and fitting assets
#vrchat-general-2
ruby needle
umbral reef
If its an game like VRC- Maybe yes
But fuck hell no that companies will ever worth together to make those things
vocal shard
You'll get your brain fried by some sociopaths just because they got nothing else to do...
twin vessel
Worth together
civic vine
@ruby needle but will people even want that in the future?
umbral reef
Best case steam or some big platform enforces there 'hub' to all games and makes it that way
twin vessel
Go commit deathspacito
umbral reef
But well-- Thats not an pretty idea imo
twin vessel
vocal shard
SIGH @twin vessel Etma
twin vessel
Go commit ligma
civic vine
why are we dealing with cancer now?
vocal shard
You go commit both Sugondese and Sugma!
twin vessel
Go commit toaster bath
vocal shard
Also #general-media
twin vessel
#ligma
vocal shard
Before we get ruubick'ed
twin vessel
Roblox'd
distant charm
Please stay on topic guys. Move over to #general-media
civic vine
DSVR seems to be quite vague, can you link me something on it?
vocal shard
You go commit drier in big water bowl
vocal shard
@civic vine just like the Ready Player One idea is vague so is the DSVR idea...
twin vessel
The fuck is dsvr
civic vine
@vocal shard @twin vessel we're talking here, please insult eachother somewhere else.
twin vessel
twin vessel
No epic gamer moments allowed
vocal shard
The adults going to get the sandal or the flip-flop if we ain't careful
civic vine
I'm glad that's clear.
vocal shard
They already changed channels and topics so what is your point really?
civic vine
who did what now?
So anyhow, my point being I'm quite attached to my creation, I'd like to use it in other games. If I could use my avatar in other games I would and if there was a platform that would allow me to do this I would support it, even if it meant I had to sacrifice the creative vision of the games developers for the main character - or not, as it would be optional.
and if they did want some creative control, then maybe the devs could implement some sort of uniform that be in keeping with the games aesthetic that could be integrated with the user avatar
that, to me, sounds like progress.
vocal shard
Again, that would be going through to much work and would be costing a fortune both for the development team and the consumer...
civic vine
currently
vocal shard
And only would probably be used by very rich people...
civic vine
like laserdisc
civic vine
oh, so cos you can't do it today you can't ever do it?
umbral reef
Then you will understand why 3 diffrent people repeated the same reason it wont happen
civic vine
it will only happen once.
umbral reef
I can jump of a bridge today- Does it mean its worth and smart doing it?
Companies still cant even get cross platform play going...
Let stand cross Dev company and Cross platform...
civic vine
well, they can
civic vine
they do
umbral reef
For CLEAR reasons
civic vine
fortnight
umbral reef
So the biggest game is currently doing basic crosplay-- Id wish you luck listing 4 more of AAA size
civic vine
$2M a day on the mobile platform cos there's crossplay, the owner of epic games is now a billionaire
umbral reef
You think a company like that has an owner?...
vocal shard
The Company is the literal owner
kind folio
why clear the cache when you can just remove it entirely 😏
umbral reef
Facebook techically has The ZUC as owner- But he doesnt have that title
He is the head shareholder
vocal shard
I said nothing 👀
vocal shard
Thank you very much!
umbral reef
Ma Huateng technically owns fortnite as he has 40% of epic games share with his company TenCent
umbral reef
So the creator of epic games doesnt own it close at all 🤷 or fortnite that is
civic vine
AoE, ARK SE, CrackDown 3, FFXV, ForzaH 3, 4, Forza M 7, GoW 4, Minecraft, Sea of Thieves. more than 10 crossplay games, but if you want more I can list them
kind folio
TenCent owns everything 
vocal shard
I thought Disney, McDonalds and Coca-Cola own everything 👀
kind folio
u thot
tacit plank
Stocks are bullshit
umbral reef
Most dindt even have full crossplay- As an example Gow 4 just had Xbox to PC-- And thats because of windows 10 and xbox being a overpriced PC
civic vine
@umbral reef regardless of his share, he's a Billionaire, him personally.
civic vine
yes it is.
tacit plank
With stocks, random wealthy people can buy companies and tell them what to do with their product
umbral reef
Legit most of the crossplay games you said is Xbox and PC
kind folio
sea of thieves doesnt exist its ok
tacit plank
Which results in everything being made to make money
umbral reef
And xbox is legit a overpriced windows 10 computer...
kind folio
^ lmao
umbral reef
It was the selling point of windows 10 and Xbox
Would be saying imo that apple and windows can crossplay...
tacit plank
And it's literally illegal to cause your stocks to drop in price
kind folio
console will eventually die
civic vine
@umbral reef I legit looked up games that were crossplay between Windows and Xbox, but it answers your assertion.
tacit plank
So if you're a big company, you have to fuck people over by law
umbral reef
The fortnite stuff is proper crossplay
civic vine
@umbral reef you tell me it's success has taught other developers nothing.
umbral reef
Not really no--
Story driven games have sold insanely well with lower production costs then Big MMO style games
But ey- We still make lots of big AAA games multiplayer games that are MMO lite's
Or ruin games with lootboxes after a clear msg--
Companies greed wins always
civic vine
So what we're talking about is infrastructure, one big one being cheaper than 10 smaller ones.
umbral reef
But- Its 12:20 am for me
I have to wake up at 7:15 Pm im heading off-
Just google or watch a youtube video on economics and why stuff like sharing avatars wont happen
tacit plank
Atm it seems that companies are just re-releasing games
umbral reef
3 peeps explained it already but you refused to listen to all for that specific reason so
fiery moth
Why is this game so addicting
civic vine
@umbral reef it only wont happen until the one time it happens.
fiery moth
I pulled 2 all nighters in a row
umbral reef
Same rule goes for nukes :^)
fiery moth
My sleep schedule is so fucked
civic vine
we can agree on that
tacit plank
Sometimes adding gambling to get kids hooked, and dumbing down the games to appeal for a larger group and removing everything which could be seen as offensive or bad PR
civic vine
Did you know that Blockbuster Video once had a plan to make a theme park the size of a city block and ban children from it after 6pm?
You know the one reason it didn't happen?
they didn't do it quick enough.
burnt frigate
Did anyone ever have the issue of a black screen when joining worlds and vrchat stopping to respond?
ruby needle
try the steps in #vrchat-support
burnt frigate
did them all already
sharp wave
hey just installed vrchat,and tried to login but it says unauthorized?help?
burnt frigate
contacted support did all their steps so i was thinking maybe one of you have had those issues
the issues started 2 days ago after working fine for 2 months
which is very odd
burnt frigate
it is on a lot of worlds i tried to join some do work but it is basically the basic stuff like presentation and mic night but even the base homeworld doesnt work
grim cairn
Anone
swift heron
I gave my info to a friend of mine so he could upload an avatar for me, I then come back from vacation and login and now im banned for crashing people? I need help i think i got fucked somehow
karmic talon
Nice friend
swift heron
i need to get unbanned 
vocal shard
how long are you banned?
swift heron
a month
vocal shard
then you will have to wait 1 month
karmic talon
I mean I guess you can just wait a month
swift heron
fuck
vocal shard
you should change your passwords tho
swift heron
i did
karmic talon
Yeaaa
swift heron
i cant login through steam either
karmic talon
Ngl this is a pretty good lesson to not share your account info with people
swift heron
i guess so
karmic talon
Even people you trust
swift heron
i was hoping I could get some help from moderation but ive been waiting all day
swift heron
not rlly ive been on vacation for a week
vocal shard
then you'll have to wait for a month
vocal shard
Have you tried sending a support email? Explaining your situation?
swift heron
yes i can do another
vocal shard
They expect immediate answers from moderation...
they wont unban you
you have no proof that it wasnt you
vast tulip
@rough pulsar I believe the idea behind vrm is you are making a universal avatar, not creating a model. choosing what the avatar can participate in can let the people who makes games disallow avatars that dont allow violence from entering a world where you will shoot each other
you make one character once, then use it in any game that supports it with the rules for the avatar enforced by the game itself
burnt frigate
i feel like my issue comes from custom video players and music players in most worlds
sooo has anyone ever had issues with video worlds?
tacit plank
If a readme file says "Do not use for violent things" it will be deleted on the spot
finite kraken
What’s the best way to add tattoos to your model? All I know is don’t paste it ontop your map. Because if it’s a double sided map
tacit plank
I didn't understand that. But can't you just add a tattoo to the texture in photoshop or something similar?
median basalt
@finite kraken add it to the texture in GIMP
You might have to unwrap the vertices where you want the tattoo
finite kraken
So if the map is set to the one side of the body and it duplicate the map to both sides then how would that work?
keen narwhal
Um does anyone know how to fix the sdk? My thing only shows clear cashe and stuff. I tried reinstalling the vrchat sdk over and over and i still have the same problem... (I haven't used unity in a month)
ruby needle
did you click on the button yet?
and did you remove the old SDK from the assets first before you installed the new one again?
finite kraken
Alrighty whatever then
runic thorn
Guys for how long do you have to play to get the ability to upload own avatars,cuz it doesn't let me???
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
cinder viper
Bit random and I don't know we're to post this but can you run two vechat apps at one time. Reason I wanted to know is for recording myself I have two accounts just need to find a way to load vechat twice.
lilac swan
Tried opening the .exe itself in the install folder?
cinder viper
I've not tried it I normally load though steam but I'll give it a go
ruby needle
what do you want to record? cus there is the camera feature
one issue i could see with 2 accounts on the same PC beeing both accessing the same cache and log
and the second automatically logging in to the saved account
lilac swan
I have run two accounts and clients before (VR and nonVR) so it's definitely possible, unless things have changed recently
cinder viper
I am using obs with overlay to record my self in Vr doing a weekly news type of show. The second account would no br in Vr. Kinds like zarniwoop just said.
ruby needle
if you want a static shot the new camera video mode can replace your desktop renderer for a static shot
lilac swan
The benefit of using a second client is you would get the audio receiving from that position
cinder viper
It's worked zarniwoop I was able to run it and sign out then go in with second account set up as a camera thanks.
lilac swan
You can also use --no-VR I believe the parameter was to force VRchat to start in desktop mode, so you can make a shortcut pointing to the .exe
cinder viper
Oooo thanks I'll do that as well make it little easy next time I load it up.
ruby needle
running 2 clients sounds so bad considering the current performance 
safe prism
btw, vrchat uses a diff log file for the second instance
cinder viper
Is if you are only use one cpu and gpu I am very lucky to have dual of both so my rig can run a lot more then normal pc.
safe prism
it'll attach a 1 to the second one running's name
cinder viper
My pc is 2x i7 8720x 2x 1080 8gb 64gb ddr4 ram 9tb Samsung hard and 2Tb Ssd Samsung evo950 something. That all my spec to run two vechat apps on. While I record it.
tacit plank
Lol, a quadcore can run 4 instances easily
tacit plank
Why 2* 1080 and not a 1080ti though?
cinder viper
Really only use one cpu?
ruby needle
one thread yes
cinder viper
They were on sale lot cheaper than one Ti so went for two cards instead of one.
tacit plank
VRchat multithreads poorly
cinder viper
That's a shame
safe prism
how do you run two HEDT chips that don't have QPI links/any socket scalability
sounds like one socket does nothing
tacit plank
Also is that an M2 SSD?
They run like 5 times faster than regular SSDs, so I can recommend them
cinder viper
Okano that second socket dose nothing for gaming or we'll anything until I manually tell the server board I need it. Yeah it's M2 Samsung Hdd is from the official shop here in UK. I use the machine more for work then games but thought I'd try this see if it would work.
safe prism
the extra cpu literally can't do anything though
that feature isn't on desktop HEDT chips
that's what's getting me
tacit plank
Can't booth Windows that fast, because the limiting factor becomes the CPU or something
cinder viper
Yup it can't do anything at all unless I boot from my other drive with window server on it so easy way to put it is. One side of the board is like normal desk top while the other handles windows 2008 server. The a switch on the bottom of the board.
When I put the switch to one side board reads from that side
Dose that make bit more sense?
safe prism
that sounds like you're just using two systems on the exact same board, but you can only use one at a time
which begs why do you even have two
BUT EVEN THEN i'd love to know what mobo you're running
i've never come across a dual socket with that capability
cinder viper
That basically it it's one system you can only boot one at time
nocturne parcel
can anyone tell me were to ask for help my sdk update went wired
safe prism
even better, there's x299 dual socket motherboards AT ALL?
no x299 cpu supports multiple sockets
none of this adds up boyo
nocturne parcel
bad time???
cinder viper
@safe prism am idiot sorry I put down dual i7 just ran speccy it's a Xeon Series S2011 v3 ASUS Motherboard with Intel Xeon E5 I was wondering what you was on about that you cannot run dual cpu? Then ran speccy to make sure if have got dual cpu? No your right. And sorry sdk for unity normal just ask here.
safe prism
nice save
cinder viper
I think what you on about I use this machine for server hosting and stuff.
cinder viper
that's why was asking about if you can run two vechat apps and posted my spec's.
ruby needle
geneally you have more then enogh cores to balance multiple instances on
but the generall performance per instance wont be that great
but that doesnt change if both use different threads on different cores
rough pulsar
If running two instances of vrchat normally doesn't work out for whatever reasons, you might be able to do PCIe GPU passthrough to a VM and run a second instance in that. @cinder viper
safe prism
^ thinking the same
ruby needle
with that dual CPU and GPU system
you could maybe even make a dual head system
with 2 separat systems one with a CPU and GPU
safe prism
or just leave it to emulation so you're in a constant cancer/meme world in every instance
5 fps per instance yayyy
safe prism
ye boi
ruby needle
ruby needle
still would recommed trying the camera feature before duing dual instance things
safe prism
works for desktop though
e.g. pinkyweb anytime you see them around just has their camera drone
no vr no cry
vocal shard
Oi mates, Ive been playin for 10 hours, but i still cant upload a bloody avatar
ruby needle
thats not long
ruby needle
hopefully you made somefriends allready, keep that up and youll soon get your mail / notification 
vocal shard
thanks for the advice m8
mighty galleon
<.<
burnt frigate
it is frustrating not being able to join people just because the world they are in got videos or music players...
burnt frigate
https://steamcommunity.com/app/438100/discussions/5/1729827777344464134/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/438100/discussions/5/1762482479186004373/
seems few people had similar issues but no clue on them ever having fixed it.
topaz sapphire
Hello everyone ❤
Just wanted to give a quick heads up on HDS: Big Brother Part 2, I will release a new update v1.1 soon (This will add new content, new fear rooms, LOTS of bug-fixes and two challenge modes and of course, secrets and easter eggs ❤ !
burnt frigate
guess that is 1000€ (vive + fullbody) down the drain if vrchat doesnt work...
topaz sapphire
Oof.
burnt frigate
yup sucks
fiery moth
Were you stealing avatars by any chance?
Seen some pretty fucking hilarious trolls that people do with their avatars, so if its ripped, it totally fucks the person whos done it
burnt frigate
no i am not stealing any avatars o_O?
burnt frigate
no tried with steam account still blackscreens
topaz sapphire
Do you have any other PC, machine that you can install it on to see if its not your machine.
burnt frigate
nope
topaz sapphire
GPU driver update?
burnt frigate
did update everything
topaz sapphire
Okay, i'd suggest installing it on a different machine.
To see if that works.
If you have any thouigh.
burnt frigate
got no other pc able to run it
so yeah
and it worked fine for 2 months
and now fucks up for 2 days straight
topaz sapphire
And when you reinstalled it.
Did you manually remove all content?
From the steam folder.
burnt frigate
yes
topaz sapphire
Okay.
Reinstall Directx?
Or.
When you start VRChat.exe
During taskmanager, set the priority to high.
Not Realtime.
burnt frigate
the thing is it blackscreens probably related to videos/youtube players
burnt frigate
yes
topaz sapphire
Also, try opening VRChat with CTRL enabled.
burnt frigate
turned everything off
burnt frigate
did delete registry keys too so it is base settings
topaz sapphire
Okay.
Then the only option.
From what I know.
Is a little out of the box.
Nah nevermind.
burnt frigate
like i mean even the standard home you know the one you have as base home world doesnt load in
because it has videos
burnt frigate
It is happening in both
topaz sapphire
Then i'd suggest contacting support.
burnt frigate
did already
burnt frigate
say it is internet connectivity which i dont think it is as everything works fine did all the steps nothing changed
waiting for another response
i mean if it would be connectivity issue why is it only worlds with video and music players?
like even if a world has a video as part of it it doesnt work
safe prism
are you on windows 7
burnt frigate
win10
safe prism
ok
topaz sapphire
That is very odd.
What is your internet connection?
As in Up and Down.
Speed wise.
burnt frigate
also when i now try to delete the streaming assests in the vrchat folder on steam it says "data in this folder is still used by another program
but nothing related to vrchat is open
mind you it has worked for 2 months so suddenly there being any internet issues i dont think thats a thing
vocal shard
half dove
Haha
wary cave
Beepbeeo ima shep
karmic talon
Oh no
wary cave
Oh no?
karmic talon
Oh no.
median lake
Apparently you can send text messages to people on desktop. Someone I know said they got a text message and they said you click on someone and press M, but it doesn't seem to work for me.
Anyone know what the dealio is?
wary cave
I didnt even know u could msg people
vocal shard
yeah, someone lied to you lmao
median lake
A couple people I'm hanging out with said they've got one as well. It comes up like a notification like an invite or friend add etc.
vocal shard
there is no way to send a message in vrchat
so either they are bullshitting you or they dont know what they are talking about
karmic talon
Probably a joke
vocal shard
even the new updates isnt talking about any message system
lilac swan
That's not completely true. There are exploits you can do to send a one-way message to people, and on the website if you log in there is a non-functional "mail" tab right now
vocal shard
exploits ? Great
rough pulsar
Well, it's not exactly an 'exploit'.
More of an undocumented feature with no UI.
vocal shard
why are they putting features like this without any informations on them ?
median lake
Do you know how to do it?
lilac swan
Because said features are not done yet?
vocal shard
not done yet but you can still use them ?
lilac swan
You're not supposed to, but technically yes
rough pulsar
Use is a very loose term, but yes.
We're talking, sending specific requests to the API in the right places, correctly.
median lake
Oh, is it like the functionality is added, but people have a modified client or something in some way to actually make it visible?
rough pulsar
If it's a case of they can just select a user and press a key in vrchat itself, then yeah that sounds like a modified client.
vocal shard
you are not supposed to ? but if you know what you are doing you can still use it
if we go back like 5-6 months ago, that wouldnt be possible, because they didnt make that feature yet
so why make it "usable" if it's not even done and ready to be a full release ?
rough pulsar
As most inputs are documented (like ctrl+\ to locally change to a robot to be able to switch out of a problem avatar)
lilac swan
Because the devs actually need to be able to test it themselves, most likely? 🤔
vocal shard
don't they have a test server ?
rough pulsar
I imagine they do
I hope they do
I pray to a bucket of fish heads that they do and they're not doing everything in production
vocal shard
i hope too
median lake
Is there a full list of these undocumented keybinds etc?
vocal shard
because this is getting a bit scary if they test stuff live
rough pulsar
Holding shift while starting vrchat and going to the input tab will show most keybinds, otherwise they should actually be documented on the site.
Also, for something like a messaging system, it'd make sense to get the backend all up and running first, then prepare the UI for the launch. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
vocal shard
yup exactly
don't get me wrong, i'm quite happy about that message system
can be useful
but it's a bit annoying to get teased with that and finding out that they are just bad at hiding new planned features
rough pulsar
Very useful. Being able to send a quick "I'm coming on in 5, having toast first" to a friend before I've even warmed up my vive is great.
Or if you suddenly have to go afk and being able to explain why.
vocal shard
mute people will be able to communicate now too
safe prism
some uh.. less than official api docs has some info on it owo
vocal shard
i'm actually curious to see how that works
rough pulsar
Just imagine it
A world full of desktop mutes
silent
unmoving
communicating
😱
dire palm
head nodding
lilac swan
@topaz sapphire Please do not mass-post the same message in several channels, especially in literally all of the international ones 😔
topaz sapphire
Alright I apologize.
I just wanted to be supportive.
Since some people can't speak english.
I won't do it again, no worries.
vocal shard
if a dude is playing only on desktop, doesnt have any animation, is using the default models and doesnt speak at all
does it make a difference if i block him or not ?
karmic talon
Hmmm
vocal shard
since he is basically just a rock in a corner
karmic talon
A moving rock
vocal shard
a moving rock that can be annoying if he take stuff from me or stay in front of my face for no reason
and give some more useless draw calls
wary cave
I go on vrchat and use avatars i find but im too shy for using a muc
Mic
And i dont hav vr gear either. So i just use laptop
twin jacinth
If you find him annoying you can ask him to not do what he is doing and give him a warning that if he continues you will block him
Give's him a chance at least if he is not doing it to be rude
azure wren
Thats why ppl usually blocks me 
twin jacinth
Music emotes and stuff can be extremely annoying so i understand why they do it
I also do it myself, loud music = big no
twin jacinth
Without sound it shouldn't be a problem but people might associate it with person's that is generally annoying (Loud music+dancing, emotes that is cancer etc)
I don't ask people that play loud music as i find it easier to mute them, if they come up to me and look at me i unmute to see if they want to say something.
reason for insta mute is that it's many people who do it and i just can't be bothered to ask the person when it comes to loud sounds/cancer emotes (Block/Mute)
fading owl
Yeah but theres also people you go up to, they immediately go "Nope, im blocking you"
quiet prawn
Well, fuck those people then. They aren't worth it. 
vocal shard
speaking of that
what volume do you guys usually use? Like, i wouldn't want it to be too quiet, but i don't want it to be ear raping loud either.
max volume and i boost it in audacity
earrape or nothing
ew
ruby needle
svelsien
vocal shard
also it depend on the source sound tho
usually aorund 0.4 - 0.6 is pretty good
aight
winged quartz
@ruby needle
ruby needle
put it in audacity or something and normalize it (and do that for every sound file in the future) then your values will not be all over the place
@winged quartz
winged quartz
Hai x3
ruby needle
winged quartz
how are ya?
🔥
ruby needle
yes!
urban canopy
hey
somebody can help me with custom avatars how many hours i need on my acount to use one
vale palm
vocal shard
Hey, Wondering if anyone could tell me how long I need to use the VRChat app to be able to upload my custom avatars, I've been using it for over 24 hours now but still don't know how long it should be taking.
civic vine
@vocal shard You should aim for about 30 headpats given and received.
it's less to do with time, more to do with being an active community member.
civic vine
make friends, visit places, do things.
tight galleon
:3
azure wren
still lark
Just be a legacy user, easy peasy.
distant charm
Oh hey yui
strange bramble
Does anyone know How long you have to be on Vrchat before you can start uploading your own avatars?
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
strange bramble
Thankyou ♥
winged quartz
I took around 10 hours or so in my third account
and around 6 in my second one
my friend got it after staying with me during 2 hours
and it wasn't even in public lobbies
So yeah
...oh, just noticed the topic is dead tho
vocal shard
winged quartz
no anime
vocal shard
You finished JoJo already?
vocal shard
Oh boy, youre in for a treat
winged quartz
Can't wait
vocal shard
Part 6 is coming
winged quartz
part 9 when tho
vocal shard
The heck do I know?
winged quartz
I really want to see them going back to the old art style tho
I just fucking loved it
the part 4 has an... Idk
such a regular anime artstyle
vocal shard
Modern look...
winged quartz
no modern allowed
vocal shard
But why though (O_0)?
winged quartz
meh, didn't like it
vocal shard
Too bland for your tastes?
vocal shard
Also #vrchat-general-1 or #general-media before we get ruubicked
winged quartz
no ruubick please
vocal shard
So was the manga
winged quartz
also we're making the chat alive again don't worry
Yeah, true
I'm gonna read the manga later on as well
vocal shard
It looked very unque compared to the rest of the mangas at it's time, and now it's a whole artstyle of it's own...
brave oasis
If anyone here knows about rigging, I need some help.
ruby needle
ask you question in #avatar-rigging
brave oasis
@ruby needle Thanks buddy; I didn't even see that
vocal shard
why doesnt calling mods do anything?
there is some beta male crashing every guy talking to this girl in a lobby
polar jasper
It does work, but they could be busy with other things.
polar jasper
For now, just record it and sent a report on it with the video
polar jasper
ivory folio
what's his name? 👀
brave oasis
@vocal shard Have you tried reeeing at the guy?
vocal shard
i reee at everyone dont worry dad
But did you do the REEE and the Reee and the REEE @vocal shard ???
calm jay
Make America masculine again.
Help the beta males rise from the drudgeries of self-humiliation.
mental tusk
“What do you do when people yoink your model.” an informative comprehensive guide by BiCWhiteout.
Stage 1 of the guide, don’t become upset.
It sucks to see your work go down the drain. And or money for those who commission models. But getting aggressive will not fix the issue. If anything it’ll get you blocked and your model asset ripped.
Step 2
Find out their username.
The mods are well capable of pulling blueprint ids to match with an account. Model been stolen. They will know so cap their username.
Final step.
Report it at the moderation report email. This will help the mods deal with it in accordance to its severity and priority.
Extra.
If you find this happens often but can’t get their names or their quick to block don’t worry. If you are a GeForce user you can enable replay on shadow play that will take the last 10 minutes of play. So if it happens you have something to work with. Good luck friends
BiC
calm jay
OBS is a wonderful program. Use it often.
ruby needle
for prove recording the programs by AMD/NVIDEA are proapbly the better choice
like shadowplay and amd's equivalent with a simple hotkey buffer recording
but else yes
OBS Studio is a wonderfull programm
mental tusk
For those of us with low tier cpus so they don’t support the rendering of obs recording and play without frames sacrificed
ruby needle
well gpu rendering is also a thing but it will still impact more then NVIDEAS/AMD's thing
calm jay
The problem with using AMD's ReLive software is that it requires a non-low-end gpu in order to use.
It requires a mid-range card at least.
mental tusk
How to stop Ubisoft from messaging you
ruby needle
not that this game is really for low end hardware
mental tusk
Step one. Don’t rip assets from their game they claimed couldn’t be ripped
calm jay
@ruby needle that point did occur to me, but if someone is asking, I'm assuming they somehow found a way to make it work?
ruby needle
😄
calm jay
But yeah I am curious about that... if someone is having difficulty using OBS due to framerate issues, why or how are they even capable of running VR in the first place?
mental tusk
Vrchat single core render is crippling to my cpu
ruby needle
encoding can be taxing that is definitely not a blame even for higher end stuff depending on your encoding / decoding and composing
if someone just uses it with default settings which yould be x264 CPU encoding it makes a lot of sense to drop performance
fleet hedge
A friend of mine is uploading their avatar for the first time. She got a message that popped up sayin (Dowload faq) (Vrchat Discord) and (ok). She clicked on all of them but still cant upload avatars. Is she able to? Told me its her Vrchat account
ruby needle
did she receive the upload permissions allready?
fleet hedge
She didnt
ruby needle
then she gotta get them first 😄
she has to just play the game normally and will at some point receive a ingame message and email
then she can upload
fleet hedge
oh
midnight idol
Really random question but is it against the terms of service to have and use more than one account?
lilac swan
Not that I'm aware of, no, assuming none of them are banned.
turbid agate
oh man, this loading bug when switching worlds just seem to keep happening to me
where it loads then unloads, even with cache and all things i can think of considered
sucks having to restart every 3-4 worlds
formal anvil
Can anyone connect with a steam acc
ruby needle
there is currently issues
ruby needle
you might wanna take this moment to switch to a full vrchat account
you can never do that early enogh
formal anvil
Ya
ruby needle
steam accounts are only guest accounts
formal anvil
True
inner nimbus
Can I get someone to help me setting up my oculus?
ruby needle
dont spam the same message across multiple channels
inner nimbus
@ruby needle well it’s urgent
inner nimbus
Well it’s vrchat I assume people have vr here
inner nimbus
Sorry could u help me?
ruby needle
no
inner nimbus
Damn
formal anvil
@inner nimbus try some setup vids on yt
inner nimbus
@formal anvil I did but there’s something wrong, my sensors won’t connect and I tried everything online but it won’t work
vocal shard
if you tried everything online and it's still not working then your rift is fucked and you need to change it
formal anvil
Someone here must use oculus
ruby needle
did you try your sensor on the USB 2.0 ports of you pc?
inner nimbus
Yes
formal anvil
I mean my headsets shit but this is sorta why I went with the WMR
No external sensors
vapid cave
How do I get rid of this stupid message in VRChat SDK? I've had it for 2 weeks now
polar jasper
Which message?
vocal shard
you need to play more to be allowed to upload
vapid cave
Play more in the SDK or play more in VRChat?
lilac swan
Game client
vapid cave
And how does it count the time that I'm in it?
vocal shard
it doesnt
ruby needle
^
vocal shard
since it's not time based
ruby needle
hey
lilac swan
Check the pins in this channel for more info about how it works
vapid cave
Or better wording, how does it count my activity in it
ruby needle
thats my job
its also not activity time based
no one knows its true factors
thats the point of it
vapid cave
Thats dumb lmao
ruby needle
no
vapid cave
So its like heres a service that you cant use until whenever we feel like letting you use it which can be anywhere between a day to a year?
ruby needle
no
there is a algorythm
but its not know
cus if it would be it could be easily exploited
vapid cave
Well if people are obviously making avatars to crash stuff then wouldnt it be easier to just have a limit on the stuff you can put on avatars?
lilac swan
Just like the links say in the pin I just mentioned, being social with friends does speed things up getting uploading privileges.
vocal shard
🤔
lilac swan
Are you taking pictures with the photo camera?
signal wren
yes
lilac swan
They should be saving in the default windows pictures folder, named VRchat. If they're not then something must be wrong.
Try doing the steps in #vrchat-support
I know of very few people that had that issue in the past
Unsure of the fix
polar jasper
There is a bug that happens sometimes where the camera doesn't take pictures, not sure if there is a in game fix. But restarting will fix it for sure
vocal shard
Does it make the sound of taking pictures and then it doesn't download said pictures or what?
lilac swan
You could also try emailing "support@vrchat.com"
polar jasper
It doesn't "download" though. It is saved directly to the folder
signal wren
It takes the pic and makes the sound
but the folder is empty
and wait 5 weeks for a reply?
polar jasper
Are you on Windows 10 by any chance?
polar jasper
On a Microsoft account or local account?
signal wren
local
vocal shard
ain't you a ray of sunshine
lilac swan
If you don't want to use the available resources for help, that's on you
signal wren
I guess thats on me
polar jasper
Check folder permissions then
signal wren
oooof
vocal shard
@vocal shard oh c'mon now dude xD
Huh ?
Calling the depression survior a ray of sunshine? 👏 👏
Good for you😄
depression survivor ?
YES
vocal shard
Oh btw Hiya Fire 👋 very long time no talk!
vocal shard
That's what I expected, now then continue with the topic
signal wren
I just re-started
and still nothing
Could it be because I have steam on a diffrent hard drive?
My vrchat folder is on my C drive
vocal shard
I never sent you a friend request though (O_0)
signal wren
no no I did it on accident. I was trying to figure out who you were so I was trying to see if their was pass messages.
I look threw the whole pc and it's like the pic's don't exist?
vocal shard
To make it as simple as possible I'm that one newbie that talked about depression and how it can easly be overcome for some people, while for others it can be super hard
vocal shard
And after that you said you were very open about things
But it seems I beat you in that regard
THE PILL HAS ARRIVED!!! I REPEAT!!! THE PILL HAS ARRIVED
plain ridge
Just had the best idea for a horror map. A bunch of puzzles and jump maps of increasing difficulty in dark rooms with just low horror music, absolutely no monsters or jump scares for about 10 minutes. Then you come across a door. A little bedroom. You get into the bed and the lights slowly fade. Then the door opens. Howard the alien steps out. You can't move. Howard dances around the bed until the screen fades to black. Fin.
ruby needle
5/7
vocal shard
I'll give it a 3 out of
latent thicket
6/7
dusky marlin
hey what's up with the new "public" or "private" setting on avatars?
ruby needle
"new"
thats been in for a few months
its to allow it to be put on pedestrals or not
dusky marlin
oh. well I havent played in a while so eh
willow knot
has anyone ever gotten the "unauthorized" error?
i can't log into an account i just made because it's saying "unauthorized" but i confirmed the email and it should be fine to log in with
willow knot
it let me log in there fine just now
vocal shard
have you verified your email?
willow knot
yeah, i'm not sure what else is wrong
rough pulsar
I'm wondering if there's a resend verification email link on this page for you @willow knot
https://vrchat.com/home/profile
My guess is because on mine I have a email verified notice so you might have something else.
rough pulsar
Hm, have a read in #vrchat-support and try some stuff there. See if that helps at all.
willow knot
lemme try logging in one more time then i'll try some stuff there and let you know, thanks!
the other account i made was unauthorized too and both are verified
dusky marlin
How do I turn off an emote? like with the shift+f key how do I undo that
also music that was part of an avatar refuses to play..
vocal shard
you can't
dusky marlin
...whytho
vocal shard
i mean the emote part
dusky marlin
I assume so?
It's an emote. when the emote is used, the music is supposed to play
but I hear nothing
vocal shard
did you make it active in the animation?
vocal shard
there are quite a few video tutorials floating around
basically you have to go into the animation edit, add property,set audio as active
dusky marlin
so the emote is with f7
I assume that's under idle>emote right
so which would be the f7 emote..
dusky marlin
oh
vocal shard
emote are things like the clap/dance/dab emote
dusky marlin
okay so how do I find gestures?
dusky marlin
I cant find the animation is the biggest problem..
AHA
found where the audio is on the model.
that's a start
rip. I think that audio update a while back broke it.
wait. other people can hear it, I cant.
vocal shard
👀
tacit plank
Same here, uploading takes a while, even though my world is only 15MB
It should take 240ms at full speed
But it takes about 30 seconds to a minute.
Also, if they doubled the speed, they would only have half the concurrent uploads at a time, in theory anyways
I guess this gives them a weak defense against DDOS attacks, but I really miss the faster upload speed of earlier this year
ruby needle
limiting max bandwith to individual clients is totally normal for many things 
and makes a lot of sense
zinc solar
When we want to make our Discord official how does that process go? We have over 500 members but no clue how I missed check our Disclosed
Discord
We got the whole form and everything but is there any way the Discord admin will notify us?
tacit plank
I will need examples, Paul
vocal shard
Quick question, will uninstalling and reinstalling VR remove all of my saved avatars on it?
tacit plank
No, those are tied to your account
Just like how closing your browser doesn't delete your twitter followers
vocal shard
Ok good. Thanks
tacit plank
You're welcome, reinstalling VRChat is kind of common, lol
Hell, mine removed itself at some point. It was still installed by my Steam stopped recognizing it, and the output log was like 70kb of null characters, my whole system died too. It was strange
vocal shard
Oh rip
twin jacinth
When i change my avatar the one i previously used stays so i can change to it anytime even tho i'm on a steam account
is this normal?
elder belfry
how do i put clothes on my avatar
hasty kettle
I need help uploading my avatar
tacit plank
There are many tutorials for this on Youtube
hasty kettle
Yeah but i cant be asked to watch and do something at the same time
tacit plank
Shortest avatar uploading tut is like 4 minutes
hasty kettle
Show me
tacit plank
Then watch all of it, and upload it afterwards
hasty kettle
Ok
tacit plank
I can't find it atm, but I found a 5 minute one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khCALzx24fA
It's outdated though, don't install mmd_tools, I think it's bundled with the CATS plugin now
ruby needle
yes it is
can still install it separately if you want something out of it
or turn your character the other way around
into a mmd
like i did
elder belfry
how do i put clothing on my avatar
lethal meteor
Gotta do it in blender
hasty kettle
So how comes when i try to upload the character it clicks on my avatar rather than saying that i can upload it?
Can someone explain?
vestal sleet
Hey does anyone here use Kinect 360 for full body tracking, if so what adapter do you use ? Please ping me
ocean bramble
@vestal sleet You should ask that in #full-body-tracking
hasty kettle
So can someone explain that to me?
cold talon
It clicks?
normal knoll
Guys anybody have cam shake or lcd shader?
vocal shard
That what you said in your question earlier. You said it doesn't upload, but clicks
lcd shader 
hasty kettle
Yeah
When i upload it does that windows noise it dont show that character upload thing it just makes the outline on my avatar and it shows the height and all of those
candid kiln
Toga or Master Of Lolis xD
vocal shard
Is it normal that I'm able to upload Custom Avatars after only playing 3 hours on my official VRChat account?
I thought it was gonna be 20 hours but its not that much after all
hasty kettle
Yeah i just left mine overnight
cold talon
That means your one of the special cases 
hasty kettle
ikr
pine berry
Trying to make a vrchat account, already verified the email but when i try log in it tells me to verify email and date of birth. After doing that i get ERROR could not verify account - "email address already in use." ????
tacit plank
Since recently I have to talk loudly for VRChat to pick up my mic, is there any way to adjust this?
torn iron
so any one have problems downloading big map that you get stuck at say 38% then it get stuck then just logs you out of vr chat and then tries again to load the map and get stuck at another random % any one know a fix for this ? only happens with big maps for me ?
tacit plank
I just turned my mic up by 4 times
weary cypress
Ingame adjust your mic output?
tacit plank
Not ingame, the VRChat mic icon didn't light up, so I had to increase it on Windows
calm jay
Check for Windows Updates. Sometimes it's a driver issue.
And not only Windows update, but also Nvidia update too, if you have a green Gpu
tacit plank
It suddenly stopped working without me updating anything, I haven't updated my windows or any drivers since around 2014
calm jay
How old is the headset?
calm jay
do you have win 10?
tacit plank
Win 7
calm jay
Did your microphone come with it's own driver?
tacit plank
I don't think so
calm jay
do something for me real quick.
go to control panel -> then search for "find and fix audio recording problems"
see if that helps.
if not, then under control panel search for "manage audio devices" -> search for your microphone, right click, then properties, then check to see that
A) Your "levels" are high enough.
B) Your "Boost" is set to +10 or +20.
tacit plank
Windows automatic error fixing never works for me
calm jay
Did ya try it anyway?
tacit plank
I fixed the issue by upping the volume from 9 to 40 on the mic, but if it happens again then I won't be able to fix it as it doesn't go past 100.
The +DB boost option doesn't appear on most of my devices for some reason
calm jay
That always depends on what kind of driver is managing the device.
If you have a weak signal, it could be the wire itself. Laws of physics don't care how much you paid for a microphone. Sometimes shit breaks quickly. You'd be surprised how many new lamborghini's end up in a mechanic shop less than a month on the road.
I'd try running that auto check, and also fiddling with the cord. Maybe look into a driver manager like driver booster or something. See if there isn't a better driver for your system.
It sounds like either one of those issues is the main problem. It could also still be a graphics driver problem too.
USB is routed through southbridge same as graphics, and both of those elements communicate with each other. One is bound to make the other unhappy.
vocal shard
welp
got a new crash
dude zoomed our screen
then crashed the whole world
no crash report
no errors
vrchat just straight up closing
calm jay
@tacit plank You also might consider finding a free equalizer, and using that as a workaround.
fading owl
@vocal shard well... ive never gotten a crash report before
my game just ends up in a neverending loop of what i heard before i crashed
tacit plank
It's wired, and the volume seems pretty consistent. It might be a loose connection though, my Vive USB had that issue recently. My two headsets for sound did too, but they broke since then anyways.
And that is interesting
vocal shard
It depends. It would need to be a pretty beefy laptop to get decent performance
wary cave
Kinda newest windows 10 lenovo
grand thistle
some laptops with a 1050 ti can handel vr but for sure not vrchat
i say you need one with a 1060 maybe a 1070 and that's a lot
they aren't cheap
wary cave
What is ti?
grand thistle
the ti is the best version of the gtx 1050
it has 4gb vram and the normal 1050 only 2
vocal shard
Or something like a rx480 or better. Don't count out team amd :p
grand thistle
amd in a laptop is hard to get vr capable
grand thistle
but they are the cheapest in a laptop that you wan't to use for vr just depends on how much monney you have
if you wan't vrchat mosty to be played on the laptop you should get a 1060 or 1070 and those are not cheap
vocal shard
Also got to take in account that laptop GPUs are often mobile variants of their dedicated counterpart. I assume they may run at lower clock speed.
vocal shard
anyone a fan of the new mmd avatars stage?
formal anvil
@wary cave I'm running vr on a I5-7200U GTX 1050M Laptop
Performance... is pretty low about 40 fps on your own in a small room
about 10 fps in a populated room such as The Great Pug
and 20 fps no matter what map when your in rooms with about 7 other people
You could lower the resolution down but that only helps with about 5 fps... So I'd highly suggest getting a desktop as soon as possible
I've ordered myself a I5-8400 GTX 1060 16gb DRR4 pc :3
So my experience should be smoother when it arrives
vocal shard
hello
formal anvil
Heyo
vocal shard
do you know any type of titanfall avatar worlds?
formal anvil
Not sure, Have you tried searching for any in-game?
vocal shard
yes
1060 is pretty bad if you're planning to use vr
i have 1060 6gb variant and i can't get proper performance with vr
but many worlds are called really diffrent of theyr purpose
formal anvil
@vocal shard I'm sure my performance will be smoother.. it's a 6 core cpu.. I don't really mind the quality
As long as my frames are above 50 then I'll be happy
@vocal shard Sorry, I don't know any that contain any Titanfall models.. Goodluck finding one!
vocal shard
oh well thanks for the help
formal anvil
^-^
vocal shard
yeah lol
median basalt
@vocal shard a 1060 should be fine for this game though
vocal shard
i have a 4460 it's probably bottlenecking it
median basalt
It's more than likely your CPU
GPU is barely used in this game unless you run into a guy or a world with very GPU-heavy shaders
median basalt
CPU is a heavy bottleneck in this game. I feel you
I had a GTX 970 but still got only 15 FPS thanks to my old CPU
Now I upgraded and I'm always at 45
formal anvil
My laptop cpu is a goddamn U model..
median basalt
Oculus can't do anything between 45 and 90 FPS
formal anvil
Lol
vocal shard
what are those red avatars?
i keep seeing them in my game
those red transparent humanoid ones
formal anvil
KNUCKLES!?!?!?!
vocal shard
nono
formal anvil
XD I'm kidding :3
formal anvil
Those days are over :3
still lark
They're broken/delete avatars
vocal shard
i still use knuckles XD
still lark
But that's all Intel
formal anvil
Unless your cpu was the I5 8th gen
I'm not a big fan of amd
Only because I don't know the parts XD
vocal shard
i hear amd is like having a grill in your cpu lmao
ruby needle
since the ryzens AMD is back with some good stuff.
its not always i7>i5>i3 , not even within the same gen
if the i7 clock lower then the i5 an the game cant make use of the more threads anyway then the i5 is gonna kill it
Especially the new i5's which are native 6 cores
i5's are what you should aim for gaming machines
formal anvil
I should be set
ruby needle
not the 8400
formal anvil
Sadly didn't have the extra tad of money ;-;
median basalt
@vocal shard do you have a particle limiter on?
ruby needle
the 8400's clock is shit
formal anvil
I know
vocal shard
whats that?
formal anvil
2.8Ghz
median basalt
Red avatar ghosts means there was an error loading the avatar. This could indicate that the server was having issues at the moment of upload.
formal anvil
I cri
median basalt
If you don't know what the particle limiter is, you probably don't have it turned on. It's in #particle-limiter-share-settings
It's an optional feature that allows you to limit particles on people's avatars, in a misguided attempt to stop crashers.
ruby needle
the 8400 is definitely a very poor choice
formal anvil
I'mma try OC to 3.8 Ghz
median basalt
If you set the particle limit too low, avatars might not load at all
ruby needle
the 8400 is not for oc ing
formal anvil
Seeing that it's turbo is 4.0
still lark
@median basalt "load"?
vocal shard
yeah actually i just found out the reason lol
my hdd had no space left
no wonder almost all of them weren't loading
still lark
Why would limiting particles not make the avatar load
vocal shard
because the limiter is fucked ?
if you put some values to 0
you'll get red avatars
vocal shard
it honestly doesnt even surprise me
a value too high will also fuck up
and if you put a comma it can also fuck up
median basalt
Yeah, it's a bug
The model stays T-posed at 0,0,0
The real model that is
I can only assume that the complex structure of a player object also includes particles somewhere, and the lack of those makes stuff break.
The player object is actually super complex and somewhat horrifying
still lark
Some sanity checking is in order
tacit plank
Why did the devs make it easier to steal an avatar?
vocal shard
how do people even steal avatars? program?
i've seen people steal my avatar right it front of me
tacit plank
Oh, that works differently
tacit plank
The thing that I just deleted insures that the avatar stealer can use the model even if the creator deletes it
My dog could probably steal an avatar at this difficulty
vocal shard
tell me how
i wanna get this avatar
seriously, i always laugh my ass off when i see this avatar
i see a lot using them but i can't find it online
tacit plank
I hate knuckles
vocal shard
they use modified clients to steal avatars
they can just take any of your avatars and put them in their list
you can upload something to the blueprint ID to replace it
the other way to steal an avatar and it's a bit harder and more rare is when they yoink the whole unity asset
so they can jsut do whatever they want with your model
ivory folio
pretty sure most of the clients now make a copy of the avatar so replacing/deleting it won't do anything
fiery moth
2.8ghz 
ruby needle
it never hurts to do it tho @ivory folio
south oyster
is the SAO Redux world still around? 
proper stump
anyone else have some guy "FuzzyDays" going around claiming to be "Friends with staff"
ruby burrow
I've been wondering. When uploading an avatar, what does the "Private / Public" setting even do?
vocal shard
Oh boy