocal shard
I wish I wasn't terrible at modeling lol
safe prism
Luckily I’ve not needed to replace anything
Like my TV was ephemeral at best
My ceiling lamp cover was ephemeral
A roll of Pringles rest in pieces
vocal shard
i downloaded vrchat like 2 days ago and still cant up models
cold talon
gotta rank up 
violet tinsel
Using a vrc account right? Not just a steam profile?
vocal shard
yes
with a vrc acc
@vocal shard it could take weeks even. Just play and it will come
kinda annoying though.
other friends with vr got it in 24h tops
some even in less
and they played less than me ;3;
Since it's not based on time. Its based on activity and other things. I've heard of people getting it at 50 hours, i got it in 4. It varies greatly
neon flume
Making friends might help 😄
It also might not, we don’t really know.
vocal shard
probs manual
i mean i did everything everyone said about the "system", not being an ass never been blocked nor kicked
oh whale
You can't just "follow these steps to rank up"
The entire point is that we don't know the variables. For all we know, they could slightly randomize for each account
im aware. what i meant is that i just abided the rules and hoped for the best. sadly didnt help though
So like, for my alt account that got it in 4 hours. What i did was, i had 3 friends, over known, and i hung out in public maps for hours with a bunch of people. Yet, i know others with more friends and more play time who had to wait closer to 15 hours of active game play
So idk
tacit plank
So nude is fine in private worlds, which means that it's fine to upload them, right?
I had a shader accident, but the result is really great
vocal shard
yes
as long as it stay in private
and nobody is streaming it
That's nice to know
That part always confused me, the NSFW content rules
just can't stream it/broadcast/record it
But the content has to be in private worlds as well
tacit plank
But what if they consider the character too young or something? Then it's like 3 years in England. (And totally legal in more sane countries, especially if it's for the sake of art)
umbral reef
Tl;dr
If no one knows about it no one can report it and you wont get punished
tacit plank
Mods have looked through my stuff before
vocal shard
mods should mind their own fucking business
I get that part, noone can really evade the laws
tacit plank
It's legal where I am, but everybodies judgement differs, so I'm unsure if VRChat wants the model on their server is all
umbral reef
Thats there problem- Not your legal problem
vocal shard
official statement in-game
They can exist in private worlds
as you can see
They can't be shared
friend isntances are considered private
tacit plank
I have a private, unlisted world. It had 2 people in it for over an hour once. I did not create any instances of it
And fair enough
ruby needle
if you want plain rules it's not allowed anywhere.
main leaf
paul
umbral reef
Then why does the game itself state diffrent same for the admins~
ruby needle
the game it self does not state different
vocal shard
it actually does
ruby needle
tho i know about what some admins said. But i said "plain rules"
vocal shard
it state that you can do whatever in private and friend instances as long as nobody is sharing it
ruby needle
the loading screen thing does not say "its allowed there"
main leaf
@ruby needle When i merged my Steam with VRChat account i didnt get my rank back, i should have around trusted but im still user?
ruby needle
it says it will lead to bans in public and so on
ruby needle
yes but doesnt atomatically mean the other is fine.
vocal shard
exactly, nothing
ruby needle
however i repeat again, by plain rules its not allowed
main leaf
paul ^^
ruby needle
and thats what i said
tacit plank
Fair enough
So if you're reported for it, in a private instance, will you be punished?
ruby needle
yes
vocal shard
why would he ?
umbral reef
By plain rules we also cant bypass the poly limit what is retarded
and do much more thats normal within the game
ruby needle
because it means that person wasn't fine with it
ruby needle
thats not how that works
vocal shard
it's a private isntance, meaning that he got invited for a specific reason, seems unreasonable to ban someone for that
tacit plank
Well, if you join private instances, you're signing up for whatever is there, I'd say. But I do get your point
umbral reef
Can we all pretty much agree the rule does not get applied unless its super harsh?
People do suggestive stuff 24/7 within this game and even on stream
That is also technically against the rules
ruby needle
and how much you hate it
main leaf
rip my question..
ruby needle
the rule does not get applied unless someone wants to report you or you do so in public
umbral reef
Its the same 'law' we in the netherlands have for some plant
Can have a bit on you, can even use that plan and stuff but if its extreme your fucked
vocal shard
did you ask the support, rex ?
umbral reef
In public someone still needs to report you so...
ruby needle
@main leaf with that you need to wirte a mail to support, i can't really help you with that.
rough pulsar
@main leaf yeah, drop an email to support@vrchat.com about it, there's nothing we can do here to help, sadly.
main leaf
ty for telling me how to fix it paul
tacit plank
From what I can see, mods don't enforce rules just to enforce them. You only really seem to get punished if you're dumb
But that might change if a mod just decides to dislike me or my model
main leaf
yeah i know you guys cant do shit just asking if its fixable or if i gotta type to someone else
^^
ty
vocal shard
in public, if amod pass by and see you with an nsfw avatar, he can ban you
if you are in private and he joined on you while being hidden
he can't do jack shit
because he wasnt even supposed to be there in the first place
ruby needle
not that they do that at all 
vocal shard
i heard a lot of stories about people having full private world and having 2-3 people in them
even tho it shouldnt be possible
north axle
Don't forget friends+ counts as public too.
vocal shard
apparently it doesnt, pan.
tacit plank
I wouldn't go nude in a friends+ anyways
ruby needle
i personally think even friends non plus should count as public
only invite and upwards is really private
rough pulsar
@main leaf I'm sure they'll be able to sort it out since it's account related stuff and they should be able to fiddle in the backend to set things right.
vocal shard
friends instances are considered private
refer to this https://i.imgur.com/9GoQvu6.jpg
north axle
Friends+ isn't literally "Public", but it's not private either.
tacit plank
He suggests changing it I think. I do kind of get his point with it
vocal shard
from the game own rules, it is 🤷
umbral reef
Svel is more pointing our something is iffy
And that something needs to change
As well- Communication is the best part of this team 👏
vocal shard
main leaf
yeah ive just mailed them
umbral reef
And being yeetéd out of #vrchat-general-1 for non VRC chatting while its never been a problem and stuff does not help making us believe any chat mod on there word~
tacit plank
A "mature content" world tag (which can't be created below friends privacy level) would be a good addition if it can be implimented without risking bad PR. Just say that it's for people who want to swear or something
main leaf
Thanks @rough pulsar
vocal shard
I'm with caffeine
there are already tag when you upload an avatar
they should be used
have some settings to hide everything tagged as "nsfw"
obivously that would require people to do their part
ruby needle
@tacit plank the thing is more about officially wanting and supporting this content
vocal shard
but it's already a good step
ruby needle
rather then tollerating
north axle
That is a bad idea.
If VRChat allows marking stuff as NSFW, it would mean NSFW content would be allowed.
main leaf
why
tacit plank
Good idea, actually. Might even make it impossible to change to "nsfw" avatars in public, so that no accidents happen.
umbral reef
Then its rating would need to change the second they support it
main leaf
its allowed in private
north axle
If NSFW content gets allowed in VRChat, they'll get banned on Twitch.
umbral reef
Instead of taking non action
ruby needle
it's more then that
tacit plank
I mean the official reason should be about swearing or something
main leaf
xddddddddddddd
north axle
There's no statement allowing it as it is.
rough pulsar
I imagine part of the restrictions on NSFW content is due to the minimum age for using vrchat being 13.
tacit plank
That's a good point. Guess you can't legally support 18+ stuff in the game
vocal shard
even tho you can go to any public Pug and find nsfw stuff in there
umbral reef
Its the same that the official rules say support will be done within this discord but 👏
Nice meme
ruby needle
There is also other factors like how attractive the game might be for investors
north axle
VRChat's policy is basically "if no one rats you out, you're safe," but that's about it.
ruby needle
Adault content can play a big factor in that
marsh reef
well with all the lolis running around,i dont think investors would think kindly to that
tacit plank
But is it "anything goes in private, we just can't say so officially" or "you will only be banned if we find you"? I can't judge the staffs opinion on this stuff
north axle
Lolis don't have anything to do with that, they're children.
vocal shard
and during the knuckles bullshit, lot of articles popped out saying that vrchat is pretty racist
rough pulsar
@tacit plank It's likely a case of "If we never see it, we don't know it's happening and can't do anything about it"
vocal shard
nice going for the investors
tacit plank
So if a mod joins me or looks through my avatars because he's bored, I'm fucked?
vocal shard
no
cuz he isnt supposed to do it
if you are alone in your own private world doing your own thing
nobody else is supposed to be there with oyu
north axle
They are supposed to do it if there's a reason to review you account though.
languid beacon
In terms of NSFW, it’s only allowed in invite (not friends +) worlds, and all observers must have consented beforehand. If you get reported, you still get in trouble. Your responsibility to make sure anyone who does not want to see it does not see it.
umbral reef
What is 'a reason to revieuw'
that is as clear as it can be
"Ow snap he cursed a lot even though thats totally allowed by the rules!"
north axle
And even if they find something NSFW on your account with no evidence of it being used in public worlds, they'll probably just remove it from your account.
vocal shard
if* he spammed pedo pictures with particle system
that would be an example of extreme stuff
north axle
*paedo
tacit plank
You meant "if he"?
vocal shard
yes
languid beacon
That’s not extreame. That’s illegal. Please report
umbral reef
What what counts as nsfw? Does non detail skin count? (Aka its clear its meant to represent nudity but no sexual parts, just flat emptiness)
north axle
*extreme
umbral reef
Because the things we judge suggestive are totally different then whats suggestive in America
Just look at TV for examples
north axle
*than
tacit plank
Peoples judgement differs a lot
umbral reef
And once we pull in Asia and OCE its even worse
north axle
*it's
languid beacon
If you have anything to contribute besides correcting spelling I’d recommend you do that instead
umbral reef
So... are ya just gonna fix our engish instead of give an answer?
Neato
Quality conversations in here- Love this community and everyone being mature 👏
Meanwhile i get shit called for doing the same 👀
vocal shard
stuf lmao 
gotem 👌
north axle
NSFW is basically anything you can't use on the TV.
vocal shard
depend on what TV
umbral reef
Ow so full nudity is owkay if i compare it to Dutch TV 😂
vocal shard
you can't even swear on TV in US
north axle
Yeah, we're talking about US/NA.
tacit plank
I saw CP on the TV like 10 years ago. It was blurred a bit but it was still disturbing
vocal shard
yeah, no thanks
umbral reef
With that logic we cant even show underwear or swimwear 👀
north axle
Swimwear is allowed.
rough pulsar
I would like to point out that anything us Chat Mods say regarding rules in VRChat itself are our interpretations of the rules and we have no more authority on them than an average user.
tacit plank
Countries are different, cultures and laws are different. You can't really say that anything is fine or bad except for extreme cases
umbral reef
Also- Your statement is dumb anyway IMO
As there are 3 diffrent tiers for explicit things (cursing, nsfw and ect)
gotta love US
tacit plank
I just hope that the staff's judgement matches mine whenever something happens, I guess
languid beacon
Thanks @rough pulsar
umbral reef
And gallium 👀
If we follow VRC rules we can ask here for help so
languid beacon
I think nsfw rules can be best summed up as “don’t let people see it who don’t want to see it or it’s your fault not theirs”
rough pulsar
That said, regarding nudity in vrchat what I have heard is that as long as the genitalia are removed, and the nipples on females, then they're generally okay.
So man nips ✅
lady nips ❎
vocal shard
nips are a touchy subject
umbral reef
Queue's free the nip stuff
north axle
Moderation itself isn't even close to perfect. They try to ban people only for things that aren't allowed in the majority of countries, but not the things that are banned in only 7 or 9 countries.
tacit plank
What if it's a trap? 🤔
umbral reef
But thats part of the 'Doll' rule
Or just skin rule
Aslong as there are flat out no details on any sexual part its fine
languid beacon
Photoshopped male nips on female boobs are also not ok
vocal shard
i think nipples in games especially games like this have more of a common sense rule
tacit plank
If mods know that it's a trap, I guess
ruby needle
dont forget NSFW can also be behaviour.
@rough pulsar iI heard a cameltoe can allready be a issue. But i belive there is a lot of degrees to that 
vocal shard
also why would you want nipples
umbral reef
Oi guys- We cant talk about politics 
tacit plank
If mods know that it's a trap, I guess
vocal shard
also why would you want nipples
umbral reef
Oi guys- We cant talk about politics
tacit plank
It was just as example
languid beacon
Good thing it wasn’t mentioned at all
vocal shard
umbral reef
Its a conversation happening within politics right now still so 👀 No excuses caff-
languid beacon
Several people are typing
tacit plank
Can't use "common sense" as a rule unless you're on the same page as staff. But it's kept unclear
tacit plank
What, it is? I don't follow politics at all
umbral reef
I do as voting is neato
tacit plank
I gave up myself
vocal shard
is breast feeding avatars allowed then ? 🤔
north axle
Just use a regular eggplant.
umbral reef
But pan- In US thats illegal though 👀
While in EU it aint
Or well, in US it depends per state
@ruby needle 🔨
vocal shard
yeah, because having general rules then get them overwritten by states isnt going to be confusing at all
umbral reef
'murika
north axle
@umbral reef You mean breastfeeding? As I said, if it's explicit, it's not allowed at all.
tacit plank
Being nude in your house can get you on a list if your window is open, I've heard. Especially if you're within like 300 meters of a school or something
inner cape
Who tf in the right mind is going to make that anyway
umbral reef
But it depends where you are if its explicit by law 👀
vocal shard
yes it is
which is dumb as all fuck
i cant be naked in my own house ?
are you kidding me
tacit plank
I think you're also supposed to pay like 100000$ per song you download from Youtube if you're caught
vocal shard
nobody is enforcing that
languid beacon
Can confirm piracy fines are real if you are rich enough and likely to pay it off
vocal shard
i mean
you can give me a one millions fine if you want
i won't be able to pay it off tho
so enjoy nothing i guess
ruby needle
well, you'll be paying for it the rest of your life then
north axle
That's what SoundCloud is for.
umbral reef
Cant get money out of a stone
languid beacon
That’s why they only actually go after those they know can pay also #general-media
umbral reef
If he works illegally, reports low taxes, pays everything by hand. Lmao gl getting money from him
tacit plank
My point is that rules are extremely dumb sometimes, and that I hope people in authority don't enforce them in those cases
umbral reef
Imo the rules should be changed then
As at one point- one shitty enforcer will abuse them
ruby needle
In Germany here, as far as i know, you can law wise only be sued for the amount of damage you did with pirating meaning basically the cost of the game or song. Tho you'll always have extra costs on top.
umbral reef
@ruby needle There is also a fine for doing so
vocal shard
wasnt there a really bored dude in US, trying to find loop holes in everything to sue companies and get money ?
ruby needle
what
umbral reef
Same for patent trolls and stuff
vocal shard
i know that
but there was one specific dude
that found the most insignificant loop hole
and won most of them
ruby needle
tha'd be new to me Oclac.
Assuming we talk about downloading a song or DVD.
Cracking a game might be a bit different due to actually circumventing a copyright system with cracking it.
Generally tho isn't that all private right so why would the goverment have anything to do with it 😄
umbral reef
but hey guys #general-media 
ruby needle
True
umbral reef
Because the goverment enforces the law?
small wing
<@&397642795457970181> Can i talk to one of you guys? I have some questions regaurding an issue that just happened in game that i feel an email wouldn't suffice.
ruby needle
any official things especially ingame things are not done trough discord
umbral reef
Your in for bad news ^
weary bison
we can't deal with ingame stuff, yeah
small wing
Im more so asking for advice on a situation because i have no proof from what i know of
umbral reef
And if its truely important the email is the best way to go as they have it all logged in there official places then
small wing
its kinda important because i feel like i was just hacked and framed to look like i stole an avatar
someone managed to switch my avatar to thiers in a lobby and call me out for stealing it when i didnt actually do anything
ruby needle
We can only repeat that you will have to mail for any official matters like this.
weary bison
send an email and go into as much detail as you possibly can
ruby needle
^
small wing
Is there any way i can send a log of it?
weary bison
include every bit of info you have
umbral reef
Also- Fairly sure they can check who is the original uploaded of an avatar ID
And get the output log, provide the time, username and as much other information as you can within the email
digital girder
ive played 17 hours on vrchat on my steam, can i link it to my vrchat account?
small wing
That is the issue, these people hacked my account and forced me into an avatar of which i never took and claimed me to be a thief.
digital girder
so i can upload my own avatar
vocal shard
Yes you can link it
small wing
i have no proof unless a log file works
ruby needle
@digital girder you can lik it but time is not your factor
tho you likely do have a bit of trust score so do it regardless
umbral reef
@digital girder log into the steam acc and you can connect the accs'there
ruby needle
^
digital girder
k thx
ruby needle
it's in the settings menue
weary bison
explain the issue and include the log, it'll be investigated
umbral reef
@small wing At times its proof enough
ruby needle
in your case i belive moderation@vrchat.com
small wing
Thank you
ruby needle
else there is the normal support mail support@vrchat.com
vocal shard
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat\vrchat named output_log.txt
small wing
I just sent in the logs. also noticed exactly what i meant with being switched to the avatar that wasn't mine in the log file.
digital girder
wait how do i link
small wing
Is there a way to look up said avatars portrait so i can send that in the email aswell if i have the ID? @ruby needle
umbral reef
Photo's and stuff? If so, gotta upload to a website like imgur first
vocal shard
huh ?
polar bone
what
umbral reef
He is asking to link...
small wing
sorry for the pings, things like this make me really anxious.
umbral reef
Fairly sure only roll was emailing
vocal shard
FPaul lives in the future 
small wing
I get rash when people decide to hack me and mess with me in game. (this happens a lot)
been playing for almost 3 years
ruby needle
If you need to get a avatar picture you can look up if they still use it on the website
but it will ahve changed if they use a different avatar now
small wing
I get super upset with stuff like this because i have a clean record with 0 bans.
so when someone tries to get me banned by hacking an avatar into my account when i join a world i freak out.
vrchat is my outlet so it kinda sucks.
vocal shard
nothing will happen to you
they don't randomly ban because some random dude said "yo he stole my avatar"
they are looking at the proof before doing anything
small wing
So if i switched out of it right as it happened i'm fine?
ruby needle
that...
small wing
that of which i switched out asap
small wing
I knoww
ruby needle
if something like that happens again, turn ofthe game and save your output log for the future
small wing
Already did
the second things like this happen i always end game and come here to ask what to do.
for this i had no idea outputs saved avatars switched into
so glad it does.
Now i'm afraid to go into a public world though.
if this happens again i feel like it worsens my case.
vocal shard
the output log saves every action in the instances i believe
when someone join, leave
switch avatars
there is a lot of info in there
that's why they always ask oyu to send the output log
small wing
Does it also say the users in the instance at the current time?
ruby needle
i am wondering tho
vocal shard
it say when a user joined
ruby needle
this isnt the first time the last days i heard about remote changing
vocal shard
and when he left
don't worry fpaul
like everytime
someone is going to spread that modded client
people will go apeshit
small wing
Its photon exploits im sure of it. last 3 times i had this happen to me i was told photon was the cause.
umbral reef
Talking about VRC
Its time for my battle disk practice 👏
Gotta get good at that game one day
vocal shard
we all know it's an excuse, oclac
umbral reef
As i aint being good at anything else any time soon within this game
small wing
@umbral reef underhand always
vocal shard
you go there to met streamers
small wing
overhand is harder i noticed
small wing
you gotta get a good flick
umbral reef
The two times i did i got lucky
But nah- I learned that the rules for the battle disk tournaments are changing so its fair
So i wanna start playing them
small wing
bowling is hard af in vr
desktop users have it so easy
Also before i try to go back into game. Should I?
Im afraid honestly. I dont want to be hacked again, and if it happens again i'm afraid it will make my case harder to stand by.
umbral reef
Why not?
Not playing the game anit a option
Then being banned is just as good
And you reported the shit so....
small wing
Because if they can hack an avatar on me then they have all the tools to get me in trouble.
And i don't know what to do at this point.
vocal shard
nothing will happen to you
small wing
I have a clear standing account status with no tos violations but that could change if they keep hacking me.
vocal shard
worst case scenario, they do it again and you can collect one more output log for the mods
go play
you'll be fine
small wing
Alright.
Thanks for the help, hopefully these people are stopped soon.
I heard Matsix had this issue also
vocal shard
only way for that to happen is to report them with enough proof
videos are probably the best kind of proof
small wing
I dont have nvidia shadowplay
small wing
I also cant record at all. i have frame timing issues with my current config
ruby needle
small wing
screenshots are the only way for me at the moment
Alright, jumping back in. Cross your fingers for me so i dont have to deal with this again. It gave me a panic attack. :/
languid beacon
This weird hacker RP thing going on here is silly lol
languid beacon
No comment.
civic plume
just waiting for tupper to announce 2017.4 at this stage... 👀
umbral reef
Just waiting for tupper to say anything 
civic plume
just waiting for tupper to scream 2017.4 is live
civic plume
i should go to beta but idk now, computer desk and everything all packed up and i set up on my bedroom lol
umbral reef
At the fun corner
ruby needle
take the next turn right. then 2 times left and then right again.
mental haven
thanks for the info
vocal shard
you have "the box"
ruby needle
i'd say.
forest hill
Hello
ember forum
ayo
vocal shard
Howdy
queen mango
Fancy meeting ye.
forest hill
Looking for some people to add who are on VR chat
if you guys wanna add me my steam is the same as my name here
mortal girder
what are some websites i can use to download avatars for vrchat?
vocal shard
That site is not allowed in here.
mortal girder
oh
forest hill
o
vocal shard
Currently, there are no sites that VRC supports.
ember forum
are the avatars allowed though
forest hill
pretty sure
there's hundreds of downloads for models
@vocal shard can I post the wikia page that lists model resources?
vocal shard
Can you DM me it first?
forest hill
sure
umbral reef
@ember forum depends- but as the mods on that website dont give a fuck a lot arent
And they have promoted things like modified clients in the past that have gotten users banned
Same with avatars from there
Best to ignore the website wiht its halfassed avatars and push others to do the same
ember forum
meh
avatars themselves just have to be sfw and not too heavy on effects probs
vocal shard
There are some models in the 3d.nicovideo.jp where the modeller gives out VRC-Ready unity prefabs.
most of the avatars are also very unoptimized
umbral reef
The website is legit worse towards the community than anything else this game has
mortal girder
i just wanna find a similar avatar to the one i have now but i also wanna touch it up and make it look smoother if that makes sense
ember forum
although yea, seen separate materials for each piece of cloth like wtf
vocal shard
I recommend just looking for the model itself and manually edit it yourself instead of using a prefab.
mortal girder
thats the thing though, i was hoping for websites so i can find the model but ive only found the model in one world
ember forum
add a bulgie and u good to go
vocal shard
If you're looking for male models, good luck finding one that's to your liking.
umbral reef
Most mmd bases are female so ye-
mortal girder
the one im looking for is female D:
umbral reef
I managed to do that 3 times already 
forest hill
):
vocal shard
You just changed their hairs to be "male"
forest hill
traps ftw
vocal shard
You can look at deviant art, Jay.
umbral reef
Latest one not even
queen mango
Someone say traps?
vocal shard
find a furry model
ember forum
hope you mean nipple hair
umbral reef
And one of the two used a proper male base 👀
vocal shard
give it a normal skin color
boom
got your normal body
Proper male bases are a myth.
umbral reef
Your a myth 😡
vocal shard
Wow, thank you. <3
umbral reef
now gib food
vocal shard
Myths don't have food-
umbral reef
Welp- If i cant get food out of you time to remove you from VRC and block you 
0% odds for food is a default 0 friendship points
vocal shard
Like you don't have be blocked already. 
umbral reef
I dont tho..
queen mango
There's only a few male avatars which I find to be well-made.
Even then, they seem to be based on some better-known characters, at least what I think.
mortal girder
so i have another question, lets say i found the exact model i was looking for on deviantart right? how would i put that in vrchat? 4Head
umbral reef
follow the tutorials ;p
vocal shard
mortal girder
where though
vocal shard
Have fun.
mortal girder
advert-chan, i love you
umbral reef
Or just get blender and unity
Download cats plugin and press alllll the buttons within that thing
forest hill
bruh
umbral reef
Cats plugin does 99% of all manual work being explained within video's
vocal shard
At least you love me, unlike Oclac.
forest hill
did you just link a one hour tutorial?
vocal shard
Yes.
mortal girder
1 hour is 1 hour
forest hill
jesus christ
mortal girder
like how 5$ is 5$
umbral reef
@vocal shard well- Give hugs or food then 😠
median basalt
Can confirm, male models are hard to find. I found a few that I really like and I'm sticking realll close to them.
umbral reef
Any proper detailed video that explains uploading to someone new should be long
@median basalt dont get to close with them 
vocal shard
Actually, does anyone know/have a video that's more recent?
mortal girder
^ please
forest hill
I'll be sticking to other peoples avatars forever
vocal shard
ez tutorial
"Press dis, den dis, den dis, maybe dis too, then done"
forest hill
yeah but you need to spend money tho
ember forum
^works, can confirm
forest hill
shoulda linked a torrent
umbral reef
make one then advert 
vocal shard
Also, ^?
ember forum
^^
umbral reef
Dynamic bones yes- But its something you COULD use
umbral reef
Not something you have to buy
vocal shard
It's not something that you require.
umbral reef
I dont use it myself and im all fine without it
Also advert- Your not a robbit anymore righto?
ember forum
think you need it for boob physics no
umbral reef
If so does that mean i cant steal ya heater anymore?
vocal shard
I'm... something.
forest hill
Oculus or Vive?
forest hill
I'm wondering what works better
umbral reef
Quallity wise? The same if seated
For anything bigger then just a standing space its vive
umbral reef
But vive has some neato life improvement things like the camera- Easy to access audio plug and stuff
Its why you pay extra really- For the extra (useless for most) things
median basalt
Uploading avatars has gotten pretty painless
ember forum
dunno about the new vive but afaik the older had worse controllers and no headphones
umbral reef
Now that im used to having them- I cant run without them
median basalt
I got a hint from someone that they were working on videos, but that might only be on the topic of optimization.
umbral reef
Ow the latest vive is something you ignore at all costs
vocal shard
Still doesn't use the camera.
forest hill
deng
median basalt
Maybe I should make a tutorial for the latest version of Cats and Unity 2017
Since changing materials is a little trickier in 2017
umbral reef
Can maybe talk to our cat boy so that you can try out the beta build of cats for the new blende version
vocal shard
Another Megatutorial please.
forest hill
Wish I wasn't so used to console, it made me a pleb
umbral reef
So that your alll up to date
umbral reef
No idea- havent payed attention to it beside new stuff happening and that it has a ruined UI
ember forum
been waiting for it forever
vocal shard
I remember them saying 2.8 isn't ready yet for model stuff.
median basalt
Gah, I hope they don't yeet the 2.8 Cats UI onto us lol
umbral reef
Im also not ready to be anything close to an adult but look at me!
Cats had to swap there UI also as most of the blender stuff changed
vocal shard
Wait, you're an adult? 👀
vocal shard
Nah, was kidding when I said that.
umbral reef
Bully
forest hill
I haven't been on VR Char for a while before today, what's with the game rooms?
queen mango
Gamerooms?
vocal shard
Games tab, you mean?
forest hill
yeah on my main menu for worlds there was a list of game worlds
queen mango
They probably updated it, I think.
vocal shard
Self explanatory, they are worlds that are games you can play.
forest hill
I was wondering if there are good ones y'all would recommend
queen mango
Murder's the hotspot right now
vocal shard
^
ember forum
games inside games
umbral reef
Battle disk 
ember forum
vrchat is hosted in na right
vocal shard
Yeah
queen mango
Uhh, yeah.
vocal shard
So if you're far away from there, have fun with your ping in battle disk.
ember forum
^
tacit plank
If you play battle disks, please use the straps. It's a little too immersing
vocal shard
We got a Hanzo main
queen mango
Yea
umbral reef
And just powershot so they have o odds of juking
tacit plank
I almost broke my monitor with a fast throw across my room
vocal shard
Same, EU.
tacit plank
180 or so. Denmark
vocal shard
If that's a joke, that's even worst than what I say.
candid acorn
Tfw think "lemme go clubbing a bit" and all the clubs are dead, except for void and even then everyone's at the mirror
Gentlemen, what's wrong with clubs and how do we fix them?
I remember they were all quite lively a few months back
umbral reef
Weekends- Specific dance/party communities
And well- The worlds having bad FPS drops
vocal shard
It's Monday.
floral aspen
It's monday
candid acorn
I didn't mean right now
umbral reef
I know- But it aint the weekend so its ded
candid acorn
Even over the weekend they were dead
umbral reef
Depends when you are active tho-
candid acorn
At least, not as active as they used to be
floral aspen
all the good parties are probably in private worlds
umbral reef
well being in the same world for months gets boring
vocal shard
Isn't there a discord server for clubbing and such?
umbral reef
and most of the maps are hella big
so being social isnt an option really
And there is adverto
candid acorn
To be fair, my personal opinions tend to revolve around the win10 player killing clubs for a lot of people if they can't hear the music
vocal shard
Check the VRChat Party-Community discord in #community-servers-old, you might get people in there.
umbral reef
Also good- you didnt see what i wrote
candid acorn
Like I'm glad I no longer have to deal with crashes or timeouts and stuff with the youtube player like maps like tiz and mechadonix used to suffer from, but on the other hand, now a lot of clubs just have no music
forest hill
🌃
queen mango
So soon?
forest hill
naps are for sanity
forest hill
didn't think you'd be from Europe
umbral reef
Didnt my engrish give that away?
queen mango
Heheh.. No-one knows where I really came from
umbral reef
neko land
queen mango
OMO
ember forum
uh oh
forest hill
your english isnt different from mine
umbral reef
But nighty 
Hugs are welcome, pets are illegal and anything lewd is super illegal so
forest hill
🤷
queen mango
Oh well.. Have a good rest, Lac
ember forum
lewd is super illegal so we'll wait till police is out
forest hill
we like to dwel on the lewd
umbral reef
Now that you say that- i think im the least safe while the cops are watching over me when it come sto lewd stuff within here
But 💥 im gone
vocal shard
G'night clac
forest hill
his name reminds me of 6LACK
vocal shard
That took me a solid minute to realise it means Black
forest hill
Yeah same for me when I first heard him come out
Anyone wanna hop on VR Chat with me?
Rip
mortal girder
alright so im like 20 mins into the video that you sent advert chan and im already struggling
cause a whole section aint popping up
vocal shard
What section exactly?
mortal girder
should i dm you or just say it here?
vocal shard
You can DM me.
tawdry spruce
Hello there everyone how's your day going
Is there a custom avatar folder here so I can request one for money.
vocal shard
no there isnt any "folder" for custom avatar here
if you want to pay for a model done for you, you should ask in the vrc trader dicord
there is an invite link in #community-servers-old
tawdry spruce
That one didn't work for me
vocal shard
?
tawdry spruce
Can't message them because of the verification notice is not working for me
fair yew
I can describe VRChat as the final frontier of the internet.
vagrant juniper
so when is this game going to be mult. core rendering and no cap fps too
fair yew
Whatchu mean?
sterile drift
Punker, why do you need more than 90FPS?
vocal shard
the game is already multi core
sterile drift
Y u h
vagrant juniper
why does this game run a VR in 1 core lol
sterile drift
@vagrant juniper Dude Svel just said it's multi core
And you never answered my question 🙃
vagrant juniper
better performance if no cap
sterile drift
L O L
queen mango
Uh No
sterile drift
No
queen mango
Wouldn't that introduce frame buffer issues?
vocal shard
now i't s confirmed that you got no idea how all of this is working
sterile drift
Framerate caps have nothing to do wirh performance.
opaque hawk
Vrchat is definitely a game
vocal shard
i see it more like a frameowrk for people to make stuff for it
opaque hawk
Totally not one of the last bastions of anonymous internet social platforms.
rigid crescent
i like when someone gets completely blown the fuck out and doesn't reply
vocal shard
^
rigid crescent
for me, it's better than if they had kept going because they thought they were right
queen mango
I saw that, Fez
vocal shard
me2
ember forum
didnt see anythin
cinder viper
So I am coming up to my one year with the vive and wanting to get into live streaming and record my games the issue is I dont know what the best Wireless setup is to record voice for both games chat and discord.
I was looking at getting the Shure SE425 for my sound.
But I need a good mic for voice that I can mute on demend as I live with a lot of people and sometimes get called away thats wiereless as I standing up and walking around.
I was looking at Lapel mic but I cant seem find good one with mute buttons or wireless ones.
So what Setup are you all using for this then.
ember forum
wireless 🤔
cinder viper
Yeah I mean the vive has ok mic built in but can't mute it when I need to
ember forum
ur probably better off using some push-to-talk macro then
vocal shard
I just pull up my menu and mute from there
That way I can talk to chat
Then I can talk to in-game guys when I unmute my mic from the in-game menu
For hardware reccomendations, i'm not ya guy
cinder viper
I was thinking of doing that or just getting wireless gaming headset with good mute button on it lol
rigid crescent
push to talk is probably easier, there's also push to mute settings as well
with toggle options or holding
cinder viper
Can you do that in Vr? I thought it was only for desktop mode?