I had to change my graphics card when i built my pc
#vrchat-general-2
vocal shard
leaden kiln
it averages around 56% with discord and recording software in the background
vocal shard
I need to shave my face again. I've been in VR for so long my facial hair is starting to grow out again
Adult problems
safe prism
become girl and all your facial hair problems go away~
umbral reef
i wonder now...
You shaved badly before, had not a super sharp blade or stayed in vrchat for legit almost a day
vocal shard
My hair grows out pretty fast fam.
it only takes a man 2-3 days to have facial hair again after shaving
btw
umbral reef
Ow i know
I got that problem myself i shave everyday with old blades if im lazy and every other day with new blades
As it helps a lot but still
leaden kiln
Old blades aren't lazy, electric trimmer is lazy
vocal shard
I get stuck in the VR world that sometimes I forget to shave until I start rubbing my chin and realise that I need to shave.
lel
supple dune
I can relate. i use old dull blades for 2-3 weeks, then about every month i open a new blade.
umbral reef
Its so much work to not forget to buy them at the store
Might also be why i bought like a mega pack of them with an insane amount of blades in it
vocal shard
I have electric razers. One for trimming, and the other for shaving. I don't even have to buy shaving gel for my stuffs.
supple dune
or when you get lazy on buying new ones so you continue to use the dull one
vocal shard
just grease for the blades
safe prism
have them shipped like i do
:x
not viable everywhere but
i shave my entirety twice a week and get 4 blades a month so i'm never using dull stuff~
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
vocal shard
That's way too much. Just buy electric stuff and buy grease for the blades lol
so they never go dull
steady nymph
When ppl stole your 2D avatar rather than your 3D model feelsbadman
Wonderful weather today
umbral reef
well today is the best day of the year π
lilac shale
today is better than yesterday
vital rune
not looking neither
since I dont particularly care about it
doesnt help that HDTF here is going to be released on Valentine's Day for me so it gets even worse
lilac shale
I'm looking forward to seeing VRChat during valentine's
Should be entertaining in more than one way
vital rune
also I butchered my own name
echo comet
my headphones keep on making static nosieses and can't her nobody. everyone have a earing aid thing ear when the other players talk into their mic?
can somebody help?
lilac shale
is that everywhere or just in vrchat
echo comet
both
lilac shale
plug them in harder
I mean like make sure they're fully plugged in
otherwise prolly gotta buy a new pair, can also try fiddling with the wiring near the jack, if it makes any difference you can repair that instead
can also try changing sound settings in windows
echo comet
alright thx
drowsy tulip
Hey guys, i've asked before but got no answer. Maybe you know some The Division related VR Chat guilds? If not, any ideas where i can find people who do?:D
errant merlin
I doubt you'll be able to find a group that's dedicated to agents in VRChat
drowsy tulip
I saw a guy in the game who had a manhunt status above his head.
errant merlin
That sounds interesting
visual venture
drowsy tulip
@errant merlin You too play Division i assume?:D
lyric nebula
So how's the state of the avatar theft thing nowadays?
slate shuttle
lilac shale
avatar theft OMEGALUL
lyric nebula
legit question Nyx
lilac shale
sorry it just reminds me of roleplaying communities where people would kill for their OCs
legit answer is if you don't want your shit quote unquote stolen, don't show it in public
lyric nebula
legit reaction is they don't quote unquote steal it, they steal it, doesn't matter if you're in public, it's searchable and downloadable by name and I wanna know if that shit's fixed π
lilac shale
unless they try to sell them or something, I'm not sure
every time I've looked at it it's been a grey area at best and only locally enforced by administration when it wished to do so
lyric nebula
you talkin about the hack now or if it's possible to "steal" an avatar?
lilac shale
Talking about that's I'm not sure you can call it theft
lyric nebula
That doesn't matter really. The consequence is that people who craft stuff from scratch feel like they're being stolen from and that causes them to leave
And they happen to often be the same people who make worlds
You can be as pedantic as you want about it π
You can also omegalol in the same maps until the sun sets forever
shadow prism
Especially if someone paid for their avatar
vocal shard
how come this is still a thing. whatever devs do to the hack, they still fix the cheat. all the time.
lyric nebula
I don't know if they really did fix it this time though, which is why I ask
I've only seen one hacker boast about it
and he might have been lying
vocal shard
and focus seems to be put on the prevention instead of detection if skin is stolen or not
lyric nebula
I suppose a lot of the systems have to be rewritten in order to "hardcode" an avatar to the original author and then also rewrite the pedestal system
vocal shard
is this even in progress? we dont know a thing
lyric nebula
No idea, but VRPill has posted an announcement that they're aware of the concerns at least
vocal shard
we can only hope and my friendlist is shrinking everyday because of people who cannot see any working fixes
lyric nebula
mine too π¦
lilac shale
I only visit like one map so I'll take iy
I don't care about avatars or male or anything. Just conversation.
Maps*
lyric nebula
I guess there's no way to talk you into having a tiny bit of sympathy for the people who do put a lot of work into that stuff, then. Maybe if I pay you? You have a patreon? π
lilac shale
And what use do I have with creators who don't share their creations anyway
lyric nebula
Maps and avatar pedestals
lyric nebula
Sounds like just your general run of the mill internet person to me
doesn't have to mean they hack
lilac shale
Would that make a difference
lyric nebula
Yes
lilac shale
Because?
lyric nebula
If you don't hack but just don't give a shit, that just makes you a...negative influence on creators. If you hack that would mean you actively try to push creators out, no matter if you mean to or not
Big difference really
vocal shard
^
lilac shale
Again, what do we need from creators who don't share their creations
lyric nebula
Again, the ones who have their personal avatars also make avatars for free use and maps for free use
shadow prism
Unless you want everyone just to sit in the same room with the same avatar, like communist Russia
lilac shale
But seeing someone else use their avatar makes them leave huh
lyric nebula
Seeing someone else use their personal avatar makes them leave, yeah!
vocal shard
Rip
lyric nebula
You probably won't π
shadow prism
I got nothing, can we talk about something else?
trail stirrup
lol
lilac shale
I probably won't, because someone appreciating my paintings enough to use them would make me very happy
trail stirrup
i uploaded my personal model for anyone to use
but noone uses it
if some hacker stole it i'd be happy they care :)
lyric nebula
@patent atlas it's more like someone logging onto your facebook account and using that, you know
some people don't care. it would be nice if they empathize with people who do care
trail stirrup
the true value of a personal model is that it's personalized exactly to your taste so it's prettty pointless to steal it
lilac shale
Uuuuuum
Someone using your private account is the same as someone using a public model
Oooookay
trail stirrup
i have trouble empathizing with those sorts of.. people
lyric nebula
personal avatars aren't "public" models as much as you showing your painting would make it "public". it's still yours an you should get to decide how it's used
if I took the painting and told people I'd painted it, would that be cool with you? All PR is good PR?
trail stirrup
it's funny though because most of these "personal" avatars are just ripped from something else
lilac shale
Show me someone who actually claims they made it then
trail stirrup
it's very rare to see a totally original avatar and when you do it's usually a meme
lilac shale
Pretty sure they just use them for fun
Not to claim ownership
Or that they made it
trail stirrup
yes but to get upset about someone "stealing" it...
vocal shard
What about avatars that are created by scratch??
lyric nebula
Point is I don't have control over that, and I didn't sign up for that
I create all my avatars from scratch btw
vocal shard
i have own pewsonal avatar i modeled from cube. AMA
trail stirrup
nice
vocal shard
Same
lyric nebula
I have two that I use for myself and three that I give away from pedestals
lilac shale
Point is you have legal or in my opinion moral basis to call people thieves
versed hound
Does anyone know anything about the fixing of the game???
lilac shale
Accept the reality or move on
lyric nebula
My opinion is that it's totally moral to call them thieves AND assholes
versed hound
Cus you know, without friends its kinda boring...
shadow prism
You know, all you can do is say your piece. You can't force others to share your opinion. It would be really nice not to see this tired old argument that has been around since Napster
vocal shard
this is basically discussion between owner of property and a burglar right now
trail stirrup
what
lyric nebula
"please don't steal my stuff"
"but it isn't stealing and also deal with it and also I don't really want your stuff anyway!"
trail stirrup
"i published my work in a public space and someone stole a copy of it"
lilac shale
right?
shadow prism
Yes I understand, but a tree and a lumberjack will never see eye to eye
lyric nebula
no, publishing it would mean giving people access to the source files
vocal shard
"i published some thing in public space with rights and law protecting me to some degree, yet someone breaks the law without punishment"
fixed for ya
lilac shale
no, publishing it would mean giving people access to the source files
that is absolutely not true
lyric nebula
^
trail stirrup
i bought a 4" pvc pipe piece off amazon and and my neighbor stole the package in the hour between it arriving and me seeing the arrival notice
lilac shale
look into licensing also
trail stirrup
i wish i could have seen his face when he opened it
lilac shale
let's see huh
when burglar steals something, owner loses it
not in this case
so like can we not
trail stirrup
@vocal shard so sue them
shadow prism
I give up skips off
trail stirrup
don't publish in an unsecure space?
lyric nebula
haha yup
vocal shard
with adddress
trail stirrup
stop caring?
lilac shale
i published some thing in public space with rights and law protecting me to some degree, yet someone breaks the law without punishment
have you actually studied copyright law?
vocal shard
stop being an ass?
lilac shale
they do not use your creations for commercial reasons
lyric nebula
my only point is creators care to the point where they leave the game and we're all poorer for it
lilac shale
which makes law coverage pretty weak
lyric nebula
and yet it's more important to be a pedant about the word theft
lilac shale
the only thing that's hurt is your feelings
this has nothing to do with being a pedant
lilac shale
you gonna call people criminals because your feelings got hurt, you better damn well mean it man
vocal shard
its like i am talking to the wall right now
lyric nebula
pretty sure it's possible to take people to court for ripped video game art actually π if blizz decided to do it for the overwatch characters for instance
dawn plinth
π€
lyric nebula
there has been several court cases I think,between video game companies
where people have taken the source files and used them for other projects in other companies
I remember one a couple of years ago but have forgotten which game
trail stirrup
making a mountain out of a molehill
lyric nebula
no, industry people taking the source files and making new games with them at a different company
that shit's pretty serious
lilac shale
that's commercial use
that's a whole other story
if they were selling your models, I'd be saying completely opposite things right now
lyric nebula
what if someone pays for an avatar and it gets stolen, as someone mentioned earlier?
nothing stops them from selling the models either
if they have the source files
lilac shale
what difference does that make?
you don't pay for exclusive rights to the avatar, you pay so it gets made for you
trail stirrup
still pretty insignificant stuff compared to lawyer costs
sharp igloo
if i want to get in contact with a moderator or admin where should i go?
lyric nebula
pretty heavy sidenote though because no matter how much you talk about law, creators are still leaving vrchat
trail stirrup
well what ya gonna do about it
trail stirrup
maybe we can go witht hem
lyric nebula
and failing
sharp igloo
anyone?
lilac shale
Creators are free to leave
Or accept the deal
Like it is every time
You post something online, it will get taken
That's how it works
sharp igloo
oh so you're one of those people
lyric nebula
yup
sharp igloo
''i can't stop it so nobody can stop it''
trail stirrup
i like the guy who essentially covered his avatar in watermarks with his username lol
sharp igloo
coward
lyric nebula
word Rivvion
trail stirrup
hey guys stealing things
lilac shale
π
lilac shale
[3:44 PM] Rivvion: ''i can't stop it so nobody can stop it''
I mean I'd rather people who make bullshit copyright claims get fucked to be honest (not saying yours are)
I've just seen some shit
People will be like
This is a monkeyshark, this is my own PRIVATE COPYRIGHTED NEW SPECIES
and be like nobody can draw it
like the fuck
sharp igloo
in that i agree with you
sharp igloo
that's what needs specification, but there is none because this discussion never leaves this stage of going back and forth
vocal shard
I try to make my species as simple as possible π€
sharp igloo
everyone wants results for the future but nobody is digging through bedrock to lay foundation.
:/
lyric nebula
my only issue here is that I saw a community of creators that had great potential that we're now losing because of hackers and people like Nyx
lyric nebula
he also said "what use are creators who don't share all of their creations"
sharp igloo
which is reasonable
lyric nebula
or something of the sort
sharp igloo
right so that's something to disagree with
lyric nebula
and "I don't care about map makers, I only hang out in one map"
lyric nebula
you're not sorry and it's fine that you don't
but by being as vocally cynical as you are, you're doing damage also π
sharp igloo
there's no good or bad in individuals, there can't be people that you either fully agree with or fully disagree with
lilac shale
In my eyes "creators" are people who are showing off avatars and particle effects to each other and I have 0 interest in that and it only makes my life harder since I have to search for interesting conversations longer
sharp igloo
nah, that's an overexageration lhannan
lyric nebula
we can't even agree on the fact that more maps are good?
vocal shard
u dont, others do. but yeah you are pretty egoistic
sharp igloo
also
sharp igloo
type slower, because the faster you type the less time you spend on reading what the other is trying to say
and that's selfdestructive for any conversation
lyric nebula
this is true Rivvion π
Community is important however, and this loud denounication of people who are trying to make new content for everyone, for free, is something I'm gonna argue against
until I run out of steam, which by today's standards should be pretty much tomorrow
And that they just have to deal with being shown no respect for it
is also something that I will argue against
sharp igloo
no use in repeating what's been said tho so be carefull of echoing yourself
vocal shard
I don't really like to show off my avatars actually. π€
trail stirrup
:)
vital rune
what the f8co 9s g09ng 0n
sharp igloo
well that doesnt make as much sense
vital rune
I mean
sharp igloo
since you can make endless instances of maps
vital rune
what the fuck is going on
lilac shale
I doubt VRChat will die because people take avatars
Highly doubt
The same shit's happening in all creative communities and they're alive and well
sharp igloo
you can't discourage or blame creators for their work being stolen just because they uploaded it, they aren't asking for it, even though it is to be expected, they're still not asking for that to happen
lyric nebula
And what I'm saying is that since the latest news broke...my friend list of creators has been pretty empty.
sharp igloo
because of this it's on VRchat team to make sure that's sorted
lilac shale
I'm just saying, that's the reality
sharp igloo
and while it's not sorted it's on them to stop allowing hackers or stealers to do what they do
lyric nebula
It's not really to be expected that they steal your source files either tbh. That's the one that broke the camel's back really
stealing avs that lasted until they logged out, people kinda dealt with that one
vital rune
well
if your avatars were shit-tier like mine
stealing them is like wasting your own time
lyric nebula
my avatars range from shit tier to pretty good π
sharp igloo
stealing work of others should not be allowed because it'' happens so often anyway'' that's as much clear, but can you expect it will happen? yes because VRchat team hasnt finnished disabeling them from doing so yet
lyric nebula
I have made my own line of shit tier avs that I use until hackertown is over
sharp igloo
should be soon though if they want to keep their playerbases
vital rune
@lyric nebula hell
if it isnt enough
I butchered a Wolfenstein enemy to have Muse symbols
lyric nebula
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVeB68pXcAAbutc.jpg:large look at this glorious av
icy pasture
i try to boot it up but it's stuck on the pre-loading screen
all i see is the space skybox
sharp igloo
oh that's a sick ava
lyric nebula
it's so shit tier it doesn't even have faces
sharp igloo
give me your sade of the story telling about WHY you feel that way
lyric nebula
he already did earlier, don't go into the rabbit hole nooo
sharp igloo
because if i made something that i wanted to share with a select group of people i care about, i still wouldnt like people outside that group to get it through shady means
lilac shale
I did yeah
icy pasture
k it works nao
vocal shard
lyric nebula
@sharp igloo glad at least the two of us agree on that
sharp igloo
listen
lilac shale
Short version: nobody gets hurt other than feelings of the creator if he chooses to let them be hurt
lilac shale
cya
sharp igloo
fidelity in content for most industries improve on a skyrocketing pace because there IS copyright
people compete with eachother because of that
it brings better quality content as a whole
but with VR chat that doesnt apply because there is no copyright
otherwise 90% of the avatare would be imported illegally and breaking copyrighgt
lilac shale
I don't buy the whole better quality content argument because I consider it to be an ethical issue rather than "what's best for the industry" one
sharp igloo
but the thing that keeps creators making better and cooler avatars is the competition for fame or in this case money
just some cases
if you have an open economic anarchy there's no point in making new content because it would lose its value in an instant
lilac shale
I just ask myself "do I think it's morally wrong to use the avatars for personal reasons like having fun"
And I can't answer yes
tbh
lilac shale
I can understand why it can be frustrating, but I don't think that someone being potentially frustrated is a good reason to say yes
sharp igloo
that's a side channel argument
mixxing both subjective and objective arguments which will get us nowhere
you can have an oppinon on something but if it's illegal and done illegally
lilac shale
Objectively it's not theft
sharp igloo
no ammount of oppinions make that right
it is theft because it is taken from creators without consent
lilac shale
creators don't lose it
sharp igloo
the whole ''if they don't know you stole it , you didnt steal it'' fairy tale is dumb
digitally copying content through illegal means is theft
and it has been considdered such for a long time
lilac shale
what's illegal about those means
sharp igloo
like burning content from one cd to another
sharp igloo
that doesnt matter
lilac shale
yes it does
sharp igloo
there is no money involved
lilac shale
you can take pictures of celebrities, but cannot use them to advertise, for example
money is the key here
sharp igloo
theft through copying still decreases the value from the original```it doesnt take value, it decreases it```you can't deny that
sharp igloo
right that's it now you're just circle jerking
if you want to keep chasing tails like that i'm done here
lilac shale
well it's just in copyright law money is the key part
I don't know what are you on about
trail stirrup
see chat is a lot more interesting when we have something to argue about
torn ingot
What is VRChat's business model gonna look like?
unborn gulch
Mostly some people say the best time to have a chat is come up with an argument
lilac shale
What is VRChat's business model gonna look like?
good question tbh
reef patrol
Chat about should killing people be legal
lilac shale
killing people be legal
I mean the US still does it OMEGALUL
NA people and their freedoms
trail stirrup
keep in mind that if an advertiser has even heard of vrchat all he knows is knuckles meme
lilac shale
they got investments from vr companies afaik
trail stirrup
that much makes sense
lilac shale
I mean yeah, this shit so far is the only thing that made me even consider VR headset
trail stirrup
damn straight
lilac shale
the feeling has since then passed, but I haven't seen anything better
trail stirrup
i just want fingers
lilac shale
Perhaps in a couple of years they will actually come up with something to do with the bloody VR
trail stirrup
gonna try the leap motion hack
manic imp
Does anyone know to mount avatar? example: pick up the base and go putting dress
uncut trail
What's going on with VR chat like most places are empty
lilac shale
Might be too early or something
uncut trail
Nope useally active at madcat or great pub but down to (5-6 people at madcat and 200 at TGP
lilac shale
no clue
what's madcat
π€
like what stuff
I prefer good ol' pug
nothing but conversation
perfect
can't even jump
jade slate
sudden palm
@rough elm It was an honor having you visit the map I submitted that went live yesterday
modern copper
Can't stand not jumping in worlds lol
unborn gulch
You use Unity to add your own personal worlds right?
vocal shard
Yes.
unborn gulch
That sounds to do
pseudo holly
@eager crag Did I ever add you as a friend? Because I used to see you alot but I don't remember and vrchat seems to be breaking all my friendslist stuff.
unborn gulch
Friendlist still broken?
steady nymph
For offline list
steady nymph
Ello
unborn gulch
What time is it for you now?
steady nymph
10:05 PM
worn ember
Hello vrchat 0/
dawn plinth
Greetings
unborn gulch
Hello While behind bars
dawn plinth
worn ember
Still banned taxic?
eager crag
@pseudo holly Nope! but you're welcome to add me
vital rune
too busy doing fictional bodyguard work alongside a batallion of bodyguards just to escort Β΅'s
and yes we have tanks, just as my fantasies didnt get absurd
worn ember
You have a bunch of people walking around a muse? Oh I want to see this lol
worn ember
Well yeah I was thinking of maus. But Mose, the band makes since. Iβve only heard the name so few I donβt think of them except the tank lol.
steady nymph
Feelsbadman @unborn gulch
unborn gulch
@steady nymph How long do you usually stay up?
unborn gulch
@steady nymph I stay up late a lot too, I just randomly pass out to get sleep.
steady nymph
Lel
unborn gulch
It's me
topaz notch
Waffles.
dawn plinth
Apples..
unborn gulch
French Toast
Why do you care?
I wasn't mad
I was just asking too xd
lol
@upper hinge
vocal shard
Easiest one to find.
lyric nebula
I think it has a little bit to do with availability, the MMD catalog was super huge so it was easy to find an unique avatar from the get go
why they're all female, no idea
would love to hear someone with one of those avs chime in on this. I've talked to one but he just shrugged and said he felt like it?
hasty wedge
whomst would be a guy
out of 10 trillion cells creatures and things we could be orn as a human but failed the very last 50/50 between male and female
tidal aspen
people just dance in vr
you look dumb in real life but if you ignore that it's pretty fun
tender sapphire
i "appreciate" samuel's s***posting
violet tiger
so like im waiting for my vrchat to load which its not, but im sitting her enjoying the space music they have XD
need this to be on my phone
unborn gulch
Lol
lilac swan
The day shitposting gets a dedicated channel, I'm out
unborn gulch
LOL
tender sapphire
*gets new graphics card*
*jumps into VRChat*
*plays "never have I ever"*
*gets 20 friends instantly*
"now i need a new graphics card again"```and I'm taking all of you out with me
unborn gulch
I'll ban that channel from me seeing it
violet tiger
dedicated lambo
unborn gulch
Or beg a mod to not let me see it
tidal aspen
why shitpost in discord when you can shitpost in game
unborn gulch
π€
tender sapphire
@violet tiger press alt+F4 and open VRChat again
topaz notch
squeee
tender sapphire
even for my low end computer, it takes 3 minutes to load VRChat.
@lilac swan what if they marked the s***posting channel as NSFW
that would make it worse but you wouldn't see it unless you wanted to, which would solve one problem and develop 3 more
violet tiger
nope didnt work
tender sapphire
aw man
lilac swan
Only solution to a shitposting channel is to join another discord server
tender sapphire
oof
tender sapphire
is there a button you can push?
tender sapphire
jam session to lofi beats
unborn gulch
Have you tried validating the files?
hard fern
so if someone kicks you out of a world without a proper reason, and not giving you a chance to stop, what do you do? i dont know when you type this to, so i'm asking here
out of a world i mean
it happened yesterday
hasty wedge
o7
hard fern
i'm still bothered about it but eh, if i have to i'll talk to a moderator
lilac swan
Nothing much you can do besides joining a different instance or waiting an hour to rejoin that particular instance again
hard fern
It said a mod will see me or something but ok thank you
velvet quarry
Don't think there's any particular rules against world and instance owners kicking people for their own reasons, perhaps unless their reasoning breaks the community guidelines.
You don't have to worry about that notification unless you're getting consistently kicked across the board.
hard fern
alright thanks
lilac swan
Exactly. Unless you're pretty much votekicked from every instance you join, then nothing's going to come out of it.
hard fern
I got kicked about once or so, its fine but thank you anyways
unborn gulch
@steady nymph Go to bed!
tender sapphire
what is probably the only building you leave without entering? the hospital.
unborn gulch
Wow
Thatβs a lie
@tender sapphire When you visit a patient
Or a family member
You have to walk in and out
βοΈ
tender sapphire
when you're born
lyric nebula
@upper hinge late reply but clubbing in vr is awesome. you dance dance dance and you dance dance dance
tender sapphire
i'm the alcohol vending cat
lyric nebula
no line for the toilet, and you can instaswitch instances if someone is acting like a jerk. in other words better than a real club
unborn gulch
xC
tender sapphire
lol it's okey we're all retarded
lyric nebula
and also you can turn down the music
unborn gulch
β€οΈ
lyric nebula
vr clubbing > real clubbing
lyric nebula
the minors are always men well into their 20s so aint no thing
tender sapphire
^half true^
steady nymph
@unborn gulch Reeeee
tender sapphire
its 1038am for me
tender sapphire
"texting"
*typing on discord*
unborn gulch
But, technically itβs the same thing
tender sapphire
@upper hinge so you're saying that VRChat is full of bots?
yet another s***poster
lyric nebula
@upper hinge the lack of real life people is one of the best features of a VR club
π
no drunk shit spilling beer at you, no people getting you into their fights, no stinky breath in your face, no gropey jerks on the dance floor
I mean there are gropey jerks but you can block them π
frozen relic
That moment when you could be getting you vive tomorrow I'm so freaking excited
charred scroll
well, was about to buy a graphic card today. then the price increased by 54β¬
great memes
tender sapphire
OMG the teacher told me to make a skit about ebola
modern sand
Buy a good CPU instead god dangit
tender sapphire
i thought VRChat wasn't CPU intensive? @modern sand
modern sand
you thought wrong
velvet quarry
Both my GPU and CPU tend to max out in VRChat, depending on the world / avatars
lilac shale
yeah judgint by cpu load it's not easy on it
charred scroll
never goes above 30% usage
tender sapphire
if i want to upgrade anything i basically have to get a new MoBo, CPU, and Powersupply... oof
tender sapphire
yes
Specs:
Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16Ghz
8gb ddr2
235w PSU (small mobo connector wtf)
GT 730 1GB GDDR5
grand total: $200```lmao
tender sapphire
i literally cannot upgrade without changing my PSU
velvet quarry
Those specs might be a bit difficult to work with yes
charred scroll
my toaster takes more!
tender sapphire
i actually use 5 more watts than reccomended when my computer's at max power
@charred scroll my microwave takes more than most gaming PCs boi
tender sapphire
but yeah.
change powersupply at the least (but you have to have the correct adapter) and then you can upgrade to quad core extreme for $100 and upgrade GPU to a performance beast
charred scroll
i have been, not my thing
hasty wedge
smh normies
modern sand
Let's not target anyone with statements
topaz notch
Only target Ruuubick, with pizza statements.
tender sapphire
ignore samuels. he's simply s***posting
rigid crescent
are online and offline friends not showing now?
tender sapphire
online show
rigid crescent
"its called living in germany" lol that's all I heard about Germany when I took (and failed it) in highschool, discotheques
tender sapphire
sometimes theres a VRChat OS error that leaves search results blank
but restarting or rejoining the game/world fixes that problem
unborn gulch
@hasty wedge Be my fwiend
:3
@tender sapphire huh weird Iβve never encountered that before
tender sapphire
it's happened about 3 times for me.
unborn gulch
Gay
tawny elk
When will VRchat eventually move to 2017.3
upper cedar
arguements in general chat 
tawny elk
What argument
upper cedar
β¬
viral delta
Hi
tender sapphire
hi
fallow kite
Hey ^w^
dawn plinth
uncut talon
Hi c:
tender sapphire
i guess i should unmute them then
vocal shard
So I know that the offline friends list is gonna be gone for a while but some of my friends have said that sometimes even when a friend is online, it wont even show them in their friends list which leads some people to believe that VRchat is glitching and DELETING friends from peoples friends list.
I hope this gets fixed soon :T
tender sapphire
no deletions are taking place. you can search the friend still
vocal shard
Its not deleting friends, just a bug. If you're in the same room as them, itll still say that you have them added.
opaque hawk
i have to stay out of the dev channels whenever they turn into a streak of mostly βcan anyone help meβ with no context or screenshots
tender sapphire
that sounds annoying
tender sapphire
noooo....
vocal shard
being casual pleb is nice....we do not know where to even write our annoying [ aka nice ] messages...nahhhh...I talk with my wall again...I'm stupid
opaque hawk
its becoming more rare as they discover tuppers great tutorial series. Which imo are some of the best youtube tutorials Ive seen next to ghazworks
opaque hawk
That would be great
unborn gulch
Omg itβs Monika!
vocal shard
opaque hawk
Iβm halfway there using deviantart bases and ripping parts from models (if allowed)
unborn gulch
Just Monika
unborn gulch
I have more Monika memes than you
vocal shard
Phone.
unborn gulch
?
vocal shard
No monika memes in phone
unborn gulch
Wdym?
vocal shard
I dont got meis
vocal shard
I seem to only have photos of food in here
tender sapphire
hey moderators, can i share a discord link to my newly-made VRChat Lurkers server?
vocal shard
Unless its a #community-servers-old, I think no.
tender sapphire
DM me for the server invite then.
little relic
is there free cookies
tender sapphire
yes. and a section for unsafe content
vocal shard
why was Hyperdimension of Ozicom taken down?
the author needs to know so he can fix the issue
tender sapphire
#world-development might be more likely to be read by the author
clever prairie
Are raids on servers in vrchat allowed or not
vocal shard
aslong as they arnt how kanna gang was, yeh
Hoppou are great examples of good raiding 
clever prairie
What is kanna gang and hoppou.
vocal shard
oof
clever prairie
Hello?
soft patio
Kanna Gang is a gang comprised of Kannas
Kanna is a character from a show that I don't watch or remember the name of
safe prism
doragun meido~
soft patio
something about Dragon Maids or some shit
safe prism
miss kobayashi's dragon maid
hoppou is an antagonist boss from the game kancolle, or kantai collection
clever prairie
Gg
safe prism
a little loli that wants to sink you~
clever prairie
Reason I asked is because a warhammer vrchat group is at war with the auff
safe prism
i mean
it's really fun to find people that know the character or even other abyssals
i'm usually kongou and i have a friend that i occasionally find that's yamato~ we once found airfield hime to bully~
most people just see a cute loli and be it ._.
tawdry apex
Hyperdimension of Ozwhatever needs to come back online as a world. Vrchat has suffered without the Felix avatar available. What happened to that world? Who on here created the map? Why is it gone?
vocal shard
If its gone, probably being updated.
safe prism
you could upload your own felix ._.
tawdry apex
I read that it was taken offline in another channel. That the creator supposedly doesn't know why.
I don't want to be Felix Nyano.
vocal shard
Ah, then no idea. Could email moderation@vrchat.com though.
tawdry apex
The sharp decline of users as Felix, especially that particular model, is depressing.
light seal
WTF, i was afk in vrchat with my own avatar and when i came back, i had another avatar on me... can someone explain me what happened there? ._.
eager ledge
Someone maybe uploaded something on your pipeline ID? If your avatar is replaced in the menu too, just detach it and reupload it.
sour willow
Is it possible to block/mute vrchat moderators --> as a way to identify whether or not someone is trying to impersonate vrchat staff to scare us
assuming we can't actually block mods/staff
Just had someone threaten to ban one of my friends for having one of those clan logos on their avatar
leaden kiln
I got kicked out of my avatar to the default last night. I also get stuck in one avatar but everyone else sees me as the one I changed to.
modern sand
@sour willow What is that user's name ?
sour willow
My friend says he didn't check fast enough cause the guy left, and says, "his name was like kanst or something idk"
He says he wasn't able to block the guy
leaden kiln
the output logs show every person in every room you go to
vocal shard
Why are people disappearing from the Offline Friends?
sour willow
I gotta sleep, @crude lotus if you figure it out reply here
vocal shard
Help me, I got public banned and i got brainwashed by watching VRPhill's video for 15min on repeat
I am reformed
fathom hearth
oof
novel cradle
is there a command to see how many people are in this server
narrow carbon
No but you can try counting .-.
novel cradle
im curious because if theres 12k people on now this server has to be pretty damn big
narrow carbon
there is 13k on right now
novel cradle
im trying to find out which server is the biggest
out of all of them
for a while it was the shitpost server but supposedly there are 50k people in the ice poseidon discord so I dont know
vocal shard
If you mean in this discord, around 30K.
safe prism
fortnite and overwatch are the biggest
novel cradle
how many users?
trim hamlet
safe prism
novel cradle
oh cool site
novel cradle
?????
vocal shard
Pretty sure we'll only have VRCBot in here.
uncut trail
Hmm why is my Lenovo explorer heats up during VRChat π¦ maybe i should return it and get my money back and buy occulus rift for $421.00
blazing mauve
what's the cheapest option to get vr and hand tracking in vrchat? I'm kind of a noob and I don't know what is needed
opaque hawk
The wmr but also drakeos just said he wants to return his
I recently got the dell version of the windows mixed reality. I canβt have room tracking on or else it crashes steam.
blazing mauve
problem is I have a small room so I kinda discarded the option for a full body tracking stuff
opaque hawk
Well it works, and itβs not perfect. But yeah just download the windows mixed reality app from the windows store to make sure your computer can handle it
I do recommend a powered usb 3.0 hub to power the headset
blazing mauve
uhm ok thanks a lot!
oh wait just another question, which manufacturer do you recommend? Was searching on amazon and I see a lot of em
rigid crescent
Probably Oculos or Vive
unborn stone
I am using the PSMove controllers (for a bit until I can get the Oculos) but they work pretty good. I can't point or do all of the cool stuff people with the good geart can but it works.
novel cradle
keep in mind that the controllers for WMR are bluetooth so if your PC cant do bluetooth connections then you'll have to buy a dongle
unborn stone
I had to make this one glowing green pingpong ball so I could have position tracking but it requires you to open 3 programs. A bit confusing for starters tho.
blazing mauve
yeah I'm already looking into that because of a bluetooth sennheiser headset my brother just bought
mmh I see
the only thing stopping me is that I have my psvr box kinda tangled in a weird way near the ps4, it would require a lot of work to put out and in place every now and again
but glad to see I could consider that option to "test", thanks
novel cradle
I believe so
keen chasm
Do you ever notice when you join a world certain worlds will not let you in?
I keep having this problem with one world in particular
cedar bridge
timid light
Well i made a mine turtal and it did not register the rig
vocal shard
Should I report someone who has a KKK member avatar?
Because there is someone on the server I am on who has a KKK avatar.
sour sandal
can of worms about the whole freedom of speech thing ...
but hey i personally think every hitler and kkk or "bedsheet ghost" avatar user deserves a punch to the face
vocal shard
Yes, Rem.
candid marsh
Why tho
It's the highest form of mockery
I don't get why everyone is so intent on preserving the image of groups they revile just so they don't have to see it
rigid crescent
Wha
empty sand
Whats the difference between drive4vr gold and free? I dont see any feature differences
sour sandal
no it belongs in a museum of history so we never have a repeat of... oh wait
vocal shard
sour sandal
again i re-iterate the can of worms aspect of such a discussion , but regardless those avatars technically are against the end user agreement, so whatev i guess
whole lodge
π
fallow kite
I need that now, thanks! x3
vocal shard
where are th socks
vocal shard
howd it go in public
lost agate
So i just read on the oculus dev doc page that pollycount is a thing... but only above 2 million pollys. And drawcalls are importend too... if they go above 1000 draw calls. So why is there lagg in vrc? as i doubt 20 people are gonna have a total of 2mil+ pollys and over 1K draw calls. Anyone have an idea on this?
safe prism
imagine a model with 20k tris, in a room with 40 people, that's 40 * 20k, or 800k tris to deal with
and that's just models. worlds have a lot of them too. it's well above 2 mil for one 40 person pug, i bet.
leaden kiln
materials are also one draw call per material. One of the premade models that I downloaded, that a lot of people are using, had 37 materials on it.
safe prism
draw calls are more complicated to count with particles and lighting and many materials and shaders to deal with
rigid crescent
it went fine
got some compliments
i've worn it out to eat with friends, at a con with friends, and at regionals for a card game i play
vocal shard
" i got an erection"
rigid crescent
We used it as our team shirt at regionals lol
frank lichen
rigid crescent
rigid crescent
The lowest quality
sly mango
fiery rune
could i get a vr to work anyway on a laptop that doesnt meet the minimums?
soft skiff
@fiery rune what's the laptop specs?
soft skiff
that's scraping the bottom of the barrel, it won't be a solid experience
fiery rune
i can only afford either a vr or a better laptop and i cant get one without missing out on the other
this sucks
soft skiff
what headset were you looking at?
soft skiff
Oculus is going to need decent specs simply due to the amount of USB bandwidth required
WMR is about as low as you can go, but I don't think VRChat is going to work well on it given your specs
soft skiff
We have a HP WMR headset in the shop and VRChat works fine on our lowest spec rig, but it's still light years ahead of your laptop.
fiery rune
i dont care if its a bit laggy
soft skiff
you might not care, but your inner ear will
fiery rune
hh
fiery rune
h
rigid crescent
Muh altcoins
soft skiff
the reference cards will hit the shelf 3 months later, and go right out of stock
A year from then, the first aftermarket spec GPUs will start to come out, along with the new 'ti' spec reference cards.
None of which will be in stock.
topaz notch
Apparently we aren't getting 11XX
soft skiff
I have two finished rigs in the shop waiting for GPUs and I'm seriously considering building custom cooling loops simply because the only 1080 series cards I can find in stock are all waterblock cards.
topaz notch
We getting 20XX
fickle mirage
Hello, I would just like to ask something.
I worked hard on an avatar and gave it animations for about 3 weeks
I tried testing it on this world with a mirror and suddenly someone was using the same avatar as I have...
Is that something to be reported on?
rigid crescent
Yeah if there's a video
vocal shard
Send you output log to moderation@vrchat.com including the time that it happened.
!outputlog
Make sure you didnt restart the game when they appeared because that resets the log.
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
fickle mirage
!outputlog
floral flaxBOT
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
fickle mirage
Thank you. I still haven't closed the game and I was only able to take a screenshot of the person using my model.
It's kind of demotivating to see people do this.
leaden kiln
If you detatch the id and reupload it, they lose access to it
vocal shard
Oh, screenshots are better than outputlog. Make sure to include that as well.
fickle mirage
That's relieving to hear. I'll go detach the ID immediately. I'll make sure to email them right now. Thanks again guys.
fickle mirage
They wouldn't be able to obtain the file and edit it themselves, right?
modern sand
not if you upload something else in place of that ID
fickle mirage
I see. I just want to be clear if I should only detach the ID of that specific model he stole or should I detach every model I have?
modern sand
Just that one, and if he did steal avatars, he won't have access to his account anyway
fickle mirage
Oh alright. I appreciate the advice guys. I'm glad you're here. I'll go do and write an email for now.
subtle prawn
Someone please help. While playing in VR my height won't adjust with the avatar. My knees are still bending while I stand and in standing mode, seated mode just drops me further down. I've tried resetting my height in setup and doing adjustment in the tutorial world
dusk egret
For some reason I'm not able to get into VRChat anymore, when I start the game the loading sign appears as normal but then usually the map loading screen should appear but instead nothing happens and it gets stuck there. Anyone experiencing the same?
it worked just a few hours ago, which is the weird part
already cleaned up everything, did a fresh reinstall even. Still the same issue.
uncut trail
server problem
past pelican
Is there a full version of the piano that plays in the logging in screen?
formal smelt
Who knows about this model?
fiery rune
how do i move the bones and the mesh at the same time?
little relic
@past pelican yes its called "Unable to log in"
frigid roost
im looking for contact to Warhammer 40 000 artists who like to create WH40k inspired worlds. I would love to exchange Ideas.
if you are one or you know somebody... pls send me a message π
fading tendon
mighty plaza
Hey guys :)
south oyster
hiya π
mighty plaza
How are you guys doing?
mighty plaza
I'm good thanks :)
Omw to college in the freezing cold ._.
Where are you guys all from?
south oyster
im from Missouri π
frigid roost
Australia
mighty plaza
That's awesome
real slate
can you change unity build after install?
mighty plaza
I don't think so.
real slate
so a reisntall?
opaque hawk
Dang I lowered my desktop resolution to 720p and now my vr headset runs a lot better
mighty plaza
@opaque hawk Graphics card?
opaque hawk
1050ti
opaque hawk
I5-4460
plush halo
Gonna be getting myself an i7-7700k soon. :3
opaque hawk
Nice
opaque hawk
I built my first computer almost a year ago now. So glad I dodged the price hike on everything
mighty plaza
I just finished building my first computer. i7 8700k overclocked, GTX 1070 overclocked.
plush halo
Noice
I have an i5 that you can't even buy anymore from intel and I can run VRchat better than most my games lol
mighty plaza
I don't know how VRChat works so I couldn't say why.
plush halo
Not complaining... like at all lol
opaque hawk
Vr chat works best on a single core gpu
plush halo
Interesting.
I donwloaded VRChat on steam like 4-5 days ago and already have almost 80+ hours in the game... lol
mighty plaza
Haha I also just downloaded it, but haven't gotten that many hours x_x
I think I just hit 24 last night.
But I also have work and college so it's hard
plush halo
I'm guilty of leaving my game running... when I sleep or go to work...
so that might be why... lol
opaque hawk
When Iβm not home my pc is off
plush halo
I almost never turn mine off... for fear that it won't turn on again.
With how old it all is now.
opaque hawk
I actually have a weird problem where my pc decides to boot on itβs own. It happens two times a week at the same time everytime
plush halo
Your computer is haunted....
lusty venture
forced updates
opaque hawk
Lol
lusty venture
forced updates for that virus
plush halo
^^^
lusty venture
basiclly reinstall windows
whipe the drive
and if there are more drives
whipe all of them
plush halo
I will be doing that when I get my SSD...
opaque hawk
Itβs the motherboard thatβs doing it
plush halo
"Are they not home? Yes? POWER ON!"
plush halo
Lol
opaque hawk
Whenever Iβm out of town I just flip the switch on the back.
lusty venture
the only thing my pc does it letting some power thru
so when i hit the kb accdetly the keyboards RBG's go on
but nothing else
plush halo
I can just imagine you getting home and you hear your computer is on all like "Who in the..."
mighty plaza
I am trying to set my PC up to turn on when I press a button on my phone so I don't have to wait the 4 seconds when I press the button π
lusty venture
even tho plugged in
mighty plaza
So I can press it when I walk through the front door.
lusty venture
or have win 10
orchid relic
Went down a rabbit hole of shaders tonight O_o https://imgur.com/fgmFY8C
lusty venture
gets home
goes into room
turns on pc
throws stuff where it should be
goes toilet
pc done starting up
plush halo
My pc as well...
mighty plaza
But why?
vocal shard
Is it possible to get banned over a name in vr chat because my name is Thot Patrol