#vrchat-general-2 | VRChat | Page 471

bold glen Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 AM

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Ahh

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 1:13 AM

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if someone really cares for getting a model then that person propably will try a cache rip

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cus everything else is simply just temporary anyway

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:20 AM

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yeah if you get your avatar stolen the absolute best thing you can do is ignore them. do not react at all. don't even look at them. mute/block them if you want, and record them if you want to report them, but absolutely do not get angry or upset, best to say nothing at all. they don't give a crap about your avatar, they want a reaction, don't give them one, and they will find the avatars useless and replace it with someone else's.

ebon shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:21 AM

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i hunger for stolen pipeline ids

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havent been able to meme any model thieves yet ;/

hasty wedge Jul 6, 2018, 1:24 AM

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still waiting for the day someone copies mine

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so i can kiss myself

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feelsnepman

gaunt pine Jul 6, 2018, 1:25 AM

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wow

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:25 AM

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upload it public and put it on a pedistal lol

hasty wedge Jul 6, 2018, 1:26 AM

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its not the same

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i have to await the moment it suddenly appears infront of my eyes without notice

gaunt pine Jul 6, 2018, 1:26 AM

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instead of asking me like a cival person and telling me what i was saying offended them i got kicked wtf and to top it off i was pnly singing a christmas song.. at any time they could have asked me to stop

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wow

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:28 AM

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well i mean, this is the internet. and whoever owns the instance is god. they can kick for no reason at all if they want to :V

gaunt pine Jul 6, 2018, 1:29 AM

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yeah i know but thats messed up

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i didnt do anything wrong

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:30 AM

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yeah you can get kicked for doing nothing wrong, they could just not want you there

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stick with public instances so you'd have to be votekicked instead

carmine dew Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 AM

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What do I do if my ping for some reason keeps going to 6000?

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:34 AM

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and if someone you don't know drops a portal don't go in it unless you're sure they are ok with it; especially if its friends only and you are not their friend, quick way to get yourself kicked

carmine dew Jul 6, 2018, 1:34 AM

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well even if it's public if the owner of the world is there they can kick ANYONE

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 1:34 AM

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yeah that's really an oversignt imho.

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i don't like that either

carmine dew Jul 6, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Well yeah but still it can happen

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Anyway

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Ping keeps getting 6000

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Idk what to do

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On my own it's 120 to 90 but with people it's wayyyy up there

carmine dew Jul 6, 2018, 1:54 AM

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Okay im honestly about to be done with vrchat

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All these problems and issues always happening and only with this game

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 2:09 AM

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my vive trackers work perfectly but i notice my head tracking studders/ shakes a lot in a mirror which does not happen without fullbody, any idea what causes it?

obtuse pine Jul 6, 2018, 2:12 AM

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@hexed lily

ornate topaz Jul 6, 2018, 2:26 AM

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😃 👋🏼

fluid spade Jul 6, 2018, 2:43 AM

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anyone know how long it takes to be able to upload custom avatars
i am about to make like 3 different accounts and just play on the one thats get acess first

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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»THE PASTA«

“Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.”

“You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also making some friends. Idling wont help.”

“According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.”

“Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident because you will be treated as a guest”

“Also make sure that you don't enter your Vrchat account through Steam”

“Play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.”

http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 3:00 AM

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Just be active for a day or two

fluid spade Jul 6, 2018, 3:02 AM

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cool

warm mortar Jul 6, 2018, 3:27 AM

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did anybody else got shutdown?

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 3:41 AM

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my sister hijacked my laptop im back and ima try the modeling again

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guys

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I need my shoes to be selected individually

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how do I select two things at the same time?

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guys I cant import my hoodie.

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its a pmx fle...

ebon shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:12 AM

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get the cats plugin

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mmd tools too

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 AM

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I got em both

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cats plugin wont import the hoodie doe

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nvm got it to import the pmd

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it came with pmx and pmd

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the hoodie is like 3x smaller than the body xD

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my blender froze...

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it UNFROZE 😄

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nmv

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nvm

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the hoodie is breaking my blender.

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oh damn

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so many tis and faces.

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tris and face

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ITS BREAKING MY BLENDER CRAP

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waduhek

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nailed it its gone

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:28 AM

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you know, I've always wondered

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what's the deal with seeing the number of people that's in a server

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then actually joining the server and the numbers far less then was previously shown

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:29 AM

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J

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do you know of any hoodie mmd

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I cant find one for my life

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:30 AM

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sorry man, I don't even know what that is

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:30 AM

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avatar making

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hodie model

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hoodie

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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never made an avatar, sorry

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:31 AM

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lol

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me neither

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first one

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:32 AM

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lol

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best of luck

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I expect a lot of cool avatars

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cinnamon2

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but still

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can only explain this issue to me?

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It'd be appreciated

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:39 AM

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\

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oops

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what you want explaiined? xD

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:41 AM

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lol you know when you join a server, it says it has like 10 people active, but when you join theirs only like 1? I was wonder why that happens or if it can be fixed lol

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:42 AM

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?

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where did you read the 10

sly mango Jul 6, 2018, 4:47 AM

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I’ll post in vr pics

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 4:56 AM

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i cant find a freaking hoodie

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may I ask why its so hard to find a hoodie in deviant arts like everything but a hoodie is ther

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 5:05 AM

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Maybe it's not updated, maybe somebody blocked you, or maybe you're looking at the total amount of players across all instances rather than just one instance

dim aurora Jul 6, 2018, 5:13 AM

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@kindred prairie try googling the words "mmd Hoodie dl" into google images you should find something.

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usually when i look for something i google it in images.

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 5:32 AM

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dont wory bout t already fond it xD

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found

bright sparrow Jul 6, 2018, 5:34 AM

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i emailed support about vrchat not starting and they told me to check if my sdk was updated vrpill

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 5:36 AM

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guys

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I got my avatar rady to go

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it only has 15 tris xD

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15k

bright sparrow Jul 6, 2018, 5:36 AM

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15 tris poggers

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 5:40 AM

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I got another 4k free 😄

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lol

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ok ima watch the rest of the mega tutorial now.

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didnt have to decimate a thing 😛

ebon shard Jul 6, 2018, 5:42 AM

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what about materials tho

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 5:42 AM

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?

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wait why did it do the toungue

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I did this one 😄

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not 😛

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ikd about materials lol

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but oh well

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if I need qanything else Ill do it and ill decimate if needed dont worry about it xD

ebon shard Jul 6, 2018, 5:46 AM

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polys dont really matter but materials do

bright sparrow Jul 6, 2018, 5:56 AM

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inb4 like 50 draw calls

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 6:15 AM

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oh its all fine according to the megatutorial xD

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all materials are in an atlas

desert urchin Jul 6, 2018, 6:17 AM

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I have played 3 hours of VRchat and I want to import some of my avatars. When can I do this? I know I have to wait sometime.

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 6:19 AM

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@desert urchin https://www.reddit.com/r/VRchat/comments/8f3hg4/help_unable_to_upload_custom_avatars/

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literally just browse the web

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if you dont want to browse

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play

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add friends

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hop worlds

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have fun

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itll unlock eventually

desert urchin Jul 6, 2018, 6:19 AM

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Alright, will do. Thanks

kindred prairie Jul 6, 2018, 6:31 AM

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I am currently getting cubd shaders to import

stark gust Jul 6, 2018, 7:21 AM

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hey there is a guy in the great pug world crashing peoples games i have a screen shot of his profile. who can i show this to

polar jasper Jul 6, 2018, 7:25 AM

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@stark gust #moderation-reports

ivory folio Jul 6, 2018, 7:39 AM

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tell us his name so we can write him a strongly worded email 👀

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 7:47 AM

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@ivory folio you can submit his email to rescam :3

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 7:53 AM

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HOW WILL IP BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE OF VRCHAT?

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 7:54 AM

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...

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?

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 7:55 AM

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I think by IP they mean Intellectual Property, as in copyrighted things.

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 7:55 AM

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ooh

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the caps though

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 7:55 AM

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CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL MY DUDES 😎

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But yeah, the future of IP in vrchat is one hell of a question that's been asked many times and is as hard to answer for this case as it is for the rest of the internet.

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 7:57 AM

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IS THE LGPL AND GPL ENOUGH FOR OPEN SOURCED MODELS?

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 7:57 AM

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can you stop using caps...

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its so unneccessary

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 7:58 AM

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DO INTERNATIONAL LAWS APPLY TO CREATORS OF DIFFERENT COUNTRIES?

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Yeah, less capslock please. It sounds like you're shouting in my mind 😱

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However, to the best of my understanding, as VRChat is based in the USA (california specifically I believe) they're subject to US copyright law, which the L/GPL make use of.

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When you say is the L/GPL enough for open sourced models, what exactly do you mean by that?

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 8:06 AM

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No not necessarily

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Like, if you would have copy an asset from an American and have it in China, probably not, no

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But, yeah since the game is based in the US, it does need to follow us law

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 8:07 AM

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We're both still correct though, since vrchat are the ones hosting the content- yeah that's what I was implying.

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:11 AM

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When it comes down to it, it's just people yelling at eachother for having electric signals stored in a specific order

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:11 AM

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😂

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true

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:12 AM

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good thing the vote got pushed back till september, save for a little bit. just hope he bill dies completely

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:12 AM

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@shy nest u from EU?

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:12 AM

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no

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:12 AM

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You could say the way that information and communication works is incompatible with what the government wants

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:12 AM

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; -;

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i am

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stoopid vote

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:14 AM

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Luckily, the law is completely unrealistic. They will keep reapplying it until they get it through, but nobody will be able to scan all user content

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:14 AM

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the bill is stupid because nothing like they want exists in the capacity they want it

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youtube has content id but that sucks ass 50% of the time

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 8:15 AM

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Saying youtube's system works the other 50% is being too generous. Youtube's system is atrociously bad.

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:15 AM

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The part im concerned about are my memes

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:15 AM

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None of Youtubes algorithms are anything to write home about. Good thinks that "Best fidget spinner mods 2018.mp4" is related to whatever Unity tutorial I'm watching.

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:16 AM

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WHO WILL BE THE ARBITRATOR OF THE DIGITAL AGE?
IF IT IS CONTEXT DEPENDENT HOW MUCH WILL IT BE, HOW IS CONTEXT FIGURED?
IF MULTIPLE PEOPLE TAKE CREDIT FOR ONE MODEL OR WORLD IS IT WRONG FOR OF THEM TO TAKE CREDIT?

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:16 AM

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jesus dude turn off capslock

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:16 AM

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memes are considered an intellectual creation, kind o

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:16 AM

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finally sth thats not a question from you

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 AM

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eh

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:18 AM

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The laws are not even properly defined

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:19 AM

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yeah, that's why I'm here, to talk about it before it becomes a problem.

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:20 AM

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The world is managed by retards, I just try to make the best of it

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:21 AM

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I mean to start the discussion, there's music, which contains large derivative works, and software, that also includes large complex interwoven and interdependencies,

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and also books, and papers, and other intellectual works.

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Thats why they pushed it back, they said that they cant just wave sth like that through

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fortunately

tacit plank Jul 6, 2018, 8:22 AM

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People can't even manage the current laws

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:22 AM

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But nowhere has it been where an intellectual creation be so associated with someone's presence that they are literally know by that piece of knowledge.

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 8:24 AM

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https://www.vrfocus.com/2018/07/plexus-unveil-affordable-option-for-vr-haptics/

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:25 AM

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saw that recently svel, im gonna wait till they get sent out and people review em

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dont want some plastic paperweight if they're shit

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:25 AM

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WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN COPYING SOMETHING, AND HAVING IT BE IT'S OWN THING?
(my questions are in capital to draw the emphasis)

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 8:25 AM

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249 is really cheap

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:25 AM

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yeah.

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:25 AM

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almost half of what I paid for my rift

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actually thats 249usd so like 336aud

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over half of what I paid for my rift

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can probably see now why im waiting

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:27 AM

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@vocal shard is it universally or only for vive / rift

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:27 AM

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all 3

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more preferable on the vive though, using a tracker on the back instead of the controllers looks and probably feels much less awkward

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:28 AM

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hmm

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i think im gonna wait for Valves knuckles instead

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 8:29 AM

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http://plexus.im/

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here for the website if you wanna check it out

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 8:30 AM

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Posts text post on subreddit

[Your post has automatically been removed because you didn't do the thing.]

Resubmits post, doing the thing.

[You're doing that too much, Do it again later. ]

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:30 AM

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xD

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Reddit in a nutshell

languid beacon Jul 6, 2018, 8:32 AM

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[Carefully waits until later to be able to post again, forgets to do the thing]

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:33 AM

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do they have haptic feedback?

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:33 AM

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ye

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:33 AM

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(Here I am asking questions about hardware, I clearly can't afford.)

shy nest Jul 6, 2018, 8:33 AM

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"In order to accomplish rich immersion, haptic feedback is applied to each fingertip for tactile interactions."

graceful vigil Jul 6, 2018, 8:35 AM

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I'm starting to get weary about VR TBH, maybe it's not the direction to take an isolationist immersion approach

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However I have seen many human connections form, through this medium and am happy about that.

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:49 AM

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^ I can agree with this, however, I've seen a lot of connections being made even in those without any virtual reality gear. While they may not seem natural based around the nature of vrc, this game brings people together all the same.

stark gust Jul 6, 2018, 8:49 AM

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@ivory folio it's Big Ounces

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:50 AM

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I do feel though that vr has a line that it may be coming close to crossing. Full body tracking seems like a little too much for some people, and it seems to make some other players feel less comfortable around someone who uses it when they themselves lack the equipment.

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 8:51 AM

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@foggy cloak itll only get worse with fingertracking and fullbody suits

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cuz i really want that but dont have the money for it

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 8:52 AM

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there is time before people can even think of being able to afford a full tracking suit

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:52 AM

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I like the idea behind it, but only the idea. I can't see it being very good in games like vrc when it comes to actual 100% full body

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 8:52 AM

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So even if I use my Steam account or VRChat account I still can't stay on the game for even 10 minutes without it freezing and logging me out then taking be back to the Hub. I'll join a world for a few seconds and walk around then everyone disappears and the vrchat logo pops up and says it's logging me in.

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Any fix?

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:53 AM

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Verifying the game files could be a start, as well as deleting the cache.

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 8:53 AM

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I've done both ;o;

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:53 AM

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I haven't run into any real problems yet, so I can't help too much..

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Maybe it's a firewall issue? I mean, normally if that were the case, you couldn't run the game at all, but there might be a conflict somewhere

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Check your AV or settings

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 8:54 AM

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I'll try

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Av settings?

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 8:54 AM

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Antivirus, sorry lol

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 8:55 AM

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Okay lemme see

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It's disabled

foggy cloak Jul 6, 2018, 9:00 AM

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Hold up, did you copy/paste an issue posted in the steam community? That's almost word for word with something I just read, but posted back in January...

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:15 AM

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@graceful vigil the real problem is thinking that IP rely only on Local laws, which is wrong and false, there are treaties between countries when it comes to IPs. Sound like some never heard of WIPO for example.

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:21 AM

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Yes

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I mean it's the same exact problem I'm having so

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Why reword it

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@foggy cloak

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Eh, I don't know what to do. I really want to play this game ;o;

ivory folio Jul 6, 2018, 9:36 AM

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And your internet is fine I'm assuming?

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Walk into public world with Sketchu and a few others and some dickwash named DigitalResonance steals her avatar right in front of her and starts talking shit to her right there

Jesus Christ the protection on this game is shit at the moment

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Well, I think so

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Everything else runs smoothly

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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at the moment? Been always the same

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Just use #moderation-reports

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and tada they will die off slowly

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Already used moderation support and no that doesn't work either, lol they can ban people all they want and all they do is just change their hardware id or use a vpn

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Ingame reporting or requesting for mods its as useless as it can be with current user counts

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So just use the #moderation-reports as i said...

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:44 AM

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I just said I used that

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Are you daft

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Ow i thought you meant the ingame report thingy

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:45 AM

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No why would I ever use that lmfao

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Why would anyone use that hahaha

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Because before the big user boom it worked?

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And because its an button in game

indigo fern Jul 6, 2018, 9:45 AM

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Rip the ingame button

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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but it doesn't work now lmfao, they have such a small team and it probably gets spammed all the time

indigo fern Jul 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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They probably turned it off

tulip kettle Jul 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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most likely

indigo fern Jul 6, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Poor button

ivory folio Jul 6, 2018, 9:48 AM

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have you tried the IPv6 fix that has been linked here a few times? @tough mesa

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:51 AM

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Hmm no

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Help ;w;

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:52 AM

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hmm not sure the IPv6 have something to do with it

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do you have enough space left on your HD?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:52 AM

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Yeah

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:52 AM

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what kind of connection do you have?

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when you say yeah it means?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:54 AM

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I have a router

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And it works

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Just not VR Chat

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I have an idea, what if I buy an Ethernet cable will that like give me better internet

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:54 AM

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doesn't say anything about the kind @tough mesa, did you cleaned your cache too? did you restart?

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Based on completely different problems with completely different things, I'd say at least give the ipv6 fix a try.
I can't use certain things on my phone if I have dual ip mode turned on (ipv4 and ipv6) but switching to just ipv4 and everything works correctly.

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 9:55 AM

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Yes, plenty of times ;w;

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How do I do this ipv6 thing

lean coyote Jul 6, 2018, 9:56 AM

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Is there anyway to see friends on the vrchatnet

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 9:57 AM

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https://medium.com/@JockDaRock/disabling-ipv6-on-network-adapter-windows-10-5fad010bca75
For windows 10

If some things stop working right you may need to re-enable ipv6, but I don't think many things even fully use it yet.

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:58 AM

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And best to use https://1.1.1.1/?utm_referrer=https://www.google.nl/ imo

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:58 AM

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i understand Gallium but messing with the IP stack of the client could open the door to other problem :\ . V4-V6 for now should be managed flawlessly by the router itself (assuming the router is not too old).

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Routers themself cna handle that shit fine

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But the ISP is often the problem

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 9:59 AM

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clearly

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no not even the ISP, the server itself

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:00 AM

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Well normally if you use the ISP router it auto connect to the ISP's dns server

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Its why i always suggest using cloudfare or google-- They are faster and depending where you live even more safe

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And the fail rate on them is insanely low

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:04 AM

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About the DNS issue, i still do not beleive it's an issue, it's cached, it does not explain the phenomenon HatsuneMiku suffer.

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Okay so the ipv6 thing

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Turns put I already had that done

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Out

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:06 AM

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to me it's smells connexion issues

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:06 AM

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Phenomenon HatsuneMiku I like that UwU

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Yeah maybe

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Although every other game works well

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I remember playing GTA v online smoothly with no connection problems

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:07 AM

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yes but all are not as demanding

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:07 AM

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Or Overwatch

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Okay, so should I buy like an Ethernet cable?

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Someone told me it does something

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:07 AM

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you should first test it if you can

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:08 AM

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Wait first test what

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:08 AM

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ping consistency, traceroute etc

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bandwidth

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:09 AM

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What, how do I do that ;-;

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I've tried connection tests

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:09 AM

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google? "how to test my connexion?"

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:10 AM

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I did it

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I've done it, and my connection is fine

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Sorry if I'm annoying

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:10 AM

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you did it but yet do not know how? hmmm

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:11 AM

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I've already tested my connection, I don't know how to do any other things you're saying though

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:11 AM

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these are some ways to test your connexion

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ok let's try something, just answer by yes or no, ok?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

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yes.

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

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not you :P

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

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Okay

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

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yes.

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:13 AM

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are you the only one using the link? - edit

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:14 AM

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What link

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Internet

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Oh, no

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Well kinda

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:15 AM

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Yes or no i said

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so no

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:15 AM

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I play vr chat at night when my parents are asleep so I'm the only one that uses it when I'm on vr

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But I guess no

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:15 AM

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does your issue happen all day long or only during some hours of the day?

ivory folio Jul 6, 2018, 10:16 AM

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yes or no 🤔

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:16 AM

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hmmm hard to say yes or no on this one XD

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:16 AM

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Fine, no

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:17 AM

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whatever say something

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:17 AM

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And yes all day

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:17 AM

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ok

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another 3rd party hardware connected to the internet? (TV, cellphones - how many, Fridge....)

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:18 AM

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Yes

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Our phones

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6 devices

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:20 AM

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When you play VRchat, nothing else is turning in the background? (ex: browser opened on youtube, downloading stuff etc)

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6 phones?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:21 AM

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I have steam open and discord

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4 phones 2 tv's

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Wait no they are off

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Uh

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4 phones

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I keep my chrome closed because I try to reduce lag as much as possible

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:22 AM

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If you can, try to get yourself ethernet

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Eliminates Wi-Fi so you don't have to worry too much about bandwidth

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And sharing

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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That's what I want to try to do, but idk how that works

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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and all that on a 25mbps or less plan, correct?

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Okay, is your house wired?

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It's on a 25mbps?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Yes

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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i assume

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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Holy hell, who do you have?

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:23 AM

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here you go

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:24 AM

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:c

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:24 AM

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Who is your ISP?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:25 AM

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I'm only 17 idk what that stuff is :c

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Who is the company that gives internet

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Do you know that?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:26 AM

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ATT2

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Att

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Okay, that's kind of weird to get 25 megabits per second through AT & T

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But okay

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And, your computer. It's rigged through Wi-Fi at the moment right?

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:26 AM

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Yes

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:27 AM

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now do a simple test, disconnect everything connected but your own PC (phones TV whatever), restart your pc and start Vrchat alone and see how it goes. If it's ok, you know the problem, if not, hmm we'll see

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:27 AM

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If your house doesn't have ethernet already, heres a little piece of equipment that could help you out

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https://express.google.com/u/0/product/4684530148613959103_1109813049509130217_6136318?utm_source=google_shopping&utm_medium=tu_cu&utm_campaign=6136318&pdata=CgU0OS45OQ&utm_content=eid-lsjeuxoeqt,eid-ptgtgfeotu,eid-ygcnqnyulq,4181973

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Essentially, it sends your internet through the power line of your house

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So, it's like ethernet. But it's not ethernet

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My 200mbps gets reduced down to like 50

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Or 75 on a good day

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But, it's a good work around if you don't have ethernet installed in your house already

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:29 AM

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Can I get that at best buy

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:29 AM

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Yeah

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They sell models of those at Best Buy

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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Is it not smarter to ask what he is using? 2.4h or other

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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And I just plug this on my router?

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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As that can also make a big diffrence

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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won't change the amount of network collisions/errors happening in his network or the bandwidth issues @tranquil vortex

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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She ;w;

lean coyote Jul 6, 2018, 10:30 AM

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The vrchatnet website doesn’t even show friends online

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:32 AM

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I mean

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Maybe it's the router that could be fucked too

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Tinkang

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:32 AM

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chances are the router is ok

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:32 AM

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That's what I was thinking, maybe

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Idk I'm bad at this

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:33 AM

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And ATT isn't fiber internet right

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:33 AM

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I don't think so

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:33 AM

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try what i told you and you'll figure it out

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a phone alone can suck 1/10 of you bandwidth for a short periode of time...

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add 4 of them, add a tablet 2 TV and whatever and your in for trouble

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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So if this is the case, and I wanted to play the game I have to have all these things off?

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Possible

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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try first

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and you'll know

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Okay

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Or find out if there's a 5Ghz line available

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:36 AM

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Oh I had 5g and it was the best thing but my mom changed it

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For this slower internet

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:37 AM

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i'm talking ISP bandwidth not the lan one

warped thorn Jul 6, 2018, 10:37 AM

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It's true. VRChat is a bandwidth hog.

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:38 AM

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it is

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but normal for the game, i mean maps avatars etc

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:38 AM

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I also don't have a graphics card btw, like my PC is shity

warped thorn Jul 6, 2018, 10:38 AM

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Voice chat can gobble up on your bandwidth on it's own too!

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:39 AM

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@tough mesa it doesn't help for sure

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:39 AM

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That won't help

tough mesa Jul 6, 2018, 10:39 AM

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I know, sorry

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When I had my other internet everything worked fine, I was able to play the game perfectly

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I might just get a new internet thingy or upgrade it

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:40 AM

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@warped thorn they've reduced the bitrate though ;)

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Oof

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http://imgur.com/gallery/tplHOos

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I never thought voice chat was a big consumer

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I always felt like it was more of the updates the game had to do because character movement

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 10:42 AM

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voice chat is awful in vrc

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:43 AM

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Really?

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It sounds okay

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Better than the old csgo voice codec

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 10:43 AM

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not in that way

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it's okay

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but apparently it's really unoptimized

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:44 AM

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There is always worst :P than uspeak, it's okay

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:45 AM

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~~it could be teamspeak~~

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:45 AM

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you're not supposed to use it with a potato pc and a dialup internet ^^

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:45 AM

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VC is always awefully optimized within games if they want to make minium delay

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Project cars in VR is pretty dope

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:45 AM

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there are games that just pick for a ~1 second delay when speaking (a minimum delay) just to make things go smooth(er)

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Same goes for Euro truck sim

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I almost forgot that Euro Truck Simulator had VR

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:46 AM

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And in VRC case... Id expect it to be optimized honstly but it still takes a lot of CPU then..
But if you also throw the tracking on it and then everything else also? with one core?...

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:47 AM

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For as long as VRCs been out, you think it'd be a little more optimized

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Maybe they just expect everyone to have the minimum standards for VR

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Because steamVR

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Well if your below the minimum specs from the game you imo should not complain if it laggs...

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:48 AM

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they do not pretend it to be a release candidat Valleybars, still an Alpha/beta stage, so

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:48 AM

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If your above it like most with Vr and then lagg... Well...

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:48 AM

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Well to be honest, VRC doesn't need crazy specs to run

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Unless you're using VR

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Desktop mode runs like any other unity game

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~~at least it's not yandere simulator with its optimization~~

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:49 AM

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which is the target, "VR" chat :P

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run the android version on your PC and you'll be more than ok :P

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:54 AM

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A... Android?

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Eh?

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:56 AM

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what? :)

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Is there a way to set a partical limiter for like the game

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Iv been crashed 3 times today already

tranquil vortex Jul 6, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Shit outta luck

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SagiriMeh

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 10:56 AM

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Rip

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Realy wish this would be fixed

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Uuuu no?

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Your not shit outa luck

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:57 AM

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you need to enable the limiter @worn slate you'll find a link and a howto in #announcements

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 10:58 AM

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Sweet ill do that now, thanks

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:58 AM

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https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-particle-system-limits

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Does not remove all odds for crashers but it does kill the largest grop

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM

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Dose it lower the chance though

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM

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not sure but it's a start right

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM

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And if you get crashed-- do not reboot the game but instead get the output log first
submit it towards moderation@vrchat.com with as much information as you know and then play further with them about to be banned GWchiakiVanillaPray

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM

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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 10:59 AM

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And it should if you set it up right--

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 11:00 AM

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In theory, yes. Assuming the offending user is abusing particle systems in order to crash vrchat.

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 11:00 AM

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^ As to why i said not all odds but most odds of being crashed

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 11:00 AM

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Oh i take screen shots of the people that do it, but ill start coppying logs

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 11:02 AM

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I talked to some crashers, they said that noone they know uses particle systems anymore

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Report them first

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:02 AM

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when they'll figure out the particles is not the way to make ppl rage anymore, they'll switch to something else

umbral reef Jul 6, 2018, 11:02 AM

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And there are groups that still do

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 11:02 AM

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I only report soneone if they crash me / get on my nerves

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If they have the stuff and leave me alone its none of my business

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 11:03 AM

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If it's clear someone is causing other user's clients to crash, or causes you to crash, here's what to do:
If vrchat has crashed, leave it closed.
Grab your output log
send an email to moderation@vrchat.com and attach the log to the email. Mention any relevant usernames.
Now you're free to start vrchat again.

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!outputlog

floral flaxBOT Jul 6, 2018, 11:03 AM

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You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

worn slate Jul 6, 2018, 11:06 AM

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I think for now on ima just record all my game play

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:13 AM

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shadowplay have an instant replay, recording only the last x minutes if i'm not wrong, could be helpful

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 11:14 AM

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Yep

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Unfortunately that requires you to install the Geforce experience spyware

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:15 AM

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yes a shame

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 11:19 AM

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That's also a good idea. Any system that constantly records and keeps x minutes can be very useful in case of moderation-related incidents.

Plus it's also a great way to save those lovely memories if your friends acting like total idiots. 😄

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:21 AM

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yes clearly, i don't know if someone else did it already appart from Nvidia, maybe some free or opensource gems out there? The best would be an OBS plugin, i'll check

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 11:23 AM

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I believe OBS does have such a feature too.

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:24 AM

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sad :\

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 11:25 AM

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Yep, it's called the Replay Buffer.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-classic-how-to-use-the-replay-buffer.103/

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:28 AM

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it does exist then! great!

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here for studio : https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-setup-instant-replay-in-obs-studio.613/

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@rough pulsar thanks great stuff

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 11:55 AM

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oh so we installing black boxes now nikothonk

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 11:57 AM

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always was an option :), it saves space with this method

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Vrchat developer update: we have added a black box feature that records the last 5 minutes of gameplay in the native headset resolution.
This feature can be enabled by opening the in game menu and checking "black box" in the settings.

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:02 PM

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lol

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it would be a user choice, so yeah why not :P, but i'm not sure about the storage cost for such a solution ;)

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unless you do it client side hmm (for the storage i mean)

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:11 PM

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well i doesn't need to be super hi bit rate or even hi fps, witch will cut on the storage cost

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:11 PM

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true

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:12 PM

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but that will stress the processor even more witch potato PCs really dont need more of Lul

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:13 PM

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no doubt about that, as long there is an opt-in opt-out it's not really an issue i guess

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:13 PM

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using obs while running vrchat makes my entire pc run at 1 fps

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a black box incorporated would be easier on potato systems

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Potato PC :D

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:14 PM

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because the cpu doesnt have to split the effort between two intrusive apps

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:14 PM

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oh and it could even stop rendering stuff entirely nikopogchamp

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:14 PM

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^

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tried to record my vrc to show people how shitty it is

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2 minutes of the exact same frame

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choppy and extremely low quality too

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Vrchat powerpoint edition?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:15 PM

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js

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make it incorporated

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Make it upload server side so only you can access your records

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like GenTool

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:16 PM

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Advert_no

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:16 PM

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it has an anti-spyware system

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that uploads the replay of your game to the server

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:16 PM

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that would be a lot of stress on vrc servers

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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clearly

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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the recording should be client side

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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they already have the stress of being accessed by script kiddies

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Bandwidth wise too

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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^

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:17 PM

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but it would be space intensive too

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not everyone has a 1tb ssd

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or an ssd

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or a 200 gb hdd

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YOU GET THE POINT

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:18 PM

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200gb floop

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:18 PM

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my monthly Wi-Fi capacity is 300gb

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people who have unlimited disgust me

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

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reserve 1Gb more than reasonable, when you think Vrchat used more than "no limit" storage before

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

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but steam has vrchat on my C drive

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which has about .5gb left in storage

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

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move it ^^

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

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how the fuck

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

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symlink

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:20 PM

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implying I know what that is

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😂

ocean bramble Jul 6, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Symlinks are beautiful

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:20 PM

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so if it were to be server side 999 players would fit on a 1tb SSD

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:20 PM

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Linux fan @ocean bramble ?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:21 PM

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but i dont have a linux

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who uses Linux except for os devs

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:21 PM

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umm more peps

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:22 PM

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isn't linux literally MsDos

ocean bramble Jul 6, 2018, 12:22 PM

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@thorny totem No, works on Windows as well

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Linux/Unix (MacOSX for ex ;) )@vocal shard

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:22 PM

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don't you have to run everything through some command prompt

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if yes then it's MsDOS

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:23 PM

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yes i know, but people who love symlinks are often Linux fans, stupid thought though ;) @ocean bramble

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:23 PM

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https://imgur.com/ov5QsX0
huehue

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:23 PM

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bad boy XD

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i have 3 of them :P (one being a phone)

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pentesting station only though

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:25 PM

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rip neighborhood wifi

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:25 PM

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:D

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deauth are busted in minutes, careful

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:25 PM

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nah deauth is when peps come on my network

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giving them the boot

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:26 PM

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~~but I still don't know what a symlink is tho~~

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:26 PM

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im replacing photos, real stuff RealShit

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:26 PM

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proxy wizard, i see

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or injecting?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:27 PM

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injection

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:27 PM

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ok bad boy indeed =P

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:27 PM

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actually both when I'm bored nikothonk

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arent symlinks like quick access to anther file ?

ocean bramble Jul 6, 2018, 12:30 PM

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I use a symlink to program cats on Blender 2.79 and 2.8 simultaneously

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:30 PM

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synbolic links -> you physically move a folder in a differente place/drive and replace it by a "shortcut" symbolic link, the system see the shortcurt as if it was the folder itself (transparent for the system) @vocal shard

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:31 PM

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oh yeah did that to my vrc cache folder

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:31 PM

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in a nutshell

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:31 PM

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and what kind of rig that needs?

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say Windows 10 and I'll immediately drop it

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:31 PM

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snot sure if it works properly tho DynamicThinking

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:32 PM

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whatever the rig @vocal shard even your PC can do it

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:32 PM

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but how

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need I install some sort of 700mb software

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:33 PM

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command lines

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:33 PM

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not gonna do it

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bye

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:33 PM

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i think there is some GUI to do it out there

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wait let me look

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:33 PM

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I'll just uninstall vrchat and install it in my new library

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also won't it take a fuckton of cpu

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:35 PM

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no

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here an easy one, http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:36 PM

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i got my laptop taken away so I'll try it some other time

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:36 PM

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sure

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:37 PM

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if it burns, melts and explodes (in that order) then dont blame me tho

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:37 PM

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so this is literally made for steam games nikogigalul

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o shet

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shouldnt have ctrl a them

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 PM

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it won't, the worst thing that could happen is the game or app stop working, in that case just delete the symlink and move the folder back (some reg keys also if you do it manually) / or use the interface to revert it @vocal shard

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 PM

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not responding LUL

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:39 PM

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you know I'm not gonna risk it

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i had another 2001 pc that combusted, melted and exploded (in that order)

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:40 PM

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o wait no no

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its a problem on my end

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accidentaly selected my gpu driver

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nikosweats

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:40 PM

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wait

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you can store shit in your gpu?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:41 PM

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normally no

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 12:41 PM

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explains

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Am I the only one having issues launching VRC? Already, uninstalled, reinstalled, restarted steam and my comp and still won't launch

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:41 PM

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but who knows what peps might come up with to access the gpu ram

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LUL

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:42 PM

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the hackers holy graal GPUs, there is some exploits out there, but limited

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:43 PM

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nikothonk

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ok error 32 presumably because the driver was running in the background witch stopped the transfer operation

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nothing to worry about

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:45 PM

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@raven stump any errors?

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:46 PM

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none. just doesn't respond when launched. Freezes at white screen

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:46 PM

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what kind of pc/graphic card?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:47 PM

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well it worked before right ?

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:47 PM

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I can run it, 900+ hours. this is just the first time I've had this

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someone said to try to clear cache so I'm going to try that first

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:47 PM

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have you tried what's in here #vrchat-support

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:48 PM

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wait a clean install doesn't delete the cache?

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:48 PM

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cache most likely, but who knows

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:49 PM

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Idk

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can confirm, clean install doesn't clear cache

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:50 PM

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oof Oof

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tupper plz fix

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:50 PM

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nope, still instantly not responding

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NotLikeThis

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:51 PM

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restart your pc

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:51 PM

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TupperHands

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 12:51 PM

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again? NotLikeThis

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:51 PM

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yes

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:52 PM

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oh god nononononon

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:52 PM

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what?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:52 PM

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windows defender got a false positive on the steam mover

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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really?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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now its trying to delete it

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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oof

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gg wp windows

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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nooo my filesss!!

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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...yeah no comments

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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thats why i have the windows defender disabled 😄

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:53 PM

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if you want the command line just ask though

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:54 PM

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nikosaddest

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damit it deleted it without my consent

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:55 PM

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doesnt it have a quarantine or sth like that?

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:55 PM

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nop

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:55 PM

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wow, screw the defender

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:55 PM

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it just deletes it

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it has a "restore function"

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but that fuks the program into oblivion

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:56 PM

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this is like, my house is dirty, better go buy a new one

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:56 PM

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yeah life saver for some even if it restrict a lot, better be annoyed than sorry if you're not a poweruser

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 12:57 PM

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i actually dont want to know how many bits get corrupted by restoring 😄

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@thorny totem ive used avira for so damn long and its just been helpful

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a few ads in my right lower corner and thats about it

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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nah i'm not using this things :P

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Does anyone know what avatars don't load once I'm in a world :/?

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why*

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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o damit i cant find the god dam disable option

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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ids and statefull packets scanning and life become easy (put a box between you and the world and voila)

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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When I first join in everything loads fine but once people change or new people join new avatars don't load

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:00 PM

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something to do with your cache i suppose test this #vrchat-support

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Oh hai Chipp! Long time no see

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:01 PM

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henlo helton

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GWnanamiRokaWave

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I kinda quit because of the same problem I just described

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Oh...

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:02 PM

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um ill follow that long list of instructions and if that won't work I'll send an email I guess

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:02 PM

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yes

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:02 PM

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https://imgur.com/JaqYAkD
finally

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:02 PM

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What about sending an email first?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:03 PM

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Ok I followed the non-manual part

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guess ill check if it works noiw

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now

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Can confirm the issue is definitely VR related

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Launches in desktop fine

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:04 PM

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The issue is that it's almost like vrchat just shuts off my internet connection when I play 🤷

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When in a room, it's like I have no internet connection

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can't open/change chrome and steam tabs, send messages in discord etc

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I can still talk to people in vrchat and see new people joining a world but then avatars don't load

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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too much traffic by vrc?

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Oculus? Vive? @raven stump again which graphic card again?

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Vive, 1050, settings: Desktop low

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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drivers ver? @raven stump

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 1:05 PM

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one sec

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Elevator music can be heard ElectroSwinger

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 1:06 PM

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LUL

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:06 PM

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@stable aurora do you have enough HDD space?

raven stump Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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397.93

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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I have no idea what that means :p

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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insert savvy discord loading line

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hackspanner

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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feeding developers

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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@raven stump try with the last set of drivers? just a test

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:07 PM

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@stable aurora do u have space on your drive?

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sorry my keyboard is lagging on mobile

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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yep

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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hm

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you know I have that problem too, just not with the avatars

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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i don't think the issue is that my cache is too full or something like that

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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yep meaning? how much? @stable aurora

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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when using vrc nothing else works

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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36 gb free in my C drive

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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but that's the dl speed most likely

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:08 PM

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ok fine indeed

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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825 in my D drive which is where I believe I installed vrchat

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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d-damn

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one terabyte hdd

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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If only I could donate some of that empty space to my C drive

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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I'm physically hurt

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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lul 1 Tb is smol

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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you cleaned your cache then restarted your PC just after right? @stable aurora

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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I probably could but too dumb to do it

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umm I have not restarted my pc yet

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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1tb
small

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:09 PM

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yes

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ive got 8 TB and those are almost full

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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it seems I have the connection issue still

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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lemme guess you also have unlimited Wi-Fi

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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I'm in the hub and I can't open chrome tabs or switch

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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LAN

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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yep

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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and 5 cutting edge pcs

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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nah

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my pcs alright

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i just have the space

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and yes, nowadays 1 TB is literally small

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:10 PM

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which you spent money that could feed a nation on

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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probably 🤷🏻

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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I imagine you'd need quite a bit of space if you were creating avatars and stuff

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I'd be fine with like 300 gb tbh

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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that's why I hate anyone with a 1tb drive

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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lmao

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go with the time

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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i create avatars with only 200gb

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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SSD of course

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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on my entire pc

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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mine still works fine https://imgur.com/sC9Ua3V

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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hdd

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:11 PM

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i dont create avatars only lul?

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i play fucking games

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do you know how big some of em are

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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so idk

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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dem drive names tho 😂

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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please don't say you're one of those people who spend thousands in steam sale

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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mmm imma restart my pc

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continue trying to fix this connection error

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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thanks

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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no, i spend thousands outside of steam sales

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:12 PM

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stop

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@stable aurora see ya in 5 minutes

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i can only be so disgusted

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 1:13 PM

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LUL

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:13 PM

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Lmao and im having a great time

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lets go on

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:13 PM

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like

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:16 PM

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henlo

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im back

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Yee

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:16 PM

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same?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:16 PM

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yeet

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wait i haven't launched vrc yet

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1 sec imma get off my guitar chair this thing isn't comfortable

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:17 PM

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make some coffee since you're at it :P

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:17 PM

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☕

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:17 PM

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ty

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:18 PM

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nope instantly dead

#

initial avatars loaded, now i can't open tabs again

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ya new avatars aren't loading either

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:19 PM

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could you do a steam files integrity check?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:19 PM

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should i close the game before doing the check

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:19 PM

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yes

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:20 PM

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ok 1 file failed to be validated and will be re-acquired

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lets check if that was the issue

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:20 PM

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ok

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:22 PM

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It's an F

#

this time the game couldn't even load all the avatars in time

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Guess I'll send an email

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:22 PM

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hmm yes good idea

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:23 PM

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appreciate you trying to help though kane 🙏

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:24 PM

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thing i would still do in the mean time, is to delete the cache again and restart once more, since a file was corrupted for some reason

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but that's just me eh ;)

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yw

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:26 PM

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is the support team usually responsive

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or will it take a couple days for a response

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:27 PM

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can't say never tested

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:28 PM

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hmmm interesting note my connection seems to work

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as i load up a world

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perfectly fine

coral steppe Jul 6, 2018, 1:32 PM

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is there perhaps a list of people, who intentionally crash others?

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 PM

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no, because if vrc knows theyre doing it theyll be banned 😂

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i know some community servers do though

coral steppe Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 PM

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well, i have done 2 reports

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 PM

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the loli army discord has a big list of users i think

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 PM

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i think at this point only your logs could show the reason assuming you did the minimal required cleaning cache + filescheck + reboot @stable aurora

coral steppe Jul 6, 2018, 1:33 PM

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and today i found 4 more people

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annoying pink penguin form with text: NO ANIME and playing loud music

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music that greates sort of sound waves

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:34 PM

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this is real funky man

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The issue isn't happening right now?

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I'm testing out a bunch of things

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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ok

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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did a 2nd clear and check

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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@coral steppe i met someone who crashed me and played minecraft music earrape

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:35 PM

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maybe it only starts when i load into public worlds

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though it wasn't happening in the hub earlier

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:36 PM

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nah wouldn't make sense, it's certainly just fixed :)

coral steppe Jul 6, 2018, 1:54 PM

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a lot of annoying people, a lot

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:55 PM

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ok

#

definitely not fixed

#

:s

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Idk it's like sometimes when I enter certain worlds it just starts happening

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:55 PM

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which one?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:55 PM

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pug

#

is it crashing avatars?

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that just kill my connection when I try and load them in

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

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could be

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

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I'll send a ticket anyways

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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is it all pug instances or a particular one?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 1:57 PM

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I have no clue

#

the connection issue has happened to me in the past in different worlds

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so I assume it's not actually specific avatars but rather maybe a corrupted file that only starts acting up when I try and load new avatars maybe 🤷

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 2:00 PM

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yes definitely a cache issue, but why i can't point it like that

fading owl Jul 6, 2018, 2:01 PM

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I mean i cant play in the pug anyway

#

Its way too laggy

stone moth Jul 6, 2018, 2:02 PM

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Does anyone know if the OpenVRInput fix for joystick movement was fixed? Or another method to get full movement with the joysticks? On wmr.

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Please @ me or dm me. Have to go back to work

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Are video temp files still stored in the History.IE5?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:36 PM

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video temp files?

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:36 PM

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Prior to the recent update, any world that streamed videos would just annihilate my hard drive

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:37 PM

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oh you mean the youtube_downloader_dl

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i avoid any world that streams anything or plays music so idk

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but video temp files don't last outside the instance do they?

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sweats while thinking of the almost full C drive

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:40 PM

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I know they did before the update

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:40 PM

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well

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i no longer visit video worlds

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i can't help

#

sorry

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:40 PM

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I spend a lot of time in one and I had 40g of temps, a friend had 80g

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:41 PM

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well

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going into any world that has a video screen made the entire world nothing but a black screen for me and about 17 or 23 youtube_downloader_dl processes in task manager

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vrchat stop coddling streamers and fix your game

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 3:45 PM

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blaming vrchat devs for world creators that implement tons of videos cirMini

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:46 PM

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they shouldn't make the youtube_downloader_dl be able to start another instance of itself while the first one is unresponsive

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:47 PM

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There's official worlds with videos, even looping one video would fill

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:47 PM

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they could limit it to 1 per video screen but I get 28

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yes the number gets higher by the minute

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the whole way the youtube_dl works makes me feel it was made by a kid in gamemaker

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"instance not working? lol just start another one

the other one not working? let's start another one!"

rigid crescent Jul 6, 2018, 3:49 PM

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I doubt most users know a out the temps

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:50 PM

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i would be happy if they made the reboot instance have a killswitch

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to terminate the first one

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and not boost my cpu to 170% while it's already at 100% in empty worlds

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vrchat boasts about their game being able to run even on a toaster

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yet they keep making it more gravitated to people with i9s and 1080tis

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 3:55 PM

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if you want a well optimized game, come back when this game is released

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 3:59 PM

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i would be satisfied if they tell us they're optimizing the game or admit they are aware of bugs and are working on them

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but all im seeing is them licking twitch's shoes

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:00 PM

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aha...

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:00 PM

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i wouldn't mind if it takes a year

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i just want to hear "we are aware of optimization issues and are working on them" in one of those developer updates

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:01 PM

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why especially in one of the updates?

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first of. it shold be a given and common sense

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:01 PM

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instead of "we put a new feature that will break your already weak system! yeah!"

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:01 PM

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then real focus on optimization is a thing done in the beta state

#

the alpha stage is where features are boosted

#

while in beta its about polishing the features and optimizing

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:02 PM

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but vrchat isn't even optimized

#

why are they in alpha already

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:02 PM

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it... is an early access alpha

#

you dont have to play it if you dont want to

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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then why aren't they adding the optimizing from the beta in the alpha

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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but they open it up for peopel who want to

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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i want to play it because I love the game

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but I dont idolize it

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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sigh

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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it has some major flaws everything does

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:03 PM

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"alpha already"
do you even know how game dev works? Alpha is literally the first phase of dev
Alpha -> Beta -> Full Release

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

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if everyone followed your logic they would've stopped playing when hackers got into vrchat

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

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and you dont focus on major optimization and refactoring in alpha

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

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^

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

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when the next freature could literally break months of optimization work

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

#

^^^

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

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but why add useless features when your system barely supports them

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 PM

#

the biggest optimization we propably gonna see is unity 2018, before we reach beta state

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@vocal shard this is an alpha stage game..

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:05 PM

#

you don't find me downloading farcry 5 on a 2001 pc

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even if ill upgrade it later

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the game won't work anymore

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:05 PM

#

you are complaining about optimization in an incomplete, unfinished early access game

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:05 PM

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im not complaining its not optimized

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i want them to at least acknowledge it and not pretend it runs perfectly fine on any system

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:06 PM

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they... dont

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cirLaugh

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:06 PM

#

they do

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:06 PM

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who's pretending it runs perfect??

#

Where have they claimed that their game runs perfect?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:06 PM

#

the requirements are for minimum vr

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:06 PM

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** sigh **

#

im out

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:07 PM

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they literally ripped them from the vive sale page are you kidding me

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:07 PM

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Those are placeholder since the game isn't finished yet. You can't plan for min specs if you don't have a finished game

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:07 PM

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then why put it in early access

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you dont put something in early access unless it's semi done at least

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:08 PM

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thats not how EA works...

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:08 PM

#

they barely have anything from what you two say

#

EA isnt a game dev

#

it's a scam company

#

they make fucking mobile games

lilac swan Jul 6, 2018, 4:09 PM

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@vocal shard https://youtu.be/sst9GZAZBDU?t=706
You mean like in the latest dev blog?

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:09 PM

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EA is paying to play early builds of the game while it's still in development.

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:09 PM

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are you comparing dungeon keeper mobile to vrchat

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because that's a big stretch

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:10 PM

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When you download an EA game you are signing up to basically be a playtester

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:10 PM

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oh so youre telling me EA

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who bought 75 per cent of indi studios

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Oh come on Rin get real "why putting it in early access" the game works, it not like you only have picture to look at. And early access is the best way to debug and test a game when you are a small or indie studios hmmm

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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releases unfinished games

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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EA in this context = Early Access

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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The game work, will it work properly on a P4, no, was never the target

lilac swan Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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So you saying they don't acknowledge the performance issues is just false

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Not the scum known as ElectronicArts

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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oh

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i kinda mixed them up

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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"Early access, also known as early funding, alpha-access, or paid-alpha, is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can pay for a game in the various development cycles (pre-alpha, alpha, beta) and obtain access to the pre-full release versions of the game, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue work on the game."

meager rose Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Early access is for unfinished games

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:11 PM

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Understandable, considering how shitty EA (game company) games are. :B

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:12 PM

#

still

#

didn't they have enough time to fix those issues already

#

instead we get even more overload

#

the game is going to be unplayable on anything less than i8 soon

#

and then they lose their playerbase

#

way to go

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:13 PM

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do you play the last AAA game on a toaster?

lilac swan Jul 6, 2018, 4:13 PM

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Shifting goal posts now? 😛 They literally said in the video almost 2 weeks ago next releases will be better optimized

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:13 PM

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i dont play AAA

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:13 PM

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way to over exaggerate just because you have a shitty pc

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:13 PM

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not a pc

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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what we talkin about

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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then what, a laptop? thats even worse

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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they always say that

meager rose Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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If I recall correctly a big issue is that it heavily relies on the processor and only uses 1 or 2 cores. I could be wrong about that though

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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they always say they will optimize better

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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no, you're right Brandon

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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GWtogaTheSaddest

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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but do they optimize?

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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So I'm in the upper end of VR capable systems (gtx1080, i7, etc) so I'm usually one of the last people who feel performance hits, but a lot of vrchat's 'performance problems' are almost 60% user-caused.

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:14 PM

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The game is pretty unoptimized and I don't see it changing

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@rough pulsar then why doesn't the SDK enforce proper limits to stop users from lagging the game?

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And it's definitely not just the users

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The IK and voice systems are both stupidly heavy

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Why do we have a 20k poly limit but no material limit

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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complain to the dev team not discord mods

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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disabling avatars makes my game run like magic

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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eheh i'll seat this one out and eat some popcorn :P

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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GWnanamiLaceShrug

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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but no it's my problem I have a shitty pc lole

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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Even though the devs already know that materials cause lag and polys don't necessarily

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 4:15 PM

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wooh whats happening?

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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people spilling salt

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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A while back I was at a birthday party and we had the upside of 30 or so people in one world and even those of us on the weaker systems still had a fairly decent time because the world was properly built.

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Rin if disabling avatars makes your game run like magic then thats a user issue, since ya know, avatars are user created and uploaded

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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nah Rin getting mad because Pentium 4...

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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i3

cold talon Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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came to see whats been going on
first thing i see
SEVERAP PEOPLE ARE TYPING

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:16 PM

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not Pentium 4 that's my pc

stable aurora Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Several people are typing... increases

strong hedge Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Any body having the same issue I keep getting put in the ground and I can't do anything

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@floral aspen not nesseseirly cus the default robot things dont have IK aswell

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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oh users design their IK?

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good to know

opaque remnant Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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they're working on a new IK system, no?

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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no, but people run around with 20 mats and shit tons of dyna bones

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yes, IK rework is in beta right now

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:17 PM

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Even with avatars blocked and in an optimized world, I get 10 FPS with 30 people around

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The IK and voice systems alone are enough to break me

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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What's your PC specs @median basalt and are you in VR?

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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The IK rework will probably not alleviate any of the performance issues

meager rose Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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For me any world that mr whiskers touches just freakin dies in terms of performance.

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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the IK rework is mainly for fixing FBT issues

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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@rough pulsar my CPU is fairly old, my GPU is good. I am in VR.

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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there is your issue

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CPU

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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I know my CPU is the problem, but that doesn't change the fact that the game is unoptimized. I have friends who are Oculus users with stupidly good CPU's, and they drop to 25 in very populated worlds

thorny totem Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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@strong hedge it's either your model or your VR floor setting?

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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@strong hedge your aavatar Is below the map, raise it in the riggin screen or remove any gesture from the idle position

median basalt Jul 6, 2018, 4:18 PM

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A small part of it is also that the game does not support the Oculus API natively which adds extra work for the CPU

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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will be comming back

opaque remnant Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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games are usually optimized towards end of development. keeping a balance of doing optimization and introducing new features is not an easy task

ruby needle Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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some when this year

floral aspen Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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it's unoptimized because it's unfinished. If the game reaches 1.0 and is still unoptimized then you can complain

rough pulsar Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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The 'unoptimized' is unity 5.6's inability to offload certain things from the main thread. Something unity 2017 and onwards can do.

vocal shard Jul 6, 2018, 4:19 PM

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also there is no multithreading support