:^)
#vrchat-general-2
inner cape
thin bloom
Oh.. ;-;
drifting plaza
Good day to you as as well madam regardless! ^^
inner cape
Was about to say
thin bloom
My phone is slow today
inner cape
My phone is slow all the time
viscid seal
im bored at work, 2 and a half hours and i can head home XD
just wanna get back to world building 😛
inner cape
I stopped complaining when i bought vr with all the money i was saving up for a new phone
indigo fern
Good morning sir and/or madman madam
drifting plaza
@viscid seal I wish I had two hours to go.. Take me please
inner cape
Several people are typing monkaS
umbral reef
Im just refusing to spend money on a new phone while my current one is still alive
Like it has a broken screen and i need to always carry a powerbank with me
viscid seal
@drifting plaza 😛
inner cape
I got an Oculus
thin bloom
I like this man, has his priorities straight
drifting plaza
@umbral reef you got lucky, my last phone was an iPhone 4S that couldn't call or text without crashing and required third party shit to even function in those regsrds. But God damn the battery could last days lol
woooo oculussss
:D
inner cape
O:
drifting plaza
thin bloom
I have Oculus too. Damn it cost an arm and a leg but oof.
viscid seal
im lucky with my phones, they never break for me XD i just upgrade every 4-5 years, can still use my old phones from like 10 years ago XD
umbral reef
I got an S4 mini
inner cape
I dont care about the brand. The community shouldnt split so im not gonna wooo with you
: P
viscid seal
s7 edge for me
inner cape
Moto G 1st gen omegaLUL
viscid seal
😃
inner cape
-.-
indigo fern
Pixel 2 Master race reporting in
viscid seal
for some reason that fits your avatar N8
drifting plaza
o>
indigo fern
Finger sensor in the back so I have to fondle the behind to unlock
drifting plaza
The pixel two is the sponsored phone of the Imperium of mankind confirmed
gentle flower
Lmao
drifting plaza
inner cape
No sensor at all - no problems
drifting plaza
thin bloom
My phone likes to randomly Google voice anything it hears.
inner cape
Mine likes to do stuff by itself
umbral reef
drifting plaza
Jesus how high did you set the tolerance lol
thin bloom
.. like right now, its googling paper. Thanks phone >>
inner cape
Shiny silver side buttons are scrathced and black now
thin bloom
I totally didn't know what paper was
drifting plaza
I just wanna go home and play vrchat oof
thin bloom
^
umbral reef
same
drifting plaza
As we speak I suspect thousands are getting married
indigo fern
I just wanna put my headset on and never leave VR
drifting plaza
god I wish I could do that lelelel
inner cape
2h to go till home
inner cape
Feels bad man
drifting plaza
Lucky
umbral reef
@indigo fern Ask someone to kill you while in vr and ezpz 
thin bloom
I got chased by a ssj4 Goku asking me to marry him, though to be fair.. I was a kale avatar
drifting plaza
I've got till 1pm est till I go to school and then till 4-5 pm I actually go home ;-;
@thin bloom oof did you marry him?
indigo fern
@umbral reef sounds like an easy way to never get back in VR if you ask me
thin bloom
No, that's too quick for me lol
charred wyvern
h
inner cape
Okay now i ship it
inner cape
Lion and heart
umbral reef
works*
inner cape
I ship you 2
thin bloom
Ship who?
inner cape
LUL
thin bloom
...
drifting plaza
oof
drifting plaza
I'd rather get to know her first boi
charred wyvern
when i die in real life i want to live in VR
thin bloom
I'm probably older? Ha cradle snatch
drifting plaza
That's a bit rushed lel
drifting plaza
@thin bloom im 20 years old o.o
charred wyvern
science better hurry up before our generation died tbh
indigo fern
Upload my conscience to the server please upload failed
thin bloom
27..
charred wyvern
oof
inner cape
OOF
charred wyvern
so relatable though n8
inner cape
Age is just a number, its vrchat
drifting plaza
indigo fern
My aunt and uncle are about 13 years apart
charred wyvern
well i'm only 19
indigo fern
I'm 12, what is this
drifting plaza
So this is what shipping feels like
charred wyvern
my aunt and uncle are twins who are 6 months older than me
drifting plaza
drifting plaza
It's aight boi
charred wyvern
[13+ laws intensify]
drifting plaza
im just a lone crusader I guess </3
thin bloom
..aww
indigo fern
DID SOMEONE SAY CRUSADES, TAKE BACK THE HOLY LAND
drifting plaza
Noone to serve alongside in battle ;-;
thin bloom
..I should call myself 'InstantHeartBreaker'
drifting plaza
NOONE TO SERVE THE EMPORER OF MANKIND ALONGSIDE.
drifting plaza
ultrasob
charred wyvern
hey can you not spam please?
thin bloom
Damn be a spam sloot
inner cape
:c
indigo fern
9/10 better than the Billy Mays spam
thin bloom
^
inner cape
drifting plaza
Noone to give infinite head pats oof ;-;
inner cape
Me
drifting plaza
inner cape
Gimme gimme
drifting plaza
indigo fern
No one to give IRL headpats to O O F
drifting plaza
inner cape
True
thin bloom
I witnessed a therapy session in VRChat before.
drifting plaza
inner cape
That emote looks painfull
thin bloom
vocal shard
I'd give headpats irl but no one to headpat.
inner cape
Reletable
drifting plaza
@vocal shard here you go 
thin bloom
Morgan Freeman, the therapist and Godzilla being the client. It was super weird but dude had a great impersonation
vocal shard
I meant head pats irl--
drifting plaza
Oh rip
inner cape
Rip
drifting plaza
I tried ;-;
inner cape
F
indigo fern
VRChat IRL meet
Fox News: Large get together of mutes head patting
inner cape
XD
thin bloom
Lol
inner cape
Vrc > irl
vocal shard
There are irl meetups though
inner cape
Prove me wrong
indigo fern
Never been interested in IRL meets to be honest, seems like an anxiety attack waiting to happen
thin bloom
Agreed
vocal shard
inner cape
Most of them are probably really awkard
drifting plaza
Nahhhhhh
thin bloom
I'll be on the VRChat later if anyone wants to find me
vocal shard
Nah, iirc, it was mostly devs and old players.
drifting plaza
As long as someone is approachable everyone is fiiiine ;p
thin bloom
Hopefully with my new avatar ;-:
indigo fern
I'd like to meet Tupper and just give him a hug.
Not gonna say hi or even get his attention, just hug.
And never let go
inner cape
Aaaww
vocal shard
Stalking at its finest
inner cape
Steal his wallet
drifting plaza
umbral reef
@Advert-chan#0007 put it on ebay and sell them
umbral reef
Ow dam slow internet here
thin bloom
I wonder if Chunchasku will be online in VRChat at all this month. I want to meet him and have him pet my head
vocal shard
but what if they're across the world?
inner cape
Who is Chunchasku?
vocal shard
Also I'm off, work starting in a few minutes.
thin bloom
He's a YouTuber
inner cape
Rip, have a great day
indigo fern
Bye Mom, don't die at work
inner cape
You seem to like to hang out with youtubers
inner cape
Attention sloot?
umbral reef
I am an attention boy 
umbral reef
Im claimable as a husbando within vr btw 
All i need is your soul or something alike
thin bloom
Lol
thin bloom
🙌
umbral reef
Il deal with anything to obtain more waifu's/husbando's/souls so
indigo fern
Oclac best boy 2018
umbral reef
Well currently i got only 2d waifu's
hasty wedge
r u drunk boi
indigo fern
You sayin' my 2d waifu ain't alive?
hasty wedge
my waifus are real
inner cape
monkaS what have i done
hasty wedge
drifting plaza
I require a waifu willing to go into battle with me, preferrably, or one to help polish my marine power armor. 
gentle flower
Aww lol
slate shuttle
I wonder
inner cape
Yikers
slate shuttle
how are hackers able to modify other users' clients
inner cape
002 is best for you
drifting plaza
Hm?
inner cape
Darlingooo
drifting plaza
I mean, ideally my wife is a sister of battle from my universe o.o
If you've never seen one, I feel bad for you ;3
inner cape
Ye
vocal shard
have I heard waifus
inner cape
My OC waifu is better
drifting plaza
You now understand the waifu material that is a sister of battle
vocal shard
inner cape
But sadly no pic cause i dont draw
fickle umbra
Bladeege
umbral reef
W-wait... you guys are saying i aint the best waifu 👀
inner cape
You want to take my soul
drifting plaza
That depends..
umbral reef
you cna also give me food and thats just as good
drifting plaza
Would you fight along side me in battle? And assist my with my armor?
If so you just might be.
umbral reef
Well i dont have a weapon but i can be a smart ass?
umbral reef
Coolio
inner cape
U can take him
drifting plaza
You must have the appropriate attire as well, lest you succumb to injury in combat.. o.o
umbral reef
Also lion if i dont get enough food il cheat 
drifting plaza
Lelelel
umbral reef
Just so you know
drifting plaza
drifting plaza
Well, I do get good food.. I am a primarch after all.
umbral reef
Wowie
I just gotta take care of myself what ever it takes
If you dont eat you die so 
drifting plaza
inner cape
Too bad
umbral reef
shit man i still gotta write a test report
cant leave before i finished it 
Welp im never gonna get to play this game
umbral reef
Yea i dont mind doing the first but that second part is realllyy hard for me today
uncut trail
@dreamy adder Hey i'm interested in talking to you about your world
drifting plaza
Xd
dreamy adder
@uncut trail answered you 😛
vocal shard
hm
vocal shard
was up until 4 and sleeping until 11 am. I win
viscid seal
although i have a day off tomorrow so its all good XD
vocal shard
hehe ye enjoy every free day
viscid seal
i'll be in unity XD
spending that day on my world 😛
but hopefully can make some good progress on it
vocal shard
cool
umbral reef
i should still get into world making but i can just as good shitpost animations
whats just as fun
polar jasper
It's what comes after that you need to worry about 😛
viscid seal
before that i was doing avatars since december when i was introduced to vrchat
@polar jasper XD
yeah, depends on how crazy you get with what you want your world to do XD
simple worlds with some chairs and an environment is easy to setup and upload
umbral reef
Well i only have like 4 hours a week to work on unity stuff unless i drop other things 😂
Like sleep
viscid seal
😛
viscid seal
you could always team up with others
viscid seal
if you have a world idea you really want to make
slate shuttle
umbral reef
lmao looks like they forgot to link something
polar jasper
@slate shuttle https://www.vrchat.net/community
umbral reef
where does it show that link?
slate shuttle
umbral reef
Might want to email the vrchat peeps and show that
slate shuttle
what email 
polar jasper
I sent a message to the one responsible for the site
slate shuttle
ah ok
umbral reef
support@vrchat.com should work
polar jasper
slate shuttle
no point if someone else already did it
umbral reef
Eee kinda
viscid seal
Phaxe, i always end up checking if your avatar here syncs with the radio at work XD
works every time lol
polar jasper
inner cape
YouYouYou
umbral reef
I legit never see the 'always on beat' avatars on beat
inner cape
slate shuttle
ah okay thanks
polar jasper
There you go
But yea @slate shuttle if you do find a problem on the site, send it to support@vrchat.net as Oclac said.
thin bloom
..was there a Windows update last night, think it just bricked my laptop
slate shuttle
F
viscid seal
there was one the day before
polar jasper
VRChat is running on outdated software, so at least got something 😛
thin bloom
..oh well, I'll be sending next five minutes fixing it.
Does this shit for a living
umbral reef
See and vrchat is a company so that just confirms what i said
viscid seal
😛
thin bloom
Need to do that then this and.. presto. working laptop once again
umbral reef
Should drink coffee man
inner cape
It doesnt change the temperature
thin bloom
Come on laptop, I wanna play VR
umbral reef
pretty sure the update is in queue for me but as i delay most updated by a day or two
Il see
Knows how bad not updating it but still doesnt do it
thin bloom
Also. Phone discord won't share images. Sad face
indigo fern
rip phone discord
inner cape
Cause u cant share pics on this channel lmao
It still shows a plua
Plus*
But u cant
Check on pc
Plus dissapears
indigo fern
go to the pictures channel
inner cape
Try in dms
thin bloom
Lol
drifting plaza
Hm?
umbral reef
dm's
inner cape
Not mine tho
drifting plaza
What's up?
inner cape
Henlo
drifting plaza
I took myself from reading a script my director provided me my guy ;p
How can I help ya :D
umbral reef
I got a nice 45 minutes bus travel at 16:40
inner cape
6
thin bloom
I'm going to a Bruce Campbell meet and greet later
indigo fern
Ooo
thin bloom
At least that's what a friend of mine says I am. Drags me places
inner cape
One and only with irl pic in discord btw 
thin bloom
Yeah, hoping to get something signed but if not I will be okay
stable aurora
Hello 
polar jasper
Afternoon
drifting plaza
Good day sirs and madams! :D
indigo fern
@thin bloom ask to get your forehead signed, I wonder if people actually do that
near tide
question I uploaded some custom avatars to the vr chat but when I sign in with vr chat I get no custom avatars tab please help
near tide
where can I find that to detatch?
inner cape
Under the avatar descriptor there should be a separate component
Called Pipeline Manager
Just press detatch
near tide
ok thank you
inner cape
It might not work, so np
near tide
aww I was going to post a pic I don't see this pipeline manager
inner cape
Dm me
near tide
I did
sterile minnow
Heck
rocky blaze
private avatars still dont stop hackers
polar jasper
I think people have the wrong aspect on how the private option works
hasty wedge
it was made to not allow them to set it on a pedestal
polar jasper
^
rocky blaze
thats dumb
polar jasper
If an avatar was truly private no one would see it but you
indigo fern
It's so they don't redistribute it in a world, it helps a little
rocky blaze
he was trying to make a youtube video about it and make money from it
hasty wedge
oof
rocky blaze
about the new "exploit"
indigo fern
Easily bannable then
drifting plaza
cold talon
Allright major mistakes were made and I need your help
i want to create a particle emitter in world space so i can leave an "object" behind
the problem is that it always faces the same direction, how could i make it inheret the rotation of the parent object?
rocky blaze
when they make them selves as your character is it temp or is it on their account now cause am still having an anxiety attack right now
tacit plank
What is the "bottomless gaze" setting?
exotic fog
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 4491 users in VRChat currently
charred wyvern
@tacit plank lmao, it's buttonless gaze
tacit plank
But what does that mean?
charred wyvern
heck if i know
my pc is too crap for steamvr, and i've got an oculus dk2, so no hands
i think it's like activating a button by staring at it without pressing anything?
cold talon
has anyone tried rigid bodies on avatars?
gusty otter
If there is anyone who wants a custom VR chat model. PM me. i can make models at affordable prices.
lilac swan
Only briefly, but rigid bodies on avatars do work.
Obviously they're more of a pain to set up.
rotund mountain
So if that work could you maybe make an avatar with a giant hand, and have the VRC sit script on it so someone can sit in your hand ?
lilac swan
Rigid bodies is a built in unity component, while VRC_seats is a external script, so no, it wouldn't work.
No scripts are allowed on avatars, besides a very few whitelisted ones
https://vrchat.readme.io/docs/whitelisted-avatar-components
south oyster
😮
cold talon
but can i make the rigid body remain at its spawn position while my avatar moves?
if yes how would i go about doing it?
tender sapphire
@cold talon #avatar-rigging
cold talon
@tender sapphire i was saying it here because @lilac swan might answer it
tender sapphire
rip ur hopes and dreams
lilac swan
Don't think you can do that with rigid bodies
Only way to leave something behind like that, is to use a world-scale particle system and parent it to the avatar game object.
And have a long lifetime on the particle
lilac swan
Can't help with that, sorry :(
vocal shard
yeah, have a dummy bone connected to your hip with a rigid body on it, put the particle emitter there (so it lands on the ground) emit 1 mesh with a long lifetime
that's how people spawn jacuzzis and campfires
cold talon
thats kinda how i tried
cold talon
it spawns correctly if i look in a certain way
muted frost
can't you make it a sub emitter of a local particle and make it inherit location?
cold talon
actually heres a video showing my problem
muted frost
rotation*
muted frost
haven't tried it but seems like it could work
cold talon
that would duble the amount of particles but it might work
vocal shard
omg why the 50 particle systems?
you want your decoy to face a certain way, that's it?
muted frost
might wanna make your reg 1 mesh and 1 material so you only need 1 particle system to spawn him xd
vocal shard
isn't a cone emitter with Align to Direction on enough??!?
cold talon
@muted frost tried but texture atlassing was hell
vocal shard
to get it to face according to your orientation
cold talon
nop
cold talon
its set to align
vocal shard
what shape?
cold talon
cone
cold talon
yeap
vocal shard
kk, what are the particle system's parents in the hierarchy?
cold talon
empty game object>cube>cube>armature
south oyster
hiya 😄
umbral reef
Why does getting older suck
I now got the money to buy things like vr but now i got jack shit of time or energy
And when i do have the time and stuff i want to do thing with my irl friends instead (because its weekend)
vocal shard
welcome to the shitty side of life
im gettin a weird error..never seen it before anyone know how to fix?
i put the image in #vrchat-pictures
dreamy zealot
When you're young, you've got energy & time, but no money. At your prime you have energy & money but no time. When you're old, you have time & money but no energy.
umbral reef
I got money but no time or energy
dreamy zealot
You're at the crossroads already.
vocal shard
i need money
umbral reef
@dreamy zealot Its mainly because i got a bad illness not to long ago 😂
Im far from old enough to be close to that cross road
cold talon
has science gone too far? https://imgur.com/2rRnUQe
vocal shard
so I picked up a second hand oculus rift for $50, what are the possibilities
cold talon
@vocal shard hope it doesn't burst into flames
@muted frost ok tried that
aint working
opaque hawk
My internet was being really bad last night, so I made a tutorial on pmx editor
indigo fern
@cold talon so im guessing the other reg is a world particle or something?
vocal shard
wenas
umbral reef
Sad?
cold talon
@mighty marlin yep
soft skiff
@vocal shard for 50 bucks which model did you get? Dk1, Dk2?
lilac swan
Just go through the worlds list systematically and rebuild your paradise @jaunty apex
distant breach
^ That works, till your cache hits the 10GB limit 😦
lilac swan
Who was the guy who was cursed to roll up a boulder to the top of a hill, only for it to roll down again in all eternity?
cold talon
GAH these particles!
soft skiff
@lilac swan Sisyphus
south oyster
-noms dinner-
halcyon ingot
just deleted my 96gb cache #madlad
umbral reef
Dotdot dw its all gonna be owkay
Just world hop a billion times all to new worlds
and it will fill up again
charred wyvern
there's only one thing better than hentai
soft skiff
Having an active social life and friends?
jaunty apex
if you guys believe in me, then i can surely do it
charred wyvern
no, that's lame
jaunty apex
@soft skiff get out reeeeeee
soft skiff
😃
jaunty apex
don't give me that emote after saying it's stupid wanting to achieve 100 gigs
of vrchat cache
umbral reef
Oi i like stupid things like myself
lilac swan
Mine was resting comfortably at 15 gig
halcyon ingot
lucky
lilac swan
Until I gave it a mercy killing
jaunty apex
that's like 3 worlds
halcyon ingot
zarniwoop has weak cache game smh
lilac swan
I regularly clean my cache fam
halcyon ingot
absolute riot
jaunty apex
where are my pitchforks
lilac swan
Only dead fishes follow the stream
south oyster
i couldnt find the cache :x
dim thunder
Does anyone know where jakkuba got her avatar?
jaunty apex
whats a jakkuba
umbral reef
@lilac swan Good thing we are not fish but hoomans
lilac swan
Speak for yourself
jaunty apex
zarniwoop is a cat, right?
umbral reef
and 100% unable to count it seems
jaunty apex
i'm 200% me
south oyster
😃
halcyon ingot
😄
lilac swan
I just don't set limits for myself, so I overflow
halcyon ingot
that'll throw an exception
umbral reef
Im amazed i never though of that...
Thats like the perfect ego thing to say
inner cape
ure still here lmoa
umbral reef
Who ya mean
inner cape
you
umbral reef
owww
jaunty apex
when is oclac not here
umbral reef
well i cooked, ate and am now being to tired to play games
but never to lazy to talk so
Sadly thats true dot
umbral reef
well i apparently only got school at 10 am tomorrow so i can sleep a lot longer then normal
But i kinda fell asleep already on my chair so
cold talon
@umbral reef don't you die on me!
umbral reef
i wont im to cool to randomly drop ded
If im going to die its gonna be one of those overly dramatic ones
cold talon
loliskuad armed with m4a1 and ak47 knocks at your door irl because that one time you ate his beagle in vrchat
bad ending
charred wyvern
there's a user over here like "i made this avatar from scratch" with a super common model and a unity cube on its right wrist
[triggered]
cold talon
Gunna hunt dat booty
barren coral
I'm not sure what server is most appropriate to post this in, but someone told me that they saw someone who had rigged VR with a smartphone and joycons, does anyone know if this is at all possible?
cold talon
Phone Idk but joycon yeap
barren coral
Do you know how so? I know how to get the phone to work but I'm clueless on the joycons
cold talon
I think they use driver4vr
I have that program and I remember having a joycon tab for Input
Personally using it for leg tracking
quiet wave
probably a stupid question. But if I go to an Avatar world and become one of the models there. Why don't I see that model if I open up the menu and click on avatars
Shouldn't the 3d model preview be my current avatar?
barren coral
Unfortunately no, that only happens if you have imported the avatar yourself through unity
quiet wave
alright, so going to one of those avatar worlds is only useful If you want to change to an avatar like they have there. But Everytime you want to become that avatar again, you need to either go there or somehow download it somehwere?
barren coral
essentially yes, you will keep the avatar until you change it
vocal shard
i keep crashing on oculus rift after playing vrchat every 5 minutes i crash ? and yes all my parts in my pc are very good
umbral reef
Does it give any errors or put out an error log?
umbral reef
Let me try an command else ima ju bug zerni about it hihihi c:
!errorlog
!error
@lilac swan
Ey look what a neat command 👀 (halp)
vocal shard
huh lol
umbral reef
I got no idea myself and i know the server robot has some commands for things like the outputlog or what it was again
So ey was worth a shot
lilac swan
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
umbral reef
wait thats legit the command 
vale palm
is there a fix for vrchat trying to incraese my height on the Z axis instead of the Y?
i get that shit occasionally and its driving me nuts everytime
vocal shard
You may want to rotate the model, export in as .obj in software outside of Unity, growing irl.
tight robin
Was the ctrl + a hotkey to revert local av to a default model removed or just changed?
umbral reef
@tight robin I think it turned to CTRL + /
Also silver it could be for an update? Unsure really
celest hinge
Yea, I'm not seeing it at all
tight robin
@umbral reef thanks! its ctrl + \
lilac swan
@topaz lance @tight robin That site in particular is not supported by VRchat and please do not mention it on the discord. I have removed your messages mentioning it.
umbral reef
Ay the other dash
close enough for me xd
tight robin
sorry~! :x
umbral reef
nono i meant that i said the wrong dash but you still used the right one xd
tight robin
I replied to another person with an unsavory website name in my message.
topaz lance
Well damn I know the answer to that now lol
umbral reef
ow >.>
tight robin
ye <,<;;
lilac swan
Before you ask, one of the reasons is they distribute unallowed VRchat specific content and have zero desire to moderate.
topaz lance
Yikes...thanks for the info
cyan rapids
gheez im just a endless wreck right now
ive had a headache all day and i took ibueprofen and its done crap to help
i honestly think im getting migranes
umbral reef
@cyan rapids drink water and install a program like F.lux
stable folio
unallowed? by what measure?
umbral reef
as they break the ToS rules
stable folio
I mean, thats most of discord though
flux is mostly a meme tbh
I use it, but there isn't that much of an effect
umbral reef
because its a pasive effect?
stable folio
I wouldnt call it passive
I can see when it kicks on
Even then, if i turn it off
Its not that different
umbral reef
I mean that the eye stain doesnt instantly vanish
umbral reef
It works over a long time and just reduces the strain and makes things like sleeping after being online for long times easier
stable folio
I never had that issue either, so maybe I'm a bad example of this
tacit plank
What is "unallowed VRChat content"? Only thing I can think of is pirated content
umbral reef
Well as someone who often sits in front of an computer for all school hours and then gaming it helps me a lot
Noticed big diffrence for how tired my eye gets
@tacit plank nudity is an easy example
stable folio
Things that violate the ToS i guess
tacit plank
Nudity is allowed, just not in public worlds
umbral reef
o well highly detailed parts on a avatar even if itsnot staight up nude
stable folio
Yeah, i use the computer most of the day too
But, again, different strokes for different folks
Worst case you try it and it doesn't work
tacit plank
I'm on a computer for every hour that I'm awake, no exceptions
stable folio
Its more of a thing that VRC loves to have a weird deathgrip on their content
Like apparently certain words will get you banned and i believe it was one of the admins wanted to ban Kanna entirely
umbral reef
No its a company with a brand that needs money and investors
stable folio
plus the content creators love to pull the rug out from under people
umbral reef
Also that last is hella misinformed
stable folio
Stupid vive movement controls
umbral reef
The banned kana model broke the ToS and other things
tacit plank
It didn't?
umbral reef
all other kanna models are fine
Also the group that was part and got banned did fairly bad stuff
tacit plank
A model was used by some griefers though (black-clothed emoji sunglasses kanna) and they decided to ban everyone who had the model, seems excessive to me
stable folio
they still have weird restrictions and biases
Idk where to post images at in this server, give me a moment
Ah, whatever.
tacit plank
random-chat seems to have pictures now and then, there's also a pictures channel but I think that's for screenshots
stable folio
Yeah, i'll drop that point
I don't agree with the pepe ban, but hey, whatever
I dont even like pepe but c'mon, im still shocked it got turned into a 'hate symbol'
umbral reef
Again its a company
stable folio
I understand that bit, but it doesn't mean I gotta like some of their choices
but hey, it is what it is
tacit plank
I think it's a PR thing, some misinformed people think Pepe is bad
stable folio
I'm glad VR is getting some essentially free promotion
Yeah, basically that
wow teehee so random ecks dee
Smh Mother
umbral reef
@vocal shard You bought pringels for us?
stable folio
although, if i start seeing pringles ads in my vr headset
I will be irate
Very very much so
umbral reef
Adds within vr ?!
stable folio
you get a picture, if so, pls share
jaunty apex
I guess it was directly ripped off from nekopara game
stable folio
I wanna see it
Im just glad im not a British person and have to pay a frigging TV tax smh
tacit plank
I've met one of those gore-and-mic-spammers which I didn't enjoy, also seen a few kkk-avatars. Other than that, I have yet to see a single thing which I would call ban-worthy
stable folio
the worst thing i saw
Was my friends Nazi avatars
that did all the hitler speeches
But, honestly, im used to that
i do dislike the particle and noise spam ones
tacit plank
When people use mature avatars, everybody else seem to be having a good time.
Also I don't like the nekopara avatars much, they seem like weird adult versions of the characters
stable folio
there isnt a panic button for the vr users is there
tacit plank
I stopped going to the pug, and with that, I stopped meeting griefers
umbral reef
Well the effects of them are being less bad
The meme extreme hype is over so the shit posting is being refined and not just pure shit anymore and people start reporting them more and more
And there is
.....
jaunty apex
@stable folio of course there is
jaunty apex
@tacit plank right?
jaunty apex
they just stick to pug
umbral reef
Trust me you wont
umbral reef
Its a combination of buttons you need to press
jaunty apex
^
umbral reef
not just a signel button
jaunty apex
it's not just a simple finger point
stable folio
Oh thats good
because i could see that getting annoying real quick
But hey, with this games treatment of VR users im not surprised. I'm still annoyed by these controls on vive
tacit plank
There are a lot of annoying people, like kids, knuckles, people who play music, 'raiders', etc. But they're not breaking any major rules, and maybe they're not annoying intentionally, so whatever
umbral reef
maaann i want to play
soft skiff
it just shows you that given total anonymity the majority of people turn into sociopaths.
stable folio
thats been known for years, moike
soft skiff
I know
stable folio
I mean good lord thats like the first lesson you should of learned. Its why I love anonymity
I hate all this facebook integration
tacit plank
Nah, most of them actually think they're being funny
stable folio
and all this tracking of you
soft skiff
stable folio
I just want to get on the internet, and spread my vitriol
and then get off, refreshed
But no, now i need to zip it all up
umbral reef
well unless you pay for a product you are the product
So unless you pay for something your being tracked
stable folio
alright orwell
soft skiff
And I'm on the opposite side of that coin, I think that there should be no anonymity at all.
umbral reef
Data
stable folio
If youre paying, you're probably already being tracked
See, having no anonymity just crushes people even more
they have no good way to vent
tacit plank
From my experience with total anonymity, people are nice. They just have rather extreme opinions at times
stable folio
guys can't cry
jaunty apex
sometimes i wonder if a facebook employee is spying on me through a oculus sensor
soft skiff
You want to vent, get a hobby
stable folio
I feel like thats not a great solution
My hobbies never really let me vent
I just do them because I like it. I'm still angry
umbral reef
Go running then
soft skiff
but if someone goes out of their way to be a shitbag online then their employer, customers, friends, family... all should be aware.
umbral reef
Ezpz way to get physical tired and mentally clear
stable folio
why should they be aware?
jaunty apex
^
tacit plank
Being anonymous on the internet should be a human right
soft skiff
No, it should not.
stable folio
I mean seriously, why should their employer know that they have opinions that differ from the status quo?
umbral reef
@soft skiff there is a fine line between things though
soft skiff
There are opinions, and that's fine
tacit plank
Because if you're not anonymous, you're either self-censoring (holding back what you really mean) or getting censored by others
stable folio
Yeah
soft skiff
but there's actively promoting hate
stable folio
Exactly
soft skiff
and that should never be tolerated
stable folio
Hate is hate. Its going to happen
A vocal hate is better than a silent hate
At least you know where the dagger is coming from
umbral reef
If i with my discord account state X thing it should not effect anything unrelated to it
If i would do it wiht a public facebook account it can legally and is fine imo
tacit plank
Even if you're anonymous, various places have rules
And if you have nothing worthy to say, nobody is going to listen to you anyways
stable folio
basically that
soft skiff
you use your anonymity to call in a SWAT on a streamer for the lulz, you should be held liable and your reputation should suffer as a result.
stable folio
If you;'re anonymous
umbral reef
Also websites like facebook and twitter are an option not a must have
I gone pretty far in life with social connections and proper work instead of facebook or twitter
tacit plank
That's not a problem with anonymity, but misuse of services
stable folio
your facts are the only thing that matters
soft skiff
@stable folio Just because 'hate' has always existed and will continue to exist is no reason to just give up and not seek a solution to the problem.
stable folio
If youre known, now your name is tied to it. You're going to believe soemthing one person says over another
No, you should. You're never going to eradicate hate until you kill the last human being
Its in our nature, its who we are.
umbral reef
@soft skiff You but the goverment should not be able to see what i am typing if someone else in my pizza deliveryboy is a drugs dealer also
stable folio
Without evil, you dont have a reference for good
soft skiff
I keep trying but nobody will sell me plutonium in large enough quantity
willow nimbus
@umbral reef Oh my lord ,ITS A TRAP
umbral reef
Hu?
stable folio
at least you're on the correct path there
willow nimbus
@umbral reef filthy trap
umbral reef
How the fuck am i a trap?
tacit plank
I haven't encountered much "hate", just strong opinions
willow nimbus
@umbral reef look on your avatar its female but you are boy in really life
stable folio
Hate is just a strong opinion
willow nimbus
@umbral reef so its trap
fierce verge
where would I ask about a VR related issue when trying to play VRChat?
soft skiff
No, hate is hate
stable folio
no, hate is a strong opinion
tacit plank
Nobody hates something for no good reason
willow nimbus
@umbral reef your avatar represent who you are not what you like
stable folio
You have a personal preference to strongly dislike something
thats hate
an opinion
you and I dont hate the same things
I hate public restroms
You hate anonymity
tacit plank
And if you're on an anonymous forum, you can freely discuss it, and be told that you're an idiot or that you've got a point, depending on what your beliefs are
umbral reef
@fierce verge Could ask it here but if its to complicated you can always mail the vrchat peeps at support@vrchat.com
soft skiff
You're quantifying hate at a very low level
stable folio
does it make it any less valid?
stable folio
why make it overly complex?
umbral reef
I got depth to me
umbral reef
what is going on man
willow nimbus
@umbral reef haha joke with you man 😄 , im big role player in vrchat so like to troll little bit 😉
umbral reef
Im to sleep deprived for this
reef patrol
oof
soft skiff
I feel there should be no anonymity in your actions online. We've spent the last 25 years proving that anonymity brings out the worst in humanity.
tacit plank
To me, everybody is equal. We don't have the right to judge eachother, so I dislike the whole "witch hunting" thing
reef patrol
"Sleep" i gave that up once i purchased a computer
umbral reef
@soft skiff Yea but big brother aint that nice
stable folio
Alright, thats fine, I see your point, hell I agree with that it does bring out the worst in people
soft skiff
We don't need big brother
stable folio
the problem is, that hate is always there
umbral reef
I dont want my goverment to know everything about me
soft skiff
we don't need an overwatch, social media has proven that
stable folio
Its not going to just vanish
soft skiff
You behave horribly under the veil of anonymity and that veil gets pierced... you get vilified in the court of public opinion online.
That has proven -very- effective.
stable folio
But again, why
what does that do
It gets some guy's life ruined for saying the n word once
online
soft skiff
Again
umbral reef
Also your kinda doing trail by media then
soft skiff
Maybe fucking behave
umbral reef
What works great /s
stable folio
it turns into a witchhunt
tacit plank
That's how things worked long ago
soft skiff
and bad things won't happen to you
fierce verge
ok, so i just got my Vive today. Played Fallout VR and Hotdogs, horseshoes and hand grenades. they worked perfectly fine. So i went to go play VRChat, but it wouldnt display on my headset. it was just that loading screen you get every time you launch a game. Only, the sounds were playing fine when the game loaded, and on my monitor, in the vrchat window, it showed my headset was tracking properly, it just wasnt displaying on my headset for some reason. Ive tried reinstalling the game, rebooting the headset, restarting my computer, and a lot of other things i tried searching for online but its still not working. how do i fix this?
stable folio
Its not any different than the salem witch trials
soft skiff
This isn't a McCarthy era look for Communists
soft skiff
this is asking people to have some fucking respect for each other
umbral reef
Dude
soft skiff
The second someone realizes that they can be held liable for actions they suddenly start to behave.
tacit plank
Respect is earned, I have the right to disrespect others
stable folio
No i can't, if my life is going to get ruined over it
soft skiff
as long as you're not attacking someone in the process or causing harm
why is that so hard for you to understand?
umbral reef
You will just get closet racism
stable folio
You're literally saying that right now. That if i say something inappriopriate
my life will just get ruined
umbral reef
Its a big thing on workplaces already because of that no anonimity
and that leads more to hate then anything else
stable folio
Thats not relevant to this conversation
soft skiff
yes it is
stable folio
Why? are you wishing you could smear my name now since i disagree with you?
Try and ruin my career?
soft skiff
I'm asking a question.
stable folio
anonymity protects me, as it protects you
umbral reef
Education, religion, influences from the region and ect are wrong then