#vrchat-general-2

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safe prism
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if you have one, of course.

small wing
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

floral flaxBOT
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┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

rough pulsar
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On the Rift or WMR, starting any program that needs SteamVR should automatically try to launch it.

safe prism
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can also make a tiny steamvr/openvr app to launch it for you if you're.. uh.. that's a terrible idea :D

small wing
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"browsing incognito"

languid beacon
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You can open VRChat from oculus dash as well

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No need to start steam

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Oculus dash tries to pretend SteamVR games are native titles now

tall storm
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Maybe one day Big Picture will pretend that it never existed and we can just use normal mode

solid belfry
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Just installed a 1080ti and now my VRChat runs at 9 FPS on desktop but perfectly fine in VR mode, anyone know the cause/fix for this?

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when I open task manager it isn't using any resources at all so it seems like a FPS lock

safe prism
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your main monitor is plugged into your GPU and not your motherboard, right?

solid belfry
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correct

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I don't think it's running on the iGPU tho

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my 8 year old ThinkPad can at least run the loading screen at 60 FPS

safe prism
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GPU drivers installed? possibly reinstall them?

solid belfry
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I'll try a reinstall

uncut trail
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Need.more jumpscare world like hortor darkness world

rigid crescent
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I used to get the 9fps thing on desktop every so often. It would consistently open that way no matter how many times I restarted then it suddenly worked

solid belfry
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yeah a reinstall did nothing

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F

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oh I figured it out

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it happens if you don't have any audio devices plugged it

opaque hawk
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Weird, but I’m intrigued

solid belfry
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I got the wireless adapter so the vive headphones aren't connected while it's off

vocal shard
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i have created an abomination

south cedar
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omg

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xd

opaque hawk
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0_o

subtle sierra
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THICC

vocal shard
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keeps saying feet are below origin point even though i raised the avatar in rigging screen

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help

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i need to let the world see this

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no

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maybe not

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maybe yes

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not enough people cater to the more niche xenophiles in vrc
its mostly furry characters or centuars

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sometimes you need the extra thicc monstoristy

opaque hawk
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I have yet to see a centaur but okay

rigid crescent
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centaurs are pretty rare but there's a world with them i think

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oh wait I'm thinking harpies and naga

opaque hawk
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I just made a scylla

worthy flame
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Anyone know how long it usually takes support to get around to answering tickets? I literally can't play VRChat at all atm, it crashes as soon as the game loads a world for me, doesn't matter how many people are in the room or not. I'm using Oculus with a I7 7300 and GTX 1060 6gb Max Q Design, it's a smaller gaming laptop, I never use to have very many crashing issues and now it's just plain unplayable.

vocal shard
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i did it

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the avatar is online

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also mic there is a harpy world

opaque hawk
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If I see a horrific thigh monster I know who to blame

vocal shard
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can someone just remind me of the vrchat overrides?

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the parameters for the app

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nvm gottem

torpid abyss
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Is there a max of people you can add on a VRChat friends list? And if you add someone, does it randomly delete someone else if you reach that max? Asking for a friend.

floral aspen
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I know someone who has over 900 friends so idk

torpid abyss
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He wants to know if its confirmed or not from devs.

floral aspen
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I don't think the devs have ever said whether or not there is a limit

rigid crescent
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no, and no

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and no

vocal shard
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thicette working splendidly

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also

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why does nobody mention the fact using the d3dx9 launch option can crash your game on an igpu system?

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or the fact you can use -force-d3d10 as a flag despite it not being listed due to "Skipping a few on the table that run on 10.x runtime, Not useful..."

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-force-d3d9 also crashes my game with a critical error constantly, unable to create runtime library

ruby needle
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cus, you are not supposed to use them anyway? cirBaka

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and its all your own trial and error stuff

sterile drift
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Rin, whta ARE you tryna do? lol

vocal shard
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Rin doing Rin things Jasyidk

elfin cloak
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hallo why Loli's Avatar World is not available anymore?

ruby needle
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Hello, like many times this Discord is not for support cirMini
If you have not updated it (in which case it will not be public untill you resubmitt it and it gets aproved again) then you propably had something on it that isnt completely fine with the rules.

sterile drift
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FPaul it's probably not his world

ruby needle
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In that case, Likely getting updated.

elfin cloak
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nah i'm just an user of avatars

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so i go to search list enter it and boom nothing

sterile drift
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NPF, like Paul said, the world is likely down for updates.

ruby needle
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If you still have the World ID you might be able to join of that while it's in re publishing process

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you'd need to create a join link from outside the game for that tho

elfin cloak
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yeah i know but he tought that that world is mine and that i wounder why is haha my world is not in public yet

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but thanks for trying to convince me and ty for help

queen mango
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Hmm... He forgot that it is his world?

elfin cloak
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idk but thanks anyway

sterile drift
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You CAN make a join link, but you can also make a steam launch setting to shove you in that world

ruby needle
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i mean, that kinda is a join link

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technically at least

elfin cloak
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ty

steady latch
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Just a quick question how "lewd" may a avater be?

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does anyone have some sort of reference

ivory folio
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As lewd as you want in private worlds

ruby burrow
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There's not really any definable line. Just got to use your best judgement.

queen mango
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It can go from an anime succubus avatar wearing [REDACTED] clothing to an avatar that is wearing clothing that doesn‘t cover the [DATA EXPUNGED]

ruby burrow
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There's no magic algorithm designed to seek out lewdness, so ultimately it's based on reports, and what people would feel the need to report.

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Avoid any nude/lewd avatar preview icons. Avoid being recorded/streamed going over the top. And keep it toward more private audiences.
As long as you follow those, you're probably fine.

rigid crescent
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yeah the odds of you having any action taken against you if it's never seen outside a private world is pretty much zero

tacit plank
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It would be possible to track down lewd avatars, because some use the nsfw tags when uploading

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Also, avatar names. But banning people for doing things in private instances would be a bad move

vocal shard
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from last infos, those 4 check boxes doesnt do anything actually

safe prism
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just remember, in an uncontrolled environment, there can be kids as young as 8 seeing you

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do you wanna contribute to what a pre-pubescent kid is exposed to already on the internet

queen mango
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Aren't they not supposed to be in VRChat until 13?

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🤔

umbral reef
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kids have been banned once they turned out to not be 13+

queen mango
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🤔

opaque hawk
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Like if you want to be lewd, fine, but use your best judgement and don’t be lewd in public

safe prism
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just because the rule says something doesn't mean people don't break it

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otherwise why would the rule exist

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xd

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you never solve a problem that doesn't exist

vocal shard
tacit plank
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The 4 checkboxes are logged

vocal shard
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gib proof

tacit plank
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One of my friends tagged his world as NSFW, or at least the world API told me so. It has been a while, but I don't think it's removed as a feature yet, just unused

median basalt
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It's tracked obviously

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Otherwise they wouldn't still be checked when you updated the world/avatar

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They're just unused, it's stored in their database

tacit plank
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You can go and look for yourself if you want
And yeah, that's what I meant. The checkboxes still technically do something

slate rover
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how many hours for trusted user?

opaque hawk
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It’s not based on hours. The secret to being a trusted user is a intentional secret

slate rover
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ah

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do i actually have to do something specific? or just keep uploading and meeting friends?

opaque hawk
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Nah just be play the game and be kind to others

slate rover
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alrighty

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so i COULD get it under 1k hours

opaque hawk
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I did so yes

slate rover
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okay thanks

rancid vessel
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Love the new Emoji's in game 😄

molten hornet
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When i join alot of the halloween maps i get stuck infinte losding screen

thorn latch
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friend made an account, can log in on the site, but not in-game

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is there a wait before you can log in?

ruby burrow
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Shouldn't be no, not that I know of.

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Check his email maybe, for any verification stuff perhaps. Has been a while since I did it, but I was in pretty much instantly.

queen mango
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So I just logged into VRChat for only a few minutes, and the first thing I did was test out the new crouch and prone positions.

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The crouch position makes you look a little derpy, especially with bigger avatars. At least as it seems to be for me.

sterile drift
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@queen mango I just scrolled up and saw [REDACTED] and [DATA EXPUNGED]. Do you look around the SCP wiki sometimes as well?

queen mango
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I do, sometimes

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Especially the SCP-096 section.

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Do not look at the face

drifting adder
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Is anyone else having an issue where world downloading is suddenly slower?

south viper
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suddenly? 🤔

drifting adder
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In small worlds with only a few mb it's taking me forever to download

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Yeah before it was way faster

south viper
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oh, I have a lot of places where it gets to 100% and just sits there not loading

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and a few where it sits at 0% forever

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both situations force me to restart

safe prism
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if you disable/re-enable your network card, it fixes itself

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you don't need to close the game, usually, just do it while it's loading, then bail to home

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and try again

south viper
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usually what happens is home also fails to load

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and then I go to default home, and then that fails to load

safe prism
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yeah, if this fixes it, that's not a problem

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just need to kick it to load another world

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because it'll stop dead :D

south viper
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restarting is actually less work than dropping to control panel to disable a network card :/

safe prism
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can be

south viper
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dash->Quit App->click launch from Steam

safe prism
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yeah but for me, restarting doesn't fix

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so

south viper
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oh, that's a different issue then. a much more fun one

safe prism
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ye

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i've had this issue for a longlonglong time

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

drifting adder
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@safe prism you mean like disconnecting from my internet?

safe prism
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ye

drifting adder
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Here's hoping that works it's being so fucking annoying

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I shouldn't be waiting this long to get into the pug

south viper
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you should use those new portals that don't have a loading screen (lel)

scenic bluff
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yo i was a trusted user and i got deranked ranomly apparently

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im actually confused

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like ive done nothing for a derank and i was trusted since the public beta

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this actually makes me mad

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nvm it was a glitch... thanks bruh

drifting adder
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I tried disconnecting my internet and reconnecting but I'm still having the slow downloading issue D:

safe prism
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rip

drifting adder
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Does anyone else know what might be causing vrchat to download slowly? My internet is pretty fast literally everywhere else on my computer.

maiden hound
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I was just on vrchat on FBT and I tried to sit down without looking and I fucking missed the chair and hit my head on the ground. I landed straight on my elbow

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Thank god I didn’t brake my headset

rough pulsar
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Congratulations! 👍
Try not to injure yourself again, I say as a person who has mashed his face into a wall and other furniture while in VR.

proven lion
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I head bunted my glass desk

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Desk won

maiden hound
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Wow, yeah my elbow is in pain, I loosened a little thing on my headset so it’s all wobbly though

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alright i have a question

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in playspace on vrc how do i teleport back to my original position?

rough pulsar
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Playspace mover?

maiden hound
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yeah, forgot the name there hah

rough pulsar
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No idea ¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard
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In the readme, there's instructions to set up the return to original position. Then you just press both grip buttons at the same time and it resets

ruby burrow
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You need to start the program using a custom line of text that assigns a button to be your reset.

maiden hound
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kk ill check it out

ruby burrow
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Else you can't.

maiden hound
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ive tried that but it says it cant change or whatever

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where you make a shortcut?

ruby burrow
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Are you using Vive or Rift?

vocal shard
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Make a shortcut on the desktop or something

maiden hound
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i'm using WMR

vocal shard
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Use vive settings

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For wmr

ruby burrow
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I've no idea what command line that needs then.

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Oh

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In that case, use this....
./PlayspaceMover.exe -l 2 -r 2 --resetButtonMask 4

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To start up the program using Windows power shell.

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Or otherwise follow the instructions on the website to setup a permanent shortcut with those settings.

maiden hound
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alright, ill try to set it up now

ruby burrow
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If you want the reset button (assigned to double grip), and also the ability to fling yourself and come back down with gravity, you can use this one...
./PlayspaceMover.exe -l 2 -r 2 --resetButtonMask 4 --physics

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Oh, though actually leaving the ground requires FBT.

maiden hound
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I dont need gravity, but i put ./PlayspaceMover.exe -l 2 -r 2 --resetButtonMask 4 into the code and it still didnt work

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i have fbt

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like i made a shortcut, put it the code in, then i put it back in the playspace mover folder

ruby burrow
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Are you entering that line into the Playspace Mover window whilst it's running, or into Powershell whilst playspace mover is not running?

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Ah

maiden hound
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while its not runningh

ruby burrow
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I've not bothered with shortcuts yet. Don't have FBT so rarely bother with PSM.

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I've just always started it from powershell thus far.

maiden hound
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ah

ruby burrow
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If using powershell, be sure to open it from the folder containing playspace mover.exe, or otherwise include the file path in the line you enter.

maiden hound
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wait one question, while using playspace mover, moving around, does your name follow you?

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or does it stay in place while you're moving

ruby burrow
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I think.... it does. Not 100% certain, due to mentioned rare use of it.

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I've only ever been able to use it with the "fake trackers", which are too much hassle to get working most of the time.

maiden hound
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hope it does, dont really need a reset aslong as my nametag follows me

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cant really tell unless i have someone with me 😂

ruby burrow
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One quirk of it, is that if you drag yourself up into the air and try to move normally, you will snap back to the ground with your hands in the air.

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Well, I'd always want the reset personally since I play standing, and thus want to avoid the walls.

maiden hound
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Yeah true. I'll try to set it up tomorrow when i have more time.

ruby burrow
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Having a misleading play boundary is kinda scary.

sterile drift
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Fake trackers can be pretty silly honestly

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I just turn them on through Playspace Mover and I just turn my whole body upside down

ruby burrow
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I just can't get them to work consistently.

sterile drift
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Neither can I but I would use them more as a joke anyway

rough pulsar
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Speaking of trackers, time for me to go put mine on and hop into VR.

But see if the steamvr beta works for me first.

maiden hound
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fake trackers are actually very good for sitting on chairs, moving your legs, got it for 12 dollars so very good for the price

sterile drift
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Oh you mean like an actual thing

ruby burrow
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Sometimes I can manage to get them to spawn in a way that they lock my legs into a static slightly knees bent stance, that works fine.
But 4 times out of 5 they just attach to the legs/hips in a broken way that drags them through my own skull when I try to move the playspace.

sterile drift
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I was thinking like Playspace Mover's fake tracker option where it just slaps feet and a hip on you that follow your head.

maiden hound
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yeah same squishy, not much of a problem for my avatar right now though\

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they have that? whats the point ?

ruby burrow
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Same LoneEevee. I'm referring to the ones that can't actually move you and are only software. Not Kinect or anything.

sterile drift
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Delaney, they're more for other games that require it

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Not necessarily VRChat

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But you can use it for VRC

maiden hound
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oh i was talking about kinect haha

ruby burrow
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It allows your avatar to leave the ground, as if you had FBT.

sterile drift
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I would use Kinect to VR or whatever it is, but then I'd have to actually take my Kinect and USE it

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Like

ruby burrow
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Without FBT, your feet are locked to the floor no matter where your playspace goes. Causing you to stretch instead of float.

sterile drift
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I don't feel it's worth it

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Plus I assume most of my avatars aren't okay for Full Body.

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I've noticed it with a lot of my Pokemon avatars.

ruby burrow
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I've used the fake trackers a few times purely to be able to climb people.

queen mango
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Fake trackers?

vocal shard
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Playspace mover has a built in fake trackers

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But it's not the best

ruby burrow
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They generally look pretty janky even when working perfectly, but when used on a short avatar with the right shape like Kanna, the locked leg stance is much less noticeable.

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And you get to enjoy climbing more people that way.

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I've had great fun with them, but it's also taken me over half an hour of repeatedly rebooting Steam-VR to make them work in the past.

maiden hound
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when you move with psm, does your name tag follow you? @vocal shard

ruby burrow
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Every time you turn them on, it adds three imaginary trackers to Steam-VR's list. If they don't work right, they get stuck in the list even after being turned off, which confuses the game.

languid beacon
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Can confirm name tag follows your head when playspace moving

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I don’t know what logic they use but it seems to follow the head bone

ruby burrow
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This makes me want to do an animation where the head just detaches and wanders off, taking the nametag with it.

languid beacon
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I don’t know, it’s weird it definitely follows you when play space moving, but when my hip tracker screws off my name tag just stays where I should be

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So I’m really not sure what logic they’re using

ruby burrow
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It probably follows the players actual viewpoint, rather than the head bone.

languid beacon
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Makes sense

ruby burrow
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The bone attempts to stay inside the headset at all times, but can sometimes be separated. Is probably it.

languid beacon
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I really wish we could adjust the Ik targets relative to our devices

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Especially touch controllers

vocal shard
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@maiden hound from my experiences, it doesn't follow. It follows your position on the ground. But it doesn't raise or lower

languid beacon
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I have absolutely seen name tags up in the air

maiden hound
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alright, that makes sense

languid beacon
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🤔

vocal shard
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My friend always uses fbt with psm, it never followed... So idk

ruby burrow
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I'll just go buy FBT so I can test this out. :v

languid beacon
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Well I have FBT and PSM so I’m just going to go do it right now

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Because I feel like I’m going insane now

ruby burrow
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No fair.

languid beacon
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Except I can’t see my own name tag unless I trust what’s in the mirror

sterile drift
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Adeon I just looked back here

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Nameplates do not follow the head bone at all

ruby burrow
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What if everyone in the game conspires to skew your findings?

sterile drift
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They follow the origin of your avatar

languid beacon
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I swear I’ve seen people flying around with their name tags in the air I’ve never seen them just sitting on the ground

sterile drift
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Not anything on your armature

languid beacon
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So I assumed mine was doing it too

ruby burrow
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Hmm. I've never asked people where my nametag is when using the giant avatar.

sterile drift
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Nameplates also have the property that it adjusts to your viewpoint

vocal shard
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Giant avatar does follow proper height

ruby burrow
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I only mention that, since if you manually adjust the bounding box, does the game know how big your avatar actually is?

languid beacon
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OK that makes sense

sterile drift
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Not necessarily adjusting to your viewpoint constantly that it'd be moving with your head, just the model's native viewpoint.

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Basically the nameplate is locked at that point

languid beacon
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Yeah you can screw with name tag height by messing with the avatar but I don’t know exactly what aspect it controls it

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I have seen avatar is with incorrect name plate Heights

sterile drift
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As far as VRChat is concerned, your armature and mesh is just a little extra thing to it

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All it's concerned about first is your viewpoint

languid beacon
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Right

sterile drift
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Everything else follows the head, hands, and if you have them, trackers.

ruby burrow
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Yeah. I've seen insect avatars that had their nametag pushed into the ceiling.

languid beacon
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It’s a cheap annoying nameless trick people do

sterile drift
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Lol

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I feel it would be more because the insects are generic avatars and people don't realize they can put the viewpoint much lower than they actually do.

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And still have them function properly

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And comfortably.

ruby burrow
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Nah, these things had their nametag out the top of the Pug ceiling. Way high.

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Was clearly for deliberate effect, to make them seem more like real bugs that were hard to track.

languid beacon
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Does scale IDP checkbox in avatar descriptor actually hook into anything because I’m feeling like it does not

idle elm
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I don’t think that changes anything in VRC

languid beacon
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Glorious

idle elm
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Oh wait

sterile drift
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I don't think IPD scaling is a thing unless you somehow change your arm length after upload

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I'm assuming anyway

idle elm
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I’m not sure now

sterile drift
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IPD is scaled to your arms, so say you had a model with really long arms, everything would look really tiny.

ruby burrow
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Oh...

languid beacon
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No way to force worldscale bigger than it should be For your wingspan I guess

ruby burrow
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That sounds interesting actually. '-'

sterile drift
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Basically the distance between your viewpoint and your hands

idle elm
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According to the documentation it should work

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The checkbox

ruby burrow
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Since I have a model with long arms, that I'd love to be able to have the hands in the correct positions.

sterile drift
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What would it do differently though?

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That's what I'm wondering.

idle elm
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Scale IPD Should your IPD scale with your avatar height

ruby burrow
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Although if that works, it might feel too weird to actually use casually. Still curious though.

sterile drift
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With your avatar height? hm

idle elm
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Yeah

sterile drift
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Arm length is a factor too though, I've seen avatars with stupidly long arms and everyone looks like ants.

ruby burrow
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Hmm. So, you can't set it, but you can toggle scaling?

languid beacon
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Yeah one annoying thing is that "Real User Height" used to change worldscale from your head position, but now it scales from the floor, so the floor stays the same height as you adjust Real World Scale... while that makes sense, the only real way to adjust the floor height and have it be inherent to the avatar, is adjust the wingspan.

sterile drift
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Yep

ruby burrow
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Meaning... small avatars would have greater than usual IPD scale, whilst in tall ones you'd feel like a normal person sitting on a giant?

languid beacon
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Makes it really annoying to make avatars that render the floor at the right spot, heh

sterile drift
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One thing to note as well, if for some reason you had an avatar with an arm longer than the other, the IPD will scale to the longer arm.

languid beacon
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...That seems like the most annoying avatar ever

sterile drift
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I've only seen such avatars as memes.

languid beacon
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I guess it would apply to like, Doomfist from Overwatch if he's in

sterile drift
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Haven't really seen an actual avatar that was taken seriously with such an arm

queen mango
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Wait till you see Ballas from Warframe.
Ridiculously long arm

sterile drift
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Someone might have Doomfist, but they must really have gotten used to it.

ruby burrow
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I need to test this stuff. Is tricky to get my head round it.

languid beacon
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Thanos, even

sterile drift
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Fortnite model? If so, aren't the arms scaled the same as well?

vocal shard
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I think some Tf2 avatars are like that I think

sterile drift
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I've seen all the TF2 models, all have consistent arm length

ruby burrow
languid beacon
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But yeah the whole "change worldscale without changing floor height" can be seriously trippy if you adjust it way higher or smaller than it should be. gives you alice in wonderland syndrome when you look at your hands lol

sterile drift
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Tryna think of one of the TF2 models that might have a longer arm than the other

queen mango
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@sterile drift Heavy Weapons Guy?

languid beacon
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Since technically all real user height does now is change IPD

ruby burrow
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Except with the flaw that the "grab point" is actually located where the arm joint meets the giant hands, not at the end of the hands near the fingers.

sterile drift
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Heavy still has consistent arm length

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I've seen the model

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It's when you have an arm longer than the other

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Again, I've only seen such avatars as memes, none that actually are something taken seriously

languid beacon
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What determines the grab point?

sterile drift
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So like something scaled really stupidly

languid beacon
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Is it the tail of the wrist bone?

sterile drift
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Not really the tail, in Blender, the tail and head of bones matter

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But in Unity, it's just the head bone

ruby burrow
#

@languid beacon Yeah, the wrist bone.

languid beacon
#

What part of the wrist bone?

sterile drift
#

So it's basically the base of the wrist

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Or not the wrist bone

#

It's actually controller position technically

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If your arms are really short for some ungodly reason, you can still reach out farther in real life and grab the object.

languid beacon
#

Well yes but that's more or less what I mean, what controls the exact IK target of the VRChat hands

ruby burrow
#

I'll screenshot

languid beacon
#

Because my hands are waaaay in back of my controllers and I don't know how to fix it without screwing up my IDP

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which will then mess up my floor height

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which as a full body user i really need that to be right lol

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getting this all exact is a mess

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it would be easier if IPD scaled with height

sterile drift
#

Oh what controls the IK target of the hand is the controller itself too

ruby burrow
#

That part.

sterile drift
#

Now how far it goes is another beast, since I've only seen the IK properly though Xiexe's skeleton thing

ruby burrow
#

The red ring indicates my actual hand position. The area objects snap to when held.

sterile drift
#

Oh that's what he meant

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Yea that's basically it

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That is, if your avatar is still following your IK

languid beacon
#

Oof, so no way to offset the IK target from the controller

sterile drift
#

Nope

languid beacon
#

yeah getting my arms and hand size right worked fine but now my hands don't really grab my VR controllers, so picked up items float in front of my hands and my hands are kind of back on my real life wrists

sterile drift
#

Also if you offset your avatar from your IK in any way, you will be able to grab an object from much further, and when you get back to your avatar, it'll still be really far from your hand. I can demonstrate that to you some time, Adeon.

languid beacon
#

which also has the side effect of making my arms slightly slack

ruby burrow
#

For me that model as it is right now, basically operates exactly like any other avatar with normal length arms, except that the hands are gigantic. My reach is less than it appears to be.

sterile drift
#

You can tell I talk a lot more formally when typing in text, or at least in a public space in text

ruby burrow
#

People always ask me to pick up stuff from the floor. It's embarrassing to tell them I can't reach it. T-T

languid beacon
#

ha

sterile drift
#

When you heard me in game, were you surprised?

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Can't reach the floor oof

languid beacon
#

yeah trying to get my floor height right was due to never being able to pick stuff up from the floor

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now that I have full body, it was due to needing to actually put the trackers on my avatar's feet and not shins

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if you bind your trackers to your shins because your feet are below your floor, it'll look fine until you sit... then you'll be floating lol

sterile drift
#

Lol

languid beacon
#

and I think everyone types differently than they talk

finite kraken
#

where can i go to find friends to play fortnight with?

languid beacon
#

Fortnight discord

finite kraken
#

scared to join one

languid beacon
#

Also nite

sterile drift
#

Funnily enough in casual conversation in text I'm way more loose and silly than even in casual VRChat conversation.

languid beacon
#

Suprised there is no battle royale mode in VRChat yet

sterile drift
#

Eggplant Joy 100 Fire

ruby burrow
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I'm maybe the opposite. In text I can get more snarky/argumentative than I like to be, or would ever be in spoken conversation.

sterile drift
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Lol

queen mango
#

@languid beacon Hasn't caught on yet in here.

sterile drift
#

Don't give the world creators ideas, they will do it. You should see the stuff people have already pulled off.

ruby burrow
#

Even as someone who's never built a map, the more I think about that the more it feels scarily doable.

sterile drift
#

It's so doable at this point

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Well maybe not right now

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But many tools are rising up very quickly

languid beacon
#

Honestly the Murder map made me realize you can do a lot of logic in maps that I didn't think was possible. I haven't looked into script triggers at all.

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I've been focusing on avatars only

sterile drift
#

Same here

tacit plank
#

The murder map is a miracle

#

I've made simle things using the SDK, it's almost impossible

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You can't do logic like if statements, you can't read any information about players, etc

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You justh ave enabled objects, disabled objects, triggers and animations with some number of states

queen mango
#

Doesn't it sound similar to what the Source engine can do?

tacit plank
#

Give it a go if you want

ruby burrow
#

Have you seen the logic machine the Murder map uses?

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In the spawn room, walk to the far end and poke your head through the wall.

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There's some kind of physically rendered ball machine behind the wall doing stuff.

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No idea how it works, but there's a load of yellow and red balls in a tube flying back and forth.

grand zealot
#

Any work arounds with flying?

raven silo
#

want to fly just put collider on your avatar hand push the collider in our body

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or make make platform on collider stick then keep walking on the platform plane you made on it

long venture
#

Thats nice until you get accused of hacking by players

Feels bad

mighty galleon
#

<.<

civic plume
#

it seems they fucked the microphone system now...

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someone complained my mic lag

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now im hearing 3 peoples mic lag

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wtdf

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like get ur shit together, do some dev testing im happy to dev test u kno >.>

glossy wharf
#

Fine on my end

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seems like an issue on your end

civic plume
#

ok one of them fixed it by changing their input

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crasher in mic night oof

quartz basin
#

Always blame others first and then try to fix the problem only you have.

twin jacinth
#

Oof unexpected bugs man
you just don't clap your hands and its fixed you have to find the fault of the bug then find a way to fix it without fucking up something else, test it again and then you can roll it out but theres a lot of time where bugs are not detected in the testing phase, it's normal >.< AAA companies have this all the time
find a game that had no bugs on release or patch, it's really rare.

civic plume
#

isn't that the devs problem?

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i cbf reading ur message sorry

twin jacinth
#

Lmao

civic plume
vocal shard
#

Is anyone getting extremely high lag

civic plume
#

nope

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thats just because u have i3 2 core 2 thred with 2890ti gtx genforc

vocal shard
#

Weird my ping is really high today

civic plume
#

oof

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same tho

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its about 40 higher

vocal shard
#

I’m usually 200

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At 900 atm

civic plume
#

its always 220-230 but today its 280-300

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wow

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that might be ur side thats crazy

vocal shard
#

Maybe aha

civic plume
#

this the most ping ive got since February when the game got flooded

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the days of server wide crashes and forever loading screens oof

topaz sapphire
#

Sup everyone, just letting you guys know Dead Space VR is still going to be released soon along with HDS: Halloween map!

subtle prawn
vital rune
#

Dead Space?

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wasnt that game series fucking dead

civic plume
#

some,body say space?>

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fuuuck discord takes forever to send messages smh

vale palm
#

doubt it, the studio got killed by ea

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unless he means a vrchat map

topaz sapphire
#

VRChat Dead Space VR indeed.

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I've been working on it for 2 months, but put on hold for Halloween.

civic plume
#

nice man

topaz sapphire
#

There were a few leaked images and footages due to someone leaking the World ID.

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But its good now hehe.

vocal shard
#

heh

random glade
#

dumb question, but with eye tracking is that a thing you need to buy and install or does oculus come with it?

topaz sapphire
#

No.

#

Are you talking about Avatar Eye trtacking?

#

Or actual eye-tracking.

twin jacinth
#

The eyes track you ingame to look like they look at you

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no real tracking

topaz sapphire
#

That's just standard, how you setup your avatar.

#

I mean its not standard sorry.

#

But if you follow the avatar guides, included with CATS (Blender) it will work.

vital rune
#

CATS can be a real mixed bag

#

on one hand it can be useful

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but at other times it would just wreck all your progress

civic plume
#

lol i made my avatar constantly lock to the players camera locally, its funny xd

topaz sapphire
#

Really depends how much you use CATS, never had issues with it.

civic plume
#

no i purposely did it

topaz sapphire
#

No I meant that it wrecks your progres shaha.

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You're fine dude.

civic plume
#

:p

ocean bramble
#

@vital rune How can cats wreck all your progress? thonk

ruby burrow
#

Belatedly... Wtf is a "2890ti gtx genforc"
We're still in the 1000 series, let alone the 2000 series or 2800s. ^ ^;

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Granted, having a super advanced GPU from the future crammed onto a current day motherboard probably wouldn't work at all, so... eh.

ocean bramble
#

Where did you get that from? 😄

#

Oh I see xD

rigid crescent
#

Aren't we not in the 1000s if there's 2080s?

ruby burrow
#

Are those released now?

rigid crescent
#

Yeah they're like 900 bucks

ruby burrow
#

Oh, well scratch that then. I'm clearly not paying attention. I thought they were coming soon.

#

Oh shit. How many gigglebites has that thing got? ._.

ocean bramble
#

12 GIGARAYS!!!

rigid crescent
#

Hit all the tennis things

ocean bramble
#

Wow 26 bucks for a 2890ti, not bad

rigid crescent
#

Yeah, might buy a few for mining

ruby burrow
#

"Yehlex OPS 2890Ti Graphite" It's got to be powerful with a name like that.

ocean bramble
#

I'm gonna mine so many TennisCoins

hallow zenith
#

69 gddr5

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gddr69*

ocean bramble
#

But can it run Crisis?

storm stag
#

ive noticed that when my steam is on VRC takes awhile to DL some Maps and avatars
But when steam is turned off and i play VRC via exe it seems to return the net speed

vital rune
#

because when Steam downloads some shit

#

it eats up 3/4 of your bandwidth

storm stag
#

im not downloading anything in Steam not since the VRC update yesterday

civic plume
#

6 mega rays

#

u seen the z390 gigabyte mbo’s? their tier names is absolutely hilarious

hallow zenith
#

you can play without steam?

sacred dove
#

I'm pretty sure I get kicked from like two worlds per day for stupid reasons

#

I wonder if that's gonna get me put as a trouble user

#

Because most of the times like I said it's completely arbitrary and or stupid reasons

#

some people just get upset at my crusader avatar

#

Ask me to change it so I just start deus vulting

#

Well rather they get mad at me and DEMAND I change it

umbral reef
#

Do they demand you change it though or ask you to change it...

sacred dove
#

Demand

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Quite pissily too

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My god can a man not crusade

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The world these days

#

This time they got mad that I was way better at being mike pence than them in the halloween town map

#

Lmfao those keyblades

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They shocked me so I zippidy zoppidy doobity boppitied them until they couldn't stand uppity

rigid crescent
#

I want a Mike Pence avatar with electricity particles buuuut I also don't wanna get banned

vocal shard
#

Oh Goodness Gracious Adventitious

rigid crescent
#

Mike "Electric Fence" Pence

vocal shard
#

Ok this is so sadly random, Alexa play:

vital rune
#

BFG Division

vocal shard
#

DE

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SPA

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––NISH INQUISITION

vital rune
#

BFG Division is better anyway

vocal shard
#

But is it better than the Spanish Inquisition*!!?*

vital rune
#

yes

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whenever BFG Division starts playing

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headbang warning

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and a insumountible temptation to rip and tear demons

#

uncontrollable

vocal shard
ruby burrow
#

If you're pissing off enough people to get vote kicked, and frequently to boot, that's 100% your fault and yes, very likely to get you demoted or marked nuisance if you keep it up, since multiple people are guaranteed to be blocking you for it too.

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I have a friend who likes to use the crusader avatars, and he gets the same reaction from people fed up of the braindead memers that often spam it around public rooms. Rather than deliberately noise spamming them in response like a child, he just says something along the lines of, "Don't worry, I'm not gonna spam or anything" and people treat him just fine from then on.

sacred dove
#

Squishy get over yourself I don't do any of that shit

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I only piss with people who are either inconsiderate, attempting to interrupt a conversation rudely because they don't understand social queues, or are acting as if they are an authority on how I get to have fun because muh avatar is offenzibe

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And even then I'm not toxic when I do it, I just go off on them like an adult by telling them they need to grow up and that they have no right to barge in on a conversation they are not a part of, or I will antagonize them for being disrespectful and entitled or which ever

#

If anything I prefer to refrain from vulgar language and stick to real people, not NPCS who can't form any advanced cognetive thought. But sometimes you just can't help but walk in on a bunch of insane drones who can't cope with realistic and non-suckup behavior

still lark
#

how do you even get kicked? lmao

median basalt
#

I almost never get kicked

sacred dove
#

Dude

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I'll put it this way

#

I grew up in a loud household

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My inside voice is the akin to your yelling voice

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I have no such thing as a low tone it just

#

I don't have one, very loud household

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So when I talk I can get loud right

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Some people really don't like that and think I'm screaming so I get kicked

#

That's the majority reason

ruby burrow
#

I have literally never been kicked.

#

Perhaps I'm crazy, but my money is still on you being the problem, not everyone else.

still lark
#

Turn down your mic then, while not the best solution, it'll help.

sacred dove
#

Nice, that probably means you either don't have autism or don't come off as a screaming asshole to the cultist gummybears who often times populate the great pug

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Breh

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My mic is an ASMR mic so if I turn it down nobody hears me

median basalt
#

I have autism.

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It's not an excuse.

sacred dove
#

Cool I'm not talking to you

still lark
#

LOL

median basalt
#

It's a public Discord

sacred dove
#

Sure but I mean

median basalt
#

If you want 1 on 1 chats so much then go whine in DM's.

sacred dove
#

Doesn't mean I have to involve myself with you

median basalt
#

Ok, then don't.

wind field
#

no survivors

sacred dove
#

woah darling nobody's whining here it's just banter

still lark
#

🤔 🤦

umbral reef
#

I think we just got an example of why he gets kicked so often

median basalt
#

"it was just bantz" lmao

#

^

sacred dove
#

That's pretty toxic of you

#

I'm being nothing but polite

umbral reef
#

Yea no

median basalt
#

Not at all

#

"yea um im not talking to u ok??" is not polite

sacred dove
#

Nah, I definitely am being polite. I'm not insulting or attacking anybody.

umbral reef
#

You might think you act normal for your social behavior
But in the normal normal world what you just said is pretty toxic

still lark
#

"cool" = sarcasm

umbral reef
#

Just because you dont call me an fuck wit does not mean your being non toxic

sacred dove
#

Then that word is arbitrary and holds no meaning

#

this isn't a debate discord my point is that I'm not a miscreant

still lark
#

Can we call a vote to kick in here? 😉

umbral reef
#

Calling someone an 'Darling that is whining because its just banter' after telling them in a public place they cant partake within a conversation isnt proper social behavior

sacred dove
#

Oh stop being absurd that's not what I said or implied at all

median basalt
#

@still lark that would require a majority vote I think, good luck getting 13k people to vote on anything lol

umbral reef
#

Bruh- Read up- You legit said that

#

Want me to screensot it even?

median basalt
#

Reminds me of the good ol' KF1 days in servers that broke the player cap

regal folio
#

It would be extremely easy to not dogpile a socially awkward person

#

But you chose to do it anyway

#

Shame on all of you

sacred dove
#

Yeesh

median basalt
#

Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here.

sacred dove
#

Comin in hot

still lark
#

@median basalt What If I said chairs will be readded if > 50% vote? :D

median basalt
#

It's not like he was being toxic and calling people cultist gummybears

#

Lol

sacred dove
#

I wasn't calling anybody anything like that in here

#

That wasn't toxic 👌

median basalt
#

Sure, but you're still referring to a ton of people that way

still lark
#

Um, yes it is

umbral reef
#

@regal folio Social awkward?

ruby burrow
#

I think he was referring to some kind of avatar he's seen in the pug or something?

umbral reef
#

Im not sure what you are seeing but im fairly sure this person is properly capable of talking

median basalt
#

What is it with people using their "disabilities" as shields against criticism?

still lark
#

Just because they're not in here doesn't mean it's not toxic

ruby burrow
#

Regardless, he's got an exceptional talent for picking fights with rooms full of people.

sacred dove
#

Aye it does because I'm not referring to or attacking anybody here

#

You're using the term toxic very broadly

median basalt
#

@sacred dove nice hypocrisy

regal folio
#

Clearly this individual is not the type to get along in large social settings

still lark
#

You keep using the word "here" and it's a big 🤔

regal folio
#

They've probably been like this and had difficulties with it their whole lives

median basalt
#

Good thing about VRC is that it gives you a very safe environment to practice social interaction in.

regal folio
#

And here you are, around five of you, just pogging on him when he made no such effort to start this fight.

#

You all need to stop.

median basalt
#

"I grew up in a loud household" might be an excuse for the first day on VRC or so

umbral reef
#

Cant deny i used it broadly but still- What you said comes over fairly aggressive and negative.
You could have phrased it so much better and not have gotten any flack from it

median basalt
#

@regal folio bully hunters incoming

regal folio
#

Now THAT'S toxic.

median basalt
#

Thanks

umbral reef
#

And its an behavior of speech, you cna change that or accept not everyone in the world thinks its normal

regal folio
#

Alright how about we do this instead since nobody here knows how to control themselves

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<@&397642795457970181>

umbral reef
#

Im myself am really blunt and upfront about things. I know when and where i can be like this and when i have to act diffrent

regal folio
#

This needs to stop pronoto please

sacred dove
#

Well I mean they're not wrong

median basalt
#

It doesn't really seem like a good excuse. I have had autism my entire life and I adapted.

sacred dove
#

Okay

#

That means nothing

#

Autism is a spectrum

umbral reef
#

Also nanachi your honstly insulting the dude by now with what you are saying imo... Your making this FAR from better

median basalt
#

Inb4 "it's a psectrum"

#

Shit too late

still lark
#

ahahaha

sacred dove
#

Your autism could be leagues different from mine

#

You're just projecting quite rudely your own experiences onto my own

median basalt
#

I'd like to remind you that a few years ago, I was considered on the low-functioning end of said spectrum.

sacred dove
#

Congratulations on making such a strong effort to overcome it

median basalt
#

This game has done wonders for my social interaction practice, but it requires a learning attitude of some sort.

sacred dove
#

👌 Glad that works for you

regal folio
#

Are we still going

median basalt
#

The problem is, your thought process seems to be "I have autism, therefore I cannot overcome this. I'll continue my behavior."

sacred dove
#

That's not what I said at all.

median basalt
#

So, are you actively working on your loudness problem then?

sacred dove
#

Listen if you're curious to my... FUCKING TELEMARKETERs

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Okay

#

anyway

#

What if I told you that the problem is physical

#

My vocal cords don't have a quiet setting it sounds like a dieing gurgling cat when I whisper

#

Because that's quite seriously how it is

umbral reef
#

Yotsu- I think rokk is getting that a bit wrong but it is what nanchi was kinda implying...
But again- What you said came over aggressive and negative.

median basalt
#

Nobody said you had to whisper

sacred dove
#

Yes but my whisper is your inside voice

#

that's the issue

median basalt
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

umbral reef
#

You can phrase things diffrent even while yelling to make it sound less /that/

sacred dove
#

How do you figure

ruby burrow
#

The mic settings have plenty of adjustment range. No matter what kind of mic you have, there's a level for it.

umbral reef
#

And for the loudness- You can try looking into more hardware options. Programs like voicechangers can also lower the dB instead of just change it.

regal folio
#

Well see that's better, if you're gonna wag your finger at someone don't just berate them give them real criticism

median basalt
#

Yeah, could always just turn your mic down

#

You might sound a little "clippy" at first

#

As in, your mic will clip a bit if it's not very high quality

#

Since you're still going past its maximum and then lowering it artificially

#

But it should work

ruby burrow
#

There's no such thing as being stuck between only two options of yelling down peoples ears, to suddenly being mute.

#

More specifically, it's more likely to do with how you said you react to people asking you to tone it down.

sacred dove
#

Nah I never said anything about how I react to them telling me to tone it down

ruby burrow
#

"Could you not _____" > does it more in retaliation
Is not a good way to get along.

sacred dove
#

I told you how I react to them wimpering about my chain mail

ruby burrow
#

Same deal.

#

If they don't like your spam avatar, the response is not to deliberately spam them.

vocal shard
#

can you take this to DM's since only both of you are at each other's throat ? thanks

sacred dove
#

I don't think we are anymore

#

Also squishy don't substitute your reality for mine, this isn't a spam avatar\

#

I know what one you're talking about

ruby burrow
#

It was more him and everyone else spare that one well intentioned guy. But yeah, I'm fine to drop. I already had until just now again.

sacred dove
#

That was the one from a LONG time ago that would spew out the crusader symbolism

#

right?

#

@ruby burrow You ARE talking about that one right?

#

I mean like violent particles

ruby burrow
#

There's a bunch of them. Could be any.

sacred dove
#

Right right

#

Mine's very simple

ruby burrow
#

Not just the particles, but the loud booming voice ones are very common.

sacred dove
#

All it does is have a sword and two tracks that activate a set of flare eyes

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It plays power wolf at a very reasonable volume

#

but only when you turn on the gesture

sterile drift
#

Oh my what have I missed here?

sacred dove
#

No particles just the flare eyes and power wolf and a little bit of red lighting from the face

#

nothing spammy or obnoxious unless I were to just spam the music and run inside of people to make it louder

#

which I never do because that would be degenerate

#

Made by Exozze

vocal shard
#

if someone dont like any part of your avatar, he can just block you

#

block the avatar

#

or block any of the effect

#

you should just ignore those people or block them yourself

#

getting kicked like that won't affect your trust score

sacred dove
#

Ah you reckon?

vocal shard
#

or just barely

languid beacon
#

Pizzaguywalkingintoroomonfire.gif

sacred dove
#

Hahahaha

#

Kinda?

#

yeah alright alright

#

Thanks man for answering my initial question

vocal shard
#

people have so many tools to block someone's avatar and they still complain all the time for simple stuff

sacred dove
#

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

#

I'm not gonna change it because you don't like it when you have tools available to deal with it

#

Especially when I'm doing nothing abusive

languid beacon
#

Yeah I never even block or mute I just hide annoying peoples avatars unless they have a loud mic

sacred dove
#

I mean sure I oppress nekos by existing in the same spaces but that's completely different

languid beacon
#

Oh I have no idea what this is about but I can already tell you are fun at parties

umbral reef
#

But they do use those tools... And you complained about them

sacred dove
#

No, they just complain to me and make demands instead of just reasonably blocking my avatar

#

Never happens

#

Also @languid beacon I'm fucking HILARIOUS

languid beacon
#

True. They really should be blocking you silently.

sacred dove
#

Extended exposure may result in an unfortunate tumor but

#

give me an hour and you'll have a ball

#

Fahaha

languid beacon
#

But then again you only see/hear about the ones that don’t do the normal thing and just block you without you knowing about it. You may only be seeing the loud minority.

quartz basin
#

@sacred dove You should be silenced for having a 4chan reference!

sacred dove
#

What

#

No.

#

Yotsuba originates in a manga called Yotsubato!

#

My name is taken from that

#

Not 4chan

sterile drift
#

Four chins.

sacred dove
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It's also the only name I've really been comfortable keeping for more than a while

quartz basin
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Doesn't matter. Same was the thing with Pepe and now look where he is.

sacred dove
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Before I had this I was constantly changing it

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YOTSUBA IS SACRED AND IF YOU DARE UNDERMINE HER INNOCENCE AND HOLYNESS I WILL HAVE AT THEE WITH THE FURY OF A THOUSAND WEEBS

sterile drift
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Undermines

quartz basin
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I should DM you that one particular Doujin fron ShindoL.

sacred dove
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Don't

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I'll cri

sterile drift
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lul

sacred dove
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; ;

languid beacon
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Pepe is unfortunate. Why couldn’t a Ctrl Alt Del character have been repurposed as a hate icon instead of Boy’s Club?

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Then loss could be banned instead.

quartz basin
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Are you insane? His crap is not even entertaining and banning someone which sucks has no purpose.

languid beacon
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It was more a random jab at Buckley heh

sacred dove
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xd

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he tried to take pepe back by killing him but little did he know nobody gave a rat about the canon

languid beacon
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Boys Club was never good

sacred dove
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--^

weary bison
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yo

sacred dove
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I think the situation solved its self

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but yeah

languid beacon
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Yes sir

sacred dove
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that's fine

weary bison
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🐈

sacred dove
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I thought you were gonna say something about the tension earlier

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lol

quartz basin
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Are you some sort of moderator?!

languid beacon
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Epic usernames yes

sacred dove
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Anyway

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My name is sacred and innocent don't you dare meme me

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Hey @weary bison you know those pillars in the sky in the home map

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Any idea if those are just the skybox

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Because

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they look so real you could touch em

languid beacon
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Is Noe the creator of NoeNoe shaders?

weary bison
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I tried flying out there once, seemed like they're just textured on

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yes I do shader stuff

sacred dove
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You did that too eh?

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Jeez

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Five hours on my part

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not a pixel grew closer

weary bison
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there's a bunch of things in the old (bright) hub you can fly out to that are actually modelled

languid beacon
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Your NoeNoe shaders aren’t whitelisted on trust system 😦 love them though

weary bison
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there isn't really a whitelist anymore, it's a somewhat complex fallback system based on shader name and properties

languid beacon
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Oh I had no idea they dropped the whitelist concept

weary bison
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I'll be updating NoeNoe shaders to work with it a little better in the future

languid beacon
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I knew about fallback but thought there was a whitelist too

sacred dove
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Hey noe

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I'll ask you

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I get kicked from rooms maybe twice every couple of days for stupid reasons

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How likely is this to hit me would you say

weary bison
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as far as I'm aware, not much if at all

sacred dove
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I assume I'd have to have been crashing or using a cunty avatar

weary bison
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me and my friends kick each other all the time

sacred dove
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probably video evidence would be needed to really hit me or w/e

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xd oh.

languid beacon
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You have to try much harder than that for your trust rank to go down rather than up

sacred dove
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So it's arbitrary at best

vocal shard
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yes

sacred dove
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Alright that's good to know

vocal shard
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i could just gather a group of idiots like me and mass votekick people in random worlds

tidal aspen
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just don't wear a glowing snapback and you'll be fine :^)

sacred dove
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Lol fuck those things

weary bison
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this is only from what I've seen though

weak hearth
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What are the hotkeys to show stuff like logs/frames/etc in-game? I remember it being a thing, but don't remember what buttons to press. -_- Or maybe it was a beta-only thing?

tidal aspen
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menu + 4

sacred dove
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I think really

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what happens is uh

weak hearth
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aha! menu button! I tried every other modifier. 😄

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Thanks ;p

sacred dove
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I get booted once for every five to ten worlds I enter

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xd

tidal aspen
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eh doesn't really matter you can just press 1-5 till you get the info you want

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pretty sure the log output is 4 though

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ah nvm it's 3

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4 is networking stuff

languid beacon
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Keywords being “you have to try”: unless you are in serious denial, your trust rank won’t go down unless even you agree you deserve it

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It won’t happen from random bad luck

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I think they get a baseline for that kind of stuff

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When the trust update came in they said ranks may shift around as the system learns so they are doing heuristics for sure

sacred dove
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I getcha

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Lets hope the system continues to see them as arbitrary or I'm fucked

languid beacon
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I still think it favors account age too much. So many old trolls who haven’t played for years coming back in as trusted

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Year

sacred dove
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Seriously

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I've been on for a long ass time

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I'm not even known

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That kind of pisses me off

median basalt
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Account age isn't taken into account before a certain time period I think

vocal shard
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yep

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been playing for more than a year

sacred dove
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Trusted user seems to be given out arbitrarily

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I've been into great pug instances

vocal shard
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i'm known user

sacred dove
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where EVERYONE had them

vocal shard
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i played mostly before the trust system was a thing

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so i guess i kinda got fucked there

languid beacon
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I feel like a certain account creation date before a certain point just got slammed to trusted regardless of log time

vocal shard
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i started playing around july 2017 🤷

languid beacon
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I played whenever dk2 came out

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And those are the people I’m talking about

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The people who have not played since then but are coming back are auto-trusted heh

sacred dove
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I started around march of this year iirc?

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Actually

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Maybe just before knuckles was a thing

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Hey does anyone know where the busty adult kanna avatar is

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the one with furry arms and legs

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I wanna show my friend this thing

languid beacon
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I would not care so much about trusted if it wasn’t the only way for non friends to see custom shaders

ruby burrow
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That's the main thing for me also. The shaders.

sacred dove
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I may have found it..

ruby burrow
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And not because of looking shiny without them, but because I've got a few fun avatars that rely on them for their effects to not be obtrusive.

hearty wyvern
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Nani the hecc. Everyone can see anyones shaders. What are you on about homie?

ruby burrow
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With the shaders, it's just a cool subtle effect, and not something a single person ever complained about. Without the shaders, I become an obnoxious giant collection of opaque grey spheres.

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Thus, I basically cannot ever use that effect in public now, or else risk getting blocked and hampering my progress towards trusted.

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Plus... I just don't like annoying people, regardless of whether they do or don't block or whatever.

sacred dove
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Being blocked causes you to not be trusted?

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Let me just create a cabal of blockers

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Smart joke

ruby burrow
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Only speculation.

sacred dove
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good system

ruby burrow
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It might not.

hearty wyvern
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I'm trusted and I'm sure for sure blocked by at least 5 people mang

languid beacon
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They use whatever means they can to determine if you are annoying people. Don’t worry about the trust system, worry about not annoying people. That’s the point.

ruby burrow
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But nuisance rank and such has got to be earned somehow. I suppose it's possible that the trust score cannot go down, and accumulates positively only, but that would somewhat reduce it's value in actually restricting spammers and such.

languid beacon
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The system isn’t perfect but that is the spirit of what it is trying to achiev

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Ranks can go down

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Trust may not but ranks can

vocal shard
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I don't really agree with the trust system, but it can still be worked with.... What I am completely against is people using it to block, voice by ranks, and that mutes can't write anymore. Making them unable to communicate at all.

ruby burrow
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Oh shit...

languid beacon
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Yeah losing finger painting is a big deal

ruby burrow
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How did I not realise that. The poor mutes. D:

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Yikes.

hearty wyvern
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Mutes get the fat blocc from me a lot. Never trust someone with no voice.

ruby burrow
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What reason could you have to block a mute? ^ ^;

hearty wyvern
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Especially mute streamers.

vocal shard
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I like mutes. They 90% of the time are more animated and fun to watch than the rest of us who just stand and talk

hearty wyvern
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Keeps my cache clear of avatars that I would otherwise never interact with. Thays about all.

vocal shard
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I have a friend that's fbt mute. Just a joy to have in our group

ruby burrow
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Mutes are generally the least intrusive and easiest to get along with types.

hearty wyvern
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I'm a mute btw.

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So I blocked myself

ruby burrow
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lol

languid beacon
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I remember a lot of people being upset about losing their only way to communicate

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Vrc isn’t that accessible in the first place so it must suck

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At least they can still friend each other

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I enabled shaders for blues

hearty wyvern
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Tbh. Why the hecc would you join a social network without a solid means to communicate?

languid beacon
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Keep sounds and lights to trusted (even as a known)

steep turret
#

some people like importing models more than talking

vocal shard
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I just turn the entire system off

hearty wyvern
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Like signing up for Facebook and only talking to others through text jpegs

languid beacon
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So just because you can’t speak you feel you shouldn’t play VRChat? Hello?

vocal shard
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Hated it from the start

languid beacon
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Do you realize how stupid that sounds lol

hearty wyvern
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Yes.

steep turret
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lol

vocal shard
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same as you jamie, i turn the system off

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we can block specific avatars now, more than enough for me

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Just particle limiter

hearty wyvern
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Although i woukd wholeheartedly agree that text communication through an in game messenger would be a wonderful addition to the network a sa whole.

vocal shard
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Yeah

hearty wyvern
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Tbh text comms shoyld have been introduced in 2016

vocal shard
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I think they need to make sure that text isn't annoying tho. Like no giant text bubbles over people's heads

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Mah immersion

steep turret
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like a comic book lol

vocal shard
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Lol

hearty wyvern
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I think keeping it to the UI would be better

languid beacon
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I’d be ok with text comms for current world only, local space only (match voice range) and no DM’s

hearty wyvern
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No text bubbles or whatever

serene mulch
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hi

languid beacon
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It’s d be OK with text bubbles I just don’t want vrc to turn into a text game

serene mulch
#

....

languid beacon
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I’m fine with it as an accessibility thing

vocal shard
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Thing is... for desktop users, text over head makes sense... To vr, it's distracting, and constantly have to look up.
Also typing in vr takes too long

languid beacon
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A lot of people currently on voice would leave voice if they could text heh

vocal shard
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True

languid beacon
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I don’t want that

vocal shard
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Lack of text is what make me talk in the first place

languid beacon
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I think that’s a good thing

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People act different in text

vocal shard
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Mhmm

languid beacon
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People are more real on voice

rough pulsar
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A built-in TTS system perhaps

vocal shard
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But being in character is easier in text tho

languid beacon
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They are also less likely to be dicks heh

rough pulsar
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Rather than fucking with several programs to route 3rd party software into the mic device

hearty wyvern
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go to vr to try to build social skills without being judged IRL

only use text because too scared of even the smallest iota of human interaction

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Wowie

vocal shard
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Lol

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I have mute friends that are like that more for the character than being scared. They also have voice account where they will say anything. So that's not completely accurate

sacred dove
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dudes

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just be me

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be able to sound like a believable female

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naturally

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with zero effort

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also a dude ify ou choose

vocal shard
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While mute, they are really active, climbing stuff and act cute. With voice... Mostly stand and sh*t talk. Lol

sacred dove
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just have a fluid voice

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ez

hearty wyvern
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People can be so vapid and vain even in VR. Wild. Just the human condition i guess

languid beacon
#

You’d be surprised. I came from Second Life it’s a world of shy people who hate the day it got voice chat. Ditching it for vrc was a breath of fresh air with people actually talking

vocal shard
#

SL... Oh god

hearty wyvern
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Second life was built for people to get bullied.

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Linden knows this.

languid beacon
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Heh I am a SL vet I was there for over 11 years kill me

sacred dove
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I probably bullied Adeon at one point

hearty wyvern
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I wont kill you, but I'm blocking you in Vrchat.

languid beacon
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That’s fine lol

sacred dove
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You talkin to me?

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You don't know who I am in vrchat

hearty wyvern
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Ok adeon

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Jk*

languid beacon
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And nah trolls never left the starting areas same with VRChat just don’t go to presentation room or hangout house and it’s troll free

hearty wyvern
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The only thing in SL I thought was weird were biker gangs

languid beacon
#

Probably should switch this to random chat lol

hearty wyvern
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If you want to

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Should have been on activeworlds back in 1996

languid beacon
#

I see VRChat as everything SL should have been

hearty wyvern
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It was lit

languid beacon
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Lose the dumb name and embrace vr but they wouldn’t do it

hearty wyvern
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Theyre working on a VR app right now

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It wont ever be as popular as Vrchat though

languid beacon
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Over the years I pressed for : custom skeletons, custom shaders, mirrors, mocap, vr support. They never do it then comes VRChat doing everything I told them to do lol

hearty wyvern
#

Vrchat is really easy to create, upload, and interact. Unity is perfect for this app

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It also doesn't cost $400 for a avatar unless you WANT to bypass the incredibly easy creation of one with a few tutorial vids.

languid beacon
#

I’m 110% done with Linden Lab

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Sansar can’t even get walking right

hearty wyvern
#

Although. Mo education of Vrchat has to happen in some capacity at some point im sure.

languid beacon
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239 hours in vrc but something as simple as walking in sansar makes me ill they are doing something foundationally wrong

hearty wyvern
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Monetization*

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You sweet summer child

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I'm at 1460 hours now lmao

languid beacon
#

I meant I’m used to vr at this point

hearty wyvern
#

Ah yeah

languid beacon
#

I’ve also only been in vrc for 2 months

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I will rake in hours fast lol

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I ditched Second Life for this

hearty wyvern
languid beacon
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Plenty of time

hearty wyvern
#

I ditched RUST

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lmao...

languid beacon
#

I will say my biggest complaint is complex logic is much harder in world creation for VRChat than it is for SL. SL’s scripting language was very polished and I just want a text editor and a function library.

hearty wyvern
#

I was an administrator for a rust server for about u months. Basically taking care of parents children in a videogame. All of whom were about as easy to interact with as angry knuckles from february in Vrchat.

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It was horrid.

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7 months*

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100 crybabies mad they got raided. Whew... Anyways ueah

#

SL has also been around for Well over twice as long.

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I wonder if we will ever get more modern unity stuff? 5.6 is pretty old now.

languid beacon
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Clueless in that department. Never used Unity until VRC

hearty wyvern
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Hmm...

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5.6 is an almost 3 year old build version