They shouldn't make new laws based on emotions
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
iron heart
He's always rolling around in the grass
mighty galleon
its been a law for a long time
vocal shard
"I like horses don't eat them :("
mighty galleon
hey working
iron heart
I like rabbits but i totally understand if people eat them
Ive eaten dog and cat, so.
mighty galleon
you can be fined for calling a person the wrong gender because they're "sensitive"
iron heart
umbral reef
Talking canadaaa?
mighty galleon
no america
umbral reef
Ow well im murika that does not work
iron heart
Yo honestly if i called them the wrong gender then it was their fault for doing it fucking wrong
umbral reef
Its not an official law there
iron heart
Lmao
vocal shard
In Canada you can, but fuck Canada. It's not even a real country (south park reference)
umbral reef
You can in the work place be fined for being racist towards them
Canada has bill C 16 though 
mighty galleon
you cxan be sued for almost anything in america
iron heart
I dont like thr microaggressions shit people are yammering about
mighty galleon
its why they're now required signs to say "not actual size"
umbral reef
What makes it illegal anywhere for anyone knowing to mispronounce a gender of someone
iron heart
Suddenly it became unacceptable for whities to ask me questions like 'where are you from'
mighty galleon
we were just talking b/c of laws based on emotion
vocal shard
The "microaggression" thing is retarded
iron heart
Ya
mighty galleon
and california is basically laws based on emotions
iron heart
I think my sister turned a bit sjw cause she went to ucla
umbral reef
But even though i love talking about politics and related this aint the server to do so
iron heart
And they had microaggressions built into their school code there
vocal shard
We're not on politics yet, we're on "common sense" ๐
mighty galleon
yeah
iron heart
Also im not surprised that shes had terrible relationships all over the place
mighty galleon
its like "idc if you say your a girl, you're a man to me"
iron heart
Guess being sjw doesnt help you with your own life, ho
Cant help others with your fb activism
vocal shard
There's a lot of issues in society that are being ignored, but everyone is super serious about a few minorities feelings
mighty galleon
ima probably be fined for being insensitive to a persons gender or feelings
vocal shard
Like Flint. They still don't have clean drinking water I believe
mighty galleon
b/c ima say what i want
iron heart
Yea i already have had some people apologize to me about the japanese raping nanjing
They said they felt guilt over it
I was like what the fuck dudes
iron heart
If anything bringing attention to it like that is more racist
Cause what the fuck, theyre just saying that cause im chinese
mighty galleon
"oh, im sorry rage, that all your people had to work hard to build that wall"
iron heart
Lmaooo
vocal shard
I don't get people apologizing about something that nobody is alive to remember anyways
iron heart
Im sorry that my ancestors put their corpses into the great wall to fend off the mongolians
mighty galleon
"we should've stood up and helped"
vocal shard
You don't inherit your countries actions
iron heart
Im sorry that lubu is always the super scary badass in every dynasty warriors game
Speaking of which i still need to play the One Piece dynasty warriors one
mighty galleon
"im sorry that my country is deporting illegal people"
iron heart
I did hyrule warriors already
vocal shard
Try hailing in Germany, you will get really unpopular lol
iron heart
lol
vocal shard
Yup
mighty galleon
thats just one big apology practically
vocal shard
Even though the symbol has been used for 1000s of years elsewhere with a good meaning behind it
vocal shard
Well, them too
The finnish airforce used it until 1940s I believe. It was just popular in general
mighty galleon
its even window based ;3
iron heart
I did like that symbol cause i grew up with it in my buddhism household
The sun, reaching the four corners of the esrth, enlightening everyone and everything
vocal shard
But yeah, society has bigger problems, and it shouldn't be illegal to offend people anyways
umbral reef
This happens when you teach kids that the world is only black and white
vocal shard
They still use it in Japan
iron heart
Well I mean
mighty galleon
people just want to avoid the important thing for as long as possible or until it literally in their face bitch slapping them
iron heart
You can teach kids the world is grey but some of these kids are fuckin retarded tho
Thats the problem too, people dont exactly take to what you give them
Even if youre RIGHT
mighty galleon
and then you got kids like rage who are nymphomaniacs
vocal shard
Yeah, I've kinda given up on the world
iron heart
Nah
I regard nymphos as an actual physical and mental disorder
Thats what that is anyway
iron heart
Cause those women are cray
vocal shard
It's going to shit and people are too dumb to care
mighty galleon
and some men
iron heart
It is classed that
vocal shard
It sounds like a fun disorder to me
iron heart
Its like you only call yourswlf a nympho if it is legit destroying your life
It's just another thing like gambling
vocal shard
Okay maybe not fun if it's that severe
mighty galleon
its kinda like those men who have a masturbation addiction and hate themselves about it
vocal shard
Still, it must be nice to have something you really like
iron heart
Like and "feel compelled to do because you feel empty otherwise" are different
Yeah.
Cause addiction doesnt mean you like it
vocal shard
Ah, yeah, true
mighty galleon
to them its a drug
vocal shard
At some point, things stop feeling nice. I guess it's the difference between getting drunk at a party and being an alcoholic
mighty galleon
b/c lots of break up and cheating
iron heart
Also i like being indoors and playing co-op games
mighty galleon
i think id want it in a steak kinda way if possible
kinda like small servings of it in different ways
iron heart
Well you know how rich asians hire people to harvest some swallow's best that they make out of their bird saliva?
vocal shard
I love games. Videogames, boardgames, cardgames, etc. Staying inside and playing games sounds great
iron heart
Ive eaten that in a sugary soup jar thing a lot
mighty galleon
really?
iron heart
It's for 'beauty' or whatever bullshit chinese medicine says it is for
mighty galleon
isnt it exspensive stuff though?
iron heart
I just ate it cause i thought it was interesting and then my mom was kinda making me
mighty galleon
since the nest are not many
iron heart
Not sure if it worked (jk ofc it doesnt)
Yeah it is kinda expensive
Also fucked up imo
mighty galleon
oh rage what about those "diet waters" xD
vocal shard
They live fairly long despite their culture, so maybe some of it works
iron heart
Diet waters? Like wut
mighty galleon
and "smart water"
iron heart
The only thing that works is exercising and eating properly
vocal shard
Diet waters are a tax on stupid people. Actually, I think most products are
iron heart
What the hell are diet waters lmao
mighty galleon
seeing diet water in store i was like "who'd the hell fall for diet water"
look it up rage xD
vocal shard
Exercising is important
mighty galleon
The Water Diet, sometimes known as the Cold Water Diet, is one of the latest fads that appeal to dieters who want to melt away their fat. Compared to fasting "cleanse" diets and those that restrict caloric intake, such as the Rice Diet, the Water Diet doesn't limit food consumption, nor does it require exercise.
diet water bottles
iron heart
Yeah in china we have all these public little green spaces where all the middleaged and old chinese people get together and exercise at 6am, and some do taichi
I think they are just healthier really for having a discipline to do such things even at age 80
They eat well.
Theyre average chinese too
Not rich
A lot of thrm walk a fuck ton.
vocal shard
Exercising is probably the best medicine
mighty galleon
but yeah those fads are rediculous
iron heart
Also there i really like those stones they pave into the ground on purpose where they are round and huge and massage your feet
Youre meant to walk on them on purpose
It feels good hahahaha
vocal shard
I once saw a "protein drink" in a store. I read on it and it literally had 0 grams of protein. It was just the name
mighty galleon
lol
mighty galleon
and its funny how the salads at mcdonalds have more calories then a burger does xD
vocal shard
Yeah I've heard that too
mighty galleon
i find it funny
people trying to eat "healthy" and slather on dressing and wonder why they stay fat
vocal shard
I'm getting whey, just for the calories
iron heart
One tablespoon of any oil is generally 110 to 130 calories.
So slathering it on doesnt help
mighty galleon
nope
iron heart
It adds up real fast
vocal shard
Most things have the calories listed on them, it's not rocket science to know your calorie intake
mighty galleon
some people dont read remember
iron heart
But then people add like five pats of butter wtf
iron heart
Why are they so illiterate then
vocal shard
Peanut butter has lots
iron heart
They should fucking read lmao
mighty galleon
i literally get people asking "does this come with batteries" and i look at the cover and in big letters it says "does not include batteries"
iron heart
Peanut butter is a weird case cause i think it has more calories if they make it creamier which means more peanut oil
But i just measure it anyway
umbral reef
Or you know if you want to lose weight you read what a product has
Count that up untill you read the recommended daily limit and spread the food over the day
iron heart
I got a food scale
umbral reef
And just drink water to not be hungry
iron heart
Yeah the rule is always calories in and calories out
Bf lost weight at first eating just hot pockets.
mighty galleon
i wish i knew how much calories i burn a day
proper prism
Hoi
mighty galleon
hi welcome back star
iron heart
And drinking WoW mountain dew
proper prism
Thx sean
iron heart
And then i got mad at him cause that food sucks
vocal shard
You can look up a formula for daily calories burned based on your height and weight, then add the exercise you do on top of that
proper prism
Is oclac still here?
iron heart
Hot pockets are only good as a sometimes thing or a breakfast only thing
mighty galleon
my excersize is basically lifitng heavy boxes and running around for 8 hours
i wanna lose my stomach fat so i needa try to lose weight and, ugh, excersize when im not working
vocal shard
Walking is about 400 an hour I believe
Probably easier to eat less, you seem to be above 3000 a day if you're not losing weight
mighty galleon
ive gained weight but thats b/c i was eating lots of candy and microwave food xD
so im stopping with the snacks on breaks and ice cream
and no more jack in the box
vocal shard
Idk how you gain weight actually, I can't seem to force 3k into myself a day
mighty galleon
if i want to i can force over 6k
vocal shard
My brothers microwave foods are only like 800 calories for a kilo
mighty galleon
a munchie meal from jack is 1.2k, with a large soda being over 200 calories, and fries at what ever for one meal
vocal shard
Like, I burn more calories chewing that. And yeah, fastfood has a lot, but things like "potatoes and beef" microwave boxes doesn't seem to have a lot (500 calories a meal for the ones I found)
mighty galleon
i found a nice microwave thats a lot for just 500
so i might start geting that and stop my soda intake
vocal shard
Soda has 500 calories per liter
vocal shard
A liter is 2.1 pints or 33.81 fluid ounces, according to wolframalpha
mighty galleon
idk any of those
vocal shard
Shit, what units do you use?
mighty galleon
im not really sure for foods and drinks and such since i never use them or hear people talking about them
other then table spoons
but i use miles per hour and stuff
all i know is gallons for liquids
vocal shard
It's 2000 calories a gallon
mighty galleon
b/c one gallon of milk is 8.5 pounds
2,000 calories a gallon on soda? that seems real low
but oh well
i usually only drink like 2 cans a day or so at work
vocal shard
The soda here, anyways, maybe slightly more
But yeah, going water instead would probably help you
mighty galleon
soo 100 calories in an 8 fl oz serving of pepsi
vocal shard
I guess
mighty galleon
either way i take in a lot of calories when im not watching
specially b/c the snacking and nights where i just eat practically a tub of ice cream b/c stuff
vocal shard
Ice cream has quite a lot. If you don't have any ice cream in your home, you won't accidentally eat it ๐
sleek bone
This game needs a sorting feature
for avatars
It's painful to having alot of avatars
mighty galleon
complication!
mighty galleon
good thing i only use 3 avatars
sleek bone
Importing models was the fun part of VrChat for me :(
vocal shard
I'm approaching 60 avatars
sleek bone
Most of my enjoyment of the game is importing avatars
sleek bone
idk
mighty galleon
reminds me i needa delete all the fails
wet vector
I'm with you on that, lyeco
iron heart
Yea i start importing when i play a new game
wet vector
I have so many avatars lol
iron heart
Like now i have a tales of berseria Eizen model but i gotta fix him up
mighty galleon
i have one Original, one semi original and one reskinned
iron heart
Csuse he wasnt mmd at all
sleek bone
CATS is life
wet vector
Making new avatars is like a drug lol
vocal shard
CATS is pretty good, but it likes to mess up the eye tracking for me. Idk what I'm doing wrong there
iron heart
Overreliance on cats also sucks cause gotta know how to do it without
lol cause a lot of raw files arent mmd
iron heart
Like the paragon assets are a bit weird
And none of those things
As i have discovered
sleek bone
Non-MMD models are a challenge though
mighty galleon
reason why i pay people to do the work for me xD
sleek bone
But then importing avatars is like fucking drug indeed
vocal shard
It's easy for most avatars. A few quirky ones are a lot of work, but there's literally a 5 minute 21 seconds tutorial on uploading avatars
mighty galleon
i was only good at decimation
vocal shard
Cats can do everything for you now
sleek bone
Yep
Makes importing avatars fun
Even more fun than playing the actual thing sometimes 
umbral reef
Makes it not perfect though
vocal shard
Drag in, translate (4 clicks), decimate to 19999 (one click), add eye tracking and test it (4 clicks), add visimes (1 click) export (6 clicks). Takes a minute unless the avatar has issues or you want a quality decimation
mighty galleon
try decimating a 250k tri count avatar
took me over an hour to get it done for a friend
sleek bone
I decimated a 100k avatar but omg
mighty galleon
biggest ive done is 300k
sleek bone
That avatar is CGI only
vocal shard
I decimate to 60k :3
vocal shard
Merging materials does more for optimization than decimating from 60k to 19999
vocal shard
How much do you pay for OCs?
sleek bone
I just like the game because I can whoever I want
mighty galleon
i paid 200 for my OC to be maid from scratch
sleek bone
Vrc traders?
mighty galleon
im to lazy
vocal shard
I learned how to edit textures to begin with because I wanted to make a character which nobody has been insane enough to turn into an avatar
It's nevadatan btw
mighty galleon
human
vocal shard
I need to redo it
vocal shard
What does it fail at?
mighty galleon
hey working
vocal shard
Yeah
mighty galleon
ima sleep
vocal shard
Alright, good night man
sleek bone
Wrong bone sizes
vocal shard
Ah, does it make a big difference in movement?
vocal shard
Guess I can try it then, if I find any such avatars
vocal shard
I need to find that script
I guess there's good Youtube money in making a tutorial btw, if you feel like it
VRChat in general lack guides
vocal shard
Thanks!
vocal shard
No problem, if the default Gimp color depth and alpha settings are fine
slate shuttle
I wonder what kind of environment/sandbox Playmaker will be.
floral aspen
Playmaker uses a Visual scripting interface so if you've ever seen how shader forge works its kinda like that
jaunty apex
yeah makes things simple
although shader forge still requires people to have knowledge in shaders
floral aspen
at least with playmaker you don't have to know how to program to use it
jaunty apex
exactly
shader forge makes things easier to people who know how to do shaders
if you've never done shaders before or are still a beginner, chances are shader forge isnt gonna change anything
while playmaker is something accessible to everyone
strong pelican
My oc is being created starting today and I will get it on Sunday. So freaking excited!
jaunty apex
from scratch?
strong pelican
yep
strong pelican
exactly
jaunty apex
how much are you paying
strong pelican
$200
same person that did Whitmire's
We will finally have a dope skeletor in vrchat
strong pelican
yea I mean its not cheap but it also is a decent amount of work
I go to dragoncon every year as skeletor so I am super pumped
jaunty apex
i mean from scratch is a pretty nice price
depending on the detail, it might even be an amazing price
jaunty apex
looks great
strong pelican
thx!
strong pelican
I don't know to be honest. I posted in VRC traders and he contacted me. It just happen to be the same guy that did Whitmire's OC and I had seen it in game so I knew the quality of his work.
elfin cloak
can someone help me in this please? when i download and port avatar from mixamo to unity and try to test him. in animation, all is ok. but when i try to upload my avatar, unity does not allowe me to do that by saying that my "upperchest" is not right i remmap every bones to there place and turn of uperchest now the character goes green i apply-done. and in the upload option unity tell me that is everything are fine but when i try to play some animation the character not moving at all i risk to upload and i see that that avatar is not moving att all just floating in the air. so i wonder why unity refuse to upload avatar to vrchat? by saying that i have probelm with my avatar which i know that this message is fake for well known reason or if something else, what is going on then. so please can someone tell me where can i download rigged human bones.ht for unity or can someone tell me how to force unity to think that my uperchest problem is not a problem.
floral aspen
if you used mixamo, map upperchest to none and chest to spine2
elfin cloak
well yes i download avatar from mixamo but when i try to upload the avatar in order to configure skeleton mapping site just say that he is not able to upload given file and all process just stop btw i use opera net browser maybe that is a problem
if that is a problem could you give me the best communicating net browser with mixamo but please don't give me chrome shit because when i chose in ccleaner to erace just coocies and when i luounch chrome again all opened tabs are just wenished and that shity browser create's shortcuts on my desktop & startmenu without my permision
floral aspen
huh? configure your armature in unity. Don't use some website
umbral reef
that last part? wat
Look like someone does not understand what cookies do within a browser if you think you can clear them and have all the data saved...
And you gave permission somewhere for them to add a shotcut
floral aspen
^
gritty sonnet
be careful with your cookies!
slate smelt
you can rig with blender, but be sure that your character have the correct rotation (in blender) because sometimes ingame that will be messed up
floral aspen
true, blender has a auto-rig and an auto-weightpaint function
quiet prawn
It's crap though
floral aspen
I've never used it before so I wouldn't know
tacit plank
Does anyone know the name of that loli fox from touhou with like 9 tails?
I downloaded it but forgot which folder I put it in
tacit plank
Oh, yeah, it's ran. It's a loli model though
vocal shard
guys i need help
i made a thingy in unity
everything looks ok
but in vrchat its laying flat under the ground
sacred dove
I just got booted from a room because of hardware envy
They got angry I can pixel glide
and very soon after
the map broke
jagged dagger
hi guys. I'm asking if someone on the server could help me make custom avatar LLENN from SAO GGO. I found a free model for her gun but i can't find anything close to model that looks like her. If someone can do let me know ๐
slow palm
Ninja RIP Fatal Bullet?
floral aspen
serifpersia, check out VRCTraders. Its a whole discord dedicated to avatar and world commissions
jagged dagger
ty gonna check that out
vocal shard
why doesnt the server have VC?
indigo fern
It would get full fast and/or a cluster fuck
vocal shard
oof
velvet quarry
Doesn't seem like it'd be all that useful, this discord is effectively for a voice chat application.
vocal shard
lol true
jaunty apex
hard to moderate VC
indigo fern
Imagine like, more than just 10 people talking at once
Shudders
vocal shard
btw is Kanna Gang still considered a hacker group?
idk i haven't seen them in a while
i think they just left the game
signal wren
Getting so sick and tired unity crashing
vocal shard
Youโre just not that good a driver.
dim thunder
Anyone read kanji here i need help
vocal shard
A lot ppl having unity issues lately but Iโm not, only when uploading same blueprint ID I do, doesnโt overright it and sometimes need to reupload 2-3 times which gets annoying, still like that pass few months for me now but no unity crashes just broke my unity 2 times lol
signal wren
Just to Meany issues with the new update.
My friends models eyes are grayed out but we have the same because I made his but his eyes are gray for me. but mine are fine
wut?
sacred dove
If I get banned because people keep booting me from deathrun either because I have no choice but to afk for a bit or because they have SEVERE hardware envy, I'm going to genuinely become a pain in the ass for the duration of the ban. ffs.
safe prism
are you breaking ToS
sacred dove
Nope
Just keeps getting me reported to the moderators
Pretty sure going afk because your dog is spitting up blood and because your dad decides to visit, and hovering around like the well built PC master race god you are causing people to say you're cheating and get severe hardware envy is in no section against the TOS
130+FPS master race
signal wren
The cap in vr or vrchat is 90
sacred dove
Of being booted?
oh wait
of frames
nah man I mean I always get higher than 140 fps in games
So I never go below vrchats max
Should have clarified
130''
140 is my peak sorry
It usually skips between those two numbers :u
I think the only time VRchat dips is if it's been open for over three hours
indigo cosmos
Greetings! I'm having some trouble finding out how to mount a chair inside an avatar. Im pretty new to unity and it's very confusing. Im trying to mount a chair to a large avatars hand so i can carry people around. Can anyone give me some advice on where to learn this?
sacred dove
I mounted an invisible chair to my feet and it faces my groin so when people sit in it I get the succ
fite me
hasty wedge
ur saying u never go below 90 fps in VR?
sacred dove
Yeah not usually
hasty wedge
wut specs monkaS
sacred dove
If the map is yoog then it caries between 60-70
sometimes goes to 40 if it's been open for a while
I can run for about two hours without dipping in normal maps of 30- people
hasty wedge
indigo cosmos
Any idea where to find somewhere that explains how to do that @sacred dove ?
indigo cosmos
Ah fair enough, bummer
smoky scarab
Is there any way to permanently enable standing play? Every time I load a new map it puts me in seated play mode and messes my avatars arms up till I switch back via menu :โ( Im super new, hoping thereโs a setting Im missing
ruby needle
normally seated mode should not matter when standing it just calibrates you at the hight you are at but should work fine while standing?
but no there currently is no setting for it 
smoky scarab
Weird :c
I recalibrated sensors (using a rift) and made sure everything was okay
Sometimes my POV starts off way above my avatars head, freaks me out xD;
Also was having a problem of trying to join worlds and itโd load up to 100% and repeatedly kept canceling ๐ค Ill test it out again later though
strong pelican
Rift user here for some reason when I sit down now I see my body sitting down but I am in this weird 3rd person view and the arms are like way up high kinda weird
dull oar
@strong pelican I get that too sometimes. Switching avatars usually fixes it
strong pelican
ah perfect thx
while I love vrchat I am still pretty noobish so its good to learn these things haha
gaunt shell
Hi! lol
umbral reef
@sacred dove You do know that msg of reported to a mod is more false then anything else right?
You do not get banned for being kicked alone...
vocal shard
sometimes you just get kicked for just being there
rocky blaze
slowly starting to not enjoy this game anymore due to this update screwing up me being able to hear people if my internet goes bad in the smallest amount
vocal shard
having to hear that loud popping and stuttering
rocky blaze
nope
just no sound completely
before i could hear everyone with 700-1000 ping and still be able to talk to them during, now if my ping goes up 37 points of ping above the normal 200 (i live in UK and american servers)
winged quartz
oi
vocal shard
?
turbid agate
yeah Elen i feel ya, went into a large population world, ping was high, stuttering as soon as any sound played
rocky blaze
no but you dont understand as soon as i start downloading avatars I CANNOT HEAR ANYTHING till its done where before i could download everyone and have no issues
my internet is 300KB/s up and down it is not fun with this new update, dont know what they did to this update but they screwed it over by unoptimising the internet useage and not focusing on voices instead of player movement
forest marlin
i have a friend with a new rift, and not the fastest computer but so far he's been able to play other vr games, like robo recall. vrchat though isn't working well at all. "when i move my hands it glitches from place to place very slowly, a very delayed reaction"
any idea why this would be?
umbral reef
His CPU is shit and VRC is a really cpu intensive game
while most lighter Vr games are properly optimized
AT times use more the of the GPU and try to use more then one core
He can try lowering the settings with VRC
Up the priority of the game and disable ALL background stuff
forest marlin
thanks @umbral reef although i'm getting him to test rec room. his internet seems fast, and the fact he can run robo recall and google earth and other things made me think that the extremely simple test room i sent him should work. but same problem. i'm doubting it's to do with optimization, but we'll see if he can do other networked vr.
umbral reef
VRC runs the cpu single core and it takes an insane lot more then just google earth stuff
And robo recall is fairly well optimized
forest marlin
so this could be a cpu issue instead of gpu?
rocky blaze
what is his GPU?
umbral reef
Well almost everyone struggles within VRC because of there CPU not GPU
rocky blaze
even tho VRchat is GPU heavy for VR
i have a 3.4ghz quad core 5 year old CPU and it says green to go with the steam VR tester and the oculus rift tester
umbral reef
The vr tests have nothing to do with this
Its the game only using one core instead of dual or quad core
Because of that you need a really strong single core cpu power
the gpu ofcours needs to be able to handle it
But because of the cpu rules the gpu is almost always in the green
forest marlin
i5-4460 3.2 gz
geforce gtx 960
ruby needle
2gb 960 ?
umbral reef
Well that should be able to run VRC fine enough unless ^
Or mirrors
Or if he is being dumb and running anything in the background
Like any browser or big program
floral aspen
2gb of VRAM is pretty low for modern games
umbral reef
You running vr though or?
ionic kiln
yup, a Vive and a 1060
umbral reef
990X?
ionic kiln
yup
umbral reef
Im god awefull amazed then as the benchmark for that single cored is low
ionic kiln
well, the workstation version, W3690
umbral reef
All cores its nice but single core is wowie
ionic kiln
so no overclock or anything either
I need a new build -_-
but yeah it is pretty amazing that it can run on that
floral aspen
define "fine" though. You getting 90FPS in most worlds or no?
ionic kiln
rooms with a lot of people are choppy sometimes but that's usual when people have out their dancing kannas and particles lol
umbral reef
Talking about this pc stuff
ionic kiln
oh I'm sure it's closer to 30ish
umbral reef
I need to make a whole new pc build as everything but my PS is sheit if i want to upgrade it
And i need to clean my current thing
I can see the dust just sitting there
floral aspen
I need to have at least 45 FPS for it to feel smooth to me. Anything lower than that isn't really a good experience in VR
ionic kiln
I should look actually, I've not experienced any dizziness or sicknesd or anything
umbral reef
dont most vr games go from [ All the fps i can scrape] [ locked at 45 FPS ] [ Locke at 90 fps]
floral aspen
luckily I don't get VR motion sickness either, its just low fps is very noticeable
ionic kiln
I might poo a brick when I upgrade then haha
Since I will not have known how good it could be
floral aspen
oh yeah, definitely. 30 fps vs 90 fps is night and day difference
umbral reef
The price will make you poo enough bricks already so
Big odds you wont have any left :lul:
ruby needle
i can actually deal with 15 FPS BUT
the turning around is soooo slow
that is the absolute pain
the overall vr portion (and turning in vr) is still not the bad part
ionic kiln
yeeeah the price hurts on everything right now
floral aspen
Though, even if you do get a new CPU, you're still gonna lag a bit. Even the best cpu on the market will lag if there are too many people in the room.
ionic kiln
yup
floral aspen
that shouldn't be an issue once VRChat can take advantage of multiple cores though
ionic kiln
I have most of the parts actually, just waiting on a mobo that isn't released yet :I
umbral reef
They need to swap unity version for that dont they?
umbral reef
Ow zeph what is your new build
ionic kiln
Ryzen 2700X
I need that little Asus mITX board
gonna do a tiny little portable rig
and it'll be really nice for 3d animation stuffs I do as well
can't wait to get cinebench on it :3
forest marlin
so how do you change the quality settings for vrc? i didn't see it in my settings menu
umbral reef
Uuuu you gotta do it on bootup but i forgot how to 
rocky blaze
for desktop you go to where vrchat is installed and hold Ctrl and double click the exe
forest marlin
thanks
ruby needle
you dont need to go to the path just hold it while normally launching
turbid agate
VRChat uses dx11 right?
forest marlin
@rocky blaze @umbral reef rec room works perfectly for my friend
while the simplest vrc room doesn't. could it be just the vrc settings?
vocal shard
VRC is very CPU intensive, your friend's CPU might not be that good to have a stable FPS with VRC.
winged quartz
I had to upgrade my i5 as my gtx 1060 was lagging a bit...
Even tho, you should focus on the gpu for the game
inner cape
ruby needle
that is actually very possible
if that dual core has a higher per core performance then a dual core might be better then quad and more
but dual core for vr 
umbral reef
Its all about raw single core really
ruby needle
you want some more power tho
for steamvr
and oculus home (and the system)
but yeah
the best you can propably do is remove acess do one core for all programs except VRC
and asging VRC to that core with realtime rights
so it has that core with full priority for it self
opaque hawk
Is there a way to disable cameras in a world instance. People can easily cheat on werewolf using the camera
opaque hawk
They should, but It doesnโt necessarily stop people
ruby needle
well... people can cheat with other ways too
if people want to cheat then the will, kick em out
dull oar
Also people cheat when playing werewolf IRL. A lot of the game is based on not being a dick
umbral reef
Games meant for friends dont work with strangers that are childish Never expected that
lethal meteor
Don't play with randoms in a serious game.
ruby needle
but how do you mean ok players then 
ruby needle
which of <insert propably hundred awooing avatars here> 
sacred dove
These losers keep booting me from deathrun because I can hover longer than they expect
I'm fixing to just dodge it with multiple accounts because they're all being children
kindred glacier
the most common u can think of
the small one foxlike with blond hair / black
oh its called ooka
sacred dove
I swear to god
First I get booted because my pc can let me react far faster to traps than others except for an incredibly tiny minority of people can react to
And then I say "well if you can't be grown up about this I'll give you something to actually complain about" so I start hover gliding
errant sigil
what you think that's bad?
I keep getting booted because I'm bunny hopping
which is
"Unfair!!!!!11111"
People that play deathrun really deserve the griefing they get if they behave like that to the actual skilled players
A different skill cap isn't unfair
It's called get a better computer or practice more
lethal meteor
Bunny hopping?
errant sigil
Yuh
You know how you can gain air in mid air, along with jumping extra high?
Scaling walls/rails and getting launches that make you go high and allow you to glide for a little while
lethal meteor
Ohh
errant sigil
I do that
It even allows me to avoid very specific and obnoxious traps
And these utter LOSERS can't handle it
"B-BUT IF I CAN'T DO IT IN VR YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO EITHERRRRRRRR"
Losers. The lot of em.
errant sigil
Thank you for proving my point 20x as much
They're just ignorant LOSERS who can't hold a torch to someone who is better at executing certain tricks and strats
I'm a bloody speedrunner
it's in my blood to jank
They're fussy because I run it so fast death can't keep up and the floor drops beneath them
Waah.
Get better.
granite coral
"get better" in a social experience... ok...
errant sigil
Be quiet it's deathrun, a game in VRchat that takes a degree of skill.
granite coral
bunny hopping isnt considered fair eighter
errant sigil
It's utterly fair
Anyone can do it if they practice enough
Apparently even VR users
alpine cove
i can't imagine why people are kicking you from worlds
errant sigil
You're just unskilled
alpine cove
you seem like such a swell person to be around
granite coral
anyone can also put a collider in his avatar
errant sigil
I actually am a fun person to be around
I'm just annoyed right now
No, that's an unfair advantage cibbi
You need a special avatar
you don't to bhop
Your argument is invalid
granite coral
you need a humanoid avatar if you want to bunnyhopping, so if i'm using a generic one you have also an unfair advantage
errant sigil
Uh
No
If you make/use an avatar that doesn't use default bone mapping and or controls it's your own fault
devout island
@vocal shard Sorry I was in school
errant sigil
95+% of all avatars made are capable of bhopping
granite coral
and if you dont have a collider on your avatar is also your fault(?)
kindred glacier
ok srsly where do i get the awooing ooka miko?
granite coral
i just dont follow a logic where only what i want is fair or not
devout island
@kindred glacier If you get info on that, I wanna know too
errant sigil
If you do something that err's from the base then you choose that fate of your own free will
granite coral
it's eighter everyone is allowed to do what he wants, bhop, colliders or whatever, or you just follow the general rules for a game
errant sigil
You cannot blame anyone else but yourself
Bhopping is not considered cheating in that map
Otherwise jump would be disabled and it would just be running
Bhopping is a huge part of even garry's mod
You're just bad at death run if you get mad because someone else is better than you by using advanced strategies that are well capable of being pulled off with a default VRchat given avatar
granite coral
it's considered cheating or not based on the rules applied in that instance, hello? it's a sandbox, the rules are decided on run, if they kicked you for that it's cause they enstablished to not use bhop in that specific instance
alpine cove
i know the world you can get the awoo ooka from, but i don't think the actual unity file is public
you can get the model itself, you just have to create the awoo animation yourself
signal wren
My point in this is who really wants to fight over a petty game LOL. It's not real life folks take a breather and go outside.
granite coral
and stop saying i'm bad at deathrun if you dont even know me, i could be one that doent even go on that map or the best death runner on vrchat, it doesnt matter, you're complaining about the owner of a room for kicking you, who cares? the game allows him to do it, so i dont see the problem
errant sigil
It's not the owner
devout island
Why don't you do this in dms
signal wren
^
errant sigil
Because it's not a personal drama.
It's just a heated discussion.
No rules about that.,
signal wren
How about you chill and step outside for a second, ya'll snap over spilled milk.
granite coral
well, if you got kicked by voting you must have pissed a lot of people then
errant sigil
Nope, that's a misrepresentation of the situation.
signal wren
Really, Because to me honestly it looks like a 10 year old that got his toy truck taken away and is mad because something happened that he disagreed with instead of just going, oh well shit happens?
errant sigil
Yeah yeah, go away.
errant sigil
Then stop personally attacking me.
alpine cove
you've been ranting for 10 minutes now about how you get kicked from deathrun rooms because you're so much better than everyone in the room lmao
signal wren
I'm not I said He I did not say a name.
alpine cove
you've also directly attacked multiple people saying "you're just bad" when they try to refute you
so stop acting like you have the moral high ground
errant sigil
That's not a personal attack
errant sigil
implying someone is bad at a game is not a personal attack
it's a statement judging their skill level
signal wren
When your IQ is over 200
lethal meteor
Just drop this discussion.
granite coral
and to be honest, nobody cares, this is vrchat general, not deathrun pro plays
sacred dove
She came in here talking about something and you all jump on her like a pack of mole rats
alpine cove
if you guys are so good at deathrun that nobody playing death can catch you in traps, why even play?
signal wren
Talking about drama
sacred dove
That's not the case for me specifically
I'm just frustrated these morons get upset that I can glide right over the color traps
you know the ones where it's three buttons that corrospond with three colors of the floor, then later two?
Yeah right over that
but basically just that
alpine cove
no because i don't play deathrun lol
sacred dove
Well there's this function where the floor looks like sets of three piano keys. green blue red green blue red and so forth.
lethal meteor
im surprised people dont get booted for using emotes/gestures to trick the death players.
granite coral
no tempest, if you're saying something you must be playing deathrun and be bad at it
sacred dove
Press one of those buttons and only THAT color remains on the floor
signal wren
Deathrun is eh. It's fun but it shouldn't be taken as like a race to get to the finish like your going to win 1mill in cash.
errant sigil
Then why are you even responding cibbi
You're clearly looking for attention if you don't even care
sacred dove
mistral just chill
granite coral
cause i dont like people continously complaining where it's not the place
alpine cove
i just don't understand the point of playing it if you're going to hover over traps or use game geometry exploits to launch yourself
errant sigil
Fine
granite coral
and i'm bored
sacred dove
Child.
signal wren
talk about being a hypocrite ,No personal attacks guys. Processed to keep dissing another person Lol.
sacred dove
I never said any of that.
signal wren
I'm not talking to u
sacred dove
It's extremely childish to quote someone and just go"lol"
It's not an argument and you should feel bad that it came from your fingers
signal wren
"I'm NOT talking to you"
signal wren
and I'm not gonna read what you write ๐
sacred dove
Don't do me any favors.
granite coral
and right after one it's over another one starts, i will just watch this time, seems funnier
kindred glacier
So where do i get the howling avatar
signal wren
Oh no, I'm the adult I ended it before it even started ๐
errant sigil
Check in #avatars-2-general
alpine cove
@kindred glacier If you search worlds for "ahrilove", there's an avatar world with the howling ooka
you can also find the actual model on the internet, and it has all the parts to add the howl in, but you'd have to animate it yourself
signal wren
The animation can be hard if you don't know what you are doing just a heads up, and if you want to add sound there are a few videos on how to do that.
alpine cove
yeah, and all you need to do aside from adding the sound is activate a couple blendshapes
swift pulsar
DO they have any plans to do something about the model stealers / crashers / hackers yet? Its getting pretty old
alpine cove
on the readily available ooka from the internet, the blendshape to make the eyes turn into >< is called "What?"
errant sigil
That is pretty annoying
alpine cove
and you'll probably want to activate a mouth blendshape to open it
errant sigil
There's something just overly worse about crashing people because you think it's funny than anything else
You're hiking their computers hardware usage as it tries to cope
That can be considered physically damaging peoples property
It should be treated as seriously and be met with a HWID ban
both from the website and the game
If you disagree, give one good reason why not
devout island
@alpine cove Is there any other way to get it to work
errant sigil
Well
alpine cove
get what to work?
errant sigil
You could figureo ut if someone else will do it for you and send you the unity file
swift pulsar
There is a guy named Sans100 in the Underhub world right now thats well known for model stealing and crashing people, Hes been reported dozens of times, nothing ever gets done, why?
devout island
Oh wait nvm
errant sigil
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devout island
Literally what sans would do if he had such power
errant sigil
That's why
alpine cove
yep
same issue for muting
it's only for people you've muted or blocked since the last update though, i still have people blocked from weeks ago
devout island
It hasn't really been working well
leaden kiln
@errant sigil because it takes about a minute in regedit to change your hwid anytime you feel like it
gusty adder
I wonder if Iโm going overboard with an avatar
Iโm playtesting it and editing it so that the physics on it become as close to real world physics as possible
errant sigil
Then do it HWID, Mac Address, IP address and affiliated account names
Make it as hard as possible
gusty adder
With no clothes clippage and proper interactions with all body parts down to individual joints
errant sigil
It might be possible to get past it but not without a LOT of effort
leaden kiln
all can be bypassed
errant sigil
more than it's worth after a point
the human brain gives up very quickly when it sees no results
gusty adder
Spoofing MAC address is illegal also iirc
leaden kiln
no, a decent router has mac spoofing built in
errant sigil
You can not prohibit someone from doing ANYTHING with the computers hardware
If they own it, they can do what they want with it
If they want it to have a different address it's illegal to stop them
granite coral
while i completely agree to have crashers being banned by hwid (so at least theyneed to have at least a brain to bypass it) saying that's hurting your hardware isnt true, the game apart from taking a more resources it doesnt overload it, it goes to a soft crash way before, and some crashers just cause unity to crash without resource allocation but just using unhandlesd exceptions
trail stirrup
it could be worse
errant sigil
At least, for second life it was actually causing your ram and GPU to hike to normally impossible levels for what the game is usualyl capable of
trail stirrup
they could be mining bitcoin on your gpus
errant sigil
oof
granite coral
if you have bitcoin miners cause of this game the ones that should have consequences are the devs, since it would be downloaded from the server itself
trail stirrup
that actually happened in ss13, the ingame scripting system was so adaptable someone managed to make a bitcoin miner for it, only affected the server though
gusty adder
SS?
trail stirrup
space station 13
errant sigil
If VRchat staff were mining bitcoins with my 750 TI I'd sue.
You can't get it anymore and for a budget build it's infamous
gusty adder
VRChat staff arenโt dumb enough to try something like that
granite coral
actually now that i think of, if i remember right you accepted to take all the responsibilities for every kind of damage this game could cause to your pc when you agreed to the terms
errant sigil
Yes, but mining bitcoins without our knowledge would be illegal
granite coral
i'm not too sure about this one, but i remember to have read something like this
errant sigil
regardless of that terms statement
gusty adder
Well if they theoretically put it in the T&C that they could mine at any time without asking, sure. But that isnโt there so yeah. :v
tacit wing
hey is there anyway to get models to show again after the shaders glitch? or do i have to restart vrchat
gusty adder
shaders glitch?
tacit wing
something about textures with shaders disappearing
tacit wing
hell if i know, all i know is that it exists
hence why im asking if there's a way to get them to show again besides restarting vrchat
granite coral
well, in the specific case of mining yes, but in general if for example a player burns your cpu with too many particles or stuff like that (it's not possible but for the sake of the example it is) you cant sue
gusty adder
Respawning or rejoining the world or joining a different world might fix it
Not sure
errant sigil
Well
Of course you can't sue VRchat
But it's still their responsibility to stop such a thing from happening
granite coral
that's for sure
errant sigil
As there is no liability claim saying it will happen
they won't get in trouble but it's still what they need to do with or without statement
They have zero things to gain and everything to lose by letting their platform be used to commit vandalism
gusty adder
You do realize stopping malicious usage versus malicious users is like trying to plug every hole in a fishing net thatโs incredibly large?
errant sigil
What's your point
gusty adder
All that the malicious user needs is 1 vulnerability
errant sigil
Are you saying they should let the net tatter?
gusty adder
..?
errant sigil
What are you saying?
gusty adder
No Iโm saying it takes time and resources and effort and money to patch them all lmao
errant sigil
I'm not saying they have to
gusty adder
So they work on them at the rate they can
granite coral
that's like saying "since we cant catch all the assassins let's leave all of them free"
errant sigil
I'm rather saying they must take every action within their power to ban and deny service to users who exploit these to harm others property
No no
I see their point
They think I'm demanding they patch all exploits ahead of time or something
Not what I was talking about
They can patch them as they are found, but I'm saying get rid of all the mingelets with dynomite who are killing all the fish in the net.
gusty adder
Iโm fairly new to Steam so I donโt know about its terms
errant sigil
It's not steam lol
gusty adder
But do they have access to HWID
gusty adder
that could be used for HWID bans
errant sigil
you give HWID by going into the game or visiting the website
all that info is stored
anyway
that's all I'm saying
it's their responsibility to act as fast and harsh as possible to people who exploit their platform in malicious ways
There's a difference between a fun exploit and a malicious abuse of an exploit
tacit wing
what kind of abuse are we talking about
errant sigil
There's a difference between a party trick like showing someone you can unlock their car and using that to take the car and run people over
Er
Crashers
Avatar stealing is okay with me
I don't care
At all
It sounds like a superficial gripe
errant sigil
I definitely would
tacit wing
most dont care, because they dont have any attachment to their model
gusty adder
there are people who make and people who take commissions
errant sigil
It's entitled af
tacit wing
but model creators dont really like having their model just being yanked out
errant sigil
Don't upload your work to a free platform if you don't want your shit accessed
tacit wing
then distributed like it was never theirs
modest halo
i prefer not having my avatar stolen
tacit wing
but isnt it part of vrchat to personalize
granite coral
it is
modest halo
if itโs something you can get anywhere itโs not as bad
errant sigil
yeah it is
gusty adder
yeah donโt bother being creative on anything other than platforms and sites with the tightest of security guys :v
granite coral
but kids are fun and steal your avatars cause they cant do their own
errant sigil
???
If you're concerned about intellectual property don't play on a game that has entire maps ripped from video games
You're asking for it
tacit wing
inhale, you're basically saying people who want their avatar to be theirs and theirs only shouldnt upload it if they dont want it stolen... but that's the only way you can use it in vrchat assuming they made it and its the only version
gusty adder
yes maps ripped from video games outside of vrchat
not within vrchat itself
any fuck can rip stuff from other games after a quick 5m self taught how-do
granite coral
not anyone can do it decently
errant sigil
Yes, but I'm telling you that it's a pointless gripe
If you find your avatar on an avatar pedistal that's not yours you can report it
But there's nothing you can do about someone walking around with your avatar
tacit wing
wat
errant sigil
Even if you report them it's likely to be ignored for a very long time
tacit wing
im sure that's not what we're talking about though,
errant sigil
If it's not then I'm clueless what you mean
tacit wing
we're tlaking about if you make a completely unique model
granite coral
you can boop, but it's not worth to do it in this game
errant sigil
Yeah, if you make a completely unique model and find it on a pedistal that's not yours there's not much you can do about it
It's not worth it
modest halo
i play as unique avatars
errant sigil
There's too much shite
errant sigil
and it takes too long for VRchat staff to verify the avatar is your intellectual property than it's worth
If you want a unique avatar you're better off doing that kind of thing in second life
tacit wing
but still
errant sigil
Because intellectual property on VRchat means about as much as winning a game of werewolf
tacit wing
it'd be nice to be able to have a completely unique model
gusty adder
@sleek bone itโs probably because they dropped development on it
tacit wing
or atleast have one that's more difficult to rip and use
errant sigil
Sure but you're not entitled to it as much as you'd like to think, sadly.
Not so long as people are determined to deny you the snowflake crown
modest halo
just play as a character thatโs original or hard to find
sleek bone
@gusty adder nonetheless. More tools for avatar creators
errant sigil
The issue is people ripping it as it actively exists IN the game
tacit wing
im aware of that
sleek bone
๐
sleek bone
Well
alpine cove
that's why i watermarked my main avatar
gusty adder
But yeah, the dev is dropping support for it
sleek bone
We're using outdated unity
gusty adder
Because heโs working on a new project
sleek bone
Remember?
gusty adder
And yeah so it should be fine
errant sigil
Watermarking is fine
If you really want to be a snowflake make a watermark
Then it's obviously been stolen if it's not you wearing it
modest halo
idk if Iโll add watermarks on my main
gusty adder
or use shapekeys
alpine cove
you'd need a combination
gusty adder
that distort the avatar
alpine cove
the cache rip doesn't get shapekeys but can get rid of the watermark
tacit wing
you know i've seen a model
that someone tried to rip
but it just turned into some nasty weird polygon mess
modest halo
๐ค
alpine cove
yeah that's the new cats option
gusty adder
Yeah that
alpine cove
but it doesn't work perfectly, it can cause issues with your model
tacit wing
;o
gusty adder
not always but yeah
modest halo
is it automatic when you use the cats plugin or do you click anything?
gusty adder
itโs related to the outlines and using the outlines on the materials
alpine cove
you have to click a button in cats
gusty adder
nah you have to click some button
tacit wing
what kind of issues
gusty adder
It adds a shapekey
modest halo
what button
gusty adder
You set it at 100 iorc