#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 571

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:08 AM

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Yes, yes they can.

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:08 AM

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this is a great game right ^_^

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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People can see it. I can see it, you can see it.

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Tbh don’t even know what’s what on an avatar at this point because I barely know anything to do with avatars

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Anarchy mode

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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https://www.sansar.com/

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Just turn the filter off

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Ez

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Grr

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Literally the easiest thing.

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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@tranquil vortex THANKCYOU

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Omg

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Like if an avatar has hair coloured in which it looks like it has stars moving in it, is that now gone or?

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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It's not

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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Can you explain to me why no one can see your avatar, Bromius? I'm confused. I seem to have missed the "turns all custom avatars off" part of the update.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:09 AM

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But people can block it if they choose to disable a shader

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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^

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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The "only gray man allowed" portion of the new patch

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Oh, so I can choose whether or not I want to see your shaders and that amounts to suffering?

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Yes

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Sorta

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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lol

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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It goes with trusted level

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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The ability to choose isn't a negative thing.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Well

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It's not exactly choice

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It's more of...

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:10 AM

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Now, if it was just "Yeah, sorry but we just got rid of fucking shaders bro" then I'd be with you

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"new users can't use shaders GG scrubs" would be awful

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I want to see your shader because you're trusted and less likely to be eyerape

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I’m user so I’m assuming people will have that turned off

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Yea user shaders are off my default

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I like vrchat the way it was

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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This allows people to choose whether or not they want to see your avatar. Anyone that stops making avatars due to users having a choice in how they experience probably was making them for attention to begin with.

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Feelsbadman

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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I like seeing everyones shaders and models and shit because that's how they express themselves

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Mic_sounders the fanboy lol

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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i just turned my safety levels off

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Okay so note to self, don’t pick an avatar that might have moving clothes, hair, etc

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With being a user

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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If we had new users blocked a few months ago, we wouldn't have the whole knuckes shit and the popularity explosion

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Fanboy? Because I like being able to choose what I see?

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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knuckles didnt use standard shaders?

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Explain that one to me m8

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Whatever, this gives VR an opportunity for aonther social platform to rise

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fanboy because you are here 24/7

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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It's not just shaders tho

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Or still pick it for my own enjoyment, but people using default settings for users won’t see the specialties of my avatar

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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you live and breathe this discord channel

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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It's models

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And sounds and animation

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Fanboy
An extreme fan or follower of a particular medium or concept, whether it be sports, television, film directors, video games (the most common usage), etc.

Known for a complete lack of objectivity in relation to their preferred focus. Usually argue with circular logic that they refuse to acknowledge. Arguments or debates with such are usually futile. Every flaw is spun into semi-virtues and everything else, blown to comedic, complimentary proportions.

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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@indigo fern no

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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most of them went to the ugandan world

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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So I guess put it this way

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Pretty sure they use flat lit toon

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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ahh, i see

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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At the core it was suppost to be a social platform right?

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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At least they look like they do

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Not seeing avatars shouldn't be a cause of uproar

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:13 AM

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If the content creators had new user Avis blocked... They wouldn't have seen anything

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:14 AM

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yea they would, it by default it blocks their shaders not the whole avatar

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:14 AM

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Now, translate that when vrchat had that huge population explosion a few months back

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:14 AM

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What did I say that wasn't objective?

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I appear as User most of the time, meaning I'm affected by anything that blocks User stuff

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:14 AM

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I think this just hurts people who are really passionate about avatar creation

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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yup

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Or at least want people to see their hard work

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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I think you can make full renders and like

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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avatars are on for visitors by default too, its the shaders that wouldve been a problem

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Because Jesus is it hard to make an avatar

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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pose some nice pictures on deviant art and get better feed back

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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no point of creating if half the people can't see it lol

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Which means ,by default, my Shaders are blocked. It's not ahuge deal.

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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instead of risking it being stolen

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Shaders are a big part of good avatars imo

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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I don’t even make many avatars lol

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Tru

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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I’m just wondering if I go to a world, pick an avatar that has some particle effects on it, will people even be able to see it now

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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basically every anime avatar has the toon-lit shader

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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yeah i get ya Mic. i like some of the crazy shaders out there but im not gonna be pissed if people cant see it

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Pretty much

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Make stuff for yourself

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:15 AM

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If you really wanna show off your work go to a site that is about showing off your work

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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^this

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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so if you have an anime avatar and you're not trusted, most people can't see you ^_^

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Like I want to see vrchat the way it was meant to be and not cherry picked

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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Wait hold up

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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I wanna see everything including the ugly bits

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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^

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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....they can see you though

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:16 AM

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That's what made VR chat ... Vrchat

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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I waved at someone who said they had shaders blocked for Users. They waved back,.

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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If you’re user or lower and use an anime avatar, most likely you can’t be seen?

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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This was an awful move lol

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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he's exaggerating, you can be seen.

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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You can be seen

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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I almost had a heart attack

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All my avatars are anime lol

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Just the shaders won’t

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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It's reallly easy, just go to a world. find an avatar you like

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pick it, use it

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done.

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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I have all users on to see models

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just not shaders or anything

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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Tbh like I said earlier because I’m new to the whole making your own avatar thing, don’t even know what a shaded does or changes lol

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:17 AM

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its not a huge deal

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If someone dosen't want to see you its their choice anyway

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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It just changed the way textures look I guess

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Changes

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Idk I can’t explain it well

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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It's you're really that worried about what people think about how you look, then it's not hard to get into avatar making especially anime shit

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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Flat lit toon shaders should be whitelisted

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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it is

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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That’s okay, I probably wouldn’t understand by explanation anyways

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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I mean for the trust system

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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I would need photos to even comprehend the difference

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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Don’t think anything is white listed

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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https://docs.vrchat.com/v2018.3.2/docs/shader-fallback-system

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:18 AM

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there is no whitelist lol

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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There's dozens of videos and written guides

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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I know

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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theres not a whitelist, but a fallback system

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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But they should allow at least cubedshaders through the filter

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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they have some other toon/lit on there
unless that is cubeds

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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oh looks like they added some third party shaders to their engine

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:19 AM

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you'd think the one in the hour and half video teaching people to make avatars would be lol

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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That video took me two full nights to follow along to

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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I have sounders blocked. I'm sure hes still going on about how VR chat can't make any mistakes ¯_(ツ)_/¯

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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I felt so slow

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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eh i just play dangerously, i lower the sheilds when im in the box

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Lmfao

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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tanabae

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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sometimes you meet cool people

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sometimes you get crashed

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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Wait so toon/lit is on there..

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:20 AM

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I have no shields at all

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I live a dangerous life

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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yup

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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Either they dont know, dont show or dont care about whats goin on in da box

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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I'm so confused

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I'm seeing lots of animes using standard shaders on normal shield settings

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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not sure how it checks which shader to fallback on, since yea, ive seen toon shaders just go white with the shields on

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:21 AM

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https://steamcharts.com/app/438100 I'll be keeping an eye on this, see if the new system has an actual effect on playerbase

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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They must be useingb other shaders then

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Ohhh so shaders was the thing I was talking about earlier, like clothes that have a moving galaxy effect

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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could be

calm quiver Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Sans

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I'd hope it would encourage people to go into publics again

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and like

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Why do people feel the need to announce who they block, why not just do it and be silent about it lol, he's acting like he's not hitting expand on all my posts anyway

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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meet new people

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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@viral yacht yes same here

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Probably that'd make sense

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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@viral yacht bingo

rough flax Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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New people monkaS

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I doubt it would bring people back to publics

calm quiver Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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I wonder how many Bowsette avatars are out there now

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Well shit, that’s like all the avatars I use

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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@indigo fern Terroir had a picture of that glitch in the pictures sect.

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:22 AM

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Yeah that's what shaders are, "texture enhancers" are the simplest way to say it

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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All of them have like stars moving through the hair or whatever

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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gg

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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yeah i've seen some of those

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Oh i made one xD

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Bowsette i mean

calm quiver Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Oh

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472177638346063888/497150796442370068/Bowsette.png

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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There’s a lot already

calm quiver Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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Is it your PFP

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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As long as they still look normal I don’t really mind, but if it like completely messes it up then yikes

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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i wanna find that cool gometrical shader for props mostly

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but idk where to get it

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:23 AM

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the thing is, you won't even know if it's messed up to be honest

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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People would say

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Like the one avatar with the girl in the painting or whatever

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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oh those

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whew

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Without shaders it’s just a giant grey box

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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RIP if your shader is blocked there

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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stencils yea

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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And it’s horrible

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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It’s basically a testing method for me

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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or the people who cover their nameplate, a huge box too

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Also the scary avatar ones

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I just need to test all the avatars I like and use

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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I usually leave shaders on and turn off animations and particles instead

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:24 AM

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Those kinda get messed up too

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The jump scare ones

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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yeah jump scares are insta blocks, those are super annoying

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Eh

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I don’t mind it

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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any avatar made with the intent to disrupt are annoying to be honest

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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My main avatar has particles around her

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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It kinda funny to see someone shit their pants

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:25 AM

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Oops

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Lmfao

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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to be honest, you're looking into it a bit too much. find an avatar you like and use it, or make one you like and use it. plenty of people will see it, though some won't

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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ok coming from a horror fan, i find horror avatars both cool and hella anoying

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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I like your name @indigo fern

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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tanabae

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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but there was always an option to block avatars, there were probably plenty of people who never saw it to begin with

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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It’s a real mood

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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True

analog rune Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Did anyone else's trackers get messed up from the last steamVR update? My controllers are being overridden by my leg trackers.

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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i would say the most annoying one is "Dont blink"

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Time to get on and mess around

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Wait till u see the veteran version @hoary ridge

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:26 AM

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I've heard of people having that issue, there might be some answers in the full body channel though\

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 AM

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oh my, the ability to turn individuals into the ghost instead of using the panic button to change everyone is godlike

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 AM

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@cinder pier veteran version?

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Xd

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Nvm

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 AM

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Big confusion

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:27 AM

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"why am I not veteran user anymore?"

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:28 AM

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Oh lol

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Oh I forgot they got rid of veteran

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OmegaLUL

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:28 AM

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I'll never forget...

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Xd

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:28 AM

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all my veteran memes are irrelevant now ;-;

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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just turn them into trusted memes

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like the water fountain

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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tororo

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I'll just wait for the next change lul

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Veteran is still in the API

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Or "legend"

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Turn them to user

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Why am I still user

cobalt temple Oct 4, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Hey Mic

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It's Ainsley

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:31 AM

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I don't mind appearing as user actually that should be the default setting

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:31 AM

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I think you can toggle being a user or not

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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That's what I was saying

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Ah

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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But make user default

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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honestly, the green from user is way better than the orangish/brown that known has

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:32 AM

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Yesss

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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i want them to switch the colors of new and known

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Even seeing friends with yellow took some time to get used to

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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gimme blue

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new user has a really good color vrclike

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:33 AM

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Green is just normal looking

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All the other colors just don’t look right

indigo fern Oct 4, 2018, 4:34 AM

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the others are just different, but known user is different in a bad way

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very unappealing to a lot of people

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:36 AM

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I could get used to it though. Everyone having different coloured name tags

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 4:36 AM

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There was apparently pink name tags?

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Or was that just a colour glitch

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:36 AM

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Must have been

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:36 AM

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didn't they make it so youre a user by default til you swap it?

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the Known rank is weird, it's affected the most by world effects

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it looks plain red in the ghibli world while, to me, it looks orange-red in the pug

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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No, by default it shows your rank

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:37 AM

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please help, I deleted my cash and my cookies and vrchat still will never load a world, it's stuck on a 0% loading screen forever

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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'"By default, if you are a Known or Trusted User your Trust Rank will be hidden, and you will show as a User. You will still be able to toggle your higher Trust Rank on as before."' they didn't go with this?

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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*cache

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Have you tried reinstalling? I haven't really seen anyone with that issue yet, maybe bug reports or something/

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Well I sent an email I'll wait for a response to that but I'll try reinstalling it thanks :-)

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:38 AM

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I'm not 100% sure since i've messed with it a bunch for the memes, but I feel like I defaulted to user

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:39 AM

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@rigid crescent yeah don't overdo it with the memes

cinder pier Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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I don't think they did cause the first time I checked when it was live I was appearing as trusted

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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oh i've run into some sensitive people lol

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Yeah wait till you get photosensitive epilepsy or ptsd

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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oh you mean those, i don't do those

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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Or you have a traumatic brain injury and you can't socialize any other way but vrchat

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:40 AM

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i just mean swapping my rank to Trusted and making rank jokes

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:41 AM

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@rigid crescent it all depends on if you are doing something that makes noise and flashing lights too often, cuz that can be harassing. You can only really try it around new people once and you can't do it more than once unless people really respond to it well

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Especially if it fills the whole room

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:41 AM

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yeah, I only have avatars with facial expressions and hand gestures, anything annoying like that is the worst

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there's material swap on my eyes for each gesture, but that's about it

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:42 AM

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well who knows. I wonder if my ranked went down cuz when I deleted my cookies it treated me like a new user making me do the tutorial again so that might be some error

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But I'm glad you don't take it too far buddy :-) Thanks For That

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:42 AM

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nah, that stuff is stored server side

worn rampart Oct 4, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Cool

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:42 AM

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Caffeine

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Where he at

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:43 AM

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You know I haven’t even though about stuff like that

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That’s a pretty good point

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:44 AM

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Yeah I'm not really sure why "if you have those problems, don't use VR" even though there's no "real" game that would have effects as intense as some of these screen shaknig and distortion shaders that people do

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:45 AM

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Tbh

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:45 AM

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There's people who have been fine their whole life and they're in VR totally fine until someone warps their screen.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:45 AM

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That's fair

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If you know you're at risk, you probably shouldn't use vr

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Well, it's more like if you know you're at risk you shouldn't play VRChat, like I said a real game won't have that kind of thing, not to the level people take it.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:46 AM

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That's like. Implied and I'm sure it comes on the health warnings of the headset

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:46 AM

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But it's not something you can easily regulate in VRC

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:46 AM

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TBH, if you wear the headset, it's not the devs responsibility to to warn you

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You were warned when you bought the headset and it's your responsibility as a consumer to read any documentation

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Yeah, if you know it's bad that it's a real problem you really shouldn't have it, but I've got friends where it doesn't really cause a problem unelss someone is actively doing something with the intent to cause some kind of discomfort

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like walking up to them and blasting their face with distortion and flashes. that can affect anyone, not just people with pre-existing conditions

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it's done with the intent to harm, maybe not with a seizure, but in one way or another

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Even then. Other games do worse shit than vrchat

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Like it would hurt my eyes and disorient me, that's about it, but it's still done with the intent to harm me. It's just a shitty thing to do regardless

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:48 AM

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well i mean this game's SDK uses Unity. you could do much worst with it if you knew what you were doing

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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and I honestly don't think most people doing it do it hoping to cause a seizure, they're just being dicks for fun

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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this is also try

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*true

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I've chatted with some crashers, and they mostly have that sense of humor.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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Like honestly what are the chances of finding an epileptic using a vr headset tempting fate

opaque orchid Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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pls fix desktop mode

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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is anyone else having the issue of their menu not completely reaching the right side of their avatar list?

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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the fact they could seriously hurt someone unaware of a condition probably doesn't cross their mind

opaque orchid Oct 4, 2018, 4:49 AM

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D:

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Looks like they are driving a car

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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vroom vroom

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Don't use desktop mode?

opaque orchid Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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and still the neck is fked

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I am on Vr

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Wasn’t there a video of someone having a seizure in vrchat?

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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@tranquil vortex [EuroBeat Intensifies]

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Yeah

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There was

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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From what I heard, it was faked

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:50 AM

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I remember that

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Damn

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:51 AM

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should ask the person directly if it was fake

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:51 AM

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There's people who say it's real and others who say it's staged. It's pretty hard to find the truth

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I don't think the guy ever came out about it

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:51 AM

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yeah, no way to 100% tell if it was real or not so i just kind of assume it's not

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:51 AM

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Like, maybe it was real

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Maybe it wasn't

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I dunno

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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and because of that one time, it's hard to find any info on anyone else that might've had one

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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Either way

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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it's dumb, but i'm more inclined to believe a random "dude i have a seizure...." post than a viral video about a possible one

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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Still possible, thats why I had shaders off

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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That still seems very unlikely

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:52 AM

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personally anyway

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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like if I read a non-preachy reddit post or something about their experience having one, I'd probably find it more credible than a viral video made during height of vrchat

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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I don't understand what you would be afraid of, the only thing I can see myself getting from shaders like that, is just a bit of an eyesore but that's about it

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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You would think someone would have created a simple script to detect quick flashing colors and in response turn the screen black or something

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Then again, I was playing VR for a little while already so I'm already strained

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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I mean for all pc related stuff, not just VRchat

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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@fallow yoke not a bad idea TBH

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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@trail rapids sure you could, but, you got to remember that everything does it

fervent scroll Oct 4, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Not being afraid of anything

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like I said personally I like them off

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:54 AM

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to each their on my dude.

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:54 AM

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to me, it's just annoying and disruptive. it's not really the same as some dude running up and screaming profanity

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:54 AM

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That's really all it is, it's only Annoying and disruptive

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:54 AM

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With the power of technology I can make people instantly disappear

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:54 AM

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I don't intend to sound rude or anything, but if you know you have epilepsy, and flashing lights as one of your triggers, maybe you shouldn't be using a computer

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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yeah its not awsome when im in public rooms tyring to have a convo with a friend and then having somene randomly blasting music via a guesture, prop or script

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Okay using a computer is too much

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I think using vr is fair

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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You get what I'm saying

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Just know your limits

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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that's a bit extreme, i think you should just be more careful is all. like not using VR if it's really serious

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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exactly

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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If you know what your triggers are, why the heck are you going to tempt fate

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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some people just experience mild discomfort

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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@tranquil vortex seriously? so if you had epilepsy that would be your soultion?

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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or a lot of discomfort

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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besides more pcs now adays are implementing acessability features

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Just know your limits and actually confine to them

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:55 AM

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I would stop what I'm doing and not have it anymore

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Sounds simple enough

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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If I had epilepsy I would be looking for or making a program to prevent it

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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changing a lifestyle isn't as easy as you think

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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would not be hard to code at all

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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its kinnda not that simple. but i guess i get what your saying?

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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I'm not going to go and force everyone to accommodate my handicap

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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yeah so basically cut off from the world if you have epilepsy...hmm

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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its not really logical in todays age

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:56 AM

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sure there is a better solution than that

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Well the thing is, using VRchat as the example again, those people being asshats serve no purpose to begin with.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Yeah, don't play VR games

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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@rigid crescent Exactly!

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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If I know VR games are a trigger, I'm going to stop playing VR games just like that

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Make a modified exe

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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In the end, it's still their fault for doing it, they have no real reason to do it.

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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If going outside in the sun gives me a seizure, then I'm going to go outside in the night

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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@hoary ridge cant. Against tos to mod the SDk

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:57 AM

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you realize people with epilepsy are trigged by things flashing? Does not have to be VR related

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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It's usually not VR games, I haven't seen any VR games with as extreme of visual effects as some of these distortion and shaking shaders

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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I know that

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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You as an individual need to work around the problem, not forcing everyone to accommodate for you

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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But like sometimes you gotta do it to protect yourself

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But that’s what the new safety thing is fire

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For

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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Yeah, get rid of the handicap ramps and bathroom stalls

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why should we have to help those people?...

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it's not my fault you're crippled /s

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:58 AM

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That's your logic Valley if going out in the sun gave me a seizure i'd wear glasses that gave the effect of night time...lul

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Yeah, see it's pretty simple

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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people with light sensitivity do jsut that

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Or go at night

wicked vault Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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⭐ Vive Users! ⭐
If you are now getting error 306 and 400 and you've exhausted all other online solutions for trying to fix it and get SteamVR running again, opt into the 6/21/2018 hotfix beta and make sure all your game ready/AMD equivalent drivers are up to date. Restart Steam, relog in and it should relaunch

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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~~Like Miller from Mgs, that's what he wore those sunglasses all the time~~

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Shades lmao

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Jesus Valleybars you were not born with many IQ's

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Hey guys, could we move this to Random?

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please? :3c

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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da points hav falllinns

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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Im going to sleep lol

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Gn people

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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sleep well Asian

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 4:59 AM

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My dude, I'm not going to sacrifice my experience because other people can't

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Sucks to be them yeah I feel bad

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But like, they have their own things that they can do too

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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No one is arguing that

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Watch out for the police

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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No one said to sacrifice anything...

hoary ridge Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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They gonna tell you to go to random chat

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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But by your logic, we shouldn't have wheelchair ramps.

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Especially Ruud

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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Lel

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:00 AM

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or handicap rails

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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the argument is if you have epilepsy the solution is not to stop using everything that has a screen

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Okay, those are basically human rights

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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The solution is to look for an alternative

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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I'm talking about video games, VR shit or whatever

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Bruh why this person always fighting people

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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or something that acan make it easier or at least acesseable to them

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Yeet

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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man if there is no program for this Im seriously thinking of working on one o_O

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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go for it dude!

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Good luck not having it picked up by anti-cheat programs

surreal oasis Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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"GeneralGinge
It seems that to get your Vive Trackers to work again you have to manually go into the Controller Settings and remove the "Held from Hand" role and set them to disabled. What a pain in the ass.

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by the way.

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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valleybars what are you talking about?

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lol

surreal oasis Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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@analog rune

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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i mean he could show case it to the devs and pitch it.

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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it would not work inside a game

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valleybars legit 13 years old

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Okay, but that's not how they work

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Really

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how do they work?

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explain to me please

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Research epilepsy safe games, it took me 5 seconds. a mother said her son is epileptic so he plays minecraft. So instead of sacrificing all games, find out what's ok for you

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:02 AM

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^^^

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This

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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you're thinking from the perspective of someone who probably don't have any sort of disabiltiy

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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there we go

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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waiting

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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That's exactly when I've been trying to say this whole time

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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for how they work

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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in b4 "besides a mental one"

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no, you've been saying stop playing games

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Yeah, stop playing the games that fuck you up

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:03 AM

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Im saying there is a different soultion

cold talon Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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MAXIMUMOVERDRIVERANDOMCHAT random chat please

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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ok im bouncing for the night. Sleep well everyone, one love ect

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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by tracking your monitor display

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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No u

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Oh also

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Hi bahka

cold talon Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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Hello there

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 5:04 AM

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My days off better come faster

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I just wanna be able to play VRChat without interruption

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Flashing lights? Boy, just close your eyes it's that easy

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😂

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Kind of hard to do when you're having a seizure

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:05 AM

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just close your eyes 4Head

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Cyber bullying? Just turn off your whole computer

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lewd

sage chasm Oct 4, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Help!! I keep getting "Your connection to VRChat timed oui" msg

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:06 AM

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Just reset your network shit

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I'm surprised VRChat doesn't have those discord-style system messages

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"oWo Y-You disconnected, baka!"

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:09 AM

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id dig it

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:09 AM

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"Server-chan will be a good boy :3"

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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stop lol

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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hey man, discord does it

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Would be neat

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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server-chan, but good boy?

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confusedboner.exe

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Uploading data, Server-chan. Nyaa!

rigid crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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https://puu.sh/BFqgc/cca75b8abb.png this shit gets me every time

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:10 AM

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weebs, the lot of you XD

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:11 AM

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discord is the best boy headpats server

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:11 AM

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at least we know discord has a sense of humor

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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imagine how cringy it would be if skype did it too

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like a dad trying to be funny

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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shudders dont start man.

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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iris

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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hey man, you'll reach dad hood some day

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let that sink in

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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Skype-chan. Ready to service you!

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:12 AM

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pats hood of dad this dad can fit so many puns

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yo who tryna be friends or stuffs

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:14 AM

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hey man, i like a good meme every now and then.

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Have I already said that this game is a great excuse to learn unity?

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:25 AM

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oh its the best excuse to learn 3d modeling

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eyy my first vrchat dc

gloomy valve Oct 4, 2018, 5:26 AM

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i just wish animating in 3d was easier.

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oh wait.

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key frame animations 😄

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its just tedious to rig per animation

grim slate Oct 4, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Heya fellas and fellettes

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:39 AM

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ey

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im currently in disconnecting hell

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:40 AM

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morning snuggly bunnys

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:40 AM

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a guy is making a wee woo wee woo sound thats looping as a person came up and said Nice avatar

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ey emy

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:40 AM

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hows it going this morning

covert idol Oct 4, 2018, 5:40 AM

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vrcwow

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:40 AM

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pretty laggy but im aight, you sleep good?

covert idol Oct 4, 2018, 5:41 AM

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vrcsmile

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:41 AM

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yesh i did feels like i was past out for 15 hours

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:41 AM

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lmao

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i know that feeling

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:41 AM

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^_^ at least me turned the day back again

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:41 AM

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could be me rn but im playin

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😄

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well, attempting to play

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:42 AM

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oooh i can come on if u want

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:42 AM

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up to you, no pressure!

trail tangle Oct 4, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Bloodslaw 480e is useing something to getpassed new avtar safty thing

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:43 AM

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there online and ready hehe

trail tangle Oct 4, 2018, 5:43 AM

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blinding light that is not blockable coming from him

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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uh oh

trail tangle Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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i have a pic

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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so where is the cute jdawgpie

trail tangle Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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but cant post it here

shy nest Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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blinding light? could just be something they dont know about

craggy hull Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Hmm, i was checking out new worlds, then somebody joined the same world, asking me "Yo, filthy green, tell me what about this world". Then i remembered i turned on that mask to hide my rank, should i feel offended in this situation?

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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to the lucina in the pub who liked my avatar, im sorry i dc'd ;-;

shy nest Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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unless they're directing it

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:44 AM

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i got the same name in game as here, Emy

shy nest Oct 4, 2018, 5:45 AM

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just flop out your real rank and show superiority @craggy hull

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:46 AM

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As if a rank makes you superior?

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:46 AM

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i seems not able to copy to add u in game

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:46 AM

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yea its finicky

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Oh hey

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It's you

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I still like your profile pic

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 5:47 AM

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who

craggy hull Oct 4, 2018, 5:48 AM

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No, i wouldn't do that. I'm just saying it's just few days after the update, and there is already somebody like that wondering around.

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:49 AM

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It's much worse than that

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:49 AM

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found u jdawg

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Visitors and new users are being completely muted, kicked, and made fun of

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This ranking system is destroying the core of vrchat

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Why?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Because people like to Lord ranks over others

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It's stupid and means nothing

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:51 AM

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Yeah
I have just 70 hours and a lot of people just keep saying that I'm new to this game and I don't know a thing

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:52 AM

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i been on fer bout on and off for a month and same thing here its like they think im not even worth being on

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:52 AM

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They're just showing their immaturity, but it's spreading like wildfire

kindred sand Oct 4, 2018, 5:52 AM

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but i seems to keep getting added fer my cute choice of a bunny thing

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:54 AM

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It's bad enough, and been dealing with/hearing about enough experience just these last couple days that I made a canny on it.
https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/can-we-address-the-discrimination-against-visitors-and-new-users

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I'm tired of seeing people get harrassed for just a stupid colour on their name

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:54 AM

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Thank you for that waveboyeanimated

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:55 AM

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HeadPat

cold talon Oct 4, 2018, 5:57 AM

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Kicking them manually 🤢

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We need an auto kick function for ranks

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No non veterans in my instance Angry

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:58 AM

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he's just memeing

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Lol

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Oh 😂

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:58 AM

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Yeah I agree with your post jamie, amongst other issues

cold talon Oct 4, 2018, 5:58 AM

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My cover nyoooo

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:58 AM

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I have a feeling, or at least hope Devs will have a more refined approach next patch

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Mhmm

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:59 AM

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If not I think they will have a hard time getting new users to stay and build upon the playerbase

cold talon Oct 4, 2018, 5:59 AM

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Moving the ranks internally wont be a solution, hope they wont do that

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 5:59 AM

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and hardcore creators don't seem to happy so it could be a loss there too

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Ultimately it seems like the trolls have won lol

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:00 AM

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I've heard of long time players who just switched to a new account. They should be comfortable with the game, but now that they have new user rank, they can't even join their friends, because other people instantly vote kick them

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It's insane

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:01 AM

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Also..trolls with old accounts

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and now trolls that can't crash are ddossing.. honestly the whole thing seems to have failed

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:01 AM

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having an old acocunt is not a only factor for the rank though

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Also I would like some more help for steam users. I see lots of visitor users all the way through User rank but because they are steam accounts, they never get access to all the features that other users will have

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:02 AM

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true but a lot of trolls have multiple accounts that they are active on and some were not banned

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:02 AM

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Like even though they have User rank, Steam accounts aren't allowed to select avatars in non-public worlds

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 AM

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even if thats the case they will still get low rank

uncut trail Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 AM

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all streamers getting ddosed wtf

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 AM

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I'm using steam account

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 AM

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I had to abandon mine to upload avatars, was pretty stupid ¯_(ツ)_/¯

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:03 AM

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ddos me harder daddy

dusty crescent Oct 4, 2018, 6:04 AM

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And now I need to open a VRChat account for the opportunity to get better rank

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:04 AM

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I'd assume you can still get a good rank on a steam acct? Just can't get personal avatars

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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it shouldn't take someone playing for >100 hours for someone who understands what the 1d3f digits mean to walk up to them and say Hey by the way you're on a steam account, you should go and start over

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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also the whole "hackers are ddosing now because of the trust system" thing that you are trying to push sounds like fake

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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me?

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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it's weird. I have seen steam users with User rank but not higher. But even with User rank they don't get access to features that User rank should have access to, like uploading or using private worlds

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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yes

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 AM

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it's been all over chat tonight lol

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:06 AM

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they are going to do whatever to crash servers. its really not because of the trust system

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:07 AM

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can i go to vrc traders and sell ddos protection :^)

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:07 AM

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Lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:08 AM

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soo trust system comes out and a bunch of ddossing reports and you think there is no coloration?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:09 AM

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what are the differences if the results are the same (crashed servers) though?

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:09 AM

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of course there's coloration

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some people are blue and white and orange and purple now!

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and yellow!

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:09 AM

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don't forget green 😉

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:09 AM

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green was always there

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:10 AM

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whether they use ddos or crash avatars. the results are the same. why would you blame the trust system for that lol

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you are getting the whole thing wrong

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:11 AM

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i know how to count colors

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:13 AM

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also trust system improves the experience of socializing (which is the whole point of the vrc) waaay much more because you dont have to block 100 people for their stupid shaders and particles. you can just disable them instead blocking them by whole

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:13 AM

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yeee

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:15 AM

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it improves the experience of socializing? nah lol

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it puts people into classes

tall storm Oct 4, 2018, 6:15 AM

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That's only if you label people as such

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:15 AM

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The idea of the trust system I agree with... people using it to mute, block new users, and acting superior because of their rank. I strongly disagree with

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:16 AM

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worst thing you can have for a social game is people with elitist mentalities shitting on new players and making them leave

tall storm Oct 4, 2018, 6:16 AM

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I use it as a wariness for avatar effects. Nothing more.

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Actually saw a nuisance rank

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:16 AM

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nuisance rank should be the only one displayed

tall storm Oct 4, 2018, 6:17 AM

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The rest I just go on progressive trust for effects. Of course friends always get priority

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:18 AM

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Well... All I know is I will try to use this opportunity to approach visitors/new users, and try to make them feel welcome despite what they get from other players

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:20 AM

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My rank is "user" I wonder if it has anything to do with purging all the people that don't play anymore on my friends list

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:20 AM

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I don't think so

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:20 AM

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my acct is over a year old

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:20 AM

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I think only the initial friend request and acceptance is counted

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What about any content? Avatars or world's?

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:21 AM

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I have like 12 avatars, no worlds

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kind of ridiculous if the game forces us to do certain things to make rank anyways

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:22 AM

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it does not force you to do anything other then keep playing without beeing anoying / break rules

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:22 AM

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I've never broken a rule ¯_(ツ)_/¯

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:23 AM

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i wonder if speaking my opinion is a rule breaker

subtle prawn Oct 4, 2018, 6:23 AM

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😮

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:23 AM

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i can count at least a dozen blocked me because i spoke my opinion out

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:23 AM

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If it is... I'm hooped

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I mean if they count being vote kicked against you

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people can easily exploit that and fuck over new people even harder

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:24 AM

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they count it in a specific way tho

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:24 AM

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I usually support the development team... But this I just can't get behind... Seen too much wrong with it

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:24 AM

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in what specific way?

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:24 AM

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well, the exact algorithm is unknown but one or two users blocking / muting you wont do anything

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different if a whole room blocks you

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:25 AM

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That would be EXTREMELY impressive coding to tell the difference between a good kick and a bad kick

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where are you pulling this from?

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are you just making this up? lol

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:25 AM

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...

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:25 AM

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Thats as much as i know from the persons who should know how it works cirMini

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Nice vrclike

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:26 AM

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not having it this way would be stupid

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:26 AM

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So you dont think groups of trolls

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will exploit this?

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lol

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:27 AM

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a group of trolls going around instances playing nice then blocking a single person and doing that again and again with different accounts with the same person?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:27 AM

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not many people are going to be like "i'm superior than you because i have higher rank" or "im not going to be your friend because you are just a new user"

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:27 AM

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The problem with making systems that remove assholes is they never work and the main user base are the only ones that really feel anything

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:27 AM

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i doubt anyone puts in close to that efford unless it's really a big motivation

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:28 AM

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oh man

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you don't know trolls then XD

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:29 AM

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ive seen a couple of the people mentioned there

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:29 AM

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People were going around trying to figure out how many hours members had and what rank they were

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:29 AM

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the whole room literally just blocked the person and i was just there laughing at the back

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Of course this isn’t exactly

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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yeah

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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But people with 250+ hours were mostly orange

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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I experienced the same

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Oh well, this will all play out itself lol

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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Visitor tried to join a room. Instantly kicked and got laughed at

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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^^^

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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That is not how we want to introduce people to the game

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:30 AM

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day one i knew this goin happen

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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As far as trolls not going the extra mile. When you put a rule system in place... THEY GO THE MILE lol

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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i mostly stayed at 1 map for the whole day, and visitors are never kicked on my end tho

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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I have like 43 avatars and I’m still user so ya know

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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Same, but user is ok... wont get kicked or anything

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/can-we-address-the-discrimination-against-visitors-and-new-users

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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im not sure if that would even be a reporting reason cirThink

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:31 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/9kv2xz/discussion_the_new_rank_system_ruins_the_game/

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:32 AM

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If you’re user or above, you should be good

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I was watching stream earlier though to see what ranks were the most people and most people were already orange and purple

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:32 AM

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problem people will think with ranks even try protect it lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:32 AM

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The point is there shouldn't be a "you should be good"

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the trolls won lol

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:32 AM

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fun fact a visitor should be the safest

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cant upload

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no stealing

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cirBaka

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:32 AM

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Ikr

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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"safest" and elitist mentality are two different things lol

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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first thing steal not rank problem it client problem there

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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that is true Bromius

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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Humans love groups.. clans.. when you put a system like this in place there WILL be discrimination

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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i have never been kicked over few months of playing though

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:33 AM

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played vrchat for the whole day, never saw anyone getting kicked for their rank, its rather that people who look down on low rank users would get mocked

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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I played for an hour and saw at least 3-4 people kicked on different servers and then I quit out

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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because thats obviously an act of an asshole

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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The point keeps going over your head lol

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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i think most people want avoid rank system because basic that was school life is now. it in vrchat

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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really not sure if that can be counted as discrimination and thus be a reportable behaviour cirThink

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:34 AM

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really?

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can i attend your birthday party?

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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I'm getting a sense of fanboyism from Fpaul lol

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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It’s almost like a self-disappointment thing. Being green might not matter to other people, but I almost feel like people may look down on me? Like if they’re in a group of orange/purple people, I feel like I’m almost not welcomed

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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yes

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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But then again people may just put green as default

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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hmm? cirPrise @trail rapids

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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i get that feeling too

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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I don’t know it’s probably me just over thinking it

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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I get that feeling as well

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:35 AM

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but i am quite sure i was overthinking

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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best to be green

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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An extreme fan or follower of a particular medium or concept, whether it be sports, television, film directors, video games (the most common usage), etc.

Known for a complete lack of objectivity in relation to their preferred focus. Usually argue with circular logic that they refuse to acknowledge. Arguments or debates with such are usually futile. Every flaw is spun into semi-virtues and everything else, blown to comedic, complimentary proportions.

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Like I was already shy to just walk into a public world and talk to strangers, now I gotta talk to people who I know are higher ranks than I am

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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On that note I'm out, peace people 😛

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Bye cirComfy

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(And no cirBaka )

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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Nani

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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lol

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:36 AM

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it is like i know most of the people won't give a shit about me being green, but my insecurity still kicks in

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:37 AM

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I was also reading comments on forums and such of people saying, “if they’re green or lower, I shut everything off except voice and avatar”

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That’s how I feel ^^

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:37 AM

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You mean because fpaul has to keep a professional attitude as a mod.... Wouldn't exactly call that fanboyism. Lol

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he shared his experience so other person told him my experience just the same, get called fanboy @trail rapids

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I am orange guy and personally dont care if plr gray/blue/etc.
Probably +-50% players feel like they got power/priority from orange/purple nametag, thus acting like that

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epic logic

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GWrverifyRoDab

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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well rank will make people think that way

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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Tbh I didn’t wanna go into a public lobby tonight after watching streams

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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it nature for human mind to think that

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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I’ll try again tomorrow

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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@viral yacht if youre still on you could join my public i guess

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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reason rank should be avoid

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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the place where i am all the time are all logical people

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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That’s very kind of you, but I’m already in bed

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Thanks for the offer though!

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:38 AM

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welp lol

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if people paid attention to vrc pictures most of the time they know im always at nier automata lol

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24/7 nier map is like

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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hasnt run into peeps being against "low ranks" but did run into someone talking down on non-VR users lol

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:39 AM

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mostly the trolls got trolled lol

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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vr master race

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I’m sure after seeing feedback and comments about the system they’ll tweak it more

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/vrchat-bring-back-veteran-2018

Isn't Trusted User Veteran now?
Where is the reason to bring it back when it's replaced by another rank?

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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imagine how going down the hill the playerbase are if theres only vr users

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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i think we have enough ranks lol

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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@kindred sand sorry for leaving you behind earlier, i just got blasted with a whole lotta knowledge and need to recover

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I mean if it causes such problems to new users and visitors, almost bullying, they’ll have to change something

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:41 AM

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the big question that always remains is.
is that really the kind of peopel you want to spend time with? (Even tho that it definitely is not a good impression especially for new players)

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:41 AM

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im pretty sure somewhere in everyones friends list theres a couple of desktop users there

near sky Oct 4, 2018, 6:41 AM

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Question to all. I've yet to spend much time since update outside of private worlds with close mates. How often are any of you experiencing rank reminders (outside of joking around of course), and how many seem to let this go to their head?

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I'm quite cynical myself, but my assumption has been this would affect people in how they rank themselves in their head, (in a social hierarchy that isn't really spoken about) and come out less obviously and more in confidence and first-impressions.

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:41 AM

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I will block people who act like they are superior to me because of their rank

Worst people i know of ''I'm better than you because ive played the game more'' mentality

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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so far, never

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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I guarantee all my worries are just in my head

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@near sky none, and im in public from i wake up till i go to bed

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Thinking I’ll be looked down on

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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I haven't experienced it yet though

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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I’m sure there’s a few that’ll think they’re the best, but that ain’t the point

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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@twin jacinth like the 1k hours people who have over half of them from idle / sleep cirBaka

near sky Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Good you haven't had any issues

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Aye FPa¨ul xD

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:42 AM

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just curious

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what is the best map to sleep?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Which I have to disagree with that question of "do you want to spend time with people like that" because people want to fit in. And if someone is making a show or is a bit more forceful, others will side with them and act like jerks even if that is not their nature.

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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@thick flare mine :V

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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any compfy map with a bed you like @thick flare

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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nier?

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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yiss lol

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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sounds like a good idea

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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Dont sleep in vr :(((

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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perfect lullaby

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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That mentally spreads like cancer

near sky Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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We are creatures with social hierarchy already built into us.

ruby needle Oct 4, 2018, 6:43 AM

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i do also recommend against sleeping in vr tho.

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maybe as a experiement but on a regular basis it is harmfull in many ways

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to your hardware, and to you

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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@thick flare if you found the easter egg in the map im very sure youll sleep in wonders lol

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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i am sleeping in desktop :\

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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cant control all people think with rank system here going be people worry about talk other people as well

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even purple might be scare to talk to you to

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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what easter egg?

near sky Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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@raven silo What do you mean? Was hard to follow

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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i used to visit that map a lot

near sky Oct 4, 2018, 6:44 AM

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Can't control that they think with the rank system?

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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theres 4 clickable flowers in the map, if you click them in order, it will change the song, and the flying things in the sky @thick flare

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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I fell asleep in vr for 1 hour
worst experience ive had in a while, i was just so tired after being up to long and fell asleep listening to Kyle's covers on youtube >.<
Head hurt, feet, hands oof

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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oh, have no idea about that

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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i mean there people who like avoid be rank all togther

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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what are the negative effects of sleeping in vr?

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to your body i mean

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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it is bad for your neck

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Neck hurts

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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negative thought come from rank system dont have value

astral cliff Oct 4, 2018, 6:45 AM

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Haven't yet bumped into any discrimination over rank but a few in my usual group have noticed it

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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Or you just wake up with a steaming hot headset

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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@thick flare clues are on the big light and the boxes near the little drawing(this one only shows if you click all the flowers randomly tho)

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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better off with no rank system just keep the setting only

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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A colorblind mode might be nice, without going and disabling nameplates completely. but it might be fun to try turning off nameplates more often

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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pretty sure youll find it soothing once you figure it out

umbral oracle Oct 4, 2018, 6:46 AM

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it's also a bit more immersive without names floating above people's heads

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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oh the neck, i thought it was more about electric waves or something

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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Or you just get woken by a loli jumping on your face

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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isn't that a good thing?

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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OK

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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That's a rather nice thing?
Haha

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:47 AM

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I AGREE THATS A GOOD THING

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HAHAHAHAHAH

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that comment literally made my day

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 6:48 AM

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GWrverifyRoDab

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:48 AM

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I wish there was a way to see your friends rank on the website or in the social tab

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I’m curious but to lazy to actually get on

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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when yer using vr, does the game screen still show on the computer monitor and on the headset at the same time

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:V

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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speaking of rank

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i need this to happen

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https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/player-groups-guilds-or-circles

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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Yes it does but it's super blurry on desktoo

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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oooh

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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il be honest, im still a green rank because i have only been using a vr account for like 200ish hours

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:49 AM

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But if you turn on the stream camera it shows the cam view

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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if my steam account was counted im pretty sure i wouldve been trusted

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cause i have 800 hours on that

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Hold up

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I use a VR account but

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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It's something to do with playtime
Friends
Avatar
Worlds

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Are the hours it shows on steam my steam hours or VR hours?

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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that explains

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i am mostly a mute

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:50 AM

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Tbh can’t remember if I even played on steam

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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i played with my steam account for half a year

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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I just figured my steam and my vrchat account is both user

got 400 on steam and 200 on vrc

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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for nothing

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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i have heard rumors that actively talking counts as well

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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I'm a mute

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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Is there a way to check the different hour amounts between the two?

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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boi i always do talk

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nah

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i just count it seperate

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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tfw you get blasted with the hot avatar model protips rapidly and youre frothing in new potential

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:51 AM

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No there's not but i got a vauge idea of when i switched over to vrc account

night lava Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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my head hurts

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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I think the best way to use trusted rank Is to just walk around as default avatar

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😂 👌

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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I honestly don’t remember

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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i have 1100 hours now and i have been using my steam account for the last 800

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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I think I made a VR account almost instantly

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So imma just say that all the hours that shows on my steam is VR account hours

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423608738692333569/494345145869795328/VRChat-Rankings-v2_1.gif

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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that could do

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:52 AM

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@raven silo lmao

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Me

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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DAS GOOD MEME

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Tbh I don’t think I would have been so bummed about green if I wasn’t demoted

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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only has like 30-40 something hours and i'm counted as new user lol

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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If I had always been green, in beta and normal game I probably would have felt better

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:53 AM

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Technically it's kinda new

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Known user in beta = user in normal

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FeelsBadMan

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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yeah it is, just i prolly woulda had more if i didn't crash a lot lol

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Well I got demoted

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Feels bad too

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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people forgot about you thats why 😦

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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actuallly there should be another way to earn a rank

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Oof, right in the feelings

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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i love sleeping in vr

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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Bring back veteran rank

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tororo

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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hows it feel sleeping in VR

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:U

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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successfully reporting a player earns you rank point SalitySaltySenpai

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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you can fall asleep in any environment

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:54 AM

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people sleep in VR?

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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just all to yourself and your bae

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Really? I heard the opposite

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Don't do it
it's bad for ya

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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gonna clog up your pores lol

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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i don't care

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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already accidentally falls asleep in chair so

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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@safe prism How does it feel to sleep in an entirely different environment?

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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it's amazing

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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why worry about your real face when you want your vr face lol

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Sleeping in a busy map and waking up to be the only person left

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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Rumour had it that if you get blocked or kicked, you lose points. But also, apparently if you continuously block and kick other players you also lose points

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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i also get choked multiple times a day, it's probably not good for me either

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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I usually throw on Vitrual Desktop in bed and watch something and right when I feel myself zoning out / passing out I take the headset off

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 6:55 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Then again, it’s a rumour so probably not true

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 6:56 AM

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i think it dart board

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how they do it

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:56 AM

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@viral yacht i mean they should make it so that successfully reporting a player gives you rank point

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Ohhhh, okay

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:56 AM

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which is not exactly how it is

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turn us all into bounty hunter

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:57 AM

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it's not it only brings pain

I fell alseep once by accident and i regret it after lol
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/012/057/71d.gif

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:57 AM

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Idk how but I fell asleep a few limes in desktop

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:58 AM

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My vive makes my face red after 3-4 hours of playing. I can't imagine 8-10 hours of sleeping with it and the gravity is straight to yo face o_o

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:58 AM

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Not if you sleep sideways

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:58 AM

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but the loli jump might make it worth it

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it is a price i am willing to pay

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:58 AM

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I can't sleep sideways with VR my wireless headphones are 2 big >_<

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 6:58 AM

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I have also been woken to people singing me a lullaby

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 6:59 AM

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Fuck Teito
That's so true might ''accidentally'' fall asleep again o.O

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 6:59 AM

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i am just worry about my graphic card

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running vr non stop for 8 hours

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 6:59 AM

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I leave vr on 24/7, no issues

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:00 AM

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Should be fine

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:00 AM

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(not vrchat) steamVR and virtual desktop

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:01 AM

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If your gpu dont overheat after 30 mins it should be fine to run it for 8-10 hours
i usually play vr for 8-10 hours in the weekends without problems

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 7:01 AM

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what gpu do you guys use?

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1080

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1080 here too

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1060

vocal shard Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1060

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1060..

neon flume Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1060

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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tbh gpu doesnt mean much shit here

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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1070 😮

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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If some guy comments rtx
I'm gonna low key cry

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 7:02 AM

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this game is like 60% cpu 40% gpu

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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ah okay i'm lookin at a future computer thats 1060 lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I think RTX is a bit to expensive for the performance boost it gives

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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940MX

sonic verge Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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even someone with a 720 could run this thing

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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2080 is not worth it tbh
waste of money xD

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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RTX wont fix vrchat problem lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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I'm waiting for 1080s to start selling for $300 on ebay 😛

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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currently using desktop mode on a radeon hd 3200 lol

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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Oof

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:03 AM

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my headset doesn't really mark on my face unless i put a LOT of pressure on it

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but i don't

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i sleep on my side usually

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also fbt and stuff

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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im white as fuck and got girly sensitive skin 😦

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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me too but

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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If vrc uses multiple cpu I'm getting a threadripper

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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it doesn't to enough affect to matter

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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I don't think it does

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I hear 4 cores preform better than 6 cores

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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it only focus one core

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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it does but extra threads are quick jobs

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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processing

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:04 AM

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When they get multi-threading working, I'm buying a VR headset

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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fastest single cores you can get

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e.g. 8700K

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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Overclock your single core to 5ghz

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tororo

safe prism Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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not a 1c cpu noo

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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@queen mango whats your gfx card? it's more dependent on that unless you have i really bad CPU

plush nymph Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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mines a quad core, but the cpu is too old lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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even an I5 will do

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:05 AM

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@trail rapids GeForce 940MX

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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GPU only good for send video to vr headset

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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Core i5-8250U

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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And gpu particles

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tororo

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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hmm

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don't think the 940mx would cut it

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not sure though

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keep in mind VR HAS to run at 90FPS constantly

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or you get physically ill

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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940 is not a vrcard
970 is the minumum i think

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:06 AM

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My RAM is at 4GB, pretty awful

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:07 AM

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@trail rapids i dont get ill

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use vr at 30fps didnt effect me in vrcht

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:07 AM

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you run under 90fps?

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oh god

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fuck no

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you're killing your eyes lol

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Man, you're kinda iffy when it comes to frames.

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:07 AM

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no it has to do with your brain not computer elitism lol

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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What?

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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1060
16GB
i-5

That's what you should get to run vr tbh
constant 90+frame in vrchat with models on is impossible in high populated worlds

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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i have strong stomach lol

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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the 90fps, its required for your brain to be onboard

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dunno how else to describe it :X

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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every ride on a boat

long venture Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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960 minimum

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For vr

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:08 AM

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Oof

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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yeah you're better off buying a whole new rig 😦

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Also, this is on my laptop

neon flume Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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Yeah, I don't think I've had genuine 90fps in any public world with more than a handful of avatars. ASW helps a lot for worlds other than the lag free box.

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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STEAMVR has a mode that saves reprojection

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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best to stay in low number people in vrchat get good frames

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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so if you're getting a bit under 90 it will correct for it

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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i dont even get 90+fps in a world with 20 people with models off
1080
6600k
16GB
Should explain itself

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:09 AM

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I never experience issues with my 1070 tho

neon flume Oct 4, 2018, 7:10 AM

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ayy 6600k friend. What are you clocked at?

raven silo Oct 4, 2018, 7:10 AM

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the people in your world make fps to drop jufo

tranquil vortex Oct 4, 2018, 7:10 AM

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Ppft

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6600

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6700k represent

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:10 AM

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i dont oc :(
haven't research it nuff

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stock atm

neon flume Oct 4, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Gotcha, that's a reasonable stance to take. I'd suggest looking into it because it's pretty easy to do with that cpu. I'm at 4.2GHz right now iirc.

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:11 AM

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Damn that's pretty good considering its 3.5 stock

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Is it still dangerous if you don't know what you're doing or does the CPU/GPU know to shut off now?

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and don't you need a motherboard that allows you to overclock your CPU in the bios?

twin jacinth Oct 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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it usually shuts down as far as ive heard

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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I havn't overclocked in like 4-5 years lol

neon flume Oct 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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Still a little dangerous afaik. You'll definitely want to run stability tests. I tried up to 4.4 but mine couldn't handle it with my existing cooling solution.

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 7:12 AM

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I struggle with frames so badly

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I always found if you're struggling with frames and you OC you're really push your card and it doesn't work out so well without additional cooling

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 7:13 AM

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I’ve read so many forums, watched video, etc. I have a 16 gb, i7-7700, gtx 1060 and it’s still bad in populated worlds

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:13 AM

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wtf, you should be fine

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:13 AM

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Populated

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:14 AM

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^doesn't have VR

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lol

queen mango Oct 4, 2018, 7:14 AM

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The high pop ones

viral yacht Oct 4, 2018, 7:14 AM

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I know, everyone and everything had told me I should be fine yet nothing has helped

trail rapids Oct 4, 2018, 7:14 AM

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I go high pop

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i have VR

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and my CPU is worse than yours

thick flare Oct 4, 2018, 7:14 AM

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i have the exact same spec