what do you expect of an EA shareholder mic
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
north axle
Kicked him.
tacit plank
You want everything disabled by default, then?
vocal shard
blocked him ages ago
sterile drift
@north axle Nice
vocal shard
thanks, pan
tacit plank
Or an AI to customize it for you?
vocal shard
pun you a blessing
thick flare
finally
vocal shard
caff hes gone
maiden hound
Good idea
vocal shard
actually hes using a general fallacy
tacit plank
Ah, nice
vocal shard
like
tacit plank
He should at least come up with an alternative
maiden hound
He’s one of those people who go too deep and don’t wanna give up
vocal shard
putting the burden of proof on others is the oldest tactic in them book
hes a straight up moron who cant argue without making up evidence
sterile drift
Crashing and don't like using the Trust System? Just use a modified client and get banned 👌😂
vocal shard
like flat earthers
"hurr durr, the system let me customize exactly what i want, but it's flawed because I have to do it"
north axle
No need to mock him now.
sterile drift
k
maiden hound
Ikr how is he not even being banned or something though
maiden hound
He admitted to being a crasher right?
vocal shard
how is your day so far
thick flare
he did?
maiden hound
Using crash guns
vocal shard
i'll mock as long as i dont get bored of mocking him
he asked for it
you can't just go apeshit on a public channel and dont expect people to fuck around with you
^
maiden hound
😂 ^
vocal shard
was typing that
thick flare
one thing though
vocal shard
ill just
thick flare
i have heard that the rendering twice in vr is not real
can someone explain it to me?
thick flare
usually in vr game , you have to render everything twice, but thats not the case for vrchat
vocal shard
render for the left eye and render for the right eye
ill ask my IT friend who owns a vive hes pretty smart
thick flare
that is what i heard anyway
rigid crescent
It's left, right, and to desktop if you've got stream camera on
That's why it can affect performance
vocal shard
ive heard supersampling can kill vrchat fps
sterile drift
Ouf
vocal shard
and that steamvr leaves it at an absurd rate by default
"ouf"
something like 200%
is that french
maiden hound
Ouffe is egg in French
sterile drift
Yea?
maiden hound
Might have spelt it wrong
north axle
Oui.
sterile drift
"Ouffe" LOL
vocal shard
get your croissant right
maiden hound
Boef is beef
vocal shard
boeuf
sterile drift
I wasn't even going for egg either
thick flare
i have heard that the game uses single pass stereo rendering, so it only renders once in vr, think i saw it somewhere in discord
maiden hound
I’m Canadian I LEARNED FRENCH WHY DONT I KNOW THIS
vocal shard
J'ai envie d'aller au Canada
maiden hound
I know how to pronounce but not to spell
vocal shard
yeah
maiden hound
Jaime Appelle delaney, ca va bein
vocal shard
because french is an absolute nightmare when you write it
"Je m'appelle Delaney, ça va bien"
vocal shard
lmao
vocal shard
J'aime les oeufs
thick flare
uhh...uhhh.. tres bien
rigid crescent
@median basalt not to discredit that, but the dude was a troll of the highest order
vocal shard
A bientôt, Teito
rigid crescent
I've understood your point for a while though, and those guys are still the massive minority, assuming he was even telling the truth.
vocal shard
closest answer ive gotten was "most shaders weren't built with VR in mind
a few shaders are, due to it having double pass from a interpolation check."
mic
i'm not taking anyone sides here
rigid crescent
Also yeah 200% is right
vocal shard
but i went to some random pugs in the last week
without even searching for it
a lot of people are ignoring or insulting visitors
like in the 20 people there
like 3-4 will just be toxic to them
thick flare
i am mostly in hub, so far never seen anything like that
but i have heard about some cases from reddit
rigid crescent
I'm solely in pugs and the most I see are people memeing
vocal shard
isnt the public pug a horrible place though
oh yeah
both in preformance and people
maiden hound
Lol I’m mostly in lag box
maiden hound
Where all the cool emotes are
vocal shard
but i saw some people being serious
rigid crescent
Nah i have tons of fun there, im almost exclusively in them.
vocal shard
"lag free box" aka "cancer full box"
rigid crescent
Yeah, apparently a certain chat mod here blocked someone for not turning their status from yellow to green
vocal shard
wtf
ive been in a battle world with my pals just two days ago tbh and one of the people we joined in on said he blocks shaders on anyone below trusted
rigid crescent
With a nice "fuck you" before doing it. Thatd a second hand story though, so take that as you eill
umbral reef
Senior chatmod or just an chatmod
rigid crescent
Lemme check
vocal shard
he asked why my model looked scuffed as fuck and also "newbies and their avatar worlds"
rigid crescent
Senior
rigid crescent
Nah
umbral reef
Yah c:
vocal shard
dming the name is never good
rigid crescent
It's gucci, not 100% confirmed since i wasnt there
rigid crescent
So i won't spread the name
sterile drift
Okay so I think I missed something
vocal shard
but dont say "lol u suck at making avatars" when you dont like what you see lol
if you want my model to look like thrash
sure
go ahead
sterile drift
What's an issue that people see in the pug?
thick flare
i am fine with people blocking me, if it doesn't count towards the rank
thick flare
i could care less
vocal shard
some people there arent the best caliber too
sterile drift
Oh I know the Pug is unoptimized.
vocal shard
they tend to be the loudest might i add
sterile drift
But like
rigid crescent
For me, the trick is going to pugs or publics in general with friends
rigid crescent
People both good and bad are more inclined to approach groups
vocal shard
it feels awkward when you join a public world and everyone's in their own circle though js
thick flare
he is saying that some people actually block the visitor and new user rank
vocal shard
about being toxic to low rank users
thick flare
not just blocking the shader
rigid crescent
That's why you bring your own circle
rigid crescent
And the socially inclined people can approach you
vocal shard
👌 😂
kindred sand
yummy a snuggly little rin
rigid crescent
The ones that aren't tend to mill around and you can interact with them if you want or judt let them hang out
vocal shard
the problem is
thick flare
probably the same group of people who want veteran back🤷
rigid crescent
I try and greet people that walk up though
opaque hawk
I was at the pug last night. Lots of polite and friendly grey people
vocal shard
most non-socially inclined people dont exactly get along with the extroverted folk
like a conversation can be held up sure
but god do extroverts jump from one topic to another like the duel in a harry potter ps1 game but on steroids
ancient kindle
yiiikes
sterile drift
I want so badly to make myself appear as User but I like my avatars to look decent and I had shaders disabled for users at one point, now animations are disabled. Who isn't to say others don't have the same going with them?
ancient kindle
anyone know how oflten ranking updates?
vocal shard
it doesnt
sterile drift
It doesn't happen in waves
vocal shard
you just happen to get up sometimes
sterile drift
It just depends on a "Trust Score"
ancient kindle
yiiiikes
sterile drift
Yolks
vocal shard
randomly
you get the rank lootbox and it gives you a rank
i feel you
was a user
became new user
vrchat can time-travel to make you new pass it on
vocal shard
revoultionary tech
rigid crescent
Oooh drops from trusted to user? Now I'm really worried I lost my rank;-;
ancient kindle
my avatar has a broken mesh that blinds people in the pug and i just stacked up blocks from it
its big yikes
sterile drift
@vocal shard You know what I think it is?
thick flare
i am still a user
vocal shard
once something happens to make me lose my uploading privilages im dropping down to visitor
thick flare
good
vocal shard
gonna call it already
sterile drift
I think they might have taken the Veteran (or system_trust_legend) out of the API
Because I'm still Trusted and everyone's saying they went down a rank
sterile drift
I think them taking system_trust_legend out of the API made everyone go down one somehow
sterile drift
Yeayea
vocal shard
3 days later, dropped to known
sterile drift
Ik
vocal shard
i didnt even play during that time
AGING BACKWARDS IN VRCHAT (Lost THREE ranks in ONE day OMG!!!!) (In the HOOD) (not clickbait)
me mad
ancient kindle
lowkey hella broken
thick flare
drop one more rank to join my gang
sterile drift
@vocal shard New video title
vocal shard
teito im making more content so i can join your gang
too bad my youtube channel is dead
thick flare
you don't need any content to rank up
vocal shard
im just putting it there so people can have more things to click at on my profile
rigid crescent
They did say they were adjusting the ranks.
Content definitely helps but it's not required.
rigid crescent
I wish they'd implement the way to gift avatars they mentioned a while back.
thick flare
friends does matter
rigid crescent
It all matters, it just isn't one thing
vocal shard
well too bad im not good at making new friends
rigid crescent
It's not one single factor that's definite.
vocal shard
inb4 friend hoarders for rank
thick flare
it is a complex algorithm which takes a little from every aspect
rigid crescent
That just means you'll progress slower I think. You'll still progress.
vocal shard
it already happens with maps
rigid crescent
It's really easy to do, they alresdy do it with bans
vocal shard
i dont feel making a map matters since its always about how many people visit said map
and not many people visit new maps anymore
rigid crescent
Is it?
vocal shard
unless its an avatar world
rigid crescent
You can't exactly confirm that.
thick flare
i suck at making map , which is why i won't make it public
thick flare
it is literally a plane with a building
vocal shard
am new user with two public maps at an alltime 0 visitor count
if it doesnt matter, it hurts regardless
imagine working hard to get public so people can just not see your work
vocal shard
well thats for the trust system i guess
they did say something about popular content
im not aiming for popularity
thick flare
i hate the idea that you publish your world just to farm the rank though
vocal shard
but
rigid crescent
Yeah that seemed like bs to me lol
vocal shard
when you make something you really like
rigid crescent
"Popular content"
vocal shard
you want people to enjoy that thing too
rigid crescent
Then tell people about ot
thick flare
yes, but some people actually argued that
vocal shard
did
rigid crescent
Put yourself out there, invite friends
thick flare
since i made popular content, i should get a veteran
sterile drift
The description said "Very popular content" or something
thick flare
as a recognition :>
sterile drift
Lol
rigid crescent
Yeah that totally wasn't trueb
sterile drift
And I had veteran and I didn't have popular content
vocal shard
veteran was a mess change my mind
rigid crescent
Definitely was
thick flare
oh wait the post is gone
sterile drift
That made it a mess
rigid crescent
The rank was weighted so much towards judt friends
vocal shard
the veteran crybaby canny is gone?
thick flare
the bring back vetaran post in canny
rigid crescent
Oof
vocal shard
destroyed
of course it's gone
it's was dumb, useless and didnt add anything useful to the whole system
"waaaaaaaaaah veteran was good youre just whining the devs will agree with me"
gets canny removed for whining
thick flare
i was constantly face palming myself when i read that post
vocal shard
does anyone have a wayback for that post?
people were just whining about "mUh SupErIoR rAnK"
i need to see what went down minutes before it disappeared
opaque hawk
That got pulled down? That makes me smile
vocal shard
a good day in the history of vrchat
rigid crescent
I didn't realize map makers had circle jerking fanboys
rigid crescent
One reply to my pointing out that it wasn't for notoriety or a badge for world creation replied with something like "you're right it wasn't for that but they deserve it"
Twice
thick flare
yeah i saw that
vocal shard
"i make worlds because i enjoy making content you MUST REWARD ME"
"im delaying my world because i didnt get my rank shut up h8er"
rigid crescent
They agreed with me twice and still said their friend deserved vet
thick flare
you and g1fan constantly battling those zombie fans
vocal shard
legit
thick flare
"i saw how many efforts you have put into making this map, you definitely deserve it"
vocal shard
epic
rigid crescent
I made 2 or 3 posts before realizing it was a waste arguing with someone who agreed with me yet still somehow thought they deserved it
thick flare
it is ok if they want some sort of recognition
but it is not part of the trust system
vocal shard
^^
thick flare
how hard is it to understand that?
vocal shard
give them a badge or something
not a rank
or dont give anything ?
and dont make the badge limited to a user rank
allow anyone to get it
when yoou made quality world, you didnt ask for anything back, you were fine
why do you go apeshit now ?
thick flare
yeah
vocal shard
you do it because you enjoy it, not for some worthless badge
speaking of which how do you promote a world
rigid crescent
I think people with really popular content deserve something and I think it would serve as an incentive for more people to put forth the effort.
vocal shard
i cant think of a way to do it without sounding like an attention whore
rigid crescent
It would raise quality if properly done.
vocal shard
yeah
thick flare
invite a streamer into it
rigid crescent
I agree that shouldn't be the sole reason to do it
thick flare
insta popularity
vocal shard
streamers are mostly people with three brain cells
rigid crescent
But it doesn't harm anything. If all it takes is a little badge to make people improve or want to make worlds, by all means do it
vocal shard
and those who arent pretend to have three brain cells so they dont get attacked
people who generalize are assholes btw
rigid crescent
Yep
vocal shard
thick flare
fun fact, i haven't met any streamer yet within my 4 months of playing
opaque hawk
Funny enough a streamer really liked a couple of my avatars and we had a mutual friend remix some of my avatars to align with his brand.
vocal shard
but you cant be sure the streaming community in vrchat isnt majorly made out of some very rude people
those big vrchat streamer will ignore you if you don't provide content basically
rigid crescent
I have a lot of friends who stream that are great people, you just generalize because there's plenty of bad ones.
You can't be sure of the opposite.
vocal shard
good people are there they just dont come around
rigid crescent
So why generalize
vocal shard
they get overshadowed by bad people
rigid crescent
You project your poor experiences with vrchat on a lot of things
vocal shard
if i invite any streamer big chance theyre a bad person
if i invite a trusted user, big chance he will shake my screen too
i dont say ALL streamers are bad
rigid crescent
I coincidentally met and befriended all the nice ones without knowing they were streamers?
vocal shard
i don't care that much about streamers tbh
i tend to run away from them
i don't like being on stream
yet vrchat the most popular streamers have this idea that being rude and loud and obnoxious means good popularity
thick flare
i don't know much about streamer
vocal shard
1 person that is ._. does you wrong, everyone of said group would do wrong to you too... Isn't this mentality that made many horrible events*?*
vocal shard
ive seen many vrchat streams that boiled down to "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME PEOPLE IN WORLD ANIME IS GAY"
rigid crescent
Not popular ones that's for sure.
thick flare
wha--\
vocal shard
and i dont know
rigid crescent
Not "most" of them either.
vocal shard
maybe the good streamers arent popular enough
Pardon, say that again*?* @vocal shard
thick flare
anime is gay
rigid crescent
I'll do some looking once I'm off work l, but you just seem biased
vocal shard
not to mention how some suck up to toxic mods just to stay popular
Woo woo, 👏 territory here
like come on
We have a wild Rin on the loose
how many times has it happened
streamer is nice
good person, very decent
he gets popular and all hell breaks loose
Idk, and I don't care 
almost never watch streams, only Snippets of them in a form of a video..
you arent sure youre watching the same person anymore
it happens far too often and that should not be a standard
thick flare
you either die as a good streamer, or you live long enough to watch yourself becoming a toxic
vocal shard
So you are saying, giving power to someone to make them feel special and above the rest is a bad mentality*?* It's only bad if the said "nice" person is not able to use it right, or they weren't nice to begin with...
so
does that mean it doesnt happen in streaming
rigid crescent
But its still not "most popular streamers"
rigid crescent
It's a thing that occurs, yes. But you're the master of generalizations based on poor experiences you've had, which are partially based on your personality and how you view them due yo it.
vocal shard
we can keep going at "i know a lot of good streamers youre wrong"
"i know a lot of bad streamers youre wrong"
rigid crescent
So don't generalize
vocal shard
Sounds good to me
rigid crescent
E z
ancient kindle
can we not even use the word streamers lmao
rigid crescent
Because you've admitted we both can't know without proper research
vocal shard
but it isnt good or productive
im not inviting streamers regardless, they arent the type of popularity i want
always loud
vocal shard
im saying
im not good at conversations
theyre a person who requires me in the world
rigid crescent
Streamers are "always" loud
vocal shard
What popularity do you want 🤔 introverts, introverted ambiverts, and shy extroverts 🤔
even if they werent
rigid crescent
No they don't
vocal shard
ill still have to stick around to talk to them
rigid crescent
Why
vocal shard
because
rigid crescent
Streamers go to worlds without creators all the time
thick flare
post portal link
rigid crescent
I dont see Shonzo in the room every time a streamer is there
vocal shard
thats because its already a popular world
you need people in a world to make it visitable
most people dont join 0 user instances
rigid crescent
So before it was he was always there?
vocal shard
we dont know
rigid crescent
That's what we mean by effort. Post portal links, explain how to use them.
If you want to reslly advertise your world.
If you want a streamer in it, give them the link and ask them
vocal shard
i dont even know what are portal links but ok
I wonder if there will ever be implemented a way to stop portals to allow entrance and non-friends from joining a server...
vocal shard
and i dont believe you really need to advertise a world if its good
but vrchat can just bury good worlds under four (lag free) planes
rigid crescent
Why?
vocal shard
i dunno
rigid crescent
How do people know zero person instances are good?
vocal shard
the thousands that visit new worlds will see it and see if its good?
vocal shard
ever since everyone apparently visit new worlds all the time
thick flare
you have to get that thousands of players into it in the first place
vocal shard
didnt you hear teito
some people visit new worlds exclusively
im not sure if they exist but many have said so
So what... New world Safari hunters 🤔 sounds neat
🤷
thick flare
streamer hunter world
vocal shard
please no
thick flare
where you have streamer npc walking around and you can hunt them down
vocal shard
unless you can tag em and shoot em up
oh
im kind of in
is anyone making that yet
rigid crescent
So explain how worlds get popular if people don't visit them and also don't advertise
vocal shard
new worlders see world and like it
Teito, has anyone told you you can be a leader, sub-leader, main-head*?* Cause I'mma be telling that you now...
convince friends to visit
thick flare
the easiest kind of world is avatar world, then you go around showing off your avatar , if people like it, they will ask
vocal shard
friends make friends visit
thick flare
that is when you promote it
vocal shard
world gets popular
vocal shard
no
some people visit new worlds for the kicks
you dont pay them or spam visit my world in their faces
thick flare
i am the only leader, no sub leader bullshit
rigid crescent
So the few people you said visiting new worlds somehow make it popular
rigid crescent
Ok, sounds flawed but sure.
vocal shard
im not sure never seen any before
They can inform other people about said new world's...
^
word of mouth isnt promotion
unless youre speaking
Voluntary promotion..
Still promotion
Except for free
you dont need to post in four different social media accounts to get a good world popular
cerulean dust
@vocal shard , what's your world called? I'll go check it out when I get online later.
cerulean dust
ouch
rigid crescent
So, Rin. What you're saying is all I have to do to make a world popular is make a good world?
No advertisement needed?
rigid crescent
Seems to be what you're saying.
You said the opposite earlier lol just making sure
vocal shard
why do people visit good worlds then?
and avoid laggy crap?
Is... IS EARTH-CHAN HUGGING A EBOLA FILLED UGANDI KNACKLES ?!
you can advertise bad worlds all the time and it wont work
sterile drift
Hm
vocal shard
bad from a preformance point
cerulean dust
@vocal shard , Yaes
sterile drift
Yaes
vocal shard
"bad" in terms of effort and play are subjective
What has this world come too 
which is why the recent "low effort world" blocks have been making me uncomfortable
i understand them for (lag free) boxes
but the reviewers are nameless entities, therefore unpredictable
you always need to prepare for a bad case scenario
rigid crescent
You really seem to project a lot of your insecurities on things
vocal shard
You say that like it's a bad thing HOW DARE YOU
rigid crescent
Your whole thing was "no one visits new worlds" and now it's "just make a good world"
cerulean dust
I say world popularity is a matter of both skill and luck. You need to make a good world and that depends on you, but if you'll ever reach a critical mass of visitors depends on a lot of factors.
rigid crescent
It's hard to keep up w8th is all.
Murder is literally just a gmod thing
And it's pretty big right now and lots of fun
cerulean dust
Murder is a really good map, But it would be even better without the realtime lights.
vocal shard
but everyone talks about them
guess you just have to make something that capitalizes on some outside popular thing
like popular anime locations or gmod things
maybe a surf map from csgo will be the next big vrchat thing
Who knows...
so original content is fucked
unless you promote
Yee
a catch 22 eh
you gotta get the world popular if you want it to be so but you have to act like a twitch camgirl to do it
and most vrchat servers have a "no promotion" rule
Nostalgia ⟩ Original and Fresh idea... For many people tbh.. They want familiar and close to home, not giving more effort...
thick flare
you can promote it on reddit
vocal shard
reddit?
thick flare
:>
rigid crescent
You're impossible
vocal shard
Hey, you are saying I'm impossible too with that statement
rigid crescent
You project too hard and literally only expect and default to bad.
vocal shard
if you want to get noticed on reddit you need a screenshot with a group of people in your world taken in vr
thick flare
you just need a clickbait title
vocal shard
same goes for well, everywhere
rigid crescent
Can you tell me the difference between a screenshot taken in vr vs desktop
vocal shard
One feels more natural*?*
maybe because desktop screenshots look generic as fuck to me?
i dont like them?
rigid crescent
Make a good world. If its good people will like it.
thick flare
yeah
vocal shard
have to move the mouse all over the place to get a decent photo
rigid crescent
That's all you said you need to do, it's wrong, but still.
vocal shard
i will
thick flare
and if your want to promote it, put it in your name is the easiest way
rigid crescent
If it's that easy everyone can do it.
thick flare
it is ok, tell me about it and i will afk/sleep in it
vocal shard
it should be, in an ideal vrchat world
thick flare
so it should be 1 at least
rigid crescent
Oh so now it's different lol come on
rigid crescent
Projection, insecurities
rigid crescent
I know you can't help it but they're not platforms to support your argument.
vocal shard
neither of you 2 notices that you are back to the you're wrong argument..
if everyone's going to assume if i can do something or not
rigid crescent
I have a basis besides feelings, that's the difference.
vocal shard
im going to assume if theyll do something or not
rigid crescent
Rin's basis of the argument is their feelings, which are very apparent by reading all these posts.
vocal shard
@rigid crescent ok iron-man...
rigid crescent
Nothing wrong with fedlings also iron man has a guy inside the suit lol
vocal shard
you cant really just always "oh im talking to the wrong people"
rigid crescent
But they're not the sole platform to base an argument
cerulean dust
T minus 60 seconds to the chat being Ruuubiked.
rigid crescent
Honestly, with how your personality seems to be, maybe not
rigid crescent
I'm not saying you're bad as a person, but you let your fedling s and projections control a lot
vocal shard
if everyone always jumps to conclusions over how i am and how i behave around them is it my fault or theirs
who is projecting in that situation
Huh, Writes down new ways to better himself
subtle prawn
.
opaque hawk
The quality of a world doesn’t mean it will be popular. Though it does help.
vocal shard
I think the conversation ended... 🇫
opaque hawk
welp
sterile drift
Oof
rigid crescent
My bad was at the atm
vocal shard
Soo... New conversation*?*
rigid crescent
It depends on the situation and context.
vocal shard
ight
lemme just change people
trial and error
Nuuu, don't 😭
why not i mean
Then who would be my doppelganger
if i cant better myself
if my personality is just that shit
rigid crescent
With strangers, no, it's their fault 100%. With people you know then its more complex
vocal shard
why stay with people who arent inclined to talk to people who are like me
Oh wait... That means my personality is also shit to a select people (not all)...
at the moment im just shoehorning myself into conversations
making new friends is harder than you think
when everyone always upholds you to some standard you dont know
rigid crescent
For some people yeah
But some of this seems a bit uhm...fabricated? Not intentionally.
rigid crescent
Like what standard are complete and total strangers holding you up to
vocal shard
i dunno
💥 redemption arc incoming
you use an anime avatar so youre ok with erp in a public world?
rigid crescent
And why have I never had that happen or heard of that happening until you? Like if you're "well known" then of course there will be done standard.
vocal shard
youre a girl so you definately like guys until you state you dont and three to four people just walk away
thick flare
thats a weird example
i use anime avatar all the time, rarely have these shits happen to me
rigid crescent
I've never had someone say "hey bro you got an anime avatar you must be down to smash, wanna hit up a private" lol
vocal shard
I mean, I've heard stories that there were formed straight couples in gay bars... So that is a weird example...
rigid crescent
Or seen it
vocal shard
it happens more when you dont have a generic guy voice
thick flare
that could be it
vocal shard
i swear some people are like "voice changer or e-girl down to smash"
thick flare
i sounds like a bear
rigid crescent
Yeah that happens. Girls and people who sound like them have a lot of trouble in games especially this one.
vocal shard
Idk what I sound like... Probably like a fake English-teen..
and its kinda made me less ambitious to meet new people because
rigid crescent
People are idiots when it comes to the "voice changer" thing though. There's very, very, very few good voice changed a and most people using them aren't willing to drop the money.
thick flare
then be a mute
rigid crescent
No, that shouldn't be the solution. I mean it's an option
thick flare
it is one of the solution
vocal shard
i sound like a very young american teen pretending to be wolvarine according to one of my friends
thick flare
i have people complaining about my bear voice inside an anime skin
vocal shard
i just wish it werent so wild in publics
thick flare
so i choose to remain as a mute most of the time
vocal shard
like
you sound remotely female sex me now
Rusky voice with an American accent...
at least the orgies in the hub have stopped
which is an improvement
vocal shard
They are now mostly in private world's...
well
now at least i cant run into someone giving barney the dinosaur a good time
Is that bad?
not really
thick flare
it is ok, i fapped to yoshi
vocal shard
if you want it then no
if its unsolicited
probably yes
Wait... Now that Teito brought up Yoshi... Would Yoshi-ette be a Momma with baby bearing thighs 🤔 because Yoshi's are lizards that constantly lay eggs after consumption...
thick flare
don't think about it
vocal shard
BUT WHAT IF I WANT TOO???
oh what
👀
Plus, because its a common fact that Yoshi's lay eggs, they are only Females that reproduce A-sexually...
this is a strange topic
rapid heath
rigid crescent
Canonicslly yoshi is a boy though. It could be a species where the male can lay eggs
They're not bound by the same biological stuff as the real world
vocal shard
So... A Namekian*?*
rigid crescent
Oh, yes actually
vocal shard
Please tell me you got the reference
rigid crescent
Besides the dragon ball one?
vocal shard
No...
Lel sometime i'm trusted user and sometimes i'm a user reeee
But Namekians are called self-producing Hermaphrodites 🤔
Because their off-spring is technically a half-clone
rigid crescent
RIP
vocal shard
Dragon Namekians can produce Dragon Namekians, Fighter Namekians can produce Fighter Namekians, Dragon-Fighter Namekians can produce actual Dragon looking Namekian mofos @rigid crescent
"Windows cannot display the security options at the moment, if your device is still unresponsive ALT+F4 to exit program or turn off your device using the power button"
alt ctrl delete unresponsive
rigid crescent
Wow you ultra crashed
vocal shard
You full-on got reset'ed
i often get the black screen of death in vrc maps where there is a video player
looking at you youtubedownloader_dl
@rigid crescent so... Some Namekians just choose not to reproduce, because it can drain their lifetime and it can lower their power...
did they remove that process from task manager yet?
vocal shard
oh my god please
that process fucking replicates on lower-end systems
one process goes unresponsive so vrc just boots up a second one, and that also goes unresponsive
it keeps going until vrchat.exe stops working or crashes
i remember once going up to 16 of them before my vrchat.exe started completely "not responding"
it blackscreens before that, momentarily going from "not responding" to normal
river thunder
vocal shard
False Stabs
tacit plank
I don't think that's how it works
It seems to just open one process for each song in the map
bold apex
Hi
wicked spire
subtle prawn
Friday the not 13th 🦐
fair yew
We were so close
opaque hawk
Getting stabbed in the back in vr. What is this Shakespeare VR?
sterile drift
I just want like
Someone making a Pill in the style of like the Peachette meme or something.
Now that you say Pillette.
vocal shard
I bet someone might be making one, is going to make one or made and didn't make it public..
cerulean dust
Knukette avatar when?
ruby needle
why
median basalt
Yeah, I saw multiple people with one
cerulean dust
Oh nice.
sterile drift
The actual Ugandan queen was made an avatar because of the Super Crown meme.
When it gets to that point you already know the meme has gone too far.
cerulean dust
The actual Queen? I thought the country was a democracy.
Unless, you're talking about the meme 'queen'.
true sky
guess someones world got declined and now they are posting a sentence and advert in the make world public submission
🤔
not sure what to do with that?
rigid crescent
what
rigid crescent
"Lewd textures/geometry on models. Additionally: Low effort world. Avatars have a huge amount of materials, very unoptimized. Please atlas before exporting for use in VRChat." nut
true sky
nop
vocal shard
wow
true sky
the waiting one
vocal shard
all those rejections
vocal shard
ebcause models have too many materials
fucking finally
they force world avatar to be atlased
also if they ever add a limit to dynamic bone
40 is a number that will appear a lot
rigid crescent
"Avatar has a huge amount of dynamic bones. Do not over-use dynamic bones. Please limit total affected transforms to 40."
the reckoning is upon us
i have yet to atlas, but don't you lose some customizability when you do that?
vocal shard
yes and not
rigid crescent
"Polka-dot shader is exceedingly disorienting in VR." ayy lmao to whoever said they don't go to worlds in vr
true sky
i guess they are cracking down on unoptimized avatars in public worlds
vocal shard
having less than 10 material is really good
opaque remnant
it's not like you have to atlas it all into one texture
vocal shard
most mmd avatar have 30 to 50 materials
opaque remnant
you can do multiple ones
rigid crescent
what's a "good" amount to go for? I know I have too many, but I'm working on lowering it since I know a few that don't have anything special on them
true sky
@vocal shard can weed them down in blender to usually 1 material per texture which would range 8-12
vocal shard
4-6 mats max
rigid crescent
oh then I'll be fine, I've got some separate ones I know I can merge but im already at like 8
vocal shard
anything more is kinda lame
opaque remnant
keeping it below 10 should allow you to do everything you can think of, but i usually have mine at 2-5 since i don't need more. transparency/fade needs a separate in any case
rigid crescent
yeah, i get some people probably want excessive stuff on theirs, but I consider mine afairly "normal" avatar
vocal shard
also please always join to one mesh
opaque remnant
can't do that if you want cloth
true sky
^^^
rigid crescent
yeah I am, but I don't use cloth either
vocal shard
sure, but as much as possible
rigid crescent
not having excessive meshes is what im guessing you mean
true sky
2 meshes should be alright if 1 is used for cloth
vocal shard
if you plan to use the same shader for different part of your model, then those part should be atlased
if there's no reason for it it's just ruining the game
since they will use the same shader anyway
rigid crescent
yeah, t hat's what I'll do
nails, eyes, and hair can all be atlased since they use the same one
stuff like that
vocal shard
yep
rigid crescent
is there any quality loss in textures? I know how to do it, but mainly just laziness has stopped me
vocal shard
that depend on the atlas size
unity will not go upper than 2k textures
but you can specify that you want to go higher, like 4k or 8k
median basalt
It will if you change import size
Yeah
Atlasing is lossless
I aim for less than 5 materials
If materials use the same shader, not combining them is a waste
vocal shard
btw rokk, you saw all those rejections of worlds because models aren't atlased ?
median basalt
Yes
vocal shard
feels good man
rigid crescent
yeah imagine how many there are that are already approved
vocal shard
apparently dyn bone will get limited to 40 bone max
rigid crescent
maybe they'll take a look at the bigegr ones
median basalt
Nice, 40 is a good maximum for dynamic bone IMO
Maybe people will start merging their bones now
Still though, lots of worlds still go public with a "please atlas" message
So there's a lot of unoptimized BS out there
rigid crescent
I'd love to see them go back and hit up some other big avatar worlds, but I guess they will whenever they resubmit for an update
true sky
unless they use private ones, they may not shrink dynamic bone usage 
median basalt
Yeah, but public avatars should be held to a higher standard either way
true sky
did you press the nice show as user button
vocal shard
also rokk
true sky
fringe glade
No, it's not even there anymore.
true sky
oh
vocal shard
if you have private pedestal in a public world, they will reject the world
rigid crescent
if you wanna show your avatar off in a public, put them in the world as a statue or something
median basalt
That's usually a mistake
rigid crescent
or a little waving "npc"
rigid crescent
at least its an easy fix
fringe glade
@rigid crescent actually does not answer my question, i'm fine about having a lil balance
But a balance that make me loose litteraly every ranks
Big fucking yikes
900 hours active on the account btw<
rigid crescent
how does it not? you asked why and that's why
fringe glade
Not desktop btw
rigid crescent
lol
fringe glade
That's simply pure bs ?
true sky
1487 active hours and in desktop mode
median basalt
Desktop/VR has nothing to do with it
true sky
havent seen the rank change since veteran was removed
median basalt
I'm still trusted apparently
I've heard of people's ranks changing but jumping from trusted to user seems extreme.
Especially for someone like Niyah.
rigid crescent
yeah it happened to someone else earlier today
maybe they removed some weight from friends like they should've done before it went live lol
holy shit my home world jumped up 30mb
rigid crescent
no not the amount, but how much them being Trusted matters
i don't have many either, and i prune a lot on top of that
fringe glade
Oh, well
Idk tbh
Kinda make me just want to stop. I wasn't happy about that since i just like to go around and play some animations'n'shit
rigid crescent
lol
fringe glade
But if the people can't even see my shaders / particles by using the default settings
I'll just yeet myself
rigid crescent
still trusted phew
later, be sure to let your friends know you're quitting so they don't worry
median basalt
Don't say that too close to mic, you'll be considered an attention whore for caring about avatars or avatar development at all
fringe glade
I meaaaaaaaan
rigid crescent
basically
true sky
has anyone been in a world and people saying your avatar looks ugly when they turned shaders off on their end
rigid crescent
you saved me the trouble of typing it
fringe glade
They could actually focus on real problems instead of that bs
fringe glade
They never since i was trusted
fringe glade
No it did not and i can show you 300 proofs that it did not but hey.
median basalt
Yeah, I've heard remarks about my shaders. Not my problem.
rigid crescent
ok
median basalt
"There's a purple capsule around you, fix it"
rigid crescent
Gotta hit em with that obligatory
'If people that aren't your friends want to see your avatar they'll choose to.' copy pasta
median basalt
Why should I bother
rigid crescent
you shouldn't. it's their choice not to see it and your choice to leave it that way. all about that spicy choice m8
true sky
why i started relying on standard shader a bit more
cant have people complain if its already standard shader
still lark
Last Login has been added to the API. 🤔
true sky
median basalt
Unless they've never been given a choice to begin with
true sky
the shader whitelist was a good idea in beta until it was removed
median basalt
The current shader fallback is worse than the whitelist IMO
rigid crescent
yeah, I think they removed it so they wouldn't have to depend on the shader creator
median basalt
The shader fallback has the potential to be better
rigid crescent
not that they needed permission afaik
median basalt
But there's almost no control over it and it doesn't even seem to work half the time
It would be nice if we could specify a fallback material ourselves
The fallback material would have to use Standard or one of their own internal fallback shaders
median basalt
Not really
rigid crescent
could it be done like the particle limiter where you can just choose to mess with it if you want and add it to your game folder?
fringe glade
I would like if we could upvote shit to get added in the whitelist and it will actually be added, and not in 6 months.
median basalt
They should distribute the internal shaders with the SDK, or shadow copies of the shaders that only have placeholder code
Then you can just make fallback materials and assign them somewhere
vocal shard
i have a model where i use the same shader on all the material
median basalt
Add some sort of new VRC component to Body
vocal shard
if you disable shaders, it will fall back to a proper toon shader
except the eyes
only difference with the rest is that i used the emission
🤷
true sky
emission will work almost the same as toon shader, but the downside is no outline
rigid crescent
ehh, voting for shaders seems like it could be messy
vocal shard
i know legoman, but literally every single part of my model will revert to a basic toon sahder but the eyes will revert to a shit standard and look like giant plastic balls
tranquil basin
Went from trusted user purple boi to a known user? Nani
rigid crescent
tranquil basin
@rigid crescent nah I went down not up and the article is out of date
rigid crescent
it's in bold text my dude
it's not even out of date lol
This means that you may see your Trust Rank shift as we adjust these calculations.
fringe glade
@tranquil basin from trusted to user
Feel happy buddy
Nice system btw
If people knew how to use the new system and actually block your avatar or sound instead of just blocking you completely when you're doing an animation tho
Apes
mighty galleon
<.< >.>
tranquil basin
Very confusion
tranquil terrace
Any work arounds for timing out and not responding errors on new world load?
south mist
cats doesnt detect head bone when its literally called head
it keeps deleting the head bone
nova storm
I have nearly a 1000 hours in the game and I'm a known user not a trusted one feelsbadman
south mist
No, its weighted
Also i tried to disable removing of weightless bones and it still gets deleted
sterile drift
What's this weird issue that's been popping up with people being bumped down from their trust levels? I haven't gotten bumped down but a few people I know have been bumped down.
vocal shard
🤷
mighty galleon
Hi rin
mighty galleon
When I get home I need show you something
mighty galleon
Ouch..
vocal shard
ping me on it
mighty galleon
Next time then
vocal shard
so i can see it tomorrow
mighty galleon
Ok
mighty galleon
Bc you threatened to leave it alone
vocal shard
aaand it froze again
mighty galleon
Oh
vocal shard
look away from the unity
itll behave
hah, it worked and am updating
look at me, such an epic gamer
mighty galleon
Yes you are
vocal shard
also
what are the requirements for becoming trusted?
i have other nsfw checked all the time
nobody knows
mighty galleon
Lol
vocal shard
its hidden so they can jump you in the dark
mighty galleon
You dirty dog