#vrchat-general-2
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If this is accidental and is anything related to that guy who came here a month ago talking about getting banned for a "modified client" that was actually just the beta build, then this seems like something that needs addressing.
it's not a modified client
Yes, but the game would see it as one.
the beta client connects to it's own line of instances
all the command does, is change which server the client connects to
well best be address in canny or email so dont become exploit
Hmm. Ok. Well I was just going off that previous discussion.
but, like weve been told here. it's not recommended
With the guy who said he'd never used any form of modified client.
etherway best just do correct way from steam properties
Friend says that... "We clicked on the "opt in beta" and then added the launch option vrchat devs provided"
Which suggests to me it is some kind of bug allowing the two groups to mingle.
yeah.... the launch option wasn;t meant to be shared
Since it seems like people are getting help. I was curious. Would 20mbps w/ internet be enough to run VRChat??
yea
It's weird because when I connect to a room, it either disconnects me right away or in a few minutes of being there to the loading screen
there rare random bug that does been in vrchat for long time
only happen to one person for couple days
then stop doing it
Not sure if your talking about my issue. But it happens everytime I try and play
I'd say like 3 seconds or something
I mean I may be wrong with my time, could be a few mins but it seems instant so
well use to be call like 5 min disconnect bug only have couple day
it hard to track down
only happen few people or some people write off think it internet lol
it use to happen to me and Rad before
Ah I see. But yeah mine happens instantly sometimes.
hey how can you pm people in game
Not implemented yet.
oh
just messenge them on discord and tell them get OVRdrop
Is like no one playing on the beta version? That's it, I am going back to the old VRchat
Basically because people found a way to use beta client on the main servers
So no one is on the beta servers
.pog
anyone wanna play yugioh in vrchat
i kicked somebody in the nuts on battle discs
(has a question, but doesn't know if this is the best place to ask it)
ok ty!
too easy
Does this count as a question?
Yes
oh
So everyone in beta has you blocked if you have less than 300 hours? 🤔 quality decision xD
how to get new users 101
@solemn spade if people block you based on that
then it's not people wou want to be around anyway
no
so whats the ranking systems
you can see everyone
you can't see new peoples shaders, particles, and animations by default, I changed that immediately though, it's pretty obvious and in your face that you can and should edit your settings
Yep, every safety level for each rang is customizable to how you want it.
hmm
it's basically like most games settings: pick the quality you want
gotcha people made it sound like people with less than 300 hours were invis -_-
yeah everyone is overreacting or making judgements without even playing it
how do you know they havent tho
seems bad though 🤷
its not like the beta is populated very much
I tried the beta for a bit, checked out some stuff and switched back
only met 1 person in that time
Its hard to find people witin the beta but its not insanely rare
really? I met roomfulls of people and used the opportunity to make new friends
then got my friend group in on it
and we collected as many people into rooms as possible lmao
🤔
my friend group being online at the same time is like buying a winning lottery ticket
comes off as a terirrible update tbh
and they all in the same/very similar timezones 😂
It is an needed update but its not perfect
this is probably my favorite update to date, and I'm really hoping it actually goes through
it feels like a more rounded game
I mean I'm not saying this update is bad or anything
the only complaints I've heard are from crashers or people who didn't get their expected rank, but the latter at least from my group immediately went to "I should try making maps and avatars then so I can rank up"
which I personally see as a positive
it's incentive and something to work towards imo
instead of just standing around
Well- the giving rank is fairly retarded for an large group of users
Fairly sure someone with barely 100 hours and someone with 1K should not get the same rank 👀
"make maps for your overlords" /s
no one knows what gives you a higher rank, so I'm assuming people will just start trying everything
Or someone like Pan not being one of the highest ranks evne though he has made very popular maps...
but exploring everything the game has to offer isn't bad
🤔 how to get into a social game if you are new and excluded from social interaction because of it
Seems counter-intuitive .
@earnest ermine I'm tired of that strawman though
There are plenty of complaints about the new system
Also- An thing i really dislike myself is the showing of ranks in the namtags
That aren't just "my rank is too low" or "I can't crash people"
I'm fine with user I guess, I just dont want to feel like I have to make shit and rank up to hang with other peeps
^
@solemn spade that's what I was asking
I think people being able to choose if they want to see aspects of your avatars doesn't really exclude you from talking to them
You sure?
pretty sure
Unless the defaults block a shitton of stuff, like they do now
Like no point in playing the game if your new and 90% of the community has you off limits cause of it
Yeah basically
if someone is gonna exclude you because of your rank then they're not the kind of people you wanna hang with
Lmao- I suck at talking, the only reason i can even get people to properly talk to me if they are strangers is because i got animations
Just like what happened in those L4D servers
@stone vector not necessarily. The game leads people to believe that they cannot be safe until all newer users are floating Y bots.
@stone vector Thats not what im hitning at- Im more disliking that its an thing over all, people will want to be friends with X 'because he has the higherst rank' and shit
And streamers/content creators will bitch about not being it and ect
going to hold off on buying a vr headset >_<
it seems everyone is refusing to acknowledge that it's very obvious you can customize your settings, or refusing to want to allow users to choose what they want to see
@earnest ermine you can customize your settings, but the game practically begs you not to.
What?
That is going to affect a lot of newer players, both ways.
The problem is that many seem to have a "i want to show off my stuff" mindset.
@ruby needle and what is wrong with that exactly?
Dude, you're not seeing the bigger picture.
Elijah- If it throws up warnings that lowering the recommended settings isnt smart to do...
ITs almost begging you to not touch them
Nothing but you cant blame the system for a selfish mindset
It basically says "we strongly discourage you from lowering your settings"
some people just want to Vrchat not vr-be-forced-to-see-your-particles-and-shaders
They say "stick to the defaults and you're fine"
I think that not showing the rank in the tag would be good, just make it so if you select that person you see their rank. Sure I'd rather it not show peoples ranks altogether (except nuisances, those guys can go fuck themselves for all I care) but making them actively visible will cause unconscious bias against certain ranks
@earnest ermine ok cool, then turn them off. Problem solved
yeah thanks for allowing me dad
My issue is that the defaults are very restrictive and literally don't allow 99% of shaders unless you're a "Trusted User"
if the update goes through as is, at least
I like the ranks because of the point I made in my canny post
Like there are 3 big things that i think are legit complains
The base settings are harsh with how hard it is to rank up
The ranks giving dont make any sense for an large group of users
The nametags showing the ranks
it is true people are gonna have their big streamer egos inflated but the features the update brings for me outweighs the negatives
https://vrchat.canny.io/open-beta/p/i-appreciate-the-beta-system this being my canny post
Can't wait to see all the complaints about people still getting crashed despite being on max safety
Or people being crashed by veterans
this system is not a 100% solution and not targets that
That feeling you get when the devs don't remember you, even though you used to be frequently online back in 2016 VRChat. #OculusDK2Life
feelsbadman
the beta update is a step forward not a permanent end all be all, let them try to improve the game, make changes after the general public has an input
Like, very bad feeling that you've been forgotten
oof
The beta update is just another step towards limiting avatar creators in some way
And then dismissing all criticism with "it's optional!!"
Thats your view on it
Yeah because I actually make avatars a lot
And I like doing interesting stuff with them
there's 8k+ people in the game, hopefully you guys don't actually believe everyone has gotten a fair input
Not just port a model and slap cubed on it
Thats fine.
And people who are into that and want to see it will tweak their setting or custom whitelist you.
And those who dont, dont.
also, there's people who play the game that have no and want no interest in avatars or their creation and just want to socialize, they should be able to have everything turned off plain and simple
Sure, I don't care that there's options
I'm arguing against the defaults as I said three times already
But rokk- You know we cant read and respond to that argument!
Its all about the complain and whine people who add nothing- We gotta target those arguments! Not the ones that are thought out!
your argument is fine but became a bit biased when you tried arguing the system begs you to not alter your settings
Well it does
It's always a pro and con thing.
What should you go for? Default leaing it open and have people not know about it and have bad experiences.
Or have it enabled and your concerns?
Because it legit says that
There is no perfect solution
it makes it sound like you just want things your way because of your personal interests, not what's good for the general population and the general interest - which is socializing and talking
@earnest ermine the menu itself says it's not recommended to turn anything off beyond the defaults. The loading screen tips tell you that you should stick to the defaults. The wording of the entire system is "you can't be safe unless you use defaults"
and yeah, no solution will ever fully satisfy every person
Make the limits less harsh for lower users- Make it atleast more clear how you rank up beside 'play' as well... That isnt the case at all as shown with the 1K hours played and the same rank as 100 hours...
@earnest ermine if socializing and talking is truly the only thing the game is about, then we wouldn't have custom avatars to begin with.
stupid question to ask and it's probably self-explained but if you think someone you know is passed out in VR from drinking too much, is it a situation you can/should call a mod for or is it better to just wait for them to wake up?
And yeah, I do advocate for my own interest. It's called "advocating for your own interest"
I am speaking as an avatar maker
Just giving my perspective
those loading screens are targetted towards new users who have no real knowledge of the game obviously, people can and will learn to experiment and move past that
But you're ignoring my argument
I doubt you'll be able to wake them up ghost dragon
@wide prism Its not like a mod can do anything beside ban/kick them
Best is to wait untill he wakes up and tell him he is a dummy
ive passed out in game before doing the exact same thing
You said the system doesn't tell people to stick to the defaults. Now you backpedal and say "oh, everyone will ignore that anyway!"
@earnest ermine People still dont understand what causes lagg...
Its not the polygons
everyone knows the loading screens are very propaganda-esque lmao
everyone but new people at least
Yeah, thanks for proving my point
maybe you should complain about the screen and not the system
I am complaining about the screens, and I'm complaining about the system
Wtf are you on about
NANI?!
@umbral reef thanks, i'll just hope their alright, and someone did say they sounded like they threw headset before their avatar stood still
yeah they're probably in bed then @wide prism
when i did it I remember playing and then waking up the next morning
Elijah- Your being fairly dense and not even trying to understand what Rokk is saying...
He is not for removing the system
Or keeping it as we got right now
"The beta update is just another step towards limiting avatar creators in some way" is this about loading screens
C'mon, Elijah, show us some backbone.
And now your just nitpicking 
"The game will now limit your avatars by default" sounds like something that limits avatar creators to me.
Sigh What happened here anyway?
he's jumping ideas and things he wants to complain about pretty quickly, it's not really a focused or solid argument
@shy nest
thanks for helping, as i said, i'll just hope their fine and leave after waiting for a little bit
I'm assuming you've made a canny post about your concerns?
one thing also often forgotten is that this is the first itteraton.
future updates might include manually setable fallback shaders.
more whitelisted components and so on
@earnest ermine don't have to, someone already made one. And I upvoted it
@earnest ermine The canny for opinions, nice meme
Also the canny is ignored
In case you didn't notice
The devs generally don't take feedback seriously unless they already agree with it
you think discord is better?
@vocal shard You're absolutely right there
@wide prism your a good soul. They will probably be hung over tomorrow
I'm not here to change the minds of the devs
I was initially responding to your strawman argument
what are you here for?
I'm sure you'll be peddling it again tomorrow though
@vocal shard We know what causes lagg within VRC and its not hard to learn people how to optimize there shit
All it takes is 2 simple limits and tada!
'peddling' lmao, being happy with one update makes you a bad lad
@earnest ermine Im here because you claimed only bad people disliked the system
oh no my bad, disagreeing makes you a bad lad
Yeah, wtf?
We have multiple cannys with hundreds of upvotes that are being ignored in favor of inconsequential stuff
can you copy and paste me saying those exact words with context @umbral reef
@median basalt Just like with Rockstar
😄 thanks, i'll go now so i hope you all have a good day/night
or are you nitpicking
There will never be a perfect system without cracks, only a very manageable system with some cracks which usually get fixed... In the best scenario...
@earnest ermine you said there were only two reasons people disliked the system: because they didn't get the rank they wanted, or because they can't crash people anymore.
And that's obviously wrong
ElijahToday at 8:18 AM
the only complaints I've heard are from crashers or people who didn't get their expected rank, but the latter at least from my group immediately went to "I should try making maps and avatars then so I can rank up"
https://i.imgur.com/w3bWuEC.png
Im not part of both groups at all and my arguments dont align to both groups- Same goes for rokk
you were too slow
'i've heard'
@wide prism Have a good day. This is coming from Asia
Also, I doubt making avatars or worlds helps you rank up
My discord went to “this is a trusted user only discord”
I have 1 world and I'm trusted, someone else has 1 world and is veteran
It's just the vague trust system stretched out further
And dont just get the circle jerk shit
Xey- So when someone with 1K hours of playtime cant show off there animation to the biggest part of an userbase- That isnt limiting?
@queen mango
oh a similar timezone to mine, i'm Australian
"The game now blocks all avatars by default, but it's okay because you can turn it off!"
A limitation that is an DEFAULT that you COULD change
we've come full circle
There would be riots if block avatars was on by default
this is epic
Lmao if they wanted to prevent crashing you just turn everything on beside custom animations 👏
Not everything but that one
@wide prism Ahh. Good night then.
That moment when you tagged your self @queen mango
Oof
@queen mango thanks, you too 🤗
D:
(⅃_∠)
Anyway, my friends and I are into avatar dev a whole lot. It seems pretty clear that the majority of people into the more advanced avatar development stuff are against the current beta implementation. And it also seems a lot of people are a bit too quick to say "the update is fine" just because they never do anything more than port a model and slap Cubed's on it
What would a best case scenario for a "user" rank*?*
ill have you know i slap noes shader on 
@vocal shard you do now have to have uploadet any content
Or how the default limits work have to change or the way the system is explained and guided has to be made a 'tiny' bit more clear
As right now- Its as odd as it can be
Like look at the highest ranked users and what they do and what other users dont have
I have 2k hours in the game, 5 maps, and take avatar commissions with 10 months of practice under my belt if that makes my opinion any more 'important'
a lot of people spread wrong information
wether or not it could help / speed up things is a completely different thing tho.
But that is just as unknown as how exactly the other factors work.
Depends on where you look
I recently found a group of people that I now hang out with and they're all awesome.
great
I think it's just a thing of how people connect, e.g. someone I like and find super cool, may be really boring to somebody else
invite me pls
if you haven't found somebody you can talk to then you haven't searched enough
riggway
I mean I dunno if I can invite you there the owner is sleeping at the moment but feel free to add me @earnest ermine
i personally extinctafied you
Yes
alumercy
Awaken my masters
I see you typing
i wish i was extinct
This is a bird boys chat
you're sitting next to me in vrchat I can and will extinctafy you
thank you
I love meeting new lads I will add you my good egg
oh my god don't out me in chat
Its wild out here
this is so sad
Can we get
Alexa to play despacito
oyis
Wow this is epicgg
I'm tempted to change my activity status to, "If you have a crash gun please unfriend me."
Getting a bit fed up of meeting people that are cool to hang around with for the first two weeks, only to then upload an edgy rap gun and start brandishing it.
Has been the second time that someone I trusted has pulled this shit in a friends+ instance and made me look bad.
And by the point they reveal it, various other friends will also have added them, meaning it becomes unwanted drama if I want to separate from that person.
I really feel this
Why do they think crash guns are cool tho?
Lol, there would be little drama in our group over something like that
We would give them the option of either knocking it off or basically kicking him out of the group
Like it's pretty much obvious vrchat knowledge that crash anything = script kiddie/horrible person
It's not so much that others would have a differing opinion on it, it's just I don't want to be the guy going around telling people "Btw, I've unfriended _____ so you should too."
To be fair- If the dude dint instantly quit doing that dumb shit i would honstly just report him myself lmao
Its not your fault tbh, I can understand what you feel about this and it's true, having someone with a bad rep attached to you by others can affect your friendships badly
But sane people don't go and make friends and establish trust only to pull crash guns on them like a complete twat
I must be too trusting. I give people the benefit of a doubt, and then over the next few weeks they gradually shapeshift into one of these gangsta hat floating name tag tools.
"Ha prankd bro"
Nope, they're just a bunch of twats that take your time as an ok to do whatever they want
Friends as well as people who are interested in friendship know not to be overbearing over a friend or possible acquaintance, and to be considerate.
These people apparently are trying to take advantage of your trusting nature, or just lying up front
The worst part is that it's not like they're crashing me and laughing about it or anything. It's that they crashed someone as if defending me. (Was just enjoying some mock banter about my cyclops eye. It's common and has always been harmless.)
I don't want someone crashing anyone "on my behalf" and then acting like I'm expected to be cool with that.
Like I said before imo, nobody likes crashers no matter what
He also ironically happened to catch me in the crossfire.
I dont understand how could someone be ok with crashing as a form of "ethical hacking" when ethical hacking can contribute to society, and they're being flat out an embarrassment
Have stored the logs. Not yet been back in game to confront about it.
When you notice someone slowly morphing into a crasher
Ask them how they feel about it
Tell them how you really feel towards crashers and the lot
Yeah, I'll have to make a policy of slipping that in somewhere.
If they genuinely want your friendship they'd tone it down
Just make it known in advance how I feel about it.
I had a friend who used a crash gun on me, and on other people a few months before.
Thats not what you call a friend~
He's more of the acquaintance type

I genuinely blame it for stagnating the games player base this year.
Every time someone gets crashed, there's a chance they call it a night and don't bother to boot the game up again.
Every time someone gets crashed, it sours their experience, reducing their inclination to log in the next day, or the next week.
Every time someone gets crashed, they're more likely to begin solely hiding away in private instances, leaving public purely to the trolls and driving away new comers who don't have established friend groups to hang with.
Well its why the upcomming update is gonna be dope
But people still need to learn how to report users...
Yep. On both.
The new update can't come soon enough
I still feel that the default shader restrictions are one rank too high, and that limiting custom animations at the bottom end would be a more effective way to actually combat both crashing and spam.
But overall the update should considerably improve the new user experience.
People will last at least long enough to finish their first session without getting hit by a drive by.
The new update isnt jesus
It wont make people who spent all their time in private instances pop out of the woodwork
We still need a long time of implementation and tweaks to make public safe again
Probably a few months or a season
December's just 3 months away. They better make it right
I still go public. As much as I hate crashers, it's just because of the above reasons. Getting crashed personally just means I have another video and logs to send off.
...why december?
Christmas.
Christmas
Not to mention Halloween for Oct. and Thanksgiving for Nov.
Will be another spike of users getting new PCs or VR.
Children getting VR headsets and trying to get a good laugh out of us
2nd player boom inbound
Won't be anywhere near as big as the knuckles meme of course, but still a factor.
Please no, id rather have a gradual rise than another boom
People will just say the game is dead when its over
Most of the time user booms are bad for an game
^
Knuckles brought people in, but it also rendered public worlds troll breeding grounds
Memes is another thing.
At least the servers won't get murdered this time
The hype that comes with a boom also tends to result in people over doing things, and burning out on the game, which results in grumpy people complaining about it on discord. : P
two things
First, squeaker is a term that needs to die
Second, Isnt below 13 against the TOS?
Definitely
To which one?
The game is 13+ Same for this discord
>squeaker
Is this 2007-2009 of xbox360 online i just traveled back to?
Old term I used
Doesnt prevent people from yelling at anyone who sounds like a kid tho
Didn't know it was archaic at this time of year
its been a long time since i've ever heard or seen someone use the term "squeaker"
Yeah, times have changed.
Just be below 20 lol you'll get so sick of it
I met a 13 yearold in the game early on, that somehow had the voice of a 25 yearold. We were all calling bullshit at first, but his overall mannerisms/experience, and also his mum calling him to diner in the background, eventually convinced us he was legit.
I mean, yeah. You can find some odd encounters like that
It's kind of like how i'm in my 30's but sound 24-ish to most people.
And you have people calling 17 year olds children and telling them to fuck off
What a world amirite
Also met a few people where I've struggled to tell whether they're female, or just a 13 yearold guy. >_>
It's like we don't play the same game
Has happened both ways.
People gonna be rude no matter what in any scenario.
Either a man with a voice changer or a child
same?
Don't tell my friend Kitty that. She was getting so irate over someone accusing her of being a trap the other day. xD
Seems like you didn't meet some fine ladies there, Rin
Tbh i know trpas are a vrc meme
Had some people getting straight up offended when I refused to "confess"
but it does bother me too when called that
It bothers every girl
She's got a rather "anime" voice, (or at least tends to put one on), so gets it a lot.
We dont wanna be called men or children or manchildren because you want to spoil your fantasies
But ayy publics
Remember when a girl spoke up and suddenly she was swarmed by everyone in the room?
Happens too often
Jeez, I can see the .gifs coming back to me
remembers the amount of harassment or creeps you'd get in COD lobbies for speaking.
is about the same in publics in vrc most days
Yes but stuff like this is why people go to private rooms
People assume le holy update is going to send people crawling back to publics
Yeah. Have seen that. On one hand I get jealous of female voices, but on the other hand, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that trio of guys chasing around making slurping noises from last week.
Honestly though, many women that I seen in the pubs are quite the thots.
Or well... they still targeted me for a bit, but lost interest pretty quick.
No offence
Yeah.
Eh, people do what they want for attention.
Like "every guy in an anime avatar erps" or "knuckles is cool"
"Shaders are all screenshake"
Had a guy from this server friend me, we talk for a while and eventually he says he just wanted a vrc gf because all women in game are thots
Never hit the block button so fast
hi
Hello there.
Hello, Owen.
Hello
Allowed in some maps, like those with churches.
^
Otherwise, no
Simple stuff is allowed, but nothing heavy
i say depends on who you are with
My guess is as long as its not a forced discussion?
there are some rules in the tos
I dont know I hardly understand what a christian is
let's not discuss any further
Or what it being allowed means
https://vrchat.com/community
Check the section Inapppropriate Content
Political & Religious figures and symbology. Civil discourse is allowed in private spaces where all participants are aware of and accepting of the discussion.

So anyways, regarding your comment, @vocal shard he really contradicted himself there.
Wants a VRC GF, yet says that all women are thots. Que?
Just like real life
Yeah i really do get annoyed by generalizations.
words, i can't type nor spell today.
Yeah
I get annoyed by it myself too and I'm a guy as well. That stuff doesn't belong in this century
That's a part of what disgusted me about it
Like you go and insult all women, then say you never had any interest in me but your e-peen, and you expect me to say "oh sure come on right in"?
Why even bother being friendly then, just ask from the get go
well humanity is weird
Some people think VRChat is Tinder but reskinned
Sounds just as bad as the one time some guy called me a trap and a guy the whole time while in a public world then later asks me to be his vrc waifu. I'm like. no.
That isnt humanity
Id rather go and answer the people who ask me to "open bob" instead of having some guy tie me to his erotic fantasy
In a game NOT about relationships
There is a site for VRC dating use that
the game is about making friends and having fun
there are dating maps but they don't get used a lot of what i know
terrible terrible idea
Making friends and having fun =/= demanding anyone to be your fictional girlfriend out of the blue or after treating them horribly
Used the wrong /
there are 2 dating maps that i know of but one is more like getting to know someone on a one on one the other is a dating map but i forgot the names
Exactly, it's not different from what you would do in real life
i just like meeting people in vrchat but some people are realy not good people
I know I should stop saying that but its fun
Hehe ^_^
e-peen
Mein Gott. They never had any consideration for consent, do they?
But yea, block/mute and move on. Best thing to do
Well elire they all seem to assume that answering to a Hi or Hello is consent
Like people dont pick up conversation unless its for relationship or friendship
Yeesh. Friendship's fine, but an online relationship's a no-no in VRChat.
i just start talking to people and having fun some become friends some i don't even know who they are anymore
the only relationship's in vrchat are for role playing and that is normal
That's how friendship and relationship is built.
Also online relos in vrc work if for instance you and your loved one are apart for a while
Or enjoy the game together
yea
I know a married couple who run a vrchat server
Hmm... I guess I could make an exception for those.
One of them is trusted the other is a user rip
i know 2 people who live together and are married that play vrchat and one of them has a vrchat roleplay relation ship and his real relation ship
but roleplay everyone know that it's just for fun and just friendship
i know a few people who met on vrc back in like november and have met irl and are in a relationship. I find that kind of nice but 90% of the time online stuff usually never works out.
Drag people who ask for "vrchat waifus" usually take it to an unhealthy level
Roleplayers ask to roleplay and you go from there, or they are upfront and honest about it
those people who ask for waifus are just young or desparate to get someone who can get into a relation ship and hope it gets something real
Nothing wrong with roleplay, but actually thinking you can get to monopolise somebody's time to a scary extent because of "waifus" is not something id ever deal with
Desperate? Tinder exists
those people don't know how to act on a normal social level
Young? The online world is never a good place for someone completely unaware of social behaviour
They might not know to
But texting exists
Learning exists
Borderline harassment is not the way to go around it
You dont send someone 18 discord messages an hour after they said they arent interested
But I've made my point
those people are not normal at all
they are even weird for me while i'm not completly normal but i know how to act more normal to people i don't know
It shouldn't be "normal" to act in such a way just because this is a social game
And well
Even at my worst, I still abhor them.
You're doing a great job of communicating
The people using the word Waifu that way, aren't really even using it right, to be honest. Unless they're actually Japanese or something. : |
True, I don't speak Japanese well
private worlds are most of the time better than public worlds in vrchat but the problem is meeting people there
Well I tried making a fun world and meeting people in it
One of my friends has the touhou station world
It's more of a meme phrase, that had previously only really applied to fictional characters and was just for fun.
And he's made plenty of friends through meeting people in his map
friends plus used to be good but no one uses it anymore i have met most of the people i know in friends plus but now it's hard meeting new people so i need to go to public wich is a stupid meme place most of the time
Friends plus is painful
Using it like an equivalent of GF, outside of roleplay for dumb fun, is kinda weird.
Yesterday we were in the final fantasy world and one of our far friends had his buddy join
friends plus is just bad now when i started around 9 months ago friends plus was the way to go
In seconds there was an entire swarm of them and we had to leave
They were being plain obnoxious and annoying
I thought Friends+ was okay.
Friends plus works if your friends are considerate over who they friend
My experience with it was just like what you said.
Friends+ is still fine as long as the ones that join is able to behave socially.

with all the crashers and memers friends plus isn't the best
Friends+ is generally where I find the best stuff happens and you meet the best people, but even that can result in only seeing the same people most of the time.
i've never had much issues with friends+ luckily
It all boils down to
Do your friends accept randoms?
Do they know who they friend well?
many of them do but even they have standards
As friends or in the instance?
^
Friends in general
When you have standards for who you friend it means less annoyances popping up
i have met a lot of people hanging around streamers and those people are better friends then the streamers
Fuck streamers tbh
Yeah
I like to think I'm cautious with my friend list, but even then I was discussing that problem I had just up above.
I used to be friends with a friend who has a lot of friends whom I am friends with.
I wouldnt talk to one eveb if it meant not crawling over broken glass
tbh i'll add anyone who isn't annoying off of first impressions.
oof...
Most of the streamers ive watched or met are being annoying on purpose
I don't stream, but some of my best friends do.
How lucky are you Rin? 😛
Not at all
the streamers i know are good but some have gotten people who i don't like
Why ask?
as much as i'd like to quit my awful job and try to be a streamer, i'm really boring lol
Am I going to have to crawl over broken glass now
After reading the chat, you seem the be very lucky with your instances ^_^
Also being a streamer isnt about money- Its an verry unstable job most of the time
i have met some of the big vrchat streamers/ youtbers and some of them are nice people some are just bad
And it takes a long time to get an big enough fanbase (not just vieuwers) to get anything
yes and not to mention anyone willing to sponsor you is just as hard.
It boils down to me being shy and bringing up weird topics
and small streamers change when they get big
Some people dont like dinosaurs
THey change personalities drastically, like they had a big ego
Mhmm. Even the biggest ones that make very good money are faced with an incredibly unstable income and unpredictable future.
The streamer type id never forgive is the tit streamer
Anyone else can be ok if theyre nice
The one who lewds himself to others?
But not tit streamers they can burn
anti streamer gang rise up
Like "oops I let a boob slip out"
main reasons i haven't tried is due to not having any gimmick nor being at all interesting since i'm basically extremely introverted.
Let me guess, you got a dino avatar? But dinosaurs are cool. I just wish I get see them again (like Jurassic park) but without the dangers ^^
i had a streamer who was a good friend but he abandoned me and some of his older friends to get along with bigger streamers
I've met Matsix, Tails and Lil-Bagel so far.
i have met ryan jakuba shai kurigames and even more people
Short arms too
^
It just feels weird when people bring up jurassic world 3 or whatever the movie is called
I didnt watch it so I dont understand the reference
having met kurigames was one of the best things right now that happend in vrchat for me
Short armed avatar in VRC. That sounds challenging to live with. ^ ^;
That's why spinosaurus rock
as i met an entire community hanging around him of people who are friendly
Get it because theyre fossils now and have hardened into rocks
sounds just as bad as being 6'3 irl with a tall avatar lmao. You bend down to grab something but can't reach it xD
Oof
Desktop dinosaur?
Same. When I encountered Matsix and Rad (entirely by accident) it was a really good group.
fullbody is great
They won't see your real height 😛
Humanoid makes it look like a crescent project from hell
full body is fun, its just as fun when you get vertigo and nearly fall over and everyone laughs at you or gets worried.
You could always make a humanoid version of it
Oh god I just imagined it
We got cats, dragons and other animals already ^^
Your real hieght has nothing to do with your ability to reach the floor in game. It's all to do with the relative proportions of the avatars arms, head and legs.
Also
i have a moddel that fits me so good in full boddy just by accident
Change the IK it sucks
but it doesn't work for other people
Legit
maybe you have weird body proportions o.O
Im
The IK stuff you see now is supposedly fixed in the IK Beta
squish idk how that stuff really works but i've got some fairly long arms, my models would look deformed with my actual arm length lmao.
im screaming what is that
Lol
i'm pretty normal body proportions just works realy good the moddel for me
huh
but i need to have my real height 5cm smaller then my actual height
that thing is terrifying keep it away from me
The most common issue for not being able to reach the floor, is simply the avatars legs being too long.
but that is for every moddel i need to have it 5cm smaller
most anime avatars are like that
Exactly.
i have the issue sometimes even with proper leg lengths
Your favourite Rin 😛 : https://i.imgur.com/ZGW31Mz.png
my avatar is an aoba moddel of new game
Mine is pictured.
My man
You know Squid then Squishy?
Although that's actually a drawing of it a friend drew. But you'd be able to recognise me from it regardless.
Squid? That's my normal name outside of VRC. '-'
He's got a avatar just like yours. He's also the one that has the avatar with multiple arms he can control individually
Brb making fantastic sauropods
Individual controlled arms? I wonder how on earth that works.
I've seen extra arms paired up to move together, but never individually controlled.
my guess for individual is some form of overrides
individual arms isnt too hard
been wondering how to do that myself, i have one model with no legs but a snake lowever-half i had experimented to use with fbt and then she has about 9 arms
its likely rigid bodys and hand overrides
Assuming you need three gestures to move the arm up, naturally and down
You can only do 4 arms with gestures alone and they would move individually
A spider kind of movement
you could just have two sets of arms and use a single override to switch between the pairs
yeah
if you know how to rig another pair of arms to copy your other pair of arms then its not much of a leap to make it so you can switch between them
my experience with ridgid bodies is extremely limit still.
you can just mess around with them a bit and figure them out. adding particle systems to the arms is essentially the same as rigging multiple arms
The model i had been experimenting with
i realized it was easier to find a google image vs trying to go print screen mine again.
Yeah, if i ever find some good free time i'll be working on stuff again.
still got a ton of models that need optimizing
especially ones with more than just a diffuse, yet have like 42 materials
a lot of manual atlasing in my future
Oh my, It's 11:39 PM for me
Yea.. I should get off of Discord for today.
jesus bro u must really care about the rules
gotta get that mod role somehow
lol
why have rules in a server like this if nobody respect them ? ya both dumb or what ?
...
Huh, Rins back in the Vrchat Discord 🤔 I wonder what made her leave last time 🤔
doesn't need every user trying to enforce the rules though
¯_(ツ)_/¯
yikes
┬──┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ) There you go

☻/ This is bob. Copy and paste him so he can take over discord.
/▌
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No
What year is it? 
(Reaction to Bob)
11 years too late Natek
no
he took over youtube
but now
he will take over discord
☻__
/▌ /▌
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rekt
not late for a return of bob movie
dummy
!!!

Make a Bob avatar for VRchat 🤔
YES
thank you for sharing this wonderful idea good sir
ask for a private world invite anytime
Anyone want to play vrchat with me
I'm amazed the whole bob army thing still exists 😐
Alright, I posted here some time ago but now I need your help again for the same issue
I'm a Rift user and I hear literally zero sound from VRChat from my Rift's headphones. I tried every single setting you can imagine. I don't even know how I fixed it last time
Also, while I appreciate the developers' work on this game I feel like it needs quite a bit of optimization when it comes to using the Oculus Rift: there's a 50-50 chance it crashes for no reason at all when I'm "playing" with no audio
i never crashed randomly just by using the rift
I feel like there might be a problem with your Rift or whatever USB 3.0 controller you are using. Because I never experienced an issue with the Rift on VRChat.
the fact that you crash that much is more a problem on your side and not on vrchat side
For the Rift, the audio comes from the USB 3.0 I think. Could be a USB 3.0 bottleneck / problem maybe ? 🤔
faulty drivers too
If you can hear your oculus home in the rift but not VRChat then make sure your rift is your default audio output source
In windows
@mystic steeple
yes, make it your home
how can i get the code for the beta?
You don't need a code. Open the vrchat properties from the steam library
i know
And opt into beta
i know
Same place that you favorite worlds I think, snooze. You can only do it for published worlds though
And is not recommended by the mods here
how did people get it tho?
its the second time vrchat xrashes and takes the entire gpu driver whit itself
im having trouble uploading some thing where would be the best place to ask questions
I feel like Vrc won’t detect my voice properly
hey hey hey
Even I have everything boosted
hmm
hey folks
I'd assume that making friends adds more to your trust value
all of the friends I've made are new players-veteran
how many hours do you have
about 15 non-afk hours
A bit more and you shall get a User tag
a bit more play time and you will be able to upload most likely and get the rank of "user"
anyone who displays anything higher than user rank is going to be a tryhard
serval people are typing
serval
i was jumping around in public and it can be pretty fun to see how new players get amazed by some of the simplest things
by showing them some cool animations/particles or worlds etc...
yeah i love going to public and show some stuff to new people
you could show some really neat stuff when cameras worked for non-friend
I love going into Public worlds and Crahs because the game cant handlemore than 1 player at a time
can we just go back to the old das where Knuckels meme was a hting and the main problem that was out there was the Servers crashing due to the Influx of players
I miss the old days
same
When people didnt have Crashguns, and the biggest offense they did was going over the Polylimit
at least you can now disable particles, which kills all crashers
In the older days we also had crash guns- Just less easy to get
i never meet anyone whit a Crash gun during th eKnuckels era
people would constantly crash uganda
since people raided them and crashed all knuckles
Well back then we even had world shader problems for a while because panic mode was not an thing at all
Implying sane people whre going to Uganda in the firstplace
I can meet so many players to chat and have fun in the good old days
oh yea, VRChat is dead atm, people rarly talk to you, and keep to themselfs in their small group
making emoji's is difficult
its so hard to get any conversations going
right now everyone is just either busy streaming/rrecording in their private world
ik
no, the game is dead
and those viewer stream sniping
thats why you meet people here and meet up later in game
there is like nothing to do, the biggest meme it spawned died, and the crashes are a bit of a problem aswell
Oh and the State of the game in therms of Stability is also killing it
7/10 player in my friendlist r in privates and they never let me in when i requested..... I knew them before they starrted streaming
hack?
I dont have too many issues with lag
To be fair, the Pug needs some Optimizing
only fps problem for me
Best Map to talk to new people, to bad it only runs at 5 FPS
according to owlboy, the pug is perfectly optimized
i'm in public worlds every single day and always manage to find at least someone to talk to
I can test it right now if you want
Im running a nvidia geforce 940m
if I can run it
here's a bingo card i made many months ago, glad to see some things never change
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431104197958828032/442011072107511819/1.png
anybody can
pug is good until alot of people use laggy avatar
I have seen worlds with alot of things going on and even that ran better than the pug
I mean the friends i mmake in the good old days
the court room is pretty good on fps
didnt know artsy was 1of my friend lul
I mena even the Lagfree Boxes at tims arent even lagfree
Avatar - optimization
I'd love to optimize my custom avatar when I eventually can upload it
the ability to disable dynamic bones locally would help a lot
Unlikely to happen
btw the game got big af when the knuckles meme came out and streamerr starrting to stream it
yes, but that was the best days
because people where open, talked, memed
Sure the servers died due to the Huge Influx of players
But if im honest, it was the time where i meet new friends and had alot of fun
I think its kinda dead rn is becuz streamer got bored of it (most of the streamer/youtuber)
I've noticed that around anime avatar's that my fps dies
high material count from mmd models
Damit n8 being faster then me
gottem
I wish there would be more worlds like the Artist3d worlds
they are amazing
So fun to explore, so abstract, and some interactive objects aswell
artist3d?
Yes
whats that?
A group of worlds
Art Projects from a guy who also made music
he put his art into VRChat as worlds to explore
they have huge Filesize, but are really well Optimized and fun to explore
just because 7 people pla yit doesnt mean the game it allive
if all of those 7k people play in private worlds
cant rly say its dead but compare to last time when it got big it jjust died down
its pretty dead in a game that requires Interactions betwen players
yea
I feel like if you don't have an anime avatar no one will talk to you
its not about people not playing it, its about what it is right now
I mean
I would love to get into Public worlds again and see like alot of people meme, some talk normaly and you being able to just jump in and talk whit em
barely any worlds are in the 200 players mark
tbh I think its my fault for not having a group of friends to talk to since im abit bad at socializing
i remember where we talked for hours on end and went into so many different directs during the conversation
some people came, some left, but overall it was a fun and wholesome experience
and then you had the Memers who where either Funny, or just minging, buut it gave VRChat some charm
Make VRCHAT Great Again kappa
new meme
tbh 50% of the sudden boost in playerr r fromm stream snipers in my opinion lul
but yea i recommend everyone to visit Artists3D#s worlds if they are still up
And you honest think those users are no where anymore
barly any of them are around
as i said before, moste people grather in their own little groups and just blcok or Mute you if you try to talk whit em
I got no idea what you are talking about... It might be that you are not finding or searching for them anymore
But the few times i manage to play i always do it in random worlds- Find plenty of fun peeps to talk to and get shown dope memes back after showing my jokes
Lies
All i see is Russians and japanes epeople in Pub worlds these days
Oh and the said groups that only talk whit themselfs
jjapanese people r fun to hangout with if only i can speak japanese
I didnt really interact whit the Jap. people, hard to comunicate whit them whitout VR
Not many gestures you can do
Mute's whitout VR is like, WHy the fuck you playing this?
I can understand it whit VR, it works
ikr
but Desktopmode Mutes, what
@umbral reef obviously a troll, just block and move on
just went into a mha one's justice avatar select and some guy was all might and made a speech on the fact that we should just suck his ding dong
lol
When do I know I can make custom content?
you should get an ingame notification, if i remember right
Only get email but take up to 40 hour or more get access need to be actvie with friends
Correction
24-40 hours
either that
thats a estimate on how much time it takes to gain enough trust
Just don't overthink it, don't be impatient and stand around tapping your foot waiting for it to happen. Go into public worlds and make some friends, you'll get it in no time.
I've made 3 friends so far
Then you're on the right track.
when does the avatar menu break? more than 100 avatars?
Around 100, with paging implimented at 50
Nobody does
still_a_visitor.png
I got the legend tag recently
I've gottten the visitor tag recently
For anyone who has Windows Mixed Reality, do you know if a Display Port to HDMI 1.3 adapter will work with it?
I just got allowed to upload custom avatars, now where do I go in the SDK menu in unity?
Nvm, found it
how many hour's did you spend?
@vocal shard I'd recommend looking for a display port to hdmi 2.0 adapter. That adapter will lock you into 60hz mode
As long as it will work
I can buy a better one later then
I just saw DP to HDMI 1.4 as the lowest supported version on the WMR site, & was worried HDMI 1.3 wouldn't work with it
I actually don't know if 1.3 will work... I know 1.4 will, but that is still the low Hz mode
I run mine directly off my HDMI, and use display port for the monitor
I have a DP cable for my monitor, but its too short
HDMI is the only cable supported for WMR? It doesn't have a DP cable option as well? @vocal shard
With an adapter, display port works. But the cable is a hmdi, and it is hardwired into the headset
Hello
Hi
hi
Hello there
Hoi
Oh hi Mark
We met at that mountain top cafe map.
You were that Lamia, correct?
Whilst I was there yeah.
I’m confused Becouse what happend yesterday
Am good. Bit short on sleep. Otherwise fine.
Define short lol.
-_-
ikr
I only get to sleep 2 hours
Jeez o.o
It’s 1 AM rn for me
4:41pm for me
Came home from work physically exhausted the other day, but decided to say screw it, and went on VRC for 8 more hours regardless. Then simply couldn't sleep after getting out. Dunno why.
OMG SO LUCKY
So now I'm all messed up, with just a 4 hour nap over the evening, and need to get a bit more in before my next shift. Kinda annoying.
I need to stay awake
I can’t even move my legs Becouse they are asleep
Idk why I’m still on meh computer
You need to fix that sleep schedule of yours, Squishy. As for you CJ you need to rethink yours xD
I can’t
what about mine
Had to wake up to cook and eat.



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