#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 576

gloomy valve Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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its the one that lays a flat color but has a scrolling geometry that changes to a lighter color

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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i just need a wing flap

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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used to work before they took away legacy\

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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@thick flare for what ?

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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reset world object

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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?

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rokk made a prefab out of that

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world objects

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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and turn off the animation with a gesture

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!

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:00 PM

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it make them return to a place

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yeah

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he used my old method and made it with animators

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this is for world objects https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyqwkrxevr5utcy/WorldObjects.unitypackage?dl=0

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rokk did a blink one too

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 7:01 PM

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any key word for that?

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ohhh

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thanks

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:01 PM

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but i dont know jack shit about using it

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anyone got a written tutorial

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youtube is horrible

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this is "toggle prop" https://www.dropbox.com/s/mlcr7c3s0vrn4ip/Kuro_Toggle_Non_Legacy_Oct_2018_with_instructions.7z?dl=0

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made by kuro

rigid crescent Oct 5, 2018, 7:02 PM

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You could just up something simple if you're using mmd

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 7:02 PM

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okay anyone wanna vrchat in like 20?

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 7:02 PM

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minutes?

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 7:02 PM

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yeh

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or 10 minutes

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:04 PM

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?

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i dont want a toggle prop though

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like a tail wag animation

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or are these not back from the legacy graveyard?

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check the video in #animation

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if you used legacy animation you can easily use animators

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...just said i didnt want youtube videos but 🤷

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it better not be thirty minutes of drawl

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it's literally the only video explaining it

versed cape Oct 5, 2018, 7:07 PM

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if you're trying to have something constantly moving like a tail wag you should animate it in blender

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:07 PM

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?

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why ?

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it works just as fine in unity

versed cape Oct 5, 2018, 7:08 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZC8i7nq32k

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:08 PM

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but video tutorials are disgustingly imperfect

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so you gave me a video ?

versed cape Oct 5, 2018, 7:09 PM

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https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro/Basic_Animation/Keyframing_Introduction

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:09 PM

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i can do the same thing in unity tho ?

versed cape Oct 5, 2018, 7:09 PM

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https://www.pluralsight.com/blog/tutorials/basics-of-blender-animation-tools

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:10 PM

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they abuse bandwidth and are dispropotionally large for tutorials

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as well as having an extreme chance of being outdated without any way to update

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i still dont understand your point solius

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you can do the exact same in unity

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you usually have to sit through drawl and mouse crawling across the screen before something actually happens
not to mention when the person takes 10 minutes to preform a task that can be done in 1

versed cape Oct 5, 2018, 7:11 PM

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and because animations created in blender are executed on the mesh level whereas in unity you're animating properties

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If you want to create character animations for specific movements that pertain to your character, do them in Blender. If you want to create animations that affect Unity-specific variables, then use the Unity Animator.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:11 PM

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ah crap

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and how do you transfer those animation in unity?

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this means i need to redo dynamic bones and emission maps again

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thats easy svel

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you export them with the fbx

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and you will have an animation file with it

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no

then you go to animations in model

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they are attached to it

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do not come as a seperate file but you can control + d

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just rename it

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yeah

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but at the end of the whole process

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you will have an animation file

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yes

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so from what i understand

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i know all this

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just dont know how the fuck to touch an animator

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there are stuff in that animation file that can't be done in unity then

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these things are so badly designed its a nightmare

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no

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you literally duplicate the file

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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@vocal shard if you want a tail wag on an animator, just

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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and it works

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Put an animator on the first tail bone

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Make new animation with tail selected

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Done

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Or modify an existing one and change the paths with F2

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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YES NOW HOW DO I KEEP IT GOING

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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Tick "loop time"

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???

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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make the animation file loop

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literally nobody talks about this

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

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On the animation

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Yeah because it's animation 101

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You might want to try some regular Animator tutorials on Unity

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You just tick loop on the animation file in assets

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

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@versed cape i'm really sorry, i don't understand your point

hushed quiver Oct 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Hi, are there people ingame?

livid abyss Oct 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

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Someone knows good Horror maps in Vrc ß

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:15 PM

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if you transfer the animation from blender to unity, it doesnt matter where you made it at the end

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since the end result will be the same

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isnt loop time... checked by default though?

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you dont just say

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@hushed quiver according to the bot there are 7354 users online

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hey lets do this and this

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!online

floral flaxBOT Oct 5, 2018, 7:16 PM

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There are 7356 users in VRChat currently

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:16 PM

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@hushed quiver

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then walk away

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loop is unchecked by default

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meaning that the animation will play once and then stop

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great

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so i assume every user knows animation 101?

rigid crescent Oct 5, 2018, 7:17 PM

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~~no they watch video tutorials~~

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:17 PM

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when you click on the animation file you have like 3 checkboxes

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the first one being "loop"

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ugh

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i have the attention span of a goldfish video isnt the future

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ThroughFacePalm

vast tulip Oct 5, 2018, 7:18 PM

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@vocal shard do you have use of an emote inventory?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:18 PM

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a what?

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you mean the emote overrides or some legacy thing that broke

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you know what

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ill go weightpaint my skirt to my legs

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and maybe someone will have input on a different topic then

hushed quiver Oct 5, 2018, 7:20 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Oct 5, 2018, 7:20 PM

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There are 7314 users in VRChat currently

vast tulip Oct 5, 2018, 7:22 PM

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@vocal shard xiexe made a script to generate an inventory that lets you use your emote menu to turn game objects in and off, using animators

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 7:23 PM

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that would be nice if i wanted items

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but i really dont, thanks anyway

hushed quiver Oct 5, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Yup, ok thx, but i'm looking for people to join.

viral yacht Oct 5, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Just join a public world with people in it

hushed quiver Oct 5, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Yeah yeah..

steep turret Oct 5, 2018, 7:34 PM

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👀

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 7:41 PM

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wouldn’t this also let you turn face gestures on and off 🤔

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:41 PM

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Yes, but only if you bury your Body mesh deeper in the hierarchy

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Which will break the prefab unfortunately

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Unless you just leave your regular one disabled

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 7:42 PM

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ah darn

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 7:42 PM

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Not really darn, just takes more effort

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 7:43 PM

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I def will check it out though. I’ve messed with animations a bit. Literally read the backlog and had a eureka moment.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Howdy

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:18 PM

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omg i love this new update

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i litteraly kicked myself

signal thunder Oct 5, 2018, 8:18 PM

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nice

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:19 PM

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you could always kick yourself

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:19 PM

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i can play god

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:19 PM

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-pats- oh but if thou playeth god, you shal be stabbed in thine back

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:20 PM

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im bored

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:20 PM

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same

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so whats up little xins

twin vessel Oct 5, 2018, 8:22 PM

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E

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:22 PM

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ok

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:23 PM

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hmm?

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:33 PM

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I will never uderstand why am I green with 600 hours and made over 20 avatars

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Amazing vrchat system

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:34 PM

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why does it bother you so much though?

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:35 PM

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i will die of boredom

rough flax Oct 5, 2018, 8:37 PM

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@hardy crystal there's more than just hours... do you interact with the core vrchat community? Do you interact with the vrchat team?

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:38 PM

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That is definitely strange, the system is imperfect @hardy crystal

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:38 PM

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someone save me from boredom

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:38 PM

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@olive mulch go watch tier zoo

rough flax Oct 5, 2018, 8:38 PM

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I've figured it out partly, maybe even mostly on how the system dictates how a user levels up to being trusted rank.

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 8:38 PM

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@opaque hawk hey hey hey, dont use up all the sarcasm for this chat in one go 😠

rough flax Oct 5, 2018, 8:39 PM

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@covert chasm can I get legendary tag on discord? angry2

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Dont mention the poor fella GWtogaTheSaddest

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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@rough flax Why would I interact with the VRChat team what do I have to talk with them about exactly? And of course with 600 hours I would have a lot of friends I don't just AFK

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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@olive mulch go draw something or read manga?

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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The system IS imperfect though

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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i dont draw nor read manga

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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hmm

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play games?

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:40 PM

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im trying

mighty galleon Oct 5, 2018, 8:41 PM

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what games cha got?

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 8:41 PM

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but none of my friends are on vrchat

rough flax Oct 5, 2018, 8:41 PM

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How can the vrchat team trust you if they've never seen you or talked to you? Trusted tag means more than just a lot of people having you added and lots of playtime.

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:41 PM

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How would I even find them

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What

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In all my 600 hours I've never seen a VRChat team member playing

rough flax Oct 5, 2018, 8:42 PM

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At this point, it's kinda hard to find them just going to random lobbies. You'll have to join community events to find them.

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:43 PM

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I ran into Tupper at the Pug Once

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:43 PM

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Do you understand how ridiculous that sounds @rough flax

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I can just see that

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Let me just World hop until I find a vrchat team members so I can "try" to be trusted near him

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 8:45 PM

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@🇹 🇺 🇵 🇵 🇪 🇷

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:45 PM

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Like not only the chance of finding a vrchat team member is so low

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But the chance after that for him to "trust" you is probably even lower

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Why is running into the Devs in game important?

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:46 PM

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@rough flax Claims you need to to be trusted

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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he claims bullshit lmao

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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That's what I'm saying

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Ye does

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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just because you talk with a team member doesnt mean you will get trusted

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that's not how it work

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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How does it work then?

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Mr.Trusted user genius

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:48 PM

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So like, the system is imperfect, just play the game, be kind to others, do what you do.

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Yeah and 600 hours are not enough

light saddle Oct 5, 2018, 8:49 PM

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Hmm a debate continue

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:49 PM

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it's not time based

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:49 PM

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And having made avatars

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Is not enough

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And friends

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Oh never getting banned

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:49 PM

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there is a blog post that explain what doesnt give you trust points

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Link

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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and that's literally all we know about it

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rest is pure guess work

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based on nothing

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Link

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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check announcement

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should be there

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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📎 Masthead_Link.png

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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Perfect

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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that's zeldo 🙄

whole lodge Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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I'm pretty sure it takes into account your interactions. So if people blocked you or mute you lol

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Tupper facepalm

light saddle Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Lol

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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rukio, we dont know about it

whole lodge Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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I know

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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and even if it does, it's probably almost irrelevant in the end

whole lodge Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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I was just adding to you

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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since you could just grab some groups and mass kick/report someone

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the blog say that uploading a lot of low quality worlds doesnt work

whole lodge Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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That's an extreme

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Basically

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The system doesn't work

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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which is a little hint to what actually matters with worlds

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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They jsut gave away trusted to random users

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That's what I'm getting out of it

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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why doesnt it work ?

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:52 PM

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... no? 🤔

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:53 PM

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the system works, that's why only a handful complain about it, otherwise everybody would be mad

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i got demoted from trusted to known in one day without me even playing the game, so the system is still getting adjusted

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it's still in beta btw

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as said in the menu UI

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:53 PM

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No? Then why people with 200-300 hours get trusted user when I have 600 hours and been playing since December 2017 made friends, avatars, explored worlds

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:53 PM

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If you have something to complain about make a canny post

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I even created a support ticket about it

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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i've been playing almost everyday since july 2017 and i'm known user

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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And they said "Nothing to do about it, that's how it works"

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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i'm not complaining

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i dont see the problem

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just play and you will get trusted one day

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Because the system works in a way that is intentionally undocumented, it is still being tuned, and details about how it works will never be released aside from some obvious things we sometimes tell people.

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I quite like the system, still needs refinement though as there are some with trusted that breach rules etc but Beta is Beta for a reason

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:54 PM

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Are you saying that you still shift ranks around?

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might*

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:55 PM

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Read the blogs, they'll answer your questions 😃

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:55 PM

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They always "might"

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In this case they already said it would be fine-tuned

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:55 PM

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if you want to make to system work better, report abuse and make cool stuff and just be nice

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:55 PM

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or read this, this is the most up to date version https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.3.2/docs/vrchat-safety-and-trust-system

VRChat Safety and Trust System

The VRChat Trust and Safety system is a new extension of the currently-implemented VRChat Trust system. It is designed to keep users safe from nuisance users using things like screen-space shaders, loud sounds or microphones, visually noisy or malicious particle effects, and ...

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:56 PM

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also why does it matter what rank you are ? it's just a color

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:56 PM

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I personally don't know how it works (I've kept myself in the dark intentionally) but from what I've seen, just play/use VRChat. It doesn't matter when interacting with your friends anyways because you're always going to see stuff on them and vice versa. on top of that if you want to show stuff off to someone in particular, just ask them to unhide your avatar. Takes a few seconds at worst

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Still not happy about the shader fallback

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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In the end, the settings are decided-upon by the user, and just like you don't get to tell someone in an FPS what FOV to use or what resolution to use, you don't get to say what components users have enabled/disabled

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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I have one model where people with blocked shaders simply see a purple capsule

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THANOS CAPSULE

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Okay just to be honest I'm actually relived that @covert chasm Took my comments into account and replied.

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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I haven't had any issues with shader fallback since I use standard and standard(specular) most of the time anyway

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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Default filter is also not very good honestly

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:57 PM

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@median basalt https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.3.2/docs/shader-fallback-system

Shader Blocking System

This page serves as a description of the Shader Blocking System, how it operates, and how shader authors can work with it so that their shader falls back gracefully when a user has Shaders blocked on an avatar using a given shader. When a shader is blocked by the Safety Syst...

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should give you enough info

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Yeah I know about that at least

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But I still haven't figured out how to make this shader simply fall back to "literally do nothing"

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Just gotta wait for Reddit leaks about the new system

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Tell it to fall back to transparent, probably

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 8:58 PM

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i see most of the models of the white user have default shader

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isn't cubed suppose to be whitelisted?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:59 PM

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not really

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:59 PM

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No, they did away with the whitelist

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Not sure why

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 8:59 PM

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Oh this reminds me, I should mark my avatar pedestals if their shaders fallback gracefully or not

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 8:59 PM

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they removed shader specific white list

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it's only by certain keywords now

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 8:59 PM

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But right now they simply fall back to unity's default shaders or a built-in mockery of a "toon" shader

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People assume it's compile times

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:00 PM

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fallback isn't intended to be a perfect recreation of any given shader, it is intended to be a "good enough" standardized version

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:00 PM

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I don't think they want to deal with including third party code in their builds even if it's just shaders

hardy crystal Oct 5, 2018, 9:00 PM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/trust-and-safety-system/p/visitor-new-user-user-and-nuisance

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:00 PM

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Also, is Nuisance even in use?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:00 PM

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there is no compile times in vrchat ... it has precompiled shader objects

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only a last driver specific compilation

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i'm yet to see a nuisance user

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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anyone wanting to play or nah?

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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There are 7092 users in VRChat currently

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Pretty sure there are plenty of people for you to meet right now

olive mulch Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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idk

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Instance list is still a little buggy for some reason

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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higher than normal for this time of day, prob because VRChat was on a very popular japanese morning talk show today smugnep

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:01 PM

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I can only see 4 pug instances at any point

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Oh right, VRC is gaining popularity in Japan.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:02 PM

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ohhhhh

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:02 PM

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I bet they could skyrocket themselves up even further by supporting the VRM model format.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:02 PM

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that's why VRPill was in some japanese tweets

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:02 PM

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For which Unity support already exists

raven silo Oct 5, 2018, 9:03 PM

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vrpill know how to speak japanese

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 9:03 PM

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rokk's prefab saved my day

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thanks for the awesome prefab

raven silo Oct 5, 2018, 9:04 PM

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@vocal shard he vist japan alot plus talk to japanese in vrchat

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:04 PM

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oh that's why

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:04 PM

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I've been going through some random avatar worlds and viewing their material count in editor... Most/all avatars have 15+ materials 😐

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color me disappointed

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Yepp

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Deny them for being badly made 👏

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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I always put great care in mine

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Like just pull them :^) ezpz

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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I think the world review team is cracking down a lil bit on the avatar worlds

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wouldn't be surprised for them to get tired of badly optimized avatars

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or ones with huge amounts of dynamic bones

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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Speaking of which, my lag-free doofenshmirtz got rejected because the world and avatar were supposedly "not lagfree". The avatar is literally one material, 400 polys, and no dynamic bones. How much more "lag-free" than that can you get?

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:05 PM

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you know throwing up an warning msg within the sdk might help

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GWnanamiTakagiSmug

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:06 PM

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@median basalt I think they're also cracking down on the use of that term from looking at the previous few days of reviews

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Yeah, when I just started out I thought I was optimized because my models were only 5000 polygons. Turns out they were 112 meshes, SDK never warned me

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@covert chasm right, but the world and avatar are lag-free. I know I made the world mostly as a joke, but I legit made the entire world a single mesh and 2 materials. Even the avatar pedestal model is grafted into the floor itself.

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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i mean, i'm not doing reviews, but it isn't lag free

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Frankly, with 1 material and 400 polys, there's not much more to optimize.

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Think I've only ever used 15+ materials in a world

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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nothing is lag free

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the closest you can get is TCL's "blue" world

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:07 PM

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lol I’m updating a lot of my avatars. Tupper you are going to know exactly when I figured out atlases

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Yeah, but then what you're really doing is just rejecting all lag-free worlds right off the bat. Which would be fine, but then at least say so. Additionally, there are laggier worlds that call themselves lagfree and still go through, it all depends on who your reviewer for the day is.

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:08 PM

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dunno, i'll chat with them about it

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if i was them i'd just deny any world going forward using the term

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Just ban usage of the term lagfree yeah

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But I think that's what they're already doing

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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fucking finally

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Can't really do much better than an avatar with literally 1 draw call

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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they also need to check avatar worlds more closely

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Ban all the stupid terms GWnanamiRankoPog !

modern sand Oct 5, 2018, 9:09 PM

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@median basalt Does that need to be a public world though

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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It probably doesn't.

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I don't think we need more lag free worlds plenty of them out there 🤷

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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seeing a world with 60 avatars that are the same but with just a color change is really annoying

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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My “lag free box” avatar will no longer be relevant. I’m okay with that

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I made it as a joke, but it seems this is also confirmation that the term "lag-free" is banned altogether.

raven silo Oct 5, 2018, 9:10 PM

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@vocal shard give people choice

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lol

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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that's fine

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Having lagg free avatars is better then lagg free worlds anyway 👏

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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^

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Can I make a "kind of laggy" world?

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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tanabae

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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but when they all have 20+ materials it's kinda a big no-no

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Its strange to me anyways-- worlds are essentially never the source of frame lag

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except in extreme cases

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Pug

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Less lag avatars for days please

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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People complain about the Pug being laggy but it is one of the best optimized worlds in VRChat

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Well worlds do cause problems when the lights are scuffed

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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I've seen plenty of worlds that were pretty laggy

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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cool meme avatars [lag free]

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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@covert chasm the Pug has 5 different mixed lights in entirely unnecessary places

raven silo Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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remove al dyamic bone

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Used to be

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:11 PM

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That's not "best optimized" IMO

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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make a cube avatar

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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pug is one of the map that i lag for no reason tho

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Pug frame time is less than 1ms in most cases, highest I've gotten it is around 1.7ms

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which is low

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Is the pug optimized? Is it just the player count lagging it then? I haven't been in an empty one before

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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very low

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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instead of lag free, can i give people free lag?

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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PUG has really strange lighting, some places specular works and others it doesn't

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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The problem is that the lights add more passes to avatars, which makes it seem like the avatars are the issue.

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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I didn't have this much problem before 5 months ago

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in Pug

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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It's an easy thing to blame but it's not true

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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People go into the pug with less optimized avatars than the pug itself

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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How do you see that, btw? I want better debugging than Unity's profiler

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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editor, you can't access it unfortunately

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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If avatars are the issue, maybe the SDK should start yelling at us for having too many materials

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2018, 9:12 PM

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I mildly disagree on the pug, I get cpu spikes that prevent a solid 90s.

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Aww

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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And dynamic bone

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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and fucking meshes

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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It's probably garbage collection

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Otherwise I would get 90fps in there on a vive pro.

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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more than 4-5 mats on public avatars is ridiculous

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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SDK changes are something I personally want to do, but it has to fit into the dev pipeline

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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I recently went back and atlased an old public avatar of mine that was like 20 materials

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Got it down to 1 easy

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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what would you change, Tupper ?

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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I made my textures instanciated, now I have like 200 calls to "cleanup" every second causing small spikes

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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I think all the avatars in my world are very low on material count now

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Make a maximum requirement for mats in sdk, gets bypassed 🤷 People don't want to play with settings 🦐

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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@subtle prawn the SDK should at least set an example

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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they wouldn't be requirements. Never trust the SDK/client. warnings for >4 meshes, warnings for >8 materials

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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When I just started out, I uploaded something with 112 meshes. The SDK told me I was a-okay because it only had 5k polys

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Actually, people should also delete all old tutorials

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Warnings for dynamic bone too?

rough pulsar Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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plays an air horn if materials > 15

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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people will bypass it but people will still follow the rules seeing as how people ask how to get under 20k

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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yeah

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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warning for dyn bone yeah

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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I agree with that

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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in a perfect world I'd have a system like Safety, but with performance-- on "normal" mode, if you have more than 40 dynamic bones (not scripts, bones), it just disables all bones on your avatar for other users

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:14 PM

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I have pretty simple worlds, but I make sure they run so fast that vsync breaks and I get 110 FPS and frame stutter

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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and warn in the SDK too

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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@tidal aspen Its an big part about informing users instead of getting them to do it

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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No shadows, static objects, only simple colliders, mobile shaders

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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"If you upload this avatar with ${dynbones.count}, users on Normal Performance Mode won't see your dynamic bones!"

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social pressure 😃

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Most users still think its ALL about poly count and nothing else...

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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CATS should throw in warnings about bones like how they now do with materials

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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CATS does not know what you're doing with dynamic bones.

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:15 PM

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CATS cant see-- Damit too slow

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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dyn bones are added after. I can warn on large bonecount though

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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CATS is telling you about material now which is a really good thing

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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But Hotox is bae for a reason so

raven silo Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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there optimize for bone to in cats

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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just make it so everyone's nameplates show how optimized their avatar is by showing the material count and meshes xigSMUG

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Cats can't really detect which bones you're gonna use for dynamic bones

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But they can tell material count

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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lmao

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Yes, with the additions to shotariya's atlas, it should be even easier

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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The auto atlasing is better than ever

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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that thing is the best thing ever

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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And apparently people actually watch my manual atlas video which is nice

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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so fucking easy to use

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Only issue is that the auto atlas generates non-POT textures

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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I've gone back and redone much of my avatars

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Yeah I love the new auto atlas

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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i'm sharing your video when i can Rokk

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Thanks

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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The problem with the atlases that Shotariya's plugin generates is that they are often huge-- over 4k

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:17 PM

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Non-power of two textures are automatically converted to powers of two

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But this can sacrifice quality

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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if you force import to 2k or 4k that's fine, but you should also use crunch compression

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Doesn't Unity compres them to 2k anyway?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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it will always be more optimized than 20 materials tho

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Does the auto atlas work with normal, specular or metallic maps?

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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it defaults to 2k, but people can override it

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Yeah, the problem with the auto atlas is that if you are using a tiny part of a 2k texture, the entire 2K texture is stitched in. That's why I manually atlas.

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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my atlas is 4k, but I crunch compressed down to 1.3mb

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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TDA models have a 2k body texture for example. It covers the whole body but is often only used on the hands.

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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It will be better CPU wise, but maybe the same GPU wise?

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Unity reduces it on import anyway hopefully

tidal aspen Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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I don't think a lot of people would know that you can override them anyway

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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My atlases are basically always 4k and crunched.

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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because I waifu2x'd my face/eyes smugnep

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Lol

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:18 PM

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waifu2x is amazing

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Even works on porn

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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OMEGALUL

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Wat

subtle prawn Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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👀

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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👀

iron seal Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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vrpill 🍆

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Machine learning image scaling

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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ban

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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AUGH

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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no! it's perfect, I use it all the time on low res textures

modern sand Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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My general chat tanabae

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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EXCEL WTF

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Also why have i never known about this website :notlie

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:19 PM

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Spending 2 trillion CPU operations on scaling lewd waifu images

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Future

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:20 PM

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Ruuubicks, gotta add an function into VRCbot that just auto triggers an #general-media msg 👏 Ez

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Like have it post every 12h atleast

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:20 PM

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I tend to use waifu2x on the sleeves of almost every Reimu model I come across

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Since they often use the same low-ish quality sleeve stitching

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:21 PM

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Tupper you can't just write caps and not explain what excel did

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:22 PM

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the icons D:

📎 unknown.png

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they're so awful

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Wait what

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Nonono thats not allowed

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Thats illegal

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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oclac, i wanna test something

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does this message disappeared for you ?

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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The one before did-

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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instantly ?

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Pretty much selfbotto

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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okay, finally stopped being scuffed then

covert chasm Oct 5, 2018, 9:24 PM

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no, i just shoved it into pm2 and told it to relaunch instantly upon crash LUL

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discord.js has an unhandled interrupted connection state

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and doesn't get caught by client.on('error')

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:25 PM

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JS is evil

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Ow snap this months Humble bundle is already nice

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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is it unity related?

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:28 PM

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It’s the overwhelming positive bundle 2 right?

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Nono im talking about the monthly one

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It refreshed today

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Oh, I don’t pay attention to those

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Hollow knight, Hitman complete first season and 7days to die already

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:31 PM

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Neat, Hollow Knight is a must play

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Lol, I can't get the monthly

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You need a credit card, or paypal. But if you use paypal, you still need a credit card.

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Not in the US so my debit card isn't recognized

indigo fern Oct 5, 2018, 9:40 PM

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;-;

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:40 PM

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Doesn't matter that I have a ton of money to throw at them

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They don't want it because I don't have a plastic card

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 9:41 PM

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Rip

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:41 PM

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I think it's because you can chargeback with paypal

umbral reef Oct 5, 2018, 9:42 PM

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I dont have an credit card (just linked an Maestro card) and it worked aye owkay

tall storm Oct 5, 2018, 9:43 PM

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You can chargeback with any card.

tacit plank Oct 5, 2018, 9:46 PM

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Fair enough, dunno then

median basalt Oct 5, 2018, 9:46 PM

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I think they just want an additional way to succ your money if you don't unsubscribe manually

glossy wharf Oct 5, 2018, 10:04 PM

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Notice me tupper senpai

terse finch Oct 5, 2018, 10:09 PM

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tfw someone wonders why you're a known user and thought you'd be higher

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;;

glossy wharf Oct 5, 2018, 10:10 PM

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tfw someone actually cares about their rank WaitWhat

astral cliff Oct 5, 2018, 10:10 PM

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A number of people I know seemed confused about my rank but I'm not bothered by it since I'm rarely in the game and spend more time just making things

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 10:13 PM

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I toggle myself to green because if people ignore me if I’m green than they are probably to shallow to be my friend anyway

cerulean dust Oct 5, 2018, 10:14 PM

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^

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I only switch to trusted if i wanna show off my avatars with cool animations. Or while using knuckles variations of my personal model.

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 PM

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if i manage to rank up one day

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i will do that too

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clark kenting ftw

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 PM

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i just use the 0 safety preset and i don't care about anything else

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my experience with the game didnt change much

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 PM

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With that attitude I’m sure you will

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 PM

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i just see more and more people ignoring visitors and new users

queen mango Oct 5, 2018, 10:22 PM

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Looks like the system didn't work as it was intended to be...
Such is human nature.

cerulean dust Oct 5, 2018, 10:23 PM

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^ exactly, the tribal mentality of having a class system is hardwired in our DNA. I guess it's something we learn to unlearn as we grow more mature.

earnest ermine Oct 5, 2018, 10:24 PM

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I mostly just see new users talking to each other and trusted users running around as green boys or running around doing shenanigans as usual

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don't really see much change

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after 2k hours in the game I too am tired of socializing and just want to act stupid

thick flare Oct 5, 2018, 10:25 PM

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wouldn't it encourage more communication between new users?

earnest ermine Oct 5, 2018, 10:25 PM

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it seems to

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gray blue and green lads seem to stick together

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I'm pretty sure that's how it's always been though, it's just very noticable now

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 10:28 PM

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I went into the Pug last night with the intent of being silent yet animated. Two people who knew me saw me “hey link why aren’t you talking “

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frustrated sigh

modest halo Oct 5, 2018, 10:30 PM

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@covert chasm when will the broken necks on crouching be fixed

cerulean dust Oct 5, 2018, 10:30 PM

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Anyways, another topic. I haven't been crashed by anyone since the new update. But I encountered two malicious players who were able to get everyone's frames down to 1 or 2. It was so bad that I had to force close the game and restart.

glossy wharf Oct 5, 2018, 10:31 PM

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they are fixed

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you just have to reload your avatar when it pops up

modest halo Oct 5, 2018, 10:31 PM

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😂

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 10:32 PM

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I wouldn’t say that’s a fix, but good to know

queen mango Oct 5, 2018, 10:33 PM

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@cerulean dust That's even worse.

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Well, not as bad as a crasher totally freezing your entire computer, but it's still bad.

earnest ermine Oct 5, 2018, 10:34 PM

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I overheard two people in the pug say they've been using repeated blocking and unblocking of another user to lag them out instead

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but it takes a group of people doing it

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seems unreliable

glossy wharf Oct 5, 2018, 10:37 PM

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@opaque hawk its not the default state for the rig anymore

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so yes its a hotfix

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not a permanent fix

opaque hawk Oct 5, 2018, 10:38 PM

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The Devs will get there I’m sure

grave dagger Oct 5, 2018, 11:27 PM

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that 1 fps thing is bad since you have to manually quit out of the game which creates no crash logs...i t hink?

vocal shard Oct 5, 2018, 11:28 PM

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still leave a log behind that you use

grave dagger Oct 5, 2018, 11:28 PM

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oh

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good to know thanks

tardy plover Oct 6, 2018, 12:38 AM

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Does anyone have some cool .anims they wouldnt mind sharing? I'm looking to enhance my emotes

unkempt oak Oct 6, 2018, 12:38 AM

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my game is running on 1 fps

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and i've restarted it

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and still got the same problem

worldly viper Oct 6, 2018, 12:52 AM

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@white inlet

mellow quiver Oct 6, 2018, 1:09 AM

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@sacred patio

raw lagoon Oct 6, 2018, 1:26 AM

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how can i get in the beta

raven silo Oct 6, 2018, 1:28 AM

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there no beta

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till they #open-beta-info again

plucky acorn Oct 6, 2018, 1:37 AM

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is there any way to remap controls? my WMR headset uses both the hand gestures for walking and handgestures

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I have two joysticks unused

raven silo Oct 6, 2018, 1:38 AM

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maybe steam advance input

plucky acorn Oct 6, 2018, 1:39 AM

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where is that?

raven silo Oct 6, 2018, 1:40 AM

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https://github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings

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https://github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-InputEmulator

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this ^^^^ @plucky acorn

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 1:47 AM

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@plucky acorn in steamvr there's an option to change the controller mapping with some already made by the community. I use my wmr thumbsticks for movements, and touchpad for gestures.

I'll send you a link to my video how to do it

brisk umbra Oct 6, 2018, 1:52 AM

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question guys which vr headset would be better mixed reality or oculus?

zinc badger Oct 6, 2018, 1:53 AM

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oculous

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by far

oak bison Oct 6, 2018, 1:53 AM

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^

zinc badger Oct 6, 2018, 1:53 AM

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trust me

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its the right thing to do

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Can you get ddos'd in vrchat?

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ive heard somewhere its possible....

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 1:56 AM

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I love wmr, but I'd still recommend oculus over it to the average player for the touch controlers

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 1:57 AM

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Yeah wmr is great, Its what I have. One con of having it is that you cant put your hands behind you. and your controllers may bug out at times if the headset loses LED tracking. But its not the worst so im not really complaining

zinc badger Oct 6, 2018, 1:58 AM

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oculous

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 1:58 AM

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Gonna buy full body tracking but would like to know exactly what I need for it

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So I need 3 trackers. 2 for my feet and 1 for my hips. Do I need another sensor for on my wall?

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On top of buying the straps for the trackers

zinc badger Oct 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

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i would get 1

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get 3

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2 in front 1 in back

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but have them angled above you facing downward onto you

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 1:59 AM

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to clarify you can put your hands behind you with wmr..., Just not as accurate

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

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Not for mine, mine just stays in its place and just kinda turns

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

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So the Vive comes with 2 sensors that go opposite of each other so the 3rd one would go in front of me?

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But like the other side

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

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look in a mirror while putting your hands behind you

zinc badger Oct 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

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MYTH BUSTED @vocal shard

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:00 AM

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So only one corner would be missing a sensor

brisk umbra Oct 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

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decided to get the oculus thanks guys!

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

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If they are moving, they keep tracking. I made a whole video demonstrating wmr, it's tracking, and use in vrchat

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:01 AM

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hm idk mine just dont work behind my head

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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This is gonna be so expensive

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Another sensor and 3 trackers

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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If you stop moving or are too slow, they will stick. Fluid movements are tracked for about 10 seconds before completely shutting down because the software doesn't have enough input to be sure

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Tbh I didn’t know you were suppose to get a 3rd sensor till just now

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Good luck @viral yacht 😃

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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well i've seen footage of an xbox 1 kinnect that can let you do FBT

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:02 AM

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Does the base vive support more than 2 sensors?

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

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yeah thats pretty true @vocal shard

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mine just kinda shake a lot

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then they bug out

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and like

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fly away?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:03 AM

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Either lighting, or Bluetooth

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That's not normal

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

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The Kinect isn’t the greatest. I’ve tried it and every time I pick up my legs it bends the knees, plus it isn’t 360

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

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I've kept hearing that the normal vive only supports 2 lighthouses

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

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yeah, but it works

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

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yeah lol but people find it hilarious how scuffed my arms are

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:04 AM

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So only people who have the Vive pro can do 3 sensors?

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Does that mean all full body players have the pro or?

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

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No

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You only need the three trackers for full body

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A third sensor isn't required.

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:05 AM

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Oh, I thought it was

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That’s what people were saying in stream

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:06 AM

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Lol, true. When I play in the dark, I sometimes get those arms, and it's funny. But with good lighting and a Bluetooth dongle away from the PC, it's smooth as long as in the camera range. Then degrades as it goes out outside

queen mango Oct 6, 2018, 2:06 AM

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@viral yacht One for the hip and two for the legs, afaik

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:06 AM

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So what would the 3rd sensor even do? Just better coverage?

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:07 AM

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Yeah

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:07 AM

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The vive lighthouses aren't actually sensors, they are becons, and the HMD,controllers,trackers, track those inside out. Having a third or more gives them a better chance to see them. But the normal vive has been using 2 this whole time

wicked spire Oct 6, 2018, 2:08 AM

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i think the new rating system is hilarious

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:08 AM

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But the normal Vive can’t even use 3 sensors, only 2?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Yeah

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:08 AM

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Two.

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The body trackers are what you need 3 of

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Those pucks you put on your legs and waist.

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:09 AM

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Whelp I hope it works just as good with 2 sensors, as long as I can dance and what not without disconnecting I’m good

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I have 0 issues with anything else so far, like my arms never disconnect or go crazy

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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As long as your playspace is clear farther down it ought to be fine.

viral yacht Oct 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Sweet

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I literally use to have so many issues and never knew that the problem was

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Then I realized it was because my closet is a huge mirror

queen mango Oct 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Oof

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:10 AM

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Oof yeah

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:11 AM

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Yep that'll do it.

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:11 AM

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The lighthouses send out ir beams in a specific pattern, if those are bounced around, that will mess up the tracking

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 2:11 AM

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All it takes is a mirror, dance pole, or a large picture frame to mess you up but most things are easy to cover.

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:26 AM

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!online

floral flaxBOT Oct 6, 2018, 2:27 AM

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There are 7517 users in VRChat currently

queen mango Oct 6, 2018, 2:27 AM

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That should go to #bottalk

molten hornet Oct 6, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Any idea why no players are loading for me?

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stuck on 0 %

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only like 3 people loaded

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 2:41 AM

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My VRchat has no boot menu from which to log in to.

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Amazinnnnnng

rancid vessel Oct 6, 2018, 3:35 AM

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What the heck?

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VRChat for the whole werewolf game just like crashed for all of us..

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It was like one by one the game crashed.. and VRChat won't relaunch for me steam says its still running..

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There it goes..

cerulean dust Oct 6, 2018, 4:03 AM

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I wanna make a troll map for trusted users only. But I dunno how many people are gonna take it seriously.

queen mango Oct 6, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I saw that

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@cerulean dust What would the troll map look like?

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Careful, if someone takes your jokes seriously you can get banned apparently lol

cerulean dust Oct 6, 2018, 4:21 AM

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I was thinking of a small purple themed bar with a bouncer outside saying trusted only. The bar will be called "Trusted or Busted".

No triggers kicking people out or anything, I just wanna see how the memes play out.

rancid vessel Oct 6, 2018, 4:22 AM

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My idea for a map if I study on how to use unity.. I would make something very scary XD

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I have very good ideas for a haunted house like world.

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Would probably go by the name of House of Horrors 😛

cerulean dust Oct 6, 2018, 4:24 AM

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There are simple free horror assets in the unity store. You can always start small. My first few maps were 3x3 rooms with a mirror and some random pickupobjects.

haughty tendon Oct 6, 2018, 4:32 AM

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what plugin do i need to see vidios in vr

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cos im not sure

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 5:00 AM

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<.<

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:06 AM

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hello all

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I just was on vrchat

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logged off to swap into vr mode (was in desktop)

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and all of a sudden my cache was gone so I restarted my computer

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still gone so I looked manually and yes it was indeed gone

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I try to start up vr mode again and I get "A key component of SteamVR is not working"

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so I uninstall and try redownload now I am getting "Disk Write Error"

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anyone had this problem or know how to fix?

meager solstice Oct 6, 2018, 5:16 AM

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Weird.... I’ve never heard of anyone having a problem like that

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:16 AM

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My Windows Defender just updated just before all this happened

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might be that

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it was using A LOT of CPU as well

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doing some research online also though and it might be my hard-drive failing 🤷

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 5:31 AM

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oh that really sucks, im super sorry about that

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But you should get a real diagnosis of your computer. For me I kept getting blue screened while on vrchat. I talked to NVIDIA (my gpu manufacturers) and it turns out it was out dated

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@vocal shard

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I talked to nvidia through my computer. On the phone

worn shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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plastic bottles have reflections causing my headset to have a stroke and die )=

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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currently trying to install the latest driver update to see if that helps 👍

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 5:33 AM

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awesome, good luck

worn shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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i dont belong in this conversation...

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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😂

worn shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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same

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theres no meme channel meaning i cannot exist

velvet quarry Oct 6, 2018, 5:35 AM

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Got #general-media for that.

worn shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:35 AM

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k

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I CaNt PoSt ImaGeS TheRE

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REE

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imma cease to exist now. bye!

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oh...

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 5:45 AM

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got a warning on my phone just now "New sign-in on Windows" and I was worried I was getting hacked but for some reason google didn't even recognise my computer... idk what is going on

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😟

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 5:58 AM

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change your passwords just incase

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if you're certain its being hacked unplug the whole computer

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But seriously, i really hope you figure this out. If you wanna go to extreme steps may be better off resetting the computer fully. but only if you know its a hacker

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get avast if you can

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 6:16 AM

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lol

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what hacker is moving your mouse

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:18 AM

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<.<

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:34 AM

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@vocal shard if you are using windows 10, did you update your windows?

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A recent problem has risen with the new update that makes it wipe all your user data

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:36 AM

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windows 10 shouldnt cause an issue unless you turned the built in security features off

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there are some who are dumb enough to turn them off

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:37 AM

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The entire update is borked from windows, users are reporting their documents and files gone

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And with what I hear of windows 10 forcing updates...

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It just sounds like bad news.

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:38 AM

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maybe windows update build 1809 they are on

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We have paused the rollout of the Windows 10 October 2018 Update (version 1809) for all users as we investigate isolated reports of users missing some files after updating.

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https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4464619

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Yes it was 1809

agile holly Oct 6, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Spooky

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:39 AM

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missing some files

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Microsoft

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Everything under the user folder isn't "some files"

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:40 AM

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workaround is wait for microsoft to release a patch

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I feel bad for those who updated

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?

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:41 AM

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What are the best places to download vrc avatars

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:41 AM

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That was the fastest ive seen a message deleted man

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Try bowlroll or nicovideo if you want MMD models

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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usually mmd sites, but idk if we are allowed to speak about it here

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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You can't say the word at the end 😂

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bam

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shhh

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Turbosquid If you want traditional 3d models

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But most are paid

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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awesome, im looking for some halloween themed MMD models

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Ah some are already out

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:42 AM

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other than you have to run them in blender THINKing

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Ive tried blender, doesnt let me add addons for some reason

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Reinstall

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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ive done that

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Blender fucks up randomly, utterly randomly

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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just tried a couple minutes ago

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:43 AM

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only thing i can say is that eye tracking may not work on all mmd models

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had 2 where eye tracking broke and had to fix the eye position in order to get it to work

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:44 AM

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My blender recently went down to 1 fps and lags on every selection so it's most likely not you

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:44 AM

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<.<

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:44 AM

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yeah i dont know whats up with blender 😂

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 6:44 AM

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^^

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:44 AM

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ive tried following like 3 tutorials

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:45 AM

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i missread your thingy lego

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Maybe install a more stable build?

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Or are older versions incompatible?

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:45 AM

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I'm not sure, ive only tried uninstalling and reinstalling the newest one

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:46 AM

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I see

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:46 AM

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Do you know a site where i can download vrchat ready avatars? like for unity?

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I really want this dl-https://www.deviantart.com/fghostly/art/MMD-Fairy-Tail-Juvia-Lockser-Clown-DL-713490800

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:48 AM

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just dl it and ask a friend to do the blender stuff and to send the files ready for unity

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:48 AM

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well'p i need to find someone who can do that for me 😂 Dont have any friends who are into vrchat or blender

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:49 AM

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good luck

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 6:50 AM

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my friend has a fairy tail world idk if it has this though

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:50 AM

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oh mic, how do you like the ability to favorite public avatars?

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:50 AM

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oh really? Whats the name of it?

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 6:54 AM

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look up avatar guild hall

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in world search

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also, i only use my own so i havent favorited any, seems cool though

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Alright, tysm

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:55 AM

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yeah, i dont use public avatars but ive friends who're loving it

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specially since so many people have been asking to be able to do that

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Most people were dying for that feature

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:56 AM

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yeah

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specially steam users

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:57 AM

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I normally just download mine off of vrc m ods. I don't really have time to make my own.

rough flax Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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never seeing anyone in the vrchat discord in game

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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youve seen me purple

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we use to be friends

agile holly Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Same I'm just waiting to see one of these ppl online

rough flax Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Used to be? thinkRound

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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yeah

rough flax Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Steam user?

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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nope

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 6:58 AM

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i'm online at night till 4am a lot lol

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:59 AM

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i just delete people i never go see or never see me

rough flax Oct 6, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Oh :0

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 6:59 AM

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kinda pointless to keep on the friendlist, so i clear it of those things often

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Did the vrchat team compile a whitelisted shader list yet

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Using cubeds with no changes still gets me reverted for some reason

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:00 AM

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yeah its strange to see anime avatars wtih no shaders. they look like creepy dolls

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:00 AM

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nah

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most of them seem nice still to me

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:00 AM

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Well it is spooky skeleton doot season

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I just dont like the standard because it has no cutout

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Some models that have shaders mixed with their avatar parts looked like distorted characters..

glass sun Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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anyone know how to fix the problem for steam users of not able to grab a avatar from a private world? and not be able to upload?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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And my wing looks like crap

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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lord

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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Not being able to upload is not a problem

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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steam users arent able to upload

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:01 AM

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^^

glass sun Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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and what about grabbing avatars from private worlds?

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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and some avatar pedastals are for friends only

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Does the avatar you try to grab have a lock on the pedestal?

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And they can't use a avatars from private world's... Only public

glass sun Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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no

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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@rigid crescent I cant find any worlds called "avatar guild hall"

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:02 AM

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Apparently what helton said

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I left being a steam user after the first five seconds tbh

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:03 AM

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lol

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never had a steam account

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Very limited and tightly made

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 7:03 AM

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i had a steam account the first month i played

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:03 AM

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You can blame it on me not reading the page

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And only bonus is that you can change your name often...

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Steam accounts are like glorified guest accounts

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:04 AM

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glorified visitors

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:04 AM

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I still think visitor shouldve been a rank for steam users

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But new users with steam accounts cant upload too..

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It implies that they arent here for long

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Which is what steam accounts are

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The person might like vrchat and make a vrchat account

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:05 AM

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canny a new rank for steam users, its a pink color and turns off everything

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Or not play

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Them being pink is the biggest punishment imo

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:06 AM

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yes

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make it a thing

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:06 AM

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I still feel limited from my downrank

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Gotta make a sign

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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rin pie i finally made it

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Steam accounts should be treated like test tries, and presentation to the game rather than permanent accounts tbh...

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Yay

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Are you a visitor now (white nameplate)?

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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emypaw is my username if wanna add me

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yesh

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Yay

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I cant rn but I will later

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:07 AM

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but in few weeks im sure it change

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^_^

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Yeah

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You're gonna be a new user later when you can upload

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Imma new user too

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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awesomeness

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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<.<

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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im super happy now

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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~~even though I've been playing since 2017...~~

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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ohh and the crashes and lagg semds vanished

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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rin

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Yeah

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I know

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:08 AM

#

hi

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Hi

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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what is your pic

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Me in the morning

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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cute

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Also me rn

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@kindred sand
»THE 🍝 «

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust rank which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help and being a nuisance will give you the possibility of the lowest rank ingame.”

“According to many responses the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours to go from Visitor to 'New User' or User but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident because you can't upload as a 'New User' or User while using it”

“Play the game until you get a notification or e-mail of reaching a new rank and obtaining the ability to upload.”

https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.3.2/docs/vrchat-safety-and-trust-system

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Its very early in the morning

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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/copypasta

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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rin

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you lie

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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No

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No

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:09 AM

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its 12:09am

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you lie

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its not morning

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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10:09 am and I just woke up

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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same

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Morning to me

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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YOU LIE

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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False

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Timezones

rigid crescent Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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https://www.vrchat.net/home/world/wrld_566c8204-2563-48ae-aca6-f9b1c31a0d35 @maiden hound

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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i wont believe this suff such as timezones

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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thank youuuuuu

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:10 AM

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GWfroggyBlobThonk

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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ima play like insane now my steam user was fer at least 40 hours and i can do it again and latest 3 days i gotten bout 5 adds a day

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Woke up at 7:50 am and it's 9:10 am now, also Sean, it's not 12:09 am but pm to you...

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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no

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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so im sure i can find em all again readd them and rank up

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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helton

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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12 am is for when the moon comes down

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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its 12:09am right now

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pm is the middle of the day

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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So you are at midnight*?*

maiden hound Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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pst timezone

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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yes midnight

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:11 AM

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I told him timezones

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Oh, that's 00:10 am then

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🤷

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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2:11 AM (CDT) for me

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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if you do the 24 hour clock you dont use the am/pm

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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@vocal shard that is 24 hour clock

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would be 00:10

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Ay right all the US people now are late at night

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Wish I didn't live in such a crappy timezone

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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helton its like this

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I use both, because I'm a scrub 😏

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I use 24 hours

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Still 10:13

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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11 am 12pm 1pm and all the way to night its like 11pm 12am 1am

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Sean, I use both...

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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then how'd you think i was in pm xD

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:13 AM

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In 24 hours that would be 23:13

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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i rarely use 24 hour time as im use to 12 hour time format

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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For 11 pm

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I got counfused with the 24 hour that you use

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Ive grown used to it on my phone

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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8pm = 20:00

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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i can use both but i prefer 12 hour clock

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

#

ez

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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It's more like a 12 hour with pms and ams

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@mighty galleon how is the moonset

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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idk?

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i never look at the moon

true sky Oct 6, 2018, 7:14 AM

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am = morning
pm = noon

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ez to remember

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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I know @true sky

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Aw come on dont tell me you don't watch the moon come down

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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never

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Its like the sunset

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But less epic

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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i never watch the sunset either

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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Ight

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Except less dangerous to look at

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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never was a naturalist

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:15 AM

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I like watching the moon rise

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It's always so red and domineering

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Then it gets smaller and paler

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:16 AM

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if it involves the outside world im not interested

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:17 AM

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You do you

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Oh boy, this year has been a record for me, Seen the blood moon, the yellow moon, the blue moon, eaten cheese cake, played bowling, finished middle School and I am now in high school, became best man at my brother's wedding...

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Aye

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I also saw the blood moon

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And the blue moon

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:17 AM

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also rin, i live in an apartment complex no way to actually watch the moon unles i go outside and stand in the street

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:17 AM

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Ah

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That's a sad

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I can get on my rooftop and watch the sky just fine

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:18 AM

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thats dangerous

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:18 AM

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Its dark around because I live in a rural area

#

But I also saw a blue and yellow flashing moon while said event was happening. I've seen the yellow moon before at a bigger scale, but not like that...

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But I can see all the constellations

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:19 AM

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so you must like outer space?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:19 AM

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Very

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:19 AM

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oh

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yeah never much interested in that stuff

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:19 AM

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It's kind of beautiful for a group death of stars

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:20 AM

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i get bored of stuff very easily

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so space interest i lost at a very young age

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:20 AM

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Mhm

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:20 AM

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when i was interested i was only interested in black holes

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Black holes are interesting

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They do the big succ

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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rin

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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Can't wait for when people will go to Mars in 2020...

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Im sorry

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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that reminds me of a pic but cant post them here

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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I had to

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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wanna see in dm?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:22 AM

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Yeah why not

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I likey white holes moar, so much information to gather from them

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:22 AM

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i only wanted to know what it'd be like to go into one

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:23 AM

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Getting ripped apart with high pressures*?*

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Isn't it more like dissolved because of the pressure

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:23 AM

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would be interesting to feel

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:24 AM

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Just go to your nearest vacuum machine and stick your hand for a couple of seconds until you feel pain, (get it out after that) now you have felt a low pressure black hole...

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:25 AM

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hmm

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or

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put it on mic's chest

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feel the void of emotions

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Or Give yourself a hikkie

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:26 AM

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~~already gotten a few from friends~~

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:26 AM

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Or how are those called 🤔

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Kinky...

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:26 AM

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rin

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bad human

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-swats with newspaper-

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:26 AM

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And says he doesn't have interests makes Shame motion

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Hey*!* Not my doppelganger you fool*!*

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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hmm? i actually dont much have an interest in space anymore, kinda find ti boring

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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You know what i find weird? The fact that some people have fallen asleep in vr. Like that has to fuck with you to wake up in vr, right?

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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just back then i wanted to know

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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GWfroggyBlobSweat dont smack me

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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-swats more-

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bad human

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:27 AM

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Rin give him a smacc*!*

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Ow

I know people who slept and woke up in vr

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:28 AM

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helton you of all people know

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i'd like that

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:28 AM

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GWfroggyBlobSweat GWfroggyZoomeyes

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:28 AM

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Like anyone here done that?

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:28 AM

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That's why was tricking them into doing so 😏

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@gloomy valve the people I know said it was like sleeping irl, except some said their faces got a little sore

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Most have people stick around to make sure theyre ok

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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lol

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i'd never be able to sleep in vr

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Wow thats dedication

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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-smack-

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Yeah im a light sleeper

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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It's probably like sleeping on a flat and smooth surface

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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oh its not that bear

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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As soon as somone mic blasts me id wake up

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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i sleep on my stomach

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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I sleep on my side

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:29 AM

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Too, sometimes, @mighty galleon

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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try laying on your stomach with a headset on

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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I would sleep in vr if it didn't rip my sleep away

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Lol hello neck injury

kindred sand Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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lol same here

vocal shard Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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I already stay up too much on desktop mode

mighty galleon Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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rin

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come sleep on me

gloomy valve Oct 6, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Idk i might try it just to say k did it.