sick path
i only know the usd
#vrchat-general-2
inner cape
69$
inner cape
thorny totem
@gusty adder come on show us you stick to your words :)
gusty adder
Jesus fuck this cunt is annoying
also I'm literally messaging him so I can do it
lol
Grow the fuck up and stop being a child
thorny totem
oh ok that's cool then ;)
inner cape
Whom are you talking to? 
thorny totem
to me
gusty adder
some annoying fuck who can't get his head out of his ass
thorny totem
as long as you do it you can call me whatever you want ;)
gusty adder
actually on that note
given I have betterDiscord and the tweak that deletes the blocked message popup
I'm just gonna block you altogether, you're an annoying cunt
thorny totem
i'm fine with that :)
modern sand
Insulting isn't allowed, he's gonna go cool down somewhere
inner cape
LOL
thorny totem
yeah that's ok i pushed him on that one :D
inner cape
That was fun
thorny totem
but he better stick to his word though, no free namecalling ^^
inner cape
I'm calling it he's gonna pretend to be all modest but still gonna charge proper fees after some time of helping people for free
inner cape
Time to make alts
thorny totem
lol
thorny totem
never tested, but it should be transparent for your system, you need a high speed link though thunderbolt at least?
usb-c should do
ok :) you know what an USB is?
vocal shard
why not just buy a decent pc
ruby needle
if you need a external gpu your cpu propably also wont be great 
thorny totem
ok there is some bandwidth limit to the USB2 connection, external graphics need a lot of it, USB type C and thunderbolt port (usb like) have a higher bandwidth @brave oasis
vocal shard
using an external gpu is wasting 20% of your money spent on that gpu cos of you will not be able to maximize the full capacity of that gpu
thorny totem
yes true
ruby needle
bandwith is just one of the factors
for vr inparticular the latency is really REALLY bad
vr is extremely latency affected
waht i7?
thorny totem
with thunderbolt seems the latency is not a big issue
ruby needle
and i7 is not an i7
each model is different
especially for mobile
there is i7's that are twice as bad as current gen pentium / i3's
** looking at you 2 core mobile i7's **
yes
vocal shard
then just buy a gpu gtx1060 will be decent enough and install it to your motherboard
ruby needle
that is not how that works tho
its not a "pc"
you cant just plug things in
the best you can do most likely is upgrade ram 😛
vocal shard
sell that thing and go buy a desktop instead i guess is the better option out there
thorny totem
if you have USB-C /Thunderbolt it shouldn't be an issue,
i mean according to the feedback i saw on Oculus reddit
yes basically
but costly solution, no doubt
ruby needle
it wont be worth
for vrchat especially
these things are not build for that
i can only recommed to build a normal PC
and not waste money trying to upgrade that steam thing
thorny totem
I'm sure he'll use it for VR games in general too
inner cape
I installed my 1090 on the power supply
thorny totem
:D sneaky you
inner cape
thorny totem
the next best solution would be, buy a $1500 PC with a 1060/1070? and install steamOS on it
thorny totem
hello world
the first shader that make Discord crash, we're doomed
take your logs or a screenshot/video and send them an email #moderation-reports
!outputlog
doh
floral aspen
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
floral aspen
np
dawn scroll
How do I set up steam vr with my oculus
floral aspen
run the steam vr setup
fiery moth
My i7 can run VRChat just fine, hahaYES
dawn scroll
It keeps telling me my headset isn't on or something when It clearly is as I can see all the oculus home stuff through it
floral aspen
noice Luna
dawn scroll
And when I click reboot headset it says I have a vive for some reason?
dawn scroll
Any advice?
Steam VR Doesn't detect my headset when I try and set it up, and then when I click reboot it thinks I have a vive
Oculus
thorny totem
close steam then reboot the oculus services or reboot your pc
dawn scroll
Ok I fixed it but now vrchat says could not login unauthorized whenever I try and log in
brave oasis
I do not know about that my brudah. Anyone else have help?
thorny totem
try to change your password
vocal shard
ASCENSION
cold talon
Manchestor?
pearl bloom
i have played for over 24 hours and i still cannot use the vrchat sdk?
north axle
Yeah, you need to spend about 40+ hours.
pearl bloom
nice
ruby needle
no
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
north axle
To prevent trolls from uploading trash.
floral aspen
so trolls can't just make a new account every time they get banned
fiery moth
20-40 hours is the average, but some get the ability to way sooner
dark narwhal
too many alt account were probably being made
pearl bloom
yeah thats very epic
vocal shard
Has anyone actually noticed a decrease in crashing since that was implemented though?
umbral reef
Doki id guess it more ahd to do with people who got banned being able to instantly make a new trolling avatar on a new account and be on there merry way
vocal shard
I guess
umbral reef
The complains in here died down atleast
And most people still do not know how to report properly what does not help at all so...
dark narwhal
yeah took long enough
vocal shard
they need to put it on the steam page
but unfortunately people dont even read that sometimes
floral aspen
we'd still get a bunch of people asking because people don't read
vocal shard
^
we arent their personal tech support, vrchat doesnt have one.
but the discord is for the users
floral aspen
Need a pop up message the first time you log in to VRChat with the explanation for why you can't upload avatars yet
umbral reef
Wait this isnt the tech support discord?
vocal shard
not for asking help 24/7
why would it have intros
if it were
two channels for text
floral aspen
Also need to put it in the default home and the hub
umbral reef
You introduce yourself to the tech support and then 3 channels to spam your question in
How is this not tech support discord for VRC 👀
vocal shard
and in the help videos world
also in the tutorial
even tho i now get about 2000 ping in home alone
yeet
floral aspen
oof
vocal shard
sadly trolls just resort to hacking and stealing avatars
so its arguably not worth it
for no reason fyi
floral aspen
yeah playing a game with 2000 ping is not good
vocal shard
you could argue its more beneficial to let new players upload stuff to get hooked easier
its a free game
than it is to worry about the trolls who end up resorting to hacks
like i would understand if it was an AAA game that costs 60$ people would hack
Maybe a simple character creator would be better for new players
but this is a free game
what is there to hack
avatar stealing pretty much it
fucking lazy people
learn makehuman
its not about being lazy
it is?
its about getting contraband and bypassing upload limits usually
ruby needle
you know why people hack? because they have fund ruining others fun
vocal shard
^
ruby needle
so especially in free games it is bad
ruby needle
because they can just make accounts
vocal shard
there is for new accounts
i honestly think the upload limit is more harmful to legit noobs than it saved the game in the long run
my acc is from late 2017
as it should be
anyone who came into vrchat from the knuckles boom actively helped ruin the game
umbral reef
If they ever fix the stealing stuff or make it less easy to do its worth i
Now its a trade off
Crashing and bad avatars V avatar stealing
vocal shard
also
My original account is from 2017.. but i didn't know you could change your username, so i went through 2 more. Lol
why is the system allowing more than one user to use a private avatar id
which is literally how avatar stealing goes
But that's how pedestals work right?
a PRIVATE avatar id
Oh whai, yeah. Lol
Dumb..
That makes sense.
the system should only let the uploader use the avatar id
but no it lets any random script kiddie use it
just because modded client
they access the console and boom
goes your hard work
cache ripping was easier for them because they didnt have to risk with dealing with the vrchat servers
but since that road got blocked they swapped to stealing ids
It really sucks when they steal avatars
why do you think uploading a cube takes away their avatar too?
they use the id
ivory folio
you can still download avatar files
dark narwhal
i might just start being the hacker police and report all the hackers i see now for fun
ivory folio
from the api
umbral reef
Doki you should have been doing that anyway
vocal shard
You know how Pokémon have different eye textures for different expressions. How do I use that for blinking.
thats called script kiddie-ing
umbral reef
Imo anyone who doesn not report hacking or cunts they see is also part of the problem within VRC
dark narwhal
yeah but i dont have recording software installed yet
umbral reef
You often dont need to
vocal shard
just report them and add your output log
umbral reef
an output log together with an photo or just the name is enough
floral aspen
most of the time the log is all you need
dark narwhal
then again wats the point people just unban themselves
umbral reef
If they are racist and ect then its harder or just less efficient
vocal shard
they get removed for it too doki
if they are caught ban evading
How would they even get caught though
umbral reef
And the game likes to shotgun for ban evading
Aka why sharing an account for uploading is bad
dark narwhal
yeah some times but some can even get passed ban evasion
umbral reef
@vocal shard Its not like you swap out your whole pc~
And we are still talking about smaller groups
vocal shard
You can change your IPs
umbral reef
Not the large group of users who cant
Since when is an ip part of ya pc-
Hardware bans are a thing and most users are to retarded to go around them
dark narwhal
i found a bunch of vsync users in a public presentation room and i was just listening to them telling each other how many times they had evaded ban that week
vocal shard
You gonna report them?
Anyway. I need some help here
I’m trying to make blinking right. And the model has one of those multi eye textures
I’m trying to figure out how to use em
limpid river
please use the correct channel for the questions
marsh oyster
Hello everyone. New here. How’s it going?
vocal shard
Welcome. It's going good. You?
marsh oyster
Be better once I get out of work but can’t complain to much.
mint fable
every now and then i get blocked because somebody else does something dumb, and I happen to be standing in that general direction :/
why isn't there an avatar-block people can do that doesn't mute me too
limpid river
there is but blocking all non firends is faster
mint fable
no, they block specific person, which completely removes their avatar, name tag and voice
ruby needle
thats one thing that is highly needet aswell as a "whitelist"
as in if you use default block you can whitelist people to still work without having to friend them
cus else its useless as it totally ruins the experience if you cant make the people you talk to visbile with either friending them or globally unblocking (which lags teh game)
mint fable
I just want to not get blocked by randoms then be unable to get them to unblock me
limpid river
ah now i get you
ruby needle
who knows
limpid river
well it happens but there are enoungh people to just meet others
vocal shard
Oh yeah
mint fable
it's really annoying
vocal shard
People vote kick me out of a world because of playing music with a dubstep gun.
I understand but oml.
limpid river
understandable
vocal shard
Yeah
mint fable
yeah, but I don't do stuff like that, other people do, and I happen to be near them
vocal shard
but they kick me before they ask
People who do abuse the dubstep gun as in crashing are just idiots.
I mean, I wanna have a crash gun, but only to crash annoying people.
limpid river
i do that as well i have to many experiance with discussion about that with trolls so now if someone spams sounds i just vote to kick them
limpid river
@vocal shard no you dont want a crash gun. you do not have the right to desice who is annoying. and it could lead to you getting banned
dark narwhal
i dont want a crash gun i want a GET THE **** OUT MY LOBBY IM PLAING VRCHAT gun
for scientific purposes of course
quiet prawn
You know, talking about wanting to intentionally crash other people in the official VRChat Discord really doesn't strike me as a very intelligent thing to do.
lilac swan
As long they don't complain afterwards 🤷
thorny totem
@vocal shard what is your ingame name again, i'll add you to the special list of immune people no block or kick will ever get you
tacit plank
"My lobby" You have the ability to kick people from the instances that you create, you don't need a gun to keep people out
dark narwhal
why kick when u can fire
vocal shard
not for grief you idiot.
Revenge crashing is just as bad
plus i cant make or get someone to make a crash gun
dark narwhal
Never seek revenge always be the first to strike- Ghandi
tacit plank
It's easy
Do literally anything you'd usually do, but add a few zeros in any of the input fields. It's Unity, making something which doesn't crash anyone is honestly harder
dark narwhal
true''
lilac swan
Anyone who genuinely wants to combat those who use crash particles should send in properly made reports so those users can have action taken against them. Revenge crashing doesn't solve anything and only makes you most likely to be banned yourself.
tacit plank
Now, if you don't want yourself to crash too, you'll need to do it slightly differently, but I don't want to tell what to do
dark narwhal
cough cough you have to...cough...thevermind
tacit plank
And that would usually be true, but at the moment, trolls can just make new accounts. It probably doesn't take longer than 30 seconds to get back in
ruby needle
it does take efford and some things to do stuff
especially if they want to upload things their own again
tacit plank
Oh, no, that's the problem, the content gating thing doesn't stop any scripter
tacit plank
They steal avatars by ID, which works even when using Steam accounts
I don't know if VRChat bans the offending avatars that crashers use, but I haven't heard of that happening
Other than that flaw, I do like the content gating thing though
dark narwhal
it could just be reuploaded under a new id
tacit plank
Yeah, but they'd at least need a friend with a legit account to do that
And if they started banning crashing avatars, they will likely also ban the uploader, reducing the amount of accounts which can even upload crash avatars
dark narwhal
i remember the days before 10 percent of the plyer base was the scum of the earth
vocal shard
Am i the only one who thinks a small pay wall to upload would be an ok idea? Most of those who run scripts like that are kids anyway...
tacit plank
I don't, how long back do you have to go? It wasn't any better last december
umbral reef
If its to kill he game ts an dope idea @vocal shard
dark narwhal
it was much much better last december
vocal shard
Lol
quiet prawn
Sure it was. Last December the game had about 5% the current population.
umbral reef
This aint AE and the game is not so good people would pay for one of the core things within this game...
tacit plank
It still wouldn't stop steam accounts using crash avatars uploaded by others, and the game needs popularity
dark narwhal
too many prefabs for crashguns and now distortions are way more common
tacit plank
Last december I literally had to mute/block about 50 knuckles an hour. I also saw gore avatars and was raided by micspamming tanks, penguins or aliens a few times a day.
I'll take the crashers over that
dark narwhal
before it was more just ear rape
warped thorn
Honestly? We need hard particle limits and a shader whitelist for avatars. That'll kill almost all of the nasty stuff.
dark narwhal
the raids were unique to vrc tho so i liked some of them
umbral reef
shader whitelist?
mint fable
how would a shader whitelist work?
umbral reef
And boy your in for a treath with that first idea as its a thing
dark narwhal
nooooo my shadersssss
tacit plank
No, there's too many limitations already, and they never work anyways
tacit plank
Old particle limitation did not stop any crashers, neither did the content gating system, neither will any new system
quiet prawn
Stop it, no.
dark narwhal
i can come up[ with a system
tacit plank
And the crashes are unrelated to shaders to begin with
quiet prawn
Limit it, yes.
umbral reef
Its not like the old system was made without feedback from users and the current one you can turn on yourself works dope if set up right what is also the reason they made that channel i linked
dark narwhal
single player vrc fixes everything if u think about it
vocal shard
We need an actual vrpd. Not the roleplay, but real ones that patrol the worlds and can take action. Lol
thorny totem
create a world/room with 4 walls put the Vrchat rules on it, put a singing rick astley in the middle - (never gonna give you up), everything in loop. redirect all flagged as ban in it for a month (rewrite every world addresses on the fly to that one, so they can't escape it). Make a chef sandwich, put a camera in that world, stream it on twitch, get rich, use the money to hire more devs.
umbral reef
Thing is-- They already got ingame mods-- Just not like 10K of them
tacit plank
Look how effective the polygon limit is. That is how effectice any other system you can think of will be
dark narwhal
Beautiful idea Kane
umbral reef
Poly limit is a retarded limit anyway
dark narwhal
it is too low meshes are abigger factor than polys but meshes arent even limited
umbral reef
Its so low (For almost all MMD models) it kinda forces users to bypass it unless they invest plenty of time to decimate or they just scuff the model
tacit plank
Last time I saw a mod was about 4 months ago lol
dark narwhal
lol same
umbral reef
To be fair i have never seen a mod in game 
tacit plank
Exactly. It only stays in so that new players look into optimization
limpid river
what happen when you click the mod button anyway ?
umbral reef
Then why not throw up an material limit-- Throw the current pol limit towards that still below one mesh count thingy and wowie already more optimizations going on
dark narwhal
that awkward feeling when u request a mod and evryone leaves before the mod gets there so u just leave and hide
mint fable
10K is not low, lol
tacit plank
There's also a limitation on avatar sounds, avatar size, and there used to be a limit on particles. Also one on usernames. All of them are useless
umbral reef
@mint fable Change my mind then
dark narwhal
DUN DUN DUN
tacit plank
Every realistic or pretty model you see in VRChat is likely using at least 40-50k polygons
vocal shard
I feel good to get 16k, but 10!?!
umbral reef
Its that i care about my model and spend hours decimating manually part by part that im at the 19999 cap without it looking ubber scuffed
Or not scuffed at all but i spend way to much time on it
dark narwhal
the struggle
quiet prawn
That isn't true at all.
thorny totem
you can make a pretty high quality cube with 10k, what more do you want?
dark narwhal
base spheres are about 250 polys i think
tacit plank
Cubes don't look like young catgirls
umbral reef
Base sphere is shit :^)
Just use the cube and the round tool
dark narwhal
i had to decimate them to make a gumball machine
thorny totem
not if you go full reddit on the subdivide button :)
limpid river
i recently made an avatar with 8 polies
umbral reef
Saves polys and is more realistic smooth
tacit plank
Even the default plane in Unity is over 100 polys (despite being a square, which should be two triangles). Unity is kinda dumb
dark narwhal
I could make a really good 0 poly model u just make the mesh render inactive until u use a gesture
#plaingthe system
tacit plank
That's just tricking the SDK though
dark narwhal
tricking but not cheating wink wink
thorny totem
and spawn 10 1Mk rolex Doki?
tacit plank
Which I guess you could do unintentionall. That's how easy it is to bypass the limit, you don't even have to try
umbral reef
Man i should add a Rolex on my avatar 
vocal shard
Could you set it to activate on the idle override?
dark narwhal
i saw someone with a 600k poly rolex a couple days back
umbral reef
Just like gold chains and all
dark narwhal
good question Jamie that would be good until u walk
vocal shard
Lol
dark narwhal
just added to every animation
umbral reef
Cant ya just make an animation that always plays and doesnt loop just triggers one where it starts disabled but then turns on?
dark narwhal
probably
vocal shard
I gues the same as a binking animation right?
thorny totem
yes
umbral reef
yea but then diffrent legacy setting
dark narwhal
my poly count can afford to blink
vocal shard
Ah
tacit plank
Loop animations? They're usually used for things like tail wagging I think. Should work
dark narwhal
sooooooooooo a 1mill poly avatar that does not break the rulessss mhhhh
vocal shard
42 hrs and still cant upload woohoo
umbral reef
Dont want the avatar to be blinking for a frame
thorny totem
lol and just like that a bad idea is born XD
umbral reef
Its not a new idea at all though
tacit plank
Wagging tails don't blink though, neither does emotes.
Anyways, there's easier methods to bypass it, so it doesn't matter
dark narwhal
render me this batman why did the chicken cross the road
thorny totem
true but some will test it tonight @umbral reef
vocal shard
But it's not "breaking the rulesss" lol
tacit plank
What I think is, do whatever the hell you want. You're just a dick if you make something which lags others
umbral reef
@tacit plank Tail and eyes dont start in a off state...
tacit plank
Toggleable meshes, then, I guess?
umbral reef
Eyes just move and get to an base 0 state
Same for the tail once it loops
The avatar starts in an 0 state and has to end in an 1 state and keep at the 1 state
As if it reached the 0 state ever again its not there
vocal shard
Lol. I had a friend show off their new avatar. It took about a minute to load in. The whole load in, i was just imagining what some from the discord would've been saying. Lol
umbral reef
Yelling to fix there shit
tacit plank
For emotes, frames are always "enabled" if you set them to it
umbral reef
When you trigger an emote you turn the state to 1...
Once the emote ends it returns to 0
tacit plank
Emotes don't have missing frames, even though they're disabed by default, so the same should be doable with other things as well
umbral reef
I have an emote that does not go away unless im in idle mode
Ah im to tired and to be fair- im fairly sure you can do this idea in like 200 ways and have it work fine
tacit plank
I have a prop which is always active once I enable it once. I have to use another emote to disable it. I'm not sure why that is happening though
umbral reef
And we are both thinking of another way
tacit plank
I do see your point, I just think it's possible to avoid that problem, Unity has a bunch of settings for animations
thorny totem
never gonna give you up ♫♫♫
vocal shard
whats the new mail feature on the vrchat website?
dark narwhal
MAIL ME @proud lodgeDOKISLAYERXXX
vocal shard
zarniwoop might have finally got his wish
south mist
I wish more people had big avatars, i used to use big ass avatars all the time and people thought it was cool but now that i use more scaled down avatars i cant ever get the experience of seeing a really big and cool avatar
thorny totem
make a small avatar and everything will feel big?
dusk dagger
like any mod here or someone of VRCHAT who can help me out real quick?
vocal shard
meshes arent bad, skinned meshes are
south mist
@thorny totem then i still cant get the experience of being miniscule compared to massive giant
thorny totem
20cm is small enough to get the feeling
south mist
ok i am small, but i still dont hrt to see the reality altering giants that go through the roof
thorny totem
yes but then you don't get banned for using a modified sdk
south mist
yes but you can edit the bounding box to achieve the same effect
besides i have an avatar that just barely touches the roof of presentation room
thorny totem
and then you get blocked for being obnoxious ;)
south mist
And i dont mod
but if you are big but dont go out if your way to annoy people, you dont get blocked
I used big avatars and only got blocked by like 2 people
And if i use small avatar then nobody sees me
And in turn no interesting things to come
I have small avatars and people fail to notice me
vocal shard
Stand on a table
south mist
Im not superman i cant jump very high
cold talon
Fly!
south mist
And in great pug i cant jump in vr
cold talon
Ez
thorny totem
and here we come to the root of the problem, the need to be seen :). there is other ways you know
vocal shard
kane why are you being such a condescending asshole damn
cold talon
Wohw
south mist
Nope, the problem is i want to have the feeling of seeing somebodies finger the size of my head
cold talon
That came feom nowhere
thorny totem
because i can ?
south mist
Its nothing to do with attention
indigo fern
@cold talon What ping thing?
quiet prawn
Don't forget to be excellent to each other.
cold talon
Back to the original thread
thorny totem
n8 you tell me :D
@south mist ok have to say i've seen some good one though, iron giant, some dragon, it's cool when it's new and fresh, but passed the 10 wow encounter, it become like the knucles, a bit old
south mist
yeah i find iron giant and dragons such as alduin lame but fresh new custom made models are always a joy to see
thorny totem
yes some creative guys out there no doubt
south mist
Thats why whenever me or people i know see somebody with an overused model we switch to our versions and stand around and do thumbs down
inner cape
What's happening
south mist
We are speaking
thorny totem
yep :)
vocal shard
Uh.. we're typing...
indigo fern
i thought they were jogging, huh
learn something new everyday
thorny totem
;D
south mist
i see this kamehameha particle effect everywhere seriously
its overused
I saw a knuckles with it
indigo fern
and the "incinerator"
vocal shard
It was just added to "that site" so yeah
south mist
site?
limpid river
kamehameha is overused ? i though about making one for an avatar
south mist
oh, i think i might know what site you are spoken'st'ing about
inner cape
Its the reg from made in abyss thing
south mist
@limpid river its not the kamehameha itself, its just that people have a prefab for particles
That EVERYBODY uses
inner cape
Ye
limpid river
ah okay i thought i missed a new treand that made it uncool
vocal shard
i amde a kamehameha particle like laser before
it was not a prefab
the chargeup was 2 particles
south mist
Its the equivalent to going to the top avatar server, getting a neat model, and then going to presentation room and flaunting it around
vocal shard
and the laser a 4k(x2) Lline"
south mist
Neat! How did it turn out?
thorny totem
reusing is not annoying if done with taste and with some variations, a twist or something i think
south mist
im planning on making a joseph joestar model with a hermit purple whip but i just wondered, how would one go about making a whip
thorny totem
dynamic bones?
south mist
i've seen whips done with dynamic bones but it just looked like a pole made of jello
its like it had no weight
thorny totem
try cloth then but be gentle with the geometry
vocal shard
its pretty complicated overall
cloth could work too
planar decimate the hell out of the whip tho
could just animate it
south mist
wadda ya mean weight it properly, i wouldnt use a un rigged whip
south mist
cloth seems like a good solution, thanks!
vocal shard
planar decimation holds the shape
cloth is every tri being dynamic
so planar decimate is good there
median basalt
I've seen good whips with dynamic bone
thorny totem
as said don't go crazy with the mesh or everyone will hate you :)
vocal shard
optimization first
dark narwhal
add force to dynamic bones
fiery moth
One particle effect I want to see is this one cosmetic item Blade & Soul had, which gave a pink kind of swirling particle effect around the characters
dark narwhal
so it kinda floats a bit
fiery moth
Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbFhpl_W3UI
thorny totem
yes a shader could do just fine
add a cylinder around your avatar
i've seen something close somewhere
have a look on shadertoy, just convert the shader
south mist
The funnest part of making an avatar is savagly scouring the internet and nicovideo to find a model
median basalt
The funnest part is when you delete all the materials and replace it with the one atlas material
vocal shard
the funnest part is realising importing isnt making anything
median basalt
Wot?
vocal shard
wat?
limpid river
wut ?
inner cape
Best part is being complimented for your stuff 
worldly cedar
idek if i’m allowed to ask that here, But does anyone know someone who commissions avatars? \o/
fiery moth
Better have some cash on hand, but theres a few people
thorny totem
you have the vrctrader server
inner cape
Or me
limpid river
i always wondered if commissions are against the tos since you make money with vrchat property (the sdk) and if i remember right thats not allowed
south mist
ill take 1000 bucks to give you an avatar thats decimated so much it looks like a triangle
thorny totem
hum that's a good question but using a tool to produce some content doesn't bind you, unless they specify it clearly in the eula/tos, i think @limpid river
south mist
Dubs be checked
thorny totem
imagine microsoft owning all your stuff ;)
inner cape
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6246 users in VRChat currently
inner cape
Fuq
limpid river
hmm maybe i remmeber wrong and that part was about reselling the sdk
south mist
You cant resell windows but you can make stuff using windows and sell it
south mist
you cant sell the sdk but you can make stuff and sell it, or so id presume as i havrnt actually fully read the tos
limpid river
well some plugins that deal with windows intera you cant sell
brisk shadow
Does anyone know the name of the base model for the avatar Forceable uses to dance with?
inner cape
Gotta sell that sdk with uploading rights 
south mist
Conquer
thorny totem
:D @inner cape
limpid river
is that the new wow goldmining ? getting an account and playing long enough to get the customer upload rights
inner cape
Every time someone asks when can they upload, slide in into their dms
Sell them that juicy sdk with permissions
thorny totem
and get the last lambo in a week
south mist
but the seller is that your sdk gives you 3 extra polys
thorny totem
@limpid river i'm sure there is some on ebay already :P
south mist
How 2 make shape key permanent
limpid river
i sometimes wonder if vrchat is just a ruse and was developed to get free 3d models
limpid river
night
vocal shard
Make shape key permanent ? Like keeping an expression permanently ? Not sure to understand.
thorny totem
if it was it would be the worst way ever to do it :\ . just do like google open a repository and wait @limpid river
inner cape
I see how it is
south mist
@vocal shard activate a shape key permanently, as doing things such as testing eye tracking disables my active shape keys
thorny totem
@vocal shard make the shape key value 100%?
south mist
does anybody remember airman ga taosenai
thorny totem
@inner cape oops sorry nnight night (doing some other stuff in the same time)
south mist
When i export my model cats gets rid of like hakf the materials and merges thdm
When i need the unmerged
thorny totem
fbx model?
south mist
Indeed
thorny totem
import it directly without using cats?
south mist
Ok
thorny totem
i don't use cats btw so there is maybe something specific to it,idk
mortal walrus
guys, I've seen an adult being weird with a kid in game. I selected report abuse but a mod hasn't joined, is there someone I can talk to to get this guy banned?
south mist
I'd say vote kick but that wouldnt solve anything
In your case, id just sweat nerveously
thorny totem
if someone is around maybe, or you should check this #moderation-reports
mortal walrus
thanks, i'll try and submit that report if I can get the name of the dude
It was a 26 year old dude talking to a 10 year old girl as his granddaughter
and she was offering to send pics through discord (don't know if it was a joke)
south mist
I exported as a .dae but almost all the mats were removed again
mortal walrus
yeah her account needs to be banned too, she shouldn't be on this
thorny totem
clearly
south mist
BLENDER STOP CO BINE MATS
vocal shard
26 year old should know better than hang out with underageds
that 26 year old boomer talking to children in vrc
thorny totem
interesting some mat could be merged depending of the options i suppose, atlasing?
thorny totem
as said i don't know much about the cats blender combo
south mist
I had optmize mesh on
vocal shard
You have all that ? Do you work in the 3D industry ? (just curious) lol
thorny totem
eheh it's getting too personal :)
vocal shard
Ah sorry. lol
thorny totem
:D
vocal shard
I use Blender, I hate it's interface but... it works. So it's okay. lol
south mist
i use blender cause im broke
thorny totem
yes it's totally fine if you start on it and it's free ! but when you've started on something else it's a total waste of time learning all the shortcuts and all ;)
vocal shard
its like gimp vs photoshop
thorny totem
and to be honnest you'll found 0 studio using it...someone will kill me eheh
thorny totem
yes rub same thing
rough pulsar
You'd be surprised how much blender does get used in studios. Maybe not as a the main program much, but in some part of the pipeline.
vocal shard
Blender shortcut... RREEEE !!! Lol. I dislike how it uses non-standard shortcuts like "A" to select all when pretty much all other software uses "Ctrl+A" to select all. Just an example. lol
thorny totem
indie studio maybe, but there is no serious pipeline for it, go take a look at blur and ask them about blender lol
but for what it is it's pretty powerfull no doubt
dawn scroll
Does anyone know why whenever I try to log in it says unauthorized
thorny totem
try to change your password
dawn scroll
i just did and it still does it
rough pulsar
@dawn scroll Try logging into the website and see if it works there
https://vrchat.com/
thorny totem
But it remain a CAD like every others right, with a great community behind it, Gallium, but i've seen the new beta UI and hmmm not for me at all ^^
vocal shard
I remember making cars for a game in ZModeler lol
rough pulsar
2.8 is looking to be another big jump, similar to the 2.5 one.
thorny totem
eheh zmodeler is quite cool though, tiny & fast
dawn scroll
@rough pulsar It worked on the websit
thorny totem
i've seen more than 6 cases with the same issue, usually changing the password solved it. Some db hickup?
vocal shard
Hope it's nothing serious
thorny totem
hope not
south mist
Id commit seppuku if that happened because i have imported so many models
thorny totem
nah i don't think so, it would be a nightmare in here. But some specific bug happening when too much ppl log in the same time is possible or something in the same latitude
vocal shard
should i email support@vrchat.com because its been over 40 hrs and i still cant upload?
ruby needle
Becoming verified by the trust system is based on reaching a certain trust score, which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner with your VRChat account, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling won't help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time this takes seems to roughly be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not using a steam account by accident because those can not be verified and continue playing the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
vocal shard
@vocal shard Personally I got upload permissions after making a few friends on VRChat and using a non-steam account. I had over 50 hours of gameplay or so I think.
So I guess gameplay hours aren't everything.
thorny totem
it's secret sauce :)
vocal shard
It's not a bad thing I guess. Prevents people from just idling their way to upload permissions lol
thorny totem
you should add this one too Fpaul https://medium.com/@vrchat/trust-systems-content-gating-9e501de487fa it gives some context
ruby needle
no
there is lot of reson and reworking the text till the current state
making it too long means less interest in reading it
this is my current compromise of detail and length
the medium thing is was to long
no unser asking this stupid question is gonna care and read it
the help thing is official and short
thorny totem
fair enough
ruby needle
cus, im sorry to have to say that, this text is often in response to people that simply are stupid
ruby needle
oh there can be nice 13 aged persons
just as there can be braind dead 30 aged persons
thorny totem
yes no doubt
vocal shard
iv made some really good friends and want them to see a cool model i have
thorny totem
i dont judge at all :) easier
thorny totem
:D
south mist
Wait is there a trust system?
thorny totem
i've met a 68 yo woman once and 1 actor (well known), was funny
ruby needle
P.s reading the changelogs of a in dev game is very recommendet
south mist
I havent been gone but i never heard of a trust system, i guess it hasnt affected me
What is it?
thorny totem
south mist
I never got a notif lol
ruby needle
every changelog / the important parts are announced in #announcements all the time
also you can read the changelogs on steam
it is HIGHLY recommendet for a game that is in developement
there can always be fundermental changes
vocal shard
@vocal shard
languid beacon
Is there a proper venue for feature requests?
languid beacon
thanks
vocal shard
LET ME UPLOAD OM
south mist
Ive always been able to upload lol
vocal shard
U...
ive been palying vrchat for a pretty long time and i just now got public banned LOL
i usually get 1 month, but now its public ban, id rather have that then banned from vrchat cuz i can atleast play with my friends
I didn't even know public ban was a thing. That actually sounds better than fully being locked out of the game.
But how long does it last?
south mist
public ban?
ancient kayak
PUBLIC BAN
Banned from Public or Friends+ instances temporarily but still allow them to remain in VRChat and use Friends & Invite only instances.
solemn plover
I've been playing for 1.2k hours plus and never had a ban, how do you guys manage to catch the hammer?
vocal shard
crashing people?
solemn plover
Just don't crash people...
vocal shard
No idea. I've never had a ban. I don't plan on it
solemn plover
I know it is going to sound silly, but I do hope people u derstand the road they take when they do stuff that gets them banned and they accept it and move on until it expires.
vocal shard
True, unless it's a shotgun ban where you get banned by association or for having a connection to someone by uploading a model for them, but they end up doing something that gets them banned, so you get it too
Oof
if i know someone that's crashing people constantly and being a dick
where could i report them
fast bronze
And solution to that @vocal shard is just don't upload for others... It's too easy for people to load unity, import an asset package, login and click upload...
vocal shard
u need proof tho
so get logs
I know. I just meant for other people who were trying to be nice or do commissions, but got part of the ban. I don't upload for others
if ur estart vrc
the logs r refreshed
fast bronze
I was more talking to others thinking it's fine to do so lol, I commission but I make packages and instruction tutorial videos for using them so there's no questions
near saffron
So is public bans actually a thing? Is it new?
near saffron
Might make public instances better if it reduces the amount of people avoiding bans
vocal shard
So like I got reported for having a seizure in vrchat .-.
its better thna 1 monthing
i agree
viscid cave
can anyone help me with an issue I'm having with avatars?
pliant roost
inner nimbus
@cold reef sup big boi
rigid heath
YoU MuST SpeND MorE TiME In ThE ApP
vocal shard
jagged chasm
is there channel to link pictures of collections? cards? figurines?
cause i got something cool to share
umbral reef
If its VRC related you can post it in both #general-media and #vrchat-pictures
If its not VRC related just throw it in #general-media and just make sure it aint spammy
wispy acorn
https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/8zd5wh/meta_help_me_to_convince_the_vrchat_team_to
What do you think discord
fading abyss
anyone here from netherlands who have full body tracking with the vive trackers?, I am looking for straps but so far hard to find any 😒
vocal shard
Guys I have no sound in game how to fix?
odd wolf
@vocal shard are you trying to use speakers? Or headphones??
odd wolf
Because if you’re trying to use speaker make sure you’re phone is off silent, that’s probably why for speaker ,
Headphones I’m not sure ://
vocal shard
Why my phone?
polar jasper
@fading abyss these are the best ones I can suggest: https://rebuffreality.com/collections/frontpage
Just don't do express, as it is shipped from UK, but takes 1 week, even with express 😛
odd wolf
Because if it’s on silent it won’t work ( I don’t know how to explain it but it doesn’t work if the phone os on silent, but it’s not just for the game it’s usually for anything really ^^;
@vocal shard ^
odd wolf
@vocal shard oh I have no idea then ^^;; sorry, usually if I’m using speaker and there’s no sound that’s usually why it doesn’t work for me ^^;;
vocal shard
after 20 million hours i can upload
fading abyss
polar jasper
Weird, I ordered directly from the site because amazon doesn't ship to Norway.
fading abyss
at the main site the problem was payment :p but amazon being like that >_<
crystal pewter
Hey, I have a question regarding rule 13 of the discord
i dont want to get banned so i wont ask it here, but who CAN i ask its not a question of how to do it....
ill delete this message if needed 😛
any mod that I can DM?
floral aspen
if we can't discuss game ripping and piracy here why do you think the mods would tell you where to go?
modern sand
Elsewhere 👀
crystal pewter
im not asking them where to go
indigo fern
crystal pewter
i have a question about the rule
i just dont want to risk getting banned for a question.
floral aspen
your post made it seem like you were asking someone to tell you who to ask how to rip games
crystal pewter
that is not the case, sorry for making you misunderstand my question
okay ill risk it, if this bypasses the rule, then delete the message (i can too), I dont think it is though
Rule 13 only appears on the discord, i cannot find anything on the official website or the wiki, so does this rule apply to the game aswell or just this discord?
modern sand
The discord
crystal pewter
thanks!
soft turret
what uhhh
what ever became of the hunt for Mr whiskers I stopped following it and ended up hearing nothing
floral aspen
it's on hiatus right now @soft turret
They want to get the final puzzle right and not have any bugs
serene kettle
When did the website's social features get a total overhaul? There's even a mail system, presumably for alerts from the VRC team.
soft turret
ah, so it did progress to the final puzzle. that's good to hear
was worried it was just defunct
floral aspen
idk sporeboy. Must have been within the last few days because it wasn't there on Sunday or Monday
safe yacht
What’s VRChats stance on advertising?
In the game.
Theres a new world here thats flat out just someone shilling their own Twitch channel. It’s just named after his twitch channel name. The world itself is just a bunch of names, names of twitch channels in big letters and a mirror...
vocal shard
I mean... It did get approved for upload... Idk.
safe yacht
I guess it wont be a bother when nobody goes there, but still...
It will stop being relevant by not being on New Worlds and never be relevant, I guess.
vocal shard
Lol. A wast of server space.
safe yacht
I suppose.
In other news, a new kind of scum is one that mutes all other players by default but spams loud music themselves.
vocal shard
Sounds fun...
Rip this game
halcyon ingot
Definitely scum
median basalt
@soft turret it went the same way as any other ARG
It annoyed the fuck out of 99% of people because it's a crappy ad
The other 1% will see it fizzle out because the creators decided it isn't worth it or they didn't get the amount of attention they had hoped
halcyon ingot
Pretty much
soft turret
that's very cynical :L
floral aspen
but it's just a game. They aren't advertising anything
halcyon ingot
That's what the arg was
languid beacon
Did anything ever come of that IK beta? Or are people sworn to secrecy?
halcyon ingot
I know some stuff from a friend
Not sure if I can tell
I can tell you it's still going on
floral aspen
idk. The closed beta channel has been dead for weeks
it's hard to tell since it's a beta within a beta. Only a certain subset of the beta testers have access to it
halcyon ingot
There are always betas going on the public isn't aware of
floral aspen
many of us volunteered but I think only a few were chosen. They were mostly looking for testers that had full body tracking
halcyon ingot
They needed them to test the new full body ik system
median basalt
The new IK system is probably happening
Nobody knows when
@soft turret it's true though
floral aspen
ehh I'd disagree about the ARG but to each their own
median basalt
Nobody cares about ARG's because they are always just a bunch of people looking to advertise something
And the way this one was done
Was to be as invasive as humanly possible
median basalt
Yeah
What did they do to that map, anyway?
I wasn't there
Wait, was the huge map expansion part of the ARG?
halcyon ingot
Trashed it
median basalt
Ah
floral aspen
some of the tree's were on fire
halcyon ingot
The expansion wasn't an arg thing
floral aspen
and they added a big puzzle you could solve
median basalt
The thing that killed Gaia Night was almost certainly the map expansion, since everyone got too spread out for it to be a hangout
halcyon ingot
But the expansion killed it
median basalt
Yeah
I think there's a camping grounds alternative now, still runs decently well so I'm ok with it
halcyon ingot
There is a really cool cave map
It's like a small cave with afire and it's heavy rain night outside
floral aspen
been to that map. It's pretty cool
halcyon ingot
It's really cosy and has a great atmosphere
floral aspen
very atmospheric
median basalt
Haven't been there yet, I will once my new PC arrives
I wish there was a way for all this fancy shader stuff to work with just baked lights
Like Realtoon's gloss and depth textures on just about any shader
languid beacon
Darn, I had full body tracking and am bored to death lol
median basalt
@halcyon ingot just add a directional light to your avatar lol
Guaranteed working shader everywhere but people will hate you
(Please don't do this)
Still though, I've seen maps that do this really well and others that don't. I wonder how they do it? I think it might be culling masks so it only affects players
In terms of optimization
torn drift
does anyone know where I can find the phil margera mmd DL?
halcyon ingot
@median basalt every map will shine
vocal shard
oof
halcyon ingot
Minecraft oof or Roblox oof?
vocal shard
inner cape
halcyon ingot
I would agree.
wraith stone
Minecraft is good
halcyon ingot
It's pretty good
ruby needle
SevTech 
vocal shard
Man.... I should install SevTech again and play that in VR.
ruby needle
oof
that is like, very early
shit gets crazy each age
me and a friend hit age 2 lately
or was it 3? i dunno the one where you had to do the saw to get to 😛
now we gotta go to betweenlands 
Astro age
vocal shard
I'll get there someday™, need to relearn stuff first.
ruby needle
thats a nice thing about SevTech
it's very nice in its progression
but enogh of that 
vocal shard
Aye, that's why I liked playing it. 
ruby needle
yeah it is keeps giving you reachable objectives and has a nice progression curve which motivates to keep going
ivory folio
there are a few people that have stolen my avatar, but overwriting/deleting the avatar doesn't seem to do anything
they still have it
opaque remnant
then they probably ripped the cache files?
ruby needle
i heard of a differend methode they have now
ivory folio
I didn't think shaders were obtainable that way?
ruby needle
oooh everything can be optained with the right tools
it has to be played back in some way doesn't it?
that means you can extract all required information somehow
afaik there is also a methode for them to clone the avatar without ripping it directly. how that is done i have no idea tho
as in, they do not get the files but are able to clone it to their account 
opaque remnant
that's just the usual blueprint copy, no?
deleting the avatar from your account should fix that
ruby needle
no
opaque remnant
or are they getting a new id for their account?
opaque remnant
sounds plausible
ruby needle
and ofc there always is the complete rip from cache / ram
which is the worst case cus they get the real files out of that
opaque remnant
pretty much. if someone wants your avatar badly enough, they can get it
ruby needle
yes
there is no prevention for someone with the knowledge / right tools
you can only try to make it as hard as possible for those who lack full knowledge
best example the cats protection thing
it makes the model unusable for those who can't rip shapekeys
median basalt
Sevtech kinda fizzles out after the midgame
I'm sticking to All The Mods 3 despite the bad balancing
Store 2 billion items in a black hole unit? No problem man, two ender eyes
Store 2 billion items in a drawer? Grind for 2 months, needs the ultimate endgame item
gaunt ginkgo
You play sevtech on the atl launcher?
rigid heath
So do I have to spend like 50 hours in vrchat to use the sdk or what?
10 hours, account age is far beyond 24 hours Im not getting this
floral aspen
»THE PASTA«
“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”
“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.”
“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”
“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
rose wharf
Anybody know where to get those avatars that can dance and have a really cool effect when its dancing like shakes or beat drops or as I saw a umbrella song with a person doing the electro shuffle with a car behind them and there were a lot of effects like stars, beats, etc.
rigid heath
@floral aspen So I should be logged into my VRC account on the game instead of steam?
floral aspen
yes. hours on your steam account don't count
rigid heath
Goddamnit
floral aspen
sorry dude, they really need to make that more clear
rigid heath
thanks for the info
rose wharf
I lost virginity in vr
rigid heath
It happens to the best of us
rose wharf
lmao
umbral reef
Pretty sure thats not how Vr works
rose wharf
She bent down and I went clappin
rigid heath
It checks out
ivory folio
for reporting someone stealing avatars/using modded client, should I send off the output log?
ivory folio
yeah will the output log actually provide any proof?
because I know he is using one, he had my avatar earlier
limpid river
no idea i never looked into the logs a video might be more useful
is your avatar completely self-made ?
rough pulsar
@ivory folio Yes, the output log helps with these kind of things. Send an email to moderation@vrchat.com and attach the output log to it. Mentioning what time (whatever your local time is) what happened helps narrow down where to look.
ivory folio
I didn't see him with my avatar on today, my friend sent me a screenshot of him wearing it
but he has the same bunch of stolen avatars that I keep seeing
rough pulsar
Mention the username as well then, the admins can have a look into things.
meager solstice
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6349 users in VRChat currently
gaunt ginkgo
!online
cold talon
!offline
halcyon ingot
!inline
floral aspen
!outline
limpid river
is it a new change that you need upload priviliages to use pedestals in private worlds ?
gaunt ginkgo
Anyone interested in playing? I have VR so I thought this'll be fun for me so I tried it and I have no idea where I'm going so I think I might need a bit of help 😂
outer hill
What’s the polygon limit?
cold talon
What is or why is?
umbral reef
20K
outer hill
Ah thx
sudden palm
anyone know the world this avatar is from?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/412445358652915713/469269505860960256/aviplz.PNG?width=400&height=295
woven trellis
im having height issues any helpendeerus?
ruby needle
you might wanna ask in one of the avatar channels asuming it has to do with your avatar?
sleek bone
steel ingot
Excuse me but does anyone know what world can i take Darling Franxx Abatars ? Thank you
sleek bone
@steel ingot there's one for zero two
jovial storm
ohhh?
vocal shard
Speaking of height in VRchat, how tall is even everyone in it? Is there any official way to find out what your avatars height is? What id we are like 2 meters tall
long venture
