have a look at what Intel is doing on VR video (not real time), and it take like 3GB per frame to render
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
We will just have to wait for Oculus 3.. Since how Oculus 2 is being advertised pretty promisingly
thorny totem
the tech sound good indeed
vocal shard
And since Oculus 2 costs 1000 $, Oculus 3 might cost 2500 $
So save up and get the good stuff
winged quartz
vocal shard
So... How is JoJo doing for ya? @winged quartz
ruby needle
@vocal shard nothing about the oculus 2 is know that thing that was shown was the prototype 2
except i missed any new FACTS
ruby needle
no balls 
winged quartz
why no balls
ruby needle
isn't that what you say 
winged quartz
No 
vocal shard
Nope ๐คฃ , that's a special term ๐
@winged quartz no, that's not how you show that JoJo is having an effect on you, you can show by telling how you greet people
rapid heath
nah...he's just punching someone on the left while looking at you...
signal wren
I made a custom avatar idal aniamtion but her body is half way threw the ground how do I fix that?
Like I raised her body in Unity but in Vrchat her body is half way in the ground
umbral reef
Can you show the elements within the animation itself?
umbral reef
Also you did not make the animation on the avatar you uploaded right?
umbral reef
Its a bit usefull if you say if you are within VR or not
signal wren
Who are you talking too X_X
iron jacinth
Yes in vr
umbral reef
@signal wren The avatar questions towards you and the VR question towards starman
What VR though starman
signal wren
When I made the animation I made it threw animation
umbral reef
Just send a photo..
signal wren
I can't on here xD
umbral reef
Also lets move to the #avatars-2-general channel
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 5691 users in VRChat currently
iron jacinth
I look at the cube and it does nothing
umbral reef
So an WMR headset
Welp sadly i do not know anything about how they work within VRC so i cant help on that
Could try starting up the game again
signal wren
can I just send it too you because I can't post any imgs
umbral reef
Upload it towards imgur and send it in #avatars-2-general
iron jacinth
Yeah it's a wmr
umbral reef
If i dont see the problems others might and i dislike working in dm's
iron jacinth
Should work the same
The controllers work
IDK
How do I get this height to work
It just says look at ze cube
gusty adder
hm
is there a limit to how many trackers the HTC vive could support theoretically?
I know only around 3 are necessary (hips and two legs)
But was just curious
gusty adder
Hm
vocal shard
vive 2.0 lighthouses will be able to do up to 4
but there is a software limit atm on quantity of position updates. I.e. camera limit
Its like a softlock to what a CPU can handle without beginning to get floating errors. Not necessarily overburdened, but data skewing.
vocal shard
having 4 lighthouses will certainly help with dead spots, especially for people with full body who have trackers way down on the floor. It won't help accuracy much at all, since you are already accurate unless you've lost tracking. It will be especially helpful for the niche audience who have two people in the play space, occluding light houses.
I have friends who are pretty deep in the vr business
which is ironic since I don't own one
polar jasper
If you search Vive Tracker Demo (7 trackers) on youtube they are testing it with 7 trackers
gusty adder
Head, controllers for two hands, tracker for hips, two trackers for legs, where else would any go though?
polar jasper
So 7 body trackers, 2 controllers, 1 head
gusty adder
Elbows/torso/etc? Or splitting leg into like knees and feet?
thin wyvern
Alright so I have a question about avatar security and I'm not sure which channel to use, should it be fine posting here or should i swap to #avatars-2-general ?
vocal shard
does the question tie in with the trust system or is it the avatar itself?
thin wyvern
Avatar itself
vocal shard
you want ways to protect your avatar yes?
vocal shard
then we should probably take it to #avatars-2-general
dont wanna hijack this channel
thin wyvern
Kk ty
tacit plank
It's warm, but it shouldn't be harmful to the GPU
ivory folio
which logs are we supposed to send if we get crashed by someone?
vocal shard
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
ivory folio
I sent that saying I was crashed but I just get an automated response
telling me the obvious steps that are already stated here
vocal shard
did you see the person who crashed you?
do you have a username?
or at least a distinct feature of the avatar they're using?
ivory folio
sometimes I see them, sometimes not
ivory folio
yeah that's why I don't bother reporting
vocal shard
just record the times when you join public rooms
ivory folio
not wasting my time doing that
vocal shard
i cant since horrible specs but its a great idea
you can always catch them
or
be a smart person and dont join public rooms because theyre literal cancer and full of hackers
its like
going on facebook and randomly friending everyone on the suggestions list
ivory folio
nah public is fine, I can immediately tell who is a hacker/griefer
vocal shard
i got 5 avatars stolen in public rooms
when vrpill bans steam accounts ill bother joining a public room
theyre like those disposable minecraft accounts people use for hacking
download a steam client, mod it and go mad with it, get banned and then use another steam account, redownload and mod the client, rinse and repeat
hasty wedge
or u could just not care about someonr using a model u got off the internet 
hasty wedge
u usee tools u got from thr internet
vocal shard
oh
hasty wedge
checkmate
hasty wedge
oof
hasty wedge
no u
vocal shard
cant interrupt that
vitamin gummies are the best
especially those that look like bears
vocal shard
especially those that look like bears
tis ok
if i could id give you those gummie vitamin bears
hasty wedge
quaint hare
๐
vocal shard
yes what can we do for you
languid beacon
my friend has a grey speaker icon with an x after his name. i can't hear him. i checked to make sure he is not blocked, muted, or turned down, he us not. on friends list he has an X as well. other people can hear him, what does the icon mean?
ivory folio
that icon means you've muted them, might be a bug
vocal shard
Anyone have Dragonball FighterZ models?
arctic cradle
You know what we should all do?
Become bestest friends and meet up in vrchat
๐
vocal shard
gay
ivory folio
vocal shard
Add me on VRChat tho ๐
timid dragon
Where can i report when some hacker stole my avatar
Cuz theres no report button wtf
ruby needle
there is a button
timid dragon
Where
ruby needle
at least to call a mod
umbral reef
ivory folio
that's pointless, report them with the google form in #moderation-reports
ruby needle
and yeah, else that
ruby needle
i mean reporting is one thing
but it can only provide the logs as prove
for that session
vocal shard
okay, makes sense
ruby needle
i belive there will be something like that in a later game stage
but with a report you want more then the logs
if the user doesnt tell you waht happend what do you look for?
so it needs a text form too
ruby needle
"stole" the thing how it works as far as i understand is they can request to wear it via api calls, so they dont really transfere anything
mainly they also trow it away after having anoyed you
vocal shard
Delete your blueprint id and re-upload it.
vocal shard
Basically, they made their client think you were an avatar pedestal. Same as an avatar world
timid dragon
Isnt tgere a way to fix that api request
rich latch
Hey, I just got an oculus (VRlet, I know.) and whenever I'm in an area VRchat does this where it freezes everything everything, shows a loading screen for like a second and then resumes like nothing happened. Happens about once every 5 seconds. Any ideas?
timid dragon
But they cant download it in any way or?
ruby needle
i know of favoriting (basically a local database always requesting the saved id)
but not transfering it to account
vocal shard
As far as i know they cant take it into like blender or unity to fuck with it
There is a hack where they can rip the files, but that is extremely rare. Most of the avatar stealers aren't able to save anything
ruby needle
cache/ram ripping is a other way of stealing shit
which is not really preventable at all
timid dragon
If i delete that avatar rn does he still have that
ruby needle
nobody can answere that question
vocal shard
I'm gonna guess that he can
timid dragon
Sry for asking that much but im pissed af
ruby needle
thats exactly what they want
vocal shard
If you delete the blueprint id. It will remove it form yours and theirs. You can reupload it with a new id
ruby needle
and when you are gone they take the next to piss of the next person
thorny totem
there is technic to rip it and get the model, but most of them are just using the ID trick
ruby needle
yes
cus they want to piss you of
not actually want the model and all the work to upload it them self
languid beacon
based on the conversations on this discord, if we all decided to meet in vrchat, we would all either A.) have broken avatars B.) testing out our new particle spam or C.) unable to log in because ban we were conplaining about
ruby needle
vocal shard
i only really get on vrchat to test/fix avatars
i need to go out and explore more worlds lol
What if we have broken particle spam avatars that made us get banned. Lll
rich latch
Who can I talk to about microstuttering in VRchat when using a HMD?
vocal shard
It's happening to everyone i think. On the bugs thread, i think tupper said they were looking into it...
ruby needle
sounds like cpu capping
versed stratus
yeah it was bad for me too, so I left :/
vocal shard
It happens to me whenever my computer's memory caps up to like 90 to 100 percent
but calms down afterwards
versed stratus
I got 16GB and was alone in my bar ๐
tacit wing
does anyone know where i can find a tutorial on activating animations on objects (not the avatar) on a gesture?
i tried asking in animation but that place is more dead than a stone.
thorny totem
what do you want to do exactly?
vocal shard
Like... World objects? Or an object attached to your avatar? What do you mean?
mystic locust
yo guys
vocal shard
Hey
mystic locust
has anyone in vrchat uploaded their own avatar
vocal shard
Make sure you have the correct version of unity and the sdk
mystic locust
how long do i have to wait
ruby needle
Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
vocal shard
You need to actually play
Ah... The age old wait question. We don't know
You cant just afk in a world and go to sleep
vocal shard
Rip
mystic locust
rip
thorny totem
@tacit wing calling out people dead stones, when you take ages to answer...hmmm DUDE.
mystic locust
well thanks
thorny totem
ok
tacit wing
so i have a chaingun i want to add to a character
however it came with its own animations, lacks an animator, but has an armature,
and it comes as a multistage kinda thing where it's folded up
then there are animation where it unfolds, fires, etc.
I don't know how to trigger those animations on a gesture
ivory folio
I think you need to put an animator on the minigun to be able to animate it
thorny totem
as long as your object is attached to your model you deal with it like all other animation what's the problem?
tacit wing
the problem is that it doesnt have an animator
so when i try to 'animate it' it just goes "OH ITS MISSING YOU NUMBNUT
thorny totem
add one
tacit wing
How do i do that?
ivory folio
does it have an animator component?
tacit wing
it has an armature, but i don't know how to add an animator to it
well, yes it does have an animator component****
but it doesnt actually have pieces that you can move with the animator in the animation tab
ivory folio
so are these built in animations?
ivory folio
so the fbx of the weapon has .anim files attached to it?
tacit wing
do you want me to send you an fbx of the chaingun to look at it?
yeah it has anim files attached to it
i duplicated them outside of it so i could copy the keyframes but i ran into this problem
ivory folio
yeah send it to me, i'll have a look
tacit wing
at this point, i think the only way i can actually animate it is to have it be duplicated 3 different times with 3 different animation controllers .-.
thorny totem
My brain still don't get what exactly is your issue hmm
tacit wing
yeah im terrible at explaining the issue because i dont understand it my self
thorny totem
i got that, i'm a bit tired too which doesn't help either
tacit wing
wait...
oh god
Im so stupid
I can put animations that are not for the avatar in the customeroverride thingy oh my god
thorny totem
sure
tacit wing
so it literally doesnt matter if i dont have the animators, i can just use the animations for the chaingun inside the override ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
at least i think
ivory folio
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tacit wing
ima test it real quick
thorny totem
see why i don't compute ;)
tacit wing
never mind it doesnt work, because i cant activate it ( make it visible )
yeah i think controllers is just the way to go, atleast without causing massive headaches
thorny totem
make an animation for that -> making it visible
timid dragon
Can mods join in invite lobbys? xD
tacit wing
ah so it would be kind of like those two step guns
where one makes it visible, and the other has it fire
thorny totem
yes
ruby needle
yes Heathcliff
polar jasper
@timid dragon yes, but they don't just do it without a reason
polar jasper
Depends on what it is, but unless it's very important like life threatening, I would suggest you record what's going on and submit it using #moderation-reports
ruby needle
i belive that was a general question ๐
polar jasper
timid dragon
thorny totem
question: any avatar/character you really wish to see in VRChat, from a movie, comics or whatever?
uncut trail
Steam server went down RIP
thorny totem
MAINTENANCE: Seeing major #Steam connection manager servers downtime (at least 98% down). <- tweet
mystic locust
whats a good website to download avatars
polar jasper
deviantart
mystic locust
deaviant art?
vocal shard
They have plenty of models, but you need to do the settup to get them ready for vrchat
mystic locust
yh i know that
ruby needle
for mmd models dviant art, bowroll, and that other side i always forgett
Skechfab???
polar jasper
sketchfab too yea
ruby needle
Cats should also be able to work with XNA lara models
i think
it has an import button for it at least
vocal shard
Yeah... Most of us will suggest deviant art... But most of use use anime models. Lol. Sketchfab is probably better if yiu want more variety
mystic locust
what should i search
mystic locust
thy โค
ruby needle
and check the models for genitals on the texture
you want to remove that
its not allowed even if its hidden by cloths
mystic locust
ah okay
ruby needle
quite some MMD's have that
mystic locust
thanks
timid dragon
You could use it privately if you are alone in a world but... why would someone ๐
ruby needle
beeing alone in a world is not a private world ๐
as far as i know the only really allowed circumstance is beeing in a real private world. not a private instance of a public world!
timid dragon
Shhh if you are alone in a private world
ruby needle
do it 
ruby needle
reding the newst community guidlines tho it looks like its completely forbidden now
vocal shard
Feels bad
For the sixth time today someone has came up to me in game and told me that i sound disgusting
and i always pause in shock thinking theyre insulting my voice
and then i realize that my username is Turnip Soup
ruby needle
proven stream
oof
vocal shard
Lmao I once got super self conscious because some person ran up to me, said it, and immediately ran away and for like ten minutes i refused to speak
proven stream
I mean the first time I started up VRChat, I didn't know how to turn on the mic
So these guys started hitting on me and I felt very weird :V
vocal shard
Oof x2
proven stream
A question my dudes, but do you know where I'd be able to find where people create custom model commissions?
vocal shard
VRC Traders discord ๐
proven stream
I did a quick google search and got on the forum, but most peeps were doing edits
Mind dming me the link?
ruby needle
look into #community-servers-old
proven stream
owo๐ Thank ye
vocal shard
i am helpful
languid beacon
in their defense turnip soup sounds disgusting
vocal shard
cmon bruh
inner cape
I'm also always self consious because of my voice, it really gives a bad impression about me.
vocal shard
Someone told me that I sound semi-high all the time
proven stream
ikr
languid beacon
then again my early internet handle was meatballsoup
proven stream
My voice is very nasally so it's hard for peeps to understand me at times
vocal shard
I'm just kinda tired 24/7 lmao
And turnip soup isnt bad
It tastes like liquid salad, in a way
Which sounds disgusting thinking on it.
vocal shard
oof
inner cape
ruby needle
and that user is also now rather... unamused by the question "do you take requests?"
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
inner cape
Same
languid beacon
I'm sad in the 2 years i was away my name got deleted and reclaimed. nice short 5 letter name i snagged early too
versed yoke
Thats begging crashers to ruin your night
inner cape
I wish I could meet the person that got my name but I can't even find them on social...
languid beacon
yeah i'm "Adeon Writer" probably should change my name here
vocal shard
Ooh, you write?
languid beacon
nope, just a last name
languid beacon
i write code does that count
vocal shard
no
languid beacon
ah cool. i just chill on discord all day when i should be working. i'll get you this evening.
vocal shard
Alrightyyyy 
proven stream
Oof, I did not realize how expensive models would be :v
I was expecting like 60 - 70 for a model but some of them are pretty beyond that
inner cape
Depends really what you want
timid dragon
ah btw his name was xHELL_CODEx if anyone remember this name.... its a steam account btw didnt even know they could have something like custom avatars
ruby needle
but frankenstein is normaly ok
proven stream
Frankenstein is what you'd refer to models that are basically just different model parts put together?
ruby needle
yes
hasty wedge
spends 1 hour frankensteining in blender $200 btw
proven stream
*oof*
ruby needle
it is the same as the other message
Being allowed to upload is based on reaching a certain trust score which's exact algorithm is unknown to prevent exploitation.
You presumably need to play the game in a normal manner, walking around, meeting people and also makeing some friends. Idling wont help.
According to many responses in this discord the typical time it takes seems to be between 20-40 hours but big exceptions are possible.
Make sure you are not logged in to your steam account by accident and play the game until you get a notification or e-mail.
http://help.vrchat.com/knowledge_base/topics/why-cant-i-upload-avatars-or-worlds-yet
wont change 
shy nest
that should be pinned ngl
or maybe people should just learn to do some research before asking a stupid question 
ruby needle
pinging wont help
no one that would need the message would look at it
pining does not even work in the bug reports channel
its now more relaxed
but it was "CHECK THE PINS, NO SERIOUSLY CHECK THEM" for a longer periode
vocal shard
oof
inner cape
People were refusing to ask in public and insisted for mods to dm them for this question.
vocal shard
your passive aggressive words dont match ur profile pic deejay
languid beacon
i gotta admit the 20k limit seriously bugs me, and seeing public worlds aproved with >20K avatar pedistals makes me even more miffed about it while i bash my head on the limit all day
ruby needle
avatar worlds are to be taken carefully in that regard
avatars can be addet later when they use "empty" placeholder id's to upload avatars to later
or upade id's of older avatars
so the content might not have existed when it was checked
inner cape
Poly limit is there to reduce file size
Because they legit have to rent amazons servers for the game
ruby needle
thats btw a nice fact that is often forgotten
that polys are not just "look better" but also bloat the avatar's size
which means more space on the servers
londer download time
more ram usage
inner cape
More space required to rent from amazon
vocal shard
They should set the future proofing option off by default. It makes the file size so much larger, but people don't know that it's there
ruby needle
well it does exists for a reason most likely
maybe when we get the unity upgrade the future proveing might be helpfull
vocal shard
Iir, it uploads almost your entire unity project to make it easier to modify later. But with it off, it uoloads only whats nessisary, but updating your model could take longer
ocean bramble
vocal shard
Just send me any files that would completely skull fuck my computer
river drum
That moment you and all your vr friends get on vr chat and one friend gets the endless loading bug and tried to fix it for the 3hrs we all had fun =(
He never fixed it after following all the steps QQ
vocal shard
https://i.imgur.com/Wo2Uulq.jpg VR Anyone else having summer VR parties? 
covert chasm
If anyone has an AMD RX 400-500 series card, please ping me or SpookyBoogie, we need some testing done!
dark whale
thanks @covert chasm
deep moon
ban him
stole my avatar right in front of me.
course its a meme avatar but still, that is besides the point of the fact that he would have stolen commissions i have made for other people, or even my own commissions, all of which are worth real world money
@modern sand @covert chasm and @vocal shard
covert chasm
Please contact moderation@vrchat.com with whatever evidence and output logs you can provide.
This isn't the right place for this post ๐
deep moon
aight
thanks
i have at least 2 hackers who could use a good banning lol
had a total of 5 avatars stolen as of today lol
tupper would that be an email address or?
covert chasm
Yes ๐
deep moon
aight
small wing
I was going to ask if you plan on bringing the chairs back fairly soon? Im super giddy to try and make more avatars with interesting stuff.
deep moon
yea, had that "cough" trump meme, a mix of tyrion lannister and shrek stolen, lets see oh yea a detective kermit, which i think is now in that hackers world or something
some sick collection
and they do plan on adding them back
we dont know when
small wing
Yeah, i was hoping our lord an savior tupper would leak the info haha.
Cause im like super excited for them to come back
played with them before they got disabled. now i want to spawn in cars that people can drive
kinda like grand theft auto cheats in vrchat haha
deep moon
yea
i had a house @covert chasm i think you would get a kick out of it. thankfully that one isnt stolen. but yea, detective kermit with a full house that has a lit fireplace, and 3 chairs in the living room lol
was pretty cool.
ocean needle
@vocal shard apologise for the ping but are the same MP83 who made a bunch of payday 2 mods
vocal shard
Yes, that's me. It would explain why my VRChat world also has a NEKOPARA art gallery.
iron jacinth
Hi
How do I do the height calibration
It says to look at the cube
And I look at it and it does nothing
vocal shard
Is there something specific you'd want to ask/tell me, @ocean needle?
ocean needle
nah nah i wanted to ask cause i literally downloaded that mod like yesterday for payday 2
i was like "nah that cant be the same guy"
sorry about the @
vocal shard
@covert chasm Are you testing shader related stuff
Because a few of us on the shader discord have done some testing with AMD cards and might save you some time
Or I can get one of them with their cards to help you out
dark whale
@vocal shard that would be GREAT
vocal shard
Let me see if they're on :)
south viper
...thereโs a shader discord
halcyon ingot
south viper
I only use organically grown shaders (((
vocal shard
@dark whale I made a post and linked your discord - Is the issue only with that series of cards specifically? Our testing was just with AMD in general :s So can't guarantee they'll have one of those specifically.
dark whale
thats ok, worth passing anyone along using AMD.
ideal user is 400-500 series, and has old drivers. But curious to hear from everyone
iron jacinth
Omg can anyone help me
vocal shard
There is! It's more geared towards advanced shader development though; but I've seen your twitter! So check your invites :)
iron jacinth
The cube for calibration of height?
When u first start up it says
Let's calibrate your height!
And then it says look at the cube
tacit wing
idk
south viper
I learned that you can trigger some RPC from webpanel so I started thinking of a second way to make clocks
tacit wing
okay so
i found the problem of why my chaingun animations wont work
apparently
after making the avatar the parent of the chaingun
the transforms are 'diferent' because it's searching for them on the top of the hierarchy
is there any way to move them or make them look lower in the hierarchy or am i fucked
okay apparently there isnt
you need a tool that someone made in order to change the hierarchy of the animation keys lmao.
fuck my life, struggled for hours on this stupid shit
opal juniper
No you can manually rename them
They're looking for something called chaingun or whatever you have, you just need to rename that to armature/hips/etc/chaingun
@tacit wing
tacit wing
yeah i know that
but they're the Same name
the imgur i posted isnt a good example, because i used two different transforms
but basically the hierarchy is all moved forward
opal juniper
Oh so rename them and then rename the animation too
tacit wing
wait what?
i can rename it to the same name?
and it'll fix it?
like if it's "blah"
and i rename it back to "blah"
it'll reorient itself?
opal juniper
Err I might have misunderstood
What do you mean by having multiple?
Like in the duplicate on the bottom?
haughty mountain
So what's wrong with that Fever Dream world? I made it passed the part where you're not supposed to be seen by the lady but for some reason I couldn't find the way out.
Well, I did...
tacit wing
so the first and second keys are the exact same transform
opal juniper
So which one do you want to use?
tacit wing
nah i put that first one there to show how even if its the same name it wont use the animations because of hierarchy issues or whatever
opal juniper
Slow double click on it to rename and it'll show up as armature/hips/etc/chaingun
And just copy that path to the other one
You'll have to delete the first though
tacit wing
;o
opal juniper
It shows the name but you see how it's also much further to the right? That's showing that it's also got a whole path going to it
And you can manually rename that whole path
tacit wing
okay so when i rename that
does it transfer all the animation to that part
or for every :01 will i have to rename it
vocal shard
Hey can I ask a question here concerning tech with vrchat?
opal juniper
No it'll change the whole thing
lilac swan
go ahead
tacit wing
okay
vocal shard
What would be the probability of playing with my download is 20mbps & upload is 896kbps
Its not a choice to have that. :'c
opal juniper
That's hardly unplayable, you should be fine
Stability matters more than speed really
But it's not like this is a competitive fps anyway sooo
opal juniper
Well yeah, there will be that
vocal shard
Also I sometimes disconnect while in a room so thats probably the internet
opal juniper
That would be a stability thing
opal juniper
Of the xonnection
vocal shard
oh okay, I kinda guessed but wasnt sure
opal juniper
Like you might have gotten 896 kbps up on that one test, but it'll fluctuate
tacit wing
dear fucking god
i have to rename 62 different pieces of armature
all with differing prefixes
opal juniper
Errr I don't think that's right
vocal shard
Yea true Phase.
I dont know when i'll even have a better connection, since I dont see the chance of me moving out on my own anytime soon or my family & I.
opal juniper
How many yellow entries are there in the animation, in the imgur link you posted @tacit wing
tacit wing
i counted them
before i started renaming
HOWEVER
lots of them have the same prefix
so all i gotta do is just take a certain part of the name and add it before the already existing name
so in reality all i have to do is technically 5-6 of them
(most of them are bullets that are from the same parent)
aka the chain of the chaingun
opal juniper
Oh I guess that makes sense
But since it's raw text you should be able to just copy and paste the path for each onee
tacit wing
yee
thanks dude
i was having a fuckin full on brain seizure
i've been working on this for 6 hours
and this is literally the first sign of progress
actually no
i first asked here at 3:50 pm
in the animations channel,
and now it's 12:38 am where i am
lmao.
vocal shard
hello
tacit wing
hiya
opal juniper
Oh you said nvm so I thought you were good
tacit wing
yeah
that's me being cocky and going like 'AHhAhAHA i'VE GOt YOU NoW fUCkeR'
and then it doesnt work
vocal shard
how are you guys today?
tacit wing
other than working 8 hours on some stupid fucking game animation im going to use in vrchat for like 1 minute before everyone tells me to shut the fuck up
great
versed yoke
Getting ready to escape real life by hopping on VRChat soon.
opal juniper
@tacit wing I'm gonna get some sleep, so hopefully that's enough to get you going. But if it doesn't, I'll check up with you when I wake up
sacred dove
Uh
I can't start up vrchat
the program loads but
it gets stuck on the title thing
:/
tacit wing
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PHASE DRAGON I LOVE YOU
MWA MWA MWA MWA
IT FUCKING WORKS
SFHL:SDFJZLFJZKLFHNJOEHNSDV
๐
vocal shard
You good fam
versed yoke
If it lasts longer than 4 hours, call your doctor.
kind folio
vocal shard
what dyn bones are broken or somethin?
my hair doesnt jiggle anymore
but my boob still colide....
ivory folio
might be broken in the mirror
vocal shard
in the camera as well?
vocal shard
my friend says the workin but on my end i see them stiff as hell
ivory folio
yeah that's normal, mirrors and cameras tend to lie
leaving/rejoining might fix them for your pov
pallid escarp
hey guuys
vocal shard
Hi
ruby needle
Hai ๐ฆ
silver bane
help pls
vocal shard
Howโs everyone?
twin vessel
wanting to die
silver bane
relatable
twin vessel
ive been trying to find a solution to getting walking/running animations working in vrchat for like
two weeks now
nobody seems to know how to actually get them working
silver bane
oof?
vocal shard
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 6128 users in VRChat currently
floral aspen
@twin vessel you talking about custom walking animations?
floral aspen
@twin vessel so you already have a custom animation made and ready to go? If so then put it in the custom override animation controller in the walking animation slot
civic pumice
DEUS VULT!
twin vessel
@floral aspen It doesn't work.
It's an already made animation that loops fairly well.
The animation doesn't play propeprly.
properly.
floral aspen
What do you mean by not playing properly?
twin vessel
It doesn't play the animation.
I just float there.
I've tested the animation on a dummy model and it works fine.
Emote replacements also work as intended.
However, the running/walking animation replacements do not work. The animation either does not play properly (i.e., just the beginning frame of the animation stuck in that pose) or loops improperly
Like for example, if I replace the running animation with the fast_crawling animation, the body will spin around the head whenever it loops.
With the head acting like an anchor.
@floral aspen
vocal shard
@twin vessel your avatars bones might not be named the same as the animations. Also try changing the anchor to the feet or floor.
twin vessel
I need to name the bones the same as the animation?
Can you screenshot your settings and show me exactly what you mean?
@vocal shard
thorny totem
You need to do that when you do and convert your mocap to bvh/anim etc in the first place, changing your bones on your model will most likely break some animation made for a particular armature type. but is it the place to talk about that? dont think so ;)
languid beacon
wait, future proofing uploads a copy of my entire unty project? should i not have like 50 avatars in one project, each in their own scene, then?
yeah an animation is a list of bones and their positions/rotations over time. bone names must match exactly. typically i edit the animation file in a text editor and just find and replace all.. there are probably more eligant ways, though
@twin vessel
twin vessel
What
Oh sorry nvm
How do I tell what the bones are referred to as on the animation?
In
Oh wait. Just open it in notepad?
vocal shard
@languid beacon you souldnt even upload with future proofing
just disable that garbage
twin vessel
I'll take that into account too.
vocal shard
with the right tool somebody can just rip out your whole unity project
languid beacon
yeah anim files are plaintext use notepad++ though to not kill line endings
twin vessel
Ok.
So do I just look at my bones in unity and change them in the animation in notepad++ to what my bones are called?
languid beacon
windows notepad tends not to understand line breaks
twin vessel
Right.
The bones for the model can be viewed on the left hand side right? Just by expanding the model's various regions?
languid beacon
yes as long as the bones are just renamed but the higharchy is the same it will work
twin vessel
Ok.
I'm curious why I need to do this for walking and running but not for emotes.
Ive never needed to edit bone names in .anim files if Im using it for an emote.
languid beacon
vrc emotes are very IK based and only animate the ends of your limbs with IK targets
twin vessel
That'd explain why.
Should I edit the .anim files to correct bone names for emotes anyways?
So the animation is more accurate?
languid beacon
i have no idea how emotes work or if they are different from premade animations
have not gotten into emotes yet sorry
twin vessel
I mean I'm just replacing animations in the override with new ones for emotes.
languid beacon
that's weird, then. are the animations all from the same source?
twin vessel
Yeah.
They all came from the same unity package.
Whether or not the animations are from the same place themselves I'm not sure.
Probably not.
vital holly
Hey so uhh I've read online that the real size of a unity scale depends on the project so how many meters is 1 unity scale in vrchat?
thorny totem
by default 1 unit is 1m
vital holly
ok
vocal shard
are you asking for avatars?
vocal shard
then the scale depends on your model base height
i usually put a vrcchair next to my avatar and messure it with my eyes
you could also just go on desktop and join the avatar testing world
Hey guys sorry to bother all of you and your business. But uh does anyone think they can help me find something really quick?
what are you looking for?
So hear me out
There was a youtuber named nadition
And he used this full screen effect for his avatar called "HER"
And I was wondering what shader that was.
inner cape
Lmoa
vocal shard
are you asking for a shader which puts a fullscreen pic on other peoples hmds?
inner cape
Literally asking for one of the shaders that is used for griefing 99% of the time in the official vrc discord.
thorny totem
yep
vocal shard
No wait
i don't think anyone here wants to tell you how you can achieve such thing
You got the wrong idea dude
inner cape
Can't trust you. Too bad.
vocal shard
I'm sorry man. I was just wondering.
such shaders are just annoying especially if you use a hmd. i would really appreciate it if you would just forget about it
inner cape
The game is ruined by enough people already, hope you can understand.
vocal shard
Well okay that's fine dude.
My bad
there are a lot of really cool shaders out there
which will get you way better and nicer reactions
Okay, thanks then anyways. Sorry to bring it up.
all good, glad you asked so we could tell you our opinions on that matter
prevention is key :D
@vocal shard do you happen to have the video with the shader ?
Yeah, I can link it right now hold on
inner cape
Reported 
vocal shard
Well he wasn't spamming it like an asshole
That's why I wanted to see what it was
And looked pretty amazing to me to be honest
So yeah...
thorny totem
i think it's ok to ask, the tool exist after all, but now you know that it'll most likely bring you a tone of block and if abused a ban ;) @vocal shard
inner cape
Met a random person in vrc today with that shader. They just come up to you and shoot you, your screen gets covered in whatever they put there.
vocal shard
Okay, noted
inner cape
Still need to fill a report for them.
umbral reef
Also--
@vital holly Just import a base unity 3D cube
That is 1x1x1 and its an easy tool to judge hight with
inner cape
It's super annoying in vr.
vocal shard
it just not nice if you litteraly can't see cause you are wearing a headset and that supid shader is popping of
i dontmind if i'm warned before or if it's for a special animation
but people use it mostly for trolling
umbral reef
Howly fuck that is an annoying as shit avatar
inner cape
^
vocal shard
there was a dude with that shader raiding the Pug some days ago
and some people will also spam gross shit with that
Yeah I'm aware of that too
But damn if people really feel that way about this then shit man
thorny totem
@vocal shard yea you lose reference points, can make some motion sick
umbral reef
Well just think it like that
Would you enjoy not being able to play the game, get an annoying pop up in your face that you can not prevent or get away from a stranger wanting to show his thing
vocal shard
in desktop it may be okay and not thaz obnoxious
yes, i felt on the ground because it scared me and i lost my reference points
wasnt so nice
but in vr it's a nightmare
umbral reef
Like, think of it like IRL
You dont enjoy having strangers giving you papers to read, what if they put a bag over your head with the text...
vocal shard
Oh, in my case i thought there would be a way to just do that to one person I'm showing it to. Not the whole server of people.
inner cape
It is possible yes, but still, we never know if you share this info.
vocal shard
yeah it's possible
and pretty easy
Whatever it's fine dude
but still abusable AF
hazy imp
@vocal shard please report EVERY SINGLE person using this shader, it is 100% killing this game. People have put dead dogs and porn and other things I donโt want to see in my HMD.
There is absolutely ZERO reason to use that shader, beyond griefing. Things like this are the reason weโre bleeding VRplayers.
Pretty soon itโll just be Desktop only
umbral reef
Then its a sphere shader
You kinda make a circle around you and if peeps are within that they see that thing
But then you put the size small as fuck
inner cape
Small as your peener Oclac
umbral reef
How would you know what i have down below?
hazy imp
Reporting anyone who tells people how to do this. Hands down one of THE worst parts of this game, and totally makes people stop playing.
vocal shard
i agree with it being one of the worst parts but i never heard anyone leaving the game cause of it tbh
hazy imp
I have. People put dead animals in there. Itโs honestly shocking that the Devs havenโt made a way to disable that functionality.
vocal shard
My bad. I didn't really grasp the gravity of the situation.
thorny totem
i've seen some sickening stuff, i won't blame anyone leaving for that :\ waldgaist
tame canyon
do you guys know how to disable midi input for vrchat
:Tc
having some issues as its spamming me with a error
vocal shard
@hazy imp dead dog is the most soft thing i sawe honestly
2 weeks before the "urgent block" thing was implemented
some dudes raided public world
with a shader
that put gore and scat stuff on your screen
hazy imp
Like I said, people just quit and never come back
vocal shard
let's not get into more details pls. ill get sick otherwise Q_Q
thorny totem
you would for sure
hazy imp
Case in point. Itโs honestly made me stop playing. I havenโt joined a public world in WEEKS.
vocal shard
i still do sometimes
but always read to just instant block aynone
i saw you were doing a lot of stuff with the fullbody suit. how is it going btw?
pretty weird people out there
full body suit ?
i'm interested.
King Ceryn regulary posts his updates on reddit. Really interesting tbh :)
oh wait
i remember this
looks way better since the first time i saw this
yeah
vr future will be great :D
oh yeah
it's just going to take a lot of time
it's quite expensive for now
well, we have enough time i guess
thorny totem
still a gimick though old school mocap is still way better and less invasive than hardware actuators (ressource hungry though)
languid beacon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/278745470036082708/459075734779199499/image.jpg
Number of people who have bought a headset after I sent them this comic: 2
thorny totem
depend of the suit, but like cloth (shirt, pants) or bands you have to apply
languid beacon
how many tracking points does vrchat support?
thorny totem
i think every unity armature joints are supported
languid beacon
i know full vive setup with 3 pucks gives you six
vocal shard
pretty sure that's the max you can have
thorny totem
yes but it's a Vive limit not a Unity one
languid beacon
yeah but we can only access vrchat via steamvr
thorny totem
the soft limit is at 5 if i remember for the vive
languid beacon
heh, i'm totally up for full bodysuit if it had every joint tracked
thorny totem
here the influx one Swelsien https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1583/6483/files/center-image.jpg?v=1509590380
vocal shard
the rig requirement page also does not state what the tracking point limit is :(
languid beacon
no hip tracker?
umbral reef
I dont like to have a sweat suit though
thorny totem
yes that the downside, having to put an entire suit is meh...
languid beacon
hip is like the most important , and annoying, point to track
inner cape
I mean, having trackers all over you is also annoying. Until they shrink them down from Vive tracker size to like a button size, it won't be worth it.
thorny totem
yes clearly
Optitrack hardware and solutions are still better though, if you have the money for it of course
umbral reef
The second there is an big enough request for companies to get those things you will get insane full body tracking
inner cape
Kinect... uuh, questionable.
umbral reef
Most of the VR stuff got launched into the stuff we got now because of companies
thorny totem
kinect v2 work pretty well really, at least cost per performance and for VRchat only
languid beacon
kinect is nice, it gives you something - it's got latency, inaccurate, positional only, not 360 degrees, but it works, it's cheap, and it's better than no lower body tracking at all unless you really really like upperbody only 360 tracking
that said i only have a kinect 360 and no idea what a v2 is or how it's different
vocal shard
i use the xbox one kinect and it is doing ok. like you said it is better then having no lower body tracking at all but it still feels lackluster
thorny totem
have a look for the V2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-K_1daqRBg
languid beacon
can anyone tell me the differences ive only used the 360 one
vocal shard
@thorny totem dat suit tho
thorny totem
yes sure ;)
thorny totem
there possibility to add some sensors
inner cape
Woah
languid beacon
maybe a performemce problem emulating additonal trackers?
rough pulsar
Fun fact: SteamVR has a completely arbitrary limit of 16 tracked devices. Why? That's the number the devs set as the max.
vocal shard
Thanks for the info Gallium
languid beacon
would be nice to just be able to send the skeleton data directly
umbral reef
"Why 16, Well we went to do shots and at the 16th shot someone puked so we found that number good enough"
rough pulsar
Pretty much
Ignoring signal interference and such, the only limit to tracked devices in one space is occlusion.
languid beacon
streaming skeleton data is the same bandwidth as sending a ton of sensor pos and rots anyway
rough pulsar
Nah, full skeleton data would be more.
At least for a regular humanoid rig
Or wait, maybe about the same. Hm.
thorny totem
About the limit ; only steam can answer that one i guess ;). The hardware is capable of more no doubt, but the sofware and the performance hit on consumer level hardware that's another thing . edit : Still thinking at a scenario where you would need that much hmm driving an octopus?
twin vessel
i was told to open .anim files to make the bone references match the bones of the model
to properly use them as something like a running animationm
but it's all just null
:^)
languid beacon
wat
it's .anim right
should be all plaintext
i see all the joint rotations and bone names and stuff as a huge json-like list of floats in plaintext?
nevermind mine were bvh oops
vocal shard
heady crag
So how do events work?
vocal shard
events as in the weekly/daily events in vrc?
rough pulsar
@heady crag There's a number of regular (and irregular) events in VRChat. Those properly added into the calander get announced in the #events channel by the bot.
Joining the events varies a little. Some have an event bot that you friend in vrc and join the world off that, some are a bit more open, some... who knows.
Check the pinned messages in #events for a link to the VRChat Events discord which has more information on each event.
vocal shard
geez I guess I'm an hour late
rough pulsar
That makes the both of us :B
vocal shard
so
have you heard of any singleplayer war maps in vrc?
i wanna be the first to make one and have oc dount steel rights
pure glacier
yeah so like i said traps are gat..7
gay*
now what do i get blocked or something cuse i am really bored to give a f**k
pure glacier
and yeah by the way
Swords and Soldiers HD
this game is free for a limitied time ....
dont care if its good or bad but it FREE!!!
vocal shard
vivid onyx
@covert chasm thx
covert chasm
I bought it as well 
But you can still use it to make fully featured Unity games.
Definitely not a waste.
vocal shard
Problem is, unity isnt my main engine lol
I literally bought playmaker just for VRChat x.x
inner cape
vocal shard
my prefered engine is this one > https://godotengine.org/
vivid onyx
what is playmaker?