That doesnt work in oculus
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
velvet quarry
I don't see why it wouldn't, both Oculus and Vive use Steam, and that method will work in a direct shortcut aswell.
vocal shard
Putting it into the steam launcher line also no longer works
velvet quarry
I spawn into my own private world every day
vocal shard
I tried adding it to the launch bat file and it didnt work either
Ill post ss of my launch file and steam parameters when i get home
rough pulsar
Adding options to a launch bat file can be a bit different. Maybe put it in quotes
umbral reef
Why not just right click on steam and edit it via that menu...
Should work within one of the options there
Then the normal bootup via steam should always trigger that url instead of the normal one
rough pulsar
That is the current way to do it, just add what Afromana posted to steam's launch options. Unless there's some specific reason you aren't launching from steam.
umbral reef
And well he explained the normal shortcut way
Cant think of a proper other way to run the game so
vocal shard
The rift software and steamvr always conflict
If 1 crashes they both break
If 1 is working and the other isnt then it is also broken
And the rift software is not closeable
It just relaunches automatically like a virus when you close it
floral aspen
thats not normal. Mine closes just fine
vocal shard
Well
If i hide the headgear under the desk then i can close it but if i bump it it will relaunch the stupid rift software and then unity locks up
floral aspen
thats weird. The oculus software should only launch if it detects that you are wearing the headset
fringe void
my oculus software launches whenever it detects any movement like even if i just nudge it sometimes
floral aspen
I have to either launch mine manually or actually put on the headset
golden mulch
oi
fiery ferry
@velvet quarry whats the string at the end to make invite+?
tacit plank
What do you mean batch file? You add it to the Steam launch settings.
Older worlds will use "wld_ (random numbers)" instead of "wrld_(random numbers)" though
Edit: Ugh, Discord formatting
Does anyone know the pleb (desktop) key combination for "Rock and roll"?
vocal shard
@tacit plank yes if that would actually work but it doesnt
im home now
so i will take a ss of my launcher settings
tacit plank
It should work with the right world ID (if it's invalid you're kicked to the hub)
vocal shard
o
hm
do you have the world finder api?
i need to get to a world that is listed in game but not available on the website
and i dont know how to use the api
tacit plank
Is it a persons private world?
tacit plank
Can I have the name?
vocal shard
imperial club
hasty wedge
open ur cache when ur in the map and take the ID from it directly
vocal shard
oh
tacit plank
wrld_630ddbdf-2d2f-4ad4-8242-2009c9fecf04
Sorry for the wait, it was being a pain lol
sly vapor
probably late to the party, but whats goin on with some vrchat worlds? open mic night is graffitid and gala night is on fire
indigo fern
The creators are having a little game thing or something
sly vapor
neat! i havent logged on in a few weeks, so i wondered if it was just some april fools thing gone on too long
ty for the info
indigo fern
I believe there's some graffiti in the great pug and some broken glass in avatar testing too
devout island
Don't worry there's nothing there
sly vapor
found a strange portal in gala night tho
indigo fern
jump in, bet you wont
devout island
Do it
sly vapor
already did, kinda spooked me when i pressed the button to activate the thing lol, portal that happeared just took me to the Meta Grid
tacit plank
It's 3am but I want my animation to work QQ
tacit plank
What is it in?
tacit plank
The board game?
indigo fern
ecks dee
tacit plank
That sounds super uninteresting, good luck
🔫
tacit plank
Aww, there there, you can do it
hasty wedge
tacit plank
I have two requirements to software:
1: That I do what I tell it to
2: That it doesn't do what I don't tell it to.
It's currently failing the first condition. Stupid animation won't activate my object
hasty wedge
oof
tacit plank
Wait, does it have to be on the armature to work?
It's currently on the avatar itself
tacit plank
I put a sphere on my avatar, then I disabled it, now I want to make it enable it with an animation
hasty wedge
🤔
tacit plank
I've done this quite a few times before, but now it's not working. I think it's because the object has 12 child objects
I just tried to enable it as default... The animation doesn't even play. (720 degrees of rotation over 8 seconds)
hasty wedge
devout island
Hello there
tacit plank
No, this is general
devout island
Mostly at this time you will receive help
tacit plank
You're thinking of #avatars-2-general and the successrate is closer to 25%
opaque oriole
Someone is trying to get into my account I got a email asking to reset my password from VRChat
tacit plank
Not happening for me. Nobody has my email though
opaque oriole
Someone went on the VRC site and tried to login and just pressed the reset password button
Well most likely
That's just the first time it's happen
wise trench
@tacit plank
tacit plank
Sup
tacit plank
Hello ^^
wise trench
Rare to see you here
hasty wedge
dont click that link
vocal shard
@tacit plank thanks
indigo fern
"I ain't clickin that"
indigo fern
welp, only one way to find out
hasty wedge
keylogged xd
indigo fern
ecks dee
desert escarp
any particular reason oculus rift has been crashing with vrchat constantly today?
ember rune
gotta love people using those client crash avatars... crashed not only my game, but my whole system...
floral portal
rip
jolly pelican
the werewolf hacker, Kevin strikes again
rip werewolf game
not even friends+ is safe
strange wagon
@jolly pelican we had the same issue 2 days ago
i know the name of one
reported him already
lethal meteor
rip my client. download speed is estimated 5kb/s
alpine grove
you have charter?
lethal meteor
yee
alpine grove
got that dialup speed also
alpine grove
66 for me but everything is loading slow
jagged torrent
why did my message get deleated?
lethal meteor
it just happened to me about 2 hours ago
alpine grove
same time i got hit by it also
jagged torrent
im just looking for help with an avatar
lethal meteor
post in right area
jagged torrent
which is that?
lethal meteor
jagged torrent
wait im stupid
alpine grove
it is ISP
downdetector ppl also reporting same problems
from LA to NYC but mostly LA area
lethal meteor
im in LA area 😦
alpine grove
looking at downdetector right now LA area so bright red
lethal meteor
:<
alpine grove
well charter just got back to me - As of this time, I see that a service interruption, affecting all services has been declared for your area. Though I do not have an estimated time of resolution for this issue
there goes my night of map testing and talking to friends in vrchat
lethal meteor
same here
south oyster
vocal shard
👌
lethal meteor
shy nest
no chat mod going to delete that dodgy steam link from yohance.1?
guess not. people talking about anything against the rules get insta deleted but potential phishing links are fine, good to know 👌
lethal meteor
charter back up
I clicked it, it's a steam gift card redeem link.
but, i don't think it's legit though.
shy nest
mhm, steam community links dont have hyphens
shy nest
cheers 👌
vocal shard
I cant log in :c
shy nest
settings, turn off block avatars by default
faint verge
yeah i figured it out just now im dumb
even if i take it off
this one person's model looks like a parrot
merry verge
What's the name of the world that features avatars from Made in Abyss, My Hero Academia, and Re: Zero?
DM me if you know
cyan pond
save settings
chrome jetty
anyone knows how to make avatars compatible like in the photostudio, that u can move the arms etc ?
vocal shard
huuh girls:P
mighty galleon
im straight and you still somehow turned me off even more
patent bridge
xD
regal token
Anyone know what happened to Tiz's club?
vocal shard
If it's not in the worlds list, it's probably being updated.
patent bridge
🍡
rich fossil
I find a lot of vrc tutorials on YT. But never one using the default assets.
umbral reef
As in the default avatar?
Because the only diffrence with most models are the looks and nothing else major
Also with the default one its hard to show off animations, eye tracking and mouth movements
analog patrol
@covert chasm yo I know u hate pings but im "DaRealZer0" at this rate I get my avatars stolen every day multiple times, u replied to my reddit post with a statement too. But there is this one guy called "avatar.exe" he got like multiple of my avatars, goes to gaia night everyday and uses them, I sent mails to the vrchat moderation n shit, I even have a video of it. That guy created accounts with "zero" in its name to make it look legit too.
again sorry for the ping but dm's are not working
and rhos told me u liked the shaggy I made huh
fading imp
Lemme do something
umbral reef
shy nest
when you wanna report someone but 90% of your output log is IK rig spam because your models IK rig is about as munted as the model itself 😅
jaunty apex
LUL
pseudo bobcat
tacit plank
Ctrl+F is your friend
ocean mirage
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 3984 users in VRChat currently
indigo monolith
I would like to know about those map that have MW logos. Many popular maps broken like a sh#t. Open mic night for example. What's happen? The server got hack or something?
vocal shard
They're all part of an ARG that's currently happening.
reef gale
Yea it ain’t hackers I mean why would they hack and make it look better
vocal shard
Rip
You get instant banned if you ping tupper
?
As well as pinging them for useless stuff.
Actually... was it a kick or a ban? Can't remember.
vocal shard
Was kick, ye. Just checked.
rain isle
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4058 users in VRChat currently
jaunty apex
people have pinged tupper just to say hi L U L
indigo fern
I believe I pinged him once just to say that we loved him,
Which by the way, we still do wink
stable folio
Whats the ARG?
hazy imp
Hey all- I submitted my READY PLAYER ONE - Copper Key Race for PUBLIC this morning at 2am, Hopefully it'll be made public tonight! I optimized the shit out of it, so there shouldnt be any lag at all- I wont spam post the video here but theres some vids on YouTube featuring it, feel free to check em out! Theres a Copper Key, a secret gate, a riddle, and a secret challenge to unlock the Jade World, etc. Happy gunting!
12 working vehicles, 3 Rexes, 1 Kong!
warm sigil
Anyone know how to reach "InspectorKitty"? Her/His Discord name doesn't show up when I search for it from his/her world 😦
floral aspen
@stable folio basically its a RPO inspired easter egg hunt. An evil cat named Mr. Whiskers has stolen a weapon and has been going around vandalizing different popular VRChat worlds. The pieces of the weapon have been hidden in several worlds throughout VRChat and whoever is the first to find all the pieces gets the weapon to use on their avatar
glacial reef
VRchat ready one
craggy hinge
Hi guys. Made a map yesterday that basically trapped the players and received a 7 day ban for it. Just wanted to say Sorry to everyone for this one (especially those that got trapped in it).. so yeah.. sry guys ❤ . Won't do it again. Cya in a week. 😔
flat veldt
y
stable folio
Oh that's kinda dumb
flat veldt
depends
stable folio
Oh well
solid hill
I'm in a game called "Glass house", can someone go there and send a screenshot of my avatar?
People are saying it looks abnormal/it's not loading.
flat veldt
just change and go back
solid hill
One person said they were seeing a red person. I'm curious as to what it looks like.
The game I'm in is "Glass House". I need someone to screenshot me and send it to me.
vocal shard
Ah, then something might have messed up on upload. You could try uploading it again.
solid hill
But could you do that for me just so I know what I look like to other people?
vocal shard
Sorry i'm not in game at the moment.
umbral reef
Cant you go into the avatar testing world after the game and swap to something that works for now
solid hill
I'm not in any game right now, just trying to solve this problem.
umbral reef
Well then why not jump into the avatar testing world?
Plenty of moveable camera's to check all sides
And tools to make testing easier if you know how to use them
solid hill
I've looked into the giant mirror in there.
And I've seen myself in cameras.
But that's only on my client. Other people are complaining.
umbral reef
If they complain cant they say whats scuffed?
Also the moveable camera's render all things unlike mirrors so far i know (dont quote me on it though)
solid hill
Think I might've just had to reupload it, people are saying they see it now.
Yeah, it's good now.
tacit plank
Moving cameras won't display my stencil shader
Well, at times. It seems to change depending on world and such..
vital urchin
Is anyone having problems switching avatars even after you restart vrchat right now
jaunty apex
There have been rumours of a playmaker beta soon
winged quartz
🤔
umbral reef
There are also rumors going around im not just best husbando but also best boy 
winged quartz
I read toy lmao
inner cape
PogChamp look who it is
winged quartz
It's a G-- Ghost 😨
umbral reef
It is bornato
winged quartz
Oh
inner cape
ye, I meant you
winged quartz
who am I
inner cape
Ma boi bornato
winged quartz
D- Don't call me your boy
inner cape
wot
umbral reef
Wait arent ya best toy bornato though 👀
inner cape
winged quartz
I'm no toy
umbral reef
he called me a toy earlier so
winged quartz
inner cape
So how are ye born?
inner cape
take a guess
winged quartz
Considering the fact that you usually change your avatar to suit your mood
I guess you're mad
or isn't that a mad face
inner cape
You're right, it is
winged quartz
What happened?
inner cape
I'm too lazy to explain
tacit plank
I can't change avatar all of a sudden
winged quartz
oh hi @tacit plank
tacit plank
Hello
inner cape
Must be a server issue. It does happen from time to time
tacit plank
Ah, thanks. The avatar is just a little lewd..
And I'm alright, thanks, and you?
inner cape
It just lags and youre stuck in one avatar while others can see you changing them
tacit plank
Idk if it changes for others, but I still see the old avatar when I look down
winged quartz
classic
tacit plank
Everyone crashed it seems. I had blocked the "hacker" though
winged quartz
that's why I've been keeping on not too crowded worlds
devout island
What world was it
inner cape
friends+ is best
vocal shard
Invite only is best.
vocal shard
inner cape
you wont get banned for nothing and hackers wont join u
winged quartz
you guys are too lewd
tacit plank
You can get banned in friends+? I thought they were fine for lewding
devout island
Sadly you're wrong
vocal shard
It's kind of a "public" place still. Seeing as anyone of your friends can join freely.
winged quartz
that's why I want a invites++
inner cape
Well thats what i want anyway
tacit plank
Kind of. I'd argue that it's peoples ownfault if they join a lewd person though
devout island
Can't stop the lewd
winged quartz
I just prefer invite worlds because I fuck around too much
tacit plank
Like, if a person goes into my house while I'm watching porn, that's his problem
winged quartz
and people can get triggered
so yeah
also that, @tacit plank
If everybody is okay with the state the world is, there's no reason for anyone to get banned
also
you can make friends+ on private servers
and not get banned
tacit plank
Private servers?
tacit plank
Oh, like that
inner cape
tfw im very lewd in my thoughts but i never do lewd stuff cause pride
devout island
Being lewd in thoughts is not good enough
winged quartz
I don't mind to do shit, I just don't do because I'm too much into romantism
devout island
I don't like doing lewd things
inner cape
Tsundere life shrug
winged quartz
Ikr
umbral reef
Nah ghosto your just a lille bitch ❤
inner cape
Im not your mum 🤔
winged quartz
monkas
umbral reef
Well thats only good else i would have or ded mom or id be a ghost myself
devout island
It's so boring today
devout island
College sounds rough
winged quartz
rougher when you also work
devout island
Oh that must be hard
winged quartz
I just want to have some peace already tbh
winged quartz
playing with my VR has actually been making me feel quite lonely
alpine cove
existence makes me feel lonely
devout island
I would love to play with VR
devout island
Oh well
inner cape
Been pretty busy and hectic 2 weeks. And the weekends dont help cause I get dragged out during them as well
Its only wednesday reeee
winged quartz
I wish
inner cape
My media teacher calls thrursday "thurstea" cause he gives us tea in class
umbral reef
Thats dpe
inner cape
I need to bring my huge cup that I use at home
I drain their cups in a minute
Should also tell him to do "juiceday" on tuesdays
umbral reef
ShotsFriday
inner cape
Meh
short ruin
I LOVE YOU TUPPER
charred wyvern
woah this log is neat
charred scroll
developer update, 10/10 pop filter
formal gulch
:hmm:
tardy crag
wooo! updates means I might have a reason to hop back in
charred wyvern
his avatar's looking the wrong way though
umbral reef
The cow though....
charred wyvern
ikr
inner cape
XD
small wing
I love the idea of dev updates!
Its really nice to hear what people are doing with the game
charred wyvern
https://puu.sh/A5VEg/f936877fdd.png lmao the cat
cunning sparrow
LOL!!!
charred wyvern
oh, an example cow
tardy crag
so i'm figuring he's using the built in Vive mic for that audio
cunning sparrow
Totally thought the cow would attack him
inner cape
PLAYMAKEEEER
charred wyvern
i thought he was gonna block the cow
tardy crag
I'd recommend looking into something like a Modmic 5 for professional audio recording in VR
sonic talon
Months of work with no actual updates
cunning sparrow
Uh oh, anal probe
charred wyvern
^
formal gulch
mfw comments disabled 😭
small wing
yo the little skits in the background lmao
umbral reef
Ten you even watched the vid so far?
charred wyvern
heck, i want in the closed beta
small wing
i like it aaha
devout island
@sonic talon Don't be toxic
sonic talon
LOL
wispy lance
that alien is ron right?
floral aspen
just because there were no obvious changes doesn't mean a lot of stuff wasn't changed in the background
tardy crag
it's almost like people forget VRChat is completely free with no microtransactions
sonic talon
Kids throwing around the word toxic at anything they disagree with these days
charred wyvern
vrchat home
cunning sparrow
not to mention still in Early Access !
umbral reef
Also its not like playmaker is something big 👀
charred wyvern
not to be confused with steam home
inner cape
sonic talon
All this video is is "some time in the next few updates....no actual release date yet"
small wing
I love the set home update!
formal gulch
instead of just saying someone's toxic, you could like...actually have a debate. woah
devout island
Brilliant idea
inner cape
coldfront... ?
charred wyvern
^
tardy crag
the fact that the servers have kept up as well as they have with the huge population surges is pretty remarkable
umbral reef
So they should throw around deathlines and dissapoint peeps if they cant provide a product thats properly tested and fixed before that time?
charred wyvern
it's just a world :V
formal gulch
lol
charred wyvern
true
sonic talon
A WORLD
formal gulch
wait fr?
devout island
Battle Royale in VR
covert chasm
@tardy crag Thanks for the suggestion. We actually struggled with that a bit. I'll look into the Modmic.
winged quartz
🤔
alpine cove
you're welcome to leave if the development of VRChat isn't to your liking, TenThirty.
formal gulch
Well I mean it's not like we know what's in it
tardy crag
@covert chasm I'll @ the vrchat twitter with a pic of my setup
formal gulch
...right?
charred wyvern
dev log summary: things we already have, things we haven't done yet, a map
covert chasm
please do
formal gulch
It could be a very interesting, interactive world tbh
umbral reef
@vocal shard Can i make a counter for the time when peeps complain, talk about things they dont know and ect VS when they normally talk
👀 *
floral aspen
TenThirty you do know they didn't spend months just working on world right? This is mainly a security/stability update
covert chasm
we've been working on a lot, lot, LOT more than just a new world, but coldfront is bretty gud imo
vocal shard
devout island
@sonic talon So predictable
covert chasm
you'll see soon 😃
charred wyvern
but tupper
formal gulch
understandable :thonk:
charred wyvern
you should put that stuff in the dev log
sonic talon
You guys missed the January hype bandwagon and all you have today is ideas, is this DayZ 2.0?
charred wyvern
isn't that what a dev log is for?
covert chasm
surprisingly, things aren't released until they're done 🤔
cunning sparrow
LOL benny hill
inner cape
Dat ending. Were back to 2011
umbral reef
"reeee i dont see direct updates so nothing happened'"
alpine cove
i'm sure TenThirty is busy working on his own game
formal gulch
I mean
small wing
Hey tupper, great job on the video man!
floral aspen
lol try harder TenThirty
vocal shard
Does the Security update include prevention of users purposely crashing people off of VRChat?
covert chasm
thank you 😃
formal gulch
I don't think development should be rushed just because of a population spike
small wing
Im glad yall are doing this
devout island
TenThirty is just one of those usual Twitch chat kids
winged quartz
I appreciate the work you guys are puting into the game
visual zealot
thousands of Battle Royale games ree in response to Tupper's statement of releasing non-done things
small wing
its nice to hear a little behind the scenes 😄
cunning sparrow
ciao
alpine cove
i don't see how they could prevent the crashing effectively without completely disallowing custom animations in game
opaque remnant
crashing is caused by launching a burst of compressed particles at someone
charred wyvern
i really think you should call them something other than dev logs if they're not very technical, but that's just me
alpine cove
trying to implement things like limits to particle effects, etc, would just be worked around by people with hacked clients
floral aspen
If you want to know how to do Early Access, look at the Subnautica devs. They had a public trello with every single task they were working on, and things they had planned for the future
formal gulch
Hmm...I don't know specifics, but crashing can relate to your base computer performance, can't it?
valid ember
Tuppers voice is so beautiful
opaque remnant
putting a limit on particles when uploading should fix that
sonic talon
Nevermind banning the people who use hundreds of thousands of polys per avatar, let's leave it to the players to enter a panic mode
formal gulch
Yeah, probably.
alpine cove
the limit would just be broken by hacked particles
pallid vapor
Can't wait for Playmaker 😄
alpine cove
errr, hacked clients*
gloomy pine
So what did the dev update change?
alpine cove
just like the poly limit
opaque remnant
put in a server side check?
charred wyvern
^
visual zealot
@formal gulch performance and PC doesn't matter when you can spawn X number of particles you choose with real time lighting. Your statement is true, yes, to an extent. If I missed something in the video, sorry. Still watching it 😛
winged quartz
Poly count shouldn't be the problem
opaque remnant
also polys aren't an issue, the amount of materials and meshes are
alpine cove
server side check would cause a significant performance hit because it would have to be checking constantly
charred wyvern
not really
formal gulch
@visual zealot Right, having an unlimited amount of particles, you could crash anyone's session.
charred wyvern
just when the avatar changes
vocal shard
Is Tuptup gon' be the face of DevUpdate?
opaque remnant
a one-time check on an upload shouldn't be performance intensive?
charred wyvern
or even just when it uploads, actually
floral aspen
it isn't Bornato. Tons of mesh renderers, materials, and dynamic bones are the real performance killers
umbral reef
Polies do become a problem above 50K i think as you get more draw calls as a result
charred wyvern
ofc if it's during upload it's a bit harder
opaque remnant
your body mesh splits into two in unity if you have more than 65k verticies
rugged vortex
I like this new style of vrchat dev log
umbral reef
@vocal shard Well tupper did make plenty of tutorials and ect while having a well known name within discord/twitter/in game so big odds he became there social media guy
alpine cove
i'm pretty sure there's already server-side checks on uploads, and the hacked SDK just fakes the amount of polys on the upload
inner cape
Has anyone suggested separating hand gesture overrides so for example left hand wont trigger animations set to the right one. It will potentially double the animation slots. @covert chasm
Is it hard or impossible to implement?
charred wyvern
because then there has to be a unity application on the server to load the assets and check them
winged quartz
Also poly count is only an issue on older versions of Unity
vocal shard
Guess so
inner cape
🤔
alpine cove
i don't know how the hacked sdk and clients work, but i would assume the server tries to check tri count on upload and the hacked sdk just spoofs it
charred wyvern
honstly if they could just upgrade to the latest unity sometime soon
opaque remnant
I won't mention anything about the poly limit bypass, but safe to say it has nothing to do with tricking the vrchat servers
sonic talon
Either way the devs are leaving the players to deal with it
covert chasm
@inner cape Not hard or impossible, but we want to play with the gesture overrides system more. It was basically a (couple of) weekend project that was implemented. We want to make it better, THEN open up more options. But we definitely have stuff like that in mind.
charred wyvern
i actually want to know why you guys haven't you updated to the latest unity yet
tranquil perch
😛 the lack of a ufo going after the cow at the end of the dev vid is dissapointing
inner cape
Oke! Good! Im looking forward to it then! Should get my animations ready :P
visual zealot
im curious on that Unity question also actually
kind wedge
@sonic talon I'd like for you to keep in mind that VRChat is in early access, and is comprised of a team of roughly 20 individuals. They don't have access to a large moderation body, so having the players spearhead moderation is the best answer.
alpine cove
it would be cool if the gesture override system had a menu attached to it, so you could upload multiple gesture overrides to a model and pick which ones to use and which gestures they override in game
floral aspen
wiggle updating to the latest unity version is going to be a very long and involved process. It is not an easy task
alpine cove
i know some people who have like, 8 versions of the same avatar to account for multiple gesture overrides
floral aspen
plus it will most likely break all the current content
charred wyvern
why's that? there are minimal api changes
kind wedge
We can only ban those who get reported, so please report any users you see breaking the rules.
fair magnet
@alpine cove one of them is me
visual zealot
Although @charred wyvern I have seen some mobile games that are built in the same version of Unity, funny enough
opaque remnant
I have multiple versions of the same avatars, but that's mostly for scaling
charred wyvern
i've upgraded all my projects with literally nothing broken
alpine cove
but idk how complex it would be to implement a menu system like that
umbral reef
@alpine cove Thats kinda how i live
All my animations are on diffrent versions of my main avatar 😂
alpine cove
i should probably post that in the feature suggestion channel
devout island
@charred wyvern You must be even better than the developers themselves then
umbral reef
I have then named | A | B | C and ect
floral aspen
upgrading your personal project, and updating VRChat to support the latest version of unity are two completely different things
alpine cove
i only ever override fist and rock and roll tbh
because i accidentally trigger the other gestures constantly
opaque remnant
I leave fist alone but change the rest including idle
inner cape
The chat got so active all of a sudden, woah
charred wyvern
tidus, there shouldn't be a bit of difference between how unity reimports vrchat and a small project
floral aspen
well, the devs did just post an update vid
indigo fern
That's what happens when Tupper drops the hottest mix tape of 2018
soft turret
heyyyy where my coldfront
devout island
@charred wyvern If you're such a genius then why don't you join their team
kind wedge
VRChat uses various scripts and APIs designed for Unity 5.6. New versions of unity may not support or may have changed those APIs, requiring massive rewrites and restructuring of the program.
floral aspen
^^^^^^^^^THIS
frosty kettle
I feel like everyone is going to say this but Like they really need a pop filter in the next developer update
kind wedge
These things, they take time.
charred wyvern
thank you, actual dev team member
devout island
Don't say stuff without knowing first
charred wyvern
for answering my question directed to you
floral aspen
compat isn't a dev member, just a mod
sonic talon
Looks like nobody knows at all what they're talking about lol
alpine cove
updating a single unity project to a new version might not be too complex
updating an entire game that uses multiple unity projects, on the other hand
inner cape
He be a chat mod but he just knows how it works
devout island
^
inner cape
I suppose
analog patrol
no word on hackers, server encryption, open API...
I mean I like that they are communicating but please
umbral reef
They@frosty kettle They already got suggested tips for better recording software so im sure they will start using that stuff also 😂
Or atleast record in a small room or with blankets over him
charred wyvern
he's more reliable than a random community member >_>
frosty kettle
Yeah I assumed they're not dumb
charred wyvern
in the same way, don't get all offended at me either
floral aspen
no one was getting offended at you
charred wyvern
i never said i know what i'm talking about :P
inner cape
Well some people can be smart as well ya know
tardy crag
Hey Tupper, I tweeted you guys a couple pictures of my mic setup, the modmic 5 is really good sounding compared to the built in Vive mic, pretty much eliminates all the popping sounds
frosty kettle
each dev update will probably be better than the rest
kind wedge
@analog patrol security systems like that have to be obfuscated as a way to keep those malicious users out of the know. I'm sorry, but it's just the way it is.
short ruin
better than no dev update vid amirite 👌
kind wedge
Hey kuro
severe cloud
sonic talon
I sense DayZ devblogs just rehashing the same shit every time talking about the ideas they have for years
charred wyvern
ghosto, but the difference is how much the person knows about the vrchat internals
severe cloud
tupper was looking 👌🏻 in that dev vlog
analog patrol
a basic server side encyption should not be hard tho
when pipelining the avatar upload
kind wedge
Backend team is always hard at work from what I've been told.
charred wyvern
comp knows much more than tidus could, so they're a more reliable source
alpine cove
What a coincidence TenThirty, you've been rehashing the same shit for 10 minutes with literally nobody responding to you
tidal aspen
can't wait for cp_coldfront
analog patrol
aight thx
charred wyvern
on this topic, that is
floral aspen
you don't even know me wiggle
severe cloud
or me
sonic talon
You just did Tempest
charred wyvern
i know your chat roles
analog patrol
its just annoying seeng people with my avatars every single day
floral aspen
and?
umbral reef
Honest to god
This chat at times is more dumb then people i work with and those people cause around 1K of broken machines a week 
Cant get why people fully ignorantly proclaim that the team has to do X or Y thing while having bare understanding of it and when they know something about the topic i still dont see anyone giving solutions to fix it...
charred wyvern
therefore i know you don't have involvement with vrchat's team
sonic talon
Oclac everybody is inferior to you almighty being
analog patrol
@umbral reef vrchat community in a nutshell
severe cloud
i can say with confidence that vrchat team is working on stuff :^)
umbral reef
Bruh im a piece of shit myself
floral aspen
I don't have to be involved with the team to know updating from 5.6 to the newest version isn't like flipping a switch
severe cloud
many things
alpine cove
unfortunately, i think the avatar stealing issue would require a rework of how models in vrchat work in general
severe cloud
you might even call them updates
umbral reef
I atleast dont complain to complain
If you want to help the team give them thought out idea's instead
charred wyvern
i never said they had to update to the latest unity
alpine cove
because it would require a change from the pipeline system
tidal aspen
it's easier to talk about ways to improve something you know nothing about
charred wyvern
i was asking why they hadn't
fair magnet
so playmaker, how does one get to access to the beta version
analog patrol
Tupper is typing MonkaS
sonic talon
What about hackers stealing people's passwords, why is nothing being done about that
charred wyvern
make better passwords
covert chasm
Compat is right. Backend is extremely, extremely busy all the time-- but then again, the whole team is constantly busy. I've been a fan of a lot of smaller dev teams over the years, and I know how it seems: if I don't see updates, its easy to assume that nothing is being done. But that's almost never the case (and DEFINITELY not the case with VRChat)
tidal aspen
don't make your password qwerty
severe cloud
im assuming u need to be gooder at unity and a positive and active and trustworthy community member :^(
umbral reef
@sonic talon First time i ever hear about that in here....
sonic talon
They rip the password from the game dude
tidal aspen
🤔
alpine cove
i've never heard of anyone getting their password taken from vrchat lol
floral aspen
and I told you why. its a complex task and its going to take a long time. Last time they did a unity update it broke everything
umbral reef
Since when do passwords get stored in text format client side then?
analog patrol
I know stuff is done in the background, this does not excuse that there is no basic encyption
tidal aspen
all passwords are synced and stored locally in a txt file :^)
kind wedge
@fair magnet beta testers have already been chosen. There is no way to apply at this time.
charred wyvern
even if your password is in plaintext on clientside, it's your fault for getting malicious software
severe cloud
if ur worried about ur password then change it
umbral reef
also its not like you should never have the same password on two places... Free password managers you know
tidal aspen
keepass 👌
severe cloud
best decision ever
fair magnet
well im still learning but id love it if weathn could get it to put duel world back up
alpine cove
over 13,000 people in this discord, pretty sure if people were getting their passwords stolen over vrchat more people would be talking about it lol
sonic talon
People who steal avatars have access to your account
pallid cape
coldfront not released yet?
severe cloud
wat
alpine cove
that's not how it works lol
severe cloud
where did you get that idea LOL
alpine cove
at most they have access to the blueprint id of your model
charred wyvern
like he has databases full of credentials and stuff
umbral reef
Your really misinformed about it...
kind wedge
@sonic talon this is untrue.
analog patrol
u dont need access to any account to get the avatar, thats the sad thing
alpine cove
but in general they're ripping the unitypackage itself from the cache
severe cloud
dont scare people lol
umbral reef
@kind wedge Go to any company that deals with personal information and big odds you can get an insane amount of information from strangers by digging true trash...
desert escarp
wait, panic mode is supposed to mute people?
sonic talon
LOL You can just rip the avatar from somebody without even needing a password
analog patrol
even if u delete your avatar its still on the server, just marked as "hidden" hence hacker have more access to avatars then creators
severe cloud
panic blocks and mutes nonfriends
analog patrol
thats the sad part
desert escarp
that hasnt happened
alpine cove
yeah wakabaka, but it's a bit slow
desert escarp
it doesnt work
severe cloud
its automatically checks the boxes in system settings
alpine cove
it blocks avatars instantly
desert escarp
it just does avatars
alpine cove
but the mute takes a few seconds to kick in
kind wedge
There's hasn't been any reports of passwords being stolen straight from the game files. If you have experienced this, please contact us via email.
desert escarp
nopwe
alpine cove
in my experience, at least
desert escarp
not even a few seconds
umbral reef
@sonic talon They get rendered client side
So those files are client side. Tl;dr shitty version they rip those files isntead
desert escarp
it just never kicks in
analog patrol
Compatible he is just talking nonsense
since u can grab avatars from the cache and the Api that is open u can grab anything without any logins at all
there is no need for account theft
tidal aspen
If someone's password was taken from this game that just means they have a shitty password
analog patrol
since its just open
severe cloud
my password is amazing
charred wyvern
^ dafirex
alpine cove
someone's password wasn't taken from this game, period. if you got your password grabbed, you've been going to shady sites or downloading shady programs.
severe cloud
Password1!
floral aspen
yup. The cache is unencrypted and the sdk isn't obfuscated at all. Easy to rip avatars if you know what you're doing
severe cloud
unhackable tbh
analog patrol
right now I can get your avatar with 1 line into the browser when I have your avatar ID, no software no nothing needed
sonic talon
I just remember seeing a guy selling accounts he stole with avatars over the limit by hundreds of thousands of polys
He said he stole them with hacks
charred wyvern
did you know if you type your vrchat password in discord it censors it? here's mine: ----------
severe cloud
the vrcbot censors your password if you type it in discord though
umbral reef
To be fair
The server side part from VRC is really well made from what i have seen/heard so far
severe cloud
mine is *************
charred wyvern
lol gg kuro
severe cloud
ez
tidal aspen
I can say I did that too
doesn't mean it's true
alpine cove
don't encourage people to type their password with jokes
lilac swan
My old password on runescape when I were a kid was to hold "Q" until I couldn't input more characters
vocal shard
When is that "room hub" thing going to come out?
severe cloud
LOL
charred wyvern
we used the same meme lmao
floral aspen
lol zarniwoop
analog patrol
my password is "incorrect" so when I type it wrong, it says "your password is incorrect"
winged quartz
and did you ever get hacked @lilac swan
lilac swan
no
winged quartz
lmao
lilac swan
it was genius
umbral reef
@lilac swan Big odds that was a secure password for that time 😂
sonic talon
I'm not saying they guessed a passowrd, that's stupid as fuck
pallid vapor
Hahaha
alpine cove
sounds real insecure, Zarni. You should have deleted the last Q and made it a q instead
tidal aspen
who was a qwerty boy here
alpine cove
ez security
charred wyvern
big odds sounds like a rapper
severe cloud
me tbh
alpine cove
NO EXCUSE
analog patrol
zarnis public avatars are on the hacking tool, but not a single private one was stolen
severe cloud
13 y/o me just used qwertyuiop1 for a long time
fair magnet
Qwerty1234
analog patrol
about like 40 I guess
pallid vapor
My Netflix password is 64 characters long. Even if someone has the password, they'll probably give up before entering it properly 😄
alpine cove
someone snagged my solid snake avatar from me in a Pug
umbral reef
I always used a part of the programs name, one of the 12 number combo's i use and an object from the game
alpine cove
feels bad, man
desert escarp
wait a second
umbral reef
Now i just use random passwords most of the time
severe cloud
logging onto netflix with a remote LUL
charred wyvern
rip tempest
analog patrol
Tempest whats your ign?
desert escarp
I should make pizza
alpine cove
tempissed
analog patrol
lel
charred wyvern
best ign
analog patrol
in game name
winged quartz
yeah
severe cloud
i lost my old rs account from 5th grade :(
lilac swan
Should be ~90, since that's how many I got on my avatar world
severe cloud
i guess it was wiped imma cri
analog patrol
yeah
pallid vapor
Yea, I gave up adding Netflix into my TV directly T_T
sonic talon
Runescape is pathetic
alpine cove
I'm not sure if they got it via cache or via the hacked client though.
severe cloud
go updoot if ur not gei https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests/p/youtube-timestamp-support-in-videosync-panels
alpine cove
because they reloaded into the world with it, so they may have cache ripped it and had to log out to update it
charred wyvern
one of my friends used to host a runescape private server
analog patrol
Tempest u are lucky none of ur avatars are stolen by 1 specific popular hack
alpine cove
well i only have two avatars that had any amount of work put into them really
analog patrol
yeah still
charred wyvern
mei, what happens when they're stolen?
alpine cove
i'm not super concerned about it personally, but i'm chill about stuff like that
severe cloud
even if someone stole my avatar atleast theyd have a decent model i can look at instead of these disgusting ones
alpine cove
i know i made them so i don't really care too much if someone else nabs them
analog patrol
they have the cache file and everyone that uses that hack can use them ingame @charred wyvern
sonic talon
What about people who can edit their username and impersonate game devs?
analog patrol
so everyone that has the hack can grab avatars and makes them available for everyone else
fair magnet
they cant steal your avatars if you make your avatars publically available
alpine cove
actually, i don't think this guy did rip my thing from the cache because he had my animations too, i thought the cache rip method didn't get animations
charred wyvern
that's upsetting
but i have a foolproof way to keep people from getting my avatars
severe cloud
cant steal your avatar if you use default vrc ones
analog patrol
@sonic talon the mod thingy is also pretty easy, the "mod" role is just a simple value that can be increased, boom you are a mod
charred wyvern
they all suck, so nobody wants them
floral aspen
lol I guess thats one way to do it
alpine cove
see wiggle knows
tidal aspen
changing names is only visual, and if you click on them you'll see their real name
charred wyvern
lol
vocal shard
That cow. Just.... That cow. I'm sorry but i'm in stiches right now.
tidal aspen
don't think that they can even do that anymore
analog patrol
tempest too late, https://imgur.com/a/slqDn I have a whole album of hackers stealing my stuff
sonic talon
I'm talking about people in-game who edit their names to something like "VRPill" and walk around telling people they're being banned
severe cloud
all the "cool" avatars use the same prefabs that are publicly available anyway
analog patrol
nope
charred wyvern
vivi is best ff character
tidal aspen
some people make really cool shit
floral aspen
I'm best FF character
analog patrol
with my own mix that I made
severe cloud
ew thats a lot of keyframing
analog patrol
not using a single prefab
charred wyvern
so he can kick a ball underwater
tidal aspen
but now you can just assume every cool avatar is stolen :^)
alpine cove
i have a soldier 76 in booty shorts with wolf ears and a tail :^)
floral aspen
Tidus is best
fite me
dreamy adder
Thanks for the VRChat Developer Update @covert chasm o/ Great news 😄
iron heart
ez
analog patrol
keyframing was ok, it was more getting the ideas
analog patrol
Kuro wanna see some of my stuff?
sonic talon
How can people with nude avatars be banned quickly but people over the limit are fine?
severe cloud
sure why not
floral aspen
vivi is just some mass produced magic midget
severe cloud
im not busy for another 3 hours
umbral reef
As its easier to check one?
analog patrol
wanna add me ingame?
severe cloud
KuroUsagi in game
umbral reef
And its apain to check the other one/
umbral reef
Also one gets reported proplerly while the other one doesnt?
charred wyvern
true vr-ready pcs usually don't have issues with people who go over the limit
severe cloud
i have 4 monitors and i have to unplug 2 so i dont get an ipc connector failure error thing
pretty dumb
severe cloud
drawcall limiter is a better idea than raising polylimit
floral aspen
because being over the limit on its own isn't really a big performance hit
umbral reef
Are not VRC-ready machines most of the time
sonic talon
I'm a big fan of those custom animations with thousands of particles that drop everyone's FPS to 1
charred wyvern
true
alpine cove
unfortunately, any 'limit' implemented versus a straight up disable will just be bypassed with a hacked client
tidal aspen
polycount doesn't affect people as much as drawcalls
umbral reef
Then report them~~
tidal aspen
since this game is cpu heavy
alpine cove
and hacked clients aren't exactly easy to detect
severe cloud
the point of the limiter is for the majority of the community not the few
charred wyvern
i guess vrc ready is different than vr ready
tidal aspen
just get a 6ghz single core cpu and you're good 👌
charred wyvern
you really can't even check with a checksum, because the client can just lie
severe cloud
malicious people will always exist but theyre such a minority that they hopefully wouldnt affect many and would be caught
floral aspen
I have yet to encounter one of these hackers in game
alpine cove
i report everyone who crashes my game, at least
severe cloud
^
charred wyvern
malicious people aren't a minority in vrchat
severe cloud
ive only encountered memesters who think theyre cool for using shader bugs
charred wyvern
there's uganda
umbral reef
Well VRC currently focuses a lot on single core CPU power
Most Vr machines dont focus at all on that 😂
analog patrol
@severe cloud added you my ign is DaRealZer0
severe cloud
mk be on in a min
winged quartz
vr machine broke
alpine cove
oh hey, i think i've seen you around in game Mei
floral aspen
Once VRC can take advantage of multiple cores we'll see huge performance gains
alpine cove
name seems familiar, anyway
charred wyvern
^
analog patrol
prolly alot of people know me already
alpine cove
I think VRC's multi-core issue is a unity-based issue, isn't it?
floral aspen
it is
analog patrol
yeah
charred wyvern
except unity in general can't really multi-core
analog patrol
the current version is not using alot of cores
umbral reef
@alpine cove Jup
analog patrol
some say it only uses 1
floral aspen
it can in 2018 thanks to the new job system
analog patrol
dunno tho
winged quartz
Unity is a meme :lul:
alpine cove
oh man, can I make my Unity a Dragoon, Tidus?
inner cape
Youre a meme
alpine cove
:^)
charred wyvern
unity really is a bit disappointing as far as threading goes
winged quartz
Thanks @inner cape
inner cape
Always o/
devout python
idk compared to a year ago Vrchat has changed a lot.
floral aspen
I mean, I guess you can try Tempest lol
charred wyvern
rip building a little fort under the table in the old hub
alpine cove
i wish there was a reliable way for me to get my FFXIV character's 3d model and make them a VRC avatar.
floral aspen
@idle meadow textools can do that
alpine cove
that'd be dope
charred wyvern
import vivi
alpine cove
hmmm, maybe I'll look into it
floral aspen
I have my FFXIV avatar in game
severe cloud
yo
alpine cove
oh nice
vague slate
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
severe cloud
did steamvr beta fix the oculus controller glitch
floral aspen
what was the glitch?
alpine cove
did you follow a specific guide for that Tidus, or just toy with it until you figured it out?
umbral reef
Would it be worth to just go fresh into learning how to make worlds for VRC and while doing it learn blender or first learn blender and then world making
severe cloud
right controller didnt work with gestures
floral aspen
I just toyed with it
alpine cove
i haven't had any issues doing right controller gestures in game
and I've got a Rift.
charred wyvern
i tried using a leap motion controller emulator
alpine cove
i primarily use my right hand because I'm right-handed
severe cloud
on beta svr
charred wyvern
it was pain
floral aspen
extracting the models isn't super hard, its finding them thats the tedious part
severe cloud
iono
alpine cove
oh, not sure if I'm running that
severe cloud
i just left beta branch
devout python
sometimes i go to the old hub and stand around alone and remember a time before the meme's.
floral aspen
I've never had an issue with my right controller not doing gestures
severe cloud
q.q
alpine cove
i'll see if i can figure it out this weekend then
severe cloud
was only on beta brnahc
alpine cove
i'd love to have my Dragoon as my VRC avatar
alpine cove
i found a pretty reliable way to get WoW models, so I'm gonna make an avatar out of my WoW character too
floral aspen
@alpine cove also keep in mind your head, hair, body, arms, legs, and weapons are all stored as separate meshes
floral aspen
and FFXIV uses specular shaders
so be sure and set the standard shader in unity to specular
umbral reef
👀 Ey look chat calmed down
alpine cove
My only regret now is that the rift doesn’t have waist or foot trackers
umbral reef
Closed beta
manic cloud
Y'all know how to remove a custom made character?
umbral reef
The same way you upload it
Within unity with the SDK
manic cloud
How exactly
kind folio
Go to the SDK, click Manage Uplaoded Content
devout python
you go into manage builds and click delete
kind folio
and click delete on the avatar.
umbral reef
Ay other peeps helping that have used unity within the past month 
manic cloud
Much appreciated
umbral reef
Might be usefull if they help you isntead
kind folio
np
manic cloud
I messed up the camera on this character and couldn't open the vrchat menu
devout python
couldn't you just move the position of the avatar descriptor
mellow steeple
for some reason, i spawn to Hub instead of Home.
devout python
the update is not up yet
mellow steeple
oh. i see
devout python
i would tell you when the update will launch but idk
winged quartz
🤔
winged quartz
ded
lilac swan
Tide comes in tide comes out.
devout island
All the newbies disappeared
indigo fern
everyone got their complaints out
winged quartz
The biggest complaint nobody even tried saying anything about 😂
indigo fern
Well, it's been about 2 hours
torn cape
Y'know, I thought VRChat would die off after its sudden surge in popularity, but I'm happy to see it's still actively being played
Here's to making it like the OASIS 🤔
inner cape
Dis man doesnt have faith