#vrchat-general-2
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DM me and i’ll tell you the person who I think made it but that much idk
@vocal shard It's probably based off IP address, perhaps someone in your local area, or even in your own house has an account that broke the rules and got banned
Do admins reply to replies on emails, or will I have to email then all over again? Because now I'm not getting any replies back
oh god
Only know I’ve seen them with it and only that skin with others of likeness
lmao
I use a VPN on Windows 10, so I doubt it.
I'm the only person in my house that plays VRChat.
Well there you go, your VPN exit node is almost certainly shared with other vrchat users
^
by using the VPN you literally share that exit node's IP address with everyone else who uses the same exit node
especially if it's a VPN service marketed towards gamers like WTFast
😂
i couldve sworn there was a bot command for it
Lol
!outputlog
You can find your output log at C:\Users\%Username%\AppData\LocalLow\VRChat named vrchat;outputlog.txt
thanks ruub
then it must be a mistake then
because there is a default vpn software that comes with windows 10 and I use it on all my computers
or should I say, much obliged partner
Snrrk
This is the first time I've even been banned from anything.
besides that one minecraft server when I was like 14
Ah :o
That kid had it coming. I burned his house down.
First time I was banned from something was from iscribble for something I didn't even do
And it took me months to get my account back
I'm literally freaking out right now because I have nothing else to do.
By the time I got it back, my friends didn't use iscribble anymore :c
wat
I can't get on now to tell my VRChat Waifu what is going on.
she's gonna be wondering where I am
she might even think I'm dead.
Rip
I can't believe this is still going on
It will go on for as long as possible until I'm able to see my waifu again
This convo about you being banned has been happening for over an hour
do you know de wey?
Maybe
No
Aids
Stuff, things, a guy got banned and has been talking about it for an hour
lame
maybe make a new account to let her know what's going on?
Lol
Somebody that wasn't me was going around using a lewd avatar in public rooms.
Lol
I logged into my account a few mins ago and it said I was banned for "ban evasion"
lol
At this rate it'll be national news
Pffft

it's already on foxnews
He won't even need a new account everyone will know
lol
Throwing a tantrum in the discord isn’t going to help your case. By what do I know.
wild
He'd have to go into hiding
!online
There are 7456 users in VRChat currently
I have aspergers.
yeah idk none of us can unban ya mate
I don't let things go easily
banned for ban evasion
Neat
LMAO
yeah I was banned for ban evasion even though I was never banned beforehand
banned for ban evasion actually laughed my professor knows im not doing work now
shoot
You said that 3-4 times too
Look man, I have Asperger's too and while I don't let things go easily myself, complaining about it for an hour isn't going to help you
Oh I was just making sure you heard me
we replied
You said you used a VPN Right?
I use the default windows 10 VPN yes, that comes with microsoft store
Theres your answer for that ban of “ban evading” think about it
Oh yeah, there you go
ya like jazz?
Could've solved that issue a while ago
And use logic in your thinking
by googling that
🤔
brilliant.
?

I'm just... Hhhhh. Idk at this point
it still doesn't explain why I see a "ban evasion" message on my account when I never saw a "you are banned" message before, and another thing. The username they sent me via email isn't even one of my users on VRChat.
You’ve told us this like 5 times already
You’re using a VPN the answer is really simple
^
@vocal shard only thing you an do is wait till they check the email
Btw didn't tupper say we can't discuss bans on here
Just use another location for your VPN problem solved 
Yeah, exactly
If you need answers for your ban, please email Moderation@vrchat.com @vocal shard
He already emailed them lol
twice
Yup and tupper even told you to email
We don’t know
Impatience
^
And said we can't discuss bans on discord
Just wait it out
At 1:23
They probably have a ton of emails
my waifu is worried about me
let’s pic a different topic then, jah?
what if I never see my VR girlfriend again
Lucky girl
@coarse crest tupper said the messages in the inbox have been read and it was empty and told him to email
I should've seen that little warning earlier
@vocal shard just get other friend to tell him/her
Having more than one waifu will wreck your laifu
🙏
last night might have been the most fun I’ve had in vr chat honestly
people ask me to be their waifu all the time on this game
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wanna be my waifu
😠
What’d you do jstatham?
WILL YOU BE MY VR WAIFU? NO? ITS OK I ALREADY GOT A FURRY MASTER
:ayaka:
I have a lot of fun in general when playing VRchat... when I'm not switching lobbies and feeling like I'm interrupting conversations just by being there lol
that actaully happened ;-; I said no and someone went "its ok, i already got a furry master anyways"
Oh wow
when is vrchat gonna get a black mirror episode
Found a nice dancing avatar with some good emotes, danced with a lot of strangers, no words, just dancing. It’s weird to connect with people like that, but it’s so addicting to
😄
Hey that’s awesome!
You should be a stripper then
😳
XD
The guy with my good Jojo dancer had his server privatized for some reason
Soon man
Soon
vrchat is amazing
The purple haired naked guy with a lot of effects?
Yep
If so good, I hate that model, it lags the crap out of me.
lol
every time I join in I think I found the best one, then I always get surprised 😄
He’s working on it
same!
Something with the update screwed him up
@marble lintel there all ready been vr episode one with star trek and one were world use mount bike to charge up there device
And the one with the guy who does the beta test of the horror game
I find some super pretty skins, and then I see even prettier ones and awesome ones after that and it makes my jaw drop thinking of how the original uploader could've decimated the avatar
wait moshi are you asking to be my VR waifu? @vale palm
NO :C
just gotta decimate the right parts and dont touch some others @uncut talon
You don’t win them all my dude
Yeah found sgt keroro recently, I’m pretty happy about it lol
true
I am married to my cat
Oh yeah! You've got a point
😳
I always get peeps calling my avatar detailed because the face has super detailed stuff (without high poly even because its all texture xD)
But my leggs are secretly hella decimated and crappy
I tend to delete some parts that are really just useless (Hairshadow for example)
Lol
But because i got that small outline you get from unity shaders and did not turn it off just realllyyy tiny it looks good
we have so much in common Moshi
it brings down the tri count pretty well most of the time when doing that
on that note
@marble lintel @soft skiff Outer limit is better
we both like cats
@uncut talon Inside the face the emotions
I’m flattered
I always remove those
Same
If i want them added i always just do it within unity instead
Just import them over solo and have a special avatar with those
I don't really see a point in using the emotions when I'm using desktop anyway
@sly mango They dont unless you got special trackers for it
Ow well then its really not worth keeping the emotions
hm alright, surprised they don’t have little clip ons with those sets you can’t use lol
Vive users can use the "Vive trackers", Oculus users can use Kinect, though the Kinect doesn't really compare.
It's getting harder and harder to find good mmd avatars now XD; I think I need to wait until there's some new downloads to find
just like how the oculus doesn't compare to the Vive. Thanks
I just took a 40k pol avatar with a tn of textures and bugs
Or if I could, I need to ask Sailor-Rice about making that one mmd model I've mentioned before (I'll post the art of her in random-chat)
Fixed almost all of the bugs (wrists are messed up still
)
And textures is only at 6 or 7 now while the pol is at 20
script kids with hax
👺
I’m not very tech orientated anyway
So it’s out of my reach to
@lean pivot took me 4 avatars and plenty of hours to understand it
Same that i now can make item animations in like 4 minutes because i know what im doing
I respect your dedication to learning 😋
Its a real learn process or trying and failing
just need to know how to find your folder on your pc then you should be able to do it lol
@uncut talon It looks neat
Learn is way get stuff you wanted
oh god
@lean pivot I learned most stuff without tutorials :')
When i started tutorials where or outdated or did not help with the problems i always ran into
Now with the mega tutorial its kinda 'easy'
... Or, better idea, I could put together an MMD model myself. Hmm...
People have somehow figured out how to play sounds even though all sounds are off
I couldn't even turn it off using master volume
That's actually really bad, because avatar audio used to be like that and the only way to shut it off was to block the user.
and then they make the avatar hitbox super small so you can't click it
Even worse is spatialization wasn't enforced so you could earfuck everyone in any size world.
This is why we can’t have nice things 😭
It's why the new forced falloff on avatar audio was introduced.
It also broke shit hardcore.
yeah
well people abuse it most nice thing get reduce or block some how
I just don't understand why people have to do this shit
Alright, we need to have some sort of avatar approval system
The earfucking still happens. I was in a world last night and some invisible person was playing a loud ass baby scream throughout the whole map
@agile vessel that take to long
Sometimes it's ignorance and/or stupidity, sometimes out of some sense of "haha I have the power to fuck with people lolololol" and some people are just dicks.
Like, the entire dick.
An approval system like the way worlds are handled right now would require an insane amount of manpower.
The amount of vetting you’d need to do is impossible with the developers size
@agile vessel the moment they start curating avatar approvals, they will be liable for any copyright infringements that exist in their game
considering I alone uploaded avatars 12+ times today
😲
For avatars, functional restrictions is the best way to go.
It's just a matter of making those restrictions not break other things.
yes, quite a lot of manpower
I can upload a lot of avatars probs
I’m surprised they’ve gotten away without copyright strikes honestly
They are not monitizing on it
Tupper, I don't know if you;re reading this but I just wanna say thank you for being an awesome staff member and helping the community with your tutorial videos. It taught me a lot about modelling and using unity and blender and it felt nice to accomplish something like that!
(it wasn't 12 separate avatars, but I was uploading the same avarat multiple times after making changes)
@sly mango Garry mods does it all the time
Heh makes sense actually
there just do what garry mods does
@sly mango right now they can use the same defense youtube does "we didn't know it was there but we will delete it ASAP"
@sly mango Until an IP owner comes along with a DMCA or some other thing, it's smooth sailing.
Plus they hand all legal responsibility to the uploader. It's in that tickbox in the SDK.
exactly, but if they start manually approving avatars, then they can no longer hand alllegal responsibility to the uploader
That one that you can't upload without ticking that I bet everyone reads once then just click it by reflex afterwards.
Also that. Probably.
@uncut gorge that will kill vrchat
yes
Indeed
which is why people should absolutely not be asking for an avatar approval process to be implemented
^
Well, something needs to be done with the avatars that have giant dicks, nobody wants to see that.
It just won't happen since as Afromana said, the manpower required would be INSANE.
regardless of the “bad” avatars that get through
reason vrchat popluar because upload any avatar and worlds
I’d rather have a system that couldn’t not interfere. I’d rather report them
I...thought it would be funny if the giant avatar penis had that song "look at my enormous penis" barbershop courtet playing
@agile vessel That's why there's probably plans for a 'report inappropriate avatar' button.
remove that feature willl make people go back to garry mods
"I got a sing and I dance
When I glance in my pants
And a-feelin's like a sun shiny day"
tell me that wouldnt be funny to hear a giant penis avatar snging that
worries me that it's gotten so huge on youtube and twitch. All it will take is one person from Disney to see a video of a giant pickle fucking Elsa from Frozen while Ed Edd and Eddy watch and Optimus Prime films it for a huge lawsuit to happen
@uncut gorge garry mods is know different though there big on twich and youtube they have tons IP content
but the original is 4 people as areal barbershop courtet singing this
and this song is MAYBE stuck in my head
Hey @upper cedar do I know you? XD
eye twitching intensifies
insert studio ghibli avatars here
big company dont care people use avatar they only care if you make a full verison of there game with the Ip and try to sale it
@uncut gorge There is already established legal precedent that establishes that a service provider is responsible for the content uploaded and distributed by it's users if there is a IP/copyright violation.
whats the best way to report a player?
vrchat not sale Ip avatar so they wont do anything
Doesn't gmod have an entirely different kind of server setup though? If the servers are user-run then gmod itself has nothing to do with content used on it.
Just like the Transmission torrent client has nothing to do with any data distributed via it.
Reference: The Church of Scientology vs Netcom Online Communcations in the early 90's
Winter what this game will look like fully developed? 🤨
@raven silo That makes absolutely no difference at all.
Scientology would be involved lol
*wonder
We had a user who was posting excerpts of their 'Dianetics' book to USENET, and they took us to court... everybody was sure that there was no way service provider could be held responsible for the content posted to USENET by it's userbase.
We were wrong.
I thought the DCMA appened that thoughand just requires that the service provider complies with requrest to remove the offending content and provide information as necessary on the offending user.
if I'm banned am I not allowed to make a new account while I'm banned? Because I'm not gonna go 14 days without playing vrchat. That's obsurd
@vocal shard stop using the VPN
@vocal shard Maybe dont get banned?
@vocal shard just have wait if you force get back might make banned longer
@uncut gorge That was only one facet of many that happened as a result of that ruling.
@vocal shard you can appeal the ban by emailing moderation@vrchat.com from the email address you registered your account with.
I shouldn't have been banned in the first place. I'm been apart of this community since the DK2 days and I've talked to Pill multiple times, even on Twitter.
That's pretty much all you're going to get here. The admins don't talk about the details of a ban on discord.
I'll just message pill on twitter then.
best not to do that either
He'll probably tell you to do what I just told you, but hey, go for it.
@vocal shard If it makes you feel better I'm an OG day 1 user as well and my original account just vanished one day.
Poor pill, that guys got a lot of weight on his shoulders for this game
It's not even like that.
Goddamn it even top-tier overclocked pc can't run vrchat smoothly. I mean it is easy to have even 25 fps
it doesn't make me feel better. All THAT WORK. I swear to god if I log into my account after the 14 day ban and all my avatars are gone Im going to be pissed.
Yep, I lost all my custom avatars as well.
@sturdy cove Mainly about CPU usage
and bad avatars with a bad room cant be even done by a monster pc
But on the plus side, there isn't some asshole wandering around in-game with my stolen custom avatar.
As far as I know, bans should not result in any loss of avatars, except perhaps if the ban was about some specific avatars.
Avatars should be on your machine still though?
@umbral reef yeah I know 🙁 but it makes me feel kinda bad
I usually have pretty good performance in vrchat.
Maybe I just hang around people with decently performing avatars.
even with my 750, I still get acceptable framerates
I can run atleast 20+ fps in most rooms unless its really bussy (or some badly made rooms)
Or if i run into a mirror
@sturdy cove unity dont really support muitcore use so basic vrchat use 1 core
I can be solo in a room with legit nothing but floor and still lagg looking at mirros
Its insane
Mirrors lag just about anyone
I have problems with mirrors on my i7 6820hk & gtx1080
Mirrors lag? Interesting
not me, it seems
They used to be fine but some changes since the unity 5.6 update fucked them hardcore.
Never had an issue with mirrors lagging
i5, 750, i don't lag
kinda makes me wonder how better specs results in worse performance 🤔
You in vr @rugged brook
oh, you meant in vr
Yea
yeah, i get it now
980 i7
In desktop i legit never went below the capped fps amount so
or not so hard i noticed
But i rarely play on it so xd
VR users are pretty much the reference for if something performs well or not.
Desktop users can get away with 30fps looking okay.
I've not had a problem with mirrors lagging me
vr you rending 3 display input 2 in your vrheadset and mirror display on your pc so your pc trying render 3 thing at once
i'm just not used to thinking about vr as the standard. this is the first game i've played that has highest focus on vr
Now the game is like 30% vr users😅
Before the user surge from the streamers, vrchat used to be a majority VR users.
And things generally were built with that in mind.
I mean 8700k @ 5ghz + 1080Ti @ 2ghz and still mirrors are lagging. We need some severe optimisations and avatar material count restrictions soon-ish ☹
i been seeing more and more vr users the past week
But big odds its because i been jumping in friends+ rooms
that's understandable, building the game in respect to the demographic
@echo grove even less I suppose
Holy balls @sturdy cove you should be getting only a minor perf dip from mirrors with a setup like that
well, one solution for mirrors would be to make it lower res
@rough pulsar I got legit 25 fps in a simple world with like 4 guys around lol
Someone just stoll my avatar in main hub :/ this is why i go to a private spawn
Wow. How badly optimized were their avatars?
@rough pulsar and 45 in Japan town with kinda many people
this is why i optimize my avatars even if people say "ah you're fine"
going pass 20 the world will lag with people
There was a mirror there. And I'm not sure about the avatars
@rough pulsar prob messed up unity and got past the limet and had like 20 materials or something stupid
That stuff can lagg anyone
I'm actually worried if one of my avatars is going to be laggy for some users. I still need to stress test it
I really want to say the avatars made the issue worse.
@rugged brook I been doing that mainly just so i can see my avatar in the mirror and test it while vr 😂
@umbral reef There's no material limit as far as I know.
Its a easy way to see if an avatar im using is bad
and plus, that's just one avatar
@rough pulsar Sadly not..
i mean bringing it into a public space
Yeah. I'd say 4-5 materials is a reasonable max limit.
Atm i am using 6 on a high end looking avatar
they need setting for particle. dyanimic bone etc in vrchat setting so people can turn it off
@rough pulsar you can take my freedom but you can never take my 29 materials!
Or at the very least anything over blasts warning sounds at you every step of the upload.
And i always aim for atleast 6 or lower
With cats right now its hella easy to get most below that
I take tupper's advice and make the effort to texture atlas
Does anyone here have a windows mixed reality headset that they can test something for me with
Maybe plays some avril lavigne at full volume while it uploads.
anything to reduce GPU load is a plus, it seems
I merge things in Blender so I only have one material I think? Usually 5-10 textures though
@rugged brook jup
on a semi-related note, the new Oculus Utilities for Unity release supposedly kicks up GPU performance about 15% or so
@rugged brook vrchat hardly use GPU it more of the CPU
@rugged brook Texture atlassing mostly helps reduce material count, which MMDs are notoriously bad for.
And constantly having to switch between materials is a CPU thing.
Lol I usually make particle effects with about 50-70 particles at max but people are walking around with 1000 and more going super sayian
the two models I found had a lot of materials, but so many were similar that they could be reduced to the 4-5 range
I still went the extra mile, though
Unless you know why you need more than one, don't use more than one.
in terms of materials.
they need limit material to 5
Also something i never botherd to look into
with animations
Does it only load/effect users when the animation plays?
@tacit plank you have 1 mesh but 5-10 materials
If i use lets say a 40K pol gun does it only lag when i use the animation? 
Yo does anyone know how to do Factoring
Oh, fair enough 😛 Idk how to merge them but they need different shader settings so this is probably the best I can do
I need help on my homework
@umbral reef ploygon only effect download only
@umbral reef yes but holy cow why 40k lol
With all the flashy avatars and particle spam going around I appreciate the basic but pretty models
@sturdy cove it was an example XD
@jovial pasture http://www.wolframalpha.com/ is great for helping with math problems.
Wolfram|Alpha is god-tier
@umbral reef 
Did a job application for BT once, got to the numeracy test and was so worn out from the rest of the application (it was one of those massive online ones) I just copypasta'd all the questions into WA for it.
Work smarter, not harder.
it's like, if you know how to do it, but know how to do it faster with a computer, you might as well use the computer
It's great when you know the syntax
it's always good to touch up, though
@rough pulsar THANK U
Yo , is the new SDk blocking particle effects and sound now?
I'm great at getting to grips with the how and why of math stuff, but actually doing it fucks my brain something silly.
But if you don't know how to, say, write a Matrix, it can't help you
@rough pulsar I always get asked by my school to try out new things (building the robot hand and explain how it works and that 'fun' fun stuff)
I legit just google everything because there is nothing no one has done before on a forum :lul:
Forums for rum
@rough pulsar those guys who are messing with the sdk instead of decimation probably think that way too lol
Hue hue hue
That just reminded me of a thing I don't think has been done before that I need to work on.
Or even see if will work at all. >:D
i remember trying to tell it how to use an exponent in a logarithm's base
that wasn't fun
@sturdy cove Haha, probably. Even though polycount isn't as much as an issue as the 20k limit claims it is.
what exactly is the reason for that low limit? i'd imagine it being some form of security against common unoptimizations
yo guys. Is the new SDK not accepting particle effects and sound?
Jeez I had such great fun today with vr
I guess I'm lucky for it being my first day with vr and I didn't get any motion sickness
Did you go to the amusement park?
How much did you have to pay
cuz it'll solve that problem for you 😛
The following component types are found on the avatar and will be removed by the client: ONSPAudiosorce, Particlesystems
@uncut gorge I need to go there at some point
from what i understand you only get really motion sick from things like amusement part
Low fps for a long time or after a week or two if your unlucky
it depends on the person
@keen chasm about 300$ but that's including expensive shipping and outrageous taxes
Not bad
@rugged brook Probably kept around from the old days of vrchat.
And apparently there's no plans for increasing it, and no explanation of why.
some people imagine the world moving around them instead of them moving through the world
It was 240$ for the headset itself
Even after taxes that's still really good
I see someone holds the same belief of limiting particles @sturdy cove
I plan to buy a computer first and maybe I won't need vr. Though I do enjoy the thought of being able to hug people
Its like you are in a virtual reallity :kappa:
@lean mortar You'll find yourself unable to describe VR to people who haven't ever experienced VR.
But its fun punching lolis in the face
That's perfectly normal, since it's such a unique experience.
It’s like real life but not real life
It feels like my waifu is finally real
And the tracking was really good
That’ll show those kids who bullied me and my waifu and called her trash
I absolutely love the conversations I have with people before I demo my vive to them.
They kinda try to get me to describe what it's going to be like, and I struggle because it's not possible.
Then they try it and their brains go 💥
Is not being serious in the slightest
I am now in the though spot of thinking if I should be silent or talk in game
@vocal shard They were killing my performance on previous gpu so I know you shouldn't use many. Also hello fellow #0001
Yep
My waifu is cute but older than one might think. Is also my discord avatar
@rough pulsar yup that's what happens to me
I have no waifu or anything weird like that
VR really wants to make you feel like you're there, and it does it astonishingly well
I love the look on their faces when they come back to reality and I just say to them "you understand now, don't you?" and it's just this incredible look that just says "Yes."
They are weird imo
Like they are cool effects but its easy to optimize them
I got to test out the htc vive before
Snap back to reality
But it was still awesome
Watch yo profanity
@vocal shard you don't need many particles usually. Just good textures/meshes for them
i haven't tried VR yet, but I have a slightly better idea of what to expect
But Windows doesn't have the most accurate pointer tracking which spooked me at first
it's still gonna be wacky to see things in my peripheral vision
Like on my Custom Tomura Shigaraki I limit the particles to 10 and the trail effect to say 100-250 since it doesnt animate rather just stays behind and fades
But everything was fine otherwise
Ever can't stop looking at your avatar sometimes? That's what's happening rn with me
@vocal shard Stop spamming. Now.
Do the thing Gallium
Once I get VR i’m gonna have too much fun with my Tomura Shigaraki
Banneroni
rip
he wants the thicc
He got what he wanted
Impressive vocabulary
I don't have any "waifus" but I know a lot of good girls, my avatar is one of them
still rip
@keen chasm I have a friend who streams and every time I see my avatar on her stream I'm like "....it moves like me and sounds like me but....I'm not a hot anime waifu IRL"
Idk if I bought vr just for vrchat would it really pay off?
yes because you'll end up playing other games as well
Worst particle effects I’ve seen are the ones that take up the whole skybox almost
@keen chasm ah I wouldn't say only vrchat
You can get awesome stuff and some for free
Usally they are short tho
Yeah like maybe get the other games but it would mainly be vrchat
Even my scuffed phone vr was enough to go beyond what ibwas expecting. Its something else allright
I really should start talking in game in vrchat
Etna happens to be god-tier
@vocal shard gimme alink for that 👀
I am so shy and social enxiety and all of that
i dont have link i just seen a youtube video for it
dam
also the game is in japanese so rip
Right now I have a bad laptop but good phone. I shall rise like a corpse to finally be in on the new standard
while we're on the subject of VR
Riipp
I rarely speak as it is in VRChat cause of all the little kids I hear
I never speak in vrchat cus english is hard
i wear glasses. how well do those work with vr
Lel I would be quiet on purpose do cute stuff and then speak if they are in to it
@lean mortar You might find that your social anxiety is a little less than you expect in VR.
Take it easy to begin with, just talk with people you're comfortable with. Then steadily open up more as you feel okay to do so.
Shit, good point yoshi, I guess it's time to trash mine and get contacts
The thing is
gallium do you know why i may still be banned? I got a mail saying i got unbanned cause friendly fire
:>
@rugged brook if you have a 3d printer there are files online to print custom frames to put in your vr so you can use your glasses
There should be a warning honestly that pops up stating you need to be 13+ to play the game.
Now that I have my vr headset I need to use the headset mic
does it take a few horus for an unban to take effect?
So I don't sound weird
i'm perfectly fine with wearing them even if the headset presses on them
admin aren't doing so well today.
i wear headphones all the time with them on
And while I have an awesome usb table mic
The headset mic is terrible
i'm more concerned about how the lens affect the viewport
@vale palm It may take a little while for the unban to take effect, yeah. Beyond that I can't say since I don't do anything with vrchat bans.
oke, been 2hours now tho <.<
But like ah I probably should try a little bit
I have social anxiety, but it's better lately as I don't really care about anything
Its easier with people I know
if you have social anxiety
just kill your social life
and no need for the anxiety anymore
Is a 12 year old going to listen to it anyway? Lol
My social anxiety is better now
is anyone even gonna read the ToS?
But its still hard going to new territory
I need education so that I can get a job where I work from home
i guess im autistic then
But good night all
@lean mortar Like I said, start with just one or two people you know. Take it slow and gentle.
So they read it, then what?
Ill see you tomorrow
all it says in the thing is don't be rude to other people when you join the game
Goodnight :D
and the TOS isn't very specific about anything
:D
"slow and gentle" that sounds dirty
by making the account, you agree that you are 13 years or older. since you can lie on the internet, it's simply to prevent it from being used as a defense
@tacit plank Thats kinda imposible to have
have there been any reports about avatar stealing since the patch?
A job like that
the fact that they are 12 doesn't make a difference. they abide by the rules like anyone else
Don't speak with your mouth but your body. Get body tracking and show off the moves :3
Okay first, don’t insult autism unless you actually have it. I have it myself and took the time to read the ToS enough to abide by it.
being under 13 years old should be ban-able
It's difficult, but I can work just as well from home as I do IT. Should be possible
I can't remember how many "Are you 18?" Buttons I've clicked in my life.
OH HOH
again, how can one prove that someone is under 13
ON WHAT SITES DO YOU CLICK THOSE
i never read the ToS for anything rip
The lewdest
if they're close to the age, you have to consider margin of error
okay, they could be lying. it's hearsay
banned for lying
lol
Is Audio source in unity not working for vrchat anymore?
its like if i went around saying I'm hacking even if i'm not
Won't let me upload a avatar with one
Banned for lying on the internet lol
good ban
I think it's just a legal thing. VRChat is not allowed to collect information about people under the age of 13 (or something like that)
well, at that point, you're playing with fire
Nothing wrong with stating you’ve had to click “are you 18/13 etc” buttons as I’m sure everyones done it at some point.
hacking is a more serious offense than being underage to accept a ToS
Exactly
And 2018 own up to yourself this year
I'm a pure person I never clicked those buttons :^(
Don’t relive 2017
Pure
Is on the internet
@vocal shard having other peeps click them for you still counts
things like "if you are not of age, get a legal guardian to read for you"
The internet is unsafe by nature
But they wont do that
I wish people would stop regulating everything so harshly
@vocal shard ikr I'm always getting silent when these kids are around
The last thing online i got an adult to sign was a Neopets application
ToS are kind of ironic anyway. It's a long list of disclaimers because we, as humans, are terrible and will try to find loopholes to do illegal/unethical things
Neopets is so old my gosh i remember those
You'll never get them off the internet or off teen/adult games without severe measures
Webkinz
Same
While talking about ToS stuff
Can my avatar have vodka as a drink animation 
These guys asking for headpats make me sad 😟 but I can't say no to them since it may mean a lot for them
Yeah
I hate the idea of ToS, no way that having some text accessable somewhere will mean that it's legally binding no matter what it says
Headpats are nice
@tacit plank How else they can protect themself?
Must protec
"By reading this you automatically agree to give caffeine 100$" see? It shouldn't work like that
By changing a ton of laws, but that's not viable
People have asked for Head pats from my Tomura and I’m still working on getting VR
That's not how it works
So I just play the sad violin track for them instead
Rofl
Almost
But that would also not work within a proper legal paper
you reject headpats like you would reject head pats in real life
Its not really the same
if you don't want people petting your head, you say no
I've seen moderators ban Knuckle avatars before and I think that's hilarious
If it worked like that everyone would do it.
then, you get outta there
Steam says in their ToS that they own the games, even if you buy them
cuz if someone touches you in a pla--
I scream if I get randomly head patted
Glarf please don’t scream at me
I stare at you for a solid 6 seconds
😳
Its so they can pull games away from the store and even from your liberary if they wanted to for what ever reason
Some ToSes say that you're no longer allowed to sue the company if you use their product, things like that
Same so that peeps cant share the games when they want to stop using there account
dab on headpat haters
@tacit plank Those often even fired back for companies
@umbral reef steam let you keep download and game but no one else be able to buy it
i have games not on steam anymore
Except we own the license to play the steam games and if they suddenly go under we can still have access
Yes, that's the reason, but they shouldn't be allowed to write things like that, or take games away from people who've bought them (as buying a physical copy is permanent)
I’ll dab back
I'm pretty immune from most attempts at headpats because my avatar is taller than most lolis can reach.
Playing with a small avi with a deep voice is hilarious. I say thanks for the pat then they look confused
It's just a bad way to do things, and will only get worse until somebody changes it
Anyone else getting blisters from the vive controllers
Skeleton i did that once
It's also in the TOS that we'll get them if for some reason steam dies.
@raven silo Im giving it as to why its in there
I know they dont pull games fully away because of shitstorms that would happen but if an game is really bad orso they could do it
I think im gripping them too hard or something
I was a 3 inch tall storm trooper with a vans pauldron
I get headpats a lot. It's also my goal
Don't grip too hard
furious grip
@raw plaza Yeah, you're probably gripping way too hard.
@covert chasm The user by name GROIDONG is spamming vulgar particles, and doing that thing where they make ur screen white, is there a way to counter these? - Else than running to a nearbywall and praying the shader overlaps?
@tacit plank Add me (same name as here) and you can get another headpat tomorrow 
Can you block people by typing their usernane?
Btw why cant i turn down peoples sound effects anymore
😄 I'm off now, I will tomorrow though
Oclac can I also have some headpats?
I’m waiting for the day someone headpats godzilla
Some people are running around with extremely loud music
this is me http://puu.sh/zdG0l/f4385778bd.jpg
@manic ginkgo Jup jup
Sucessfully
Feel free to headpat me for food, drinks and headpats
Headpat for a headpat
@umbral reef they stop greenlight because of that even if the game it really bad first hour steam will refund the game
I can't headpat people, no headset 😦
Ever go to the club with that seal avi
I have
You can headpat people with your head
I had like 5 people after me telling me that they wanted to go seal clubbing 😦
Lmao
Lol
RIP
What if you clubbed back?
I even made cute rolling animations and stuff to appeal for headpats
Pulls out giant club
Just give us a keybind button to de-render all avatars for the moment, the avatar spam is getting out of hand.
“It’s clobberin time”
@manic ginkgo That is the best avatar I have ever seen xD
what if there were special colliders that allowed other avatars to interact with yours?
Abuse lol
this would allow people to willingly make their avatars interactable by other users
That would get abused so bad
I’ve seen someone use World Colliders successfully
best soultion add setting in menu to disable particle,sound and dyanmic bone on avatar. if you block everything then you just make shell of program that what once was
It was cool
@raw plaza https://i.imgur.com/QL4DntC.jpg This is pretty much how I hold my vive controllers.
Which is less of an actual hold and more of just letting them rest in my hands, I only tighten my grip when I start to move my hands a lot, then loosen up when they relax and slow down again.
I mean, it couldn't be abused any more than someone could setup their avatar as is
CMDR I had to make my own walking/Jump/Idle animations because it's a generic rig and doesn't work with the standard animation set
Cut your nails
Might be hard to see but it's a very loose grip, someone could easily pull the controller out of my hand. Very easily.
I'm gunna see if I can trick it into "using" a humanoid rig later
the only difference being possibly thrown through walls lol
Yeah ive been doing that with a dog lately but its taking forever inbetween uni xD
Oh
imagine making your avatar able to be picked up and thrown like a football
Yea im retarded rip hands
Just too strong
@rugged brook imagine people abouse it lol
I feel bad for neighbours above me
i mean, people can push things between maps anyway
except while in the air you spin
I kept hitting the ceiling on accident while throwing things or reaching for stuff
and like I mentioned, it would be something you put on the avatar
and then have colliders so other people can throw you
@raw plaza need taller ceiling
I'm surprised steamVR doesn't have an optional ceiling bounds display.
For the crazy people who VR with low ceilings.
Or chandeliers.
I think I'll add this to features requests. hang on
Friend got Spac with me
I mean i can stretch out and wont hit it but if i go on my tip toes i'll hit it
@rugged brook add to canny
Gallium do you play guitar?
And skied his hand
Rip
@rough pulsar How would that work with a tilted room 
Sliced*
As i got one
I do not, I used to play the theremin a few years back.
Need to practice with that some again.
Use the lowest point @umbral reef
That’s a perfect guitar players thumb nail 😋
@whole lodge Thats below my head : s
@umbral reef it can be done the IR see the celling anyways
ahaha, I usually keep at least one thumbnail like that since it makes opening up small electronics really easy.
Or it would work like the walking space
but instead you draw in the air
and lower/raise it by pc?
I break stuff & repair & break & repair again a lot. :D
It's kinda odd how so many people don't notice me though XD
I've smacked my head on everything BUT the ceiling in VR .
Even your foot
H-how
full-body tracking makes that much easier
also I'm kinda flexible
not as much as I used to be.
Need to take up yoga again.
Dont pull your hamstring now
we should start a Vr Fitness club
Like, I can easily touch my eyeballs with my toes.
I used to be able to put both feet behind my head, can't really do that any more.
Is hamstring the string you tie around a ham before putting it in the oven
No, the hamstring is the one you twang and when it resonates at exactly 33.56hz you can communicate telepathically with Barbara Streisand.
Correct
does that mean the vive pro will be able to do it
Hamstring is a pasta.
Tasty
Wait what
ill take one
Where can I get one of these hamstrings?
Ebay or amazon
Ask that strange lady next door with the dagger between her boobs.
Katarina lives next door?
I'm sure she lives next door to someone
Gasp
And that someone may well be a penguin.
Tfw you go to type gasp and nearly type Glarf
I am next door
hi next door im dad
Whats something i should do next time in vrchat btw guys
Hi mom whos dad
is it me or upload is dead again
I’ve seen just about everything in VRChat
You should get drunk and go amusement park next time in vrchat oclac
@vocal shard But have you seen me twerking yet?
what I really wanna find
I have seen people twerk
is a town for little people
I shall be on vrchat later tonight. If you find me, I shall twerk for you.
And probably other things.
Small town for little people, with houses that only little people can enter
^
I’ve seen things more weird than twerking in private worlds very weird
and in the houses there's more little people avatars
Is your name the same as here Gallium?
Yup. Same.
Same here
@rough pulsar Add me, name is the same as here 
Im GMT+1 though so big odds we wont find eachother in vr any time soon unless its weekend
This is kind of impromptu but I am working on an ice 'hockey' addendum to a new world I am building and am curious if there are 6 to 8 people able to help me test it --- say around 1:00 PST today?
I'm GMT+0 so you never know. We might do. :D
The best thing about EST we see everyone at least once all over the world
Nah, English with a massively fucked flexible sleep schedule.
Aus?
Straya
Bad thing; we are the worst sleepers
I have pulled all nighters and proceeded to stay up the next day
Don’t try that at home kids it’s not healthy x.x
Are there ever going to be voice channels for this dischord?
i remember when my sleep schedule was really bad and i was running into aussies.
that really threw me for a loop (UTC -8)
I'm not in vrchat right now.
I'm in bed. Where it's warm and lovely and I'm about to get a bit of sleep.
coolio
@manic ginkgo I unno do you?
Il accept the stuff tomorrow
I'm named the same in game
I need to clean my friend list
@rough pulsar 
if you're also named the same then I probably know you @upper cedar

Question am I a bad person for making a storm trooper with a pauldron with a panoramic “cock block logo” on it and will seek out thirsty males and proceed to ask for droids?
what did I just read
I just show up not even hinting at what i’m doing but it’s obvious
You read gloryessness
I read it as a cauldron and was very confused
STORM TROOPER WITH A CAULDRON
Trying to cook accuracy potion
YOU DID NOT SEE THAT COMING
#Boogiestorm
You probably wanted to hit something else and missed, and then you hit that thing
Storm troopers hit the dance floor with style
Oh please, don't try to hit the dance floor, you'll end up dancing next to it
Rood
Im pizzasexual
Wha
Do you put pineapple on your pizza though?
Who doesnt?
Cats if you-
hell yea
Yes cat hawaiian is best
Oh my god
You better at least cook it properly if you do that heresy
I can’t live on this planet anymore
Having a bit of an issue. I will contact support but I'm wondering if anyone might have had the issue before and have a solution on hand.... mind if I ask here?
I despise pineapple on pizza
😂 I ignore the pineapple haters
Same Glarf
No one does it right
Better then shit pizza
Its always thrown on after its cooked not durring
Lone wolf you identify as a pizzasexual you aren’t allowed to hate any kind of pizza 😋
The juices just seep into the pizza giving it a bad taste
Unless your baking the pineapple too keep it away
Wow thats homopbobic to pizza glarf Kappa
the pineapple gets cooked on it
Cheeseburger pizza is good though
as long as it doesn't taste bad on the pizza
Just reading that clogged my arteries
put it on the pizza. i could care less
It’s not as unhealthy as you’d think
It’s litterally just mustard pickles and bits of meat
Oh
yuck
That sounds good then
🤢
Not hamburger meat so confused how its a cheeseburger pizza tbh
Yeah i have had “breakfast pizzas”
Which I believe had suasage baccon and some eggs in it
wait a moment, Cats, are you the Cats I'm thinking of?
the blender plugin
k, just checking
i'm trying to thank the people who made the tools I used as I can appropriately
i’ve seen the actual person
🤔
I'd give them thanks, and treat them about the same way
but naturally, giving to the community in a big way has its weight
I mean heck people who freak out over “famous people” are annoying
yeah, I learned about this in my communication class
I love when people know who I am. I'm kind of a big deal on the internet, so the acknowledgement feels pretty good.
😑
VRChat is shutting down all audio for the Oculus Rift. Even if it's launched in desktop mode, it still shuts down all rift headset audio (IE: home-screen audio wont work, nothing). This happens even if there are -no other- audio sources except the rift headphones. Something in VRChat - once it loads - kills all audio to the rift. Anyone have an idea what's going on?
It's good to be recognized, but it's another thing to have someone obsess over you
Who’s that exactly?
unless they are yandere
then they can obsess over me all they want
because that's hot
idk who you are
that's fine
hawaiian pizza also have canadian bacon on it
Then theres the people who go “I’m a big deal i love to make a point about it”
canadian bacon is a universal sin
I'm the opposite. I live under rock, so I don't even know famous people...
it's just ham
I find that pineapple is good if you find a good combo of other toppings to offset and compliment the sweetness of pineapple
I can’t get passed the sweetness
my only encounter with a famous person on vrchat so far was a pug in a trenchcoat who was obsessed about jazz
my personal combo is a cheese pizza with pineapple, beef/steak and green peppers
and i mean obsessed
pineapple pepperoni banana peppers
closest to being with a famous person is racing Vinnny from Vinesauce in Mario Kart 8
@static drift then thats not a cheese pizza