Could also be because I have the patience of a saint, two buddhas and a kami.
#vrchat-general-2
rough pulsar
vocal shard
I try to help people... And just bs through what I can. Lol
can i get some of the user-hate for the help i provide ? thanks
thick flare
send hates
umbral reef
Also YIL if I had my internship in my last year I would have gotten an job offer instantly once I had my degree and be the lowest and youngest person in the company while still getting full University pay 
That was fun to hear
@vocal shard just say things straight up
Also the Dutch way
vocal shard
i'm always saying things straight up
i usually get shit for it tho
I try to make everyone's happy... (And usually get sh*t on for it)
Sigh
Lol
umbral reef
Same 
It's how I get 99% of snarky comments or insults thrown at me
thick flare
really?
umbral reef
Butbey
It's easy life being straight up
Gets things finished a lot faster and it's not my problem most peeps can't handle 'grown up talk'
craggy hull
Is reset home button working? i clicked it then chose to go home, it sent me to the home world i had chosen before
vocal shard
Seems Jamie just wants Headpats after everything they do 🤔
twin jacinth
Someone tried the update yet?
what do you think?
i just barely managed to logg in before i had to work
near saffron
Yeah it’s good, i think menu lag has stopped/reduced and avatar changing also feels faster. Didn’t care much for the rank system so turned off all of the blocks.
twin jacinth
Very nice, looking forward to trying it when i get home :P
near saffron
Full body breaking did kinda ruin first impressions with the update tho
fleet ice
on what is the user rank depending? my friends are trusted user and i'm known user, but i have for example worlds online and so on, the same playtime, avatars, and so on
umbral reef
There is no clear thing to rank up
Only thing we know for sure is that playing like a normal non toxic user (getting reported, blocked an insane amount and ect) makes you rank up at one point
fleet ice
ok then this system is in some situations complete bullshit, e.g. some people block you instantly if you use knuckle avatars, and this is not my fail! this is the fail of racist people in the game
vocal shard
It's a bit random it seems... Best not to care about the ranks much
fleet ice
yea probably.....
umbral reef
Also it should learn that users who block often should just be judged as much as people who almost never block someone
But thats end game goals for an system like this
tacit plank
If you frequently block people I think that they should be weighted less
But it's probably not a priority to calibrate such things right now
wind gate
i have 8700k+1080ti. should i update my cpu or graphics card to get higher fps in vrchat.
tacit plank
I don't recommend it. If something works I'm not going to touch it
I'm running like 2014 drivers still
And I would only recommend a i9 if it has single-core performance close to that of your i7. As I see it they're just adding more cores, but single-core games like VRChat might actually perform worse on them
umbral reef
i9 are not needed unless you do heavy editing and stuff... For basic gaming they are not worth it imo
And 2080- It can be worth it depending what you have now but as you got an TI its not worth it
The TI performs super close on most games and at a tiny handfull even better with tests
tacit plank
I tink a 1080ti can run anything which is out perfectly, btw. If you want your system to be faster you would get a M2 SSD or a good quad channel ram package (quad channel ram makes your other components perform a little better)
umbral reef
^
tacit plank
Or if you have lots of money, 64GB ram so that you can ramdisk stuff. It's fun
My brother ran MC in a ramdisk, he used speedhacks to fly 100s of blocks every second, but the world just loaded it like it was nothing
twin jacinth
Oof
Ranks
I'm a User on my vrc account and known user on my steam lol xD
change over after 400 hours ish
safe prism
8700K is gonna run this game the best
twin jacinth
Yeah 8700k is more than enough for vrc tbh
wind gate
20
safe prism
nothing you can do, every other CPU is slower than the 8700K per core
and this game only really does most things on one
tacit plank
With too many players, you will lag. It's just too much for one CPU core
Your GPU is likely snoring still
Good quad channel ram should improve your performance a bit though. Same would overclocking + watercooling your CPU
Also, disabeling nameplates and making sure that your own avatar is fairly optimized (1 mesh, texture atlassed)
latent gate
how do you check what kind of user you are?
vocal shard
@tacit plank VRchat uses 4 cores.
raven silo
vrchat only use 1 core
vocal shard
100 dollars says it uses 4
raven silo
2nd core for network
vocal shard
as you reduce core count
tacit plank
A few things in VRchat can used by other cores
tacit plank
But I think that all the main things use the same core
raven silo
vrchat not program for 4 mutlithreading
vocal shard
no, it uses all 4 cores
it is multi threaded
just not very well done
it doesn't scale beyond 4 cores
i tested it
with 1 core i was down to like, 25fps when i should have 90
or something like that
raven silo
reason not program for more 1 core in mind
tacit plank
It might have one for network and 1 for rendering the scene and 2 f or some other shit
vocal shard
right
tacit plank
I'm sure it's still trashing one core, and that it's limited by core performance
vocal shard
but it's not single threaded
single threaded implies it ONLY uses one cpu core
which is false
tacit plank
I think the main game things are single-core, but I gues you're right
vocal shard
a single threaded work load will not function on more than 1 core
the game itself is multi threaded but very poorly
thick flare
i actually saw a thread on reddit about someone having a hard time socializing with people with higher rank
vocal shard
honestly i think i'm gonna just click the "make my name green" button
raven silo
mostly like it happen
tranquil vortex
Higher rank?
raven silo
rank will change people
vocal shard
elitism
tranquil vortex
That social guard shit thing
twin jacinth
Just keep away from those
the ''i'm superior because my rank is good''
If they are like that you're better off not talking to them
vocal shard
i agree though. if someone is like that, they're better off just being blocked
tranquil vortex
Dude
vocal shard
don't need that kind of toxicity around
the "i am holier than thou cause i am purple"
tranquil vortex
I don't care if people are considered a nuisance but they're fun af
twin jacinth
^
vocal shard
VRChat promoting discrimination through colored ranks XD
tacit plank
I allow custom animation for like regular user and up. Particles from new user and up, avatar sounds for the last 2 ranks
tranquil vortex
I guess being with the "low" people just makes you not care
And just just enjoy yourself and not worry about it
raven silo
dont matter i have particle set off to eveyone lol
tacit plank
The alternative to blocking things basing on ranks is just blocking every avatar by default
raven silo
your all the same to me
vocal shard
honestly there's no reason to reveal what rank a certain person is
just block stuff based on rank
and boom
near saffron
What if I’m made of particles tho
soft skiff
Vive wireless units showed up to the shop today
tacit plank
Why have particles off? If you use the particle filter, you can't really be crashed by it
soft skiff
I can rollerskate in VR finally
vocal shard
who cares what rank other people are if you're just blocking people's stuff based on what rank they are
no need to be able to see it
no reason i mean
tacit plank
You will need to know their rank though
vocal shard
no you don't
tacit plank
To know why you can't see their shader
tranquil vortex
I prefer not to have the rank shit
vocal shard
just do custom rank blocking
tranquil vortex
It's like saying "I like to have fun but not everyone agrees"
raven silo
just set to green
vocal shard
YOU dont need to see their rank
tacit plank
Or to avoid confusing when they ask you how their animation is or whatever
raven silo
then we all be green
vocal shard
to be able to have the system block it
@raven silo that's what i'm gonna do anyways
i like green tags
near saffron
Preferred old white
tranquil vortex
Im going to block trusted players and allow the "toxic" players to do whatever because it seems fub
tacit plank
They removed vet and people are still complaining
vocal shard
honestly I wish I could choose custom colors for the UI
raven silo
dont matter remove veterans trusted be take it place lol
tranquil vortex
Like, I don't need to know what y'all royal ass mf's do, I like to have fun
shy nest
"muh veteran, how else will i show superiority over everyone else"
vocal shard
then i could make nameplates a deep red so dark maps are easier when i have nameplates on
tacit plank
It's more of a "world creator" tag
twin jacinth
Yeah i want a red nameplate
That'd be cool
vital rune
oh, a vrchat update
tacit plank
Red is probably reserved
raven silo
red for admin in vrchat
vital rune
let's see if this was better than the other major update that is considered a catastrophe
tranquil vortex
How do I get the worst rank
vocal shard
i mean local customization
near saffron
Wish I could control transparency on nameplates, don’t like to turn em off but they can be crowed sometimes
vocal shard
@tranquil vortex log in with steam
tranquil vortex
Lmao
tacit plank
No updates are considered a catastrophe
shy nest
I feel like known is just "upload a fuckload of models regardless of quality or optimization"
vocal shard
i think i'm purple.
shy nest
because there is someone I know that has like 1/5th of my time and they're known while im user
twin jacinth
my steam account is known user lol
my vrc is just user
🤔
thick flare
i think there is a nuisance rank
raven silo
just mean need play more vrc accont lol
thick flare
probably should aim for that
raven silo
you get troll icon
cold talon
Be a dik and get nuisance rank
tranquil vortex
Sounds easy enough
cold talon
tranquil vortex
And it's fun doing so
tacit plank
If you want it, change to knuckles and play music
twin jacinth
i'm doing it :((((
rank does not matter for me, i mostly play with my friends and not that much in public
i do make some friends once in a while in public but most comes from friends friends
tranquil vortex
Go around and say ni🅱:b:a a lot
shy nest
👀
raven silo
well stay with friend you all yellow
cold talon
Or change to an ava that has one billboard particle, bet blocked by thousans, ez rank drop
tacit plank
I think you guys got so fixated on ranks that you stopped thinking
raven silo
when see new person make him yellow to friend him lol
tranquil vortex
Noice
tacit plank
Surely, making new or more friends is also a goal
tranquil vortex
This rank Bs is the VRCTeams excuse to not work on essential things for the game
shy nest
easier to do that then act like i care about them
tacit plank
And the troll rank might disable things even if you're friended, but I'm not 100% on that
delicate coral
with them turning the friends into the yellow rank, makes the little friend icon completaly meaningless
cold talon
It does from what i know
tacit plank
"Essential things" 80% of all VRChat complains are lag, trolls and crashers. This system improves on all 3
cold talon
It disables your ava for everyone
shy nest
ehh not much with lag
rigid crescent
Yeah, I'm not really sure why but I'm lagging from the menu way less
cold talon
The thing is how do you get out of nuisance
vocal shard
Did those morons fix full body yet?
tranquil vortex
You wanna find out for us?
tacit plank
Disabling shaders and particles will improve FPS, even if only the steam users are affected for you
cold talon
shy nest
with the game basically running solely on one core its still ass
rigid crescent
PC imporvements don't fix trolls or crashers, and even higher end PCs lag in this game due to poor optimization
and that
tranquil vortex
Who cares about trolls
tacit plank
Best VRChat compatible hardware in the world won't get you past 20FPS in a room with 40 people
tranquil vortex
What do you do about them in real life?
rigid crescent
A majority of users.
tacit plank
^
cold talon
Wait isnt the ik system and voice on another thread
tranquil vortex
You go somewhere else or just ignore them
shy nest
or pop em in the snout
tacit plank
IK is too?
rigid crescent
LEt me just ignore the guy who crashed my game, or shakes my screen
rigid crescent
why do I fall for such bad bait lol
tacit plank
I wonder how it's maxing out a core then. What the hell is it doing?
tranquil vortex
I meab
cold talon
Thats what i heard, but never checked
rigid crescent
You can't ignore a person who crashed you in a public room if you don't even know who it is
This system is aimed at preventing it before it happens
tacit plank
CPUs do like a few billion operations per second
tranquil vortex
You kinda know tho
rigid crescent
How?
thick flare
only after being crashed
tranquil vortex
That's why you look around?
rigid crescent
LOL
tranquil vortex
thick flare
from the output log
tacit plank
Valley you clearly haven't played much
tranquil vortex
See, teito knows what's up
tacit plank
People can go invisible, or crash you after they're blocked with network packets
thinking you can block someone that isnt in the same room
rigid crescent
Not realizing you can
tranquil vortex
But you actually can?
tacit plank
You can, but you'd need to know that they're there, but you won't because they don't show up in the social tab
tranquil vortex
Hmmm
shy nest
I've never been able to block anyone outside of the room im in
tranquil vortex
If only the game wasn't free
cold talon
Send shutdown magic packet to vrc server 
tranquil vortex
shy nest
super silly ngl
rigid crescent
You can do it from the website, but yeah
thick flare
delete system32
rigid crescent
Still hard if you don't know who did it.
tranquil vortex
I get it wouldn't be as big if the game wasnt free
rigid crescent
this prevents a lot of issues before they happen
shy nest
who the shit uses the site
shy nest
wtf
rigid crescent
I do? helps me see who's on before I log on, if my goal is just relaxing at friends
tranquil vortex
Ask the friends around you to tell you who it is
tacit plank
People have better things to do than trying to use a website while in VR
shy nest
expecting me to have friends
there is a fatal flaw in that valley
cold talon
Peps dont use the website? 
rigid crescent
lol you're bad at playing devil's advocate
tacit plank
Your friends can't see invisible users either. And you can't tell which player every network packet comes from, Valley. You have no idea what you're talking about. Trolls are no longer just using crash particles on guns
tacit plank
How would you when you're crashed?
tranquil vortex
Relaunch the game
rigid crescent
We have to memorize public room numbers, duh
shy nest
but why would you relaunch the game
rigid crescent
They're just trolling though, leave em be and let them rot
tacit plank
It goes from a seemingly harmless room, to you seeing your desktop. There is no in-between, no indicator that you should leave
rigid crescent
they'll get tired when they run out of people responding caffeine
tacit plank
I guess it might be a troll, I just assumed they were retarded until now
tacit plank
Since stupid people are very common
tranquil vortex
I mean honestly
If a troll targets you, you're doing some in particular that they don't enjoy
They don't... Necessarily pick people at random
thick flare
most trolls target people randomly
tranquil vortex
I mean some do
rigid crescent
Don't feed them teito lol
near saffron
Yeah from what I’ve seen it’s random a lot
tranquil vortex
But why get a reaction from one guy, when you can get a reaction from like 10 people
Trust ke
I used to do that stuff
thick flare
i mean most of the time when i am crashed i am just idling : \
tacit plank
Many just crash the entire instance
tacit plank
How surprising
twin jacinth
They might do something and then look at people's reaction and pick the person they think will react the most to what they are doing 🤷
Depends on the person
tranquil vortex
Yeah, pretty much
It's not really fun when it's just one guy that you're not going to know what happened
But TBH, it just wasn't fun after a while
tacit plank
How does it feel to be a net negative on society?
thick flare
quite fun when i was a dumb ass teen
tranquil vortex
But than it went away
raven silo
reason dont put rank on social app
tranquil vortex
Yeah right?
tacit plank
Ranks are not the issue
People like Valley are the issue
And people like Valley will never get a good rank in VRChat if all they enjoy doing is messing with other people
thick flare
i am sure a lot of us went through the asshole period
raven silo
people like be jocks even if they hate jocks in high school
tacit plank
I didn't
tacit plank
I know, you were too slow
thick flare
you don't know what you are missing🤢
shy nest
I mean ngl thats probably bullshit caffeine
civic plume
oof my friend is a nuisance
near saffron
I used to be annoying but never did any of that crash shit/block everyone’s screens
tacit plank
Why would I be an asshole to people?
civic plume
he is triggered bad
shy nest
because even if you arent aware of it you've probably done it before
so you can't say you haven't been an asshole to people
tranquil vortex
I don't necessarily just mess with people, but like I enjoy just seeing how far I can go with stuff
civic plume
what we chatting about?
tranquil vortex
Some people absolutely just go with it and love it
tacit plank
Every person I meet has the potential to be my best friend
tranquil vortex
Others hate it and just stop
twin jacinth
How do you check how many people you've been blocked by again?
tranquil vortex
I don't think you can?
vocal shard
The API
tranquil vortex
Ahh
near saffron
There’s a site
tranquil vortex
Noicr
vocal shard
Go to the vrchat dot net site
thick flare
tranquil vortex
Caffeine is just upset because someone was just ruud to him once
civic plume
what do you guys think of this trust system, im actually interested to see opinions
tranquil vortex
Like chill my guy
cinder pier
U could use this one too http://snep.pw/friends/pmodparser.php
tranquil vortex
😘
raven silo
maybe need to ban to get troll icon
thick flare
i don't like it, but i see the point of it
tranquil vortex
Same
vocal shard
I wonder if any of the issues have been fixed...
civic plume
i agree
tranquil vortex
Nope
twin jacinth
Got it nice
civic plume
i dont like it but i know its there for a reason
tacit plank
The trust system is great
vocal shard
I dont like the rank system either
civic plume
im kind of glad in a way too
shy nest
ngl these sites look dodgy asf
civic plume
i am trusted i think 
raven silo
maybe should add rank on vrchat.com webpage
vocal shard
I didn't even bother updating lol
meager solstice
I mean the trust system is kinda useful
raven silo
so check your friends lol
tacit plank
The alternative is just blocking everyone, so this is neccessary
vital rune
this trust system, eh pretty mixed
cinder pier
They only parse API output
vocal shard
All my models broke
tranquil vortex
Caffeine, lmao chill
vocal shard
And the game will break their necks regardless
tacit plank
I'm always chill, stop trolling
vocal shard
Actually
tranquil vortex
I'm not trolling, you're just too sensitive
vocal shard
We shouldve yeeted the trust system
civic plume
relax fam
tranquil vortex
civic plume
before i ping all the staff
tranquil vortex
YEET
civic plume
raven silo
@vocal shard need remove legacy animations
civic plume
and get us all fucked
tranquil vortex
Heck yes
civic plume
lol
tranquil vortex
vocal shard
No, put it as a customization for the block system
rigid parcel
I hate the new crouch animation.
civic plume
if staff see this i am jokingh
tacit plank
Whatever you're doing it's lowering the quality of the chat and preventing serious discussions
rigid parcel
pls fix
vocal shard
No need for stupid ranks and useless drawcalls
tranquil vortex
Kek
civic plume
IM IN GAME AND I CROUCHED TOO SEE
raven silo
we are talk about vrchat
civic plume
FUUUUUUCK
vocal shard
NaRUTO CROUCH RISE UP
civic plume
THIS IS FUNNY XDDDDDDDD
tacit plank
Crouch is fun, prone camera is kind of bad though
vocal shard
Oh yes prone cam
tranquil vortex
cold talon
YOUR CAPS LOOK SEEMS TO BE BROKEN
tacit plank
I'm trying to see panties, but instead the camera goes into my head
vocal shard
Where you can see inside of your body and have 90% of your sight blocked by your own hands eh
tacit plank
Could you guys be retarded in #general-media instead?
civic plume
lmao
tranquil vortex
Can you not be so uptight?
vocal shard
The prone animation sucks
raven silo
next update need to be new user enter this world lol
vocal shard
Its a rifle prone
shy nest
"I'm trying to see panties, but instead the camera goes into my head" you legit just said this
agile holly
Don't use that R word it's offensive
civic plume
the anims are funny
shy nest
cmon fam
tacit plank
I'm sorry that I value something else than acting retarded or spamming memes, Valley
tranquil vortex
C'mon fam
vocal shard
tranquil vortex
It's not that bad
civic plume
tranquil vortex
civic plume
i just said not to use the R word thanks
vocal shard
We are discussing vrchat so we kind of belong here
civic plume
yes
civic plume
i came here to ask what you all think of the trust system
tranquil vortex
It kinda sucks
tacit plank
Maybe you'd feel better if you developed your own personality and didn't just mimic other people hoping to feel like you're part of something
tranquil vortex
But I see why it's there
agile holly
I like it it makes sense
vocal shard
I hate it with the power of a thousand suns
raven silo
rank make chaos
twin jacinth
it has it flaws and it has it good sides
civic plume
and you came here to call us retards and go to #general-media
vocal shard
It's like china made the system for them
tranquil vortex
Noice
civic plume
hah
cold talon
This chat is split in ao many directions
tranquil vortex
Caffeine, maybe you should just let loose sometimes and just go with it
cold talon
rigid crescent
its nice, enjoyong pubs much more
tacit plank
The problem with Chinas system is that criticising the government will endanger your life
vocal shard
No really look into the social credit system
agile holly
The only thing I don't like is shaders is separate from avatars, like, I just end up seeing scuffed opaque avatars for the lower ranked users.
vocal shard
The similarities are shocking
tranquil vortex
China Taiwan number 1
twin jacinth
China number 1
tacit plank
In VRChat you will only get a bad rank if everyone hates you, and only get a good rank if you contribute to the game
vocal shard
Also please expand the shader whitelist
civic plume
@agile holly you can change this stuff for different ranks though? 🤔
vocal shard
You can just disable anyone below trusted
shy nest
spam upload models* (in known users case lmao)
vocal shard
Only PURPLES in my box thx
tranquil vortex
I don't want disabled people
vocal shard
/s yo
cold talon
Hope the exclusion mentality doesent catch on
tranquil vortex
Already is man
agile holly
Yeee I know but then you risk the newer people thinking it's funny to spam shader effects. I wish they could just enable shaders on avatars and have it separate settings but that would probably be too hard to implement.
tacit plank
It doesn't exist
tacit plank
No, you're all just assuming that everyone will hate you for not being veteran
tranquil vortex
cold talon
I mean people are meming about it yes
civic plume
raven silo
Green the way to go
vocal shard
Caffeine talk to some people without being conceding and then provide input
cold talon
But some might take it the wrong way
vocal shard
Also vet is gone
vocal shard
So you dont know what you're talking about
tacit plank
It's still in the API, but trusted,then
vocal shard
So?
near saffron
Thank god it’s gone ingame
tacit plank
My point remains
vocal shard
Some people are gonna discriminate
tranquil vortex
^
vocal shard
We live in a world where people divide each other based on skin color genes
tacit plank
Well, everyone here are like "I'm going to allow every other user because discrimination is bad!"
civic plume
man this crouch anim is just killing me
tacit plank
So why do you assume it's different in game?
tranquil vortex
People discriminate for any reason, whether it be skin, social status, or...well... A rank in a shitty game
cold talon
User discriminating everyone below trusted 
vocal shard
Because we come from shit experiences in game?
raven silo
we need Anime rank, furry Rank, Realstic rank lol
queen mango
Oh noes
vocal shard
Furry rank
near saffron
No
tranquil vortex
Furry rank = auto block
shy nest
😂 
cold talon
Jazneo yesss
supple python
I heard somone say "This is discrimination" and looked at them with their trusted tag on and just laughed
queen mango
Anime Rank = 78% gets a promotion
agile holly
I'm waiting for K/D to be implemented for the crash guns. Ya'll better be ready.
civic plume
;p;
tranquil vortex
Lmaooo
civic plume
lol
tranquil vortex
Dude
tacit plank
I have 1400 hours. When I asked my friends if they wanted to know how to rank up easily they just told me "It's fine I don't really care for the system"
tranquil vortex
Yes
civic plume
dead
tranquil vortex
Who the fuck cares about your hours no one asked you
civic plume
i have 1080 hours
thorn compass
Yay for social ladders!
civic plume
i am happy i have 1080ti
vocal shard
I have 30
thick flare
i want to know
tranquil vortex
Same nig
thick flare
fuck the greens
vocal shard
civic plume
wait 1060 im on drugs
tranquil vortex
Gang gang
civic plume
damn
tranquil vortex
Represent
civic plume
cold talon
Oi thats hurt me on an emotional level
tacit plank
I stated my hours because I obviously have experience with the game
vocal shard
Dab on the nontrusted
cold talon
Dont fuk the greens
raven silo
them rank would make more sense then color lol
vocal shard
Hahahah implying hours actually matter
queen mango
What the hell is going on?
tranquil vortex
Yeah, you have experience, but you still act like a condescending ass hole because of it
thorn compass
caffieeeeeeeeene, please stop.
tacit plank
So I can't take some new users crying about their ranks and assuming things seriously
vocal shard
Mate
tranquil vortex
Mate
vocal shard
I've been here since 2017
thorn compass
Mate
shy nest
?
vocal shard
new user
twin jacinth
I'm at 570
I'm green
but i changed from steam like after 400-450 hours
I SHOULD BE KNOWN REeeeee
vocal shard
Quite frankly
cold talon
Too bad hah
vocal shard
I don't know
tacit plank
How many hours have you played since then though? Account age doesn't match up with activity
vocal shard
I already said 30
queen mango
400 hrs
tranquil vortex
Having that many hours in a VR game is kind of sad
twin jacinth
It's a joke for those who didn't get it :D
tacit plank
They should allow specifying your steam account, so that it would combine stats with it
vocal shard
But I've used them in friend meetups only
thorn compass
What reflects is in a post they made.
vocal shard
Because publics are cancer
queen mango
Crashers, LAggers, Modders
twin jacinth
Yeah i think that'd be pretty nice caffeine
tacit plank
You have 30 hours?
tranquil vortex
Yeet on caffeine
vocal shard
Yes
olive mulch
holy shit
vocal shard
Got a problem?
tacit plank
That's like 2 sessions
olive mulch
i found someone thats edgyerr than me
vocal shard
2 sessions
raven silo
or remove steam feature make them link to vrchat.com tell them make account
tranquil vortex
Who is?
tacit plank
3 then
vocal shard
You edgy cunt
vocal shard
I can't help it if im running fucking intel graphics 3000 here
Because I'm still in school and have a life
cold talon
Shhh dont think about it
tacit plank
If you've barely played the game, why do you expect me to trust you when you say how VRChat users are?
twin jacinth
i never afk in vr unless im going bio/grab food
so i think almost 600 hours is pretty impressive
I also work full time 🤷
thorn compass
I am so confused on this logic, to the point I am laughing by confusion?
vocal shard
Unlike some of you jobless cunts who brag about 12 hours daily I actually make my hours worth
Not afk for 8 of them
Hurr durr I have 2001 hours
thorn compass
I trust people based off attitude and personality, not by stats or anything, thats a bias assumpton.
tacit plank
I have Japanese friends who literally work 12 hours every day, they're still around 1k hours
cold talon
Pfft i have 1000h and still new user
vocal shard
sleeps in vr
thick flare
bahka is a cancer in game
tranquil vortex
look at me, ive got a million hours, I'm da best and I kno everything hurrr
raven silo
sleep in vr afk
tacit plank
And it doesn't change the fact that you're barely experienced with the game
agile holly
1200+ hours and i'm visitor reeeeeeeeeee
vocal shard
Barely experienced?
median basalt
I don't get how people can sleep in VR
queen mango
Oof
tranquil vortex
Oof
vocal shard
How about you get off your high horse
tacit plank
If your experience of the game differes from mine, I'm obviously going to trust mine more
vocal shard
And fuck off
raven silo
i think i ripped cord or though the vr off my head
thorn compass
Caffiene, thats like judging a newb for being a new player, EVEN tho it states to be nice to them cause they are new?
cold talon
Oof bahka the cancer of vr
vocal shard
Yeah because youre a cunt
cold talon
Fear me
tacit plank
I'm not judging him for being new
median basalt
Dude, stop listening to caffeine. In case any of you missed it, he flat-out told me that our opinions on the trust system don't matter if we are not veterans.
thorn compass
You literally are.
tranquil vortex
That's literally what you doing
twin jacinth
30 hours is nothing
as i said im at almost 600 hours with barely no afk time
Working 8 hours a day and w/a social life
Many hours do not always mean afk time and no job 🤷
tacit plank
But if a new player wants to say "every VRChat player acts like this, and discriminates in this way" it doesn't have value
tranquil vortex
Kek
raven silo
one person sleep in vr for a year go to doctor find a tummer in his head
vocal shard
So because I have 30 hours
tacit plank
Because they don't know yet, they've yet to meet a lot of people
vocal shard
i have like...1400 hours in vrchat between my old steam account and current one
thorn compass
You are judeing by throwing all newbies into that catg
vocal shard
same vrc account though
All my game experience is automatically invalid?
I'm like someone who never touched the game?
tranquil vortex
Meeting 5,000 people is not any different than meeting like 50 in this fucking game
agile holly
Your blanket statement about veterans is invalid because of my blanket statement about new users
tacit plank
30 hours and "never touched the game" is just a rounding issue
cold talon
If you switch from steam to vrc account, yeas
olive mulch
lmao
cold talon
No u
vocal shard
Ahaha fuck
tacit plank
What you're doing is speaking for every VRChat user when you say how ranks works and who discriminates
vocal shard
I never said either of these though?
tacit plank
If you've barely played the game, isn't speaking for everyone a bit rude?
tranquil vortex
Okay, but if you played a shitload of hours, you probably shouldn't still be talking for everyone
vocal shard
I said people would discriminate because fucking human nature
tranquil vortex
^
thorn compass
caffiene, the point is. How you are validating them isn't correct. Its just so bias. That you lump everyone into a category and then completely distrust them, which causes the community to stay in those friends worlds, which literally killed this game with content.
vocal shard
I dont need to be a vrsavvy to know that
tacit plank
I shouldn't, but I can at least judge how people I meet are in general, without having so little data that it could be due to good or bad luck
olive mulch
what is even going on here
median basalt
@tacit plank if new users are being discriminated against, I would take the word of a new user for that.
tranquil vortex
I did a thing!
median basalt
This is like non-new users saying that new users aren't being discriminated against
It's incredibly easy to say
thorn compass
Having so much distrust then judging them based on the "experience" isnt what a social game is. Thats literally a MOBA rank idea.
olive mulch
i am uterly confused
tranquil vortex
Okay, I guess put it in this other way
vocal shard
Oh racism against blacks doesnt exist because whites said it doesnt
queen mango
What is this chatwreck?
median basalt
Oh boy here we go
civic plume
crashers in pug oof
median basalt
Several people are typing
tacit plank
I'm generally talking about low ranks, which many experienced people have. not just Steam or "new user", which are very brief ranks
near saffron
Just another day in the vrc discord
tranquil vortex
Take a person who has played Counter-Strike for like 50 hours and they're like fucking Global Elite, and another player who's got like 6000 hours who's only a silver 3 telling the player who's in global Elite what the game should be like
queen mango
WHAT IS THIS CHATWRECK?!
thorn compass
BRUH
vocal shard
So user is a brief rank?
median basalt
How do you know? The trust system is barely out caffeine
thorn compass
This is beyond repair OOF
twin jacinth
If someone with 1000 hours certificated about a certain thing comes up to you
And a person with 30 hours certificate comes to you
Who'd you trust?
It's kinda the same concept with someone who has gained a master degree vs someone who has a bachelor
Who do you trust more?
of course this does not apply to everything but this is at least my opinion, i'd trust the one with the higher certificate.
tranquil vortex
Okay, but we're not talking about any technical skills or anything
vocal shard
Evwn to the system
tranquil vortex
We're literally talking about human nature
tacit plank
If you're in desktop mode, a giant default robot avatar, a Steam user, have a bad mic, and go "omg a loli" when you see a kanna
vocal shard
The hours mean nothing to the algorithm
tacit plank
Yes, people will like you less
median basalt
@twin jacinth I get your point, but not in this particular case. The person with the bachelor is more qualified to speak about their experiences as a bachelor.
tranquil vortex
OMG a loli!!
civic plume
OMG A LOLI
olive mulch
nooooooooo
civic plume
OWO
vocal shard
IS DAT A LAWLI?!
tranquil vortex
uwu
agile holly
OMG A LOL UWU LEMME KISS IT
tacit plank
But that makes sense
vocal shard
@tacit plank that's still unrelated to hours bud, thats human personalities?
median basalt
"Lawli" is spot-on
civic plume
UWUUU
queen mango
WHAT IS GOING ON?!
vocal shard
Like
olive mulch
im calling the cops
thorn compass
Thats on those types of people, but throwing all new users into that, literally is horrible in a SOCIAL game.
vocal shard
Loli's. Loli's as far as the eye can see @queen mango
Do you assume people get molded into some image of you the higher they rank?
tacit plank
It's not a personality, it's just being new
vocal shard
No
tranquil vortex
okay, I'm going to be straight up, when I first started playing the game, I felt like left out in a little discriminated against being a fucking default Avatar and I couldn't do shit
thorn compass
BRUH
tranquil vortex
So you're telling me that, people stay away from new players because they're new?
Because, they could be a possible troll? Because they're not trusted?
vocal shard
You can learn how to use unity before vrchat to be unique
But no
New users
Spooky
tranquil vortex
So, I feel like they should just fucking get rid of the fucking trusted system bullshit I just have it be like a free-for-all like just figure out who are the good people and who aren't
Just like in real life
vocal shard
They dont know shit and will dab on your children
thorn compass
Caff, I really wanna know whats going on in the thinking process. Like you are literally throwing all new users into a bad group. And praising High Ranking people, even though some of those are what you are describing?
olive mulch
eh i have the trust system off
tranquil vortex
like a battle Royale
tacit plank
People stay away from avatars which are not cute, 3 times taller than them, not trying to fit into a conversation, and difficult to communicate with due to bad mic orwhatever, yes
vocal shard
honestly, I played vrchat for 1 day using an avatar I found in a world, then spent 2 days making my own
queen mango
Several people are typing
vocal shard
never used a default avatar
olive mulch
some wankers want it on caus muh safe space
tranquil vortex
My dude
thorn compass
Bruh
tranquil vortex
I was like a 9ft tall fucking tuchanka
leaden kiln
"It's not gay if it's with Batman" - VRChat 2018
tranquil vortex
And I got in the middle of fucking room and I started squatting and everyone fucking started squatting
You literally have no fucking idea what you're talking about
queen mango
So... Anyone want headpats?
tacit plank
You joined a random world with bored people I guess
olive mulch
as dumb as it sounds, some people see vrchat as a second life
queen mango
-Headpats Rin-
vocal shard
Awww thank
thorn compass
Oh my days.
queen mango
No problem
thorn compass
WHY
tranquil vortex
Caffeine, you just got an excuse for everything just to make your point correct don't you?
raven silo
head patted banned in vrchat lol
ocean bramble
What did I wake up to
twin jacinth
Yeah @median basalt
i'm not sure what i even answered to now.
vocal shard
Isn't meeting PEOPLE THE POINT
queen mango
Nuuu
thorn compass
I dont even know anymore.
tranquil vortex
queen mango
OH GOD, WTFBBQ
tacit plank
You can find a group of people to do retarded stuff with in the popular public worlds
tranquil vortex
Oh, but not you, especially not you. You're way too fucking good for that
My bad, my Majesty
vocal shard
@tacit plank everyone in a public room is automatically a bored ass though
twin jacinth
i want head pat Elire
tranquil vortex
Allow me to fetch you the finest wine we have in the land
thorn compass
Rin, yep social game, but all newbies are trolls and we should prevent them from playing I guess. Thats what Caffeine is literally saying. Because all newbies are horrible.
vocal shard
Have you been to a public room?
agile holly
No I login to VRChat to chill with the same group of people and make fun of the greens pointing at them from the rooftop smoking cigarettes with my friends.
thorn compass
Here it comes.
tacit plank
But other places are usually chill, and won't appreciate a random guy who downloaded a meme avatar off "that site" just to spam particles everywhere
olive mulch
bu trolling is fun
vocal shard
Random guy
olive mulch
who doesnt love arresting people as a bird police?
vocal shard
So everyone knows each other?
tacit plank
Not neccesarily
thorn compass
Thats why you ask them to stop, and about 90% of the time they do, being nice and asking goes a long way.
raven silo
them raids
vocal shard
Yall having fun in your small circle?
olive mulch
raids are life
tacit plank
You don't need to be in private to meet chill people, you can just join a low-pop world
vocal shard
Quite frankly you look like you belong in an invite only instance
tranquil vortex
I swear, everyone this tbh eurekas post
thorn compass
And most of the people with those avatars are higher ranking people who do that tbh.
vocal shard
Done
tacit plank
And a group of cute fox girls or whatever will have a conversation somewhere
tranquil vortex
Noice
vocal shard
So we just categorize everyone and hope they get alone
thorn compass
Thanks Valley.
olive mulch
but they’re all dudes
vocal shard
Gotcha
civic plume
lol
tranquil vortex
Dude, like please, you're like the problem with the game
civic plume
BUT THEY'RE ALL DUDES
ocean bramble
I'm very glad that the Veteran rank is gone
civic plume
fucking rolling on my floor
vocal shard
Girl here with MMD avatar
tacit plank
And if you want to join the conversation of a group of people sitting and chatting, particles are not the way to do so
vocal shard
Ill yeet you if you mention voice changers
raven silo
simple think just set all high rank nothing just be dull ghost avatar lol
civic plume
yes it is
tranquil vortex
You don't want new people coming in because they're going to run you're game and it's ruins your experience
civic plume
heart particles
thorn compass
I dont even know what to say anymore.
vocal shard
Reminder
tacit plank
I guess those work
tranquil vortex
You're too high and mighty to just talk with the new guys and show them a good time
tranquil vortex
Instead you toss them out and show them it's a shitty game
olive mulch
never trust a female avatar in vrchat
tranquil vortex
Lrl
tranquil vortex
Ight fam
cold talon
When do we get vr only instances?
tacit plank
New players are fine if they want to chat or something, not if they want to play loud russian hard bass right besides people who're having a conversation
agile holly
Also can't trust female avatars in full body
I'm looking at you Forceable
tacit plank
Is this the "descrimination" you're talking about?
vocal shard
Well
olive mulch
but russian bass is good
vocal shard
You judged based on the avatar
How will you know they wanna talk if you already sent them away?
thorn compass
You are literally changing what you are saying to not make it worse, before you said all newbies were bad, now only some? wut
fervent frigate
Hey this is Byuyu
tranquil vortex
Your avatar is a reflection of you
olive mulch
i never block anyone
tacit plank
Because it's not related to rank, if you spam music you're being descriminated for your behaviour
vocal shard
Hi byuyu
fervent frigate
Hi peeps
thorn compass
You are literally changing what you said.
olive mulch
if he’s spamming music
shy nest
olive mulch
just mutenhim
vocal shard
Come join we are having a heated discussion?
olive mulch
problem solved
thorn compass
You CAT all newbies into bad people.
tranquil vortex
To can't be wrong, he's too "trusted" to be wrong
thorn compass
I am lost now.
agile holly
So
tacit plank
I guess my point is that others will accept you if you're trying to join in what they're doing and be a part of it
agile holly
If a trusted user gets banned for something, do they keep their rank when they come back from being banned?
tranquil vortex
But you said you didn't want anything to do with them?
vocal shard
I hate to say this since its been said to me so often and it ruined the point of conversing but
thorn compass
Rank literally made this worse, without it, you wouldnt be having this discussion that is perpetually about being bias.
vocal shard
He's a troll guys
tranquil vortex
Who? Me or him?
tacit plank
If they play loud music? No. If they stand besides me and nod because they like my avatar? Sure
vocal shard
No mr de-caf over here
vocal shard
No
vocal shard
The caffeine as high as a can of monster
olive mulch
how dare u call my fellow edgelord a troll!
tacit plank
And people already judged Steam users, which you can tell by the usernames
thorn compass
What about the mutes who play music for FBT players to dance to? You going to hate on them and call them bad and block and kick? or would you ask them to turn it down, or just leave?
tranquil vortex
inb4 calls the mods and gets us banned
vocal shard
Mods dont answer to pings lul
olive mulch
hah
vocal shard
They show up when feeling like it
tranquil vortex
fervent frigate
Guys guys there's a time and place for everything
tacit plank
Not because all Steam users are bad, but because 90% of them are less pleasant to be around than non-steam users
tranquil vortex
Wot
olive mulch
and the time is now
thorn compass
brrruuuuuuhhh
tranquil vortex
Nibbaaaa
vocal shard
Well @tacit plank that's completely unrelated
tranquil vortex
C'mon man
vocal shard
Guess why?
olive mulch
90% hahahhahha
thorn compass
I have met amazing steam users, who even use FBT.
vocal shard
Steam users have different privileges than vrchat accounts
They cant upload
So they're limited
vocal shard
They have to do the stuff they do because they cant personalize themselves
tranquil vortex
Caffeine? More like crack cocaine because you're completely out of it
tacit plank
I thought we were talking about new users now?
olive mulch
funny
tranquil vortex
Eggs dee
tranquil vortex
Same goes for old accounts
long venture
Vrchat be like
Don't talk to me unless you are a trusted user
tacit plank
If you've uploaded avatars, you're usually past the "Giant default avatar guy running around mindlessly" stage
long venture
olive mulch
i mean giant avatars are funny
olive mulch
but there’s such a small chance you’ll see one
long venture
I like using unity Chan default avatar
tranquil vortex
She cute
tacit plank
Unity chan is pretty great
long venture
Nothing like an ol trusted user using default avatars
agile holly
Unity chan :vomit:
tacit plank
But if you're a skeleton, you will be judged
vocal shard
pokes head out Is leg trackers fixed yet? 
olive mulch
bowsette is spooky enough
tranquil vortex
Nothing like a trusted user discriminating against new users
thorn compass
No, you will not. Maybe by you?
fervent frigate
Inb4 skeleton knuckles
vocal shard
So lets review caffeine's argument can we
thorn compass
Yes Rin pls.
tranquil vortex
Alright
tacit plank
I wouldn't say that's related to your rank though. I guess that's my entire point. People will judge you based on how you seem and act, not by your rank
vocal shard
A system that pulls users with the same privileges apart is ok because people without said privileges are usually annyoing and/or overbearing
thorn compass
Rank shouldnt be a thing in a social game, Thats literally why you started arguing because of newbies who are unranked should all be distrusted.
cold talon
Skeleton knukles?
Thats a great ideea, thx byuyu
vocal shard
Also
olive mulch
@tranquil vortex you me raiding a server, deal?
vocal shard
Change the name of the trusted rank to something else
fervent frigate
Np lol
vocal shard
Dont imply everyone is a criminal
tranquil vortex
Okay I was typing something
vocal shard
You can have it called a deluxe user or some shit
tacit plank
The risk of assholes is just 10 times higher for new users, so we've got the ability to allow or disallow them from certain things
shy nest
i vote on "big nerd" personally
vocal shard
And your statements are based on what?
olive mulch
you know what, let the man have his little safe space
tranquil vortex
So, I don't think rank should be in a social game because I feel like it's going to lead to people turning it into a competitive thing and people with the high ranks are going to be like super high on their shit
tacit plank
If you played the game, you'd know
vocal shard
I did
thorn compass
No, thats literally wrong.
fervent frigate
Can you imagine the moment when I new user adds another new user and they finally get to see what each other look like instead of grey blocks?
tacit plank
Yes, for almost 2% of my total playtime
thorn compass
You literally attract it by how you treat them.
tacit plank
The system just allows you to discriminate, you don't have to
vocal shard
And everyone ive met through discord channels and this server has been more than kind despite them being new and having just wrote an intro
tranquil vortex
Lmaoo
vocal shard
But WE ARE SAYING IT SHOULDNT LET PEOPLE DO THAT
vocal shard
I liked introductions
tacit plank
Everything is up to the user
vocal shard
I could friend likeminded users
olive mulch
so lets make guns legal
tacit plank
You think others should be forced to either see your particle spam, or block everyone in the room, Rin?
fervent frigate
People that see ranks as a social status symbol are wrong. It's a way for people to know how long you been a decent human being.
vocal shard
You can run over someone with a car
tranquil vortex
I want a gun on vrc that let's me kill people SAO style
vocal shard
But we dont need to
thorn compass
You completely have been bashing new users and basing it off of your experience? When I have never had that problem before and have about 1k hours? Something you are doing is completely wrong.
vocal shard
So give everyone a licence
uneven lotus
of course it will be viewed as social status anyway
agile holly
I don't even need the system, I already discriminate. If you have your mic shoved into your mouth and sound like you're underage and talk about fortnite, I'm going to look the other way and ignore / mute you.
vocal shard
^
tacit plank
You haven't met at least 100 russians Steam accounts blasting bad music yet, Eureka?
tranquil vortex
Tru tru
vocal shard
Blanket statements like "ALL NEW USERS ARE BAD"
tacit plank
I have, and I don't go to public very much
thorn compass
No, I have not.
vocal shard
"REE RUSSIANS
agile holly
Region block?
thorn compass
AND that is why the game died for so long, because of people going to invite worlds.
agile holly
O boi
inner cape
The game didnt die
vocal shard
I went into public all night tonight
inner cape
Tf you own about