With a quad on an avatar, making a report is super super easy
#vrchat-general-2
median basalt
mighty galleon
what bothers me is when they screenblock with gay porn
umbral reef
True
median basalt
Good luck finding whoever is the source of a giant screenspace sphere
queen mango
So true
rigid crescent
probably not a good sign of mental stability if sex bothers you, especially sex of a certain persuasion.
queen mango
The new system might definitely work in that regard.
BTW, ethics
rigid crescent
ETHICS
mighty galleon
no mic its because i dont like seeing men naked
nor do i like seeing men have sex
rigid crescent
well luckily both are against the rules lol
mighty galleon
i know
im just saying, sex doesnt bother me, i just dont like seeing men do it b/c im straight
i find it disgusting
queen mango
ใชใซ?
rigid crescent
not openly be a bigot in general of a game that has quite a few non-straight players
mighty galleon
well im not a sensitive person
umbral reef
How is saying you dont want to watch thing X being a bigot?
mighty galleon
im also not pc
median basalt
"I don't like seeing men have sex" is not exactly a bigoted position
umbral reef
Its like saying
rigid crescent
IT's not that he doesn't wanna watch it
rigid crescent
That's not really the same but ok lol
queen mango
I suppose "hentai" counts in the same regard
umbral reef
Him thinking its gross does not make him a biggot-
I think plenty of things are gross but should/have to be legal
umbral oracle
I don't like someone forcing me to see something in general. And then you have things like epilepsy inducing effects or blasting crazy loud audio
median basalt
He said he finds it disgusting to see
umbral reef
But ima drop it as its turning against the rules
rigid crescent
"I don't like it because I'm straight" just sounds...off. There's straight people who just don't care one way or another, so how you identify doesn't really have an bearing
yeah same
median basalt
I have heard plenty of gay people speak about lesbian or heterosexual sex the same way tbh
rigid crescent
I just don't want my screen blocked by anything honestly, even if it's something I like
median basalt
Yeah
queen mango
Wait, hold up. What's exactly going on in here?
median basalt
At least the menu renders over everything now
rigid crescent
It coudl be a picture of a kitten, I don't care about it
median basalt
And you can also use your menu while someone is in front of you
rigid crescent
Oh that was one of the best updates
median basalt
Remember the good old days? "Get out of my fucking menu"
thick flare
@queen mango talking about the new beta feature
umbral reef
And also- Keep in mind.
Not everyone is educated the same, if your from an diffrent country the vision on what is sexuality and ect changes a LOT
If you compare America towards some European countries its almost an day and night thing...
rigid crescent
I miss being able to screw with friends when they try and leave
scenic drum
my friends told me that my name is not in the new old hub, how do I get my name in? 
rigid crescent
"OK later guys." and everyone swarms them to block their menu
queen mango
@scenic drum You had to be online before 12/2017
median basalt
Lmao
mighty galleon
probably find the creator and tell them
shy nest
wait how do i see this new old hub 
queen mango
Hmm... Did you send a request letter to the creator?
mighty galleon
i wonder how to find my play date xD
umbral reef
@scenic drum Fairly sure that aint an official spawn what you are talking about
median basalt
I like the new hub tbh, but there's slight performance issues
umbral oracle
The new old hub is not official. I also saw people who I think are missing. It might be an extra criteria beyond just being on before 12/2017
median basalt
I like how there's actually stuff there now
queen mango
@shy nest You could ask the map creator to invite you there.
Or join a friend who is in there
median basalt
Like a chess board and those accessories
scenic drum
I dunno I wasnt active for 2 months, my friends just told me
umbral reef
I still use the oldest hub.. Even though it breaks my game... But im to lazy to change the start up icon for VRC on my pc
twin jacinth
sean, earliest screenshot :P
shy nest
so it requires me to socialize, no thanks ๐
queen mango
@shy nest Oof
mighty galleon
only picture i has is the one with vrpill on newyears when it was at the city place
rigid crescent
Oh man, my camera folder is nice
mighty galleon
b/c he posted it in here
umbral oracle
@umbral reef Do you have a world id for the oldest hub? I'm kind of curious. I am relatively new so I only know of last hub and this one
twin jacinth
If you go into your vrc file and see when the earliest file was created/modified`?
shy nest
i saw iris for the first and last time when I started playing
mighty galleon
deleted that a lot b/c it gotted up to 80gb quite a bit xD
shy nest
havent seen them since
rough pulsar
My camera folder is huge and horrid enough I wrote a little script to parse the filenames to organize them into month & day folders.
median basalt
Nice
rough pulsar
It's a bash script but it'll do the job. Mostly.
mighty galleon
i guess its b/c i never understood the point of pictures that i never take them in game
rough pulsar
Taking stealthy pics of Goblox's ass has become the latest tradition at Improv.
umbral oracle
I always use the steamvr screenshot button instead of the camera
mighty galleon
who?
queen mango
@mighty galleon Maybe you can take them as memories.
Mementos of past times.
mighty galleon
i dont do that elire
rough pulsar
Goblox, guy who hosts the sunday night improv event in vrchat.
umbral reef
@umbral oracle Well tis the oldest hub i know off- But il see if i can snag it once i get home
queen mango
Damn.
rigid crescent
I like taking them with friends, I've got a few as my login screen
twin jacinth
Yeah depends on the person, i like to have it to look back at
mighty galleon
its in the past and should fade away lol
rough pulsar
One of the longest consistently running events in vrchat.
umbral reef
But the code i uses borkes my game and doesnt let my avatars load so it might not work for you also 
rough pulsar
Second only to Gunter's Universe, probably.
median basalt
Bash script?
queen mango
I guess, but It's good to remember who you were beforehand.
median basalt
You're on Linux? Or just using Bash on Windows?
rough pulsar
@mighty galleon Are you on the events discord?
rough pulsar
@median basalt both.
median basalt
Ah
Nice
I got banned from GTA 5 which gave me good reason to switch to Linux. However, the whole VR thing makes me stuck with Windows again.
rough pulsar
I have my pics dir synced to my linux system and tested the script there, then just used it on my windows one via cygwin since that's the master with this folder sync.
queen mango
My pics were stored in my PC hard drive
twin jacinth
i got some russian dude trying to hack my sosialclub now for several days
had to change my password once because he actually managed to get in lol
rough pulsar
I do all my 3D work/VRC dev on my linux machine though, since it's way more powerful than my VR system.
queen mango
@twin jacinth Shame on him.
Russians get bad rep because of them
median basalt
I tried out Linux Mint, I like it but I didn't like the mouse acceleration
rough pulsar
So change it. Best thing about linux, you can configure everything to exactly how you like it.
median basalt
Yeah, just had to figure out how
I thought it was weird the GUI for something like Mint lacked mouse accel options despite adding it in itself
There was literally no accepted solution, I had to put mset 0 0 in some random file that was run on startup or logon.
rough pulsar
Pfft, use xset m, consistent across all distros.
median basalt
Ahh
mighty galleon
oohh i started late november last year
median basalt
Yeah, that was the command I mean
But it only sticks for 1 session
Unless you know where to put it
rough pulsar
Add it to your .xsession :B
mighty galleon
gallium
twin jacinth
@queen mango
Yeah it's a shame
the ''stereotypical'' russians have a bad reputation but most i know are really nice
mighty galleon
i was able to find my install date of vrchat and its further back then i remmeber
rough pulsar
I was able to find my join date too, I'm coming up on my two year anniversary. :O
14th november, 2016
twin jacinth
How did you find it Sean?
I'd like to know my exact date as well
median basalt
In spite of the knuckles, not because of them
queen mango
I must've joined in April 14, 2018
That was after the Ugandan Knuckles meme died down
mighty galleon
i went into my steam and looked at purcheses and it'll tell you asll the dates of games you have
go into account and look at licenses and product key activations
twin jacinth
17 Sep, 2017
Thanks, a nice way to see when^^
rough pulsar
If you first installed vrchat via steam, go here
https://store.steampowered.com/account/licenses/
If you were before that, I hope you still have the vrchat account confirmation email somewhere. ๐
queen mango
5 days till your 1st anniversary of joining VRChat
mighty galleon
only if intro was still a channel
thick flare
there was an intro channel?
mighty galleon
yep
queen mango
Man, what was VRChat like back then?
thick flare
why do they take it away?o0
mighty galleon
idk
rough pulsar
Kind of a relic of when we moved from slack to discord
twin jacinth
Already got my 1 yer anniversary haha
Ooof it's gone by fast
shy nest
i remember the first avatar that I grabbed off a pedestal, was a low poly skeleton from the avatar world that everyone used to use
big al's avatar corridor(?)
rough pulsar
Al's Avatar Corridors
mighty galleon
i remember that
shy nest
thats it
rough pulsar
The first of its kind
mighty galleon
good times
i still have my first avatar upload
its broken as hell but its my first
thick flare
my first avatar grabbed from pedestal is kanna
twin jacinth
i got a link avatar from a dungeon like world, remember that this cat guy asked me if i was new and all and said he'd take me to a avatar world so i could get something cooler
he was a nice guy
shy nest
id always launch in and just see a bunch of anime models sitting on a couch in front of the mirror of old hub
good times
rough pulsar
Jufo, that sounds like you bumped into Zarniwoop.
mighty galleon
lol
shy nest
guess you could say he was the link to that world you went to
livid abyss
I remember the mmd nightclub world 
thick flare
kanna 4ever
mighty galleon
i only ever use male avatars
so at first it was hard to find a good male one
but now all mine are ocs x
twin jacinth
i don't remember the name >.< he was really nice though, think we spent like 30 min to and hour there looking through the avatars and the world
no screenshots either
shy nest
not anything anime related
rough pulsar
It is quite difficult to find decent non-MMD male avatars unless you just do it yourself.
mighty galleon
yeah
thick flare
not too hard
mighty galleon
i pay people to make them now when i have enough money saved
thick flare
just find some stormtrooper avatar
shy nest
i got sanic from gmod ๐
sudden nacelle
I have come to love the ybot, and i made some nice edits for him
mighty galleon
i dont like stormtroopers
shy nest
still the only one ive seen that is from gmod
sudden nacelle
Even made visemes
mighty galleon
i wanted cool looking male avatars
thick flare
how about pepsiman?
queen mango
Uhh, not now, Jaw
shy nest
is y bot the default blue boi?
mighty galleon
no
queen mango
Ooh, Pepsiman
sudden nacelle
Yes
shy nest
fun fact, ybot started in gmod
rough pulsar
Same.
I am now a depressed looking ginger knight dude. It's great.
sudden nacelle
Alsoy ybot is just so great for full body
queen mango
I remember a friend who used that PepsiMan avatar
sudden nacelle
X bot is the red one
mighty galleon
oh
sudden nacelle
Which is the female version
In a way
Lemme look for a nice photo me and a friend made, 1 sec
rough pulsar
If you look at them closely, you'll notice that X bot has more feminine hip proportions compared to Y bot.
shy nest
also fun fact, ybots original name is "Alpha Robot"
crude river
Interesting
mighty galleon
why
twin jacinth
Toga's world O;
Nice picture
rough pulsar
The lighting in that world causes me pain D:
vocal shard
rough pulsar
Or maybe everyone's just using bad shader setups
mighty galleon
maybe
sudden nacelle
No, it was actually weird
twin jacinth
I haven't really noticed that o.O
sudden nacelle
Yes
Pretty old already
Lmao
But yea
I now have likr 10-20 ybot variations
Currently working on a nice bowser ybot. Even made visemes, which look killer imo
mighty galleon
why
sudden nacelle
Why bot
shy nest
like normal bowser?
mighty galleon
?
rough pulsar
Because why not. Remix culture is a wonderful thing.
shy nest
or are we talking a more recent bowser 
sudden nacelle
rough pulsar
I also misread it and thought you'd turned Ybot into IE7 or something horrible.
umbral reef
Does VRC send you an email when you made an acc or?
sudden nacelle
Also deejay, i an going to do bowserette today, because ppl are pushing me to doing it
rough pulsar
Should do.
umbral reef
Well snap- Im unsure if i joined Pre 2018 by like 4 days or after
mighty galleon
who even keeps those emails though
sudden nacelle
But i will put it on the same model, and just make a animstion for the transition
mighty galleon
i remember getting one
rough pulsar
I do, because of laziness.
umbral reef
I keep all my emails lmao
twin jacinth
i never clear my emails
mighty galleon
o.o
rough pulsar
My inbox would make even the hardest of men cry and run away screaming.
mighty galleon
i dont even like having more then 20 emails in it
umbral reef
How do you handle people asking about old stuff then
What if someone is on vacation and you emailed them soemthing 3 weeks ago
sudden nacelle
Search feature
shy nest
I clear my junk email which is where vrchat shit goes for some reason 
mighty galleon
i never email anyone
umbral reef
Might be that i use my email for lots of stuff then but i get like 30+ mails a week atleast over 2 email addresses
twin jacinth
What is the mail vrchat sends from named?
sudden nacelle
Im guessing something@vrchat.com
twin jacinth
Looks like it is Hello@vrchat.com
mighty galleon
gallium, do you remember how you found out about vrchat?
rough pulsar
r/vive on reddit
mighty galleon
interesting
rough pulsar
I'd recently got my vive and had checked out 90% of the free stuff on steam and saw it mentioned in a free non-steam VR stuff post.
umbral reef
I think im one of the few who learned about the game from Steam itself
And i got hooked (and played it) thanks to Youtube
mighty galleon
i dont think many will be the same way i found it xD
inner cape
You play like once a month oclac
sudden nacelle
Xd
rough pulsar
A lot of my core friend group here found it because of the steam release in feb 2017.
mighty galleon
what kinda of oc stories ghosto
umbral reef
Like80% of my hours are before you plebs @inner cape
sudden nacelle
@umbral reef hipster
inner cape
Why did you stop playing
sudden nacelle
umbral reef
Eh- Time and motivation are both things i dont have
Why not
mighty galleon
ghosto i can give you one of my oc's stories, well backrounds xD
inner cape
sudden nacelle
Man
mighty galleon
oh well
rough pulsar
Amazing. A keyboard without MIDI or USB connections. ๐
sudden nacelle
FeelsNotSoGoodMan
inner cape
Use peepee instead 
inner cape
Yes
sudden nacelle
Is pepo allowed?
inner cape
No
mighty galleon
oclac add me in vrchat
twin jacinth
i think it has to do something with it being used in an offensive way or something similar which lead it to being banned?
not 100% sure though.
umbral reef
Add me in vrc 
umbral reef
Cant expect lazy me to add people
mighty galleon
whats yours
inner cape
Ye, media turned the poor frog gay
umbral reef
Oclac
rough pulsar
That stupid green frog is not allowed because it has had associations with political hate groups.
That's what the rules say anyway.
sudden nacelle
Heck
inner cape
Frick
sudden nacelle
But he so cute 
inner cape
rough pulsar
๐ @sudden nacelle @inner cape
inner cape
sudden nacelle
Wat
inner cape
Excuse me gallium
rough pulsar
You know exactly what.
inner cape
vocal shard
wut ?
sudden nacelle
You eyeballin us like i eyeball that xbot?
shy nest
what about pp
inner cape
Its just an emote
shy nest
he look similar to froggo but he aint
mighty galleon
deejay
sudden nacelle
Also wats up nerd @vocal shard
mighty galleon
suck my blood?
vocal shard
nothing much, boring week, boring day
sudden nacelle
Yh same
inner cape
Same
shy nest
guess i gotta settle with pppog
inner cape
shy nest
i undid it
sudden nacelle
Delet this
mighty galleon
lol
umbral oracle
mighty galleon
lyuma, fight them
sudden nacelle
Not like we interrupt anyone
shy nest
smh why did all the good emotes need to be pepe related
sudden nacelle
shy nest
mighty galleon
im not a memer so i dont like pepe
shy nest
sudden nacelle
Me big meme
twin jacinth
I'm not a big ''memer'' but pepe is a pretty good meme when used right
mighty galleon
eh nah, i find most memes annoying
queen mango
What about the Star Wars memes?
shy nest
bigfrog is cool
olive mulch
yo
twin jacinth
Annyoing? how come
mighty galleon
i dont find them funny and most the times its so used it becomes annoying
olive mulch
memes are gud
mighty galleon
nah
rigid crescent
"A fine addition to my collection" is one of my favorite star wars ones
olive mulch
smh
olive mulch
thx
sudden nacelle
People that like the prequel memes have the high ground
olive mulch
can u canโt
mighty galleon
what?
queen mango
Obi Wan
sudden nacelle
Hello there
queen mango
Plus, I hate sand. It's coarse and gets into anything and everything
sudden nacelle
queen mango
Star Wars Prequel memes
mighty galleon
...huh?
inner cape
Feel of sand under the nails
olive mulch
nerds
inner cape
queen mango
In case you haven't heard, Sean. People are meming the crap out of the first three Star Wars Episodic movies.
olive mulch
oh
queen mango
Oof
queen mango
What? No
mighty galleon
i just dont find them funny
olive mulch
by the gods
sudden nacelle
queen mango
He's just not well-informed.
olive mulch
oh
sudden nacelle
mighty galleon
no its b/c i dont like memes
shy nest
hello there
mighty galleon
i find them annoying 985 of the time
olive mulch
what
mighty galleon
98%*
rough pulsar
Memes got annoying when people got overly aware of them and made it more than just an in-joke.
mighty galleon
they werent ever funny to me
queen mango
Well, f**k.
olive mulch
memes gud for me
mighty galleon
i just have a different sense of humor only very few things i will find funny
rigid crescent
ugh you're jsutgjt0wtj0h
rigid crescent
it's hard not being rude sometimeslol
olive mulch
0w0
mighty galleon
just be rude
rigid crescent
owo nani
mighty galleon
its easier
rigid crescent
nah i'll get banned lol
mighty galleon
then dm it to me lol
rigid crescent
also a waste of time
mighty galleon
ok
olive mulch
uwu
rigid crescent
the bowsette avatars are coming
inner cape
olive mulch
the wat
mighty galleon
i hope they're good
thick flare
bowsette
sudden nacelle
Im making one today
rigid crescent
Bowser after he eats the Super Crown
sudden nacelle
Back off normies
mighty galleon
you mean wears
olive mulch
dont worry jawbones i got your back
rigid crescent
Someone has a good CM3D version, hoping it goes public
olive mulch
normies begone
mighty galleon
what normies
sudden nacelle
@olive mulch i made a bowser ybot, and people keep preasuring me to make ybot bowsette
So its happening now
olive mulch
where did we go wrong
thick flare
well
tall ingot
Is it true we can't run videos in rooms like hangout house very well any more, or must those world authors simply update their worlds, etc?
sudden nacelle
Or rather when im home
mighty galleon
isnt it rarer for people to not like memes? so wouldnt you majority who like it be the normies?
olive mulch
shush
sudden nacelle
No
thick flare
majority of the internet population
sudden nacelle
Yung people like memes, and there is seperation between normie memes and ascended memelords
sudden nacelle
Back off then normie
winged quartz
Memes am I right xD
sudden nacelle
screeching frog that is perhibited on this server
thick flare
๐ธ
sudden nacelle
thick flare
oh, it is green, probably should make it my profile pic
mighty galleon
i only have a moster girl thats a frog
mighty galleon
i also have slime girls
sudden nacelle
I think i just saw 1 or 2 in vrchat
rough pulsar
The irony is how many who used to be classed as 'normies' are now obsessed with memes. ๐ค
mighty galleon
gallium, 20 is still young right?
rough pulsar
I bloody hope so because I'm closer to 30.
mighty galleon
lol
vocal shard
you old AF
earnest ermine
oh no
sudden nacelle
Got em
vocal shard
man, it's great to see grandpas playing this game tho
sudden nacelle
Xd
mighty galleon
i wonder if svel will ever unblock me
vocal shard
queen mango
Why?
mighty galleon
idk
rough pulsar
I was gonna say lol what, but I'm older than people I think are older than me more often than I'd like.
thick flare
because you sent him dm?
mighty galleon
yep xD
queen mango
What's a DM?
thick flare
direct message
umbral reef
Gallium how old do you guess everyone here ๐ค
queen mango
Oh
rough pulsar
I'm gonna say average of 23, with extreme outliers of course.
sudden nacelle
22
mighty galleon
a lot of people i meet are 15
queen mango
16 here
umbral reef
And what would i be slapped with
olive mulch
same
vocal shard
most people i met in random worlds are under 18
mighty galleon
yeah
sudden nacelle
Most desktop peasants are below 18
rough pulsar
Youngest I know personally is 15 and oldest... I'm not actually sure, but pretty old. Like over 40 easily.
forest salmon
ouch
rough pulsar
that sucks D:
umbral reef
Tried to not break it ๐ ?
sudden nacelle
Yikes
olive mulch
but im getting a new one today
rough pulsar
Replacement or something different/better?
olive mulch
something better
vocal shard
how did you break it
olive mulch
i put it on my head
sudden nacelle
Yeeted it
mighty galleon
big head?
olive mulch
and my left ear broke off
sudden nacelle
Lol
olive mulch
razer quality
twin jacinth
Razer ๐คข
sudden nacelle
rough pulsar
I once managed to make my vive do a backflip off my head. That was a moment of severe panic. Thank fuck for thick carpet.
twin jacinth
o.o
olive mulch
but now im getting a new razer
rough pulsar
Nah, they're fine.
olive mulch
i dont even have vr
twin jacinth
Please don't buy razer, it's overpriced with mostly bad quality in my experience
It was good before but now they are a big no for me
olive mulch
too late
twin jacinth
i loved my Razer Naga Molten Edition and i had it for 6 years before it broke
now they last like 6 months to a year
rough pulsar
Vive's great, Vive Pro has the res + lighthouse tracking quality, but you cannot beat WMR for portability.
It's got shit lenses, but I kinda love my Acer WMR for the fact I just need one power outlet and some free space for VR wherever I go.
mighty galleon
eh gallium, the lenses on vive suck imo b/c they have color leakage
b/c its circular
vocal shard
i wish i had that much money to buy multiple VR headsets
twin jacinth
.< that's not very long
I'd recommend getting something else next time.
Wireless is a big +
rough pulsar
Ha, I got my Acer WMR for free from altspace
olive mulch
i wish i wasnโt too lazy to buy it
rough pulsar
Hm, never noticed any dispersion on either of my Vives.
winged quartz
They gave you a WMR?
queen mango
Woah.
sudden nacelle
on either of my vives
forest salmon
"either my Vives"
mighty galleon
the color leaks all the time in mine, specially in dark worlds
sudden nacelle
several people are typing
rough pulsar
Last year when they nearly went under I was part of a temporary volunteer mod team and when microsoft 'saved' them they sent a load of us WMR dev units as thanks.
sudden nacelle
winged quartz
Ohh shit
twin jacinth
sometimes on my vive i can see a small black dot, certain surfaces.
but hey that's why you have warranty
winged quartz
That's awesome
rough pulsar
@mighty galleon Do you need your glasses in VR or not?
queen mango
Whaat?
How come Philippines never get the new gizmos?
vocal shard
Hmm...๐ค
winged quartz
I didn't know you got to be a mod there
rough pulsar
It was only for a few weeks when they thought they were going under.
Hm, I'm wonderinf if they are contributing to the chromatic dispersion you're seeing. Is it more intense towards the edges?
mighty galleon
yep
olive mulch
just need to survive 4 more hours an i can do vrchat
mighty galleon
edges is terrible but it goes all the way to the middle kinda like a triangle
but blocking
blocky*
rough pulsar
Is it any different without your glasses?
mighty galleon
nope
merry gale
Is there any specific date for when the new update for vrchat will release?
mighty galleon
but its probably b/c i can see all the circular pixel of the vive lenses
never had the problem with the oculus i had
rough pulsar
Well there's no circular pixels, that'll be the ridges of the fresnel lenses
twin jacinth
''We are hopefully releasing v2018.3.2 next week, barring any major problems'' - Last Friday at 05:11
#announcements
mighty galleon
idk what its call but the circular things on the lenses
vocal shard
Will there be added more emoticons to the discord server (โ_โ)?
mighty galleon
thats gets smaller to the middle
rough pulsar
Some chromatic dispersion is expected, but the amount you're getting seems to be way more than normal. I'm wondering if there's an issue with the lenses or the unique HMD lens calibration profile.
rough pulsar
If you haven't had it too long maybe try getting an exchange, could just be defective.
mighty galleon
eh nah cant
been to long xD
maybe in the future ill go back to oculus
lot better
rough pulsar
Pfft, with stuff like the Pimax 5k on the horizon, Oculus are gonna have to step up their game to stay competitive.
mighty galleon
idk what that is
merry gale
Do you think vive will make something to the pimax? They cant just release the same old vive but with better res again
like the pimax*
mighty galleon
have a good time gallium
rough pulsar
Upside to Lighthouse based devices is their modularity. Can swap bits out whenever.
twin jacinth
Is it even possible to have such high resolution with the current gpus/cpus with stable 90+ fps?
4k on each eye is crazy (Pimax 8k)
not sure what the 5k has
vocal shard
i dunno if the pimax will work that much
rough pulsar
The 8k upscales a 1440p signal
vocal shard
it will be pretty expensive and the requirement are pretty big too
twin jacinth
Aah okai
Yeah, that's really the upper high end pc's only.
Price of the headset + the computer >.< expensive hobby
rough pulsar
VR is an expensive hobby, getting into it and expecting it to be cheap is just a setup for disappointment.
Or increased love for free food, hard to tell.
winged quartz
It's even worse in shit countries feelsbad
vocal shard
apparently you need at least a 1080TI to get acceptable framerate
cold talon
Ti yeee boiii
rough pulsar
Might be mitigated somewhat with the 8K if it has eye tracking and if foveated rendering comes into play.
And now I am off, have fun and don't make me return to a dumpster fire. :>
cold talon
vocal shard
you know it's going to be a shitshow at some point
cold talon
Quick get the lighter
vocal shard
๐ฅ
cold talon
can navmesh be used without scripts?
twin jacinth
TI
Ooof
I don't see myself buying a new vr headset for a long time, same with GPU.
Vive itself is expensive enough
inner cape
north axle
Wish I had a job without leaving VR.
north axle
I know some people teach in VR too.
What really sucks is, right now, VR seems to be good only for social interaction. I wish we could go beyond that.
umbral reef
Well- It is being used for education but its an way to practice- not to educate
Surgeons can practice dangerous operations in a setup with the headset and the real tools connected to an pc with special software
north axle
Any ideas how to make VR useful for software engineers / designers / game developers / lawyers / accountants?
Hell, if I could work without getting out of VRChat, I'd be really interested in this.
twin jacinth
o.o
don't you get tired from being in vr?
umbral reef
Software engineers? There is already stuff out for that- But its fairly field specific and verry underdeveloped
The Designer world is mainly the house market or kitchen stores- Those just load an room and throw the headset on ya so you can sit and look
But thats all from location to costumer
Not actually creating things within VR
north axle
Staying in VR does make you feel tired, but I'm used to it.
twin jacinth
i don't think you'll find a job that you can be 100% in VR
but somewhere between 30-50% i'd say is possible (rough estimate)
north axle
One guy I kept joining over the past couple of days said he's been in the same instance for over 40 hours.
I think he's still in there.
vocal shard
some people have a lot of free time
sudden nacelle
God i wish that were me
twin jacinth
i forgot about streaming
if you get really popular with streaming you can be in vr for the time you stay awake and make money at the same time
but the problem is you have to get popular first
umbral reef
Also- Streaming is far from an stable option...
queen mango
I've heard
north axle
Becoming popular isn't that hard, but streaming itself is pretty inconsistent, though it may be rewarding sometimes.
umbral reef
Its something you do or on the side
Once you go fulltime you often can do it for a few years before switching back/making a career change on the side if you cant get more income sources not about you
Or you get so massive you do it for a few years and live off that...
inner cape
Streaming hits on the feels sometimes, even the most social people get sick of it
north axle
For sure, but people always get sick of any kind of job.
inner cape
True
Streaming did hit me pretty badly back when I had daily schedule
That was too much
umbral reef
Well you kinda work an side job if you stream like that
north axle
Bring ๐๐ป virtual ๐๐ป economy ๐๐ป to ๐๐ป VRChat. ๐๐ป
(So I can charge people for my artworks without getting on anyone's nerves.)
north axle
VRCoin is better than VRChat mugs and T-shirts instead of currency.
umbral reef
Every reported hacker that is above the user rank you get one full coin :^)
inner cape
E currencies are dependent on the market, if we create an asset and comission trading service we can make it legit
Athough who would bother
Using this
north axle
Ah, someone made the same question not too long ago. Apparently, no, it's a digital currency.
I feel like they could've gone for it in 2016/2017.
inner cape
Any micro transaction in game currency can be considered sort of a cryptocurrency
But we cant mine it
north axle
Well, grinding is already a thing in VRChat. We've got quite a competitive user base from the look of it, so I imagine if we had a currency, people would definitely start farming it.
umbral reef
Not really pan, it would be more of an meme coin then anything else and those are far from stable
and little kids dont understand/buy crypto coins...
inner cape
Social ranks, currencies, jobs
umbral reef
Doenst second life have something like this?
inner cape
Vrc 
north axle
But what if no one could exchange "VRCoin" for IRL money?
inner cape
Then they could only buy assets and modelling related stuff
umbral reef
Then its an Virtual coint and not an crypto coin
inner cape
Aka general materials
umbral reef
And if you try hard enough anything can get an IRL value ๐
Or they would be fairly useless
inner cape
Which just gets leaked here and there, so, not that
north axle
I like the idea as long as any sort of currency has a future in here.
And even it doesn't become a thing, we already have an unofficial currency.
Avatars.
inner cape
Mhm
north axle
Speaking of which, people should get rewarded with avatars for beating a boss or achieving something special in game worlds.
I've seen a few worlds doing that, but that's still pretty rare.
inner cape
Seen that, yea
opaque remnant
and who are making these avatars?
umbral reef
Big odds once we get the UDON stuff it will become more of an thing
plush nymph
should have an actual little wallet/inventory that ye can 'physically' take the moneys out of
:V
inner cape
Mhm
umbral reef
You know- The game has first to be bug/hacker free before anything money related becomes a thing
inner cape
See you in 2020
sick oriole
I'm going to laugh when things are sold at an overpriced value and players start saying "I only associate with yellow and purple tier players"
north axle
"Come back in 10 years..."
sick oriole
Lets go $1,800 custom avatars
inner cape
"It only took 40 years... "
north axle
Nah, I'm sure we could have more ranks by that time.
north axle
Okay, okay. You know what? We can make our own avatar auction.
sick oriole
You forgot the Casual player rank
One who only logs on 15 hours a week or something like that
north axle
Someone can easily make a world for commissioners / avatar sellers and charge them with a small fee in case they sell their product.
If VRC Traders finished their hub, they could've done the same thing, but right now, it's a completely free market.
sick oriole
At any rate it is time for me to head into work. Have fun all
north axle
Have fun working.
inner cape
Wait
You seriously gonna go for it?
Like, display avatar and then sell it on an auction, who bids more, gets the ava
north axle
I could participate in this for sure.
north axle
The biggest problem right now is the absence of web panels, but as soon as we get something instead of the old panels, it's gonna be much easier.
inner cape
That wouldnt be more different from avatar world
Plus asset leaking will be everywhere
inner cape
So selling big, unique ones would be better
umbral reef
How will you get OC avatars without making an loss though Pan?
inner cape
Thats the auction risk for you
north axle
It's all about advertisement showing as much of the avatar you're interested in as possible.
inner cape
Thats where underapriciated things come through tho, it took me months to find a shader to do such a small thing on my avatar, which for me is big, but for others wont be worth a penny
olive mulch
yโall
umbral reef
Also- People have to be willingly to pay for an avatar they dont 'love'
Its not like lets say an book where even if you find it ok paying a few bucks is worth it
Its more like art from non famous people... You have to like it enough to even think about buying it
north axle
Lots of people are buying avatars in VRC Traders.
Many of them get scammed as well, so they had to come up with new regulations.
vocal shard
scammed ?
vocal shard
pretty dumb to pay for something that you arent guaranteed to get
north axle
We do have avatar pedestals though.
Nonetheless, some people managed to get away with violating the rules.
Most of them are banned on VRCT.
vocal shard
because it's easier and faster than to learn by yourself
north axle
A lot of people always tell me stuff like, "It's too hard for me, I'd rather pay someone else to do it for me."
vocal shard
blender isnt that hard once you are familiar with it
it just take time
a lot of time
twin jacinth
If you have money but not time - buy avatars
you have time but not money - make avatars
profit for both sides
north axle
I should consider making avatars. Ever since I graduated, 75% of my entire time was spent in the most unproductive ways imaginable.
twin jacinth
If you have an interest in it and find it funny or simply want to make some money, go for it^^
north axle
I'm more concerned about wasting my time not gaining any work experience I could mention in the resume rather than money. But money's always good too, you know.
mighty galleon
i get most my avatars made from people in vrc traders
inner cape
its not hard, just learn it
north axle
I love that you just said that at the same time.
mighty galleon
hmm?
north axle
Just a thought about your messages expressing different points in this conversation.
mighty galleon
oh
mighty galleon
what do you commision xd
mighty galleon
oh
north axle
My main role in VRCT is World Commissioner BTW.
umbral reef
Il commision an avatar but i can only pay with bullying or no bullying
cold ibex
Id love to give people the avatars I make, but theyโre shit so fuck
twin jacinth
Can you make an avatar from scratch? i'll give u 1000 minecraft diamonds
north axle
Oh, never mind, I'm a "World Artist", there.
mighty galleon
pan make my world for me for free please
north axle
I do everything for free.
umbral reef
Give me your money for free :^)
inner cape
World comissioning 
north axle
What kind of world do you need?
mighty galleon
hmm? oh mostly just my apartment done xD i got the layout of it done, so just need things made
twin jacinth
For free? that does not really benefit you does it?
O: nani
mighty galleon
gives him more things to do jufo and more training
cold ibex
Some people do it for practice
twin jacinth
Yeah true that
mighty galleon
i draw for friends as practice
twin jacinth
That's for friends though
I'd never make my friends pay for something i can do for free :P
north axle
Actually, I'm just a manipulator trying to make people consider visiting my Patreon page.
mighty galleon
lol
inner cape
mighty galleon
well my drawings mostly crap so i dont think strangers want it xD
twin jacinth
i got my avatar for free from someone
I didn't have to donate money but it did it anyways because it was nice of him
when you mentioned it, it's good bussiness to sometimes give out free stuff^^
uncut trail
ETA when new patch release ?
twin jacinth
#announcements if it's for the sosial update
uncut trail
I heard if your still op in beta you can get banned ?
north axle
If you're just using the beta and not altering your launch options, you're fine.
mighty galleon
im to lazy to make things so i save money on the side and pay people to make them
twin jacinth
They are not banning people for it at the moment but if it gets to problematic they will come with an announcement
north axle
Hey, have you seen mine? One of my greatest achievements is the Green Screen avatar.
olive mulch
yโall need to see mine
mighty galleon
so pan when that world making lol
north axle
Send me the plans of your apartment first so I can see what I can do about it.
mighty galleon
ok
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/493173803690622977/493760452765941760/unknown.png thats what i have done so far on it
so its mostly need the stuff in the bedroom and kitchen done xD
mighty galleon
later ill give you details in dm b/c i dont have all the stuf on my laptop
north axle
Honestly, I rarely use Blender for the architecture. I often find issues with UV mapping, but it works and I don't have to bother with the colliders.
north axle
I don't have any problems with modeling though, it's just the UV that I don't get so far.
I'm assuming you already did before recreating it in Blender.
mighty galleon
i did but, that floor plan is way to big and is several pages, hard to understand so i'd have to re-draw it
the first time i did it, it was foot by foot which was 1 foot = 1 cm
north axle
Scaling isn't a problem, really. When I was creating my own maps for Counter-Strike almost 10 years ago, that was a big issue though.
mighty galleon
oh i know, its just when i was doing it in blender i made it to exact scale to my apartment xD which was a real pain
sterile drift
So I went and read a whole "game is dead" argument that went on yesterday. Sad I missed it.
twin jacinth
People who assumes a game is dead because of a decrease in active users
ooof, people will always come with even for the biggest games with 30+mil users :/
north axle
It was pretty "dead" to me until September 19th. Then they announced the new system, and tons of old users are coming back now.
sterile drift
"Oh the game is dead because it has less users than when people saw it as a meme"
Also yea a lot of people seem to be playing now
north axle
They're using only Beta now.
twin jacinth
The game has a steady player base now with about 5-6k daily active users and a peak of 8-9k monthly
It's been like this for a few months now, it's not dying :P
sterile drift
Wonder if they'll play after beta is gone
Oh I know it isn't dying
People are just ignorant
twin jacinth
Yupp that's true
north axle
I've got to be honest, I've never seen as many friends online sharing the same instance with me in my entire life as I did after this update.
sterile drift
Either that or are stubborn and can't change their view even after being proven wrong
north axle
Except maybe back in the old days, but I didn't know then all that well.
twin jacinth
1 of the 2 i feel like
Fez, i've met 90% of my good friends after the ''Uganda'' peroid
sterile drift
@brisk bone All the intelligent conversations happen in friends instances nowadays because of that stuff
Kinda sad but that's how it is
north axle
Some Roblox meme guy friended me because we had a nice little conversation about improving our VRChat experience. Hopefully, eventually, he'll get converted into a normal user.
twin jacinth
Because people are crashing and attention whores most of us keeps in private lobbies
north axle
Do you remember.
The 21st night of December?
north axle
We've had better, but it's still nice.
sterile drift
I wish I played before the huge influx
But I'm glad I met the people I did
Like when I started
umbral reef
You know- How about you grumpy faces add eachother and play together 
Ezpz
New friends made
floral patrol
Lmao
north axle
If you did, error.mdl made The New Old Hub with a huge wall of names of people who played before December 15th.
sterile drift
Basically l0l
umbral reef
Welp chop chop- Start throwing your VRC names in here so atleast one person can add them
sterile drift
@north axle oh I know error so I've seen it
twin jacinth
Ooo
I should be there then, but how did he get the names?
queen mango
Good evening from Asia here
north axle
Top secret stuff, but the intention was good, so don't mind that.
twin jacinth
I'll start it
My name in game is the same as here
umbral reef
Same here~
north axle
You need to go under the ground through a secret entrance.
mystic steeple
biosignal
floral patrol
<--- Akumano
mystic steeple
im lonely and i dont understand a shit of whats happening in vrchat
floral patrol
also ive seen you in game before pan diman, it was months ago tho i just remember that name
twin jacinth
I'm at work so add me
can't add people rn
is it just the old hub pan? need to take a look at that
queen mango
Elire.
Basically, same name.
mystic steeple
like i see afk people way too often and i see people who just pose with each other and dont do anything not even talkign and its just creepy
opaque remnant
what do you mean by pose?
north axle
By the way, that world isn't public. You can join it only if you have friends in that instance. One person has been in there for over 40/50 hours.
mystic steeple
like they both do an animation and just stand therer
queen mango
I think his name goes by BrokenMindFrame, if that's what you mean, Pan
mystic steeple
it's two completely different users and they dont do anything else
sterile drift
Are you joking, Pan?
mystic steeple
and i find it real creepy
mighty galleon
which world pan?
sterile drift
OOF
north axle
New Old Hub.
sterile drift
Hey jaw
sudden nacelle
There is legit ppl who sleep in vr
mighty galleon
oh yeah that
sudden nacelle
Yes
mystic steeple
are you serious jawbones
mighty galleon
who's the owner? i need to ask to put my name up
umbral reef
Welp i should have all ya fella's added now-
I love the new website
floral patrol
I sleep in vr from time to time
mighty galleon
ok
mystic steeple
how tf do u sleep in vr
queen mango
Fall asleep?
sudden nacelle
U lie down on ur back
mighty galleon
are you friends with him pan?
north axle
Everyone has their own ways.
sudden nacelle
And snore away
umbral reef
YOu just like die for a short while
north axle
Yeah.
floral patrol
Lmao
mighty galleon
can you ask him for me? lol
floral patrol
Its not too hard
mystic steeple
where do you place the controllers
opaque remnant
i've fallen asleep in the pug in front of the mirror. apparently i snore
sudden nacelle
Loading dock is where i would place em
mystic steeple
htc?
floral patrol
I goto the sleep place
sudden nacelle
Ye
floral patrol
๐
sterile drift
Isn't it like really unhealthy or whatever to sleep in VR?
mystic steeple
a normal person would just turn off their computers and go to bed
opaque remnant
i got a private world with beds and a sky mirror now though
sudden nacelle
Probably
floral patrol
Yeah probably
twin jacinth
i can't fall asleep with the vr on impossible unless i pass out while wearing it which is a good thing (Never happened)
having the vr on and sleeping is bad for you
mystic steeple
i feel like it's unhealthy as fuck but i should do more research
north axle
Probably as much as having a phone next to your face.
sudden nacelle
People are losing themselves in vr
mystic steeple
but im not going to sleep because i can break my headset
and if i break my headset i break my lens and break my eyes
queen mango
Times have changed a lot, Jaw
mystic steeple
yeah its bs
twin jacinth
cables chocking you to death if you move a lot
''23 year old killed by falling in sleep in vr, chocked to death''
floral patrol
I have the audio strap, so i just untighten it abit
sterile drift
Chalk
mighty galleon
i cant sleep in vr since i sleep on my stomach
floral patrol
And i have the wire run under my pillow
queen mango
I've heard
floral patrol
Vr is my home at this point ๐
mighty galleon
lol
sterile drift
I use Oculus so
mystic steeple
do you guys get offended if i ask you if you have a job or school
floral patrol
I use vive
umbral reef
Its so bad for your eyes and mental health though...
floral patrol
i goto school
sterile drift
@mystic steeple I'm in class rn lol
mighty galleon
im currently unemployed right now b/c im trying to move to another state
twin jacinth
i work full time
I'm at work right now
umbral reef
And boy the costs of having an pc and glasses run all night every night
floral patrol
Kinda am
mystic steeple
really i havent found somebody able to talk in this game yet
sterile drift
Ooferoni
mystic steeple
might be because im european
floral patrol
I live in canada
mystic steeple
and europeans dont speak english and tend to not say anything
umbral reef
Bio im not sure what europa you are from but -- What?
twin jacinth
Oooi i'm from Europe
i speak :(
queen mango
Oof, I'm from the Philippines
umbral reef
Almost every younger person within europa knows basic english...
twin jacinth
Yupp
umbral reef
Lmao everyone in my country can atleast speak broken english
mystic steeple
all i have found is people who just dance with computer made animations, stay afk, do weird poses and none of them talked
and i feel like the game is creepy for this reason
umbral reef
Try at an later more EU friendly time (and day)
mighty galleon
<.<
mighty galleon
what worlds bio
mystic steeple
uhh