Anyway
#vrchat-general-2
winged quartz
vocal shard
You assume you do based off your social media.
vocal shard
i know a 1050 isn't ideal for vr
but i'm looking for the cheapest card that'll do a decent job
floral aspen
thats kind of an understatement haganeth
umbral reef
Well as you need the special stuff because your a special snowflake here we go--
The working of the trust system is unknown and anyone claiming anything else is spreading rumors and being ignorant
It has been confirmed by the VRCdiscord admins that its unknown and not just a time gate.
They made it to prevent people from making avatars that can crash users or atleast make it hard for them to get back at it once they get banned.
They wont tell us how it works so those bad people can not gain the system and not have it prevent them from doing the bad things
vocal shard
You're*
floral aspen
don't feed the troll oclac
vocal shard
If you're going to attempt to insult me, do it right.
toxic dagger
You're probs not gonna have a good time with a 1050 if you're hoping to do VR
winged quartz
1050 should work for vr
vocal shard
Pretty much all you can try to do to circumvent anything I'm saying.
Is by firing off a singular word.
Doesn't work.
floral aspen
it should work for VR, but I wouldn't call it a good experience
vocal shard
¯_(ツ)_/¯
That aside why not get a radeon?
Radeon*
It's a company, a noun.
Aren't they cheaper?
winged quartz
That'll depend on your mainboard
toxic dagger
AMD is the company
toxic dagger
Radeon is the brand, but like, why correct him
toxic dagger
Yes, that's true, and that was back in like 2007
vocal shard
Alright, I had my fun.
Actually, I'm not.
i'm not very familiar with their cards though
R9 390 is pretty good so far
boreal slate
You actually cannot play VR until you buy a proper panasonic 3D TV. What kind do you have?
umbral reef
Have fun being banned on more steam games 👋
winged quartz
I blocked the dude, I don't like him at all 🤔
winged quartz
Gonna go back to work
vocal shard
Do try to calm down.
toxic dagger
I haven't really used them since they were still ATI
Been with Nvidia for a long time
vocal shard
Oh, look someone alerted the moderators.
floral aspen
lol trolls don't know how to be calm advert
vocal shard
R9 390 is good for vr?
floral aspen
Spark no one alerted them. They're quite active in this chat
umbral reef
Tidus dont go around thinking in here
umbral reef
Thats to hard for him 
vocal shard
Tho*
boreal slate
You alerted them by being a cock waffle, dude.
umbral reef
No need to bully him
floral aspen
oh you right Oclac, my bad
vocal shard
Is it?
cock waffle?
Wow, how original.
If you guys want to continue arguing, move to your DMs. Otherwise, just drop it.
Was like 330 Euro when I got it 2 years ago
floral aspen
thats not bad cyhann
floral aspen
cryptomining fucked everything related to gpus
vocal shard
Wierd Situation to be in
10 years ago or so
yeah
Maybe 8
A guy told me to invest in bitcoin
Should have listened
i thought the crypto craze had died down but not everything seems to have gotten cheaper yet
floral aspen
its getting there though haganeth
toxic dagger
Slowing down now at least
vocal shard
It gotten slightly cheaper afaik
only slightly
Still more expensive than it used to
FeelsBad
I need someone here with full body tracking and own a world an kind enough to help me test the legs on my avatar pls
@everyone
Female only? 
? you askin me that?
Just a joke, dw about it^^
_<
kind folio
male only pls
boreal slate
I wish I could help
vocal shard
I get it just was tryin to be serious atm
toxic dagger
bois only
boreal slate
I'm strongly considering getting full body tracking.
kind folio
I have shotty leg tracking but
vocal shard
I have someone who can upload it to a world
floral aspen
Imma wait until gen 2 when full body tracking is integrated and not a separate purchase
vocal shard
but i just need someone to test it for me..atm my rift being dumb
Even though @ everyone doesn't actually work. Do keep in mind that there are more than 30K people in here that would get quite annoyed if it does.
umbral reef
To be fair-
My ego would enjoy having 30K peeps wanting to go after me
floral aspen
oof, just noticed he @ ed everyone
umbral reef
Even if they want to kill me 
vocal shard
@umbral reef dieee
boreal slate
I was playing Battle Disc against a guy with full body tracking last night. It was awesome to see: that guy had a Tron avatar, and he was really getting into the role.
vocal shard
You don't even enjoy me going after you, and you're saying you don't mind 30K... 
Lmao
floral aspen
lol
vocal shard
Jelly ad-chan
umbral reef
Well not lewding me
boreal slate
Advert, have we mentioned that we appreciate the work you do around here? ❤
umbral reef
I dont :^)
vocal shard
umbral reef
I still dont get food when talking here so c:
floral aspen
Advert is coolest mod
boreal slate
But yeah, this guy was just like, doing dramatic battle poses, and when the battle disc match got down to 4/3, he started lying on the ground and weakly tossing his disk as though he was dying.
umbral reef
Just wait untill they try to take over the world
vocal shard
sooo...anyone able to assist? Q_Q
boreal slate
It was cute to watch him roleplay.
floral aspen
I don't have full body, so not me
boreal slate
I wish I could. ;w;
vocal shard
EVen normal vr is fine Dx
floral aspen
I don't feel like spending $500 just for full body
vocal shard
XD
hollow bluff
Two kinects
vocal shard
i got rift an gona get kinnect
hollow bluff
Are reasonably similar
vocal shard
boom done
hollow bluff
Vive can also use Kinects so I mean
vocal shard
What he said
floral aspen
I have an xbox one kinect but no adapter so its useless to me
hollow bluff
Solder it
vocal shard
I am quite the lazy person to be doing that, Oclac.
boreal slate
Guys, I signed into VRChat one day, and now I cannot disconnect from the virtual world? How do I get out of this virtual hell scape?
floral aspen
also you can get lighthouses and the vive pucks and use them with a rift
hollow bluff
I have two, just modded them to work rather than buying the £100 discontinued adaptor
vocal shard
hahah!
hollow bluff
Yeah but that's still like >100
floral aspen
I would do that, I'm just too lazy atm
hollow bluff
Two kinects track better than the vive trackers
floral aspen
what software do you use?
vocal shard
hey if it works xD@hollow bluff
hollow bluff
You'll have mainly only have seen people using one though
I just use whichever currently has the most stable update build
KinectVR or Driver4VR
boreal slate
It's over.
winged quartz
Thank god
floral aspen
I didn't know Driver4VR supported more than one kinect
hollow bluff
That's what originally supported more than 1
boreal slate
Put in all of Microsoft's spy machines~
hollow bluff
Better than getting the new Rift when it comes out
boreal slate
Bill Gates keeps hacking my 3D printer to send me nudes.
winged quartz
Well
hollow bluff
After the whole data farming thing with FB
winged quartz
Better than zuckerberg seeing you naked right
hollow bluff
Just going to stick tape over mine when I'm not using them... Just in case
umbral reef
@boreal slate Dm them to me 👀
winged quartz
lewd oclac
dusky trellis
some guy walks up to me and then vrchat dies
umbral reef
Do not boot up the game but grab the output log first
then you can report him via the output log and get him banned
hollow bluff
Wave the banhammer at hime @dusky trellis https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScy051RCaR0BRe8JPiWpfAgYlAf-VyunKVTm14Q4YMZPY3jDQ/viewform?fbzx=4529702348938787300
dusky trellis
what about the avatars like the ejaculating ugandan knuckles that just freezes the game
does that make an output log aswell
jolly totem
yo how'd the Avatar[world] get through the checks, lmao, there are -so many- stolen avatars in this world, heck, even avatars from other people's worlds with their tags in em, LUL
Even those waifu army avatars are up for grabs in here
hollow bluff
What world?
terse yoke
Avatar[world]
vocal shard
https://pre00.deviantart.net/0f9b/th/pre/f/2014/173/c/7/chaika___the_coffin_princess_by_romansiii-d7ng4or.png Does anyone out there have this avatar original files still? I want the dress
umbral reef
@jolly totem Report it to the staff
Big odds the room will get removed and the creator banned
jolly totem
Dude, I'm having a blast with this
Imagine the reactions of these people when they realize how many of these are stolen
There's an application system for each uploaded world, right? How did this go through? o.o
wary jasper
Hey guys, how long does it take to get able to upload avatars to my account?
hollow bluff
The VRChat team doesn't really approve them
They have a specific team that does it
I'm pretty sure that was the response when I asked... Could be wrong
vocal shard
@jolly totem Some files are able to be recreated from scratch btw lol like Miku an Kanna models are extremly popular an if ya know what ya doing ya can easily remake em. On top of that the base for them are up for free anyway so ye..,
hollow bluff
It's doubtful that someone recreated them all to be fair
Not when you can just RIP from the cache
jolly totem
Yeah, some of them even display the avatar worlds
And some are even in russian
Bounti's avatars are here too
Nomi's avatar of the week as well
Goes to show how huge the problem has gotten.
terse yoke
He stole my avatar.Form [TW]bedroom
jolly totem
Just a quick glance over the world and I already see Nimi* @idle egret Bounti and a bunch of other creators' avatars
chrome jetty
They take it offline
pliant basalt
Yeah, a few from my world including bounti were there, though I think it was just taken down
strong pelican
Do you guys think the new limitations with uploading will hurt vrchats user rate?
jolly totem
Ohhh the server was taken down already, good job
chrome jetty
Ya
strong pelican
like having to pass the mysterious test for uploading priv etc
jolly totem
yeah
umbral reef
Ayyy dope
chrome jetty
kk
vocal shard
Poof
hollow bluff
FeelsBad for the owner
umbral reef
He had it comming though
hollow bluff
It's not even particularly hard to make the actual avatars
Some of them probably have animations that make it harder but you can replicate an avatar in under an hour so what's the point
Then again, VRChat is free so
jolly totem
Yup, some of them had stuff like color changing that takes a while to create and all that kind of stuff
Also lots of group related avatars such as the waifus, loli army police, etc
umbral reef
To be fair its pretty much saying
"Ow art online is free, why cant i copy that and show that off as my thing?"
vocal shard
@hollow bluff now animatiosn are a bit hard to recreate...but avatar part is pretty easy
umbral reef
And to be fair also-- A material swap often isnt to hard to do
jolly totem
Ohh no, but this is a color change that you can apply to your avatar so that when you touch someone, you get their colors onto your chosen texture
idle egret
is it down now ?
vocal shard
Couldn't find it at least.
And they know the owners name. Plus ^ hardware bans ^.
So they may not be back for a little bit at least.
idle egret
What was teh world name
umbral reef
Trust system does more then a hardware ban kinda
frozen trout
It's a bummer to see my avatar stolen. I've heard the have the .package. the avatar is private so they clearly uploaded it to another account somehow. 😦
gilded ferry
Uh oh
elder night
How long do you have to play VRchat to be able to upload avatars?
gilded ferry
Nightmar, there is no real answer to that question, you will recieve an E-mail when you less expect it
vocal shard
forever....@elder night You must become vrchat itself...
gilded ferry
Lmao
elder night
Oh god
gilded ferry
Not to that extent xD
vocal shard
you must live in vrchat
eat vrchat
an most importantly
sleep
in vrchat
it is your life an it will consume your soul
gilded ferry
Afk does not help xD
elder night
It doesn't?
gilded ferry
No
toxic dagger
You need to play VRChat until the HMD fuses to your skull
gilded ferry
Nep-Nep!
toxic dagger
Heyo!
gilded ferry
Hai c:
elder night
That's just been a whole lot of energy wasted then..
vocal shard
An HMD that fuses to your skull
gilded ferry
Nightmare they are messing with you
vocal shard
Someone could write an scp about this
gilded ferry
Ah
vocal shard
Basically
elder night
I know they are messing with me, I just said that it was a waste of time for me to be afking
vocal shard
Afking is a lot of energy
elder night
That was kinda delayed but I was playing osu so sorry
vocal shard
Agreed
@elder night BE READY! VRCHAT WILL BE YOUR NEW LIFE! If someone ask you whats ya fav food, place, job, color, number, game, girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband, side chick, body part, and all the above you will instantly say "VR CHAT!" Loud an proud!!!!
Did i mention fav sex position? oops...
That too! any many MOAR!
elder night
Will do 😉
vocal shard
xD!
boreal slate
Okay, I figured it out. In order to upload your own avatars, you need to:
-
Create a VRChat account.
-
Sign in to VRChat.
-
Find a person in VRChat, start a friendship that'll blossom into a romance after you two eventually meet in real life.
-
Have kids.
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Get a divorce 10 years later after you feel as though you've grown apart as people.
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Download a model from a resource site, and upload it through unity.
vocal shard
i'm afraid.
boreal slate
Six easy steps.
elder night
Didn't work
boreal slate
Did you find happiness in your romance? Because that's a crucial step.
vocal shard
Yeah i think it's fancy french cuisine or some shit
Or maybe a type of wine
ah hell nah
im good
toxic dagger
not getting wine that comes in boxes
boreal slate
It's canned wine.
toxic dagger
when you shotgun a can of wine
worthy river
I need help with my microphone; I'm able to use "Listen to this device" but every thing else throws that it's unable to open the device; making it not work in VRchat either and it's kinda annoying.
small wing
3
5/21/2018 14:57:59 Avatar[World] ToS Violation Suspended indefintely. NSFW avatars in room and stolen avatars. Moderation has been taken against user account
thank you
he stole my stuff
and 2 of my friends
If any moderators see this, I requested you into that world. But i see you already fixed it. So ignore that.
small wing
Its not deleted. just unpublic.
jolly totem
Yus
small wing
thank god. I spent too much time working on my models for them to get stolen like that.
way too much time, from the ground up.
jolly totem
Which ones were yours?
small wing
There were two of them in there adjacent from the naked kanna.
i make the ones with the deadmau5 esque sphere faces.
the outlined ones
jolly totem
The avatars are starting to disappear from the world one by one now.
small wing
The pedistals?
small wing
Oh my god. That makes me feel better.
That means his account is getting wiped and banned
Im just going to break from being civl here and say he got fucked like he deserved.
Sorry if that is too much to say here, but for my sanity it is worth saying.
jolly totem
Ofc he did but this shows how freaking huge the theft system is and how desperately we need a better protection
vocal shard
how to protect 👀
jolly totem
But as far as I've heard, there's no way of giving us better protection, they have to remake the entire game, which I'm pretty sure means that we'll all start from scratch again
small wing
Idk but if a dox was possible i would find out and report it legally.
That is stolen commision
vocal shard
your avatar is against the tos iirc 👀
vocal shard
Good
hollow bluff
Unless your commissions are 100% your content, I.E, no bases, clothing etc, then you can't really report it legally
jolly totem
"exclusive for: [Name] "
jolly totem
Kareeda had his watermelon stolen too but it is also exclusive now
small wing
@hollow bluff All modeled in cinema 4D from the ground up, so yeah im considering it.
I only have a few that use assets, and the ones he stole were 100% legally my copywrite.
Its even tied into my music branding.
vocal shard
They didn't steal your asset just your id
jolly totem
He probably knew he'd get banned for this, but this is the craziest shit I've seen in a while, but I am glad he also got banned for the nude Kanna, that's nasty and messed up
small wing
My friend is a legal consultant for ip and theft online. He said i have enough evidence to push, but i should wait.
The more the better. So if this happens again, i can keep screenshots.
I screenshotted like there was no tomorrow as soon as i joined that world.
So if yall need them i have a few.
true sky
what audio were you claiming?
small wing
I never said audio.
true sky
oh
small wing
I made the meshes on the models he stole.
true sky
probably an avatar snatcher
there have been alot running around recently
they only store the blueprint id of the avatar
small wing
Scroll up and read chat
its better that way
so i dont need to re explain.
you seem to have joined in the convo late.
jolly totem
he's already banned
jolly totem
I bet they banned the creator of that nude kanna as well
true sky
and the knuckles with a horse penis that crashes users
i had the user blocked because i was streaming
small wing
@true sky Not gonna lie. That knuckles was nice to me for some reason.
idk why but he crashed everyone but me.
it was weird.
true sky
were they a knuckles avatar?
true sky
yee
small wing
i saw it
he was nice to me idk
never crashed me but like killed everyone else
i dont even know the guy
the sound that thing makes when its animating is hilarious though
really bad but hilarious
still glad i havent seen him in a while
hopefully he is done
true sky
small wing
yep
true sky
many reported him
small wing
good
true sky
idek if he is banned yet
median basalt
I don't get why crashers do what they do
small wing
I dont either.
vocal shard
Cuz
true sky
or someone who has been banned and using an alt on a VPN
median basalt
They just crash people, get banned, then they have to either sit out their ban, or make an alt which then has to wait to upload
vocal shard
They have power
small wing
I only have one on me currently for countering.
vocal shard
Xd
median basalt
Like, why would you waste your time crashing random people
vocal shard
When using the Vive advanced control scheme, is there any way to revert your gesture to fists after you've locked it to something else?
true sky
they probs have alts ready in the back b4 the wait time went in to affect
vocal shard
Hardware bans are a thing now
small wing
i heard
thank goodness
hopefully this gets to a point where they can just limit the sdk to actually see what is in an animation override
im not for that at all, but its better than getting crashed.
true sky
what vrchat needs is a button to disable particles
vocal shard
Decimating avatars doesn't increase performance
umbral reef
Optimizion aint that easy
Doing it shoddy and half assed what is still more then what 90% of the peeps do it ezpz
And as dot said, decimating is a tiny tiny tiny part
Having less materials is more important then decimating
ruby needle
@true sky but only in addition to a general particle limit, not as bad as the last one but if the button gets implemented without a general limit people will go crazy cus they gonna tell you "use the button if i lagg you"
small wing
Im not speaking of optimization, Im talking about limiting the polygons in the sdk to stop animation overrides with particle meshes.
If your particle meshes are that high poly you need to decimate them. Atlasing textures isnt even the topic, but i can go all into that aswell.
true sky
some people have been making poly bombs
small wing
Drawcalls are annoying
ruby needle
the issue is that if its SDK based
people just gonna mod it
there needs to be some verification system
true sky
or use an old sdk
ruby needle
old sdk is something that should be taken care of
umbral reef
Im still of the mindset that they need to throw the particle and ect limiter back
Only less shit caps on stuff and have the trust system also work with that (so there is like an extra step that removes the cap at all)
median basalt
What do you mean with particle mesh decimation anyway?
ruby needle
like have a version check
umbral reef
Serversidechecks----
median basalt
I think a single particle system can only spawn X verts before it just stops
In Unity natively
small wing
@median basalt If a particle is set to render a mesh instead of an image it will have as many polygons on that mesh times the amount of times it instances in game.
true sky
plus another issue is that people who crash users have started bypassing safe mode
median basalt
I know, but does that incur more draw calls?
small wing
Nobody decimates particle meshes. And the kicker is that crash particles have a ton of polygons.
median basalt
@true sky that seems to be a hacked client doing
small wing
about 13 million
@median basalt It would also have an effect on drawcalls but not in the way you think, because one particle system is basically the one material.
So its not much of a drawcall for material unless you have textures to crash aswell.
so another thing is to compress dynamically
to fix the lag and make users not have to load it all in at once.
A LOD would do vrchat a lot of justice. but i feel like the devs are working on it and its harder than it looks.
Considering they are dealing with community made content, they cant put a lod on player maps. so texture is all they can do atm.
umbral reef
Well they have to make sure to not break the base game by removing/disabling things so not all fixes peeps think off can work
small wing
and most ram crashers are texture based.
raven silo
@Rollthered (Avatars Coming back)#5714 best avoid public area for model don't want to be stolen
small wing
my avatars are in a public world
im not taking them down because 1 person wants to break tos
they got caught already, so it shows that im protected.
I have an avatar world, My issue with stolen content is that i wont be credited for my work.
true sky
best bet is to add anti theft to the avatar. someone steals it with skin snatcher, they crash 🤷
small wing
You do realize that would break tos on my part, right?
small wing
And i would also be crashing people in my world
because my avatars are in a public world
ruby needle
anti theft? 
true sky
kinda wish vrchat didnt allow stealing private avatars to be easier
small wing
You do realize this isnt on the devs at all right?
vocal shard
Since when does anti theft crash it for them
small wing
The hacked clients are using a backend. its a hack for a reason.
vocal shard
I thought it just made the avatar unusable
true sky
had 3 crash me then run around with my avatar getting all hype that they stole it
ruby needle
even with a non hacked client chache/ram extraction is always an issue to every game
*nearly every game
small wing
The thing i can say right now is that all i see it as is people are getting too out of touch with what the devs are actually trying to do to mitigate all this. Its not easy on thier part, and to say im white knighting would be a lie. Ive done lots of work similar to this on other platforms where it is an open community prone to theft.
They dont have much that they can do as so much as we have also. So the best bet is to just keep reporting and hope they hire more moderators soon to fill the chaos.
true sky
it makes it hard to fix a problem that has gotten out of hand since the hacked client went public
small wing
I feel like they got this figured out. The fact that the world that was stealing from other people got snuffed in the matter of an hour shows.
Its just we as a community need to advocate more.
ruby needle
^
true sky
more people run around with it and cant tell if they have it or not
small wing
Speak up like ham, even if its not you getting stolen from.
small wing
All i can say is this.. Advocate as much as possible. Maybe we can put this awareness to good use and actually make an impact on the game in a positive way. We just need to speak up.
If you see someone doing anything shady just report them. no questions asked.
floral aspen
when you have a game where users can do/create/upload almost anything without limits, its hard to mitigate those who would abuse that fact without imposing limits on those who just want to have a good time
small wing
exactly
true sky
^^
small wing
but the people having a good time need to speak up
and not that we arent, but we need more of it.
true sky
in public worlds, i have a good time until someone with a crash gun shows up and ruins it
floral aspen
and when stuff like that happens we need to do our part and pull the logs and report them
median basalt
Tbf the community already gave them fixes for some of these things
Devs just didn't bother
floral aspen
like what?
small wing
The dev team is very very small
true sky
even as a knuckles avatar, i have conversations just like anyone else does and its not always with another knuckles avatar
umbral reef
Rokk some fixes that have been suggested flat out do not work though or break other things in the end
true sky
some friends i talked to alot stopped playing vrchat when the hacked client got out of hand
small wing
I was going to apply for a job as a technical artist for vrchat, but it seems they want unity engineers on the site. I would assume they are short on devs.
specifically scripters.
so they dont have many scripters on the team. Its going to take time unless they get more people.
true sky
vrchat did become popular and grew in numbers after the knuckles meme happened
floral aspen
I honestly wish the knuckles meme would have caught on after VRChat was in full release and actually finished
small wing
The game literally grew so fast that they are having problems supporting it
which sucks because its like a double edged blade
its great for exposure but bad for them because the work load.
true sky
i do have gaztons on my friends list and he regreted making the meme popular but he still does the meme rarely anymore
floral aspen
especially since they had to postpone developing the game to work on upgrading the servers and working on security flaws
umbral reef
Stable growth is often better for any game or company though
small wing
I would assume they have outsourced sponsorships or some form of investor.
floral aspen
HTC invested last year
small wing
So they could hire more people, its just finding them.
umbral reef
I know a few start ups that grew so fast they could not keep up at all, kept rushing updated, back end got a mess so website breaking problems became a daily thing
floral aspen
I think it was a little over $1 million
umbral reef
And the website imploded pretty much
Also that is not unlimited money
Its an big amount but nothing insane
true sky
guess the good side of the popularity is to weed out security issues
onyx patio
How long's the in-game wait time to upload custom avatars? "just play" is frustrating
floral aspen
nope. Once you factor in server cost and maintenance and then paying the team, stuff adds up pretty quick
no one knows rochester
small wing
@onyx patio im gonna make you rage but im sorry, just play.
floral aspen
thats all anyone is going to tell you
umbral reef
There is no set time or official proven way to obtain stuff beside just playing so 🤷
floral aspen
a few days pretty much
umbral reef
There has been a trust system added
floral aspen
it varies
onyx patio
I'm trying to use the Unity uploader and it said my account's too new so, apparently
floral aspen
all you can do is play the game
lilac swan
The factors at play are different for each user, depending on how they play the game Rochester, so yeah. It's literally different for everyone
vocal shard
@vocal shard It's Neen ingame, have something about that audio issue bugging you
keen chasm
Well im not returning until i get vr to really experience the game
onyx patio
That really sucks, since I stumbled through like three hours of blender and unity and only barely figured it out
If my model is wrong I don't think I'll remember how to fix it in three days
oof
true sky
i do plan on getting vr by christmas
floral aspen
Theres quite a learning curve when you're just starting out. Don't expect to be good at it after only 3 hours
onyx patio
Took me ten minutes just to figure out how to use the flying camera in Unity, but that was a timesaver holy moly
If there was a local option for testing avatars that'd be really nice, I don't need to show it off I just want to make sure it works
small wing
@lilac swan I was going to ask you when i joined in on heavynator last night for a friend if you knew anything about ik followers? Ive seen some people make npc's heads track players in maps and he is really needing that fora horror map if you know anything.
floral aspen
agreed Rochester. I'm hoping they add that eventually
lilac swan
Would say it took me 2-3 weeks of messing around in blender to get comfortable enough to say I know the basics
floral aspen
same here Zarniwoop
and thats mostly because blender's UI isn't all that great
lots of tools and features hidden behind keyboard shortcuts
lilac swan
Sorry, Rollthered, dunno how much help I can be with that :(
lilac swan
"blender's UI isn't all that great" is the most diplomatic thing I heard this month lol
floral aspen
once you actually learn it though, its good
lilac swan
For sure
small wing
If you want easy then go for C4D
iron heart
at least blender has a UI fam
umbral reef
Blender ui is pure garbage compared to most other programs
fading ridge
Can someone help me? I still can't upload anything on my vrchat
i have my acc for like 3days or smth
small wing
It cost money but its great
iron heart
blender at least has a search that's easy to hit, with spacebar.
a lot of people just use that search
small wing
@fading ridge does it say in the uploader that you account doesnt have permission to upload avatars?
floral aspen
also can't beat free. I'd like to get maya, but I ain't about to pay that much money
iron heart
maya pisses me off cause subscription
boreal slate
Just so I'm not crazy: how will I know when I can upload stuff to VR chat? Will I get an email? Carrier pigeon?
small wing
@boreal slate it just happens.
floral aspen
thats even worse. Its bad enough I have to pay a subscription for freaking MS Office
small wing
like zarniwoop said earlier, it depends on the player.
floral aspen
@boreal slate you will get an email
boreal slate
Ah.
small wing
i still think its really friggin cool that thier system is dependant on tbe players actions though.
Like that is really neat
boreal slate
It's certainly cool in theory.
boreal slate
The fact that I've been using my vacation time to pretty much play VRChat nonstop and still haven't gotten the ability to upload avatars after 30 hours is kind of a pain!
median basalt
Yeah, it sucks
true sky
worst thing is getting kicked from a world because of a knuckles avatar and not even speaking yet
small wing
@boreal slate I would spend the time personally just asking other creators how they make stuff and using that in game time to learn.
It would also get you grounded deeper into a community of creators that appreciate your work and ideas
sooner than you know it poof you can upload.
and then you know how to do things you didnt know before
nb4 knowingitall
😉
every day something new is made
thats why the game is so magical in a sense
boreal slate
It is really magical.
small wing
creativity is beatiful
boreal slate
I've already made a lot of wonderful friends. ❤
small wing
Ye
I feel like you saying that signifies you being close
you might even get it out of nowhere today
its not going to be that harsh, im sure.
boreal slate
I knoooow.
boreal slate
I'm just anxious because I have to start working again soon.
And then I won't have time for VRChat debauchery!
floral aspen
well, at least you'll have VRChat to look forward to after you get off work
small wing
@boreal slate just keep telling yourself that you got so much time to do this.
get all giddy over it. thats important.
iron heart
like hard work or just work where you just kinda have to be there and then they pay you?
small wing
Its my escape honestly. And people appreciate it too. I made a lot of friends just from my avatars.
iron heart
and your therapist tells you it's the year 2030
cause you escaped a bit too long
kek
floral aspen
damn, you work from home? lucky duck
floral aspen
neither do I
small wing
i work 1 day a week, but my doctor tells me im soon to be a parapelegic.
So thats the only reason.
floral aspen
welp, that got dark
iron heart
guys tend to not take selfies irl
unless they're like
super hot or cute in some way
or TOLD so
iron heart
i kinda think ya'll should take more selfies irl tho cause it does help with understanding how2photo
boreal slate
I've taken sooo many selfies this weekend.
small wing
Better to be postive
floral aspen
true
small wing
I just hope i can be a miricle guy
so i can say fuck you to my doctors
the idea of my bones fuzing together isnt pleasant
iron heart
is this spondylitis or wat
small wing
Im just hoping they have pills to treat it
cause they cant cure it from what they said
iron heart
oh i remember there was a hella cool picture of a dude who donated himself to science and he had similar where his bones all fused
and after a while he was just this skeleton that was hella badass looking, sitting but fused all over
if only i could be as cool as that
worthy pollen
am getting stuck screen freeze in the pug every time i entered
true sky
i crash when i enter the just dance world
worthy pollen
gtx geforce 1080 i76700K
true sky
i remember when the great pug added a script to teleport knuckles avatars to the respawn point which got bypassed by renaming the avatar
worthy pollen
nvm its working again the pug
zenith bane
I am dead inside rn
I spent like 10 hours working on avatars and none of them showed up in VRchat after I uploaded ;-;
floral aspen
did you attach a blueprint ID?
if there is a blueprint ID on your avatars detach it and reupload. It should show up
zenith bane
I will look into that thx
Just confuses me cuz I followed multiple guides correctly and still won’t show
vocal shard
<@&378256373701410817> found a world full of stolen avatars on pedestals
floral aspen
oof
he pinged admins
true sky
world name?
zenith bane
Oof
true sky
oof
vocal shard
it's just called Avatar[World]
floral aspen
thats not something to ping admins for. submit the world name to moderation@vrchat.com
true sky
coolio
lilac swan
It's already been brought to their attention, thanks
vocal shard
and get it never seen or responded to?
true sky
if mine are in there, imma mess the avatar up
umbral reef
pretty sure it also already got nuked
lilac swan
Believe the world in question is down
floral aspen
it will get responded to. A world already got nuked almost instantly a couple hours ago after getting reported
lilac swan
Interesting
true sky
i already have avatars ready with broken bone structures and damaged textures
vocal shard
the floor is juust a big image of 002
true sky
meaning you only see a mess
zenith bane
Maybe they reuploaded it?
quasi laurel
The user of the world should be banned
lilac swan
Brought it up with the admin team either way. Thanks
quasi laurel
Whats a good theater world??.
lilac swan
Uganda. Kick back, relax and watch the disaster unfold.
quasi laurel
Thank you :)
true sky
they must have privated it cause i dont see it up anymore
lilac swan
The Avatar[World] map?
lilac swan
If it was public a while ago then it probably just got taken down
true sky
sorta wanted to see if my blueprint id is in there as i can easily damage my textures and put a "Report me lol" on the avatar
ive done it before
vocal shard
the world i'm in i'm sending email and such
floral aspen
a lot of the avatars stolen are stolen from the cache, so that probably wouldn't work
zenith bane
Dosnt a avatar automatically get a blueprint ID or something?
vocal shard
these are id stolen
true sky
they run around the world with it saying "I used a skin snatcher and stole from Legoman99573. Report me lol"
vocal shard
the really need to add authentication for avatar id's
true sky
^^
private avatars can be grabbed if the blueprint id can be found for the specific avatar
zenith bane
Btw lemme get this straight, if you upload a private avatar and it’s missing a blueprint ID, even though it says it uploaded it won’t be shown in VRchat avatar?
true sky
it will auto generate a new blueprint id when you press build and publish
willow heart
anyone else have an issues logging in as of today? (i had no problems before hand)
zenith bane
Uh huh
vocal shard
anybody know where i can find the world id for the world i'm in?
zenith bane
Then my avatars should be shown since I have done everything right...
true sky
are you logged in with your VRC account?
zenith bane
Yes
true sky
as well in the sdk?
zenith bane
Mhm
zenith bane
Dam
true sky
i would redownload the sdk and reimport it to the project as it might be corrupted
zenith bane
Got it thx
floral aspen
did you already try detaching the blueprint id?
jolly totem
I was there for a good 2 hours or so, a majority of these avatars were public ones, but there were private ones in there too.
And some of the avatars you'd actually have to be a part of certain discords to get to because they're from private worlds
small wing
Lol zarniwoop. best thing coming back to reading with that uganda comment lol.
its so sad that its true lmao
true sky
small wing
i go there from time to time still. its okay sometimes. but still really cancerous.
vocal shard
true sky
i go to uganda world in friends+
jolly totem
You know, aside from the gigantic issue that just got even worse after today (avatar theft), the one thing that was messed up there was that naked Kanna
true sky
small wing
@jolly totem this
vocal shard
Lmao nice one
small wing
i dont even know how that passes upload approval
jolly totem
That one was probably one of the private stolen ones
Doubt they'd have it in a world
true sky
mark a model as NSFW and its uploadable
small wing
pffft
floral aspen
they don't care if its NSFW as long as you don't use it in public worlds
true sky
^^^
small wing
double pffft
plain ridge
I've seen some... interesting models in private worlds./
floral aspen
as have I trap
small wing
thats like saying *You can have this gun, just dont load it jhonny"
jolly totem
Did you touch them ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
vocal shard
Ewww
small wing
Yo ive had a futa loli come up and nutt all over me.
floral aspen
what I want to know is who in the heck greenlit the human centipede sequels
small wing
@floral aspen those horror genres are always prone to get worse over time
same with saw
plain ridge
Not sharknado though. Gold all the way to the end.
small wing
the first ones were okay but then they got off topic and poor quality
does anyone remember that horror movie with the possed tire?
that kills people?
i always thought it was a comedy, but nope.
vocal shard
Didn't even know it's a complete movie
small wing
but i hear the movie is actually not comedic
vocal shard
Just remember the trailer
lilac swan
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1305797/
It's not horror, however I highly recommend this bollywood masterpiece
small wing
clicc
lilac swan
It's like a mix between the matrix and terminator
small wing
I like ai movies
vocal shard
Cucked by your own robot?
plain ridge
Mmemory: 1 zetabyte 
lilac swan
Chitti, the robot can literally speak with mosquitoes FYI
vocal shard
@lilac swan oof i have the world id and user id of host
vocal shard
That's so sad
small wing
i wanna talk to misqutos
vocal shard
Can we hit 500 likes?
I don't think there is anything to talk about
if i could speak to mosquitoes i'd tell them to fuck off
small wing
same
vocal shard
Insects are literally just small machines
Disgusting bio machines
No Ai
you can argue that any living being is a machine really
plain ridge
Have we had a VRChat movie night yet?
lilac swan
He beats the crap out of a gang of mosquitoes to leave a girl alone, while talking shit at them
vocal shard
insects are just really simple ones
But insects even more so
They literally cloned the brain of a Worm
yeah they're a pocket calculator
while we're bitcoin mining rigs
And put it into a robot worm
because we ruin everything and nobody likes us lel
small wing
one movie i really need to watch but i keep putting off for some reason idk why is Lucy
plain ridge
I think it's only right we get a nice video player once possible and watch the movie Who Killed Captain Alex in the uganda map.
vocal shard
also they didn't clone the worm's brain
small wing
its about a girl that gains some form of brain alteration and can do crazy stuff
vocal shard
they just mapped the nervous system
and even then
I didn't say clone
Ok I did
My bad
Meant copy
lol
small wing
xd
lilac swan
I've actually seen Who Killed Captain Alex in VRchat few months back. Was better than I thought it would be
vocal shard
the simulation they ran on the robot didn't even have all of the original nervous system's functions
it was mainly basic movement and such
plain ridge
Watching it for the first time now.
vocal shard
it wasn't going around looking for food or anything
Who killed captain alex is fun af
Well it's still a huge thing
plain ridge
Wakaliwood
vocal shard
it is
small wing
Yo Zarniwoop, what would you say is the most graphically impressive world you have been in so far?
or anyone for that matter
vocal shard
everyone in uganda know kung fu
small wing
i just wanna ask from a creators perspective
vocal shard
Imagine if the knuckles armies knew kung fu
small wing
cause optimization is a fun topic
vocal shard
i like the fact that there are still a ton of worlds to see in this game and i've barely scratched the surface
lilac swan
Well, pretty much all of the worlds linked inside the Beeple Hub world are gorgeous
vocal shard
even though i'm sure more than half of them are nothing special
small wing
did you just say what i think you said
omg
beeple yesss
now i know where im going
didnt know it existed
lilac swan
Fish Person's Cove is very nice too
small wing
he does cinema 4d renders
small wing
he does kinky things to my eyes
void lantern
idk if anyone knows how to solve this, but my character's face disappears on other's screens when they get near me
void lantern
smh
small wing
are you using a shader?
void lantern
cubed toon
lilac swan
Singularity of Space is very nice to me too. It's relatively simple, but I like it a whole lot
void lantern
I suppose. I just went into a world to test my avatar and someone walked up to me and yelled "Yo! Your avatar ain't finished! His face disappears when I get to close to you, fix that shit!"
Guess it was just him being dumb
small wing
@void lantern in the past there were issues with similarly named meshes in the unity package for the model itself effecting the mirrors but they fixed that. so i would look for the same issue.
vocal shard
Only one guy?
void lantern
Yeah, no one else mentioned it
small wing
it might have transfered to other things
void lantern
Just wanted to know if anyone else had similar problems, yknow?
vocal shard
Inb4 he just pranked you or something lmao
rustic linden
Hello
I am trying to play vrchat for the first time but I have an annoying bug
I have the htc vive but when I start the game the VR works (I can move my head and see through the vive), I can see my controllers but I can't play with them
I can only move with wasd ect...
so I see the controllers but they are useless
anyone know why?
young dagger
I am getting bored out of my mind waiting to be able to upload the new avatar I just made. I spent like 5+ hours on it. 😦
Is it really 24 hours?
vocal shard
Cute
stable aurora
it's ok we're here for you to vent
vocal shard
Nobody knows
plain ridge
Could be more than 24. I'm sure there are other factors on top of time as well.
young dagger
I've heard horror stories, of 50+ hour waits.
stable aurora
just sitting around won't get you trusted though
young dagger
It's a horrible way to control security.
plain ridge
You really just need to play the game and forget about avatar uploading for a bit. It will eventually get unlocked.
stable aurora
it's great
vocal shard
It's fine
stable aurora
in order for people to upload avatars to the game... they have to play the game, can't be more simple than that 🤔
small wing
If its so horrible tell us what you think would work lol
young dagger
It's old-fashioned and won't help at all.
vocal shard
But it helps
onyx patio
Are pictures of avatars waitin' to be uploaded verboten in this channel
young dagger
I've played the game several hours already.
onyx patio
👀
vocal shard
Verboten af
young dagger
From what I understand, the wait is not game time, it's time spent in the SDK program.
onyx patio
dang this is the one that's hoppin'
stable aurora
would it be better if avatar uploading was locked behind a paywall?
vocal shard
Lmao
onyx patio
100%
plain ridge
I've heard of some people playing for 80+ hours without it being unlocked. Just sitting around afk is not going to unlock it.
onyx patio
Yes
stable aurora
that way people would be less inclined to get banned from uploading
young dagger
Yes, it would.
onyx patio
Fund the dev team and fast-track avatar uploading
vocal shard
As if
small wing
onyx patio
sounds good
stable aurora
then many people like you who also want to create avatars won't be able to because they can't allow themselves to play money for uploading rights /shrug
small wing
the canny is there for a reason bois
slide in vrchats smexy dms
tell them what you want
young dagger
I have a job. Ain't a problem for me.
small wing
and how it can be done
vocal shard
Is canny the opposite of uncanny?
stable aurora
maybe uncanny is the opposite of canny?
small wing
i think it involves cans 🤔
vocal shard
Hmmmmmm
stable aurora
can town
vocal shard
lilac swan
https://medium.com/@vrchat/trust-systems-content-gating-9e501de487fa
"After spending some time in the app and having positive interactions with other users..." can clarify it's ingame time, as in playing the game client that matters. Not being in unity.
young dagger
You know what is strange? I have a friend who barely spent 1-2 hours and could upload immediately once.
small wing
it varies
stable aurora
actually it's spelled weird 
onyx patio
it's spelled wired
vocal shard
It's wrong
stable aurora
as in wiring funds to the vrchat dev team for uploading rights
plain ridge
omg one of the tiger mafia people are wearing a spiderman mask 
small wing
actually dumb faces its spelled wireeeedediered
get it right, gosh.
did you not pay attention in skool
?
onyx patio
skewl
ruby needle
why... are you in it then?
vocal shard
because we're trying to get mods in here
ruby needle
it should allready have been taken care of
lilac swan
The world has been made unpublic since long ago
vocal shard
it's still present
ruby needle
did you try to rejoin it? or just where in the instance all the time?
vocal shard
it's private but it's still here
yeah, people are joining and leaving, i can join on the id
zinc solar
When is the next wave of room update?
vocal shard
uh so i saw someone with an avatar that had its tits hanging out
not sure if the screenshot i tried to take worked
i get the feeling steam screenshots don't work
ruby needle
VR is PC 
whole lodge
Regardless. If you're on the vr version you can use the camera for better shots @vocal shard
vocal shard
yeah the screenshot didn't work