vrchat-general-2

[strange wagon]

20k polys are a joke too

[vocal shard]

yep

it's like

a 20kilo pixel camera

in 2018

20k+ is fine in non-public rooms

[dull oar]

I wish they'd just have an option to block anyone with more than 20k polys in menu so ppl with potato computers dont crash

[vocal shard]

And realistically, everything below 65k is fine for performance

[strange wagon]

yep

[dull oar]

but the big poly avatars are always the coolest

[vocal shard]

you don't crash cuz of polys

[shy nest]

legit saw a model i use (which i painfully got to 20k) with everything still on it. model itself was like 90k untouched so they'd be rocking 50-60k at most

[vocal shard]

and if you do you shouldn't play vrc with that machine to begin with

or anything else

a 65k avatar with a texture atlas runs better than a 5k poly avatar with many textures

[strange wagon]

i mean

i understand safe mode for streamers

[dull oar]

oh... then why do polys matter if they don't crash ppl

[strange wagon]

but like

[rough pulsar]

The reasoning behind the 20k limit staying is that it forces users to look into avatar optimization. Otherwise everyone and their horse could upload some 60k MMD disaster with 500 materials and 60 textures.

[hasty wedge]

cause poly limit is a meme xd

[strange wagon]

going into public worlds in safemode with your 1 person

it's so scummy imo

when they are like

"yea i blocked everyone"

[shy nest]

well enforce a fucking material limit

[vocal shard]

Reasonable thought process actually

[strange wagon]

i always think like

"what are you even doing here then"

[vocal shard]

yeah love these ppl

[rough pulsar]

It's funny because a material limit would help more than a poly limit.

[vocal shard]

what would a good limit be?

[rough pulsar]

Anything over 5 is just ridiculous.

[strange wagon]

Gallium do you have any inside-ish info on security updates 👀

[dull oar]

5 materials?

[vocal shard]

Above (2^15)-1 (65535) polygons doubles the drawcount

[rough pulsar]

My avatar is 4 and that's because I have 4 different shaders.

[hasty wedge]

but wut if i wanna extra things all around

10 limit

[rough pulsar]

10 should be a "I know wtf I'm doing, let me do it" kind of limit.

[hasty wedge]

ye

[dull oar]

So are you saying combining materials that use the same shader into one actually makes it faster?

[rough pulsar]

Yes.

[vocal shard]

Most avatars have 10-15 textures, which could be 3-4 if merged in Blender (which is really easy, see tuppers optimization tutorial). If everyone did this, then the average FPS would more than double

[grand turtle]

baking

[vocal shard]

10-15 textires

wat

[rough pulsar]

Textures aren't as bad as materials when there ends up a lot of them.

[vocal shard]

Well, materials created in unity when I draw them in. At least 10 for most avatars

oh

eh

¯_(ツ)_/¯

then you didn't atlas properly, and I don't mean atlassing everything into one, just atlassing the same stuff into one

Texture atlasing is even better, reduces it to just 1. A bit more difficult to do though

atlasing is DansGame

I get 10-15 textures when I don't merge textures. Didn't know of it until lately lol

not atlassing is rude and amateur

[strange wagon]

idk. before even thinking about performance or content or QoL i still feel like security is alarming priority atm

[vital rune]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[strange wagon]

it's super ridicilous

[vocal shard]

Will merge from now though. Atlas if it doesn't break the avatar or take hours to get working

so being amateur is rude

[hasty wedge]

QoL should be priority imo

[rough pulsar]

If you aren't atlassing you're being lazy, if you have multiple materials with the exact same shader on them, also lazy.

[vocal shard]

FeelsBadMan

[hasty wedge]

cause theyll just break the security more and more

[vocal shard]

@strange wagon the new cats plugin has a built in copy protection thing ... look into it

[shy nest]

what security

[hasty wedge]

gud point

OMEGALUL

[strange wagon]

@vocal shard nani?

[vocal shard]

yup

since yesterday

[strange wagon]

how does that work

i got the new update though

[hasty wedge]

something something they cant get ur shapekeys when taking the model

[shy nest]

uses keyshapes, model rippers cant rip keyshapes

[dull oar]

wait what?

they cant?

[rough pulsar]

It basically mangles the mesh up with a way to deform it back into the proper shape. But the correcting shape key can't be ripped currently.

[vocal shard]

here https://github.com/michaeldegroot/cats-blender-plugin#copy-protection

it's good shit everybody ... use it

[dull oar]

that's awesome!

thanks!

[strange wagon]

so basically

i have to put all of my avatars back into blender?

or the fbx rather

[hasty wedge]

if u rlly care about ppl not stealing then i guess

[shy nest]

if you want the copy protection yeah

[rough pulsar]

imagine how silly it would be to not keep the original blender file

ha ha ha

[strange wagon]

on my frequent ones hell yeah

well yea original

i can just replace the fbx*

[vocal shard]

monikaS

[dull oar]

monika?

[vocal shard]

Get a 4TB hdd. You will never delete anything again

[vital rune]

I never updated my CATS

[strange wagon]

that's one problem kind of out of the way

[rough pulsar]

6TB aw yeah

[vocal shard]

Nice

[hasty wedge]

when u only have 1 tb KannaBlob

[strange wagon]

the invisible players that are unmuteable are ridicilous though

[vocal shard]

4tb is nothing

[rough pulsar]

also slowly adding my other storage drives as part of an LVM group so massive drive incoming

[vocal shard]

if you record some shit it's gone within a week 😭

[shy nest]

thats another thing, cant wait for the day where we can move the cache crap from appdata without doing a link

[strange wagon]

@vocal shard so it does the copy protection automatically when exporting or do i need to do extra stuff?

[vocal shard]

The only files which take real space on my HDD is movie/anime torrents, complete directory backups and steam games. Everything else is a few 100 gigs after 4 years

[dull oar]

I wonder how these trolls come about. They have to know enough about VRChat to know how to hack their client... which means they also know enough to know how shitty they're being

[shy nest]

torrents

[vocal shard]

teach me sempai

[rough pulsar]

@shy nest the cache should be limited to 10GB

[strange wagon]

everytime i check it's like 10-20

[shy nest]

has it been? mine goes past that. hell the link doesnt even seem to work

[vocal shard]

Lol yeah I need to delete the cache again, it's like 30gb now

[rough pulsar]

Also trolls come with popularity.
And considering the surge vrchat had earlier this year

[vocal shard]

40 :S

@strange wagon you have to be finished in blender and do a couple of steps to have it on

[strange wagon]

need to delete it often cause my ssd is smol

oof.

what do i need to do?

[vocal shard]

it's in the link I posted

[strange wagon]

ah

[shy nest]

!clearcache

o

dont know the command

[vocal shard]

!cleancache

[floral flax]

You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat

[shy nest]

thats it

[vocal shard]

People that try to steal your avatar will then only see a box of mangled waifu trash instead of your original character.

lmao

😄

10/10

[strange wagon]

oh damn

[shy nest]

wow didnt know chef coach and sanic are waifu trash

[strange wagon]

now i want ppl to steal my protected avatars lol

[shy nest]

you wont see anything change in game

if they try to use a program to extract the model then thats when it fucks em

because they'll chuck it in their model software of choice and see crap

[vocal shard]

it's something

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it works like this, it fucks up your polys but makes a blendshape that corrects that ... the blendshape will always be at 100 in game but you can't rip blendshapes so rippers will see the mess only

Thing is, usually the assholes are desktoppers

[dull oar]

Can you do it manually? Is it really that simple?

[vocal shard]

"desktoppers" lul

manually would take a lot of time but you could, sure

[shy nest]

they could but boy if it they do a FULL copy protection, it'll be more work for a model

[vocal shard]

VR-only worlds would be interesting, as a tag which world-devs could apply

but yeah it's true

I haven’t run into people with VR who went out of their way to be dingleberries, save a scant few exceptions

[dull oar]

I think its because its harder to use a keyboard in VR lol

harder to have soundboards and harder to hack

[vocal shard]

You’re also more invested

[shy nest]

vr only worlds would be utopias almost always rid of gore shaders/crashers ect... until hackers get past the tag 😅

[rough pulsar]

That's because VR users have sunk a fair bit of money into the ability to be here so getting kicked out is a bigger loss.

[vocal shard]

VR people are usually interested in the game rather than in making people angry

[vital rune]

inb4 desktoppers who have nothing to do with malicious acts also gets affected

[strange wagon]

it's actually only desktoppers that i have seen that ruin shit

[shy nest]

i call them pancakers

[strange wagon]

there are also vr users but it's mostly just weird avatars

and it's mostly funny

idk

[dull oar]

Can you make a url that launches a private world? We could start making a poor man's VIP VRChat club

[hasty wedge]

vr only worlds would be god then again it splits the community oof

[vital rune]

no fucking shit

and splitting the community would create more problems than it solves

[rough pulsar]

In theory, it would be possible to make VR-only spaces by making access something that requires abilities only users with motion controllers can perform.

[strange wagon]

yea but if 5 out of 1 desktop user is a C and 1 out of 1000 in vr then idk about you but.... 👀

[vocal shard]

Good point Gallium

[dull oar]

Oh Gallium you're right, like hitting a button that's inside a box or something like that

[vital rune]

except every theory has its downsides

what if some arsehole decides to make a world that every trigger is only for VR users

[rough pulsar]

That's one way, another would be two triggers you have to activate together.

[vital rune]

while desktoppers are like literally trapped on a room

[vocal shard]

Hitboxes overlap on Desktop, but in VRChat you can grab objects behind other objects

[vital rune]

unable to do anything because every trigger is only exclusive to VR users

[vocal shard]

Also you can only bring items with you to another room in VR

[dull oar]

man life sucks for desktoppers lol

[strange wagon]

i couldn't play vrchat without vr

[vocal shard]

why do all desktoppers have the zoomies? 🤔

A bit on that area... But it's a free game, and it's still fun on Desktop, and it would be best if VR was still attractive to get, etc

[dull oar]

I honestly don't get what they get out of VRChat without the VR part. Some don't even have mics, so they don't even have the Chat part

[vital rune]

ahem

[strange wagon]

it's basically just rp voice chat at this point

[shy nest]

i played pancake vrchat just recently because i had a hardware error on my HMD and needed to send it back and boy its disorienting

[vital rune]

I dont have a mic because 1. my headphones is kaput and 2. my mic is broken

[dull oar]

rip

[shy nest]

felt myself getting closer to my screen because it felt like the menu was so damn far away

[dull oar]

feels bad man

[vital rune]

now forced to use some chepass earphones

[rough pulsar]

The only thing I don't like about desktop users is I have to figure out the subtleties of what they mean by their tone of voice alone.
There's no body language to help with that.

[strange wagon]

kaputt 👀

[vital rune]

the only way they can truly communicate

[rough pulsar]

And that's not really their fault either.

[vocal shard]

they don't stand still and get up in your face

[vital rune]

is by writing

which is extremely limited

considering Presentation Room is the only world that lets you write all you want

sure other worlds can let you write but by small amounts

[grand turtle]

can i not use a mic as desktop user?

[shy nest]

oh yeah one thing i dislike about vr users most of the time, why do so many sit? you can be so much more expressive standing

[vital rune]

its called preserving your leg stamina

[shy nest]

i hate sitting in vr because it ruins the whole point for me

[vocal shard]

because you get tired standing for hours

[dull oar]

I love that awkward crouch walk though hahahaha

[strange wagon]

being a mute in vr is ok since you have body language + snail marker. but being mute on desktop is like.... why..

[vocal shard]

Sitting is fun

5h in vr

[vital rune]

@strange wagon ahem

[vocal shard]

all standing

[rough pulsar]

I sit quite a lot.
Then again I'm always in VR with FBT so it shows if I'm actually sitting and how.

[vital rune]

mute guy here

[vocal shard]

ez

[strange wagon]

well unless you're actually mute

[shy nest]

i always stand, no matter how long it is

[vocal shard]

strong boi

show leg pics

[vital rune]

I'm only mute because 1. no text chat. 2. broken mic. 3. headphone kaput

[vocal shard]

\o/

[dull oar]

Some people don't talk because they don't like revealing they're a trap... but we already know

[hasty wedge]

when ppl sit down irl but they keep their model standing up instead of crouch like so they have those scuffed hands

[vocal shard]

FBT guys always show off by pulling some amazing sitting or laying pose

[hasty wedge]

🤢

[strange wagon]

so the mic is broken and the headphones are kaputt? 👀

[rough pulsar]

amazing, don't you mean unfathomably sexy? :B

[shy nest]

i call fbt's "money bags"

[vocal shard]

trap machine broke

[vital rune]

my mic broke first

then my headphones

[vocal shard]

Sure 😛

[shy nest]

because three trackers in AU is like $500

[vocal shard]

that's a steal

[dull oar]

wait... @vital rune do you only draw to communicate?

[vocal shard]

You can get FBT for only 500?

[strange wagon]

you can get fullbody for ~150

[vocal shard]

Regular vive kit is almost 900 here

u wot

enlighten me shioro

[strange wagon]

with kinectone

[shy nest]

i aint using kinect garbage

[rough pulsar]

kinect tracking probably.

[vocal shard]

nvm

lol

[strange wagon]

360 kinect is garbage

one kinect is pretty legit

[rough pulsar]

it works, but isn't close to the trackers.

[strange wagon]

well

[shy nest]

may aswell just use an eyetoy from ps2

[strange wagon]

you can't ofc dance like forceable

but you can do alot of stuff still

[vocal shard]

eye toy

[dull oar]

Are you able to turn FBT on and off at will?

[vocal shard]

oh boi

that was the time

[strange wagon]

tracks rotations etc.

[rough pulsar]

turn the trackers off I guess?

[dull oar]

And it won't fuck anything up?

[rough pulsar]

You'll have to switch avatars to make vrchat switch you to the regular rig instead of the FBT one

[strange wagon]

if you just want FBT one kinect will do. but if you want to dance all crazy and stuff probably get the vive trackers 👀

[shy nest]

also, fbt seems meh to me atm. every money bags i see, every like 30 seconds to a minute their legs reset and then go back to whatever pose they were doing before

[vocal shard]

Why would you want to disable it? Unless your balls are itchy or something

[strange wagon]

kinect one has problems with very fast movements

[vital rune]

I wonder if adding text chat

would completely kill off microphone chatting

[dull oar]

What if you want to sit for a bit? I'd disable it then

[shy nest]

i hope they dont ever add text chat

[strange wagon]

just float shimakaze style

[rough pulsar]

Nah, no need to disable it when sitting.

[vocal shard]

text chat for friends plz

[rough pulsar]

just sit, and everyone will know and see

[dull oar]

texting would be amazing!!!!

[vocal shard]

You can sleep on your floor in FBT

what is x friend in y world doing

[dull oar]

It would help when finding people in a large world too

[strange wagon]

ppl would spam weird shit

[shy nest]

menu text chat between friends? sure but lobby chat? no thanks

[vital rune]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[vocal shard]

ye lobby chat is bad

[vital rune]

just only have text chat with friends

[snow ridge]

Argh someone lifted my avatar last night =/

[vital rune]

I'm already having trouble communicating

[dull oar]

only between friends is ok. Helps you find them in large worlds

[vital rune]

and Presentation Room is the only way I can truly communicate

even then I suck at writing

[strange wagon]

btw. can hackers only rip the avatar you're using or your entire list at once?

[rough pulsar]

I wanna say text chat is unlikely, mainly because the whole point of vrchat is to be social.

[dull oar]

bro a new mic isnt that expensive

[vocal shard]

texting is social tho

[rough pulsar]

not in this context.

[hasty wedge]

texting while in vr isnt xd

[strange wagon]

typing in vr is annoying

[vocal shard]

ppl are making ingame discord caling cards cuz it's a pain in the ass allready

[strange wagon]

👀

[dull oar]

I'd be down with VRChat phone calls too lol

[strange wagon]

so it's mainly for desktop

[vocal shard]

Silent desktoppers walking up to you and doing that desktopper thing where they quickly move their mouse back and forth

[hasty wedge]

wish u could send mail to friends tho

[strange wagon]

yea haha

then you headpat them and they turn around quickly

[hasty wedge]

like inv me to the erp room pls

[vocal shard]

have an ingame phone

[vital rune]

the only way for desktoppers w/out mics to truly communicate

is jsut nodding

[rough pulsar]

If you're not going to talk, that's your choice and you're gonna have to live with it.
The only exceptions being those who can't and not by choice.

[vocal shard]

Bretty annoying, as is the ones that then wake their mic and release a massive deluge of white noise

[dull oar]

Can you imagine if they made VR cell phones and everyone suddenly became as antisocial as they are in real life

[vital rune]

everyone is goddamn anti-social

[vocal shard]

you guys are projecting now >_>

[dull oar]

We're all nerds of course we anti-social

[rough pulsar]

you lot have never met me in vrchat. get me going and I won't fucking shut up.

[vocal shard]

nerds where? D:<

[rough pulsar]

Also am total nerd.

[vocal shard]

😠

U nerd

srsly tho, nobody will go on vr chat and just "text" all day if the feature is implemented somehow

alltho an ingame cross world phone

[vital rune]

even if its only limited to friends

[hasty wedge]

dw tho theres a vrchat like game and theres text chat

[vocal shard]

that shit would be cool af

[dull oar]

It takes a certain kind of person to go through the trouble of making their own avatars and dealing with all of VRChat's bugs. We all have to be nerds here

[hasty wedge]

i call it gmod

Kappa

[vital rune]

except I'm not into GMod all that much anymore

I mostly moved on to SFM

[vocal shard]

I'm a huge nerd, people just rarely enter the topics that I'm knowledgeable about

math nerds D:<

[dull oar]

What are you knowledgable about?

[shy nest]

memes

[vital rune]

being a miserable cuntr

[dull oar]

lol

[vital rune]

who mostly plays average/mediocre games

like MAFIA/BROIK III

[vocal shard]

what's your favorite meme?

and why is the skidadle skadoodle?

[dull oar]

Oh shit is this getting personal? Does he actually play Mafia/Broik III

[vocal shard]

Videogame stuff, internet stuff, technology in general

I'm pretty sure he meant himself

lol

[vital rune]

I scored like 13+ hours into MAFIA III

that's how miserable I am

[dull oar]

lol

[vital rune]

and still going

[vocal shard]

Session?

I had a 15 hour VRChat session in the weekend

[vital rune]

usually at 1-4 hours

[dull oar]

Did you eat in VR?

[vocal shard]

I forgot food was a thing

[dull oar]

lol

[vital rune]

I forgot good games were a thing

[dull oar]

I bought soylent so I could eat in VR

highly recommend

[vocal shard]

Lol nice

lmao

I don't feel hunger so I don't eat enough at times

[shy nest]

aint soylent a meme

[vocal shard]

did you stand for 15h?

"Soylent green" is a novel reference I believe

[dull oar]

It is! Apparently it has a lot of estrogen too so I'll eventually become a real anime girl

[vocal shard]

🤔

Are you single?

[uncut trail]

Wish there would be more friendly people in vr been channel hopping to find decent friendly people (The GReat Pug) and not single chattable people on rn 😦 so bored and depressed

[vocal shard]

ppl are mostly friendly tho

[dull oar]

aww bro, if you friend me, I'll hang with you next time I'm on

same username

[vocal shard]

Try a lower-pop world (10-20)

[dull oar]

Also calmer pretty worlds like Peccant Canyon

too many memes in popular worlds like the pug

[vocal shard]

avoid pug and open mic etc, its cancer

I tend to search for Astolfos, Felixes etc to pet for way too long 🤔

[dull oar]

Hey! It's good shit in the middle of the day before the normies log off

[vital rune]

Cafe Lebranc is almost dead

which kindof saddens me

[vocal shard]

If you get a few good friends, you will likely be introduced to their friend groups too

[vital rune]

when you stood behind Justine with your avatar being a slightly larger version of her

also wtf happened to Open Mic

[dull oar]

its the ARG

you gotta find MR Whiskers

[vocal shard]

I could do it, so it should be easy for anyone else (getting friends that is)

[vital rune]

those goddamn cockroach gifs

[uncut trail]

I was with good friends till they told me i beeen hanging with em too much and feeling uncomfortable of me being around em

[dull oar]

dude the fucking flys are gross

[vital rune]

everything is gross

thanks for playing with my goddamn disgusts

as if I'm already disgusted towards flies and cockroaches irl

but GIFs of them? and how large the cockroaches were

no goddamn thanks I aint visiting it again

[dull oar]

lol it's only temporary, and every week a new map is going to get vandalized

[vital rune]

still

goddamn disgusting

even my flashlight is useless

[dull oar]

alright, I'm signing off for tonight. Goodnight, guys!

[vocal shard]

gn8

Good night

[dull oar]

Also, Drakeos, I was serious. If you friend me and I see that you're on, I'll definitely hang with you and introduce you to some new people

[strange wagon]

are the vandalized worlds on purpose

or is that a result of their non existent security

[shy nest]

lmao what

you trollin or being serious

[strange wagon]

have you seen open mic night

i mean idk what was going on lol

is that april fools

[vocal shard]

I haven't, anyone got screenshots?

[vital rune]

its goddamn April 16th

[strange wagon]

it's super disgusting

[vital rune]

its apparently too late for it as an April Fools joke

and no fucking shit

[strange wagon]

i didn't pay attention because i never been to open mic night lol

someone just brought it up

[vital rune]

giant cockroaches that looked like they were straight out of Fallout and disgusting fly gifs

[vocal shard]

lmao

[strange wagon]

and flies in the corridors

[vital rune]

fucking help me

[vocal shard]

Worlds have to be approved, so it's likely intentional

gotta clean up

[strange wagon]

april fools content > security

👀

[safe prism]

@uncut trail iirc we're friends, feel free to hang out with me any time. all my friends are chill people~

[uncut trail]

❤ Okano ❤ i know lol and cheer's xD

[safe prism]

np

[vocal shard]

Yaw (*´∩ω∩`)

[alpine cove]

the vandalized worlds are weird, i got into a gaia night earlier that was trashed, but i was just in gaia night earlier today and it was fine

[umbral reef]

OwBoy this is going to become a really long day

Its 13:30 and i have to work untill 16:20 but i got no work left

Atleast i got a pc now

[vocal shard]

???

🇸 🇺 🇨 🇨

[strange wagon]

[uncut trail]

So where will MW will hit next Presentation Room or Void Club ?

[royal basin]

are login servers down again

[floral lance]

Is there anyone cleared the true ending of Mirror's Curse world?

[patent bridge]

Anyone know wich world i can get a seven deadly sins avitar

?

[vocal shard]

Idk

Just search

I saw one of ban in a small church-like world

But the Steam guides probably have some avatar lists

Oh..

[ocean needle]

Im gettingthat space glitch thing again loading into the game

is anyone else getting it ?

[vocal shard]

Nope, cant play today

same cant login

):

sigh maintenance?

I'm so tired

all good im in now

just relog it

Same here tired...

Somebody pity me

Im all out of pity

I thought it was weekend so I pulled a second all-nighter. Turns out it was monday morning and I had to go to school

xD

I didnt slept well last night

Trouble sleeping?

Thinking about how il end a break up
;-;

Oh, ouch, good luck

He cheating or something

Guess what..?

He playing vr chat too..

He might be in here then <.< >.>

not technically

You should try to validate your cheating theory though, I think

That feeling of sick of waiting but he doesnt really love you.

He has another steam acc... How about that...?

I also stalked him yesterday...

Guess what iv found out?

Don't know, what?

hmmm... How can i say this...

i joined at his server then he was talking to some gal then i walked passed him, thinking he wasent there, then he was hiding on the back of a girl while i talk non sense to those lolis just to ignore him..

Then he left the server didnt even bother to say hi

[golden mulch]

What’s the drama today bois

[vocal shard]

Sure he noticed you? That sucks though

Im a girl

he looked at me...

[uncut trail]

lol VRdrama so toxic i wouldn't bother invoving with RL it's a VERY bad mix

[vocal shard]

How'd ya say that?

I'd offer advice, but I lack the personal experience

[golden mulch]

Tf relation ships in vr

[vocal shard]

Good luck though

[golden mulch]

Next level

[vocal shard]

xD ikr

his the one who asked me =_=

[uncut trail]

Coming from SL where RL married woman plays SL and cheats with SL males

[vocal shard]

i was a stray cat who was tamed

I was so happy on being a stray cat =_=

[golden mulch]

Oml

[uncut trail]

Should let yourself go and wait for Karma to hit his butt so hard he relized he lost someone importance

[vocal shard]

i was better off rejecting people

But then he came along =_=

I have to go now, laters. If he isn't worth it, then it's best to find out sooner rather than later though. But it still sucks for you

Bruh im still young asf

[golden mulch]

I’ll just stick to making 3D wiafus for vrchat and not deal with real people cause that takes effort, peace

[vocal shard]

=_= i hate my immature mind

Oh, enjoy it while it lasts

Lol

You can be somewhat carefree

Except school days =_=

[inner cape]

Lmoa

[vocal shard]

Wait till college/uni

=_= yeah... Just 10 more years to go..

Or.. 6-7 years

You really are young. Anyways I really should go now

[inner cape]

The thought that i will never be young again is extremely depressing sometimes. Trust me, its much better than you are imagining it to be

[golden mulch]

Wait wtf what grade are you, 6-7 years till college holy shiet

[vocal shard]

Im in highschool =_=

[golden mulch]

High school is 4 years

[hasty wedge]

I'm in grade school

[inner cape]

6-7 including uni i suppose

[vocal shard]

My bad..

[golden mulch]

Oh fair enough

[vocal shard]

Junior highschool grade 7

=_= information...

[inner cape]

Ehm

Thats american system, right?

[hasty wedge]

Brit I think

[inner cape]

Noooo way

If its brit, then they would be 11 y/o

[vocal shard]

Wot?

[hasty wedge]

[vocal shard]

American xD

cough

[inner cape]

Told you

[hasty wedge]

wut

[vocal shard]

Not american

[inner cape]

Wot

[vocal shard]

Im from the asia side

[hasty wedge]

since when was HS grade 7

o

[vocal shard]

Since in the beginning?

[hasty wedge]

well u see I'm still learning

I'm in elementary afterall

[vocal shard]

Grade?

[umbral reef]

Best time is when your 16 imo

Can do most things

people dont care

[inner cape]

Better just tell us the age, we dont know your system lmoa

[umbral reef]

You can get a job to pay for thinsg if you want

[vocal shard]

T^T

[umbral reef]

and most places allow you to drink

else you just do it illegaly

[vocal shard]

Even tho your 13 you still couldnt do anything

T^T

[inner cape]

Barely legal for vrc

🤔

[vocal shard]

Dont think so

[umbral reef]

Well im 19 and i often dont get taken serious but thats only obvious and normal

[inner cape]

Game is 13+

[vocal shard]

going 14

[inner cape]

Good

[vocal shard]

still counts

[inner cape]

Yes

[vocal shard]

Horray

=_= still have school tomorrow...

[inner cape]

Oclac you behave like a 16 y/o most of the time, no wonder people dont take you seriously

[umbral reef]

Online i act like this

As i give no shit

[vocal shard]

xD ikr

I act like 16-18 years old

[umbral reef]

Irl my school grads me to goverment talks and ect to show off because i know how to act and talk then

[vocal shard]

Pfftt

[inner cape]

But im not saying its bad. Youre just enjoying your time, thats comepletely fine

[umbral reef]

Same for my internship, i proved i aint a plain retard and can act good when i have to so they allow me an insane amount of freedom

Even so much that they allow me to break rules pretty much

[vocal shard]

Oh...?

[umbral reef]

And il always act like that 16 year old making sarcastic comments in life because why not
Makes things fun as ya said

[inner cape]

i behave like a 16-18 y/o
You dont. Dont be so edgy please. No offense tho

[umbral reef]

Also acting like an age is not really an thing

[vocal shard]

xD

Pfft

[umbral reef]

You act matture or childish
I know grown ups that are more like a kid then some teenagers

Any manager

[vocal shard]

Ish childish

But gone sexual sometimes

[hasty wedge]

[vocal shard]

Pfftt kidding

[inner cape]

Oclac lemme give you a lesson real quick cause Ive seen you doing it so many times now. You use "a" with everything and you use "an" only if the word before the "an" starts with a vovel

No more "an thing"

[hasty wedge]

buts it's the internet

[inner cape]

I know, i dont really mind

[umbral reef]

I know the rule but prob forgot to use it because of an age

[inner cape]

No worries

[vocal shard]

Gotta do something now, bye

[inner cape]

Peace

[umbral reef]

Take care

[vocal shard]

Oh

Nice to meet you all

[inner cape]

Welcome, friend.

[vocal shard]

Hello

How are you

[umbral reef]

Eyo

[vocal shard]

Hello

[inner cape]

Pretty fucking shit, excuse me my French.

[vocal shard]

Its alright

Anyway nice to meet you

[inner cape]

What about yourself, how are you doing this day?

[vocal shard]

My girlfriend is at school

I am bored

I need to make avatars for her and i that are utter cancer

Not really they are normal

Just i made everything but the face a panosphere

Of a bag of milk

XD

[inner cape]

Atleast you have time for such entertaining things.

[vocal shard]

Not really

I have school

So i dont have much time

[inner cape]

Im sure its not as bad.

[vocal shard]

Its not great but not bad

[inner cape]

Take every good thing you can out of it and it will be better.

[vocal shard]

Yeah

I was depressed for 4 days but im getting better cause i hung around my girlfriend for 2 days

Cliché

XD

[inner cape]

I'm afraid I have to leave this place for now. It was nice having a short conversation with all of you. Bye

[vocal shard]

Wot?

=_=?

[inner cape]

Khm, I gotta go, khm khm

[umbral reef]

Chat died again

[vocal shard]

Il make it alive then?

[vocal shard]

Have voice changer and full body

Just got my first PayPal payment from a thirsty normie

Finally I can live life on ez mode as a girl

[hasty wedge]

[vocal shard]

apparentlly the knuckles called me queen when i entered uganda because i showed them the way

[velvet minnow]

thats pretty gay

[inner cape]

Indeed.

[velvet minnow]

also i cant find a single anime ass lookin model

legit its all anime girls

[vocal shard]

What

[velvet minnow]

oops

i meant

male anime ass

[vocal shard]

You is looking for non animu chicks

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

Go for Billy Herrington

[velvet minnow]

i dont want the tiddie

billy is god

[inner cape]

Nooo, Billy PepeHands

[vocal shard]

Billy Herrington, Spike, Dante from the Devil May Cry series

[velvet minnow]

you said pepe, hate symbooool

reeeee

[vocal shard]

Stormtroopers

[inner cape]

[vocal shard]

Slap a dick model onto a anime girl and get a real trap

[velvet minnow]

with jiggle physics

[vocal shard]

You mean

Dynamic Bone

[jaunty zinc]

How long has it taken you guys for your worlds to go public

I know it says 48 hours but its been a week now

[vocal shard]

Have you checked the "World Public Status" form to see why your world wasn't accepted?

[jaunty zinc]

Oo where? @vocal shard

[vocal shard]

2nd link in #public-world-request

Though, seeing as it has been a week since you sent it in, I don't think it'll be there anymore.

[jaunty zinc]

Aww shoot

Alright thanks!

[vocal shard]

No problem, make sure you check it the next time you request for a world to be public.

[jaunty zinc]

@vocal shard OHHH I NEVER KNEW YOU HAD TO MAKE A REQUEST

[velvet minnow]

lol

rip

[jaunty zinc]

DEATH

[vocal shard]

Oh, well, that's the first problem.

[velvet quarry]

Imagine the horror if every world ever uploaded went through the public verification D:

[vocal shard]

Some nsfw stuff would be seen.

[inner cape]

@sonic prism issa trap, I demand owning you

[sonic prism]

:3

[inner cape]

Be mine

[sonic prism]

i choose life :3

[inner cape]

I'm life

No me, no life

[sonic prism]

but no game = no life.

hence game is life.

[vocal shard]

You claiming traps now, Ghost?

[sonic prism]

save meh

[inner cape]

I'm just copying you advert. Although you ask them to join your harem. While I claim them

[sonic prism]

oh lord

[vocal shard]

[inner cape]

You know traps are my weakness

Cant resist

[vocal shard]

I only ask those that I've hang out with for a bit.

Sora's... Safe for now.

[sonic prism]

...

i see

[inner cape]

We'll get you sora

[sonic prism]

uwu

[vocal shard]

Also, wrong person to get ya rescued.

[sonic prism]

yeah noticed too late.

lol

[vocal shard]

[sonic prism]

:3

using you to say no xD

[vocal shard]

Dont use me against me-

[sonic prism]

to late ^w^

[inner cape]

How does one claim a trap without being lewd? Advert has an advantage on me because they be lewd

[sonic prism]

hmm i wonder x3

[vocal shard]

Force em.

I mean, what

[sonic prism]

ima sit here and wonder how to play guitar

[inner cape]

Advert can licc and kiss apart from the standard hugs and pats

But I have an advantage of having a voice

Muhahaha

[vocal shard]

[still rock]

🤔

[sonic prism]

lol

[vocal shard]

I talk tho

Rarely.

[inner cape]

Anyways

I'll dominate the heck out of this trappo later

[vocal shard]

[inner cape]

I need to go now

[sonic prism]

can i dial 911?

[inner cape]

You can only dial me

[vocal shard]

Give him oclac

You'll be safe then

[sonic prism]

actually for me it's 000

not 911

thx advert :3

[vocal shard]

need to keep you safe.

[sonic prism]

x3

[vocal shard]

For me.

[inner cape]

...

I'll go then

[sonic prism]

i choose to be innocent bystander

and okai Ghost have fun ^w^

[vocal shard]

I'm kiddin- ill have oclac.

Take care Ghost

[sonic prism]

im kinda getting tired

but i must stay awake!

[vocal shard]

How did Ghost spot you as a trap anyway?

[sonic prism]

my intro

[vocal shard]

... Is he spying on new people...

[sonic prism]

maybe. xD

[vocal shard]

Welp. He's a nice person so you don't need to be scared of 'em.

[sonic prism]

don't worry i'm not x3

vrchat is a scary place

xD

[reef gale]

Ya don’t say

[sonic prism]

mainly because i suck at talking to new people lol

[reef gale]

Oh I thought you meant traumatizing stuff

[sonic prism]

nah x3

[fringe hull]

Morning peeps ❤

[pastel pasture]

Hey quick question. anyone have any idea if a GTX 1060 is an upgrade or a downgrade from an RX 480?

[sonic prism]

morning

and i have no clue sorry slug

[south oyster]

morning 😃

[pastel pasture]

I'm thinking of getting one since I can't see anyone in VRC because of the AMD drivers, and if I end up doing that I'll lend the 480 to Cubed so he can fix the problem for everyone else, so I just wanna make sure before I go spending $300

[alpine cove]

The 480 is AMD's equivalent to the 1060, so probably not a particularly noticeable upgrade for $300

[pastel pasture]

Gotcha... I could probably get a decent amount back if I have Cubed send me back the 480 after he finishes work with it and i sell it, so perhaps that'd only put me $100 out?

[inner cape]

Get a 1070 instead and live a fuck all life

[alpine cove]

It might be worth it for better drivers and the slight performance boost though

[lunar willow]

Now with all those people stealing avatars, even private, private does anything, I really want the option, block users by default.

[alpine cove]

I think the 580 is actually the 1060 equivalent

so there's a small performance boost

[pastel pasture]

I pinged Cubed in the github thread, so I'll se what he has to say about it

[sonic prism]

i see you're back ghost

[pastel pasture]

On one hand I constantly get frustrated by how I can only see like 8% of people in a given room and I have so much fun with the people in this game that I even enjoy my time WITH the frustrating shaders bug - But on the other hand it's also sort of spending $300 for a free to play social sim lol so I'm a bit on the fence

[inner cape]

Yes, I am

[pastel pasture]

@mild acorn

[inner cape]

For a undefined amount of time, won't be too long

[sonic prism]

okai

[inner cape]

@sonic prism I see youre playing. Lucky you.

[strange cedar]

If anyone wants to play

[vocal shard]

Keep that in #general-media, @strange cedar

[sonic prism]

yeah i am. although just looking for a new avatar

[inner cape]

Just make one reeee

[sonic prism]

i'm not good enough to do that xD

[south oyster]

😄

[inner cape]

If you have spare money then you got sellouts like myself that would do it for you

[vocal shard]

rip

have you guys seen my latest project

Project:_ King of Degenerates

[sonic prism]

ehh to poor to use money

xD

[inner cape]

I feel ya

[vocal shard]

#avatars-2-general

[verbal mountain]

🍓

[inner cape]

GachiGasm

[sonic prism]

It was fun talking to you ghost and advert but ima head to bed x3

[vocal shard]

Have a good night.

[inner cape]

I'm late :<

[devout island]

@vocal shard Are we gonna play today

[vocal shard]

@devout island yeah ill be on later

still at work for 4+ more hours

I fixed the neck on my animation tho

lol

[low socket]

Quick / Random question, on the Vive if you pull the trigger to make a fist while doing a gesture the gesture overrides the fist, how do you go back to the fist without changing worlds..?

[vocal shard]

I heard Vive gestures are broken

[barren whale]

You have to move your finger on the gesture disks towards the center.

It should reset that way.

[low socket]

huh, alright, I'll have to test that! Thanks! @barren whale

[barren whale]

No problem! Glad I can help.

[vocal shard]

That fixes it ?

I have an override on the left trigger that I keep losing when I accidently use two overrides at once

[lilac swan]

If you hold down trigger on vive and the gesture you do gets "saved" to the trigger. The fist is just the default one. But yeah, sliding your thumb towards the center of the touchpad makes you do the "fist" gesture again.

So you can for instance point your finger when locomoting on vive, you just gotta "save" the finger gesture before first

[strange wagon]

Be careful there is a new form of hacker, they can spawn portals onto their avatars and take you to the hub by chasing you with the portal, as well as crash your server, if you see a portal with random numbers instead of it saying the hub block the person that created the portal immediately and leave that instance in case for safety precautions. Stay safe and have fun

👀

just saw this on another server

now imagine if they can be invisible from social and therefor unblockable/unmuteable

man vrchat is getting more and more fun

#idon'tfeelsaveonvrchat

[golden mulch]

or just like dont go in the portal

they cant place a portal inside of you

And thats not a hacker, thats just someone teleporting you to a world to crash ya

[strange wagon]

i didn't see one yet

🤷🏻

i was asuming they just chase you with a script or something

[golden mulch]

Eh idk

[strange wagon]

if they cant drop one on you that's ok

the most annoying ones are still the ones that are invisible to social. can't mute or block them.

[golden mulch]

Yeah idk, well VRChat has a system in play which wont allow portals to be dropped next to others

But i Mean hey

Its VRChat

Who can get the best system to crash others

[strange wagon]

and who can ruin the experience for everyone

the ones being untouchable by social won though

nothing you can do except leave

[reef gale]

Combine that with teleporting and there you go

[strange wagon]

yea that's what they did too

interacting with game objects when they are next to me

hearing them atleast

like i was in my house on werewolf but he was interacting with the board

can't even report them cause invisible

atleast i can protect my avatars from being stolen

[golden mulch]

Tru thats all I care for ex dee

[strange wagon]

when cats is faster than vrchat itself

[golden mulch]

Someone steals my avatars im out

[strange wagon]

i just hope they fix all the security issues asap

[reef gale]

Collisions that interact with people

Take a physical object

Send them flying

[strange wagon]

i mean hackers are taking the bucket in the pug and chase you with it too

which is that what you just said

[reef gale]

Yep

[strange wagon]

invisible in social, unblockable

can't do much other than leave

[reef gale]

The only public I visit is gaia

Everything else is friends only

[strange wagon]

forcing you into antisocial because ppl are destroying the game

[reef gale]

Yep

[strange wagon]

[reef gale]

How to make friends 101

[strange wagon]

not even save in savemode

[reef gale]

First step

You can’t

That’ll be $49.99

[strange wagon]

do they not care

i mean i heard rob say there is a update on the way with security stuff

but

they are adding some kind of camera in your hand?

🤦🏻

it already exists so

they could copy paste

i don't have a main group of friends in vrchat so i mostly world hop

so the hackers affect me in a big way

if you think about it

the only way to really defend yourself is to make the hackers crash

[vocal shard]

Haven't a few people got banned because of that kind of vigilantism?

[lilac swan]

The proper way to deal with them is to report and submit proof

[strange wagon]

?

how do you report someone that is invisible to social

[lilac swan]

!outputlog

[floral flax]

You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt

[lilac swan]

If they're doing something

It's in the log

[strange wagon]

👀

[lilac swan]

Everything is timestamped, so if someone invisible dropped a portal at 17:34 then you can just check the log who dropped it around that time.

[strange wagon]

it only has 15 minutes of log

[lilac swan]

The log is since the game client started until it is exited

[strange wagon]

rip. the hacker made me crash at a point

and i got on afterwards telling the ppl i'll go to sleep

that's why it's only 10

[lilac swan]

Only thing to keep in mind is a new log is generated and overwrites the old log when you start the game client

So if you crash or whatever and want to save the log, make a copy before starting VRchat again

[strange wagon]

ah

[agile wagon]

Hellllloooo people

[late stratus]

Anyone wanna make me a avatar because they are super nice?, I'm terrible with Unity/Blender.

Aye

[inner cape]

@late stratus money money money

shrug

[late stratus]

I mean, I have a penny and a empty bottle of Lynx Black

Will that make the cut?

[inner cape]

I'm afraid it won't

[late stratus]

Aye.

I'll probably try learn or somethin

Maybe a tutorial somewhere on basics, idk.

[inner cape]

Thats how many many many people started

Ex: myself

[umbral reef]

You knowww

[late stratus]

How long did it take you to learn it, at-least the basics?

Out of curiosity.

[umbral reef]

There are full tutorials from start to finish

That include everything

And really easy to use programs that do most work by now

[late stratus]

ah, fair enough.

I mean, there might be a avatar of the character I want somewhere in a avatar world

[umbral reef]

A month
But that was with shitty guides and no helping tools

[late stratus]

I just haven't found it yet.

[umbral reef]

Pretty sure if i started now i can learn the same thing with the tools first and then without within a week

[inner cape]

🤔

[late stratus]

I found the character I want on a Wiki page looking at the website it set up, but I still wan't to learn anyway.

It'll help me if I want to add my own flare to it.

[inner cape]

Bad advice for someone who never worked with it

[late stratus]

I'm very inexperienced with Blender/Unity

Modelling isn't my forte.

[umbral reef]

Cats has improved an insane amount though since it got released

Im legit amazed by it

I disliked it first but man
At times its so handy for things still

[inner cape]

https://youtu.be/7P0ljQ6hU0A here's our glorious leader. He'll get you started

[umbral reef]

Imo just the translating is enough reason to get it as im lazy 😂

Does the same job as the extra program that translate the stuff

But without risk of messing it up more then i ever would

As i never got that stuff right

All the stuff translation

[late stratus]

I have no idea what you guys are even on about.

My profile picture explains me

Anyone know any good channels to start learning?

[umbral reef]

Look up

Already got linked

[late stratus]

Oh, that one, kk

What does MMD stand for out of curiosity?

From what I saw looking in the comments

It says you would want a 20$ software plugin

[umbral reef]

optional stuff

[late stratus]

alrighty

[gritty ermine]

one of the two squiggly supports for my track pad on htc vive controller snapped. Anyone know a good place for replacement parts?

[bronze python]

its a good buy and i think its on sale atm

[gritty ermine]

ment to say touch pad*

[bronze python]

just need to learn how to use it and youre good to go

[umbral reef]

I dont know why fiji but your avatar looks like a panda to me today

[bronze python]

ehehe

its a fanart someone drew for me. artist is lee vizerax

and now you got me thinking the same way xD

[umbral reef]

fanart? Neat

[bronze python]

i cant unsee it

[umbral reef]

Like the top left part is the face of the panda 😂

[bronze python]

omg

ahaha

[umbral reef]

Man im going to hate myself tomorrow its close to midnight and im not sleeping yet again

[inner cape]

Youre not the only one hating you

[umbral reef]

Awww

[inner cape]

Jk

[umbral reef]

[inner cape]

Wdym

[floral portal]

is the vive pro even worth getting

[umbral reef]

Well if i get hate

[floral portal]

I might just get a regular vive

[umbral reef]

It means im famous and well known here again

[inner cape]

NO its NOT

[umbral reef]

Its not derps

Its not at all

And im a vive fan

[floral portal]

k

[umbral reef]

Its a tool marketed at companies and gaming shops

and should only be bought by those

[lilac swan]

If you got 💸 💰 to spend with no consequences then sure, get the vive pro

[umbral reef]

Also if you plan to use fast moving games

that use lots of head movements

Get ducktape if you buy it 👌

Makes it atleast stay on properly

[late stratus]

Apparently the Vive Pro is very loose, and has tinny earcups

[umbral reef]

@viral stratus For me it would be food and lots of stocks

[lilac swan]

Personally I'm sticking with the regular vive until wireless and/or eyetracking becomes standard in upcoming HMDs

[floral portal]

well I have a lot of money to spend but I don't just buy anything I want

so i'm only getting what I need to get

[mighty galleon]

if i had lots of money id have a house

and always put money into savings account

[umbral reef]

Saving is greato

Like you have plenty of money

In a saving account

But you get so used to never using it

you dont realize you got plent yof money spare

[mighty galleon]

also oclac

[late stratus]

Today is a good start to learn, since tommorow school is really simple

So I can stay up later without suffering too badly.

[mighty galleon]

if you have enough money in your savings accound yoy then start to earn interest

so if you have 500k in savings you earn like 3k interest a month

[umbral reef]

I already got 1.6K in investments

Not gonna throw in more