No fun allowed.
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
hasty wedge
i have a question gallium
if the char is 9 years old do u still do a check if it has it or not 
upper cedar
^
vital rune
question
are low poly characters mostly used as jokes
e.g MGS1 Solid Snake, which only had whopping 600 polys
upper cedar
Nudity is chill on private worlds though
upper cedar
Ever have so much caffeine you feel 10 lbs lighter after post-coffee toilet rush?
untold ether
@rough pulsar figured as much hence that was one of the reasons I abandoned that project đ
upper cedar
-inconspicuous whistling-
upper cedar
Really?! Pretty sure it was at one point
sturdy cove
@upper cedar it isn't
hasty wedge
if its private how would others know đ¤
sturdy cove
At least for 4 months or so
@hasty wedge you can be seen accidentally with this avatar
Or someone could report you
rough pulsar
@hasty wedge If it's an avatar on a pedestal in a world that's requested to be made public, it will get checked.
hasty wedge
upper cedar
Whoâd stick their vr head into @hasty wedge skirt and report them after tho?
hasty wedge
xeverian would 
upper cedar
Whomâstâve*
sturdy cove
@hasty wedge I wonder if I would stick it in the first place lol
rough pulsar
Someone who might find genitalia on a underaged-looking model rather unpleasant?
rough pulsar
Just stick on the side of caution and make sure you delete any body bits under the panties.
And honestly, the models that have it there are... way too detailed so you get a lot more leeway in polycount by removing it.
hasty wedge
vocal shard
TBH, you really have to go out of your way to see genitalia in a lot of models. Unless the model is full out nude, everything is probably covered up.
sturdy cove
I asked VRPill about nsfw in private worlds like 4 months ago and he said it isnt allowed. So no options here I suppose
upper cedar
VrPill needs to experience vr smash
hasty wedge
LOOL
upper cedar
Then he will understand
sturdy cove
Well the real smash is at least as good but still its not allowed to go commando outside you know
upper cedar
Hence why we should re-instate the NSFW in private worlds
vocal shard
Can I rant for a brief moment? Private worlds are just that: private. We should have all the freedom we want in a private world. It's just us, and the people we invited into it. We should have free reign as to what we do in those specific worlds. In public worlds, I understand censoring nude models. But private worlds? No thanks.
vocal shard
I'm sorry, but as much as I love VRChat and how much it has helped me through life, I question some of the decisions made by staff., especially by Pill.
I'm probably getting banned for saying that. :l
upper cedar
I question why there still isnât WMR compatibility
sturdy cove
But it sounds like "I can do druđ ą s in private places if they are private". Something like that
sturdy cove
@upper cedar it isn't? I've heard people are using it
upper cedar
Nah, movement with WMR sucks
It doesnât use the sticks
Rather you move with gesture pad
I complain nearly daily about it, surprised you just found out lol
vocal shard
Let's be honest here. Very few people care at all about nudity in VRChat. I've seen people with full-on nude models and nobody gave a shit. If you are going to make the argument that kids are going to see it, then it's a fault on them. They should know that this game was going to be run by adults and teenagers, so they should expect that kind of content from the game.
sturdy cove
VRChat is 13+. What if you invite these underaged pips tobyour world and seduce them and their moms will suit the hell out of VRChat you know
sturdy cove
Yeah I know that. But there are things that you can't approve even if they comminly practiced
vocal shard
That's why we have a button to call the mods. If things are getting too serious, everybody can call in a staff member.
upper cedar
WEWEWEW
sturdy cove
@vocal shard won't help to not get sued though
upper cedar
Pan comes into the world as a cop car
vocal shard
That is a valid point, I'll give you that. But this is the same game that had a controversy with a "racist" red echidna and various news outlets calling out the devs to stop it.
And VRChat came out just fine.
upper cedar
Hey Rem, not sure if this is obvious, but it seems itâs only punishable if reported. Hence if you use NSFW in private worlds, that shouldnât happen
sturdy cove
Not a good idea to discuss it here tbh lol
vocal shard
I know that. It's just when Xeverian told us that Pill wasn't okay with nudity in private worlds, that's what kinda ticked me off.
That's true.
I kinda went a little overboard with everything. Sorry @sturdy cove
upper cedar
To the dms 
sturdy cove
Well in reality it happens all day I suppose
untold ether
Most of the social apps prohibit 18+ content like genatalia and such even in private msgsing to protect people from harassment or sending nudes, and to protect them kids and keep loud parents of their doorsteps
upper cedar
Dude what parent would let their kids play vrchat
Itâs neglect on their end for allowing it
There should be no reason to get sued
untold ether
Does your parent know what games you are playing and how they work?
sturdy cove
I mean I've seen a guy who wanted a full body tracking and asked if it will be possible to track the movements while lying close to the floor for the reason he didn't specify lol
upper cedar
Hence why GTA is doing ight
No, but any parent should see the kids monitor and see what theyâre playing isnât for kids
vocal shard
This conversation is more heated than my school's senior debates.
untold ether
GTA is labaled as 18+ and thus it can hold the parents responsible
I don't mean for it to be heated, just a friendly discussion
upper cedar
How tf did a game about talking to strangers get 13
sturdy cove
Being just small company yoy don't really want to walk on thin ice you know
Its getting hot here hehe @vocal shard
upper cedar
Like, are you surprised thereâs NSFW and things bad for kiddies
ebon ginkgo
"GTA is labaled as 18+" and so should vrchat be really
untold ether
I'm not surprised at all that there's NSFW and bad things for kids. Hell, genetalia, drugs and guns are better than the knuckles meme :^) but its an interesting discussion who is held responsible
vocal shard
Vrchat should be 16+ or 18+ imo
upper cedar
The parents, obviously
sturdy cove
Yeah 16+ at least probably
ember kiln
18+ since you could make some fucked up shit.
vocal shard
Now that I think about it, VRChat has only gotten popular just recently. I think as the more the game grows, the more the rules will kind of relax a little bit. The devs probably want as much good press about the game to draw in large crowds.
upper cedar
If youâre letting your 13 year old play any game and he sees something bad, itâs neglect on the parent
Plain and simple
The game doesnât need press. It has youtubers
untold ether
But what if your 13 year old downloads a free game or gets it from a friend and hides it from you? How will you keep tabs on that?
sturdy cove
@vocal shard yeah exactly. They just broaden the audience for now
ember kiln
tbh when has good-press gotten any game more rep?
upper cedar
@untold ether still parents fault. Itâs not the game developers fault that they made a game tailored to adults and a kid managed to acquire it without the parents knowing
If itâs not the devs fault, itâs the parents fault.
vocal shard
Dragon Ball FighterZ could've been ignored by the public as "just another Dragon Ball game," but press and word of mouth allowed the game to soar.
Or for a better example, Undertale.
Undertale was covered heavily by the gaming media which lead to it getting so popular.
ember kiln
When I meant press I meant those 'journo' sites.
upper cedar
Vrchat doesnât benefit from high playercount Rem
Like, at all
If anything it keeps the devs up 24/7 to keep servers functional
ember kiln
So far the only notable press from jurno is like how the knuckle meme was racist.
ember kiln
You haven't heard?
vocal shard
Ugandan Knuckles' are a dying race.
upper cedar
Oh god are normies snowflaking over it?
ember kiln
Its been a normalfag joke from the start, like pepe but with knuckles instead.
upper cedar
I knew that. Goddamn grannies at walmart asking eachother âdo you know the way? Click! Click! Haaaaâ
^ saw with my own eyes
grand zealot
I'm never going to get a Kirei model. 
coral wedge
Is the upload bug fixed yet?
vocal shard
Yes
elfin garnet
Do we have an estimate of when Playmaker will be supported for VRChat?
coral wedge
XD got em
elfin garnet
Oh yeah, like the new sdk that was comming out "very soon" like announced last week or so
verbal ibex
i find it easier to just not pay attention to it
so when they release it I can go
"oh cool"
velvet quarry
Playmaker is planned to release in feature update 12.2, but before that we've got feature update 12.1
plain oracle
What is Playmaker?
verbal ibex
visual scripter
elfin garnet
I prefer to know when, to get that audio thing sorted for my models, to hopefully upload models with more polys
Oh nice, tyAfromana
velvet quarry
No schedule on when those feature updates are planned to arrive sadly
elfin garnet
For a small team its understandable, with all the server and security issues sprouting due to fame
Hopefully the team grows at one point
verbal ibex
vrchat has money behind it
$5.2m to be specific
for what it is thats quite alot
though I do think vrchat needs to either gather more investment, or it needs to find a monetization model to give it either a bust/sustainable income
upper cedar
Hey, what does Playmaker let you do?
safe prism
scripting
upper cedar
For worlds?
safe prism
mhmmm
upper cedar
For more interactions yes?
safe prism
whatever VRC devs decide to let you do~
upper cedar
Its nice to see more things whitelisted
I just hope that by opening the scripting floodgates that we dont see anything malicious
safe prism
mm, depending on implementation, it can be very very very locked down
upper cedar
Wow, I could see this package implemented very well in the SAO map.
oh its visual scripting.
drag n drop
verbal ibex
well visual scripting is easier for the end user
and allows less stuff
for better/worse
be easier to safeguard than then safeguard full fledged scripting
safe prism
mhmm
safe prism
like UE4, you can build entirely functional games out of blueprints (a system like playmaker) alone. it's just thin wrappers over C++ for those qts~
and UE4 modding, a la Squad and others, locks you out of direct C++ and anything that'd be Not Very Useful⢠to the majority of modders.
verbal ibex
VR and Non-VR wouldn't really change much server wise
the same packages of data stating the current user data/user state will be sent
its more of a expense on the client side
due to the tracking of the user from the sensors
which is why VR users experience the grinding of unoptimized models more
since VR is eating up CPU
upper cedar
VR desktop runs 4x better than VR
Worlds with 20+ people? Get ready for non stop stuttering
verbal ibex
20+ people is fine
upper cedar
its nauseating
verbal ibex
if the models are fine
slate shuttle
Huh
upper cedar
cant expect that in public worlds dude
verbal ibex
people have horribly optimized models
in terms of the amount of materials and number of dynamic bones
slate shuttle
I thought servers would have to transmit/receive extra data because of minor movements from VR users
verbal ibex
the server update ticks are the same
you'd be surprised how much data you send
just standing doing nothing
you will send the same number of packages/receive the same number
to match how the server is handling data events
only time you'll receive more packages I can imagine is when you request interaction with something
slate shuttle
Ah
verbal ibex
but thats a request package instead of just a general update package
verbal ibex
though I haven't seen VRChat's backend so most of this is just how I can imagine it working
VRChat can't enforce optimisation on players that easily
the SDK can't see how many materials u have for example
grand zealot
I'm aware.
verbal ibex
also playmaker isn't the next update patch anyway
safe prism
maybe one daaay
verbal ibex
I dont
slate shuttle
Speaking of optimisations, are dynamic bones the most intensive elements in avatars in terms of CPU usage?
verbal ibex
that would be super expensive in VR
verbal ibex
err vr users have hands
safe prism
give you actual headpats and ruffle ears and stuff
verbal ibex
to do precise collisions between fingers, and other peoples models
means super precise collision boxes
slate shuttle
Sadly I've seen avatars with heaps of dynamic bones for clothing
safe prism
i mean it can just be simple colliders like it is with dynamic bones on yourself
upper cedar
^
verbal ibex
if u want to make it realistic to match up with VR
colliders only work since they have a subset of data predefined
slate shuttle
When VR gloves become popular, servers are going to have to change radically
upper cedar
gloves are gonna be trash.
verbal ibex
with other players it could be anything
verbal ibex
the amount of data to constantly parse would be horrible
upper cedar
real time finger tracking
give us model collider and you have yourself an immersive experience.
upper cedar
If we are allowed to put rigidbodies on our models we can actually touch ourselves and others without our hands phasing right through them
oh. Vibrations
Its more stimuli for touch
slate shuttle
Ohh okay
rough pulsar
Knuckles controllers. The trackpad and trigger have capsense sensors on them, and 3 more under the main body of the controllers.
Each of the capsense sensors report finger distance like a regular analog trigger.
upper cedar
Its supposta feel seamless
slate shuttle
I don't like the idea of presence/proximity sensors detecting linear motion. :(
rough pulsar
The demo videos of them in action show they work pretty well, and they recalibrate themselves automatically on a very regular basis.
upper cedar
all you have to do to calibrate them, at least the dev kit is to grip and release 3 times
simple, takes 10 seconds
rough pulsar
Yup. It's a pretty common thing to do, grab & release.
upper cedar
I'd sell left nut for a pair
rough pulsar
They also play on the concept of 'tomato presence' where if you put an object that's only vaguely similar to what you see yourself touching, your brain desperately wants to fill in the gaps and makes it seems more real.
upper cedar
^
The second headsets get 160-210 degree fov is the day I spend more of my life in VR
slate shuttle
I'm actually pretty hyped for VR finger tracking
fiery rune
136k 
rough pulsar
finger tracking on top of full body tracking and the immersion is going to go up wildly yet again.
The fov++ and holy balls
vocal shard
quick question can you rotate an object?
upper cedar
You'll instantly forget you're in vr.
vocal shard
on desktop
upper cedar
The only way we can improve after @rough pulsar is to severely reduce the weight and remove wires
vocal shard
i swear there is a wireless one comming soon from valve or facebook
upper cedar
Both are coming out with wireless vr sets. But they def wont run vrchat
they're on mobile phone hardware
vocal shard
i see
ruby trench
@everyone how do I report a hacker
ruby trench
okay thank you
vocal shard
hwid bans, when? đŚ
upper cedar
slate shuttle
I feel bad for the developers who have to write the 3d object collision detection for VR. Seems like a lot of data to detect and process
upper cedar
huh? Not really
slate shuttle
How so? Position tracking, distance tracking, speed tracking, angle tracking are things among likely others that need to be considered, right?
ebon ginkgo
there are a million 3d collision libraries for that
slate shuttle
Good point 
rough pulsar
Object collision in VR isn't much different to regular 3D if at all, and yeah, there's tons of existing solutions for it.
sturdy cove
You just see it in vr. The objects are the same as for any other 3d game
@Testemp#5138 already
sly moat
I honestly hate how people can vote kick you out for no reason, sending a useless message to mods
upper cedar
no u
sly moat
nani
sly moat
ome wa
still i hate how they kick you out for no reason, sending a useless message to mods.
upper cedar
elfin garnet
:RunSephyRun:
upper cedar
fail
elfin garnet
Oh what, rip emote
upper cedar
elfin garnet
sly moat
insert rage
upper cedar
you ever think that like, our kids are gonna look at memes from now and just think how retarded we were?
elfin garnet
Not if we educate him with da way of the memes
The dankest education they can ever have
steady burrow
Yes they will look at them like that
rough pulsar
I think they'll look at the obsessive behaviour surrounding them and how forced some of it is and think "What a bunch of morons"
vital rune
I mean
if there are some kids that actually have braincells and thought the Ugandan Knuckles meme is unfunny
rough pulsar
I think the main reason people found that meme so annoying is that it was kinda funny. Once. The first time you hear it.
After that it's just annoying, but since so many people did find it funny once, they went "Oh, this thing is funny! If I follow with this then I can be funny too!" and... well you know the rest.
vital rune
especially if you have like 15 of them
chasing you down relentlessly
"WHY ARE YOU RUNNING??"
yea good luck muting/blocking them
rough pulsar
I remember you could avoid a lot of them by going to some of the worlds with knee-length or longer grass/plants/whatever because wit them being so small, they were kinda easy to ignore.
The Nier Automata flowers world, Grass night and such were great for getting them to give up and leave.
vital rune
I bet they even try to chase the ones who use Pop Team Epic avatars
rough pulsar
I haven't seen a knuckles around in a while now.
Probably helps that Uganda is almost off the popular list these days.
dawn plinth
On peak days I see like 300 on the world, surprisingly, while most days its below 100
safe prism
i see a couple a day
dawn plinth
Yeah, but most I met seem to never talk anyway
Which is good
The rest is just kids
vital rune
I have a discussion with 8patar once
that he encountered a knuckle
who actually tried saying to his "brothers" to stop acting like morons and go to Uganda to yell "DO YOU KNOW DA WAE" since its more accepted there
like completely normal, no accent or anything
inevitable result is that he got spat on
the most decent one I encountered however, is at Cafe Lebraunc or whatever its spelling
who is simply doing waiter work and arranging tables
shadow prism
If I see a knuckles now a days, the user customized it with something unusual. This one eggman-knuckles had me laughing hard.
shadow prism
Nope
dawn plinth
The unusual and creative knuckles are still kinda funny/cool, as long as they are not annoying.
vocal shard
most of the knuckles I've met recently have been very chill
shadow prism
At first everyone screamed at him to get out and that he was not welcome but then he turned on this emote and said, in an eggman voice "nice try, see you later f***boy" and flew off in a eggmobile. I was dyin
vocal shard
shadow prism
Oh I can't remember, it was a week ago
But that knuckles was funny
They were gangster kanna
But after they saw the emote they were pretty accepting of him
vocal shard
sigh... playing VRChat inside of it its so Bored đ
shadow prism
Goofyness brings everyone together
vocal shard
Sigh... im wondering how their Emote with Sound and Custome animation...sigh...
vital rune
I've seen some Pop Team Epic avatars
steady nymph
I have that
vital rune
I dunno if I should be internally impressed or depressed
steady nymph
Huehue
vital rune
I'm predicting it will be everywhere
vocal shard
Avatars with Dynamic bones are Expensive to have T-T
dawn plinth
Best to just avoid adding too many dynamic bones/colliders then probably
vocal shard
i have a boy avatar with custome animation emot, but i dont kno how to put sound when i click Emote and plays the Custome Animation and the Sound too how....đ
vital rune
I'm surprised nobody notices my flashlight
vocal shard
im currently playing VRChat atm but its will cause lag when i switch tab dam
@vital rune Flashlight where?
btw my Ign is Same as my Discord name (Enyatsu)
vital rune
my avatar's flashligh
well the version where he has a flashlight that completely covers his face
vital rune
vocal shard
Wut? Philippines Network?
vocal shard
funny tho someone near you staring at ur eyes
and i think that Him/her "What is he doing?"
haha but why its like orb?
vital rune
I'm still worried that people would report me for using that avatar
because it will still think it has nazi imagery despite it was edited
vocal shard
Awww i hope its not gonna happen bro
why not Put a flag with your Country and change the Color of the Texture maybe that woulp help? đ
vital rune
except
how I edit the nazi imagery is just simply slapping Muse's symbol on it
and recolor the red arm bands to something like blue
vocal shard
i lke Granite Blue bro maybe just change the colors
vital rune
all because I made that Wolfenstein avatar look like he was hired by Muse as their bodyguard
straight outta 1940s
vocal shard
Hmm that pretty long and old date.
but i hope you dont get any Haters around there.
đ
~Fades Away~
vital rune
meanwhile USSR imagery were treated as memes
heady steppe
So I just found out newest unity beta has a visual shader editor
Hallelujah
I can finally make the cool shaders I've wanted without needing to know how to make shaders
silver atlas
hybrid meteor
do u kno de wey?
dawn plinth
đ˘
vital rune
I wish we got actually good ISPs here
turbid rain
anyone else having issues connecting to servers?
unborn gulch
Have you tried restarting your game?
turbid rain
yeah
tender sapphire
Blender and Unity, what could be a more perfect combo?
polar bone
It's amazing how blender is completely free
silent plume
hiii can i ask.. how can you delete an account?
potent galleon
anyone know a world where I can find a Kanna avatar with facial expressions?
umbral reef
Well that was intresting
Normally with the audio bug my sound is reversed from left to right
Now it was just turned 90 degree to the right
Like everything infront was only on the left headphone and ect
rough pulsar
Welcome to the magical unpredictable hell that is the audio bug. Please leave anything resembling normality at the door and hop on your w-axis rotated unicorn for the duration of the ride.
umbral reef
đ
dawn plinth
Wish it would atleast refresh if you join new worlds but it seems to stay broken no matter what, until you restart the entire game.
polar bone
What's a w-axis? Isn't that 4th dimension quaternion stuff?
lilac swan
w-axis is the fourth spacial direction, yeah
heady steppe
Wait the character used for the fourth axis is actually W? Holy shit, I was making a 4D text based game at one point (cancelled) and just decided to use W temporarily and research later, guess I guessed correctly
I feel like such a nerd now that I am saying what that game basically was out loud...
dawn plinth
Hi, weird problem I have atm, for some reason I am unable to upload avatars with the newest sdk, but I can do it fine with an older version, is this normal?
rough pulsar
Yep, XYZW usually
rough pulsar
W is usually with quaternions, which blow my fucking brain out trying to figure them out D:
dawn plinth
I mean I guess I can just keep using the old one if it works, but I assume the newest one would be best to use.
rough pulsar
All I know is it's the relationship between all 4 values that determine the rotation and it doesn't suffer from gimbal lock, which is why any 3D software worth anything uses them internally while presenting it to the user as regular X Y Z axis rotations.
heady steppe
I don't even understand gimbal lock properly
dense moat
im still waiting after almost 18 hours
rough pulsar
tl;dr
Two rotational axes align, can't unalign them without certain physical intervention.
dense moat
for them to fix the avatar bug
heady steppe
Which is?
heady steppe
ah
dense moat
tried didnt work
rough pulsar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8b2Jo7mno @heady steppe
Seems to explain gimbal lock quite well
heady steppe
Oh I get it now
Btw, any shader I make in the beta unity's visual shader editor should still be backwards compatible right? Since it probably exports as a normal Unity shader file
I can't test myself yet as it's still downloading
heady steppe
I've been trying to make a shader graph, looked up how to, and the option isn't there
fun
rough pulsar
Lovely. :<
I've been using Amplify Shader Editor and it's really nice.
heady steppe
Where can I get that and is it free?
rough pulsar
And coming from Blender and Cycles it's a nice familiar interface.
It's $60 on the unity asset store, so it's not free. ;D
safe prism
shader graphs are unity 2018, no?
or in shader forge
oh i scrolled
it depends if it uses newer shaderlab/etc features or not, you may have to backport a little
vocal shard
safe prism
ohayo adverto-kun
heady steppe
Found the reason https://prntscr.com/iforpw
vocal shard
Oha~
heady steppe
Ok it decided to work anyways?
safe prism
unity is good about autoupdating stuff and there's been no breaking changes in beta afaik
heady steppe
I guess it's a separate package that had to be imported, but the standard assets never worked for me for some reason so I couldn't have known
Like none of the Unity versions I have have the standard assets working properly, even though I always choose to get them
I can't view unlit master nodes for some reason đ¤
I deleted the PBR one and put in an unlit one and it's still showing me the PBR
Oh there's a preview node
Nevermind
vocal shard
does anybody know if the uploading new models etc works now?
heady steppe
Nevermind there's no way to route the master node to the preview
rough pulsar
Haven't seen in #announcements or #server-status saying everything's all okay yet, but give it a try @vocal shard, see if you can get one through okay.
steady nymph
Well I got my models uploaded few minutes ago.
So it's fine I guess
What's more, what a wonderful weather today
vocal shard
@steady nymph niceeee
heady steppe
I keep creating the weirdest stuff and I have no idea what I'm doing but this is cool
topaz lance
what version of unity does Vrchat use? It's 5.6.3p1 right?
modern sand
yep
muted maple
@modern sand are you a map tester?
modern sand
@muted maple Not really, why ?
muted maple
I got one question and i don't want to distrupt tupper
modern sand
What is it ?
muted maple
I requested to make my map public yesterday, got accepted and it wasn't public yesterday
Today i made a new request to make it public but got accepted right now
is called Space Station v11
But the thing is i was updating it right now as well..
Since i thought the map is gonna stay private for a while until tupper is back
Should i cancel the update now?
modern sand
I'm not sure i understand, is your world public or private right now ?
modern sand
So you started updating your world after submitting it for public ?
vocal shard
Hi
unkempt phoenix
I think my audio's messed up...
It sounds like stuff coming from the left is coming from the right, and vice versa, but only in VRChat. I'm not sure how to fix this.
This makes it REALLY difficult to tell who's saying what. >W<
earnest harbor
relog
woven jewel
It happens, it will fix itself. Or restart
earnest harbor
that'll fix the audio bug
topaz lance
Trying to make my first avatar with no unity experience...yes I am stupid...you can use pre rigged models or do I need to rig it myself?
jolly pebble
open relic
You can use pre rigged or run it through Mixamo.
frosty jungle
Haha did they take out the phone verification step recently?
i joined this one a while ago but didn't want to use my phone to verify soo i let it be lol
vocal shard
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
eager ledge
ty
vocal shard
eager ledge
My PC crashes every time I load too many characters, so I think my cache is getting pretty full
Or well, my C drive at least
white saffron
your whole pc crashes?
eager ledge
Yep...
At first I thought it must be something with the RAM memory or something. But I already pulled them out, blowcleaned it and put them back in.
But I notice it happening more often when my C drive is getting full
rigid crescent
gotta symlink because the cache is retarded
eager ledge
Worst part is, I have no idea what makes it so full. I've tried to clean the drive multiple times by removing junk files and whatnot. But it just keeps on getting fuller.
floral flaxBOT
There are 7387 users in VRChat currently
white saffron
ram could be going bad
I had problem on an older rig of mine
Ram starts to die, memory gets lost randomly and pc crashes
eager ledge
Hmm, my rig isn't that old, it has been upgraded multiple times in the past.
white saffron
how many stick of ram you hav
eager ledge
Yeah, see if I can spot a faulty stick by trail&error
eager ledge
I'm not sure what that 668MHz means though. Is that per stick, meaning it's 1333-ish total? https://puu.sh/zpdZ8.png
white saffron
oh jeez
and thats not how it works
its just 668
more ram is just more memory
but damn thats slow
eager ledge
Hmm, welp. The norm these days is like 1600 is it not?
white saffron
roughly
eager ledge
I was thinking about upgrading my RAM anyway. ÂŻ(ă)/ÂŻ
floral flaxBOT
There are 7512 users in VRChat currently
white saffron
Try n get ddr4 @eager ledge
tidal aspen
no it's 1333
white saffron
youll need a new motherboard tho
tidal aspen
if you have two sticks it shows half of what you have
tidal aspen
DDR means double data rate
sharp cave
so how do i get unbanned when i have an email from the moderation team saying that there's no reason for my ban
eager ledge
I was about to say, I know my RAM is old-ISH but not that old đ
tidal aspen
more capacity > more speed
frosty jungle
you got laid ingame or irl? @vocal shard
eager ledge
Also, why would I need a new motherboard if I go for DDR4? Did the socket change with DDR4?
tidal aspen
going from 1333 to 1600 isn't going to make too much of a difference
yeah it changed
there are more pins
eager ledge
Uch... ;-;
tidal aspen
ddr3 is still fine
eager ledge
288 pins, I see.
vocal shard
in real life fam. This girl wanted me to pick her up from her college class. Turns out she just wanted to get laid by yours truly.
I thought (being a dude) she just wanted to chill and play overwatch with me, but nope. There wasn't much overwatch playing.
eager ledge
Lmao ingame.... There is no such thing as getting laid in-game.... 
Well you got that "chill" part right though. The good ol' netflix&chill
vocal shard
there was no netflix&chill either. Just her making a move on me while I was just chilling on my computer
she did it in the middle of a comp game too, so I lost some SR on Overwatch lol
eager ledge
We all know that "netflix&chill" is a codeword, that does not involve netflix.
bleak tusk
đ¤ Must have happen in a dream if its a topic on discord.
eager ledge
Press X to doubt. ( ͥ° ÍĘ ÍĄÂ°)
white saffron
big milkys?
vocal shard
she's like really skinny but her jugs are the size of my dreams
and don't get me started with her love handles
bleak tusk
đ¤ 50 shades of discord.
eager ledge
Let's not drift too far off into your fantacy world big boy, this is still VRchat discord, where minors play too.
umbral reef
Im kinda wondering why you are sharing dms in here
bleak tusk
Stop sharing out personal stuff ;o
vocal shard
bleak tusk
I dont think she would appreciate having her pictures posted to a discord with 13115 random people in it. đ¤
eager ledge
Neither do any of us care tbh.
modern sand
@bleak tusk 32.000
bleak tusk
Currently đ
umbral reef
flexing those numbers đŞ
eager ledge
Soooo currently I have: Corsair ValueSelect 16 GB DDR3-1333 Kit
And I'm looking to upgrade that by adding two more sticks of 8
Would these work together: Kingston ValueRAM 8 GB DDR3-1600
Or does it have to be the same speed to be compatible?
Or even the same factory
vocal shard
I think she would because I want the world to know how perfect she is.
A solid 9.99/10
floral flaxBOT
There are 7700 users in VRChat currently
bleak tusk
Two different clock speeds, so they probably have different timings as well.
modern sand
Perfect / 9.99
Top kek
eager ledge
It's a perfect 5/7 boys!
vocal shard
there's a 0.01 chance she's secretly a boy because you can never be too sure
I've played too much VRChat.
umbral reef
Real life catfish 
eager ledge
^ And by that, you just admitted you never got laid.
modern sand
Absolute unit
umbral reef
@eager ledge Sad part is i have but i still am a low life playing this game to much
modern sand
@eager ledge nice detective work
eager ledge
Then you wouldn't say that there was a chance it's a trap.
eager ledge
Because you have been "down there"
vocal shard
my car is already pretty fucked up bccause I kept driving on it with a bad wheel bearing
it's supposed to be getting fixed today
eager ledge
Anyway, any geeks around here that could tell me if two sets of RAM sticks from different factories and different speeds will be compartible or not?
vocal shard
is it DDR4 or DDR3
eager ledge
Aka 2x8 Crossair 1333, with 2x8 Kingston 1600
vocal shard
and what motherboard
bleak tusk
Diff clock speeds. diff timings, so no.
eager ledge
Hmm, I was worried that would be the case.
vocal shard
you'd probably need a LGA 1155
motherboard
usually the 170 series have those DDR3. At least I know a few of them do.
eager ledge
I have a Asus Maximus VI Hero 1150 motherboard
vocal shard
I have ASUS Prime Z270-A
eager ledge
Anyway, to be on the safe sight I might just buy 4x8 or 2x16 RAM sticks to replace the ones I have, instead of add them.
eager ledge
Dayum son. I've never even considered duo GPU
vocal shard
I think the differences between motherboards are minimum at best.
besides like special features
like built in wifi cards, etc
I don't even use my mobo sound. I have a soundblaster x ae-5 on my computer
I want to get that asus audiophile sound card and a pair of sennheiser HD 800s
My friend has that setup and the sound quality is godlike
opaque hawk
Nice I wish I could hook my external DAC to my pc
eager ledge
Fuuuuuuck lol, I waited too long with ordering. "Order before 22:00 today, have it at home tomorrow" -> It's 22:02 now. xD
So now I'll have it monday or tuesday. Oh well, đ
white saffron
youll still get it 
eager ledge
heady steppe
So I was messing around with the new shader editor and managed to create a pretty darn cool rainbow shader, it allows you to edit basically anything in a normal material, but turns any saturation into scrolling rainbows which you can adjust, you can also make the texture scroll separately from the rainbow, this shader also allows you to show both the black and white color (which many of these rainbow ones don't), here's hoping it's backwards compatible, cause if not, this was a waste
vocal shard
heady steppe
In my hand is a pen that'll write a poem of me and you.
Fuck, backwards compatability is not a thing
floral quiver
Vrchat world just ate all my storage up. To the point the system closed everything cas of lack of disk space :'(
floral flaxBOT
There are 7866 users in VRChat currently
soft skiff
so I've got a spare Vive puck now that I've finished with a project.
And I've got an idea...
odd marlin
https://imgur.com/a/2PwKE I use Ultra Glow
umbral reef
why...
odd marlin
@umbral reef Whatâs wrong?
umbral reef
Why ultra glow 
It will be so glowly within vr for peeps
odd marlin
@umbral reef Asset Store
tender sapphire
meow meow
novel plume
i just want to speak to someone who can help me...
polar elm
Whats the issue?
novel plume
Everyday, at about 4:30 pm until 11:00 pm GMT+0, I can't play VRChat. I join a world, and then it starts randomly loading, and teleports me back into the hub where it begins loading infinitely. I checked my internet, and I'm pretty sure 20 Mbps is more than enough to play VRChat.
It litteraly happens everyday at almost the exact same time
polar elm
You have already tried to clean cache? Or reinstall
novel plume
i didint try to clean cache. but the thing is, during the day it works totally fine
no hickups nothing
onyl after 4:30 pm it starts doing this
didnt*
polar elm
Where are you from? Mabey its your isp
umbral reef
what internet speed test did ya use?
The well known one or speed?
polar elm
I ment where you live
umbral reef
speed is hosted on the netflix servers so they cant make it extra fast for users
soft skiff
just run taskmgr and keep an eye on your incoming/outgoing bandwidth
it's apparent if there's a loading problem with VRChat
novel plume
polar elm
Vrc servers have been more stable since january
umbral reef
That speedtest.net one /could/ be whitelisted to go faster always
orchid relic
well, so could this one :P
vocal shard
sup guys?
umbral reef
For that they need to whitelist all of netflix @orchid relic
umbral reef
Jup
polar elm
And you dont use a vpn right?
polar elm
Have you tried using it wired?
sacred mantle
Anyone use Driver4DR for full body tracking here? HTC Vive
polar elm
Yes rift +kinect one
sacred mantle
Does it work with HTC VIve?
Some say that the 360 kinect works and I have that, I tried setting it up but idk it was a bit complicated
polar elm
Only one of the kinects work with it. I forget which one
360 i think
Did you calibrate?
sacred mantle
That's the thing, how do you actually calibrate?
polar elm
Should be a big button on the main app, follow the directions when you hit it, your supposed to face the kinect and go to each corner of your playspace then the center
polar elm
But next update he is implimenting just lower body not full skeleton track so might help
odd marlin
https://imgur.com/a/rUTRs I use Ultra Glow
sacred mantle
Can you send me like a screenshot of your Driver4VR settings
I'm assuming you bought the gold version too
polar elm
Yes
sacred mantle
How's the tracking
polar elm
Not as good as vibe pucks, but in upcoming updates he is working on color tracking and rotational tracking
ocean lark
topaz lance
First avatar upload success!
ebon ginkgo
took you long enough didnt it
topaz lance
not really just about 3 or 4 hours
vocal shard
How big's that emote? 
@modern sand User name: VIPO777 , in my world just stole my avatar in front of my face (my IGN: Enyx) .. I just sent Mod request
topaz lance
Alright next step adding an animation override to that avatar...I feel like this is going to be really difficult
safe prism
nope
make animation override controller, inherit from the one in the SDK, drag and drop an animation into a slot~
done done done
frank anchor
Not here, but Online and Offline friends are bugged
onyx barn
Hey, anybody know of a bug where all sound is reversed in 3d space? Like sounds from the left come through right earbud, sounds in front of you sound like they're behind you, etc.?
odd lava
Known issue :/
frank anchor
just restart the game, its a sound bug
onyx barn
Gotcha, had it twice in a row, got paranoid
tawdry willow
It's server side, output log states a timeout to the server.
onyx barn
5 times in a row that audio glitch has occurred. It's consistent now, restarting won't fix it, validating doesn't, restarting my machine doesn't, reinstalling doesn't.
vocal shard
IS the server crashing right now?
shell osprey
I think so :T
sick gyro
Aye, map failed to upload, so I had a feeling
charred tundra
lol direction
rocky swallow
Anyone able to tell me how to find a specific world to get their ID so I can set them as my initial world? the one I want to set isn't an active world but I absolutely love it
echo comet
can anyone here tell me if unity have a new version out because the sdk is not working for me?
long scarab
polar elm
Teno you must use unity 5.6.3p1
echo comet
@polar elm thanks alot
floral flaxBOT
There are 7926 users in VRChat currently
uncut trail
vrchat problem ?
frosty slate
!online
modern sand
@vocal shard thanks
vocal shard
Can't upload any Avatar's
tulip veldt
Where can I find 3d model parts? Like, face, body, etc so I can put together something
I need lips and eyes. You'd think that would be easy to find....
torn cape
o man, crowbcat's comment sections
"VR is fucking shitty lmao"
"have you ever tried it?"
"w-well no but"
topaz lance
o man Youtube's comment section FTFY
Okay time to launch VR chat and hope I did this right
torn cape
it's just... fffgdfg you only have the right to bash VR if you've tried it
and at that point most people are converted
topaz lance
what irks me are the people that have used a google cardboard and called it a VR experience
torn cape
ohh yeah, ugh
you've only really tried it if you've had a comfortably adjusted vive or rift on your noggin, in a calm, quiet room, with plenty of time to play
tender sapphire
@torn cape greetings fellow cat
torn cape
đđą
tender sapphire
or thing with ears
you never know if someone looks like a cat and says something like "i'm a dog"
anyways
I appreciate people who are on discord often
frosty slate
hi mick
torn cape
ayy
quaint hill
dont you just hate it where u get your regular avatar world just disappears. :((( #RipHyperdimmensionOfOzicom
:((((
torn cape
ngl I was kinda starting to lose hope for VR, but then all these games and VRChat started coming out
verbal ibex
this is why u upload your own avatars
frosty slate
thats why i sold my first vive cuz there was no content
torn cape
my vive went from gathering dust to getting used every day
verbal ibex
free yourself from world dependency
tender sapphire
there's always hybridization of PC games with a VR headset.
polar elm
Vr is special
torn cape
also: moving with a joystick or trackpad is just fine and people who complain about it are big weenies
tender sapphire
such hybrids are like Elite Dangerous and Arma 3 (with a mod that not many people use)
i agree with Mick
torn cape
I mean, it's not ideal, but
frosty slate
arma 3 has vr support?
tender sapphire
with a mod
tender sapphire
well... a low end graphics card runs arma at an OK framerate
torn cape
one thing's for damn sure though, the concept of VR is here to stay
tender sapphire
turn the graphics down skrub
torn cape
speaking of optimization, fortnite is just fuckin' tragic
frosty slate
fortnite runs great mickkkk
torn cape
battlefield heroes graphics, can't even hit 60 fps at 4k on a 2 ghz 1080 Ti
unbelievable
tender sapphire
i intentionally go for the lowest settings so i can always have a clean 60fps.
frosty slate
well what gpu do you have
tender sapphire
GT 730 (dont ask)
verbal ibex
tfw u have a poor cpu, but a decent gpu
torn cape
i'm such a spoiled dick, i want 4k maxed at locked, vsynced 60
frosty slate
mick do you still have that amd card
verbal ibex
give it a year or 2
tender sapphire
well, you gotta have SLI titans for that
torn cape
ye, i'm gonna sell it
verbal ibex
you'll want 8k maxed at 140 vsync
torn cape
also! the 1080Ti has handled pretty much every game 4k60 maxed
tender sapphire
oof
frosty slate
i could sell my 1080 for a thousand dollars right now
tender sapphire
torn cape
i could sell my 1080ti for a lot but i use it and love it too much
verbal ibex
anyone who pays that price is either stupid or insane
torn cape
ye, i've had one for a few weeks
frosty slate
welcome to nvidia master race
torn cape
i really wanted amd but they're gonna be putting out nothing this year, so
unfortunately, nvidia it was
bye bye, best monitor feature ever đ
torn cape
man, the r9 290x was MILES ahead of what nvidia had
(the drivers were just shit so you didn't notice)
verbal ibex
the hardware is worthless
if the drivers are shit
also Nvidia slime there way into games with Nvidia specific optimisation apis
so Nvidia always wins
delicate stump
mining bullshit is a nighmare
torn cape
i'd say they're only really disappointing right now, the vega 64 just flat-out isn't as good as the 1080 ti
verbal ibex
I really need to upgrade my cpu since its a 8350 atm
torn cape
also yeah, another whole year of absolutely no competition for nvidia
verbal ibex
It gets to enjoy its 7th birthday this year
torn cape
also, what's with people saying amd's drivers are bad? i've had more bugs with nvidia drivers and don't get me started on the "UI"
verbal ibex
they always lack optimisations by a few weeks
tender sapphire
i just personally dislike the excessiveness of AMD...
frosty slate
all those times you complained to me about your gpu running vr games shit mick
and completely reset your windows
torn cape
@frosty slate i was right about that being my CPU
frosty slate
the i5?
torn cape
upgraded to a 1080ti and it still had the lag until i upgraded that lmao
ye
it did help the unreal games, tru
tender sapphire
many times lag comes from your CPU because for some reason people (companies) dont know what hardware acceleration is.
torn cape
I'unno, but my 4690k was bugged or something, all VR games ran like trash
tender sapphire
well, i don't really know much about it, but when i turn it on, my Spotify isn't a cancerfest anymore.
topaz lance
Okay fixed the animation override for my avatar. Forgot to rotate his weapon so when I pulled it out it was always pointed to his head...
mortal pecan
Is the servers down? I can't get into BR cha tat all
steady burrow
@covert chasm Yo I saw someone walking around with your name, it was [MOD] Tupper or something like that, they had a green box around their name
modern sand
@steady burrow When was this ?
mortal pecan
is there a reason for vr chat taking an extremely long time to log you in
modern sand
Try this and let me know : http://vrchat.wikia.com/wiki/Common_issues_and_solutions#World_and_avatar_loading_gets_stuck_or_is_very_slow @mortal pecan
mortal pecan
it looks like its doing better
but now my question is there a specif place I should be uploading my models too? I tried my first one and unity says its uploaded, but I just don't see it on the personal tab or anything
tulip veldt
Can I not import .max files into blender?
cloud tide
can someone get banned for being very racist
modern sand
@mortal pecan Are you using a vrchat account or a steam account ?
@cloud tide Even for just being a little bit racist
spare cypress
That's odd
I'm trying to register "Teddy" as a username, but it says it exists. But I checked in-game... There is no user with that name.
cloud tide
because these people were saying shit like, im not loved they called me a Ni***r, im not wanted making fun of me cause i dont have a dad
ect
made me feel really shitty
i have a screenshot of there named
names
modern sand
Send them to moderation@vrchat.com
spare cypress
I find it weird that there is no user named "Teddy" in-game but I can't register it as a name.
modern sand
there is
mortal pecan
im logging in with steam
spare cypress
Really now?
modern sand
you can't have avatars on a steam account
spare cypress
That's weird.
Because when you search up "Teddy" in-game there is infact no user with that name.
mortal pecan
so I have to log in outside of steam then to access them
modern sand
You have to use a vrchat account yes
@spare cypress It only shows a portion of users with that name
modern sand
Why doesn't the client show thousands of results when you lookup something ?
spare cypress
touche
modern sand
But i feel ya, it could probably show more relevant results, i'm not too certain how they're picked
spare cypress
But shouldn't a direct search of one's username bring up the user themselves?
modern sand
It should, but i'm assuming that if it currently doesn't there's a very good reason for it
spare cypress
Just sucks because I use the username "Teddy" everywhere, when it's available.
tender sapphire
do like me and make it [Teddy]
modern sand
You could also use unicode characters, but that would make you hard to find/impossible
tulip veldt
Can someone provide quick help with blender? I can't make the texture colors show for this model. :S
It's just grey
tender sapphire
incorrect ruuubick, you are still detectable using the word that your nametag consists of. people have searched "cat" and found me.
bleak tusk
Or you could do it in another language! Teddy ăă
tender sapphire
@tulip veldt can you possibly drag and drop the texture onto the model?
tulip veldt
In blender...?
tender sapphire
yes
tulip veldt
It doesnt seem to do anything
tender sapphire
or is it one you made through blender
spare cypress
Teddy was my toon's name in Toontown Online. Which I religiously played.
tulip veldt
It's not in unity
tender sapphire
so you downloaded it and it came with a texture?
tulip veldt
Yes. And I can see the texture under my materials.
But the model itself doesnt have it applied for some reason
tender sapphire
try this...
get your file explorer and go to where the model + texture file is
Drag the texture file onto your model and drop it
if you've already tried this then ignore me.
tulip veldt
Doesnt work.
odd marlin
@modern sand Youâre an admin. Windows 100% cannot be tradable
modern sand
What ?
safe prism
wait it was ipv6 related? hhahaha
i guesseddd
ipv6 infrastructure is so garbage it hurts ;-;
alpine grove
fuckin hate rooms that force audio on even when all audio is muted
bleak tusk
Is anyone else having lag - where players are rubber banding / running in place for a millisecond ? I have Broadband Quality Monitoring always running so I can always keep an eye on my internet quality and dont seem to be seeing anything happening on my end to cause it ;o
topaz sable
Are servers on fire again?
visual ridge
seems like it, I can't get on
fervent frigate
cant get on
balmy tide
Oh good I'm not the only one having issues. I can get on, but nothing's loading. Worlds, avatars, social, nothing.
odd marlin
I can't do use Google Translate.
modern sand
First, please stop pinging me, second, i have no idea why you're linking me to any of this
odd marlin
I'm sorry.
vital rune
what happened to online friends
covert chasm
frosty slate
name color promotion
indigo fern
But Tupper is now the strongest there is
obsidian pagoda
remember that time some clown came in here like
"tupper will never get true admin"
lul
vocal shard
He's still defeated by a wooden stick so 
indigo fern
I want Tupper to admin my real life
hasty anchor
Who created the Void Club?
turbid agate
Hmm, wondering what i should put on my refined Runescape Hoppou đ¤
frozen kayak
Other than using oculus mirror does anyone know a good way to stream on the oculus?
compact hearth
How do I toggle speak when using the headset?
flint ridge
Well I would personally put the settings to open mic and not toggle. However, I do not own a VR so I'm in the dark.
iron heart
well i was using my phone and mobile vr shit headset and i wanted to sit anyway so i just press V like normal. I put my headphones on for mic and sound as well so i looked ridiculous but it was working
glass dove
Hey