vrchat-general-2

[sterile drift]

Don't break your cord please

[vocal shard]

i won't lmao

i'm quite active with movements tho

[sterile drift]

Welp I'm gonna go play VRC now that I'm back home

[ruby burrow]

Wouldn't the cord just pop out of the port rather than breaking?

[iron seal]

i can see the prod getting bent

[sage pewter]

Any chance Occulus will go on sale during black friday?

[vast tulip]

@sage pewter almost guaranteed since it goes on sale randomly all year

[sage pewter]

Man I've missed every single sale this year then

[vast tulip]

Check best buy if that's a thing near you

[lean oracle]

hello anyone else seen the list in the old hub? i'm supposed to be on the list

[umbral reef]

what old hub

as there have been a few by now

[lean oracle]

like the og hub

[mortal storm]

I needed to buy a Rift for work.. went down to Best Buy and asked how they could help me get the price down. They did a search and found MS had a $50 off thingy and they matched it right there. I thought that was really nice.

[warped urchin]

Oculus is gonna be like what 250$ on black Friday

[mortal storm]

that would be amazing

[lean oracle]

they have a list of people that played on december 2017 and i have a pic where it is exactly 2017 december

that i took with custom avatar

[vast tulip]

That isn't an official world btw

[lean oracle]

hol up gotta check then

it is official

lul my bad

[vast tulip]

the hub map with the list of names isnt an official map o:

[quiet prawn]

never even heard of that map

[hybrid cloak]

for the halloween competition, what are the limitations put in place. Like if i have an original idea but it is using characters that already exist then is that allowed

[lilac swan]

I think it's fairly obvious to say you need to have the rights to the assets you are using in the competition. Unsure about fan works though, might have to wait for the official details for that

[kind wedge]

Halloween competition hasnt had any details announced yet I think

Other than "Its a thing"

[vocal shard]

halloween competition?

Read announcements

[viral knoll]

When will the new update come out?

I saw pictures of the new UI and I thought it looks really cool.

[vocal shard]

nobody knows sadly :/

[golden bluff]

They said a week

Wish there was a open beta though

[vocal shard]

I hope so

[kind wedge]

@viral knoll Word from the devs say "A week" for the new update, but it will go into open beta sooner most likely

This is entirely speculation from my part, but Im betting on open beta this weekend.

Im itching to get my hands on it

[viral knoll]

Same here. Looks really cool. Love the idea.

[ruby burrow]

Something I'd not considered just til now. I assume friends bypass these settings.

[shy nest]

would make sense i feel

[plush nymph]

how does one join an event

[ruby burrow]

I've been wondering that myself actually. Feel like it's about time I should consider venturing into one of these things.

[humble totem]

@ruby burrow Friends are always displayed unless you explicitly block their avatars.

They're exempt from the safety system

[ruby burrow]

Makes sense and assumed as much.

[sterile drift]

I'm sure when you say "You need to have the rights to the assets you're using"

I sure can't use whatever I have

All ripped Nintendo assets lul

[hybrid cloak]

no like i get models from deviantart which are from a game

themselves

is that allowed

like for example

i make my own version of fnaf

my own map

add all the animatronics in

animate them

by hand

[gleaming kraken]

is my friend being ignorant or does the tri count of a model not really matter (speaking of course that the limit didnt exist)

[sterile drift]

Polygon count doesn't count as much toward performance as mesh count and material count, along with the shaders you're using on those materials. That's what really brings it down. Polygons still do matter though, but only in massive excess.

@gleaming kraken

Still, be mindful

[gleaming kraken]

just to be sure it is wrong to modify the sdk to allow like... 60 k? or maybe 34k? i might have a friend to report... as long as he doesnt cross me...

[vocal shard]

60k isn't a lot

[rough flax]

People are fine till over 100k. At that point, remove stuff or decimate. Or over 2 meshes unless the animation you're doing needs multiple meshes to be done.

[ruby burrow]

Avatars reaching up to 65k are incredibly common in the game right now. A large portion of any room you enter will contain them.

[safe prism]

AAA games at 40k? omegalul

10x that

[ruby burrow]

The key thing, is that poly count has an incredibly small impact compared to the other mentioned performance costs, up until you hit the point where Unity starts splitting meshes because of it.

[rough flax]

Removing the 65k mesh limit will increase performance by tons. Don't have to split into a million meshes.

[safe prism]

that's just the FBX importer being dumb

[ruby burrow]

Unity splits meshes when poly count on any one object hits somewhere around 65'500. Which is why many users set their own limit at 65k.

[safe prism]

you could merge the meshes again in unity

[median basalt]

Pretty sure that's just a limit in Unity 5 and earlier

Vertices and tris count has to be lower than 65535

[safe prism]

just for FBX

[ruby burrow]

Also at Okano, AAA games don't always use massive poly counts. Many of them are exceptionally well optimised.

[median basalt]

That's not just for FBX though

That is a general limit on meshes

[safe prism]

that's not at all true

[median basalt]

Otherwise we would be able to import dae and bypass it entirely

[safe prism]

importers have the limitation

[ruby burrow]

For example... these. https://i.neoseeker.com/ca/assassins_creed_2_conceptart_sIlze.jpg
http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/brohood.jpg

[safe prism]

not unity itself

[ruby burrow]

Assassins Creed official models, all 6k.

[safe prism]

also AAA takes exceptional care that if they wanted to, they'd have no issue.

also brotherhood is an 8 year old game?

pre-current gen consoles that could handle it

[median basalt]

Just checked and it seems like the issue with 65k polys is actually in the importers, so you're right

[ruby burrow]

The big difference between AAA stuff and typical VRC avatars, is the quality of the texture work, and how every mesh for a AAA game is very carefully hand crafted to work with those textures.

[median basalt]

But it's not specific to FBX or anything

[safe prism]

the GPU particles have massive 100k (or however many they want) tri single meshes

all just generated in unity

you could just merge the two meshes in unity the exact same way aha

[silver socket]

does any one else have the problem of being able to access the first avatar uploaded it wont let me swipe over to my first one

[indigo fern]

yea, it happens to me too

[safe prism]

same

[silver socket]

ok so im not going insane

[humble totem]

@median basalt Unity is using 16-bit index buffers, which means no vertex (as rendered, which is sometimes different from Blender's vertex count) can have an index >65,534 (one less than the maximum 16-bit integer).

A newer version of Unity adds support for 32-bit index buffers which allows you to theoretically have billions of vertices.

As okano mentioned you can have meshes with >65,534 triangles but in general you'll run out of vertices before you get there because modeling software won't let you have multiple faces using the same set of vertices.

[tacit plank]

So in short, (the current version of) Unity sucks

[idle elm]

How bout that new update?

[silver socket]

ok question would any one know why i cant use my hand gestures on a custom avatar

[vast tulip]

@idle elm its great (:

[ruby burrow]

@silver socket How do you mean exactly? The hand gestures just aren't working at all? Does it have any other custom expressions or features attached to the gestures?

[silver socket]

im not sure but i seemed to have fixed it, thanks for your help tho

[ruby burrow]

Ah, fair enough. Have fun then. :3

[vocal shard]

The avatar I uploaded won't appear, any one might know what might be the problem?

[tacit plank]

The newest avatar seems to be invisible if you have more than 100 or so uploaded

If it's your first upload, you're likely using the wrong unity version

If neither, I guess you should try to renew the ID and reupload

[vocal shard]

Unity 5.6.3p1  version crashes Everytime I try to upload.

I tried to downgrade the latest version to 5.6.3p1

But it still crashes though.

Should I download the earlier version?

Idk it might work on earlier version?

[tacit plank]

I think it's unlikely, but I guess you could try

No crashlogs or anything though?

[vocal shard]

I think there was something. I'll show it once I got on my PC.

I'll just give an update if there was anything else.

Thank you!

:D

[tacit plank]

Alright, I hope you get it working!

[golden bluff]

Found away to check rank go to the vrchat website on chrome go to your profile then inspect element then go to "netowrk" then click on "usr_" or "user" then expand tags

It should show up like this
tags: ["system_avatar_access", "system_world_access", "system_trust_basic", "system_trust_intermediate",…]
0: "system_avatar_access"
1: "system_world_access"
2: "system_trust_basic"
3: "system_trust_intermediate"
4: "system_trust_known"
5: "system_trust_trusted"
6: "system_feedback_access"

In theory it should show one above actual rank

So I'm known apparently

With like 800 hours, full body, 200+ friends, and like 50 uploaded avatars

Feels bad man

[shy nest]

im known aswell

only 306 hours

makes sense

[indigo fern]

I'm also known, 411 hours

Under 40 blocks though :0

[golden bluff]

750 hours for me

[indigo fern]

I know some guys with hundreds of blocks and they're still veterans

[golden bluff]

feel bad

[indigo fern]

Trust score is scuffed

[golden bluff]

Yeah it's not final don't even know if this is correct

[indigo fern]

Mhm, we'll only know for certain when the update actually rolls out

[silver socket]

tags: ["system_avatar_access", "system_world_access", "system_trust_basic", "system_trust_intermediate",…]
0: "system_avatar_access"
1: "system_world_access"
2: "system_trust_basic"
3: "system_trust_intermediate"
4: "system_feedback_access"
5: "system_trust_known"
6: "system_trust_trusted"
7: "system_trust_veteran"

🤔 this was my old account

[indigo fern]

🤔

Time?

[silver socket]

🤔

wheres that

ive got about 120 friends

[shy nest]

steam probably

[silver socket]

well before i made my new account about 212 hours

[indigo fern]

🤔

[umbral oracle]

I just want to be able to share creations I make with custom shaders with everyone else and see the same. Most shaders are harmless, let people create and see things beyond your imagination. I hope they make it easy to allow shaders.

[indigo fern]

The system can be turned off, and there's also a custom setting

Not sure if it's on by default or not though, since the particle limiter isn't

[umbral oracle]

I'm really sad but I will probably just include a quad with how my avatar will look with shaders enabled and hope to encourage people to try allowing shaders from untrusted newbies like me

[silver socket]

well with the system its setup for those who have been playing for a while dont get there stuff turned off but those who just started have theres off

thats what i got from a clip

[indigo fern]

No, I meant, you can turn the whole safety off entirely, I was wondering if it's off by default

[umbral oracle]

Ya particle limiter is the same issue. For every crasher there are tons of wonderful creations with particles. The issue for me is custom shaders and creations is what got me into vrchat, being able to upload within 1-2 weeks of playtime was awesome. Sure maybe I will eventually get my 1000 hours in vrc (I don't idle in desktop mode) but if it is enabled by default, we close the door behind us and don't let new people make creations of their own

[indigo fern]

I'm probably not gonna use it since I don't really mind

[silver socket]

I think it'll be off by default but it'll give you a notification if you want it on or not

[umbral oracle]

I like the fact that the tool is there yes. Better than all or nothing block. I'm scared that people will be encouraged to turn it on and assume anyone who uses shaders means a crasher

[silver socket]

Hmm I get where your getting at

[indigo fern]

Yeah, that thought will be in the back of our heads from now on too

[umbral oracle]

It might kill crashers though because if people have it off by default, crashing will be no fun. So maybe I will be able to convince everyone around me to check out my avatar with shaders on

[tacit plank]

I got legend months ago

More ranks when?

[indigo fern]

I'm not using any safety, pfft
What am I, some kind of whimp

[shy nest]

ill only really restrict users that cant upload yet and ones that are just able to upload

the rest I could generally trust

i dont want to block everything just some things

and if someone with a higher trust rank is a bit of an idiot i can just block them

[tacit plank]

The new system will be good though, you will be able to see who're experienced users (very unlikely to crash you) and who is new (might not be used to people touching them, and might need someone to teach them the basics)

[umbral oracle]

I'm only known and intermediate after months of vr gameplay with 50 or so friends. So this is going to divide users into castes

[indigo fern]

Ehh, the trust score is broken, there are people who have been blocked hundreds of times who are still veterans

[umbral oracle]

Because my hours are low maybe. I only leave it on overnight when I actually sleep in vr.

[vocal shard]

Looking for someone as cute as me to play with dm

[tacit plank]

So in short, be kind and remind new users that they can remove the stupid "personal space" thing.
And yeah, the trust score seems to follow a weird system, I think I have less than 200 friends still, lots of hours played though, and I don't think I've been blocked a lot

I only recall somebody talking to an invisible person (guy who blocked me) twice before

[thick flare]

how do i see the number of blocks i have?

i suspect i have hundreds

[indigo fern]

its this site, it uses the api
http://piper.moe/blockalyzer.html

[thick flare]

thanks alot

[indigo fern]

it doesnt give you an actual number so just copy all the names and paste them in notepad and check how many lines there are

[thick flare]

27

[lilac swan]

Apparently 13 people have blocked me

[thick flare]

hmm

[candid hare]

Is there a way to see when my account was created?

[vocal shard]

Is the rank thing just in the beta?

[thick flare]

closed beta

[vocal shard]

Awww man

I have like 700 hours aha

I wonder what my rank would be

[candid hare]

I only have 183 hours but I've played for a long time :c I love the game but i cant play as much

[thick flare]

mine is trusted intermediate

[candid hare]

hwo can you check?

[thick flare]

gotta work my way up

[candid hare]

I dont think you can go up

[tacit plank]

183 hours is not much

[thick flare]

from elady

[candid hare]

I know,.. Im an adult with 2 jobs, 65 hours a week....

[thick flare]

Found away to check rank go to the vrchat website on chrome go to your profile then inspect element then go to "netowrk" then click on "usr_" or "user" then expand tags
It should show up like this
tags: ["system_avatar_access", "system_world_access", "system_trust_basic", "system_trust_intermediate",…]
0: "system_avatar_access"
1: "system_world_access"
2: "system_trust_basic"
3: "system_trust_intermediate"
4: "system_trust_known"
5: "system_trust_trusted"
6: "system_feedback_access"
In theory it should show one above actual rank
So I'm known apparently
With like 800 hours, full body, 200+ friends, and like 50 uploaded avatars
Feels bad man

[vocal shard]

Well I’m probably same as you then aha

[indigo fern]

And under 30 blocks*

[vocal shard]

What about room kicks?

Does it take that into consideration

[indigo fern]

🤔 maybe? not sure where we can check how many times we've been kicked though

[thick flare]

what do you mean by under 30 blocks?

[indigo fern]

Didn't you say only 27 people blocked you?

[thick flare]

oh

i thought you meant you need to have under 30 blocks to get to certain trust rank

[indigo fern]

Some of my friends use those colorful shaders, so they have hundreds

[errant pike]

ay so in the new old hub map

are the devs just going from oldest to newest

[vocal shard]

Sometimes I like to shoot fireworks in the sky on gia nights so that might lead to a block 😇

[errant pike]

cause I ain't on the wall for some reason

[vocal shard]

What wall

[kind wedge]

@errant pike The new old hub is not an official map

Its created by a user

[tardy ridge]

Hey anyone else get stuck at the star loading thingy when you first boot the game up

[errant pike]

oh

[vocal shard]

Not for a long time minnu

[errant pike]

how did they get the player list then?

[vocal shard]

I think you gotta clear your cache of that happens

[errant pike]

cause I'd like to be there :<

[kind wedge]

@errant pike screenshots dated before 2018

Im assuming

[tardy ridge]

Aaahhhhh okay

[candid hare]

well shit...

[vocal shard]

Most likely before the big boom back on September last year

[humble totem]

It's a list of people they know were in VRChat before fall last year when the population exploded.

[vocal shard]

Good times

[candid hare]

I just got a new PC adn cant check that

[errant pike]

I've still taken screenshots before 2018

....

this don't make sense

[humble totem]

They manually compiled it from their own screenshots

So it's not a complete list

[vocal shard]

You could probably just ask the owner

[errant pike]

aight

[vocal shard]

hey hey guys

[errant pike]

are they in this discord?

I'll try and pm them

[vocal shard]

Go to the world and it will say who the owner is on the screen

[errant pike]

rip I just turned off vrchat

brb in that case

[candid hare]

shit, oldest Screen shot I have is Jan 3 after I got Full Body

[vocal shard]

darn fam thats 8 months

[candid hare]

Trackers were ordered just after Xmas, so I as probably playing around teh start of Dec

[vocal shard]

darn leave some room for me i only got 1773 hours on steamvr and like 203 on vrchat

[tardy ridge]

Okay so cleared cache

[candid hare]

I have low play tiem due to tiem constrants :c

[tardy ridge]

And the game still isn't loading up for me

It gives me the loading thingy then it disappears and I'm stuck in star place (wow I know I'm great at describing)

[vocal shard]

i'm sick

[candid hare]

@tardy ridge VR or desktop?

[tardy ridge]

Vr

[vocal shard]

🤔

[tardy ridge]

Now it's showing that I'm logging in

[vocal shard]

i haven't had that issue??

[candid hare]

make sure your PC isn't askign for any special permissions on your desktop

[tardy ridge]

But it's stuck

Okay it's starting to load in- I'm good thanks for helping

[vocal shard]

ok so i have a fever im finna die

That user to happen when servers where overloading

The stuck in space thing

I was always scared I got banned or something

everytime i got kicked from a world i was finna oof

[shy nest]

yo nice

[exotic minnow]

-rep

[shy nest]

i might jump on open beta and give it a shot

[covert chasm]

ay read my blog

[shy nest]

cheers team

[grand zealot]

an update I approve of

👍

[tidal aspen]

nuisance rank neat

[shy nest]

"Additionally, there exists a special rank called “Nuisance”. "

[grand zealot]

L U L

Apparently I'm a veteran according to some random person

also this different UI tho

[twin canyon]

So wait us old users get veteran status 0.0

[thorn garden]

Nope

[twin canyon]

Just saw the post

[grand zealot]

no

[twin canyon]

Then what does it mean by veteran

[thorn garden]

I got trusted if I remember right

[indigo fern]

trust score yea

[twin canyon]

Ouch

We’ve been here before the explosion of popularity

[covert chasm]

Read the blog and you'll find out what the ranks mean and are used for 😃

[indigo fern]

🙏 🙏

[sly veldt]

👽

[tacit plank]

Legend is not a rank, right? It doesn't have "trust" in its name

[indigo fern]

🙏 👽 🙏

[shy nest]

heh nuisance muted by default 👌

[winged igloo]

[vocal shard]

so will the new update also show the legendary status

i wanna be one of the kool kids

[shy nest]

I am sorta curious about that, would there be anyone currently that would have nuisance or will it only count stuff after its released on the public build?

[gaunt dagger]

Question; will old users also have to earn the new ranks like say, "Trusted User" and so forth?

[tacit plank]

Legend has more meanings than legendary

"system_legend","system_trust_known","system_trust_trusted","system_trust_veteran"
It also doesn't have "trust_" in it

[vocal shard]

huh

Soo

[tacit plank]

Probably nothing to do with trust

[vocal shard]

To get to a known user

[covert chasm]

100% of the ranks available were detailed in the blog post.

[vocal shard]

You have to play a fuck ton right?

[shy nest]

noice

[sly veldt]

@tacit plank you are confusing API info. Just go read blog. It has the correct info

[vocal shard]

you gotta play a ton make friends hang out in friends+ a lot prob

i swear to god ron i saw you helping someone play vrchat while i was drawing

How do i tell what rank i am?

its some sort of statistics sytem nobody but the devs know

theres an api trick

[tacit plank]

Yeah last rank is veteran

[vocal shard]

on the website

[sly veldt]

@vocal shard go get the open beta. Open your quick menu

[twin canyon]

So I could have been a member for years and now since I only played 15-16K hours I only get trusted or whatever I’m not to sure on how this system 100% works I skimmed

[vocal shard]

Got it

[indigo fern]

:0 nice way to get people testing the open beta too, sneaky sneaky

[sly veldt]

@twin canyon nobody will be left out. Also this isn't released yet so tuning and background things still going on.

[tacit plank]

I want to collect API tags though 😦 how do I get admin_avatar_access? Discontinued?

[twin canyon]

:3 ok @sly veldt thanks my dude

I’ll try the open beta if I can remember the code

I have the closed code

[gaunt dagger]

I assume not everyone will start off as a "new user" or "user" if they've been around for a while then and so forth with good behavior?

[limpid token]

oof I've played vrchat 250 hours in the past two weeks alone

[tacit plank]

It just pulls the trust ranks from the API I believe

[shy nest]

i am a user 😂 looks like im gettin blocked instantly

[umbral oracle]

I'm definitely checking the open beta out. Even If I do have trust level, I'm worried about the next generation of vrchatters who will step into this beautiful new world full of creation and be unable to upload anything with nice shaders or effects for weeks.

[vital bramble]

THANK YOU VRCHAT YOU GUY'S FINALLY DID WHAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN ASKING FOR YOU'RE ACTUALLY GREAT

[shy nest]

dont think its got anything to do with api bois

[tacit plank]

That's almost 18 hours a day neranar, being AFK is cheating 😛

[indigo fern]

im gonna be judged by the color of my nametag ;-;

[sly veldt]

@umbral oracle read the blog

[limpid token]

I have no life

[sly veldt]

Then worry less

[indigo fern]

Ron renamed :0

[limpid token]

I work and come home and play vrchat all day lol

[meager karma]

Voicing my disapproval for visible ranks along with a few friends. The security update looks good but making it visible is a horrible idea

[vocal shard]

color of nametag what

[vital bramble]

dude public is going to be so much better thanks you

[covert chasm]

@umbral oracle They can upload anything they like once they've reached New User. All of their friends will see 100% of their avatar components and flashy stuff and etc.

[indigo fern]

LostViking btfo, Ron rises

[thick flare]

yeah, "git good you green nameplates"

[sly veldt]

@meager karma you can choose to hide your rank if higher

[umbral oracle]

That's true. Looking forward to the new system.

[vocal shard]

lol

[vital bramble]

tupper and ron seriously thank you guys i'm so sick of being crashed

[pseudo bobcat]

What constitutes a veteran? I've been here since the ~10-20 max users online times and am not one

[sly veldt]

If ranks were hidden it would be weird to not see some things on some users and not on others

[vocal shard]

instead of talking down to deskies we'll be bullying greenies

[winged igloo]

Hyped to see a lot more people going into public worlds now

[vocal shard]

what

[lunar magnet]

Visible ranks will make meeting randoms a bit less magical though

[tacit plank]

Make cool avatars that has your username in sparkling letters above it or something

[meager karma]

Hiding your rank will be looked down upon too. Just make it completely hidden

[vital bramble]

eret gets it

[sly veldt]

@pseudo bobcat nobody will be left out. It's not complete yet. Out soon but this is still in testing phase

[tawdry hinge]

There's a good question. Ron, why is the unfriend button so goddamn huge? Lol

[vocal shard]

fugging greenies LOL

[indigo fern]

Greenie weenies

[winged igloo]

The Friend button is also huge

[tawdry hinge]

I feel like that's begging for accidents

[meager karma]

It doesn't help anyone being visible

[strange sable]

I don't think a lot of people will come out of private worlds. but interesting blog. interested to see how it pans out.

[sly veldt]

@tawdry hinge it has a confirm

[covert chasm]

@tawdry hinge that's fine, because there's a confirmation to unfriend now 😃

[limpid token]

oi don't touch my weenie >_>

[tawdry hinge]

Oh awesome

[winged igloo]

Poggers

[vale fog]

several people are typing...

[sly veldt]

hah

[vocal shard]

i keep trying to make my friends go public but they're all paranoid

[slate rock]

What's the starting rank for eveyone?

[vocal shard]

sucks

[vital bramble]

the rank system is a great idea all it will do is deter people from crashing others

[covert chasm]

you owe me a coke ron 😛

[indigo fern]

confirm for unfriend?!?! 💦 💦 💦

[winged igloo]

Several people are typing...

[tacit plank]

Does block on friends have a validaion too?

[slate rock]

@vocal shard If we don't interact with people very often, can we still rank up? I like to play alone and just explore by myself

[sturdy zealot]

Miss me with that trust system

[vale fog]

How easy be to get veteran. am new

[vocal shard]

crasher kiddies get fucked

devs do coke confirmed

[tawdry hinge]

So for existing users will we start near the bottom?

[slate rock]

I also have 2.8k hours on vrchat, I'd hope to start out as a veteran lol

[vital bramble]

this is genius because its going to deter people from freinding hackers aswell so hackers are just gonan get bored of it in the first 2 minutes

[vale fog]

nah they do pepsi

[vocal shard]

pepsi lines

[winged igloo]

All your time ans stuff that you have already done is taken into account

[vale fog]

we should all bully the crashers. ask them what the 3rd page of google is like

[vocal shard]

ive played vrchat since like feburary and have 203 hours????

[grand zealot]

gimmie the update now

[vital bramble]

^

[umbral oracle]

Question about avatar worlds: if a legendary user makes a beautiful avatar with particles and custom shader, can a new user show off the effects to everyone?

[vocal shard]

alexa you prob are

[sly veldt]

also.. you can FAVORITE AVATARS

Just three for now..

[indigo fern]

:0

[vocal shard]

what heeck

[sly veldt]

but hey.. it's a start

[limpid token]

OSHIT

[vocal shard]

what heck

[indigo fern]

oh
3, more than before

[limpid token]

marry me

[vital bramble]

i like that ron hel lyeah

[winged igloo]

FAVOURITE AVATARS YEEEEEEEEEEEE

[vocal shard]

lyuma the problem imo is you can publish an avatar world and they'll test the avatars so they dont have troll effects

[tacit plank]

Nice!

[indigo fern]

hype

[vocal shard]

but you can switch out the avatars in your world after it's published

[indigo fern]

now i can put my mains on top

[vocal shard]

by uploading a diff avatar onto the ID

or adding shit

Favorite avatars?

[tacit plank]

Why just 3? I don't believe that it's due to storage space limitations

[vocal shard]

wtf is favoriting avatars

Yes.

[vale fog]

Can we get a chart that shows the difference to acquire ranks? I feel that my 1k hours should be more than a known user

[vocal shard]

theey even kinda encourage you to do that

[grand zealot]

the fuck is legendary user

[vocal shard]

and make plaeholder avatar pedastools

[vital bramble]

honestly devs i'm so happy you guys did this i have no words for how great this is

[winged igloo]

There is no such thing as a Legendary User

[covert chasm]

@umbral oracle Sure, if your settings are set to let that person show off, if they're your friend, or if you unhide them manually. Tons of options.

[sly veldt]

@winged igloo correct. read blog. veteran is highest. right now..

[vocal shard]

How do i check my rank rn without playing vrc?

apparantly legendary user is a misreading of that api trick to get your rank

[tacit plank]

If legendary was a rank, I think people like would have it

[indigo fern]

honestly im probably gonna leave the safety off, all the other stuff sounds dope though

[winged igloo]

Yeah, just telling someone else 😉

[cerulean dust]

To the VRChat Dev team, this is a huge step forward in the right direction. I applaud your effort.

Can't wait to go meet people in public again.

[vocal shard]

mayflower i just dm'd you how lel

[tacit plank]

Iris broke the friend list by having 1000s if I remember correctly?

[vocal shard]

Sh

[sly veldt]

@winged igloo yeah I know

[vital bramble]

@cerulean dust ikr

[tacit plank]

And yeah, great work devs!

[grand zealot]

Great update guys

I'm diggin it

[sly veldt]

Menu perf is fixed

[calm jay]

I may be the only one who thinks this, but this is scary orwellian. I could see this becoming a problem later on. I mean I get the reasons why its being done, but I also see it becoming a disaster as well.

[vital bramble]

dude i only liked the game for public but getting crashed got so old

[vocal shard]

it'd be cool of us 2000+ hour nolifes got to be legendary

[sly veldt]

grouped friends group online before offline

so much nicer

[vocal shard]

Lol i have 400

[winged igloo]

[vocal shard]

zencat anything to stop the fucking crasher kids

those fucking cringe gangs

I hope thats worth the known rank

[winged igloo]

Developer Update video when? lol

[indigo fern]

i miss Tuppers voice ;-;

[calm jay]

Why not, then just have a nuisance tag, andthats it?

[sly veldt]

After we all sleep @winged igloo something I haven't got much of in the last 10 days

[twin canyon]

So wait have veteran status tags even been implemented yet

[sly veldt]

lol

[vocal shard]

not in the stable ver

[sly veldt]

I'd not focus on the api stuff. Just read the blog.

[vital bramble]

yeah are veteran tags in the beta?

[calm jay]

Theres already a rank system that works to phase new people in slowly.

[twin canyon]

Well I mean I’m open debts

[gaunt dagger]

So with these tags. I'm curious-- will there be any tags for world creators at a later date?

[winged igloo]

lol

[vocal shard]

api encryption when

we can read who blocked us

atm

[vital bramble]

^

[safe prism]

that's not encryption related?

[vocal shard]

and avatar stealers literally just download the avatars

[covert chasm]

If I did a dev update right now I'd pass out in the middle of it

[calm jay]

Im not sure I approve of the varying levels of ranks. And the decision to make them visible is also asking for trouble.

[zinc solar]

[indigo fern]

also, you can see who blocked you if youre still in the same world no?

[vocal shard]

Get some sleep folks

[winged igloo]

RIP Tupper

[vocal shard]

Sleep is good

[calm jay]

Now peo0le have an excuse to feel better than other people. That never ends well.

[vocal shard]

no you can get a list of people who blocked you

from the api

using vrchat.com tricks

[tacit plank]

I think most people with 2k hours have just been AFK or sleeping while in VR

[humble sigil]

Hi-- sorry if this has already been answered, but was trust data gathered on users before this update? If so, has that data carried over, or is everyone now starting from 0? Great update, by the way.

[vocal shard]

i dunno if its kosher to so that here

[vital bramble]

dude this actually gives me reason to update my avatar world

[thick flare]

it is carried over

[limpid token]

I mean I spend like 12 hours a day on vrchat most days so

[vital bramble]

more derp chans coming boys

[vocal shard]

k-9 they're already tracking the trust ranks

[meager karma]

Also why someone with half a dozen avatars with 2.5million polys golden but I'm not when I been a good boy

[bright sparrow]

will player's current playtimes be reflected when the new build drops with the trust ranks or will they start out from scratch?

[winged igloo]

All the stuff from before the update is taken into account

[tacit plank]

Veteran-only rooms when?
Just kidding of course

[vocal shard]

they look the other way on polys

[bright sparrow]

oh cool

[vocal shard]

wink wink

[bright sparrow]

what a convenient time for me to check chat hehe xd

[vale fog]

from what I see, to get higher than "known user" you must have a popular world

[vital bramble]

can we turn off the go thing when joining a world?

[small wing]

time to start seeing that nuisance icon on like literally everyone hahaha

[vocal shard]

ranks for streamers and users with popular worlds is cancer

[small wing]

im so ready for this

[plain ridge]

Nah, I know some trusted who have no worlds.

[vocal shard]

they're going to give celebrities actual special nameplates?

fug no

[winged igloo]

It's a big combination of things, that's the point

[vocal shard]

no no no no no

[chrome jetty]

A rank for builders that can Update their world without Reviewed

[thick flare]

good

[vast tulip]

@vital bramble ready the change log, it says you can

[small wing]

Hell yeah, give streamers nametags so i can block em

[vocal shard]

oh

[thick flare]

now i can start my green gang

[small wing]

i hate being on vdeo

*video

[indigo fern]

:lul

[vocal shard]

ahrilove oh yeah like how the guy who makes hte pug can just upload changes

[indigo fern]

easy to block streamers :0

[vocal shard]

thats true

[weary bison]

streamers don't have special nametags

[vocal shard]

Still waiting for peasant rank where I belong

but its usually not the streamers

[small wing]

awh

[vocal shard]

its the people who join in on them

[chrome jetty]

That would be cool

[sly veldt]

@vocal shard calm down or out

[vocal shard]

that cringe up the place

[gaunt dagger]

A rank for builders that can Update their world without Reviewed This, so much. But at the same time, I do like the reviewers because they give me tips incase I miss something-- like if the world needs optimization and so forth. xD

[vocal shard]

how can i calm out

[tacit plank]

I'm not sure if streamers with special nametags are a good idea, they have huge egos already

[limpid token]

oof

[meager karma]

I just want a visual that is mandatory if you're streaming. I don't like being on show so it's hard to tell if somebody is streaming until they look at their hands

[cerulean dust]

The current ranks are more than enough. Anything extra will just divide the community without accomplishing much.

[sly veldt]

Spamming the feed

[tacit plank]

But something like a "virtual youtuber" tag? I wouldn't mind

[sly veldt]

questions are cool but that was over the top

[vital bramble]

EVANOR THATS A BAD IDEA THE GAME WILL DIE IF THAT HAPPENS NOBODY WILL WANT TO MAKE CONTENT

[vale fog]

I don't think giving streamers their own tag.

is a good idea

[covert chasm]

@vital bramble Chill with the caps lock my friend D:

[vital bramble]

everyone is going to be freaking out and sucking off the streamers

[limpid token]

they already do lmfao

[vale fog]

kewl got pinged by tupper. he must be a veteran vrc user

[vital bramble]

ye my b hit it by accident

[humble totem]

@vale fog There are many veterans that have not uploaded a popular world.

[indigo fern]

streamers dont have a special tag guys, calm 🅱ls

[small wing]

Does anyone know if the new system will block an avatar in general, not just the avatar if its on 1 person and in a world?

[tacit plank]

Could also make people able to add an icon to their name plates to warn others that they're streaming, but that's just a suggestion

[meager karma]

Then make it a hidden setting for streaming that I can block all using it

[winged igloo]

Streamers already have a group of people following them every where they go, don't think they want a larger one haha

[vale fog]

Wait, does it bypass friends?

[humble totem]

Yes. Friends are exempt.

[winged igloo]

Yee

[twin canyon]

I made prom so that counts right

[novel root]

@covert chasm will this new update effect people's ability to upload personal avatars or just content such as maps?

[umbral oracle]

It sounds like it is based on the user of the avatar not the uploader

[twin canyon]

nervous smile

[chrome jetty]

Streamers dont neee extra attention so i want Creator tag to, to show mah fameness?¿

[indigo fern]

friends always show

[small wing]

Im super excited about this update.

[sly veldt]

yeah, trust me from being a dev 👽 when I turn on my tag I get swarmed so streamers probs don't need that.

[winged igloo]

It is the user of the avatar

[small wing]

Considering joining the beta

[umbral oracle]

It's not about uploading. It's about who sees you

[covert chasm]

@novel root nope, the previous content gating basically turned into "Visitor -> New User".

it didn't really change other than that.

[meager karma]

I don't want attention. I want the opposite. I don't want to be on streams

[winged igloo]

Alien avatar returning when? lol

[novel root]

Ah, alright, thank you

[small wing]

Oh my goodness please bring back the alien

that was my first avatar

[winged igloo]

I used it for a bit as well haha

[small wing]

i loved it so much when i first started.

[vocal shard]

Garbage updates. Keep it up kids

[umbral oracle]

I intend to include a quad on avatars which require custom shaders with a screenshot of how I will look with shaders on and a message to please friend me or turn on shaders.

[vast tulip]

From what I understand, the content gating system has actually been live for a very long time, but now its also an in game system used for people to feel more safe

[meager karma]

The update is great. It's the visual ranks that irk me

[umbral oracle]

If this means people will go into public worlds again I'm all for it

[winged igloo]

Content gating stays the same as it has been for months, people can't make throwaway accounts to upload offensive avatars

[meager karma]

Just make it hidden who falls under the categories

[umbral oracle]

It sounds like you can choose to go incognito and hide rank. I will probably do that because I want to see everyone as my peer

[indigo fern]

OH, that reminds me, appear offline yet?

[meager karma]

Appear offline pls

[plain ridge]

I'm enjoying the colorful nametags. Gives new stuff to look at.

[winged igloo]

Why would you want to appear offline?

[meager karma]

Don't judge me

[shy nest]

pretty sure only higher ranks can incognito rank

[indigo fern]

same 👀

[white saffron]

Trusted/Vet can appear as User

[plain ridge]

Known can as well

[umbral oracle]

Anyone at least at known user can incognito to user I thin

[sly veldt]

@vocal shard how so?

[vocal shard]

I see you, Orkel

[meager karma]

So you can make yourself look like a lower rank than you are. Good idea

[umbral oracle]

Unless that causes my shaders to go away 😢

[indigo fern]

so like, i kinda just want a certain color nametag, but that wont be possible right now ;-;

[pseudo bobcat]

[chrome jetty]

[Incognito mode] ... 5 secs later tupper come in FBI OPEN UP

[meager karma]

Customisable nametags would be nice

[indigo fern]

green squad though :0

[vocal shard]

[small wing]

@sly veldt May i ask if you are planning anything with a redesign for the portals? All the shaders on them seem to drop my frame timings really hard in the hub, saw you guys like my tweet about it so i figured you are.

[maiden hound]

does anyone know the name of the vrchat waterpark?

[small wing]

The grabpass on them seem to do really bad things when there is a lot of portals.

[winged igloo]

What would be cool would to be able to appear as any one of the ranks below the rank someone actually is. At the moment you can only be your rank or User

[sly veldt]

@small wing it's a known and on the list

[small wing]

Nice!

[shy nest]

tfw you can only be user

because you dont play the game religiously and dislike adding randoms like its the last day on earth

[pallid vapor]

I absolutely love the trust system and those changes, can't wait to see it in action

[small wing]

I keep posting stuff as i find it, i like to dig deep into stuff and try to provide help and evidence to help ya.

[umbral oracle]

Use tags on your friends and then don't be afraid to add people

[maiden hound]

does anyone know the name of the vrchat waterpark? i cant find it when i search anything on vrchat.

[plain ridge]

I mean I only have like 350 hours and 20 friends and I got known

[winged igloo]

There are several waterparks

[tacit plank]

I wish more people would add distance-disable to mirrors

[bronze sable]

"only"

[small wing]

@maiden hound I think it was "hotel at night"

the one with the tube.

[plain ridge]

Well 350 is low in comparison to others who have been playing since I joined lol

[tacit plank]

Sitting on 1300 without AFKing

[maiden hound]

that one yes! thanks @small wing

[small wing]

No problem 😄

[winged igloo]

What I find funny is when I tell my IRL friends that I have spent close to 500 hours in game, that's a lot! Then I compare it to all my Steam friends who all seem to have over 1000 lol

[pseudo bobcat]

i wonder if having nuisances on your own friends list will affect your own trust rating

[vocal shard]

is this new trust and safety system going live next (assuming no problems)?

[white saffron]

I'm wondering if you can get up to Veteran without uploading "popular content"

[small wing]

Im more excited about this aforementioned Halloween event 🤔

[vast tulip]

@pseudo bobcat I highly doubt that

[small wing]

if its a contest im gonna win hehe

[plain ridge]

Halloween event last year was hype.

[vocal shard]

Oh god

[vast tulip]

@pseudo bobcat that nuisance mark is so rare too. Ive not seen any in person yet

[vocal shard]

Just realized that it's almost October

God help me

[sly veldt]

the main thing is you can go to publics again

Set your safety settings and roll

[winged igloo]

oh god it is almost October 👀

[sly veldt]

If you wanna see the crazy set them to NONE of friend someone or show their avatar

[tacit plank]

Sounds... Spooky

[small wing]

Does blocking an avatar block the blueprint id? or just the user using that avatar in that specific instance?

[sly veldt]

you wanna see nothing.. SHIELDS uP!

[indigo fern]

spooky scary time?

[plain ridge]

Oh god, it's only almost October and I was building christmas tree displays all last week at work.

[meager karma]

Just remove visible ranks and I'll shill the update too

[pseudo bobcat]

i'm afraid the safety settings won't stop roaming hackers from stealing your avatars though :/ you just won't see them do it

[winged igloo]

I'm ready for Sp00py time

[indigo fern]

Maxiumum protection!!!

[sly veldt]

Halloween in VRChat is always EPIC

[vocal shard]

Christmas tree displays? On September?

[half apex]

👌 \

[umbral oracle]

If you show a non friend avatar does it stay forever or just until you logoff

[sly veldt]

@pseudo bobcat I'm in VRChat a LOT. We're well aware of everything going on.

[winged igloo]

I missed VRChat Halloween by a few days last year, gonna make it to this one for sure!

[plain ridge]

Yep. We have already gotten rid of our halloween stuff mostly and have begun christmas

[warped urchin]

I feel like there should be a lot more long time users who have legend rank

[sly veldt]

@pseudo bobcat and you can bet we're not gonna stop working on improving 😉

That's about all I'll say

[vocal shard]

That's pretty early

[small wing]

Make a rank for 10,000 hours called "Epic gamer" hehe.

[warped urchin]

I see a bunch of people who have well over 1000 hours on VRC and are socialable yet are either trusted or lower

[vast tulip]

@pseudo bobcat I can say that I have never had my avatar stolen. I dont think people want to steal unique things. too easy to get caught that way. ive been in public a long time the last few days too while testing this client

[warped urchin]

It doesn't really make any sense.

[grand zealot]

Do I need some sort of code to access the beta?

[tacit plank]

Will you have worlds with no nametags again?

[plain ridge]

Veteran seems to be more about people who have a combination of long playtime, a lot of popular content/contributions to the community etc

[sly veldt]

@warped urchin first of all we're not complete yet until this releases. This is a test period

[vocal shard]

Speaking of content creation, I should probly learn to do it now since I got VR this week

[sly veldt]

Secondly.. nobody will get left out or unfairly ranked. TRUST ME 😛

[vast tulip]

I hope we get that again. no nametags is kinda essential to horror maps

[warped urchin]

Especially since it seems very very few people have legend.

[pseudo bobcat]

well @vast tulip the last time i visited a public world, i got disconnected+logged out in about 2 seconds by a russian hacker

[shy nest]

cheeky breeky

[warped urchin]

@sly veldt hope so :P also I dunno has there been talk about maybe moving around the things being limited?

[sly veldt]

Hmm?

[warped urchin]

Maybe having limits in place instead of entirely cutting stuff out?

[sly veldt]

They weren't set lightly

[warped urchin]

Like custom animations I don't think imo that deserves vet

[sly veldt]

There's another sister system coming soon that's Performance

[meager karma]

But you can't guarantee people won't be excluded for their colour. Mute and desktop get bullied all the time

[shy nest]

[plain ridge]

You can customize what rank displays what

[warped urchin]

Almost wanna say that should have been particles

[umbral oracle]

Limits are freaking hard though. People will start finding ways to game them

[indigo fern]

Did he just say p-p-performance??

[winged igloo]

From my understanding, Trusted is pretty hard to get to, Veteran is for the really dedicated, people who you'd legitimately consider to be Veterans of the community

[white saffron]

I hope popular content doesn't gate access to the Veteran rank at least

[sly veldt]

@warped urchin you can set things how you want with Custom. done

Or friend them. or show avatar

[vast tulip]

@meager karma even if people do that, those are the kinda people who would just block all avatars by non friends anyways. so its not really different. this just lets you decide how it works yourself

[warped urchin]

Yeah I know just was wondering if those were due to change any time, but they ain't so it's no worries.

[white saffron]

If you play for thousands of hours and have hundreds of friends and have been around for a while and can't have it because you don't upload popular content that kinda blows

[meager karma]

Why not just avoid it in the first place and make ranks not visible

[warped urchin]

@meager karma you can do that too

[sly veldt]

@white saffron that's not how it works.

[plain ridge]

It can be a fun thing to display for people. If you run into people who are using it to show superiority over others, just ignore them and move on. People will be toxic.

[tacit plank]

I don't see the problem with ranks

[white saffron]

Good to hear

[winged igloo]

Seeing higher ranks for new users is also very useful because they can know who to ask for help or advice easily

[pseudo bobcat]

i suppose i'll wait for the update to release next week and see if it switches me into vet

[meager karma]

It's cons don't justify it for me

[winged igloo]

Higher ranks can also help welcome newer users to the community

[plain ridge]

Exactly, if you have any questions hunt down kimple.

[winged igloo]

Kimple for sure!

[umbral oracle]

The nice thing is this is all up to each person's preference. This happened on the web too. Pages had javascript and people started abusing javascript to show popups. Then they added popup blockers and then noscript. I like browsing without noscript but everyone is different

[sly veldt]

ok. I'm gonna take off. Just give it a try and keep an open mind. the goal is to make VRchat a better experience for new users as well as current.

[warped urchin]

Since you're here Ron. I was wondering if there was any large reasons why a unity update wasn't going to be done down the line let's say Feb next year or so. Since as far as I've heard and read from most unity devs the update is pretty seem less to go through with not much stuff changing other then their names.

[winged igloo]

See ya mate! Have a good one!

[sly veldt]

Unity update is on the books but that's a big job. We don't want to break everyones content

one thing at a time

UDON is next

[meager karma]

Make vrchat better preemptively and make ranks not visible thanks

[sly veldt]

along with a possible uupdate

[plain ridge]

Udon

[half apex]

XD

[indigo fern]

He said the U word 👀

[tacit plank]

Can't two versions of Unity coexist for worlds?

[south viper]

curious whether udon will unblock any of my projects

[warped urchin]

Mhmm maybe a map preload/download button soonish

:3

[analog canopy]

DID SOMEONE MENTION U D O N

[plain ridge]

I have got the hungers. And the only cure is some... Udon.

[winged igloo]

U D O N

[indigo fern]

yum

[warped urchin]

Since I know a good lot who have hella slow internet which would use that quite alot

[winged igloo]

Udon is the first step towards the Oasis lol

[floral aspen]

^

[sly veldt]

Ok. Gotta go. Good to hear some feedback. Check out blog. Check out build. Should be a release in the coming week. Give feedback here

vrchat.canny.io

[indigo fern]

the man is tired, let him sleep

[half apex]

thank you and the team of vrchat for working hard.

[meager karma]

Oh boy

[sly veldt]

I'm beyond exhausted

thank you

🙏

See you in VRchat or around

[indigo fern]

🙏 👽 🙏

[sly veldt]

👽

[winged igloo]

Working until 4am! Take care of yourself man!

[warped urchin]

forget udon wheres project zeus

[winged igloo]

I am beyond hyped

[urban tiger]

OMG, it's RON

[plain ridge]

So when do the devs disable the logout button so we can have SAO

[winged igloo]

OMG it's Peach!

lol

[urban tiger]

OMG it's Eret

[analog canopy]

OMG

[tacit plank]

Now that we're suggesting things... How about a clock in the menu?

[winged igloo]

If you die in VRChat, you die in real life

[urban tiger]

gasp

[analog canopy]

i wish

[half apex]

a way to see how many friends you have

[tacit plank]

The time probably exists somewhere in the system already

The API knows how many friends you have, but I'm not sure how to access it

[winged igloo]

The steam VR menu does have a clock in it, if you want to check the time that's a good way of doing it

[umbral oracle]

Want clocks? Upvote this https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/provide-real-world-time-data-to-shaders-1

[tidal onyx]

Why a clock in the menu when you can use the shader that shows the time

[analog canopy]

thank god the steam overlay fps bug has gone away so i can check the time with it

[warped urchin]

Oculus has a wristwatch

[tacit plank]

Oh, right. The Steam overlay sucks though lol

In VR

[warped urchin]

Steam VR is ass

[winged igloo]

Oooh yeah I forgot about that

[tacit plank]

And.. My immersion! 😛

[warped urchin]

Like why had Oculus massively improved their dassh

[winged igloo]

Oculus now has a virtual wrist watch

[south viper]

I have delayed voting on this only because it still doesn't let me implement my clocks

[warped urchin]

But steamvr still looks like it's running on 0.1v

[tacit plank]

Some worlds have build-in clocks, so the time should already exist in the game data somewhere

[warped urchin]

That's most likely a online texture

[pseudo bobcat]

@analog canopy sure it's gone? I still get my FPS dropping to 11 when opening either the Steam overlay or Oculus Dash sometimes

[floral aspen]

Oculus Dash > Steam VR by a mile

[winged igloo]

They pulled off having good timing for the New Year celebrations, it must be there somewhere

[analog canopy]

ive had be gone for me at least and it used to be every time

[pseudo bobcat]

after what update did you notice it being gone?

[tacit plank]

Almost forgot about that... Does that world still exist?

[winged igloo]

Yeah the world still exists

[pseudo bobcat]

for me, it works better than before - but i can still get the FPS death sometimes, not every time like before though

[winged igloo]

I made most of the posters for it, very proud lol

[tacit plank]

Nice 😄 I enjoyed the posters and references

[analog canopy]

a few updates ago, its been awhile, im not too sure the exact one

[winged igloo]

We've got to come up with a way to top it this year though haha

[floral aspen]

Yeah, the new years world was really cool

[tacit plank]

One of the posters was a guy surrounded by lolis.. That's what I strive to be

[floral aspen]

Sounds like the poster of Nagzz lol

[tacit plank]

Also there was a HGTG reference right?

[winged igloo]

Yeah, that was Nagzz lol

What's HGTG?

[tacit plank]

"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

[winged igloo]

Ah yeah, pretty sure there was

[tacit plank]

Could have been something else, I just remember some semi-obscure references that I really enjoyed

[plain ridge]

I remember when nagzz was the edgy mobster boy, now he just has his loli army

[winged igloo]

There was definitely a HGTG poster

[tacit plank]

I'm not sure who nagzz is

Is he related to the loli army world?

[winged igloo]

Nah, he's a big VRChat YouTuber and Streamer

[tacit plank]

Ah, I don't watch Youtubers much

[winged igloo]

Got a lot of people into the game before it really blew up in popularity

[tacit plank]

Also isn't loli army pretty much dead? It has so many great avatars, but I haven't seen anyone with a "loli army" icon above their head in half a year

[pseudo bobcat]

nagzz is a fun guy, havent met him in vrchat for months though

[winged igloo]

As far as I know, yeah

[tidal onyx]

Same

[plain ridge]

I joined vrchat because of that video of the guy trying to kiss the girl and getting blocked by unity chan

[indigo fern]

[tacit plank]

Nice, could use some more popularity

[winged igloo]

He's had to keep to private worlds because he would get swamped and crashed otherwise

This new update may help that

[plain ridge]

Fan boyed hard when evolved added me on my old account lol

[tacit plank]

Most crashers seem to be using malicious RPC calls now

[vocal shard]

Looking to play with someone as cute as me

[tacit plank]

I guess error-handling could fix that, it seems to be things like buffer overflows

I think new loading messages for higher ranks could be fun. Slowly transitioning from tutorial stuff to "you better have merged your meshes"

[tidal onyx]

No thanks

[winged igloo]

That's a cool suggestion

[tacit plank]

Probably a bad idea, but still a fun one

[plain ridge]

The only tutorial you need is leave upper chest blank

[tidal onyx]

I don't like that User outcut system

[pseudo bobcat]

there are many new users who are already experienced in blender and unity

[tacit plank]

At least I think tutorial-level messages will get ignored by anyone with more than 20 hours played

[winged igloo]

I think it can also act as a news board in the future

[tacit plank]

That would be cool

Man loli army is so old that the models are actually decimated below 20k

[vocal shard]

When I first installed VRchat it skipped the tutorial for me.

[umbral oracle]

Me too. I misclicked fumbling with my headset and oh well, guess it wasn't important

Then you go around the hub and ask people and everyone just figures things out. I'm still learning stuff like oh that's what vive advanced controls does (locking gestures to trigger)

[gaunt carbon]

When your entire gimmick is deforming avatars with shaders, and you are a known user

rip

[royal garnet]

I'm of the mind that people that are at the "User" level should just have particles disabled by default.

[tacit plank]

I have an avatar which doesn't have a bra on if you look from behind, but it does otherwise

[gaunt carbon]

enjoy the ban

[shy nest]

tfw you're a user

[tacit plank]

You can't do anything to actually look at it

The stencil which removes it is only behind the avatar

[royal garnet]

Does that work with a mirror?

[tacit plank]

It's also safe in mirrors as far as I remember

[vocal shard]

Some guy named Waverly just crashed my friend and now my friend keeps on getting blue screened and he threatened to dox me

[tacit plank]

Because a mirror doesn't reflect, but acts as a camera or something?

I'd say report and block

Who is he going to dox you to? I doubt random people would remember your address yet alone care to listen to it

[royal garnet]

Report, block, move on

[tacit plank]

He sounds like an asshole though, that guy

[umbral oracle]

Caffeine haha I didn't go quite to such an extreme. I did full clothes from in front, only bra from behind. I used particles to render stencil quads so I could use particle triggers to control it.

[tacit plank]

Haha, nice

I just placed an invisible stencil plane behind it

[umbral oracle]

I had a mode to flip it (using the invert operation in stencil). That confuses people even more

[tacit plank]

Some experienced players have custom shaders which can reveal stencils though, but I've only seen that once

Lol, that's great!

[umbral oracle]

I'm really sad being only a known user. I still have So many ideas for playful shader effects. And most people won't even see them now

[shy nest]

does anyone have a decent text/video tutorial on doing stencil stuff? been wanting to try it myself

[tacit plank]

Get vet before the new system 😄

[umbral oracle]

I recommend giving xiexe shader a try. It lets you set stencil values in the unity editor inspector

Make sure to download the latest version from vrcat.club. He had some bug in an older version with stencil

[shy nest]

aight cheers

[vocal shard]

563 hours and im a known user aha

[tacit plank]

I just added stencils to flat lit toon, it's a one-liner

[umbral oracle]

Basically you should think of stencil as an 8 bit binary value. You can set, add, invert bits and check bits equal to a value. Read up on binary operations quickly if you aren't familiar. It can help

Though You can do just operation equal to some number and always use every bit (mask 255) to start with

Also avoid high bits (high numbers 64 or above). I think unity or vrchat uses those internally

[tacit plank]

Won't need to know binary

If you look through stencil things, a value gets added to that part of your screen, and then you can decide what should render with shaders

My avatar had the stencil value 2 on the plane, and "ref 2 not equal" or something on the bra

[golden bluff]

750 hours, 101 avatars uploaded, 530 friends, full body and a known user

the fuck

[tacit plank]

About 1k hours on this account, 120 or so avatars (but deleted a few), 200ish friends, have VR, veteran

[umbral oracle]

I gave you a nice standard shaded emote e-lady. Caffeine, any worlds uploaded?

[golden bluff]

Just uploaded a private world today

[tacit plank]

I have some private and one public, but I got vet before I uploaded it

[safe prism]

API veteran or in-game veteran

API is offset by one

[umbral oracle]

Oh which way is it offset

[golden bluff]

Maybe I have too many low ranked friends and 40 people who blocked me isn't helping

[safe prism]

system_trust_legend is veteran in-game

[tacit plank]

That tag doesn't exist

[safe prism]

it does lmao

[tacit plank]

There's system_legend and system_trust_veteran

[safe prism]

sec

[umbral oracle]

I am going to check out the beta soon. So is known actually trusted?

[vale fog]

known still blocks shaders which is stupid

[golden bluff]

Your actual rank is one rank below tagged rank

[plain ridge]

You can edit that for yourself.

[vale fog]

Get ready to get shit on for not being purple though

[golden bluff]

So system_trust_trusted is known

[safe prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409853484179914765/492332014528364545/unknown.png

2 of my friends have it

[umbral oracle]

Oh so I might just be green :-p

[safe prism]

these same friends are gold

[tacit plank]

"system_trust_basic","system_trust_intermediate","system_trust_known","system_trust_trusted","system_trust_veteran" There are these

Possibly not in correct order

[safe prism]

there's one more lol

see link ^

[plain ridge]

Honestly as long as you aren't the lowest tier not much changes. Can still upload.

[tacit plank]

wait, there's a trust_legend?

[safe prism]

yess

[tacit plank]

Oh wow

[safe prism]

that's veteran in game

[umbral oracle]

Anyway I am nowhere near shader privs so I'm just gonna be a quad with hidden shader begging people to show me

[vocal shard]

Looking to play with someone as cute as me

[fringe glade]

When people having 4 bans are trusted + and i'm trusted with 780 hours on my account with one ban day 1 because i randomly took a kanna and got associated with kanna gang on my first day.

Let go fam 👏

Sorry had to vent yikes

Me go home

[umbral oracle]

Hope 4 bans isn't rip. I might have a few bans by walking into pug with that buggy version of cubed lite shader without knowing it 😦

[plain ridge]

Most if not all of the Veteran that I have seen are content creators (as in avatars and worlds)

[thick flare]

when you say bans you mean kicked?

[fringe glade]

I mean bans.

Actual bans.

[umbral oracle]

Oh not blocks :-p

[fringe glade]

And they're higher in rank with like 2 months old account

[thick flare]

.>

[fringe glade]

Autistic system we got there

[plain ridge]

Well it's by no means a finalized system. They will be making changes before launch.

[thick flare]

i need to add more friends just to get purple

n>friends

[umbral oracle]

Still happy people will at least be in public worlds now. So many people got isolated in friends+ and I think it hurt usage

[thick flare]

idk

i want to avoid the block as much as possible

[safe prism]

for exact proof: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409853484179914765/492320307860733952/unknown.png
in-game: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409853484179914765/492539311032369162/unknown.png?width=1053&height=677

where this is purple: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409853484179914765/492340376577769472/unknown.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/409853484179914765/492330990539112458/20180908222443_1.jpg?width=688&height=676

[thick flare]

and you know how block happy some people are

[plain ridge]

I mean just getting purple won't completely fix that. If people are block happy they could still add all of the limits to trusted group as well.

[vast tulip]

@safe prism thats because you're poking around an api that is not meant to be read so the name of ranks probably dont match up

[safe prism]

yes i know

just people above didn't believe it

and were basing their own assumptions on it

[vocal shard]

Please tell me if im wrong because I don’t know where to ask. Dont start trolling me like you did last time but....

[south viper]

I assume they're only keeping the API the same to avoid disturbing current clients but hope that they will be bumping the names in the beta

[thick flare]

@vocal shard what you did wrong is pinging the admins

for non important stuffs

[vocal shard]

@thick flare i didnt i was not in the wrong i only pinged them because people harrassed me!

What was I supposed to do

They wouldn’t stop trolling

[thick flare]

well,okay....

[vocal shard]

Anyway please let me ask my question as idk if part of avatar or animations

@thick flare see thing is for help I don’t think for shaders is a part of animation or avatars so idk. Unless if its a part of avatars but they really should have a #shaders chat

[modern sand]

#avatars-2-general #animation

[vocal shard]

And hey ruubick no hard feelings right? I was just being trolled by others and didn’t know what to do

I just didn’t know how to react

[fading owl]

this is vrc-general =w=

[vocal shard]

Nono your right i could had blocked them. I was told by someone that would had been the best action against trollers. Also thank you mimi im going to move my question

[vast tulip]

oh

opps!

[fading owl]

xD

[umbral oracle]

+1 for a #shaders chat

[vocal shard]

You could just go in the open beta, launch VRChat and check it

I'm just peasant user with 250~ hours, 29 friends and no uploaded content

👌

[fading owl]

😂

im interested to see my rank

😄

500 hrs 100+ Avatars and about 60 Friends

[opaque jewel]

I'm unfortunately curious.

[fading owl]

😄

[opaque jewel]

I'm not too fond of the ranking system as a whole though.

[tacit plank]

Open network tab on the vrchat home page (and refresh)

[shy nest]

do you really have 100+ avatars? you sure like a good bit of them just arent dupes of the same model but with different animations/gestures?

[fading owl]

yeah i just metioned that in the discussion chat, i think it might make groups appear

@shy nest i only have 2 or 3 duplicates 😄

the rest are unique

[tacit plank]

Most of mine are unique lolis

It's like pokemon, I need all the lolis

[fading owl]

they range from stupid memes to avatars i worked days on ;D

[shy nest]

aight, it just irks me when people have a bunch of avatars but like 25% of them are the same model with different gestures

[fading owl]

ye i know

i try to fit the ones i want into a single one

and reupload a different variation on the same id if i feel like it

100+ avatars are a pain to scroll through already

[shy nest]

it'd be shit if the system also factored in avatars uploaded, because i clean mine out so i dont need to scroll through a shitload

[fading owl]

true

[opaque jewel]

I do that, but in my defense a certain controller broke so I can't use it.

[fading owl]

oof

[shy nest]

same with friends, I keep people on it that I talk to somewhat. I do need to do a bit of a clean out soon

i hate people adding me because of an avatar or something

[fading owl]

i have a friends, met once and who tf are u category 😂

[opaque jewel]

My animations consist of gags

[plain ridge]

Recently cleaned my list from like 200 people down to ~20

[fading owl]

i dislike deleting friends without them knowing 😛

[opaque jewel]

Falling anvil, bombs, my mallet

[shy nest]

I want people to add me for my personality not because of some fuckin anime character model

or some stupid meme shit id make

[opaque jewel]

Not to mention my signs I use to talk

[fading owl]

Well, im silent a lot of the time i play

i show people memes

and if they give me a nice reaction i talk to them

[opaque jewel]

I'm pretty fluent in sign language

I hate myself.

[fading owl]

im not XD

my sign language is awful

[shy nest]

lmao I was legit thinking you had like legit signs you'd just pull out lmao

[fading owl]

i struggle, then i write, then i talk because people still dont get it

[opaque jewel]

@shy nest I do

[shy nest]

[fading owl]

😂

[opaque jewel]

Hello, Goodbye, Thank you, You're Welcome, Yes, No, Okay, What. Basic words that work

I did have Inhale and Boi.

[fading owl]

lmao

actually smart 😂