potent galleon
I don’t own a vr set and when people said you use finger positions to do facial expressions I thought they meant you threw up actual gang signs and shit to trigger them
#vrchat-general-2
wraith forge
Hey uhhh. I have a question
Is anyone getting a weird thing where maps are just taking forever and a half to load? Even if you've been there before? Cuz I'm getting that.
hasty wedge
did u close and reopen?
wraith forge
I already tried deleting my cache and even reinstalled the game
I've had it for a few days now
hasty wedge
🤔
wraith forge
and a few of my friends are having a similar problem
sometimes the map even loads completely and it just sends me back to the hub
I was at the pug literally an hour ago and now I can't load it at all (also all my friends are in non-joinable maps atm and it's sad ;-;)
forest salmon
ehhm short question, where do you report hackers again?
vague slate
!cleancache
floral flaxBOT
You can clean cache by deleting the vrchat folder within C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
viscid path
I have a question a little technical / DIY: I'm thinking about buying a new phone, especially for space and to have the opportunity to use the VR (I do not have a heads motion detector right now) and I wanted to know if there is possibility to have VR Chat with a 'good' phone and a VR headset. Even while running the game on the PC but displaying it on the phone.
I would really like to experience VR on this game but I'm rally hot about letting go 900 € right now x)
fiery rune
can someone help me with a model password
tawny shadow
is there an art gallery map ? what is it called?
nvm found it
online in an unreachable world , what does this imply?
jaunty apex
Does an audio source still work without a ONSP audio soruce?
fiery rune
yeh
mortal pecan
guys what does it mean when you import VRSDK into unity and unity crashes after trying to get the" small assets " in?
mighty cave
hello
sonic crest
It means... That it's crashed
dense moat
really
next marsh
Fake
dense moat
the servers went down yesterday
and today again
get
jiofepsdjhnfioasjnf
like jesus christ
trim oracle
so it isnt just me
trim oracle
right as i make a new wow mounted hoppou too 😦
dense moat
doesnt matter
like
whats wrong with the servers
every day
its something
and when they fix something they break something else
like the audio sources from characters
completely broken
vocal shard
Servers are down, yaes.
dense moat
a small team yeah
late patrol
Force Loggedout
dull ingot
servers down?
vocal shard
Servers are down, yes.
trim oracle
wher do they get revenue from though
dense moat
and VrChats servers cant even handle around 5k that are online all the time
trim oracle
free game and all
late patrol
Oh Great Mongo Error
nimble plank
m0ng0err0r
trim oracle
good point
vocal shard
seriously
manic ginkgo
oh ok
trim oracle
ok now they have no excuse
manic ginkgo
I guess I'll go make some food then
dense moat
and thats only from htc vive
trim oracle
i imagine the other VR comapnies did too
dense moat
let me check
worthy pollen
thahts why vive is better then oculus
dull ingot
if i buy vr things what should i buy
worthy pollen
if you want full tracking go vive
dull ingot
same for me drakeos
uncut trail
Servers messing up ?
dull ingot
no im probably not going to buy full tracking
vocal shard
Servers are down.
trim oracle
if you gonna do seated play and want slightly beter ahnd controls do oculus
otherwise vive
dull ingot
i dont mind standing
scenic tulip
so nothing working right now?
worthy pollen
vive full body tracking
vocal shard
Aye
vocal shard
right now oculus has better controlers, and is cheeper, i'd say get the oculus and sell it on when the knuckles come out unless you are planning on getting full body tracking.
.-. You don't "need" full body tracking for VRChat.
manic ginkgo
you don't "need" vr for vrchat
trim oracle
servers down
vocal shard
i see
dense moat
again
worthy pollen
you dont need anything at all
minor anchor
AAAAAAAAA
fringe lichen
when do servers come back up?
dense moat
idk
vocal shard
No idea.
dense moat
when will the servers stop going back down thats the real question
gaunt granite
True
worthy pollen
when they move out from uganda
flint gulch
O that explains it
worthy pollen
server
vocal shard
Sudden influx and stuff.
fringe lichen
when did the servers first go down?
small radish
-When they expand server size.
-When player decreases.
-When game is optimized.
vocal shard
Afaik, it started going down a lot when the 5-10K was breached.
fringe lichen
which was?
vocal shard
Around december?
fringe lichen
oH
ember frigate
Server down still?
vocal shard
Or end of november, not sure.
worthy pollen
server should be better now sins the knuckles meme starts to die
mossy zinc
ye
fringe lichen
wOaH
ember frigate
How long do the server go down when this happens?
dense moat
hours
brave coral
Does anyone know how to make hats in blender... i am new to this
fringe lichen
fucc
uncut trail
Whats going on lol
dense moat
they havent even announced anything
vocal shard
There's the #server-status though
uncut trail
I was with my friends and get kicked off
vocal shard
They posted there.
dull ingot
do you get carsick with vr?
dull ingot
why?
vocal shard
I get that when I stay still but my character moves its head.
devout island
Carsick lul
worthy pollen
XD
vocal shard
isnt carsickness motion sickness anyway.
dense moat
not in the same degree
fringe lichen
i AlWaYs GeT cAr SiCk In VrChAt
worthy pollen
sick of people in vr XD
dull ingot
Motion sickness is a condition in which a disagreement exists between visually perceived movement and the vestibular system's sense of movement. Depending on the cause, it can also be referred to as seasickness, car sickness, simulation sickness or airsickness.
i was right noobs
almost
rain isle
!online
brave coral
Sorry for being a noob,, but is their any videos that i can learn more about blender
uncut trail
PLEASE STOP teleporting my character 😦
worthy pollen
sea sick in vr xD
dull ingot
tag me when servers are up pls
craggy verge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P0ljQ6hU0A&t=4901s @brave coral
lost nimbus
Uploading seems to work
blissful sable
uploading gives me mongoerrors. Frigging MongoDB.
vocal shard
Uploading doesn't work
uncut trail
i get motion sickness time 2 time
lost nimbus
Relog into VRCSDK
uncut trail
ffs keep getting teleported to the hub
blissful sable
well, it won't let me
brave coral
thanks potato
lost nimbus
strange
floral flaxBOT
There are 4150 users in VRChat currently
uncut trail
OMFG lkol
blissful sable
rip
vocal shard
Servers are down, please check #server-status, Rena.
uncut trail
Yep rip
vocal shard
is the game broken? haha @proper questmil x3
frosty sorrel
didnt the same thing happen yesterday?
vocal shard
haha i was just thinking i got banned
vocal shard
You can search friends though
tepid raptor
oh... rly?
vocal shard
Socials -> Top right
tepid raptor
how did I miss that
vocal shard
Same thing for worlds.
tepid raptor
k, need an ava one then
vocal shard
im sure it will be fixed soon tho so no worries here 😄
uncut trail
yep
vocal shard
I want that ava one too as well--
How many avatars do you have if you have to search for them lol
Mostly a category for them though so I can separate them all.
lean mortar
rip server
tepid raptor
ikr
lean mortar
like vrchat servers
tepid raptor
At least would like to move them around
vocal shard
Doesn't expanding the avatar list help though?
vocal shard
Servers are having problems, please check #server-status.
It doesn't help if you have over a hundred avatars--
lean mortar
jeez so many avatars dam
buoyant prism
why this always happens on the weekends
vocal shard
Probably because more people.
ember frigate
Can only play on weekends sadness
uncut trail
Anyone know place that has eva and special animation effects ?
lucid cave
@ember frigate that will be fixed, don't worry x)
uncut trail
*Avavatar
ember frigate
I do hope so Yunakochan
uncut trail
All vr chat is down
cedar iris
The one time I wanna play and possibly find Sp00n, Mini Ladd and The Doo0, it doesn't work ;-;
ember frigate
Uh. Servers are down right now
cedar iris
lol, no
lucid cave
@ember frigate I know
brave coral
well hold on to your butts 😃
cedar iris
i just love their content @lucid cave
ember frigate
Oh then how many hours did it take for them to fix it yesterday?
ember frigate
Will be helpful to decidd to sleep now or not
lucid cave
but it depends i guess
ember frigate
2 hrs? Wew okidoki thanks for the info
Time to sleep and log in tomorrow
Take care
vocal shard
cedar iris
I even tried friending them so I could see if they're online XD
old socket
connection issues?
vocal shard
Yes.
cedar iris
yep
fringe lichen
servers still down?
midnight sage
i guess i cant login on site and in the game
vocal shard
Yes, Pickle.
why, i need to work on the weekends, and when i come back -> vrc servers down gg
uncut trail
SDK works ?
vocal shard
no
torn apex
They get a few million from HTC vive and cant keep the servers running for one day
vocal shard
😛
shell nest
@torn apex legit not a single day has gone by without issue
mental verge
^
torn apex
Well most other EA games ive been at can have their servers running for days or weeks
mental verge
"Complains about free game"
torn apex
without serious problems
vocal shard
Big company vs VRC team.
torn apex
@mental verge well this free game got a big investment from HTC
shell nest
@mental verge complains about free game that inorder to fully experience requires a $1000 purchase
uncut trail
yes afraid so sleep time for me
torn apex
400€ cough @shell nest
mental verge
Look at these complainers :^)
vocal shard
400€ ? if you want to be cheap sure
shell nest
@torn apex $910 CAD
torn apex
CAD?`
shell nest
Canadian
ebon oriole
Game would be nice if they'd iron out all the bugs.
vocal shard
4 mil. stop defending
Tbh the servers work like 90% of the time though so I wouldn't complain so much
torn apex
@vocal shard not every free game has millions in investments either
shell nest
and i refuse to go rift cause it doesn't support full body (don't suggest kinetc cause that is trash full body when you turn around or sideways)
torn apex
And tbh many other free games I play work fine online
iron lotus
I like how people think 4mill is a lot in game development lol
vocal shard
for this game it is
torn apex
@shell nest you can do full body on rift with kinnect
iron lotus
No it isn't
shell nest
@vocal shard 90% of the time would be nice but it's hardly true
iron lotus
Lol...
torn apex
and you dont need to pay 200€ for two sensors
shell nest
@torn apex Kinect is trash full body
clear hinge
Lol
torn apex
not where ive seen it
clear hinge
Servers down?
torn apex
I wont pay 200€ for two sensors either
vocal shard
Yes, Rhos
clear hinge
Rip
torn apex
rift will likely get sensors too
ebon oriole
4 Mill is enough to start getting you licenses to use professional grade tools.
mental verge
I use google cardboard
clear hinge
I got sensors
torn apex
it can already track multiple objects
clear hinge
I'm using oculus
ebon oriole
Instead of lidl unity
torn apex
but the other objects needs to use oculus controllers as pucks
ivory lantern
You have to remember that VRchat is basically a Unity sandbox. A lot of games with millions worth of investments involve making new models, assets, sounds and level design from scratch whereas VRchat is basically using Unity assets.
torn apex
right now
iron lotus
Anyone who thinks they're rolling in dough is sorely mistaken.. They have gotten 5.2mil public funds on record.. That's not much for a game that's been in development since.... 2015?
shell nest
Kinect doesn't know when you're doing when you're sideways or backwards so it's 100% trash
torn apex
so in the future oculus might make infrared trackers
winged widget
If you have an old Xbox 360 Kinect you can use it as a full body motion tracker. Look it up on YouTube!
torn apex
@shell nest is just a vive fanboy with lots of cash that cries because we payed less for same experience
vocal shard
I’ve tried that kygeux
shell nest
@ivory lantern you have to remember that VRChat is outdated unity also all rooms are based on Peer to Peer connections so server issues shouldn't be creeping up like this daily
clear hinge
Vrchat has about 1 year of server and development left before funds run dry.
torn apex
When I tried the vive I was dissapointed tbh
clear hinge
As per dev
weak frost
vive controller is shit
torn apex
the screendoor was just as visible as my GearVR
frosty sorrel
arguing with people on the internet
clever osprey
dont use a 360 kinect
vocal shard
the guy who is offering the application to hook up your Kinect he’s trying to charge you like, an extra €20 or something
frosty sorrel
youve never met before
vocal shard
and it might not even work
torn apex
Im going to get a kinnect for free
shell nest
@torn apex actually I don't have any headset yet, cause I'm broke and on canadian disability I just know from user reviews not fangirling sorry
clear hinge
vocal shard
have fun with no good fbt
clear hinge
vocal shard
agreed
torn apex
if I can get kinnect for 10€ Im going to try
vocal shard
I didn’t pay for it, there was a trial
torn apex
and they do sell it for that
mental verge
weak frost
i think the only thing vive has on the others is the cameras and maybe more screen real estate
torn apex
Or I will wait for rift to release cheaper pucks than vive xD
vocal shard
im getting vive with feet trackjing when my taxes comes in XD
clear hinge
vocal shard
and it really isn’t that amazing compared to headsets themselves
mystic oasis
I've tried the Kinect for tracking, it is absolutely crap
frosty sorrel
if i could have vive headset with rift controllers👍
nocturne stream
clear hinge
torn apex
I dont need leg tracking yet
clever osprey
if you're going to get a kinect, at least get the XBox One kinect
vocal shard
Guys
queen rapids
why is the server down?
torn apex
Im having extreme fun with hand + head tracking
queen rapids
why
winged widget
I figured, but it's a cool thing that it somewhat works. I'd rather get the trackers but I figured I'd throw that out there that it could possible work? Haha. Haven't tested it myself so I dunno!
shell nest
vive sensors are far superior using Laser tracking vs IR LED tracking
torn apex
I wont pay 200€ just to get two useless sensors to make my legs move in a broken social app xD
small radish
@queen rapids server needs a break and takes a little nap every day.
mental verge
Go make some wacky models my dude
queen rapids
oh
shell nest
@torn apex I want the full body not just for moving my legs, for dancing in the app and for those special private rooms that i know about
torn apex
Either way oculus already have a system to track more objects... That works. They just need to make custom trackers or otherwise I would need to buy 2 new oculus controllers for my legs but that is stil cheaper than vive pucks xD
Im not that interested in dancing
I like to talk around with friend in the penthouse apartment I made
keen chasm
Special private rooms: you're not invited!
shell nest
Oculus tracking is decades outdated IR LED tracking
torn apex
And I have enough fun with my hands
turbid agate
Leg trackers should just use the same principle the controllers use for tracking but simpler
torn apex
oculus tracking works just fine
high rivet
Are the servers down again?
torn apex
I have no issues with my oculus tracking
I mounted 3 sensors like the vive sensors on the wall
that solves most the tracking problems
turbid agate
I mean, a kinect works so applying 2 high definition sensors to legs and hip should work and be cheap.
torn apex
makes it comparable to vive tracking
shell nest
it's still outdated and lesser in quality
turbid agate
Oculus would sell alot due to VRChat i bet lol.
weak frost
yeah oculus screen is sexy
slate heart
yes
torn apex
on the vive you cant do gestures with your fingers without using knuckles
another gimmic you need to pay extra
frosty sorrel
why are we arguing
torn apex
vive is just cash cash cash
brave coral
I can't wait any longer. Something went wrong. I'm gonna' get the power back on : chat.... Me : You can't just stroll down the road, you know?
vocal shard
Oculus is 200€ cheaper too
turbid agate
Oculus makes the headpat feel like im being punched in the face lol
shell nest
i'm going for the Vive Pro when I get a sir to buy me it 😏
torn apex
oculus provies so much more for less price
the controllers also track 3 of your fingers independently
high rivet
Guys are the servers down?
torn apex
which is very nice for VRChat
shell nest
oh really 3 whole fingers?
turbid agate
Check sever status
green furnace
Is it wrong that I'm trying to save up to buy a pc and vive just so I can pet loli's in VR
shell nest
Oh my god
frosty sorrel
@green furnace no
shell nest
a whole 3 fingers out of 5 per hand
torn apex
That is enough to do most gestures
weary torrent
makes a big difference to immersion though
torn apex
I dont want to pay shiton of stuff on gimmics on the vive
clear hinge
torn apex
when the oculus slightly have it all already
And some companies support both headsets
like the sensation vest
that also supports oculus
clear hinge
clear hinge
clear hinge
shell nest
tbh there would be more gestures if they would open up the SDK to allow independant guestures per hand
green furnace
did oculus announce anything at CES, i know vive has the pro coming out
weary torrent
only reason I'd go for vive over rift is the hip/leg tracking honestly
coral vessel
buying gf
torn apex
oculus is waiting
green furnace
for
torn apex
because they want to make it perfect
green furnace
i see
toxic cloak
Ey
green furnace
im also buying gf
shell nest
@coral vessel how much you buying me for?
toxic cloak
im hearing rumors that particle effects are being disabled
vocal shard
biggest fanboy ever :x
toxic cloak
is true y/n
coral vessel
20k
clear hinge
Lol who's moderating this chat and deleting shit.
candid marsh
Oculus is near half the price of the vive
and comes with the finger controllers
That's all I need to know
shell nest
@coral vessel 20k hmm and occasional gifts?
candid marsh
fucking australian HTC store is a scam
winged widget
Wait for the Vive Pro if you're considering a VR Headset.
vocal shard
Rumours are rumours until there's an annoucement for it or a pinned message.
torn apex
When I see it Ive met a shiton of vive users that want to shit on oculus users and often they use stupid broken arguments
green furnace
i only want full body tracking so i can practice dancing inVR
coral vessel
ill buy you a whip
candid marsh
Oh, wait for the even more expensive shill
shell nest
😍 sold bby i'm your gf now
torn apex
just because the vive "costs more"
weary torrent
it's oculus' simplicity that makes it cheaper though. IR tracking may be old, but its a proven method
brave coral
The Mongo errr strikes again
coral vessel
OOF YES
torn apex
its like saying apple is the best brand because their products are more pricy
uncut trail
It be nice to disabled particles to stop spammers from grieifing
weary torrent
the word that I see consistently referring to the Vive is "over-engineered"
green furnace
congratulations @coral vessel
torn apex
the vive vs oculus for me is starting to feel like apple VS windows
coral vessel
thanks
vocal shard
youre like the only one whos talking about vive vs oculus atm
and its getting annoying
candid marsh
Um
crystal burrow
candid marsh
I can see like four people involved in that conversation in the last page of chat
Get your fucking eyes checked lmao
winged widget
Guys screw the Vive and Oculus. GET THE PSVR xD
honest thistle
Save your moneys and start petting random kids on the street
coral vessel
LOL
mental verge
Google cardboard
vocal shard
youre not writing at all
hasty wedge
ur saying it liek i dont already lucy 
vocal shard
silently reading all of it
coral vessel
screw the psvr glue ur phone and a fan to your face and ur good to go
torn apex
oculus and vive owners should fight togheter to destroy cardboard VR
honest thistle
torn apex
it ruins the VR market
green furnace
i wish i had 20k right now id buy a pc and vr and have leftovers for the lolipops I can give out heh
torn apex
with shit VR
brave coral
Lucyfur.... That why we have the VRPD
candid marsh
Last message less than two minutes ago
weary torrent
cardboard VR is the reason I even got an oculus
clear hinge
candid marsh
How can you be this wrong
torn apex
Well actually yes
weary torrent
its an excellent cheap way into poor-man's VR
torn apex
Gear VR is the reason I bought Oculus Rift
clear hinge
candid marsh
I'd risk windows MR but like
torn apex
but its not normal cardboard
honest thistle
mental verge
frigid moon
screw cardboard vr and pirate it tru a 3d printer
mental verge
candid marsh
WMR is only worth the price on amazon
timber escarp
I can’t log in
brave coral
take the gold i think
candid marsh
and Australia doesn't have a good amazon store
honest thistle
winged widget
I hear Nintendo is coming out with a great cardboard piece you can put together for a VR Headset. OInly $100 for cardboard though. + Shipping and handling that is. xD
weary torrent
I'll give you that, those cheap no-name phone VR headsets often have garbage headtracking
torn apex
Isnt many of the Windows Mixed Reality headsets using LCD?
frigid moon
wait its fucking 100 bucks?
torn apex
That must look horrible in VR compared to OLED
frigid moon
hot damn
candid marsh
I'm still gathering info on the WMR headsets
frigid moon
i wonder how many are going to buy that tbh
candid marsh
Not many people I know seem to have them
but general consensus right now is like
'eh it works'
torn apex
Some of the WMR headsets Ive seen are using LCD
weary torrent
they got good reviews... at least the... ASUS one I believe
candid marsh
I mean
brave coral
The problems with new groundbreaking games their going to be set backs
candid marsh
It drags the price point down below consoles
What was the last amazon sale, $200 flat?
torn apex
Well lets talk about shitcoin instead dragging GPU prices f*cking high
torn apex
I hope shitcoin will die soon
candid marsh
And I have all of these fresh wojacks
weak frost
so glad i bought my 1060 before shitcoin jacked it all up
torn apex
Shitcoin fails = market will explode with cheap GPU's
weary torrent
I cant see bitcoin dying anytime soon honestly
clear hinge
I got a GTX 970
candid marsh
It's never going to die, dude
winged widget
Same
frigid moon
god i hope it explodes soon
torn apex
Shitcoin should be illegalized in America nad Europe like in chine
frigid moon
really need a new gpu
torn apex
it wastes energy
weary torrent
and ASIC's mine bitcoin, altcoins are still strong and those are what GPU's are doing
candid marsh
Something like 80% of it is currently held by megacorps
And yeah
People mine ETH now
honest thistle
I've been eyeing a GPU and last week it went up by $20....
torn apex
Nvidia should make a custom bitcoin miner GPU so it wont affect the gaming ones
candid marsh
But it's apparently a lot cheaper to mine
frigid moon
plus shitty viruses getting into your pc runing it w weird software or fucked sites
frigid moon
nah
torn apex
Im wondering that too
honest thistle
torn apex
I need to test my map
clear hinge
Servers good
vocal shard
No announcements yet.
dense moat
ehudisaofjiusadjfuiosdajfsudiafjmsa
brave coral
Their most likely going back into the source code to search for the problem
torn apex
Servers stil nonexistant
shell nest
I'm out (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
hasty wedge
im right here tyvm
lusty venture
fricking servers
im still waiting so i can upload my map
candid marsh
anyways, crypto is here to stay
honest thistle
candid marsh
That is never going to change
lusty venture
i think playing the game from where the map is from is what im gonna do now
hushed valley
the game back?
torn apex
Nop
hushed valley
😦
shell nest
the occulus rift, that's right you can't clap your hands in vr apps
honest thistle
Oculus is $600 AUD
frigid moon
someone mentioned making a custom gpu for mining, tbh that would be a really good idea plus its untapped market i guess
brave coral
Well the russians heck the game
lusty venture
350€ in germany ebloly
honest thistle
thats USD pricing
hasty wedge
free shipping = shipping price included on the product 
uncut trail
How;s streamers still on VRchat ?
torn apex
The sensors are mounted on my walls with 1€ CCTV mounts
steady violet
They logged in before servers went down.
brave coral
what the difference between HCT and Oculus
candid marsh
oculus only has cheap gimmicks
torn apex
and oculus will likely come with similar gimmics cheaper
brave coral
how much
torn apex
their display already has less screendoor effect if you leave out the pro in comparison
slate heart
htc is only worth it if youre planning on getting full body tracking at some point
steady violet
Yeah, I'd only buy a Vive if it was like 50 dollars cheaper than Rift tbh.
torn apex
oculus costs 400€ VS 600€
brave coral
USP
honest thistle
Oculus rift comes with robot recall 
candid marsh
I'm not about to drop a thousand dollars on a VR headset
Like, even the oculus pricetag is hard to chew
torn apex
I was included Quill, Luckys Tale, Medium, Robot Recall
weary torrent
thats what held me back
torn apex
All of them costs cash
steady violet
Problem with Vive is that it isn't even full body tracking. It is just for lower waist and legs instead of 3D camera.
torn apex
generally
vale hedge
candid marsh
pat pat pat pat pat pat pat
torn apex
Quill is a more professional 3D painter
candid marsh
grab awoo ears
torn apex
and better than Google brush in my opinion
brave coral
$600 for US ?
weary torrent
I traded my 4k screen straight across for an oculus and I love it, but I'd still find it hard to choke down $500 CAD to buy an oculus
torn apex
Ive tried both vive and oculus
oculus is far by better in my personal opinion
the only thing I see better on vive is slightly better tracking
gritty pulsar
can someone send me the sdk? i cannot download it on the website, cant login
hushed valley
im the unic when play in without oculus?
torn apex
but if you mount your oculus sensors properly you dont really notice difference in tracking
weary torrent
I've never had an issue with my rift tracking though, only in VRC does it seem to bug out, everything else, especially in oculus store, works perfectly
brave coral
i am droping $800 to $600 for a graphics card
candid marsh
Got all my clothy bits sorted on my model
old sky
I mean, they both work and do their work well. So just go for whatever suits you better
fringe geyser
Yeah I've got three sensors mounted up pointed down and it's no real difference from the vive
weary torrent
do it: people will twerk
brave coral
I may go finish reading my book
candid marsh
dude adding dynamics to a root bone is the funniest thing in the world
old sky
I have the Vive with just two sensors and a cheap 360 kinect with an emulation driver for tracking my lower body - and it works great. So I'm satisfied
candid marsh
I love the way eyes roll around in their sockets
It's absolutely horrifying to look at
weary torrent
can you make a demo video dragon?
old sky
But the rift is also a solid choice
hasty wedge
how much did u pay for the adapter opalium?
hasty wedge
WOT
old sky
Lemme check
brave coral
what cheaper HCT or Oculus in us dollars
candid marsh
Oculus
weary torrent
yeah I just bought a kinect adapter for $12 CAD
candid marsh
By a rather large margin
brave coral
how much
steady violet
I just wish the Vive wasn't so expensive, if it was like 50 dollars cheaper than Rift I'd definetly get it. But it is 920 USD here unless I get it from Amazon or Ebay.
candid marsh
$450 USD to australia. not sure how much local
weary torrent
I put it in my cable box until I get a new GPU but yeah they're not expensive at all
old sky
Yup. $11 for the power adapter and like 25 for the kinect
hasty wedge
wew
brave coral
THE FUCK...920
steady violet
Well I would only buy it if it was. Because in my situation the RIft is superior in most ways.
old sky
And it works fairly well considering it's an improvised solution so I'm satisfied
weary torrent
IR might be old tech, but it's proven and refined
weary torrent
and cheap af haha
fringe lichen
is the server back up?
old sky
Sure thing smug
candid marsh
If the knuckle controllers I've seen shown off were base
I'd buy the Vive
Those things are slick
brave coral
I am already droping over 500 dollars on a new GC
weary torrent
thats what people were saying: vive pro needs knuckles in box
steady violet
The Rift is already 620 USD as is. I won't pay much more than that.
steady violet
Not in Norway.
weary torrent
oh. haha
hasty wedge
499$ cad? isnt that like 35 usd
hushed valley
....
hasty wedge
candid marsh
the knuckles controllers are Vive only, aren't they?
old sky
Yeah. In Europe it's usually more expensive
weary torrent
less, you'd get more with Monopoly money @hasty wedge 😛
hasty wedge
o7
brave coral
500 plus 800 between 600 somewhere in the 1,000s the most i spended on a game befores
vocal shard
welp RIP the servers
weary dome
^^
steady violet
I am getting a 200 USD mixed reality which is just a tiny bit worse than Rift, then I am probably upgrading to Rift a few years after.
weary torrent
some MR headsets have a higher res than rift/vive dont they?
steady violet
A tiny bit worse than Rift with the exception of tracking.
Yeah more resolution but LCD instead of OLED.
brave coral
which not going to break on me
steady violet
I am just getting MR before moving onto Rift when I have more money.
candid marsh
MR headsets are also without external sensors, are they not?
weary torrent
from what I heard, yeah
old sky
I heard MR are not very stable atm
weary torrent
a fast enough LCD shouldn't be an issue though, only problem I really see is the blacklevels
candid marsh
So you have no tracking outside your field of vision
steady violet
Yeah, so to get tracking like Rift your controllers need to be in front of or to the side of headsets,
Not behind.
candid marsh
That's a pretty serious restriction tbh
weak frost
MR is bad, just get rift
steady violet
But that isn't a problem as you generally look at the same direction as your controllers anyway.
weak frost
its half price for a reason
steady violet
for 1/3 the price it is great.
weary torrent
@candid marsh apparently they work pretty well even outside the FOV
old sky
That's a pretty big flaw, but the price is accordingly
candid marsh
I mean out of sight of the headset, rather
steady violet
Yeah for 1/3 of the price it is worth it if you aren't getting a Rift or Vive soon.
weary torrent
yeah, I know what you meant
old sky
I mean, it's designed for different usages, though
steady violet
But I am still getting a Rift though. But MR first.
candid marsh
It's entry level
weak frost
😐
candid marsh
Which I think is something the market definitely needs
weak frost
its such a waste of time, MR
vocal shard
Are servers still dying?
wraith barn
VRchat down atm?
weak frost
yes
weary torrent
the reviews I saw said MR tracked pretty well outside the view of the headset though, and they were expecting tracking to die there as well
old sky
Yup. Login is down
vocal shard
Fuck
candid marsh
It's just enough to get people going "Woah, THIS is what VR feels like"
wraith barn
ah, alright
weak frost
i guess
candid marsh
Without being more expensive than almost any other gaming hardware
weak frost
i guess one thing MR does well is run on shitty hardware
weary torrent
yeah, in all honesty I was all about the pimax for its huge FOV, but since getting my Rift, I noticed the FOV doesnt bother me nearly as much as I thought
weak frost
MR supports low res mode basically
old sky
Yeah, you need a solid GPU if you don't want a laggy experience
candid marsh
Your mind will get used to it
brave coral
i am going to try to make a top hat wise me luck
candid marsh
same as wearing glasses
opaque hawk
I just checked my specs and yeah my pc can run mixed reality
clear hinge
:rage:
old sky
MR is a cheaper, weaker solution. Vive and Rift are the higher end stuff
weary torrent
what's the minimum GPU recommended? I had a 1080 but would a 1060/1050 be good enough?
old sky
Yeah, 1060 definitely works
solid hound
I just cancelled my Samsung wmr order😕
steady violet
960 alternative 1050 according to website.
candid marsh
1050, yeah
opaque hawk
I'm just short one spec to use OR and HTCV 😦
candid marsh
But like
old sky
Never tried 9X0 but I suppose 960 can pull off nicely
candid marsh
That's not entirely clear
blazing dune
Are the servers down again?
opaque hawk
Yes servers are down
weary torrent
yeah seems like noones willing to try with a 1050Ti or lesser
blazing dune
Thanks
candid marsh
Because 10 series cards have different architecture that apparently severely reduces the requirements of a VR headset
steady violet
You can still run it at less than 960. But you won't get stable 60fps.
candid marsh
I remember reading a lot about it
weak frost
1060s were so cheap
weary torrent
I did find a single review with the 1050Ti in VR but it was meh
hushed valley
#oculusdiscussion
old sky
But can it run Crysis 🤔
vocal shard
weak frost
before the coinpoclypse
candid marsh
How much does a 1060 cost nowadays
old sky
Too much
old sky
Miners are wrecking havoc in the market
candid marsh
That doesn't seem too unreasonable
weary torrent
so practically free for you americans LEL
steady violet
504 USD here.
weak frost
yeah
candid marsh
Wait
weak frost
shit that sucks
candid marsh
seriously?
opaque hawk
I have a 1050ti, but I'm waiting until GDC to see if I can enter a bunch of pc drawings and perhaps walk away winning an epic pc
candid marsh
500 USD on the 1060?
weak frost
i got mine for $200 back in the day
weary torrent
yeah the 1060 3GB is considered bare minimum for mining
weak frost
😦
steady violet
6GB though.
prisma depot
Running on a 960 2GB, get a crash every 2-3 hours but otherwise it's a smooth 45-90 after characters load in.
weary torrent
so those and faster got destroyed
weak frost
there are some 1050s for 190 tho
candid marsh
It's like 200 dollars cheaper in Australia
weary torrent
Radeon 560's go for $450 CAD+
candid marsh
🙏
weak frost
thats good lol
weary torrent
1080 Ti's peaked at just shy of 2000
candid marsh
My country continues to be greatest in the world
old sky
I'm glad I got my card about a year ago
opaque hawk
The 1050ti can also be used for mining, they went up like $80usd in price
steady violet
But because of the taxes we get free healthcare and tons of benefits so not complaining.
weary torrent
yeah, its all about that ROI, when you're paying double MSRP, other cards become more interesting
old sky
I can technically sell my card now for almost double the price I bought it lol
weary torrent
in a 2x MSRP market
steady violet
Sell it now, wait until after the crypto crash, then buy it again.
vocal shard
Ain't Nvidia selling cards for their actual price?
weary torrent
you can get MSRP cards with bundles at Fry's, or from vendors like Dell
steady violet
Compared to before crypto went mainstream.
vocal shard
I remember someone saying that before.
weary torrent
prebuilt gaming PC's are actually cheaper than custom builds atm
because they're strictly limited in what they can sell their hardware for
weary torrent
thats not bad, I'd buy one for that CAD
old sky
I just hope this mining bubble will burst soon. Everyone's suffering here
steady violet
But luckily, since bitcoin price has halved the past few months and because mining is becoming more expensive than electricity bill for high end gaming pc's it seems that it is starting to go out of mainstream.
vocal shard
am I the only one experiencing the mongoError?
old sky
I wonder if Nvidia will push any new cards this year
dull ingot
how long till fix?
vocal shard
am i the only one that cant login in vrchat?
hushed valley
me too
steady violet
old sky
But they're pretty much controlling the market now after Vega's saga. They don't really need to worry
queen nebula
If Volta rumors are true and they offer a 50% increase over Pascal
I might be a little salty
weary torrent
not likely, it's like 20% over current titan
steady violet
Btw, thoughts on what happens to gaming scene if Microsoft pulls through and actually buys Valve, EA and PUBG Corp.?
steady violet
I am just wondering what would happen to Steam.
weary torrent
microsoft wont get Valve
steady violet
GabeN likes them moneyz
weary torrent
it's also his baby 😃
queen nebula
does Vive or Oculus take advantage of split frame rendering with SLI?
steady violet
Imagine "Counter-Strike, Assassins Creed and PUBG now availible on Microsoft Store"
weary torrent
SLI with VR IMO should do one-eye each, rather than split frame haha
idk what that's called where they alternate whole frames
sand urchin
what's the absolute cheapest way to use a vrheadset in vrchat?
queen nebula
Problem is SLI doesn't scale 100 to 100
steady violet
15 Dollar PhoneVR.
queen nebula
its more 100 to 60-80
storm crypt
cardbourd cutout
gleaming island
server lag ?
sand urchin
through what app?
steady violet
Trinus
I am using it while waiting for real VR. Runs surprisingly well for my outdated S6.
More fun than Desktop ever was anyway.
sand urchin
yea thanks 😃
mellow steeple
and, i can't log into VRChat.
steady violet
verbal carbon
mellow steeple
thank you for the redirection
vocal shard
This guy came up to me he's like "if you leave now you ain't gonna be able to come back"
inland anchor
no mee too
vocal shard
I left and now I came get in aha
old sky
@weary torrent That'll create some sync issues between the two eyes
weary torrent
instapuke XD
fluid flume
are the servers down? 😦 SDK says not connection
vocal shard
Servers are having problems, please check #server-status.
old sky
Is advert-chan a bot? Lol
mellow steeple
sometimes, ya' gotta check #server-status before you enter the game. 😛
vocal shard
I will be soon enough.
old sky
Beep boop.
vocal shard
My avatar in game is a robbit though.
steady violet
No, USER:15827. I am not an automated bot.
mellow steeple
Bop bep. i am Wide Sam robot 2.0
bright stone
:D
mellow steeple
beep boop
mellow steeple
i was about to rig a Pingu avatar, but i got lazy.
steady violet
Error on line 1, expected fallback.
old sky
Fair enough
vocal shard
And I'm an advertising robbit, not a killer robbit.
mellow steeple
very fair enough
dull ingot
does anyone know how long it will take to get server back up
untold barn
vocal shard
devout island
No one knows
mellow steeple
we'll never know
languid crown
It's been down for more than an hour already 😄
old sky
It will take exactly 4291 seconds from the moment this message is sent.
steady violet
I was able to log on half an hour ago. But I left.
vocal shard
Iirc, there was a time where it was down for 4 hours.
languid crown
I just imagine the whole server room on fire, and firemen running left and right while we complain when the server goes up again
worthy pollen
what yah think artic we all waiting XD
fluid flume
how come they still haven't fixed their login servers x)
steady violet
It's been 30 minutes, give them time.
hushed valley
lol
fluid flume
it's been 1h30 minutes for me
hushed valley
second time play this gayme
hushed valley
^
mellow steeple
Firemen: 
how many times do i have to tell you!? Don't use a Microwave for Metal!
old sky
@fluid flume Obviously they're just trying to make everyone stop playing.
fluid flume
lol
steady violet
Conspiracy Theory! 😮
old sky
They're just sitting there watching the numbers go down
hushed valley
^
vocal shard
It's because everyone has VRChat as their drug now.
They need to stop people for playing it every few hours.
midnight sail
^^^^^
steady violet
If we can crash the server, the stocks would plummit, therefore we can buy them low, and when we set the server back up we can sell the stocks as the market price increases!
mellow steeple
it may have been an overload of people and ugandans.
old sky
But... but that means we have to do... REAL things 😮
vocal shard
Eat a duck or something
steady violet
No. Can sit in login screen.
mellow steeple
eh. i'm fine with doing real things.
hushed valley
ban knucles.
(Joki)
steady violet
The outernet is too scary.
vocal shard
I want to fried ducks.
languid crown
Real life? No no no NOOOOOOO! GET VRchat back up ASAP!!!!
old sky
I can't even change my avatar irl
fluid flume
(for me anyway)
slate heart
It's up guys
shrewd star
breaking news: I cant login
hushed valley
lo,wat work
vocal shard
@old sky LMAO
languid crown
lemme check
mellow steeple
while all of you freak out about real life, i usually just edit videos and look outside.
fluid flume
RUN FOR IT
vocal shard
Seems like it's working for some now.
fluid flume
BEFORE THEY CRASH AGAIN
radiant hazel
OMG XD
fluid flume
SPAM THAT LOGIN BUTTON
old sky
Hey, it does
hushed valley
NO DISCORD,JUST VRChat
languid crown
OMG IT WORKS
]
steady violet
YES!
vocal shard
Time for the chat to die again, lmao.
old sky
CONSPIRACY FAILED
steady violet
Bye Discord! Hi VR!
hushed valley
😃
vocal shard
Have fun in game.
mellow steeple
Ay, it works
hushed valley
~now im try recording this. bye.~~
vocal shard
And then, there was silence.
vocal shard
Hmn?
safe prism
idk i'm just bored <3
rocky bough
for some reason I cant change my avatar ingame
keen hawk
do the logins work now
charred scroll
is everything dieing again?
mystic spruce
I can log on, seems to be working at leasty
mystic spruce
Too bad 😛
hushed valley
lol
flint fern
servers back?
rocky bough
uhm guys
flint fern
@rocky bough Whatsup
rocky bough
i just logged into the great pug and I think there's a hacker or whatever they're called
i can only see from their perspective and I can't move
flint fern
can u see the name?