puts up index finger and shakes it
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
humble gale
Is anyone else having trouble with avatar uploading? As in, it says it uploaded fine, but its not there?
charred wyvern
use the check for sdk updates button, tsh
humble gale
I did, I'm using the latest
charred wyvern
rip
hollow tendon
#helpfulladvice
earnest fiber
@vocal shard i cant post there
umbral reef
@earnest fiber You gotta use the link within that channel
vocal shard
The google document.
earnest fiber
ahhh
umbral reef
What should i eat guys
Gimme something unhealthy to make or idk
vocal shard
Fried rice.
cunning totem
Fried Pizza ๐
charred wyvern
them: i have an issue
me: see if they fixed it
them: no
me: oh ok i can't help
umbral reef
Not sure if i got rice and im noy frying a pizza 
cunning totem
But fried pizza is the best tho :/
charred wyvern
that sounds fkin good
cunning totem
And you can have fried cake after that
vocal shard
fried pizza ? lmaooooo
charred wyvern
fried oreos though ๐ซ
umbral reef
Ima just see what i got instead of asking you guys 
vocal shard
I'd actually like to eat deep fried pineapple pizza.
cunning totem
You guys should try fried brownies
charred wyvern
fried oreos trump every other fried food except ice cream
umbral reef
Try bitterballen, frikandellen and kroketen ๐
vocal shard
There's fried ice cream.
umbral reef
That good stuff to eat fried
vocal shard
yes lol
umbral reef
As its the only way
vocal shard
Like, an actual one.
charred wyvern
doing homework when you learn ancient china did that real shit https://puu.sh/zuOjz/ded7d325fd.png
cunning totem
Oh they have crab icecream at the store btw ๐
cunning totem
And Paella icecream
charred wyvern
also are you in japan?
cunning totem
Spain
charred wyvern
oh
cunning totem
I live both in spain and Norway my young one ๐
vocal shard
I just want me some rum ice cream.
fathom river
I just want basic PR
cunning totem
I`m a sales man and earn fat stacks of cash each year so I can buy both a house in Spain and Norway ๐
vocal shard
We all don't get what we want. 
umbral reef
@cunning totem Should sell anti static everything items 
Most of them are fucking scams but they are legal scams
And companies pay mad cash for those items
umbral reef
cunning totem
Like kitchen machines
umbral reef
Ima just start getting mad cash for pressing in buttons on machines that do my work
And have work for the rest of my life
Well mad cash is a lie
But the pay aint bad
cunning totem
Anyways, Do no one know when VRChat are gonna patch the forever waiting in the outer space thing?
cinder walrus
Patch waiting room ResidentSleeper
vocal shard
Have they fixed anything yet?
kind wharf
hi all
real crown
Woo! My one-armed avatar works like a charm
well, except for the clapping emote lmao
but hey, super proud of it!
umbral reef
show a photo
umbral reef
๐ฎ fancy
real crown
he's from the game Gigantic, I'm gonna make a short vid showing him off and post it on their subreddit
if anyone's curious how I did it, I made a tiiiny dummy arm that's not connected to any part of his actual mesh, so it's invisible
rigid crescent
Vive still fucked?
remote pollen
Yarp
kind folio
Devs are looking into it @rigid crescent
rigid crescent
That's good
rigid crescent
Hopefully it works, it's definitely not worth being able to emote and movelol
fervent crypt
is there any way to make audio source louder?i can barely hear it
kind folio
In unity ? @fervent crypt
fervent crypt
yes
tidal aspen
make the unity camera is within range of the audio source
vocal shard
game still messed up? infinite loadingn all
cinder walrus
Yep
vocal shard
Anyone willing to 1 on 1 teach me how to do the hand/face gestures for avatars? Like i really try to watch vids but they all broke my brain XD DM pls and willing to pay for the tutor ๐ฎ
manic ginkgo
oh btw
it seems I can't upload to already created avatars, even if they were uploaded with the neW SDK
vale palm
no it only works with new pipeline id's
vale palm
works for me
manic ginkgo
I have to create a new pipeline on every upload
sick furnace
I just detach pipeline and new blueprintID is generated when publishing....yeah pretty much on every upload^^
sage flame
fierce lintel
hi
jaunty zinc
ohhhh
I was trying to work on a model and I was wondering why the gestures weren't working
Thanks for letting me know
Anybody having trouble getting gestures to work on newly uploaded models?
fervent crypt
something is messed up allways when i do a custom emote it plays audio,but now it doesn't
north axle
The hub is so quiet these days it's almost scary.
candid crown
Hey I have been trying to upload a new model on the new sdk since yesterday...the upload says it's done but when I get in game it is not there
Help pls @here
velvet quarry
Are you sure you want to try poking 14000 users about that? :v
Been seeing a lot of other people getting that issue, it might be related to the ongoing server issue atm, might want to try again once it's been solved.
cyan rapids
Can anyone get me a good tutorial on decimation for vrchat please? and maybe if possible one for using shape keys for vrchat?
charred scroll
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 8571 users in VRChat currently
charred scroll
and are the servers stable and responsive?
cyan rapids
because i have this model that has certian shapekeys i want to keep on but they never seem to stay on when i put the model in game before
but they show up properly in blender and unity, but i have to redo the model since i lost the fbx file
cyan rapids
no
there supposed to be his shows
shoes
but whenever i looked down, they showed the ones i didnt want
charred scroll
what is the big issue then? just delete the shoes you dont want and make the ones you want visible
cyan rapids
because when i go into edit mode the other ones suddenly show
cyan rapids
its actually not a bad mesh
quality wise
the poly count drives me a bit insane
nearly 40k polys
charred scroll
40 k polys are kinda ez to decimate doe
first, delete stuff you dont need for sure
cyan rapids
charred scroll
then, select pants and shoes and decimate those
decimate the hair a bit
done
you do know that you gotta seperate by materials
rough pulsar
Separate by mesh is sometimes better. Especially if there's a crapton of materials.
charred scroll
den i dunno
cyan rapids
its the jacket that made him stressful to decimate
but then again he was the third model i tried to get into crchat
vrchat
and the first 2 had no need for decimation
holy shit
his hair is like tons of small pieces
why
burnt locust
Does anyone have any experince with importing models ?
nocturne stream
@modern sand i pressed request mod on accident what do i need to do now
it was not my purpose i had a glitchy model and pressed it bc i coudnt see anything
rip
cyan rapids
dear god, he takes forever to seperate and shit
theres so much there....then again this model was a port from a gmod model
to an mmd model
jaunty apex
having the hair separated in many different materials is great
modern sand
@nocturne stream no worries, as long as it's not repeated
jaunty apex
idk what you're on about
cyan rapids
no its not materials, its many meshes
nocturne stream
ok thank god
main cobalt
can you still not upload with the latest update sdk?
vocal shard
@main cobalt avatar doesnt appear in the vrchat list and the manage uploaded content window?
vocal shard
upload with a detached pipeline
umbral reef
It never shows my uploaded stuff in the managa uploaded content untill i join the game so
main cobalt
detached pipeline?
vocal shard
the same place you did your avatar descriptor, its a button
nocturne stream
doe ssomebody knwo the key combination to change to that robot i am stuck in a model
main cobalt
still doesn't show up
vocal shard
- Local Avatar override (change to default emergency button) was changed to Ctrl-\
I think this is what you wanted?
@main cobalt doesnt show in manage uploaded content?
main cobalt
nope
gonna see if its in game though
the old one is in game still, that or gestures aren't working right for desktop
now for some reason i'm logged out in the sdk and can't log back in
Lovely
whelp
cyan rapids
the model has parts that aren't visible under his shirt unless i sit most likely
cinder walrus
!online
floral flaxBOT
There are 8730 users in VRChat currently
cyan rapids
so should i just remove them anyway?
vocal shard
If you're talking about "details," yes.
umbral reef
Unless you get an avatar where legit the buttons on the shit are special it wont really amaze me anymore
vocal shard
Anyone else? https://gyazo.com/dea6d1cc949caa131f7918aba029f675
VRCHAT has unity logo all the time
Probably done by mistake.
umbral reef
jup
cyan rapids
holy shit he has a whole bunch of meshes, http://prntscr.com/ijat5m theres still more if i scroll down
vocal shard
Combine all of 'em.
cyan rapids
indigo fern
Atlas the heck out of that boy
cyan rapids
Its fucking rediculous
vocal shard
C O M B I N E
cyan rapids
i should honestly just use the shitty low poly bad one
but i wont
because he looks like a chick in that model
and fuck that
model
how do i combine the meshes again xD
vocal shard
Select all of 'em, Ctrl + J.
cyan rapids
well i should at least decimate the fucker first right?
because he has over 37k polys
vocal shard
Yeppu.
cyan rapids
and the shoes i want him to have are operated by a shape key, and last time i uploaded him, they didn't stay on
the way they were supposed to
dear god there's so much shit to the fucker
cinder walrus
still waiting for the infinite loading screen fix
cyan rapids
his hair took like 5 minutes for me to select all the vertices its so damn sepereated
cinder walrus
many people stuck with this issue after new update,nothing helps
hearty trail
The loading screen issue is still going on?
cinder walrus
yep
hearty trail
Yeah, I've been waiting since yesterday afternoon. Like almost 24hrs
cinder walrus
same,after new update
umbral reef
i uploaded an avatar with the new SKD today, avatar was fine, it showed up all fine and i could just log in sooo
might want to attept playing tho
as its fine for plenty
but as always the minor vocal group looks really big
hearty trail
Yes but it's affecting a good amount of people
cinder walrus
!online
hearty trail
There was a good amount reporting the same issue yesterday
floral flaxBOT
There are 8715 users in VRChat currently
rare jungle
Could anybody tell me why my controller may not be acknowledged by VRChat?
cinder walrus
uploaded new avatar,wanna test it,but this issue is ruinned everything
umbral reef
@rare jungle Vive or ocu?
rare jungle
I got one working arm. Ocu
umbral reef
If a vive just restart the controler
can also attempt the same thing for ocu but no idea how that works
rare jungle
Iโll try it
umbral reef
Best way to fix things that need a connection is turning it off and on again
And else see if you need to update anything
grim cedar
cinder walrus
WutFace
umbral reef
thats something...
tulip kernel
I would, really like to get into vrchat right now. These stupid login stuff is really ticking me off..
cinder walrus
Rip vids
umbral reef
Perfect time to add animations 
tulip kernel
Bro like.. I can't have this happen on a weekend
vocal shard
same
cinder walrus
Yup,i wanna upload some avatar showcases but i simply can't
vocal shard
I though maybe making a new account (which didn't upload models/worlds yet) would help
but it doesnt
i literalymade a preformance for a prom event in 20 minutes. Cannot get on vrchat, cannot test, cannot attend.
rare jungle
@umbral reef I tried restarting the controllers but it did nothing. My right avatar hand is being controlled with my left controller. And I canโt move or change avatars. Iโll try to change avatars in 2d mode to see if itโs an avatar thing.
vocal shard
@vocal shard use the power of disney to get you to your prom, always worked in the movies
quartz pewter
is anyone having a kinda lag loading up and logging in to vrchat
vocal shard
most of us cant log in
cinder walrus
Fix patch BlessRNG
quartz pewter
oof well i loaded in but now social isnt load nor are worlds
vocal shard
quartz pewter
am stuck in a hub world by myself
vocal shard
@vocal shard I tried that, all it does is gimme the infinite loading and say "You're welcome!"
cinder walrus
also guys,is there any good tutorials for making realistic blood effects?
quartz pewter
oof forgot to add my nickname hehe
vocal shard
@vocal shard there's always this https://support.streamlabs.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004232954-How-to-solve-IPv6-issues
undo if it doesnt fix anything
if this works, i love you
tell us if it does
love me
cinder walrus
BlessRNG
vocal shard
oh you have a cute profile pic, i'll love you anyway
lol
thanks, youre anime so i love you anway
cinder walrus
works?
vocal shard
cinder walrus
Is he dead or what?
main cobalt
What
vocal shard
That we can't login
REEEEEEE i wanna play badly ;-;
i dont understand why it was fine at 4 in the morning my time but then now its not working all of a sudden like
faint quail
bought an oculus today
this shit is great
now i finally have incentive to wear contacts
vocal shard
lol
why do some people's hubs look black rather than green
never seen it black
update? xD
no, it was there before
wait the hub is black now?
steady burrow
god these controls fuckin suck
vocal shard
Thanks vrchat for the blue screen
cinder walrus
for infitine loading
boreal portal
I like the new emote settings however the movement on vive is pretty hard to swallow
being able to move is a plus (that we should have had from the beggining but hey glass half full)
with emotes
legacy controls would be nice though
balmy timber
yeah main response from what I see is people dislike the new controls
vocal shard
most people post complaints here rather than say what's good, since theres no need to complain for those people
oh well just that i see here, cant last long on vrchat
boreal portal
I honestly have no issues with the new setup I just find the newer movement controls a bit difficult to get used to
tulip kernel
vrchat = loading sim
boreal portal
Being able to hold an animation with the trigger is lovely
barren condor
@covert chasm Hey so im at a vr development class at my school so I was wondering if itโs cool if I can make Multiple accounts just for that purpose so I can show people vr experiences such as certain maps and stuff in vr chat
cinder walrus
Vrchat - ambient sound simulator
modern minnow
you're not gonna be able to show them anything but space
wet burrow
I'm sure no one would notice 20 or so new accounts being born
thin sandal
Anyone else having dynamic bones not work properly if they upload a new avatar with them?
tidal crest
Make sure the roots are correct?
thin sandal
It works fine in unity
tidal crest
Maybe refresh rate then? I honestly dont know. Could it be maybe too many bones?
Could they have capped it?
thin sandal
Not sure. I'd have to check the patch notes or the sdk itself
thin sandal
๐ค
tidal crest
I would say ask a dev, but at the same time, I donโt know if it worth bothering them from more important stuff, ya know?
leaden kiln
@barren condor I don't know of any limits on accounts
indigo fern
Not sure if Tupper is lurking, but here's your daily reminder that we love you
vocal shard
hi tupper
covert chasm
im always lurking
tidal crest
๐
Tupper question: this users dynamic bones arenโt working in game but they work in unity, any idea whatโs going on?
thin sandal
๐
vocal shard
tupper lurks. Vrchat broke. What is going on with my life right now
patent dove
same
uncut trail
server loggin down again ?
patent dove
yup, all i see is space
uncut trail
was trying to login to my account my friend made me to try new model he made me
hasty wedge
boreal portal
time to work on avatars till it's done.
tulip kernel
@covert chasm you always lurking? Please bring out the spanking stick for the Devs so I can get back on vrchat and drink with my fellow Loli friends. ;-;
vocal shard
Bug report is Tupper's lurking ground.
tulip kernel
Logins..
vocal shard
lol
@covert chasm i emailed support about my unban and they told me i would be unbanned today but im still banned
not really sure what to do.
coarse blaze
!cache
what's the command that makes the bot
tell me where to go for the cache
!clearcache
halp
vocal shard
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
warped urchin
odd my sdk doesn't have the shader for the mirror
coarse blaze
I'm assuming I'm free to delete the whole cache?
warped urchin
yes
if you want
just delete the httpcache folder
as that has most of the space that it takes up
warped urchin
go into a world
you're most likely not going to get someone here who is going to tell you how to get it
it's in avatar worlds
wise panther
its in avatar lounge
youre talking about the rainbow one; not actual tidepod chan right?
warped urchin
I'd assume he means tidepod
wise panther
i know theres a loli that has a tidepod box in one hand and an actual tidepod in the other one
and theres tide-pod chan
nova flower
it kinda looks like rainbow lolli\
but less colorful and can pull outy a tidepod box]
delicate basalt
Just done downloaded the VRchat, andddd Endless Galaxy Loading
vocal shard
Try putting this in your launch options in steam
vrchat://launch?ref=vrchat.com&id=wrld_cc834611-89aa-4bf9-a3d0-30cc894637ba
delicate basalt
so... it'll work? cuz i kinda put a lot of codes based on my findings in internet like 3 hours ago
night lark
vrchat sdk is mean lol
vocal shard
Well, there's a chance it will work. That line spawns you to a different world that's not the hub.
It works for some.
night lark
its calling my avatar of me short
vocal shard
Well, all can do for now is wait for the fix. Pill announced that they're looking at it.
delicate basalt
(Eagerly waiting o.o)
cinder walrus
Fix patch waiting room
vocal shard
@cinder walrus 1) First bring your computer to its desktop
2) Next right click on your desktop and select "Display settings"
3) Lower the resolution down from the recommended (I changed to 1600 x 900)
3.5) Clear the game cache and restart your computer
4) Launch the game and hopefully I didn't waste your time
5) After launching the game you can go back and revert your monitor resolution
delicate basalt
So the resolution is the problem?
vocal shard
cache
torn cape
aaAA is there a quick hack to get old locomotion back
vocal shard
@cinder walrus If you cannot boot into VRChat or VRChat gets stuck on loading there are a few things you can try:
You can re-run the installer to re-install VRChat
In your '%Userprofile%/AppData/LocalLow/VRChat/vrchat' folder there is a file called parse.settings. Try to rename this to parse.settings.bak and relaunch VRChat.
If you still cannot get into VRChat try to rename the entire '%Userprofile%/AppData/LocalLow/VRChat' folder to 'VRChat_bak' and reinstall VRChat. Then try to load VRChat.
modern minnow
unfortunately none of these work with the current issue
vocal shard
same XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
topaz notch
delicate basalt
boreal portal
That moment when you complete an avatar too soon and the server issues arn't resolved yet
vocal shard
lol ooof
serene slate
topaz notch
Just means you have more time to create more issues that you can iron out \o/
white saffron
Everytime Im at work and look at discord vrchat is having a problem
but when i get home everythings fine for me
feelsgood
always when im not on anyway
boreal portal
Yeah this means I have time to make even more complex animations to the point where people will think i'm trying too hard
boreal portal
You can never try hard enough
tbh
(I hate my friends who are able to log in right now)
bleak tusk
" ใใฎใขใใซใฎVRchatใงใฎไฝฟ็จใฏใๆงใใใ ใใ " ๐ญ this why avatar rooms should never be allowed when in use mmd model.
keen chasm
Nothing beats ascending in animations
I would do it but I want kick ass particles and no stock unity ones
white saffron
Animations arnt generally too hard but
boreal portal
Time consuming
white saffron
they do take time
boreal portal
I'm horrible at making particles
keen chasm
Unless your model is joke and just make it get down
white saffron
yep
vocal shard
@cinder walrus MY DUDE I FOUND THE FIX
boreal portal
Does the fix involve me giving you my social security number?
white saffron
out of my life
keen chasm
That's what I get for trying to rebuild a certain vocamodel
boreal portal
I could get better at animations but I always run into roadblocks with the longer ones or I lose patience
vocal shard
@vocal shard GO TO STEAM, THEN VRCHAT- PROPERTIES- SET LAUNCH OPTION AND PASTE IN THIS: vrchat://launch?id=wrld_59bc6a1b-e123-4cbf-9044-630a357b0384
IT WORKS 100%
gloomy sequoia
It lags out and doesn't come back, just freezes. ; -;
When my game lags/disconnects, I don't respawn in the hub again anymore.
broken cobalt
i have problem itry join vr chat i keep stuck at sign in like waiting join world and stuck there
vocal shard
@vocal shard nope doesnt work
boreal portal
the vast recesses of space still consume my login screen and leave my soul withered and devoid of hope.
boreal portal
Samerino
vocal shard
And pasting that in the launching thing
didnt help u
nope
vrchat://launch?id=wrld_69ab9cdf-5436-46bd-98b5-714837a53b4f
Paste in this
in the launch options
again
steady kraken
boreal portal
still stuck in space.
chilly widget
i'm trying out the keyboard gestures
is there anyway to rest the gestures to a non-active state?
boreal portal
Vive controllers are now placed in the category: "McDonald's ice cream machine" and therefore are broke.
vocal shard
lol rip vive people
serene onyx
vivid grove
halp. my rift's screen keeps shutting off and when it turns back on it plops me right back at the oculus home
this happens every 5 seconds
white saffron
try shutting down all vr apps
somber radish
Anyone else having issues uploading avatars? It's simply not appearing in game after it says it uploaded the avatar
slender barn
I have to remove the blueprint id thingy to my avatar every time to upload.
somber radish
Hm, 'kay
languid laurel
oh no... is there a tracker shortage from vive? I was ready to buy mine today
lethal arrow
heyaaa, don't know where to write that but, i unfortunatly activated the "protection mode" which block everybody ^^'
and i don't see where to undo it ๐ฎ
vocal shard
- Mute Users by Default - All users except for your friends will be mic-muted until you friend them
- Block Avatars by Default - All users except for your friends will have their avatars blocked until you friend them```going to look for that รฒ.o and how did i activated that ?
hasty wedge
`` - Desktop: both Shift keys AND ESC key
- Rift: both triggers OR both grips, AND both menu buttons (B/Y)
- Vive: both triggers OR both grips, AND both menu buttons
- Windows Mixed Reality and other VR controllers: both triggers OR both grips, AND both menu buttons
- XBox Controller: both triggers AND back AND menu buttons``
vocal shard
i dont know how i feel about you using this instead of code blocks
modern sand
@woven laurel #vrchat-pictures
woven laurel
boreal portal
"Hello darkness my old friend"
gloomy sequoia
Won't again after disconnecting it just stays on the world's logging back in deal... The screen. Never even asks me to log back in or reconnects.
I have to turn the game off to get back in now.
noble pewter
i cant log in
gloomy sequoia
Yeah... A lot of people are having major problems.
noble pewter
oh my goodness
vocal shard
not as bad as when thousands of players were trapped in a world and the only choices were to either die (exit) or live until someone fixes the servers
delicate basalt
I see what you did there
young ice
why cant i upload a model
charred wyvern
h
vocal shard
@young ice does it show in `manage uploaded content?
young ice
nope
vocal shard
@young ice click the detach pipeline button located in the same place you did the avatar descriptor then upload again
young ice
u sure
warped dew
Is it still goin on?
young ice
nope still not working
coral narwhal
ok so I just tried to upload my first avatar and I can't select it. and it IS showing up under manage uploaded content
warped dew
God dammit bitcoin.
Why ye gotta raise them graphics card prices, i wanted one to have a PC capable of handling vr
Everything else is up to par except the graphics card for either the vive or oculus
warped dew
They want dosh. And a lot of it.
charred wyvern
are they playing killing floor?
warped dew
Lel.
I'm glad nvidia is taking steps to curb bitcoin miners by making it you can only purchase two graphics cards at most on their store
hasty wedge
gud thing i ask my neighbors to purchase them for me
warped dew
steps to curb, not full on stop
also, I'm sure your neighbours are going to be willing to buy something for you that costs like $1000+
charred wyvern
lol
shy nest
just kidding but yeah seems silly
charred wyvern
neighbors are a pretty good payment plan
opaque atlas
The prices are actually a lot cheaper in th US
warped dew
That's aussie currency tho
opaque atlas
Like, I can get a 1080 Founders Edition for cheaper than I got my 1070 a year ago
warped dew
Loud roblox oof
tidal crest
Oof.OGG
vocal shard
opaque atlas
No. It's only $699
steady nymph
Wonderful weather today
warped dew
@opaque atlas are you serious?
opaque atlas
Yeah
vocal shard
warped dew
FURIOUS PELO TABLE SLAMMING
vocal shard
warped dew
When it comes to electronics, why must australia get trash ;-;
opaque atlas
vocal shard
warped dew
When everything costs significantly more in australia.
rigid crescent
That's what happens when you live on a hot rock floating millions of miles from civilization
rigid crescent
Vive still suck?
vocal shard
broken cobalt
can somone help me how fix problem i have
vocal shard
whats the problem you have
charred wyvern
when people assume internet-goers are omnipotent
how does one even make a world public?
vocal shard
broken cobalt
i launch vr chat and i login in and then stuck in space cant play or go world
i have screenshot lf you want
vocal shard
VRChat Status (@VRChat_Status)
Some users are reporting infinite looping in app & 401 errors. We are investigating this.
broken cobalt
is gonna update vr chat for fixing that
vocal shard
either hope you get in to where you want or wait until the staff say it's fixed
idle elm
:pug: The Great Pug has been updated! - https://github.com/owlboy/greatpug-public/
charred wyvern
:pug:
placid quest
yay! i went to go find out and was sad i couldnt
leaden kiln
are they gonna fix the being stuck in your avatar bug too?
charred wyvern
?
leaden kiln
5 more minutes reloading the world just to switch to a taller avatar so I can reach the buttons
charred wyvern
oh rip
shy nest
I get a bug where I change avatars but for me im still the previous avatar but im the newly chosen one to everyone else
charred wyvern
dude i feel so bad for the team rn tbh
all the bs they have to sort through from the gore attacks
broken cobalt
i will waiting for that
delicate perch
is there an easy way to update the SDK or do you have to start everything all over
charred wyvern
just delete the vrcsdk folder from your assets directory and import the new version
gets ninjad
shy nest
charred wyvern
๐
modern sand
close unity first
delicate perch
last time i tried that it bugged out badly
charred wyvern
^not really
leaden kiln
@shy nest Yeah, that one. That was a problem before the update, but they decided to rewrite the controls instead.
shy nest
my guess is that its a lag thing
charred wyvern
you should keep unity open, actually
shy nest
regularly 200 ping because no au servers 
leaden kiln
I'm in an empty world, there's no excuse for it.
charred wyvern
makes importing the new package easier
modern sand
close unity before deleting the vrcsdk folder
shy nest
it varies depending on the person i find, i deleted it while open and imported the new one and it works just fine but other people that have done it havent had my luck.
modern sand
Cool, but we still ask users to do it, because sometimes, issues
delicate perch
so just replacing the folder should be all i need to do?
charred wyvern
my upl content
shy nest
its been like that for like forever
modern sand
@charred wyvern Are you in 1920x1080 ?
charred wyvern
lemme check
shy nest
i get the same and I am
charred wyvern
i'm in 1680x1050
1440x900*
sorry, the first number was the display unity isn't on
aspect ratios are similar though
delicate perch
soooo, how am i supposed to copy and paste the sdk folder if its a unity package? o.O?
charred wyvern
you open the .unitypackage
while you have your unity project open
and it'll make unity import it
by open, i mean you run it like it's a program
upper fox
when's playmaker coming out?
delicate perch
so just have unity closed when you delete the SDK then?
plain oracle
Will there be a possible update to the SDK soon, or will that come later on, as the client gets updated
charred wyvern
they fixed it 
charred wyvern
if you do it the safest way, yes
close unity, delete old sdk folder, open unity and go back into your project, then open the unitypackage, max
grave holly
will there be an update to increase model face count to 20k+?
charred wyvern
sdk feature request: let the sdk autodetect cameras named vrccam in the scene to compliment the new forced image update feature
i'm already tired of moving the camera
hasty wedge
wait its forced each time now?
vocal shard
aww my game still doesnt work
charred wyvern
yeah, and i'm pretty happy about it tbh
hasty wedge
time to writedown coordinates
modern sand
@vocal shard Send you log to support@vrchat.com please
plain oracle
When you start to upload a character, delete the bottom-most VRChat camera object.
charred wyvern
i just have a gameobject where i want mine so i can move the camera into it and zero its coords
safe prism
you could make a game object exactly how you want the camera, copy it's transform and paste it onto vrccam
:x
wet burrow
Aww, that update made me hope you had added back the old controls
grave holly
does anyone know the url thing for battledisks so when i log into the game i go there right away? skip laggy hub
safe prism
yee
charred wyvern
ny, but it'd be easier to totally not have to do that
wet burrow
I was ready to complement on how fast that was
vocal shard
how do i send my logs
plain oracle
Man, this SDK made sure I couldn't upload my characters huh
charred wyvern
especially considering it's a simple check
broken cobalt
i update vr chat and i still glitch outer space
plain oracle
I'll have to... export the character model thats in my current project, put it in a new project, and hope it keeps all the dynamic bones
modern sand
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
tidal crest
vorked, i don't think it will. it didn't save mine when i moved an avatar to anotherproject.
plain oracle
Shit.
safe prism
you could add that to the sdk yourself ngl, like the wonderful viseme auto-detect fix~ annoying to fix it every sdk update but ._.
tidal crest
ikr
plain oracle
I'll look into it.
thorn ocean
Can someone ping me?
plain oracle
Else, I'm done with these avatars for now until its fixed
safe prism
like i've been removing the ONSP audio automatic add aaa
tidal crest
@thorn ocean
broken cobalt
what do that vrchat outptlog
thorn ocean
This notification won't go awau
modern sand
Find it, and send it to support@vrchat.com if you can't log in @broken cobalt
broken cobalt
i login in keeps stuck me outer space
vocal shard
Yeah same
vocal shard
logs have been sent
charred wyvern
use the power of channel mute
thorn ocean
Didn't work
charred wyvern
use the power of turning discord off and back on again
charred wyvern
use the power of dealing with it
thorn ocean
.......
charred wyvern
which graphics setting is lower? VRlow, or desktoplow?
warm ice
i can't load into vrchat
weak frost
how do you jump with oculus now?
wet burrow
I just assumed that desktop low wouldn't start the game in VR
broken cobalt
i send screenshot to support vr chat
wind saffron
I'm in spaaaAAACE
thin sandal
Is it safe to go back into public worlds?
wind saffron
Running in the 90's
thin sandal
๐ค
wet burrow
I never tried it
charred wyvern
quality levels have nothing to do with VR
wet burrow
Why is it called that then?
wind saffron
alright guys we'll be here for a few lets sit back, relax and play some quality space music
gloomy sequoia
Issue that doesn't relog me and send me back to the hub is still going.
charred wyvern
probably because vr and desktop need different amts of resources
ruby needle
if its only desktop then i guess it should be set to the lowest to get better vr performance?
uncut trail
whats new at great pug ?
gloomy sequoia
Still not getting back into game without shutting it down and opening it again.
wet burrow
They made the staircase even taller
gloomy sequoia
XD
warm ice
it's not letting me load into vrchat plz help
gloomy sequoia
The patch was supposed to help.
wet burrow
server is down, try waiting for a bit then trying again
gloomy sequoia
IT did nothing to help me.
wet burrow
I think the server is down, I mean, that is what I read others saying
I haven't tried laoding in myself
gloomy sequoia
It's not down.
warm ice
how can i post pics
gloomy sequoia
I've been on and a lot of people have been on for this whole time.
opaque atlas
The devs know, and they are working on it. Please be patient.
wet burrow
Why isn't there a server status website? Who was the idiot who decided Twitter was the best tool for telling about server issues.
vocal shard
yup just got a reply they are checking whats going on now
meager karma
is vive controls fixed yet?
wet burrow
No
vocal shard
thats not as important right now
wet burrow
Really?
gloomy sequoia
I'm doing my best to be patient... ; - ;
wet burrow
I feel like it is
gloomy sequoia
It /really/ isn't when people can't even get in the game on a large scale.
plain oracle
The controls still work.
gloomy sequoia
=_=
wet burrow
It is a game called VRchat, so why do the controls favor desktop?
vocal shard
controls that are just kinda annoyed < people that cant play the game at all
meager karma
well i mean it was a problem before login issues were
gloomy sequoia
Exactly... -rolls eyes-
plain oracle
Game development works on a scale of
1: How many people are affected by this bug?
2: How capable are we at pushing out a fix in short time for this specific issue?
3: What timescale do we have to work on and how many people do we have available in that department?
4: How gamebreaking is the bug?
Vive controller issues are at the bottom-rung of every one of those issues.
warm ice
me
vocal shard
thank you vork
wet burrow
That scale makes no sense as a scale
gloomy sequoia
If a ton of people can't even play their game, then it's a huge issue if they were able to before.
It's just good business to fix that problem and keep their "clients" able to access the product.
boreal portal
Honestly I don't care if they reverse the vive controllers and add a button to cause you to move upside down as long as they prioritize the space issue
warm ice
i was able to play before
plain oracle
Its a scale for every one of those listed.
Four different scales that you need to juggle for development.
meager karma
It should have just been an option in the first place anyway
wet burrow
You forgot the part of development where you auctually test the program before you send out the update and see that it is garbage
gloomy sequoia
Top priority is honestly making sure that people can actually use your game in the first place.
plain oracle
I'm a major community member of Halo and work alongside 343 Industries, and also a tabletop game developer. I gotta deal with this sort of thing on a regular basis.
Willie, you're an idiot.
wet burrow
That is right
plain oracle
Limited tests are all they have available to them, they can see what is affected on their end with their technology.
They have no idea what could happen on the large-scale side of things.
Different GPUs, different CPUs, different RAM and RAM cycle timing
Different OS
Different cache issues
wet burrow
But the vive is a common piece of hardware
gloomy sequoia
If you want it working perfectly and are not willing to put up with some bugs and hardships here and there, then don't touch Early Access games.
plain oracle
So many things they have no possible way, ever, of testing.
wet burrow
I see it hard to fuck up movement for every vive user unless you hadn't tested it yourself
gloomy sequoia
We're basically similar to beta testers...
gloomy sequoia
We're finding the bugs and problems.
Reporting them.
They do their jobs and work on it.
We don't complain that there are bugs because it's Early Access.
It's normal.
wet burrow
That isn't how that works
Early access is for complaining about bugs
that is the point
gloomy sequoia
With Early Access, there are always going to be bugs.
wet burrow
You send your bug compalint and a log to the email address
wind saffron
Well yes but still we won't actually think it's a bad thing that there are bugs.
plain oracle
"Why isn't this Early Access game, developed by a small team of like 13 people, being distributed to hundreds of thousands of people all on different hardware, software, and third-party products working PERFECTLY"
wet burrow
then they hopefully make it better later
wind saffron
Cause of course since it is early access, we can't deny the fact there's gonna be bugs
you understand what I mean
gloomy sequoia
XD
plain oracle
I like being able to deal with complaints outside of my community because I dont have to play all nice
delicate basalt
I just want to meet at least one person in vrchat on my first day, and then im off to sleep ๐ฆ
wet burrow
Yeah, too bad you also don't seem to be able to read
gloomy sequoia
It's really sad that Willie with his Vive thinks his vive controls are more important than people being able to even log in.
meager karma
vorked #shill
wind saffron
his opinion
plain oracle
b-but MUH problems
wind saffron
people don't matter if you don't know them
plain oracle
MUH PROBLEMS
wind saffron
unless they're something to you
wet burrow
I don't even have my vive right now.
gloomy sequoia
=_=
boreal portal
Then don't give vive users that bad rep of being hyper complainers.
gloomy sequoia
Exactly.
boreal portal
we get enough shit already
gloomy sequoia
Feels bad, dude.
wet burrow
I'm not being a hyper complainer, I am keeping a conversation going while we wait for the game to come back up
vocal shard
Hey look my dudes we should all just chill and be nice alright. Let's not worry ourselves these people are working their asses off to help us. Thank you to the team for working throughout the time to provide us a game like this. It's helped me to connect with good people from far away and so I put my trust in them because well they made the game and we should all just be mellow about it. Thank you again! @modern sand to you and the rest of the team!
gloomy sequoia
The game is up, I think.
rigid crescent
Why are there only 13 people lol
wet burrow
Because people cost money
gloomy sequoia
Rude.
wet burrow
It is hard to get money from a free game
vocal shard
Yes @vocal shard has a really good point
wet burrow
I don't see how that was rude...
rigid crescent
Hell there's people mistakenly banned, ar least have moderstors
gloomy sequoia
I love how people shit on the development team for absolutely nothing.
ruby needle
^
gloomy sequoia
Stuff they can't control.
vocal shard
Preach it Crimson
gloomy sequoia
They have limited staff, limited funding, and are working their asses off to bring you a game without charging you for it.
wet burrow
What are you talking about Crimson, they are the only people who have any amount of control over theses issues, so who else would there be to complain to?
boreal portal
Give a mouse a cookie.
vocal shard
people like you for not supporting them
wet burrow
Plus if no one reports bugs, it will take longer for things to get fixed.
south viper
somehow it seems like people are implying that there won't be bugs after a final release
vocal shard
if we give them support we can give them something to look forward to
gloomy sequoia
So you seriously need to check your self-entitled baggage at the login and not give them shit for your "vive controls" when other people have it worse and they already know about the problem.
wet burrow
Not without a bit of work put into it.
boreal portal
They even said they were investigating a way to implement old controls for vive users.
gloomy sequoia
If you shit on them too much, they could realistically just drop the whole thing.
ruby needle
@rigid crescent just rolling back would make those who like the new movements complain... there is 2 sides and not only those who hate it
rigid crescent
One seems a bit easier to fix. Roll the update back, keep panic buttons.
ruby needle
...
south viper
exactly, in my circle it seems like about half the vive users like the change
gloomy sequoia
Because they're getting too much crap and it's not making money, so why keep going.
wet burrow
There was more in the update than just those two things
rigid crescent
Yes but those that like it are the minority. The very extreme minority
wet burrow
But there are still people
ruby needle
the thing is
wet burrow
They are trying for a solution to make everyone happy
south viper
it can't be a super-extreme minority because clearly all their testing people didn't hate it
ruby needle
negative feedback is spread so much more then positive one
vocal shard
gloomy sequoia
XD
wet burrow
What testing people
south viper
the people who get to test the release before we do
vocal shard
gloomy sequoia
I mean, Willie is a prime example of the loud angry people.
wet burrow
That is just fiction
ruby needle
the biggest issue is proapbly still that it is a major change to a critical system that takes time getting used to
south viper
but feel free to laugh and say that there's no way they have those lol
boreal portal
I for one appreciate the ability to move emotes with my vive now HUZZAH
boreal portal
Crack open a cold one for the devs my bois
gloomy sequoia
Exactly, we need to be rooting for them and be supportive, they're giving us a really cool and fun, free, game.
rigid crescent
Lol are there actually playtesters, that comes as a big surprise
vocal shard
south viper
supposedly there are, but the opinion I was hearing yesterday is that maybe the playtesters don't use very advanced avatars
boreal portal
I can dab and make ๐ ฑ emojis shoot out this game is far superior to anything i've played before
vocal shard
THEY CAN DO IT
wet burrow
Positive feedback is rare in this world for a reason, because it doesn't auctually do anything
vocal shard
We believe in them
gloomy sequoia
Well, people should really not be bypassing the polygons and stuff.
Willie, you're really an idiot.
rigid crescent
Well i can barely move around and enjoy the game lol
wet burrow
Well, some people can't even log in right now.
ruby needle
takes time getting used to mic
rigid crescent
I'd be a lot more upset if i actually paid for vr
gloomy sequoia
Yeah.
south viper
that's the other thing I'd like to know - if the new vive controls were the controls vive always had, would anyone even be complaining?
wet burrow
I would pay for the game in the state it was in three days ago
charred wyvern
bypassing poly limit is bad
gloomy sequoia
I'd pay for it even if it has bugs, and still wouldn't be buthurt over the game.
vocal shard
id pay for VRChat
gloomy sequoia
having bugs.
vocal shard
If they had to go down that road
south viper
in general people complain about any change, even improvements
charred wyvern
asking for poly limit increase is also bad
vocal shard
willie stop being so mean
gloomy sequoia
Very true.
ruby needle
@south viper i dont think so
vocal shard
60k poly is good enough
boreal portal
I'm a vive user and i'm fine with the new changes you can quote me on that, the movement is slightly hard to get used to but nothing wrong with it.
charred wyvern
there are already too many polygons on most avatars
gloomy sequoia
Willie is just a negative Nancy.
wet burrow
Really though, if you had to pay for the game, there would be way fewer users, so I might have to think about it.
charred wyvern
20k limit is definately high enough
ruby needle
and yeah you are right Trejkaz its a very critical component thats why it hits so hard
wet burrow
If there were no one to talk to that would be sad.
charred wyvern
you can fit anything into 20k
south viper
train everyone to use one set of controls and then yank it from under them for max damage
south oyster
๐
charred wyvern
if you can't you suck at mesh topology and should practice more
gloomy sequoia
-sighs-
wet burrow
I'm not a model guy, so I have no idea how much 20k pollys is
rigid crescent
Not my high quality pretty a avatar lol
vocal shard
tupper has said himself, polys have almost to none effect basing on 60k polys
charred wyvern
what?
south viper
to be fair you can fit things into 20k if you're making it, but if you're working with an existing model it depends on how big a prick the original modeler was
rigid crescent
Didn't he also say a toggle for movement wasn't likely
south viper
maybe they made the model in a way which makes it extremely hard to reduce the detail
boreal portal
to be fair you need a very high iq to understand rick and morty.
charred wyvern
people should probably not import them then, and it's good that it's blocking them
gloomy sequoia
Yeah, that's not when you have a tone of people and stuff.
vocal shard
the only probable reason you have performance issues with your avatar is anything other than poly count
gloomy sequoia
*ton
south viper
I mean, they generally are importing them, but after using poor options like decimation
charred wyvern
lilim, no
south viper
so the net result is we get shittier models to look at
vocal shard
drawcalls my man
charred wyvern
poly count is directly proportional to render time
gloomy sequoia
XD
vocal shard
wet burrow
So you are saying the problem is with the poeple importing the models, and not really with the polly limit
quick atlas
wiggle if you are arguing from first principles know that VRChat is a strange game
charred wyvern
what?
quick atlas
its cpu bound
gloomy sequoia
Willie, hush.
vocal shard
charred wyvern
"first principles"?
wet burrow
No thank you
gloomy sequoia
As far as I can tell.
mellow mango
Anything over 63000ish polygons is an automatic extra draw call, so that won't work.
gloomy sequoia
Because everyone has been on that I know in game.
charred wyvern
thanks lilim, but i know what a draw call is
vocal shard
Look at all of these bacon hairs
wet burrow
Just out of curiosity, is offline friends back yet?
charred wyvern
unity splits meshes into parts if they have too many vertices
thus increasing draw calls
rigid crescent
I get more compliments on my 60k than my original 20k so i like my 60k more
charred wyvern
but it kills toasters
mellow mango
I mean it kills toasters if it's inefficient
wet burrow
Are you saying that hte higher quality model is higher quality? Big suprise there
gloomy sequoia
So? You're technically breaking the rules by importing it and hurting other people's computers.
charred wyvern
for every compliment you receive, a toaster is killed slowly and painfully
vocal shard
yeah thats why i said 60k
gloomy sequoia
And people like me with bad internet.
modern sand
@vocal shard Please stop posting these emojis
vocal shard
ok