the screen turning off every so often it's a common problem
#vrchat-general-2
quartz kayak
soft skiff
Our Samsung and HP both have no issues.
quartz kayak
Dell here
ruby needle
WMR has one issue and that is its tracking
soft skiff
use it in a well lit room and the WMR tracking is fine
vocal shard
welll
quartz kayak
so no, it's not just my problem, it's pretty common apparently
soft skiff
the controller tracking is more than adequate
quartz kayak
a good handful of people have returned their headsets because of it
vocal shard
thats where your hands usually are paul
soft skiff
given the 200 dollar pricetag of the HMD package
vocal shard
so
ruby needle
for YOU @soft skiff maybe
here in germany WMR's are nearly as much as an oculus
so i would never EVER recommend it
at all
vocal shard
oh god that fucking burnt
vocal shard
i had vodka in my drink and it went down bad, now my throat burns like shit
indigo fern
Yea, I'd recommend it if you can get it for super cheap in comparison to the other options
quartz kayak
here in Spain it costs more than an oculus, I had to purchase it outside and ship it overseas, I kinda regret doing that because of the customs, though
soft skiff
why would you use anything but w10 if you're running an HMD?
I must be talking to an 'enthusiast'
ruby needle
for 200$ aka 180€or so i would definitely consider WMR maybe but eu prices? hell no
vocal shard
Whats HMD
indigo fern
head mounted display
quartz kayak
"Head Mounted Display"
vocal shard
oh
ruby needle
because windows 10 is not nesseseirly better Moike
soft skiff
the fuck it isn't, christ
vocal shard
<-- not vr savvy
soft skiff
I'm done here, study it out
ruby needle
in fact a frined that just switched has worse performance on a fresh 10 install then a 4-5 year used 7
with vrchat
and i need a reliable system that lets me choose how i want to use and maintain it
and not force me
¯_(ツ)_/¯
vocal shard
i can roll back to windows 7 any time i want on my current system
but i cant bc windows 10 is running better
soft skiff
six active VR development workstations in the shop, all on w10x64, all just dandy.
ruby needle
im doing to much out of normal consumer and even pro sumer range where i had quite some issues with windows 10 and its behavior to switch to it without having a realy big benefit
its to unreliable FOR MY stuff i do
soft skiff
again, that sounds like an 'enthusiast' problem
quartz kayak
so @soft skiff you seem pretty convinced of how flawless it is, can you explain me what is causing my heeadset to turn off so often? not just mine, it's a common problem that is happening to a good bunch of people, and they all seem to point out to the 1709 update of Windows 10, and no, I don't think it's a headset issue, because when I try to run something as administrator while it's off, the headset resets and turns on again and will stay on for like 2~10 minutes then the screen will turn off again
I'd really like for my headset to work because it's really frustrating having to take it off every so often
ruby needle
proapbly Moike yes.
but then again worse vrchat performance from a 5year win7 to a fresh new win 10 install
soft skiff
@quartz kayak I don't know, dude. I have no idea how your environment is built on the rig you're using to drive it.
flint widget
What model headset do you have?
vocal shard
^
flint widget
I've got the Acer, never had any problems
quartz kayak
Dell
vocal shard
not all the WMR headsets are the same
soft skiff
with the exception of the Samsung they're all literally using the exact same internal components
quartz kayak
@soft skiff I got a 1080gtx on 16 gigs of ram and an i7-3820
soft skiff
@quartz kayak No, much deeper than that, I'd need to deep dive the system itself to see what is causing your system conflicts. It's going to be OS/what you have installed related.
soft skiff
It's not going to be a hardware problem
quartz kayak
does it generate logs or anything?
yeah everyone believes it's a software/driver issue
flint widget
I've head of some issues with early Dell models. Is it the right eye or both that goes out?
quartz kayak
I am just poking around while blindfolded trying to find what's causing it but I have no info or anything, not sure if it even generates a log
both
flint widget
How's your USB port?
soft skiff
The system we run the WMR HMD on is dedicated just for the WMR headset, a pure install of W10x64, nothing else installed aside from a few packages we use for demos.
quartz kayak
I've bought a new PCI-e card with USB3.0 specifically for the WMR
soft skiff
And I've stripped down and tuned that particular W10x64 image just for running the HMD.
quartz kayak
I think it was a Startech or something
tacit plank
Rollback the update?
quartz kayak
it was already 1709 when I installed windows 10
vocal shard
quartz kayak
I only installed windows 10 because of the headset, to be honest
flint widget
Have you tried enrolling in the slow test ring?
soft skiff
are you running on a clean install or an upgrade from 7/8?
quartz kayak
clean
tacit plank
Anyone else semi-bored in VRChat at times after spending a lot of hours?
soft skiff
you should open the event viewer, clear all your logs, and then use the headset till it starts to exhibit the error state
quartz kayak
I was thinking about doing that, atocci, but having to reinstall win10 if things went wrong kinda made me step back, because I use my computer for work
flint widget
I've been on the 1803 build for a few weeks now and performance is vastly improved
soft skiff
then dig through your logs in the event viewer and trace down what is causing the conflict
vocal shard
happens to me alot when i play warframe for about a week
quartz kayak
I'll give it a try, @soft skiff thanks
tacit plank
Yeah good point, but I did find a solution
There's worlds with minigames. Mariokart, bowling, chess, shogi, etc.
flint widget
Nothing should reasonably go wrong at this point with the slow ring, the official rollout of the spring update has already begun
quartz kayak
how's the update? I've read reddit users saying it breaks some stuff
soft skiff
I dislike when people say "(HMD Brand) sucks because I have problems with it on my system" when the root cause is their rig is an untuned polluted cesspit of bad software and conflicts.
umbral reef
Well there are a billion things that can go wrong on a pc
soft skiff
you want to make sure it's not your hardware?
quartz kayak
I don't think the WMR sucks, but I do think it has a lot of issues
I mean, I would think it's just my rig or my setup
vocal shard
is there a specific channel i could go to to see if my pc could handle vr whatsoever
umbral reef
But the rule of thumb is
Drivers up to date?
No insane amount of dust?
Restarted/cleared cookies/cache ?
Same the parts dont clash?
quartz kayak
but it seems to be kinda common
vocal shard
i really dont want to invest money into the wrong parts
umbral reef
Well throw the specs acorn
Big odds someone where knows enough about it
quartz kayak
yeah, drivers are up to date, I clean my computer regularly, I turn it off every night
soft skiff
grab a spare HDD, swap out your primary HDD, do a fresh install of W10 on the new HDD, run windows updates, make sure your hardware drivers are all correct, install nothing else.
flint widget
I like it, I haven't had any issues with the update personally. I mainly did it because of the WMR improvements it brought
vocal shard
give me a min @vocal shard
umbral reef
Windows updates 
soft skiff
Then try using the HMD and see if it exhibits the same behavior. If it functions perfectly you know the problem is with your original W10 install, not your hardware.
vocal shard
im autism today
quartz kayak
Actually, I installed w10 only because of the WMR, so it was pretty clean when I tried it back then
umbral reef
Still got nightmares from the laptop i had to fix problems for
An total of 120+ updates later it worked
quartz kayak
I will still try the event log though, I really want to nail down what is causing it
soft skiff
yes, start with the event logs
vocal shard
I’m gonna be homest
soft skiff
it could be something as simple as a sleep power setting throttling your PCI/USB subsystems.
vocal shard
uhh ill post it in #general-media so i dont interrupt convo
Every time we get a new SDK
I get really angry and annoyed
tacit plank
Is your screen set to turn off to save power?
quartz kayak
no, I disabled it already
you know the weirdest thing?
audio still goes through the headset
and it even TRACKS
it's just video that goes kaput
vocal shard
I don’t mean to sound rude. But what bugs were fixed for this new SDK
flint widget
Issue with the graphics card?
quartz kayak
and just running something with admin rights will make it turn on
tacit plank
It sounds weird
vocal shard
Because it seems a little unnecessary to do an update this frequently
quartz kayak
the audio comes from the HDMI, so I don't think it's the graphics card, main screen is also fine
tacit plank
Make a batch script which runs itself as admin, then closes the previous running version of itself?
vocal shard
Well the thing about the sdk
quartz kayak
like, continuous? wouldn't that harm the system performance?
vocal shard
Is that you have to manually put it in or else you can’t upload avatars
tacit plank
It sounds like something is happening every x minutes on your computer (for some unknown reason) which takes focus somehow
Continously. And I don't think so, a batch script is like 50 bytes
vocal shard
"New SDK is live! I won't give much of a changelog as the details are short: We fixed a handful of bugs with content uploading and updating." @vocal shard
tupper 2018 today
like 2 hours ago lol
tacit plank
Look in task scheduler?
soft skiff
again
raven silo
did they fix chair bug on avatar lol
tacit plank
You might find something running at the same time or interval
soft skiff
instead of stabbing in the dark
start by clearing out all the logs in your event viewer
quartz kayak
yeah, that's what I will try
soft skiff
and then running the HMD till it starts to exhibit the problem
umbral reef
@raven silo Not yet but tupper said it would be fixed next update
quartz kayak
@raven silo Unfortunately, they did
soft skiff
then check your logs to find what's causing the conflict
tacit plank
windows+r eventvwr.msc enter
umbral reef
Or ow-- They already did
quartz kayak
will do, thanks again!
worthy swan
Why... Would gating content uploading ever be a good idea in a social based game.
soft skiff
looking at the logs is how you actually fix the problem instead of randomly flipping switches in windows and hoping the problem goes away.
tacit plank
I'm mostly just guessing, but I wish you the best fixing it!
worthy swan
Thats like making a steam profile, and having to ask a steam moderator just to change your profile page.
umbral reef
Its to prevent people from instantly making a new account and crashing other users again
And its more like making an steam acc and not being able to instantly trade and do everything in games like TF2
tacit plank
Gating is to stop people who get banned from immidiately making a new acc and continuing to break the rules
raven silo
@umbral reef it just slow them down little
quartz kayak
well, I gotta head out for a bit, take care everyone
tacit plank
Laters
umbral reef
But there are spots where trolling is so much work (or to offend more then once) where the trolls decrease
soft skiff
@umbral reef you can fucking try at least, you can try something
soft skiff
rather than just throwing up your hands and saying, "people are just going to do whatever they want, I give up"
magic osprey
@umbral reef It's a good idea on paper, bad in practice. I said this eariler, but the system is ripe for abuse. People can falsely flag a New, Innocent user simply by kicking them, blocking them or reporting them on purpose, to gate them way from being able to ever upload.
worthy swan
There are so many other methods to do this. If they make it where everyone its based on 'good behavior' then they can simply just... Be good on behavior. As well as the fact that a trust system that gates the content means that a lot of people if they do it strictly who deserve to upload content and their own avatars WONT be able to. Either they blanket ban a lot of innocent players, or they make it so open that the trust system wont even matter regardless.
Good on paper, bad in practice. Exactly.
They would have to spend more time judging each case
Than they do actually deving the game
vocal shard
It'll discourage people, i mean alot of people wont really be bothered to idle another 24 hours. I relize i shouldnt say that so snippidy snip
umbral reef
Moike i ran a community of like ~5K people active every 24H
There are people that legit have no life and kept returning every free second with an new account...
Time walls for those people where a big struggle and releaved the stain a lot
I might be SUPER bias because the system worked so well for me
soft skiff
I know
umbral reef
Also the trust system should not trigger on those things Lord
That is something the team should have realized within a second
vocal shard
dont they have dedicated moderator team tho
umbral reef
Well the community i ran did not even have a way to confirm emails...
Sad perk of using a website that aint yours 
So it was cry worthy
worthy swan
Legit. Ive managed to talk to their chat mods just to relay hackers before. What we only need is the ability to block particles from non friend avatars, or block individual avatars.
magic osprey
@umbral reef the problem is they refuse to inform us on how it will work and what will count. It leaves it up in the air, which will get people paranoid or worse, because again, people can be falsely flagged. Hell, Streamers will get sniped now with this sort of thing
worthy swan
^
vocal shard
REEE I keep forgetting to upload pc specs that i wanna get for VR
dense needle
Yeah im sticking more to private and friends worlds then anything till they know the system works as intended and work out the abuse on it. I dont want to risk not being able to upload my avatars
polar jasper
@worthy swan They have blocking of shaders (CTRL + F ) already so it could come
raven silo
if troll work togther then can get somone ban from world easy.
it just matter time they do that
umbral reef
Well cant deny that how they informed us is shit
But at the same time we got dope ways to contact the VRC team and they have shown to really care about complaints with proper feedback
Might be smart to make a post on the canny or ect that we want atleast a bit more information (or rumors busted)
but its still not a reason to just flat out remove the system and that what im getting from most people.. They already want it gone
soft skiff
I don't think they ever expected the growth so suddenly
umbral reef
No company would
soft skiff
especially after running such consistent minimal daily user numbers for years
worthy swan
Personally blanket bans are just not working like this. They tried that with particles, block avatars put a hamper on things at times because its a bit hard to talk to a grey ass avatar sometimes. I think they should have a block particles by default/shader button that are non friends. Or being able to select a player individually and block their avatar/particles/soundeffects
You could have access to the blanketblocks, and then a more diverse individual block
earnest ermine
that sounds like a fully fleshed game
raven silo
yea disable particle and sound be option for 24hour
not be able use particle and sound
umbral reef
The game is still in alphe/beta (not sure what they claim it to be)
So a lot of things are missing
soft skiff
Well, I'm a early backer of the decentraland project
umbral reef
And yea throw it on the canny
umbral reef
ITs never bad to suggest idea's there if they are thought out
worthy swan
Alrighty, I'll add that in the future then.
soft skiff
and it's interesting to watch them try to plan on how to handle all this based on their observations of the social system problems VRChat has to deal with.
worthy vortex
Yea I hope VRchat is listening
worthy swan
I feel like that would do a lot better than the trust system tbh
Blanket bans just dont work. They never do
umbral reef
They listen clearly on the canny 👀
worthy swan
Sometimes lol
worthy vortex
this doesnt sound like a system that will help. It sounds like a another tool for abuse
worthy swan
Made a canny on asking for more optimization and its been up to a 120 with no response by them
umbral reef
Can be they are already working it but dont want to promise stuff
soft skiff
well, you can only throttle the experience to a point, you'll eventually end up with Altspace 2
worthy swan
I would say atleast they are working on it. A whole week and a h alf of no response when a bunch of players cant play anymore, and a few are just unable to play in certain worlds anymore after the update would help.
Little upset I cant stream certain areas anymore even with blocking avatars by default
Which even then it sort of sucks having to do that since its not exactly the most immersive or best thing to look at when everyone are grey avatars
umbral reef
Well ima quit being devil's advocate and gonna start drinking while playing games 
inner cape
Oclac halp me.
worthy swan
Whatcha drinkin? ;D
inner cape
Aren't we tryna find someone? D;
vast tulip
@worthy swan thats because most optimization issues need to be done by the world creators and the avatar creators
inner cape
🤔
umbral reef
And Jupiler beer
worthy swan
@vast tulip No, dont even start with that. If an update results in 50% performance loss it is not the content uploaders fault at that point
umbral reef
So plenty
worthy swan
Dont even start.
Ive been through this argument tons of times, and I know that at some times, its right
People need to learn how to optimize worlds and avatars
vast tulip
if you are in a room with people being decent with their avatars and the world is decent you can get around 25 people in a room with 45FPS+
worthy swan
My dude, Ive been able to stream presentation room with 40+ people all with their avatars on. After the update, I cant even be in there with more than 20
This isnt player fault, this is something regarding the update
inner cape
Hmmm.
inner cape
Gotta let ya all end your convo.
worthy swan
Im a color
vocal shard
ghost is baddie dont let him claim you
worthy swan
😄
vocal shard
worthy swan
You're gonna have to fight my harem for access to meeeee
umbral reef
Welp your outa luck again
worthy swan
And if you claim me and we get married... Welcome to the nagzz family tree, the most convaluted garbage tree in existence
inner cape
Never mind, I don't want you anymore.
austere raptor
Harems everywhereeeee
indigo fern
Rip, harems
worthy swan
I do it for fun. Personally its fun just to mess up the tree im in, the peeps in my 'harem' are just buddies of mine that I love to hang out with a lot lmao
umbral reef
Thats why husbando oclac is always great
Im not truthful to people claiming me so im always free 
worthy swan
Nothing even remotely serious, just headpats and greetings and general conversations
austere raptor
family tree in vrchat is probably the most messy thing to exist in this worldl ol
worthy vortex
I get if you revoke avatar building rights from people reporting and VRchat investigating the problem
umbral reef
Its a ghost
raven mango
tiggole bitties
worthy vortex
But it makes it sounds like you get a strike against you if some one blocks you
umbral reef
Gib pizza 👀
inner cape
Why, you ask? Because I'm great.
umbral reef
Man ghost your shit at selling yourself
raven mango
tittole biggies
umbral reef
Just say your best ghost
austere raptor
I have yet to dive into vrchat been busy making multiple avatars
inner cape
I'm best waifu as well. :P
austere raptor
but now it seems ya can't upload them? haven't tried yet
inner cape
Our server info doesn't lie.
indigo fern
🤔
umbral reef
@austere raptor Everyone should be allowed to if they had an account before this update
vocal shard
harems r hot
indigo fern
I don't want a harem, I just want to 1 v 1 owo in bed
vocal shard
harems r hot
austere raptor
oh...but then the new people pretty much wll be discouraged then
austere raptor
since they'll be stuck with default avatars or pedestal ones?
inner cape
Do it N8.
umbral reef
Well depends
If they used steam before they should be able to just email with there new acc and get faster aces that way from how i understand it
Else they gotta get play hours or how else the system will work up
worthy swan
OOF
vocal shard
ur ass is grass
vocal shard
Reminder that being a girl is life on ezmode
umbral reef
So cyan where is my pizza 
vocal shard
Using a voice changer and I already get PayPal payments for ERP sessions
umbral reef
@vocal shard Online, maybe
IRL not really
austere raptor
I can see potential meltdown in public worlds if there are enough trolls/jealous new people
vocal shard
lucky
austere raptor
either more hacked clients out to steal avatars or mass downvoting custom avatars from those who can't get one
vocal shard
Made 4k from thirsty men alone in 1 month, why don't more girls do this
umbral reef
Lmao
austere raptor
better off to avoid public worlds eh
umbral reef
Thats neato
vocal shard
I WANT TO DO THAT
vocal shard
I bet I can make a virtual avatar ala Kizuna Ai and fucking ROLL with this shit
Behold grassman
The man who pretends to be a girl online with a mediocre voice changer and gets paid for it
iron heart
They dont make 4k money from thirsty bois because it means you have to declare it for taxes
iron heart
Kek
opaque hawk
Idk what’s going on
umbral reef
Ow boy your gonna love being rolled up soon then
vocal shard
I won't either
umbral reef
He does pay taxes
inner cape
Should I make my sword with some space/fire textures or just meme it and go with ahegao faces?
vocal shard
Murrika
umbral reef
He jsut does not show them and uses loopholes we cant use
vocal shard
politics r gay
indigo fern
^
iron heart
One side ahegao
austere raptor
trumps golf course uses teh farm loophole to cut down on taxes lol
iron heart
One side space and fire
vocal shard
Why haven't you used a voice changer to get money yet
See how the other half lives
but im already a girl
inner cape
Poggers
umbral reef
Well owo then you will sound double girl 👌
inner cape
Girl on the internet?
vocal shard
Enjoy the benefits of the pussy pass
iron heart
Because ive been an actual voiceho before and i can assure you, you get very very very annoyed with the men that come your way
Very.
worthy vortex
wanna keep trolls from making troll vatars after new accounts?
umbral reef
Also no one would want my accent LUL
I can barely speak normal english with my grimmy voice let stand using a software to swap suff
vocal shard
Instantly be wanted and desired for doing absolutely nothing, and be a girl
worthy vortex
The trolls are bored and leave
umbral reef
Then they just make an acc
Like 200 of them
And let them wait for a week
then go full out
meager rose
Make yourself even more of a girl with a voice changer. The higjer the pitch the better
vocal shard
attract all the pedos
umbral reef
A time gate works better (so playtime)
jolly totem
Saw the new content gating system, but when are they gonna fix the block bug, lmfao
umbral reef
Well you got n8
vocal shard
Just
indigo fern
Talk to me bby
umbral reef
Ez target to learn it on
vocal shard
YEAH WELL IM SHY
Use your voice and get $$$
Hell even if you're butt ugly twitch will pay you to stream just for being a girl
Search your feelings
You know this to be true
indigo fern
I'm a guy, and my buddies said people would pay to see me bend over
umbral reef
People would pay to get me to leave 
indigo fern
X
vocal shard
You could get paid 10k a month easily
safe prism
um
safe prism
hi hello it's not that lucrative unless you're 1%-er
vocal shard
X TO DOUBT
She has an edge, being a girl and having boobies
I just have a voice changer and I already got 4k in one month from PayPal...donations
For erotic roleplaying
Mark my words
I'm the first VR prostitute
vocal shard
First VR male prostitute
safe prism
can i sell you a bridge
vocal shard
Or rafher
worthy swan
First VR Male prostitute?
vocal shard
Female (male) prostitute
austere raptor
theres an article about the darkside of vrchat where r-18 models are uploaded and used only in private invite worlds
worthy swan
Have you not SEEN Xigneon or Tosha?
safe prism
ok that's more correct
umbral reef
I got a friend that goes to those place wonder
calm stag
Damn multiple generals
umbral reef
first time he told me i was hella confused
calm stag
Gets me every time
vocal shard
yeah im not being a vr prostitute
worthy swan
Hentaihaven dudes play VRC lmao
calm stag
It's ok
worthy swan
They have their own private world, its invite only
safe prism
yee
austere raptor
LOL i did't know that
vocal shard
bleh
calm stag
I've done 3 "things" before
safe prism
HH nerds are fun people~
indigo fern
you don't need to be a VR prostitute, you just need to be mine
worthy swan
Yerp. But like its stupid hard to get in
quick cedar
Ay guys I have been looking for a power ranger 3d model for forever now and i cant find any good ones. I know this is a development section but if anyone knows a good place for a model like this let me know. I know this is super random too xd
umbral reef
Just be the best husbando Ezpz life
calm stag
Oof
austere raptor
tbh Kamen rider is almost power ranger
indigo fern
!
worthy swan
Oooh~ Burger
austere raptor
🥚
worthy swan
Egg is my cousin
umbral reef
Food ?!
worthy swan
I cant eat him ;-;
jaunty apex
austere raptor
lol!
vocal shard
austere raptor
fineee
vocal shard
Vore me
austere raptor
🍆
indigo fern
is my affection not enough payment anymore, I'm hurt
calm stag
N8 it's ok I love you
indigo fern
:0 i luv you too bby
calm stag
i think I have to pay you because it's a challenge to be with me lol
quick cedar
well ive seen a skin on a stream, it was called black sentai warrior and i wondered if it was custom or if i can get it somewhere
calm stag
i talk too much
indigo fern
and no prostitutes could ever take my attention away from you
austere raptor
im sure there are power rangers models somewhere
vocal shard
pay me tho if you want be to be a prostitute smh
worthy swan
Well ima poof now
quick cedar
yeah I cant find them
worthy swan
Back to lurking! Stay safe fellas
austere raptor
remember when joey bagels visited VRPD
indigo fern
oh my
runic agate
Anyone know where howling Miko is?
worthy swan
Dont remind me. I remember when me and kuri got arrested and he proceeded to come by, free Kuri and pay them to keep me in jail
calm stag
Are the vrpd still a thing?
worthy swan
Yerp
umbral reef
Kuri 👌
vocal shard
OKAY
umbral reef
botht he food and the dude
austere raptor
lmao what did you do to get arrested cyan
calm stag
I did meet one guy tho
austere raptor
and how did kuri get arrested hes a demigod lol
worthy swan
Trying to break Kuri out of jail
calm stag
We were breaking into my stolen porno
worthy swan
Kuri lewded a loli by headpatting them
calm stag
Got locked out and I needed my porn money
austere raptor
what
calm stag
i never got my porn money
obsidian pagoda
So, when content gating emails being sent?
obsidian pagoda
h
umbral reef
Everyone got grandfathered in krim
umbral reef
So everyone is all G for now
vocal shard
i dont have friends
austere raptor
^
austere raptor
none of mine want to play vrchat
umbral reef
wowie i aint a friend owo?
calm stag
Irl or vrchatv
vocal shard
BOTH
obsidian pagoda
if we're lucky, really old and trusted accounts will get more avatar privileges hey
umbral reef
💔
calm stag
you can have me too
indigo fern
and we just need each other
calm stag
If you're a chill person
safe prism
pls don't take away my shaders
calm stag
We chill
calm stag
Ugh I need a haircut
safe prism
ew
austere raptor
I need to meet people in vrchat once im done setting up avatar
calm stag
Waffle
austere raptor
but yet im afraid of public worlds due to the horror stories i read lol
safe prism
don't be afraid
calm stag
Wanna meet sometime then?
safe prism
it's usually quite good shit
calm stag
You got till like Sunday
safe prism
same
calm stag
Then I'm gone for another 2 weeks
runic agate
What horror stories?
safe prism
feel free to hang out with me or whatever, i'm rly sleepy gril with weird friends
austere raptor
like being trapped in a world due to not being able to see your menu from some particle system
calm stag
I'm like that but uhh
safe prism
o
calm stag
Not a girl, as you can see
safe prism
that rarely happens if ever
calm stag
And I don't get sleepy
vocal shard
i wanna be a vr prostitute now dammit
safe prism
same
vocal shard
but i dont
calm stag
Being pumped is the best
austere raptor
u wot
calm stag
It's pretty easy @vocal shard
Just get a cameraman
And you and another person, prob a random
Go to the void
Private room
Profit
indigo fern
But where does the real profit come in?
austere raptor
also drop i would like to meet up tho im not sure if i can before sunday since my avatar is still partially finished. Might also need opinions to see which part is scuffed lol
orchid lodge
😜
austere raptor
so vrchat name same as discord one correct?
safe prism
same here
austere raptor
alright see ya later. fyi my vrchat name is DrizzRaine
vocal shard
NAH ITS CRINGEY AS HELL
umbral reef
Add me also while your at it
Oclac is the name
indigo fern
Wait, what's cringey?
indigo fern
We got each other, don't worry
iron heart
Yall in for a rough ride cause youre gonna have to actually be good at conversation and flirting in a particular manner if you want $$ from that
I know you guys cant even flirt with me lmao
Get gud
vocal shard
Exactly thats why im not gonna do it
Whoever made the life is strange hub world. I love you
❤
quartz kayak
you don't really need to be particularly good at conversation if you are pretending to be a girl
iron heart
Just voice isnt enough, nope
indigo fern
Rage, you're just OP at a lot of things since you have so much experience
quartz kayak
or even if you're a girl
quartz kayak
doesn't matter
iron heart
You have to talk hot.
quartz kayak
why care about one picky person when there's 400 others drooling
safe prism
i just speak sleepi and loli
iron heart
Also the big cashcows arent men who would talk to boring chicks and pay them
austere raptor
lmao
safe prism
i'm not even boring, i have at least 2 fish! like
iron heart
The biggest yield are getting favs to want round 2, 3, etc
safe prism
their names are fish and fish 2
iron heart
Not one-night-stand equivalents
earnest ermine
what the tarnation going on here
safe prism
i guess i can use an awake voice ugh
iron heart
Discussing men ho-ing as girls.
iron heart
And how you guys are clearly hella noob at it lol
quartz kayak
rofl
safe prism
get a cute name like sexkittenhime or something
austere raptor
how in teh world is that remotely cute
iron heart
Drop "sex"
vocal shard
thats so gay
indigo fern
^
iron heart
These days more dudes are wary of fake fin-dommes
vocal shard
sexkitten
iron heart
Ou dont wanna be an obvious trap
safe prism
my owner would literally kill me if i findommed
indigo fern
How to make your peepee go down with just a username
safe prism
xd
iron heart
Yea you dont wanna be a thot, you wanna be their GFE.
vocal shard
owner
iron heart
That's really where the $ is
vocal shard
n8 why dont you own me
So pretty much everyone here wants to do what TM trained for months to do?
indigo fern
I thought I did?
vocal shard
umbral reef
TM?
austere raptor
trapman
umbral reef
Ayy
iron heart
Also why bother if you can stay a dude anyway
earnest ermine
I wonder if I could be convincing
iron heart
There's enough people paying for just dude interactions
quartz kayak
I can't do a female voice to save my life
safe prism
all voices can be trained
indigo fern
Rage, be honest, would people pay for me
safe prism
i promisee
indigo fern
I mean, cmonBruh
iron heart
You? Yes, yes they would.
safe prism
sometimes it's harder than others ngl but
umbral reef
PFff i odnt need to be a trap
earnest ermine
anyone wants a hug these days
safe prism
free hug club unite
earnest ermine
free hug
iron heart
You in particular probably have a better chance out of most of the people i know in our discord to get anything that way other than Oclac
Iike if we talking about wine milfs.
umbral reef
Wowie helton 
iron heart
lol
vocal shard
xD
umbral reef
Wait what other then me 👀
austere raptor
so unrelated topic. how many have vr headsets
umbral reef
👋
vocal shard
I like plutonic hubandos :P
quartz kayak
I... kinda do
vocal shard
kinkshaming
quartz kayak
I hope toget it fixed with the advice people gave me
vocal shard
im under 18 how many nasty pedos can i get
austere raptor
I've been on the borderline thinking if I should just get the vive or wait for the primax 8k
vocal shard
@vocal shard Ur safe with me
vocal shard
DAMMIT
indigo fern
owo, Rage said people would pay to see me
iron heart
I would know cause ive been jailbait
quartz kayak
but... age is just a number? huehuehuuehue?
vocal shard
@quartz kayak and jail is just a room, now get in there!
quartz kayak
depends, age of consent in my country is 16
iron heart
Jail is just a mentality
vocal shard
iM 12
iron heart
-o-
quartz kayak
welp
umbral reef
Being alive is just a thing
quartz kayak
guess I'm waiting 4 years?
vocal shard
jk im 16
iron heart
12 too young blech
austere raptor
@vocal shard correction Jail is a rent free room with food provided
safe prism
oh
iron heart
Wow
safe prism
underage is rly shunned in the two lewd communities i'm in
iron heart
Younglings
vocal shard
bunch of pussies
quartz kayak
29 lul
indigo fern
I've claimed that one, she mine
quartz kayak
who cares, all that matters is the money
austere raptor
@quartz kayak im not that far behind you lol
iron heart
Fam. Guys pay you money to humiliate them over thr phone so vr is a bit better
quartz kayak
$$$
umbral reef
Raaa now the big question
iron heart
At least i can step on people
safe prism
yeah but then you have to tell your mom why John Silva Washington sent you $400 on paypal
vocal shard
who gives their mom their paypal wtf
austere raptor
^
quartz kayak
rofl
iron heart
Why would your mom see that yeah
indigo fern
Looool
umbral reef
Would more alcohol work or medication for my throat pain
safe prism
bank accounts dude, you're too young to have one under your own name
so they could see you depositing
:x
iron heart
Also if youre using Square Cash app for it, they give you a debit card to pull out of your account, with a laser etched signature on it
vocal shard
its not like you need a license to have a paypal
iron heart
Hella boss looking card
quartz kayak
@austere raptor so since you mentioned that, how old are you? lol
austere raptor
27
vocal shard
First time seeing people gathering up here to chat... Seems exciting😃
quartz kayak
totally legit
iron heart
You might not want that
quartz kayak
so, welcome home?
iron heart
Paypal has been quite adamant about it
vocal shard
i wouldnt give my parents my paypal if i had it
austere raptor
lol
vocal shard
@vocal shard good for you bud!
austere raptor
well with paypal you don't actually have to use your name
set it up like some streamers do and use their twitch account name
vocal shard
thanks stinky
quartz kayak
isn't that a violation of their terms of use?
indigo fern
Am I stinky?
austere raptor
is it? i didn't read it lol but theres plenty of buisness who set up paypals
iron heart
I think it violates paypal agreement like tos if you fake your name
Js
Even camwhores have to use their real name on Pp
quartz kayak
yeah
iron heart
So twitch streamers, like always, do shit wrong
quartz kayak
I think for corporations, someone has to put their name on it
not sure how it works
indigo fern
Yea, if you don't want your name revealed, you make a business account and set the business name to reveal only
iron heart
Ya
quartz kayak
exactly that
vocal shard
cant you get like banned off paypal for sexual shit
quartz kayak
is what I was thinking
vocal shard
or is that smth else
austere raptor
how would paypal know? lol its donation unless they put the detail on what its for lol
quartz kayak
"thanks for all that juice bb hope 2 see u 2morrow ;))))"
iron heart
You can get your account frozen if your friend JOKES about "thanks for the blowjob babe" but just sending you lunch money
indigo fern
J-j-juice?
austere raptor
well....
vocal shard
nephuc i wouldnt doubt its happened before
austere raptor
its protein i guess?
quartz kayak
hahah
iron heart
They do have an investigativr department is how they know. It idnt that hard to look up some people since a lot of the shit we do is leaving a trail everywhere
Everyone is allowed to use deep searches using your email
Everyone is allowed to ask for a bg check if they pay for it
Everything you do is somewhere.
indigo fern
^
vocal shard
GIVE ME JUICE
iron heart
That's how insurance companies do shit too
austere raptor
welcome to the digital age
indigo fern
I'll give you all the juice you want owo
iron heart
Bf's mom works in a job like this and she even looks at people's facebooks cause theyre hella dumb on them and lie about shit when they try to file for workers comp.
Everything you do is somewhere.
umbral reef
Lmao i almost got denied because im not on facebook and shit
quartz kayak
lol, I don't have a facebook
austere raptor
I stopped using facebook in high school
umbral reef
They wanted to know more about me and only reason i still got accepted was because my CV looked dope
iron heart
I have a fb from when it started but yea that was hs years
vocal shard
juice NOW
indigo fern
💦 💦
austere raptor
🍇
quartz kayak
oh lord what did I spawn
iron heart
I think after turning 20 i just kept fb to shitposting-mode only
And then just nothing
vocal shard
f
quartz kayak
aargh, I just noticed I've gotten distracted talking here and I've wasted like 2 hours of work
indigo fern
Uh oh spaghettios
quartz kayak
ALL YOUR FAULT
austere raptor
I should...get back to work....
vocal shard
my work is prostitution
indigo fern
Do it
vocal shard
Told yiu
quartz kayak
you sure change your mind quick
vocal shard
It's in every girls dna
indigo fern
Just make sure you come back home to lil ole N8
jaunty apex
yes you are
vocal shard
too late
iron heart
Hey, you guys have the prostate. Not me.
jaunty apex
you're all thots except me
vocal shard
once you go slut you never go back
I'd love to live life on Ezmode irl
anyone w a kanna pfp is a thot
iron heart
Hoing is hard tbh cause you just get murdered
vocal shard
Unfortunately men must woek
iron heart
Or like disabled
jaunty apex
@vocal shard
iron heart
It just takes one crazy dude
jaunty apex
shush thot
austere raptor
can't imagine how easy it would be to make money like that if you really wanted to in this day and age of the internet
jaunty apex
come at me thot
vocal shard
USE BETTER LOLIS
jaunty apex
i use chiya, tyvm
vocal shard
LOL
iron heart
Life ruined
vocal shard
Rectal tears
austere raptor
hell back when I played Aion people assumed my gender due to how I typed lol
vocal shard
Diccc too big
Uhh... 🌮 ? With some Moroheiya as a side sauce? @quartz kayak? So we be forgiven?
jagged dagger
Can someone help me i can't hear my friend nor does he can but our friends around us can hear both of us
quartz kayak
no idea what that is but sure
iron heart
Yea this girl had a crush on me in ff14 and got mad when i told her i wasnt who she remotely thought i was
vocal shard
@jagged dagger is his game updated
buddy we are talking abt prostitution
idk how people can be vr prostitutes,, thatis scary
lul rip XIV thots
austere raptor
i just stopped my ff14 sub yesterday lol
jaunty apex
@vocal shard you tell us
vocal shard
xiv is fucking cancer for making friends
jagged dagger
We got the same build number
vocal shard
@jaunty apex im the most virgin here fym
austere raptor
its definitely got a interesting community to say
indigo fern
Dot, no bulli, she's loyal to me
iron heart
Well, easily, because vr means no getting murdered, they cant realllly threaten you, they cant be thaaat creepy, and you get to block them
jaunty apex
@vocal shard X Doubt
vocal shard
@jaunty apex why are you asking that to a child entering puberty?
iron heart
Also no diseases
vocal shard
u might be close to your FC or whatever but dont ever make friends with people in an FFXIV fc
I DOT EVEN MASTURBATE
IM THE MOST VIRGIN
vocal shard
I KNOW??
umbral reef
Dot dont apply logic to this chat
indigo fern
you fap to me and you know it
iron heart
Who isnt
vocal shard
Ok
jaunty apex
okay age check
vocal shard
VIRGIN TO EVE R Y THING
jaunty apex
AGE CHECK
inner cape
N8 is at fault here, should teach you more.
jaunty apex
aaaaaaaaaaaand im out
austere raptor
oh i keep a fine line @vocal shard i dont reveal my gender and personal stuff
vocal shard
i know
austere raptor
thus makes them interact just based on you and your character
jagged dagger
@vocal shard We got the same build number of the game its only between me and him he can hear others and i can hear them too but not him
vocal shard
i already said that i know this, i said it as i have never done anything like it
dummy
@vocal shard NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT LEWDS UR NOT 18
iron heart
Lmao it is really weird when i think about 16yos now like 'man you were like 6 when i left for college, fuck'
indigo fern
Asking someone else to bean you, feelsbad
vocal shard
Thot
iron heart
Thot
jaunty apex
thot
vocal shard
iI WAS 12
vocal shard
Dude what the fuck
it was on omegle we dont talk about it
thats gross
he just got his peepee out
umbral reef
Wait who is the tsun?
iron heart
Why are you even mentioning it
jaunty apex
already on omegle at 12?
iron heart
Lmao
vocal shard
and was like
jaunty apex
cmon bruh
indigo fern
What happened to the loyalty, I'm hurt
iron heart
Dont mention that shit unless it is actually noteworthy xdd
vocal shard
We dont wanna talk about under age sex stuff here
iron heart
Like if they bought you shit
vocal shard
Superthot
jaunty apex
superthot vr
vocal shard
i still have enough dignity to not thot myself over vr tho
lies
megathots do that
Why are you people pretty much hissing at them xD?!
jaunty apex
hyper thot is what i would call you
vocal shard
you'll do it
indigo fern
Why don't you do these thot things with me
iron heart
My first thot experience, the guy gave me money at the pool for holding hands with him
vocal shard
watch this
winged quartz
🤓
🙏
👢 👢
iron heart
I felt bad for him
vocal shard
then you SUCKED HIM
winged quartz
oh
iron heart
It was like the chinese yuan equivalent of 200 dollars tho
winged quartz
lewd
vocal shard
N8
winged quartz
leaving
austere raptor
uhhh is that actually thot experience or did he really just want some company lol
vocal shard
lol
vocal shard
@winged quartz oh hai! Welcome to this starting chaos :D
I mean it wasnt rlly thottery if i was just there you know i didnt do anything thot i promise
winged quartz
D- don't get me back to it
vocal shard
nani
indigo fern
okie, I trust you, just love me back
jaunty apex
if owo whats this had vr, she would be the thotest thot among thots
vocal shard
luv u
ok im done before i get in trouble and banned from ANOTHER server
regardless of how I SEEM im scared of sex jokes on u!!!
iron heart
Does that mean she would have fake hair and butt implants?
Cause youre gonna need those to be thottest of thots
vocal shard
@winged quartz Ahem... JJJJJJJJJJJOOOOOOOOOOJJJJJOOOOO
iron heart
Those are also gross
indigo fern
SAME, YOU MAKE ME HEART BEAT
winged quartz
aaaaaaaaand I'm out again
umbral reef
Bornate take me with ya
steep turret
did I miss something questionable
steep turret
good thing I saw that before it got deleted
gonna have to give whoever suggested that a hard no there bud
vocal shard
It's not as bad as it seems, they just were hissed at a lot
steep turret
that's my taco daughter/son they're talking about (never payed attention if they mentioned their gender I'm a terrible person)
a hard no
inner cape
Whomst?
vocal shard
Also since today is Moroheiya everything Friday, do you want a 🌮 with Moroheiya?🍵 <the tea is the closest thing resembling it...
inner cape
Sup.
vocal shard
Here ya go🌮
vocal shard
So a little swearing won't do any harm, but harassing and hissing does?
umbral reef
Hiiss