vrchat-general-2

[umbral oracle]

If you use Standard shader, you should be allowed to use anything supported by standard

[analog canopy]

Standard? More like STINKY

[tidal aspen]

so I’m gonna assume the toon shader is just cubed?

[kind wedge]

Standard shader is actually very powerful when used correctly

[vocal shard]

I hope not

I hate the cubed shader

[kind wedge]

@tidal aspen its a custom toon shader made internally iirc

[tidal aspen]

standard is good if you have good normal maps

[umbral oracle]

I know it doesn't have a selector for stencil in the UI, but it does leave me wondering if there is a way to set a stencil on standard.

[median basalt]

@vocal shard stencils aren't possible without custom shaders turned on no

[analog canopy]

I'm just being a facetious little weeb no bully

[median basalt]

And no, Standard has zero mention of stencils anywhere

Physically impossible

[rigid crescent]

Gotta use @royal pond 's custom toon instead

[tidal aspen]

Is there a whitelist of shaders in there or am I just blind

[vocal shard]

So stencils are dead

[cerulean dust]

^^agred, standard specular is actually my favorite shader right now.

[vocal shard]

:(

[median basalt]

Standard is cool but it really does not work for every model

[vocal shard]

@rigid crescent gib shader

[median basalt]

And it also depends on whether the map has reflection probes

[kind wedge]

I use standard shader on my glasses, looks really nice in maps that have their reflection probes set up correctly

(so none)

[analog canopy]

Hahaha

[median basalt]

I use Alloy's glass shader for my glasses, which means my glasses will be opaque purple for people who have my shaders blocked.

[vocal shard]

Thanks for clarifying btw rokk

[rigid crescent]

It just uses the sphere things on MMDs, but if you don't actually use them it probably won't help much

Like if you're using literally anything other than an MMD model lol

[vocal shard]

Im not

My main model is mmd

Same goes using Rero as a glass shader Rokk

Im currently testing poiyomi shader

And rero shader is fucking good

[rigid crescent]

I don't use it, but Poiyomi is cute as hell

[vocal shard]

I have noticed Lux sorta stays the same?

[rigid crescent]

I saw a video with it earlier today

[vocal shard]

i can't really tell because its almost like standard but i use it for metallic's and it has worked

[rigid crescent]

I wish more MMDs used jewelry and accessories, shaders like poiyomi make them look really nice instead of just slapping them on clothes

[analog canopy]

So add those accessories

Ez

[rigid crescent]

but their example with the cut out flower is one of the oter applications

[royal pond]

Wait who’s looking for proper mmd shader? Lol

[vocal shard]

From my own experience, those jewelry are usually very high poly

[rigid crescent]

I do, all my avatars have jewelry, but I don't see them very often

Yeah, I've got one ring that started at 90k, but it's my favorite so I decimated it down and just ripped the parts I wanted from it

[analog canopy]

I once started importing an avatar that had a simple hand jewelry that was 150,000 polys and I was so infuriated with so much wasted space

[twilit sluice]

Hey it's me Sharkboy from the hit movie Sharkboy and Lavagirl.

[analog canopy]

Wow can I get an autograph

[kind wedge]

Well, this chat seemed to die down pretty quick

Im gonna go back to what I was doing

Dont break anything while Im gone

[wicked epoch]

MMD models werent originally made for vrchat, of course they got as much detail as possible

[vocal shard]

Okay Dad

[analog canopy]

Hey compatible is the game fixed yet

[wicked epoch]

allright compa see ya ingame!

[slender barn]

I remember when this game had like 30 people online on weekends. Haha

[twilit sluice]

Yes, I do autographs.

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, MMD makers were only ever held back by rendering time lol

[vocal shard]

Btw, is the particle limiter still a thing?

[muted frost]

hope it is

[slender barn]

I think it's just the trust system now

[royal pond]

Yes it is

Particle limiter isn’t going away

[opaque hawk]

I used to think the stardard shader was bad until I talked to an indie dev who used it for his entire game

[kind wedge]

Popping back in for a few seconds to say particle limiter is still separate from trust and safety

#particle-limiter-share-settings

[vocal shard]

Nice
Thanks

I dont want to block anything but limiting particles is sill necessary i believe

[lyric umbra]

🍿 Let the action begin

[rigid crescent]

I think it's bad in VRChat specifically, but that's probably because I haven't seen a good use for it, and if I have, I thought it was something else

[worldly vapor]

Standard is good if you know how to use it, but there are better versions of the standard shader out there

[inner cape]

Standard is good

Map makers are bad

Cause they don't put reflection probes

[kind wedge]

Put reflection probes in your maps

[crystal rock]

PLEASE

[inner cape]

[opaque hawk]

I’m learning ok 🎃 I’m sorry if it doesn’t look the best

[vocal shard]

And a fucking button to disable mirrors

[crystal rock]

Proper lighting is next to goldyness

[pallid vapor]

I probably should :P

[kind wedge]

I will personally smite anyone who doesnt look at the unity docs for reflection probes and do them properly

[velvet quarry]

I remember before I got my roughness settings properly sorted out on my shader

I became a black void on maps with weird reflection probes

turns out that was 80% of the worlds

[opaque hawk]

I will come after people who have lots of audio on their world set to “decompress on load”

[rough pulsar]

~Q U A L I T Y~

[kind wedge]

https://docs.unity3d.com/560/Documentation/Manual/class-ReflectionProbe.html

[worldly vapor]

Nah just stick them everywhere

[kind wedge]

you better not..

[worldly vapor]

I’ll make a world called reflect probe world just for you don’t worry

It will be of the utmost quality

[vocal shard]

Can anybody else confirm that dyn bone and cloth are broken?

[worldly vapor]

I went on for like 5 secs so I didn’t notice anything wrong

[kind wedge]

speaking on dynbone

I was going to make an avatar for Halloween that users a shader to show people's bones through a magnifying glass

and be the bone police

[vocal shard]

I wonder when VR Chat will stop avatars that crash computers and ruin your experience

[kind wedge]

y'all better be optimizing your bone chains...

[vocal shard]

Spooky

[worldly vapor]

That’s a unity limitation lol

Cpr

[vocal shard]

@vocal shard never

[trim hamlet]

dynamic bones kill frames
#savethecpus

[vocal shard]

But like some avatars affect all players

[tidal aspen]

yeah but I NEED my single strain of hair to move

[kind wedge]

Woah, where did this update come from????
https://medium.com/@vrchat/vrchat-safety-and-trust-system-4073f05ab602

[vocal shard]

😎

[kind wedge]

Spooky 👻

[vocal shard]

Imma put my female version on my shoulder

Double the dynamic bones

😎

Get that 0 poly onload

Or emote

[worldly vapor]

Imma put a useless phallic bone so if someone can see bones via shader, they’ll know what’s up

[indigo fern]

ayy

hard bone

[vocal shard]

Emote toggle or onload?

[opaque hawk]

Will empty game objects appear through that magnifying glass?

[kind wedge]

👻

who knows

I havent made it yet

[opaque hawk]

Lol I want to know

[worldly vapor]

Trying to think how a shader could do that

[hearty wyvern]

Inb4 "how to become trusted?" Is the new "how to make custom avatar?"

[indigo fern]

same

[worldly vapor]

Polys would be easy

But bones idk lol

[vapid socket]

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/change-maximum-safety-back-to-the-old-block-avatars-by-default made this if u guys agree, which im sure a lot of u do

[trim hamlet]

[kind wedge]

dont say that man, you'll trigger my automatic respo-

The Trust system’s inner workings are intentionally hidden so that it is more difficult to exploit. Regardless, the best way to raise your Rank is simply to play VRChat — spending time exploring, making friends, and creating content (once you are permitted to do so) will all help you increase your Trust Rank, and will show off more of your avatar’s features.

[hearty wyvern]

@trim hamlet I c u

[trim hamlet]

I c me too

[crisp pine]

So these trust ranks work with avatar pedestals too, right? Like as a normal user, people using the "normal" safety setting won't hear the gunshot sfx on Sarma avis, because audio is blocked by default?

[hearty wyvern]

@crisp pine def.

[crisp pine]

I was hoping not. Okay, thanks. XD

I guess it's all fair. Lotsa trolls, what can ya do

[vocal shard]

Nothing

Its always like that
A few retards will ruin everything for 99% of users

[hearty wyvern]

Mods and devvybois proofread public avatar worlds anyways I'm sure. So you shouldnt have to deal with anything too intrusive. Private worlds is a different novel

[kind wedge]

dont talk to me about world approval

i still have scars

[inner cape]

[crisp pine]

I just meant if I go to worlds with non-friends, they won't hear my avi gunshots from Sarma's avatars. But it's okay. Because I know a lot of avatar worlds with loud and obnoxious audio that I wouldn't want to hear, too.

[hearty wyvern]

@vocal shard remember when 99% of users were Ugandan?

[vocal shard]

I remember

December was dark times

I also remember a group of friends going into uganda to crash everyone there

[indigo fern]

[hearty wyvern]

@kind wedge pull your chin up maggot, it's a warzone out there and all the kings men have to serve!

[kind wedge]

YES SIR

[opaque hawk]

“The world is smaller than you think, word travels fast, don’t be a ****”

[vocal shard]

nah it's bowsette's now

[indigo fern]

^

[trim hamlet]

[hearty wyvern]

Now give me your warfare!

Face!

[vocal shard]

[kind wedge]

AAAAAAAAAA

[hearty wyvern]

Lmao

[vocal shard]

First it was Felix, Then Knuckles, (then Metal Gear Snake Raids which were shut down a lot 😮 ), now bowsette

oh and Custom Avatar was short lived

wut

[trim hamlet]

about a year ago most people were Neptunia lol

[hearty wyvern]

You missed out on the fake VRpill raids

[inner cape]

That's a whore face

[vocal shard]

I remember those

[trim hamlet]

[vocal shard]

it's like that time when people said "my uncle is Gabe Newell!!!"

[rigid crescent]

@vapid socket doesn't safe mode do that already?

[vapid socket]

nope, that cahnges ALL your custom settings

so youd have to change them back to how you want them when u want to turn them off

[hearty wyvern]

I remember he actually got kinda mad at that and someone got banned

[rigid crescent]

Oh, that's weird it doesn't just go to Maximum...

[vapid socket]

maximum doesnt block avatars

[vocal shard]

It should go to maximum according to the blog post

[vapid socket]

so they load and i lost frames in a 40_ person room

40+

[frozen storm]

fuckin hecck lol 🤣 i just got suspended from siege when i answered a dudes question " what do you get if you remove stan from pakistan"

:

[rigid crescent]

It doesn't? It says Maximum blocks everything but voice

Voice is On, everything else ise Off

[vapid socket]

yes but

oh wait maximum

no it doesnt

[kind wedge]

@hearty wyvern I made this just for you

[vapid socket]

it leaves avatars on for users above

[hearty wyvern]

You did yourself a favor getting suspended from siege

[vapid socket]

users and above

[hearty wyvern]

@kind wedge

[rigid crescent]

that makes no sense lol Maximum might as well just be the old "safe mode"

Maximum oversight

[vapid socket]

maximum should be old block avatars by default

[vocal shard]

Make a canny about it i guess

[rigid crescent]

yeah

no they did

[vapid socket]

i did

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/change-maximum-safety-back-to-the-old-block-avatars-by-default

[rigid crescent]

lots of people just play on potatoes and use it for performance, and it's "maximum" for a reason, it should just yeet everything

[vapid socket]

THANK YOU

[ruby needle]

if you want something custom then do your self a custom setting

[sharp heron]

I see you folks are as pissed as I am.

[rigid crescent]

Safe Mode eats your custom settings I think

so you have to set it every time

[trim hamlet]

Reminder that trust system is for trust not performance ^^

[ruby needle]

@rigid crescent if you want to block all default avatar, why would you need safe mode? 😄

[rigid crescent]

damn galaxy brain

[sharp heron]

Also, turning off avatars has helped with performance in the past.

[vapid socket]

yes but i used block avats by default for performance and u took it away

i love the new safety settings

but i love frames more

[ruby needle]

then set up your custom settings that way

[inner cape]

"Um, so, basically change the maximum safety... " slaps your face
"Aw fuck, I can't believe you've done this"

[rancid vessel]

I'm so glad they have the features under Safety now.. To turn off particles instead of turning off everything.. This will help prevent people crashing me...

[vapid socket]

and i have to cahnge it back everytime? just give me the old button back

[ruby needle]

you can literally set the custom settings to that and it works the same

[trim hamlet]

Put in a canny for performance settings then!

[vapid socket]

i did

https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/change-maximum-safety-back-to-the-old-block-avatars-by-default

[sharp heron]

It should had come common sense that people would want a Master override.

[chilly void]

Any new news on the full body problem?

[kind wedge]

#announcements

[sharp heron]

Some are able to use full-body. I've seen it.

[vocal shard]

Any news on chairs?

[kind wedge]

not enough energy for a snarky response

[rancid vessel]

I think the Safety feature is kinda their answer to stopping those people with crash gun avatars..

[hearty wyvern]

I want an override that just deletes my account if I ever say yeet aside from now.

[vocal shard]

Any news on custom animators?

[ruby needle]

@hearty wyvern say what exactly?

[hearty wyvern]

@kind wedge did my pep talk do nothing for you.

[kind wedge]

Ive been trying to get into VR for the past hour or so but Im just toooo lazzyyy

[hearty wyvern]

@ruby needle yaheet, but shorthand.

[ruby needle]

damn you didn fell for it

[hearty wyvern]

I feel you comp

[vocal shard]

No pepe

[kind wedge]

I told myself I wouldnt log in until the update dropped, but I dont want to see all my friends yellow nameplates

[vocal shard]

oof

[ruby needle]

As svel just said...

[hearty wyvern]

Lol...

[kind wedge]

I always feel bad deleting pepe posts, but rules are rules

[brazen galleon]

[hearty wyvern]

That was all of them in one post.

Got it out of my system

[vocal shard]

ya good now?

[kind wedge]

Hey man, I just work here 🤷

[vocal shard]

lol

[brazen galleon]

They're all dead now

[hearty wyvern]

I know some people who just twerk here.

[wicked epoch]

i allmost did a pepe emote jsut for that i just work here comment, luckily i read whats happening on the posts above

[hearty wyvern]

I almost got a spanking.

D:

Woops

[ocean bramble]

Pepe is getting discriminated :<

[vocal shard]

Me: Finally get another day off to enjoy my new leg trackers! Yay!
VRchat: We're aware of the issues with full-body tracking, and are working on it as an immediate priority.
Me: Bu...But day off....

oof

[meager solstice]

F

[ocean bramble]

[blazing stream]

You should demand a refund for the game as compensation

[hearty wyvern]

F

[vocal shard]

Ikr. lol Can't complain because free, but still.. Bought trackers for this game mainly. T-T

[blazing stream]

Same not gonna lie

[subtle salmon]

Low marks on this release, to be sure. Maybe a participation star sticker, but not much else.

[hearty wyvern]

Does lone echo support full body? That would be wild.

Its not so bad y'all. You could be begging daily like the KingsprayVR group is for any kind of respinse or update. Theyve been dark since February.

Its not so bad y'all. You could be begging daily like the KingsprayVR group is for any kind of respinse or update. Theyve been dark since February.

[vocal shard]

It's so bad that it had to be written twice

[blazing stream]

Yeah. Also has anyone heard of any updates on all the client hacks? For ex the force change others avatars and stuff

I wonder if they've fixed that yet

[meager solstice]

Only full body game is vrc

From my understanding

[hearty wyvern]

I think. And dont quote me, but I think Onward might support it. Not sure though.

[vocal shard]

@blazing stream they are broken for bow until they get updates to the current vrchat version

[blazing stream]

Ohhh

[subtle salmon]

Is anyone else getting consistantly timed out of vrc every five minutes or so? Or is that my special hell for this release.

[sharp heron]

I hate to say that I haven't seen this.

[sudden birch]

Haven't started up the game but I'm reading the patch notes and this part isn't clear to me
"World rows in Avatar/Social menus are now hidden once you are a New User Trust Rank or higher"

[vocal shard]

They showed a list of avatar world's when you opened your avatar menu. They changed it so that once you get the ability to upload your own avatars, that list disappears

[sudden birch]

ohh that makes sense, yeah

[blazing stream]

Not sure why they'd do that

[uncut gorge]

Okay guys, I found a workaround to get your full body working. Switch to a generic rigged avatar such as the AFK post, then switch to the avatar you actually want to you use and tpose, your full body will then work properly

[blazing stream]

Not everyone wants to upload their own avatars

[pallid vapor]

Avatar worlds still show up in worlds

It's just reverting to how it was a couple updates ago for seasoned players. Like turning off tutorial tooltips

[rigid crescent]

it used to be in the other menus is all

[blazing stream]

Yeah I get that

Too bad there's no way to toggle it

Oh well, I upload my own anyways

[torn drift]

U guys think searching through boxes for my old Kinect would be worth it for its fullbody ability?

[blazing stream]

I did it

Couldn't find it though so I bought one

[neon flume]

You'll have to get an adapter to connect it to your PC but it's decent if you can get it setup in the right spot.

[blazing stream]

Connect is iffy though

Kinect*

[neon flume]

There are limitations though like no hip rotation, inaccurate foot rotation, tracking only working when you're facing it, and moderate latency between real movement and virtual tracker movement.

[blazing stream]

Also you didn't accept my invite last night shadow smh

And yeah, with full body my 3rd camera is basically obsolete

[torn drift]

All that, plus my room is small.

Probably not worth it

[glossy wharf]

Kinects garbo

[blazing stream]

I bought an extra piece that zooms in the Kinect

So it works better in small rooms

[glossy wharf]

Straight up

[blazing stream]

But yes, in comparison to it's alternative it is garbage

[glossy wharf]

No even uncompared its garbage

It literally only works standing straight to it and standing up

Crouching is a fuckfest and sitting is impossible

[blazing stream]

Those 2 work fine for me

But you can't forget it's a camera

You need good lighting and to wear clothes that contrast your skin color

But if you can meet those needy requirements, it's doable. Just garbage in comparison to give trackers

[glossy wharf]

Yea let me just hop into my 80s disco jumpsuit to play vr with kinect

[blazing stream]

XDD

[neon flume]

If you get it setup optimally you can sit on a chair fairly well but the floor is risky and laying down is a disaster. I have mine on a tripod facing at the steepest angle downwards about a meter from the center of my playspace.

That being said I also bit the bullet and ordered vive pucks and lighthouses. I can't wait to have good full body tracking. 🤷

[blazing stream]

I'm waiting

[glossy wharf]

Make sure to angle ur vive base stations

[blazing stream]

They're coming out with the Tesla suits next year

So no point wasting money for tracking

[glossy wharf]

Guess who forgot it and had bad tracking until finally ordering a tripod

[neon flume]

Heh I've ordered a couple gimballed clamps to attach them to the tripods for my rift sensors. They should slot in just underneath and to the side of the oculus ones. I think that should keep them from interfering with each other too.

[glossy wharf]

Im using such a ghetto setup tbh

[blazing stream]

They said they plan to keep the suits the price of a console

[glossy wharf]

I have a ceiling support pole in my corner with a camera clamp attached to it and on that is my vive sensor, the other one is on a tripod on a shelf

Who even says those suits will be supported

[blazing stream]

I got to meet a guy who got to beta test out the suits in vrchat. They will be supported and they already are

[glossy wharf]

I mean

1000€ phones are a bad investment

[meager solstice]

I just want oculus gloves

[glossy wharf]

And so is a 600€ vr Tracking suit imo

[rigid crescent]

Tesla Studios call these ‘channels’. If you opt for the lower cost ‘Pioneer’ version (starting at £1199), the full suit will deliver up to 30 channels of feedback, with the top-flight ‘Prodigy’ tier (£2099) offering up to 52 channels. One other note: if you want that awesome sounding climate control – you need to opt for Prodigy.

[glossy wharf]

Cost as much as a console

More like cost as much as a mid tier pc

[rigid crescent]

thats pretty old but i cant imagine it going down much

[glossy wharf]

But why would anyone consider buying that

Let's be real here

[flint ore]

Is there a way to increase your trust rank, even though you had 278 hours on record?

[candid hare]

FIX IT! fixit fixit fixit fixit fixit

[vocal shard]

I wonder how exactly did fbt break though

[glossy wharf]

@flint ore play the game, talk to people, make friends, upload content

[rigid crescent]

@flint ore play the game

[glossy wharf]

278 hours isnt much

[vocal shard]

It was working fine in the open beta from what people reported

Inb4 it needed legacy animations

[glossy wharf]

Its probably the steamvr Update

That changed mappings

In combination with the wrist fix

[vocal shard]

Steamvr hasnt updated though?

[glossy wharf]

It has

New build literally today

[vocal shard]

The instant vrchat update rolled out?

[glossy wharf]

Yes

[vocal shard]

Wow

That's one hell of a coincidence

[glossy wharf]

It basically maps the trackers to the hands or some shit

[vocal shard]

Yeah apparently

[glossy wharf]

And then i think the wrist fix prolly cause the wrist Glitch was a fbt glitch

[vocal shard]

They get marked as controllers?

[glossy wharf]

Yw

[vocal shard]

Or something?

But really though

What happened to all of our necks

And how do I put them back

And I'm talking about the desktop animations that have uncomfortably screwed necks

and apparently vr too https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/421785980551430145/496784552258174986/unknown.png

Is it related to steamvr or something?

[rigid crescent]

thats desktop too i hink. i looked like that til i turned them on

[blazing stream]

They said in an interview they were gonna make the full released suits the price of a console

[rigid crescent]

arms out and all

[subtle salmon]

Yikes

[vocal shard]

Mine doesnt go away

[blazing stream]

Also I forgot to mention that you need an avatar that's working for the suit if you want to be able to feel. I'm not too sure what that means, but yeah

[vocal shard]

And neither does all my friends'

So oof

[rigid crescent]

that sounds like bs tbh. the suit thing i mean

[vocal shard]

Maybe when the fbt fix rolls out it irons some of those necked avatars out

@blazing stream I think it would be more like the game being designed to direct input to the suit

[lyric pendant]

i launched vrc and i have no avatar and can't access my menu, has anyone else had this problem? i tried restarting already multiple times

[subtle salmon]

The turtlenecked hands out thing kind of resembles the weird scrunched up pose you get when you have a bad animation in unity.

[analog canopy]

IM STILL READY TO RIOT

[flint ore]

Yeah but I did upload many avatars.

Not just trash ones, ones with actual rigs.

[lyric pendant]

huh

[vocal shard]

Actual rigs

¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿

You literally need a rig to upload an avatar

[flint ore]

Ones that are full body.

[vocal shard]

Oh say that then

Yes well

None of us know how the system works

Really we don't

All we know is that playing helps

And when you have people bragging about spending unhealthy amounts of time in the game you really realize how subjective "more" can be

[mild topaz]

is it fixed yet Xd

[blazing stream]

@vocal shard it's not the game. Some avatars already work with the Tesla suit in the game. But only certain avatars

[vocal shard]

You can be like me and only pick it up when you dont have schoolwork or a weekend to spare

Or be like some people who spend 12 hours a day on the game

Strange

Wait

Teslasuits have been rolled out?

I thought they were yet to be released to consumers

[rigid crescent]

without proof thats very hard tobelieve

"certain avatars"

[flint ore]

Time is something to prove how you love the game.

[vocal shard]

Actually no devin

You can afk or sleep for 20 hours

[flint ore]

I have 1K hours from GMod because I was dedicated with the game.

[rigid crescent]

i mean, to a degree sure

[flint ore]

And no, I only close the game.

[rigid crescent]

yeah some people sleep ingame

[flint ore]

Yeah, some

[vocal shard]

To some people it is, to some its not

To the algorithm, it is useless

Or at least that's what we've seen

[raven silo]

thought rank dont matter lol people say that all the time

[vocal shard]

^^

My boy jaz woke

[flint ore]

Speaking of AFK, someone had a custom particle that said AFK and just glowed the whole screen.

[vocal shard]

Bloom effect?

[flint ore]

No, like think of it as a full blown solar flare.

It just blinds the whole screen.

[vocal shard]

Deserves a report tbh

If someone gets flashed like that in vr it might not end well

[flint ore]

Wish I knew who it was.

[vocal shard]

Output log?

[versed hound]

Way to go to ruin vrc...

[analog canopy]

As annoying as it is you can block avatar one by one till you find out, right? With the new update?

[raven silo]

disable particle

in safety

[flint ore]

But I like particles.

This is just the 10% of people who just do that.

[versed hound]

Give us back the version from august, it was a lot better...

[raven silo]

what problem?

rank system lol

[vocal shard]

We all got necked
Lightning Mcqueen comes out, with Mater
Shrek

Comes in with working FBT
Dabs on Tupper, he gets a 4 year ban but Tupper's drawcalls are... too high.

He fights Lighting Mcqueen but fails as it turns out Mcqueen had a share in VRChat stocks, and melts his cpu before going Super Saiyan Lighting Mcqueen Rose

[rigid crescent]

Yeah, block one by one then just report that one person, e z

and then block them lol

[vocal shard]

@pine topaz some convection glow shaders will cause a blinding bloom effect on most maps

😏

or shaders that give an emission option to outlines

[paper cloak]

it's on maps that use the bloom function of post processing stack

if you have a bright color set to above the threshold for bloom, it will get blown out

nothing to do with the shader itself

[golden violet]

Could you revert the patch while you work on a fix for FBT? Better than keeping this broken one and keeping everyone waiting and not being able to play

You have reverted patches before so it's possible

[gloomy valve]

Wtf is an fbt?!

Im so out of the loop rn

[covert garnet]

Full body tracking

[rigid crescent]

You don't really need FBT for the game to be playable in VR though. There's also a temporary workaround isn't there?

[golden violet]

I do. what's the workaround?

[rigid crescent]

uhhh it's talked about in the FBT channel an bug reports, something about turning them off and on or swapping avatars or something like that, I only skimmed it

[golden violet]

found it. looks bothersome. Easier if they just reverted the update. No one cares about the update anyway, the ranks are completely unnecessary, but FBT sales is probably what made them get funded by Vive in the first place. It's a fundamental part of VRChat.

Revert the update while you work on a fix. Once the fix is done and tested, then re-release the update.

[vocal shard]

Unless you are either dancing or doing some kind of "role-play" just chill and wait for the fix.

[candid acorn]

I mean, realistically speaking, full body tracking is sort of one of the selling points for vrchat compared to it's competitors

[vocal shard]

I do agree as I have fbt too, but me personally I don't use as often as I have been

[golden violet]

FBT is a selling point and rank system is a pushing away -kind of point. "Oh there's a China-like social system, oh maybe I'll play something else then..." Just revert the update, work on a fix, and re-release when it's fixed.

I always use it

I haven't played the game without FBT in months

[candid acorn]

theyll never revert the ranks. it's too beneficial to streamers. But you can bet your ass theyre working right now to fix fbt, because thats also beneficial to streamers

[golden violet]

I didn't mean that. I meant for the time being while they work on a fix.

[rigid crescent]

I like the new system, definitely helps stop a lot of crashers.

Stopping that is a lot more important than rolling back to fix an issue that there's a workaround for...

[crystal gazelle]

From what I understand of the new system(it rolled out today while im at work..oof)..it's seems like a way better option than what was set in place before.
I think it'll definitely fix the public world's up a bit..
Also, may be beneficial for low end PC's n such. 🤷
Though I haven't tried it yet, and don't have FBT yet..so..

[golden violet]

workaround doesnt work

revert te update this instant.

[tall storm]

let the data flow and then decide if the system is crap. It's not even full day one.

[crystal gazelle]

While the community is entitled to opinion..
I don't think yelling demands at them fixes anything..
They know there are issues..
They're working on it.
The game is playable without fbt? Correct?

[rigid crescent]

It doesn't work? but I watched people do it

I told two people about it, both in two different Pugs, and watched as they did it

[raven silo]

well some youtuber try to make living on vrchat dance fbt lol

and twitch

[sonic verge]

could anyone tell me how did they actually broke full body? a friend of mine who has one is asking

[rigid crescent]

It doesn't work and your body gets all locked up from what I an see

[golden violet]

its broken

[astral cliff]

From what I hear it's partly due to a Steam VR update

[rigid crescent]

I told the dude to swap avatars, turn them of,f t hen turn them back on and it worked fine

[golden violet]

workaround doesnt work

[rigid crescent]

What did I witness someone do then?

[golden violet]

you cant expext everyone to do that

way too bothersome

it doesnt work

[rigid crescent]

But how did I watch someone do it and use their full body if it doesn't work

[golden violet]

revert the upfdate

[rigid crescent]

first you say it doesn't work, then you say it's too bothersome. which is it?

[golden violet]

ill just block you

[rigid crescent]

OK

Obviously English isn't your first language so it's a bit hard to convey to you that the fix does work, because I watched two people do it.

[lilac swan]

Did he have the trackers turned on before starting VRchat?

[rigid crescent]

The two people I saw did. It was a random spiderman and some halo guy

I read from the discord the instructions, he did it, and it worked and he did some poses

halo guy just kicked his legs

[lilac swan]

I tried turning them on after starting VRchat and in my case it technically did work however my hip point was down at the origin point of my avatar, despite my hip tracker clearly being shown in its proper position in the steamVR overlay

[tall storm]

Was there a hotfix pushed for fbt? Because there was an official confirm of breaking

[lilac swan]

Not yet AFAIK. It'll be mentioned in #announcements

[rigid crescent]

he had them on normally and was like "oh lemme try that"and then did it

[lilac swan]

Certain workarounds seems to be working for people, so look that up in the meanwhile

I'll try having them on before starting the game client later

[trim star]

So legacy animations will no longer work?

[lilac swan]

On avatars, no

[trim star]

Is it broken or they just all together removed?

[lilac swan]

Removed.

[sonic verge]

ugh this will look hideous

[trim star]

Any way to achieve the same affect by something they added or no

[lilac swan]

Unitys "normal" mecanim animation system can technically do pretty much almost everything the legacy system could, you just have to go about it differently

[trim star]

So i can still have animations that do not require gestures?

[lilac swan]

Like looping animations on your avatar? Yes

[signal wren]

but

thats how I do my blinking

:/\

[trim star]

How would i go about it then?

[signal wren]

like..... legacy >:V

[vocal shard]

I'm liking the update so far

Even minor things like the loading avatar placeholder has been removed so it looks like avatars just wait to load the next then insta swap, is nice

[lilac swan]

One way is to parent a seperate game object to your avatar and animate that, heard you can just put an animator on your bones themselves to animate them directly

[edgy junco]

any news on FBT?

[lilac swan]

It'll be in #announcements when there is

[signal wren]

I don't like that at all

no no no

I'v been working this way since the start and now take it away >:s

[lilac swan]

That's the reality unfortunately.

[neon flume]

For converting blink animations from legacy there's a video guide pinned in the #animation channel.

[signal wren]

Why dos it say that we can keep animations on avatars before spt 1 but all of my animations are gone

on all avatars.

[molten hornet]

Hmm i cant seem to login with my vr headset ( VIVE) i can login with desktop mode fine but after update i get stuck on a 100% loading screen

[signal wren]

That's because your suppose to hit ok at the end?

[molten hornet]

I disabled it

[signal wren]

maybe thats why

[molten hornet]

It said you could disable it though O.o

[signal wren]

It just came outtoday so.

who knows

[molten hornet]

I'll try to reenable it in desktop mode then

[covert chasm]

@signal wren Adapting to change is vital. Animators are far more powerful anyways, I'm looking forward to seeing users start to discover and learn how to use them 😃

[signal wren]

Animation is not the problem the problem is I can no longer blink.

[golden violet]

Tupper any eta on the FBT fix?

[signal wren]

and nothing I do seems to work.

[molten hornet]

So Ya when i enabled the Go in desktop VR works, that might be a bug idk@signal wren

[signal wren]

All my models are blinkless now

and I don't have some of my files now.

so

a lot of hard work for nothing >:c

[raven silo]

yea best backup

in vrchat

lose stuff

[idle elm]

Always backup your work

[molten hornet]

Backup's are for the weak!

Real men do it live

and cry when mistakes happen

[blazing wave]

did anyone get the vive wirless and get a "PC Headset plugged into wrong video card" issue?

[maiden hound]

how do i see what rank i am on vrchat? (eg. Trusted user, known user, user, visitor....)

[raven silo]

open your menu

on the right side

[maiden hound]

I dont see anything, thats why im asking

[raven silo]

screen shot it

[maiden hound]

kk ill dm you it

[covert chasm]

If you open your menu and point into open space, you'll eventually get your own image to pop up

and it'll list your rank

[raven silo]

@covert chasm https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/496863769696403456/496863781872467968/unknown.png?width=1133&height=683

that pic

[covert chasm]

Then they're a new user?

[raven silo]

he dont one

[maiden hound]

Do I need to leave it on or just play for a little bit until it shows up? @covert chasm

[raven silo]

oh ok

[maiden hound]

ive been playing for like 2 months now

[maiden hound]

whaaat

why am i new

i have like 70 hours by now

[raven silo]

need more then 70 hour i would think

[rigid crescent]

hours arent all that matter i guess

[maiden hound]

damn, well this sucks. Everyone will block new users -n-

[raven silo]

only disable particle

i do to everyone

[brisk aspen]

why on vrchat am a new user

[maiden hound]

ikr ^

[brisk aspen]

-_-

[maiden hound]

a new user should be like 10 hours and under

not 70 😂

[brisk aspen]

since when 150 hours in vrchat is a new USER

[fervent scroll]

They said more the hours go into it

[brisk aspen]

i have 148 on steam

what is happening

[fervent scroll]

I guess wait until they release the entire idea behind it

[whole lodge]

Don't think it's just time

[fervent scroll]

then*

[brisk aspen]

NO

[maiden hound]

i played on vrchat for like 10 hours straight on the weekend

i have 70 hours

[whole lodge]

It's like when people become eligible to upload avatars. It's a mixture of things

[brisk aspen]

i played 70 hours in one week just vrchat

[maiden hound]

and still a new user

[brisk aspen]

and am STILL A NEW USER

why

[whole lodge]

They even said that they are going to tweak the formula

[fervent scroll]

im only at like

1,300 hours

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk aspen]

meh

[shrewd quarry]

Got toggle props working without legacy anims, life is good.

[whole lodge]

Time isn't what makes for your rank

[fervent scroll]

but i've contributed alot

[crystal gazelle]

Does the website have a way to check it?
I've not been home to check yet..

[fervent scroll]

so

[whole lodge]

Otherwise afkers with high time would be purple plus

[supple python]

Playing s ton in a short while doesn't do much from what I understand, play a good bit throughout a large time period for better results maybe?

[fervent frigate]

Yo sup turtle dude!

[maiden hound]

@whole lodge im not an afker though. I play for hours with friends and shit and yet it does nothing

[whole lodge]

I mean I understand. But they said it's still being tweaked.

[raven silo]

are you able upload avatar?

[maiden hound]

yeah i can @raven silo

[raven silo]

hmmm

guess rank system dont effect that

[fervent frigate]

Does anyone know a good way to make track straps tighter?
https://goo.gl/images/NAWWx8

[whole lodge]

Tying rank user to uploading avatars would be a good idea

[fervent frigate]

@supple python

[maiden hound]

does everyone start out as a new user?

[ruby burrow]

New User is the rank that you gain upload rights.
You start at Visitor don't you?

[maiden hound]

after the update

[whole lodge]

Because it's visitor > New user > user right?

[maiden hound]

is everyone a new user right now?

[fervent scroll]

no

[neon flume]

I've just got trackers but I'm using velcro thin ties (little velcro ties for cables) to keep the pucks on.

[ruby burrow]

I'm at 350 hours and new user.

[raven silo]

@maiden hound nope im known user

[maiden hound]

@neon flume damn that sucks you jsut got trackers and they dont work

[fervent scroll]

I feel like if you ever been kick or reported it probably has something to do with it

[raven silo]

derank from trusted after remove veterans

[fervent scroll]

im a trusted user

[neon flume]

heh I had a kinect v2 before this so I already had a taste of full body.

[maiden hound]

@neon flume Im talking about how the update kinda broke it'

wait

[raven silo]

i dont care about rank system

[whole lodge]

I assume that them tweaking the formula will change

I started off as uh.. Whatever purple is

[raven silo]

only feature i want disable particle

[maiden hound]

@neon flume how is the kinect?

i wanna use it

[fervent scroll]

ive seen some people get the kinect to work

like

really well

[maiden hound]

i have a kinect 360

[raven silo]

i think fullbody broking right now

[tranquil vortex]

Hey

[maiden hound]

yeah it is

[tranquil vortex]

Did anyone buy that wireless adapter

[whole lodge]

Fbt still broke right? No work around?

[maiden hound]

but they says its their #1 priority to fix

[tranquil vortex]

Also

[raven silo]

best wait till update

they try make somthing work wont work

[neon flume]

The kinect v2 is okay, it'll track standing motion fairly well if you face it. I have it set up as optimally as I could (one meter away about two meters high at the steepest inclination) and it lets me sit down on chairs and the floor. It'll break horribly if you lay down and you can't move one leg in front of the other. I don't know what the kinect v1 is like.

[fervent scroll]

Atleast we can go into publics now and not be crashed!

[ruby burrow]

Yeah, full body breaks both leg and arm movement right now. You look like a desktop user.

[fervent scroll]

Woo

[whole lodge]

OK so no point in being in fbt

Will be the first in a long time I've been on without fbt

[raven silo]

wonder how the twitcher user dance

[crystal gazelle]

Kinect v1 is..oh god..

[neon flume]

If you already have a kinect give it a shot, it's really fun and it's practically free. Just don't be like me and drop $100 on a kinect. 😅

[raven silo]

in FBT feel

[maiden hound]

nice, I just need the plug to plug the kinect in. Do you have to pay for a membership or something to use the thing that kinects the kinect to the computer? @neon flume

[neon flume]

You'll need a power adapter (which some enterprising individuals have made themselves, ymmv) and a driver like KinectToVR.

[tranquil vortex]

http://imgur.com/gallery/rgrCtQD

[neon flume]

https://github.com/sharkyh20/KinectToVR

[maiden hound]

is kienct to vr pricy?

[tranquil vortex]

Here's the specs for the battery pack that came with the wireless adapter

@maiden hound around 100

If you need to buy everything

[neon flume]

Nope, totally free and open source

[maiden hound]

I have a kinect 360

i just need a cord

which is what

16$? CAD

[tranquil vortex]

If you can get the Xbox one kinetic

Do so

It's better

Also, the battery pack from the wireless Vive thing serves as a good phone battery pack

[maiden hound]

idk, i would wanna spend 100 dollars on that if i have a 360. I dont know

i only have a WMR :((

[raven silo]

kinect 360 not worth it

[maiden hound]

damn

[honest depot]

Its weird earlier i had the "Known User" Status but now i am Trusted User .... played 1800h and were here before the hype so

[raven silo]

more problem get to work

[tranquil vortex]

How does that system work

[maiden hound]

feck it ill try to find one on Kijiji or something

[tranquil vortex]

I read up on it

[crystal gazelle]

The 360 works if you have a room dedicated to your vr..seeing as you have to stand nearly 4-6ft away

[raven silo]

it only track front movment if you try to turn around in real life it break your avatar lol

[honest depot]

But i deleted like 15+ friends that might have a bad reputation LUL xD

[raven silo]

so you still use motion contorler to turn

[neon flume]

Oh, with the kinect you don't have any kind of hip rotation so you'll look a little stiff. The latency is pretty unfortunate too, really pulled me out immersion wise. My hands would respond quite well while my legs would trail behind.

If fbt was working in game I could demonstrate.

[maiden hound]

oh wow. Its either that or spend 800$$ CAD for a vive and trackers

[honest depot]

who wants to use Kinect fullbody?

[neon flume]

Yup. I went through the same dilemma. There's nothing in between.

[maiden hound]

me @honest depot

[honest depot]

where you from?

[maiden hound]

canada

[ruby burrow]

My lousy job has been giving me too much overtime lately, so I'm getting increasingly tempted to just get those extra trackers myself.

[crystal gazelle]

I'm personally just going to wait till tax season n buy the trackers n lighthouses. Till Vive releases the knuckles..eh..

[honest depot]

Ooof i would gift you mine but you will have to pay the shipping lul I dont use mine anymore and its laying here it works but i end up not using it anymore

[maiden hound]

ikr im tempted to save up from my job but its not worth it x-x @ruby burrow

[ruby burrow]

Already started with the Vive, so it's just $300 and no cross compatibility hassle for me.

[neon flume]

Canadian here too! 🇨🇦
You might be able to find a used vive or the lighthouses to save a bit of money.

[maiden hound]

@honest depot haha thats alright.

niice🇨🇦🇨🇦\

[ruby burrow]

My only reservation, is wondering if a "Mk2" version of the trackers might not be far off.

[torn iron]

any updates on the ? full body thingy?

[ruby burrow]

I've no info on whether thats a thing or not, but you never know.

[neon flume]

Aren't we on the 2.0 version of the trackers already? The ones I just got should be compatible with the 2.0 lighthouses.

[maiden hound]

ill search into pricings of used things near me.

tracking is relatively new, right?

[neon flume]

There aren't many other applications but I think people have had full body for a year using the vive pucks.

[ruby burrow]

The 2.0 lighthouses are compatible with all previous stuff far as I understand.

[maiden hound]

also @neon flume what is the cable called that you need for kinect to PC, do you know?

damn a kinect for xbox 1 is 325 dollars

[trim finch]

No the 2.0 lighthouses can't see 1.0 trackers.
Source: I had to buy 3 more trackers.

[raven silo]

best buy vive want to go fullbody

[maiden hound]

800 dollars though. Big commitment :<<

[raven silo]

vive use to be that much without tracker

so it cheaper then before

[golden violet]

it's useless to talk about FBT when it doesn't even work

[neon flume]

I don't know specifically what the cable is called but it's a power adapter for the kinect to connect to a PC. I don't believe microsoft makes it anymore so you'll have to find one used or third party.

[golden violet]

it'll probably take them weeks to fix...

[raven silo]

see how long took eye tracking on fbt

[torn iron]

well as hardcore person i hope they fix it soon

[maiden hound]

alright, thats alright. Maybe ill forget about the idea of the tracking 😂 cant really afford an xbox one kinect anyway, 325 dollars! @neon flume

[torn iron]

they upsate to many pepale

take more then 30 days

[vocal shard]

How well does Kinect work for full body?

[trim finch]

I've got $3,125 give or take invested in Vive (original, pro, trackers and wireless)

[golden violet]

the eye tracking fix took like a year and some months. I guess we'll have FBT in VRChat in 2019-2020 again...

in all seriousness I hope there's a fix or revert of the patch within next few hours

[trim finch]

It hasn't even been a day. Give them a chance.

[maiden hound]

wait, is eye tracking real eye tracking?

[golden violet]

I gave them 7 hours already

[vocal shard]

Doesn't a 360 kinect work as well though? @maiden hound

And its like $40

[ruby burrow]

From what I saw of kinect tracking in videos, I wouldn't bother with it personally. Lets you have a more natural and animated standing pose, but can't really do any of the things I'd actually want FBT for.

[maiden hound]

@vocal shard I have a 360, apparently not at all though

[trim finch]

You gave them? What else did you give them, it's a free to play game.

[maiden hound]

@vocal shard like apparently its not good

[raven silo]

@maiden hound did check your local game store for xbox 360 kinect usb adapter

[neon flume]

My suggestion is to just save up for the vive lighthouses and pucks. Most people I know with the Kinect have ended up going for the vive setup eventually anyways (myself included). Once fbt is back you could come visit me and I'll show you what the kinect looks like with my setup and you can make a more informed decision.

[golden violet]

I bought a Vive and Vive funded them with millions.

[raven silo]

not brand name game store just local game store

[maiden hound]

@raven silo I'm doing errands tomorrow so maybe ill check tomorrow. Dont really have a lot of places to try, though. So i'm not sure, but i'm hopeful

[ruby burrow]

Yeah, it's easy to see why HTC loves this game.

[golden violet]

yeah, and that's exactly a reason you don't want to break FBT like this

[raven silo]

most time game store buy stuff from people

they buy old stuff people dont use

[trim finch]

You bought a Vive on your own accord. They owe you nothing. I hope it gets fixed as well but demanding a revert is bit overzealous.

Patience young one.

[ruby burrow]

It'll be back. They've said it's their number one priority, and it's obviously a far bigger deal than the previous lack of eye tracking.

[golden violet]

another one to the block list...

[maiden hound]

https://gyazo.com/9e3b53b4e2084e71f597d80faaaee2b3

[vocal shard]

Ehh, what is FBT

Oh

[raven silo]

fullbody tracking

[vocal shard]

Full body tracking

[maiden hound]

full body

[ruby burrow]

Full Body Tracking.

[maiden hound]

😂

[neon flume]

full body tra....

[vocal shard]

Is it just broken in general

[raven silo]

just wait for update in #announcements

[vocal shard]

Don't hold your breath

[neon flume]

I wonder what fraction of people buying trackers are using them for VRChat vs for other games/applications.

[ruby burrow]

Right now enabling extra trackers makes you look like a desktop user to other players.

[vocal shard]

It'll take a long time, knowing how things go around here

[maiden hound]

well there is a way to get around i ti for a little. Like turning it on and off and on when youre in vrc

[raven silo]

dont kill your self try to make it work lol

when it dont

[maiden hound]

i heard that works

[ruby burrow]

But you can still just play without the trackers just fine. I know people enjoy their FBT, but it's really not THAT big of a deal to be without it for a week.

[golden violet]

it IS that big of a deal

[maiden hound]

yeah but people like no logic david is going to die if they dont fix it soon 😂

[molten hornet]

Im a known user now WOOOOOOOOOOO

[raven silo]

if your not twitcher does FBT dance lol

[golden violet]

and for a week? NO

[ruby burrow]

It's a bigger deal for the twitch dancers certainly yeah.

[molten hornet]

Who cares bout twitch Shrug

[trim finch]

Careful don't upset Okuu or he'll block you for not agreeing with his demands lol

[molten hornet]

Maybe I just am too old to understand it

[tidal aspen]

still works locally though doesn't it

[neon flume]

I miss my legs but I’m okay waiting. Now I can sit down and nobody will know.

[molten hornet]

@neon flume o we will know

[trim finch]

Let's be honest after jumping around and kicking stuff on day one, 90% of FBT users just sit anyway

Myself included

[raven silo]

most be lazy

[ruby burrow]

Basically, this isn't some big new thing they have to code or figure out. FBT may have been accidentally broken, but it's not going to be a complicated bug to work out.

[solid pendant]

The full body still works. You gotta turn off the trackers, change avatar, turn them on and change back to the model that you want and apply the full body. You just have to do this every time that you join a new world.

[raven silo]

be funny if legacy animations was use on FBT

IK

[rancid vessel]

So does your rank go up automatically? I just saw a thing on VRChat loading screen said hang with friends and gain trust to move up a rank from like Known user to like Trusted and such.

[maiden hound]

has anyone here actually tried an kinect 360 in vrchat?

i have questions

[raven silo]

yea pain in butt to get it work

most time your cailbrate

[maiden hound]

awesome, I have a question, how much space do you need?

[ruby burrow]

I wonder if that guy blocked me, or just had enough of the conversation. '-'

[raven silo]

@ruby burrow who?

[ruby burrow]

Okuu

[raven silo]

Okuu not talk anymore

[crystal gazelle]

I used my 360 for vrc

Ask away

[ruby burrow]

Kk. Can be hard to tell when someone has a trigger finger block policy like that. ^ ^;

[raven silo]

@maiden hound need good space for 360 kinect

need clear view on you

[maiden hound]

Okay, and kinecttovr is free?

no trials?

[crystal gazelle]

Yep

[neon flume]

Open source and free

[raven silo]

yea that verison free

never use that one

[maiden hound]

And where did you guys get the cords to connect to pc? Online?

[crystal gazelle]

I've used kinect2vr n driver4vr

Yeah, amazon

[raven silo]

@maiden hound at my local game store game etc

it cal

[neon flume]

Came with mine, it’s a Kinect for windows.

[maiden hound]

is it worth it?

[crystal gazelle]

With the 360..

[raven silo]

well got my for $5

[crystal gazelle]

Eh

[raven silo]

for cord

[maiden hound]

i have the 360 already tho

just no cord

[ruby burrow]

@maiden hound You know, even with the poor tracking quality of the 360 Kinect, one thing it should be good for regardless, is letting you use Play Space Mover fully without needing the awkward fake trackers.

[pine portal]

How to get higher rank

[maiden hound]

True, thats why i am really tempted to buy it

[crystal gazelle]

I've used it like twice. Setup is frustrating..and the results, at least from the 360 tracking..
Not really

[raven silo]

@pine portal nobody know

[maiden hound]

Can you sit down smoothly with 360?

[vocal shard]

Depends on playspace

If you have a huge play space your good

Like 5m away from kinect

[maiden hound]

damn seriously? I found a xbox 1 kinect on kijiji but like... 40 dollars, and idek if itll work as well as i think

[neon flume]

You’ll probably need to mount it high (tripod 2m up) too.

[ruby burrow]

5 meters? @_@

[maiden hound]

i have i have a desk i can put it on

[crystal gazelle]

5 meaters.

[raven silo]

xbox 1 kinect has better camera on it

[vocal shard]

Xbox one kinect is better tracking but adapter is way more

[crystal gazelle]

Xbox 1 Kinect also only requires like 3 meters

[vocal shard]

2 m to be exact

[maiden hound]

i have around 3 feet of space maybe? probably more

[ruby burrow]

The last guy said you need 4 to 6 feet.

[vocal shard]

I have like 7 m so yeah

[raven silo]

any FBT need the space

[maiden hound]

i have around 3.5 feet of space away from the kinect\

[vocal shard]

That's not gonna not be enough

[maiden hound]

damn

[vocal shard]

Unless you put it very high up pointing down on you

[maiden hound]

well'p I mean i could

put boxes on my desk and put it up there

[raven silo]

do you have tall celling

[blazing stream]

How do we refresh our avatar list now?

Do we have to restart the game?

[maiden hound]

hm, id say around 8 or 9 f ?

[raven silo]

@blazing stream hit exspaned button

[maiden hound]

@raven silo

[blazing stream]

oh I gotcha

I did

but it took about 5 mins to refresh

thats an oof

[maiden hound]

minkanes trackers are working right now

[raven silo]

@maiden hound would need put up wards tilled down

at you

[maiden hound]

how high would you say?

[raven silo]

well might only need 2 or 3 feet

need play with it

till it right

[maiden hound]

seriously? if thats so i have a desk i can put it on

[raven silo]

first going pain to get it to work right but just adjust till it right for you

only track front of your body

when using it

[maiden hound]

Yeah i understand that. Alright.Well ill go on a hunt for a cord tomorrow, tysm for helping. Now im like really tempted to buy one

yeah i heard that you needed to do that

[raven silo]

well good luck finding it could be rare now because vrchat lol

[supple python]

@fervent frigate You @ ed me?

[sonic verge]

"from what I've worked out from testing
the trackers are now counted as controllers
which the software limits you to 2 cos hand controls
so i can get the trackers to work
but i keep hitting the control limit
getting so suck of these pushed updates"

this is what my friend said about the full body problem

[fervent frigate]

Yea I wanted to say hi. @supple python

[supple python]

oh XD

You were askin somethin bout getin the track straps tigher too right>'

[fervent frigate]

Yea

[supple python]

I just pull mine as tight as I need to, then end up tucking the loose end under the tracker

[vocal shard]

Xbox One Kinect needs either an adapter (which is ridiculously overpriced) or you DIY the thing using a 12V 3+ Amp power supply and a USB 3.0 type-B cable. Do note too that: Kinect can only track what's straight forward it, so no tracking of your sides or back. Also it has difficulty estimating the leg positions when sitting on the floor because bent knees will hide the upper legs, which will cause the tracking to fail and your legs to look horribly broken.

[raven silo]

use to be just $30

but boom FBT VRchat raise the price

[fervent frigate]

Hmm mine is already all the way tight and the Velcro doesn't reach anymore since my ankle is oddly skinny on one foot

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41lc0XkaSDL._SX425_.jpg

I think this product will work for me. @supple python

[supple python]

hmm

[near badge]

yo can someone please make a good youtube tutorial on for example taking a head from one avatar to another avatar body and things such as clothes to another

[trim finch]

I had that issue as I wore them on my ankles as well. Bought a new set with the belt coming out and they seem smaller.

[neon flume]

I followed this tutorial for doing a head/hair swap, it might be helpful if you haven't seen it already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0y93oaIvg

[golden violet]

Byuyu you could try going even tighter and reaching the other side of the tracker on the strap, it's a bit tight and might break it in the long run but works for me

[leaden kiln]

or just go to the hardware store and get a roll of velcro

[fathom nymph]

when build 635 went live recently, disabling shaders on friends will result in their avatars having default shader which doesn't look that good.
after a while, i log on the game again and still have the shaders off but my friends' avatars no longer have default shaders.
is this normal? did they whitelist some shaders or something like that?

[elfin ether]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 6866 users in VRChat currently

[finite kraken]

one thing that annoys me is the clicking ok every time when going to a world

[night lava]

in the settings is an option to skip that @finite kraken

[opaque hawk]

@kind wedge I read the documentation you linked today, my world looks beautiful now

[smoky nacelle]

Hello will anyone let me suck their toes

[kind wedge]

@opaque hawk god bless 🙏

[analog canopy]

Care to repost that link?

[vocal shard]

what

is there a new launcher code to enable my trackers?

[shy nest]

fbt is fucked right now i think

[vocal shard]

😏

[shy nest]

there is a way to somewhat fix it i believe

[rough pulsar]

@vocal shard FBT is broken in this build, they're aware it's fucked and are working on a fix.

I hope.

[vocal shard]

just change the number back

[shy nest]

[rough pulsar]

I have heard that changing the tracker mapping to a non-hand mode in the steamvr device mapping should fix it, but it seems to be also unpredictable.

[vocal shard]

the normal beta client was fine

before the live beta client

why did you guys break it

[shy nest]

just ctrl + z ez fix

[calm quiver]

Why not

[shy nest]

hire me

[calm quiver]

[vocal shard]

last minute ninja edit for the live beta.

🤔

[shy nest]

gotta reel in the money baggers on the game for a bit

bring em down to plebdom

show them the struggles of the people

[vocal shard]

-.-

it's that punishment for the rank system

[shy nest]

yikes imagine if that was a thing

"you need to be "blah rank" to use fbt"

[vocal shard]

you cant be veteran! you cant have legs! you are not allowed to use animations!!!!

no custom avatars allowed!!

[shy nest]

ngl i cut off my legs to get super immersed in vrchat

cant move them because rift so what other use do they really have 😂

[vocal shard]

i have oculus with vive trackers

but i cant do the same thing as the vive people because you cant do it while youre ingame

if you use oculus

and doing it every time you change worlds

no way

[neon flume]

There's a workaround in #full-body-tracking posted by Arcane.
https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/337801456415539200/496866036994277377
This has worked even for me with a Kinect simulating vive trackers. I expect it should work for Oculus + Vive pucks. It's not great since you have do to it each avatar swap or world change but it's better than nothing for now.

[umbral reef]

You do realize animations are far from gone?
Just have to learn how to use the new unity system and there is only one proper thing I can think off that you can't do anymore

[frail bison]

I understand vrchat's move to be more user freindly but I kinda liked it for its more edgy side

[umbral reef]

They are more preventing the stuff no one enjoyed (Crashers) and with that just take away other stuff because welll reasons...

[frail bison]

Yeah I mean sure a Russian telling me to "go commit die" (only way to say it nicely) was kinda annoying late at night it kinda grew on me. Along with the fact that 90% of female avatars are guys

[restive cosmos]

HMMMM, how about we can file player reports huh, or they actually join when you request a mod

[rough pulsar]

@restive cosmos #moderation-reports

It ain't the best but it'll do ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral reef]

Second thing is not stuff they can fix
First thing tho- if you record and report them they can be beaned

[restive cosmos]

Fair enough

[umbral reef]

Same that [e-mail] is a thing

[late horizon]

Any news on the full body tracking since the update?

[umbral reef]

I like the mail more myself

[restive cosmos]

I was in a room once with like 15-20 people i knew for sure where crashers and i requested a mod like 3 times, waited 20-30 minutes, no one came

[umbral reef]

@late horizon still borked

[late horizon]

Boo

[rough pulsar]

@late horizon When a fix comes they'll likely make an announcement and a vrc update will happen.

[late horizon]

Yeeeah. Just wanted to make sure it was out there

[rough pulsar]

The devs are well aware, don't worry.

[umbral reef]

Also gallium
What Timezone are you?

[rough pulsar]

UK

[umbral reef]

Then why the f are you awake at 5am today...

[rough pulsar]

My sleep is so fucked it can't even be classed as a sleep pattern anymore 8D

[umbral reef]

Ay

[rough pulsar]

patterns have some kind of structure to them

[shy nest]

expecting someone to come when you call a mod

heh

4000 people on generally and like maybe 10 team members at most

[rough pulsar]

The request mod button is from the old days when the playerbase was small enough they could handle any mod requests via that button.

[restive cosmos]

Remove it then?

If it has no use?

[umbral reef]

Big odds it still has an use just not in the way users think

[shy nest]

probably gets used but only when time can be spared

[thick flare]

when vrchat playerbase drops

[rough pulsar]

If it still has some use or not I don't know, only the vrc mod team do.
And I'm only a discord mod. Don't even get paid, not even in spiders.

[umbral reef]

@rough pulsar you do get payed with hate from users mainly (and some love )

[shy nest]

im actually sorta curious as to why the gray alien was removed

[rough pulsar]

I can definitely say I've had more love (or vague appreciation) than hate from users.

[vocal shard]

Paid with pings

[rough pulsar]

Performance reasons I believe 👽

[thick flare]

i hate you

[umbral reef]

Ow shit I get more hate then love when helping strangers

[shy nest]

i just dont really help people that often

because im an asshole

[thick flare]

mods doesn't get as much hate as the developer