#vrchat-general-2

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teal zinc
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karmic rose
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It's handled in the backend using videoplayers (simplification) to a custom server. Requires untrusted urls.

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The user just types and presses send. Then my bot in discord posts it

steady stump
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so, it is basically the user writing in a VRCUrlInputField, similar to the YouTube search worlds 😅
makes sense i guess... but why you would need a videoplayer for that, i don't understand 🤔
anyway, i think i get the gist 🤷 thanks for sharing 🙂 👍

karmic rose
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I did say (simplification) for a reason xP

carmine stirrup
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Idk I was thinking more like you open your menu and there's like a chat button, you click on it and shows your different dms with players. You can send stickers and images taken by your camera

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I forgot to reply

karmic rose
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Yeah. They would just need like AI moderation and strong filtering.

They've said a few times they don't want to pursue it. But things always change so who knows down the line

steady stump
# karmic rose I did say (simplification) for a reason xP

i understand how StringDownloader works... and i know how to make a simple web API service that can handle HTTP GET requests to do whatever... so i don't understand why you would need a videoplayer in the mix 😅
but anyway... should probably take it to DMs if we are going to get technical, and i wouldn't want to bother you too much 😟

sharp saddle
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Oh goooood, I can only imagine the amount of shit that gets posted. KEK

karmic rose
steady stump
karmic rose
sharp saddle
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Damn.

karmic rose
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One of these days I'll remake the world

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Kinda shitty how old stuff just slowly breaks

teal zinc
karmic rose
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I'm working on rebuilding my main world from scratch. I had over 1200 updates to it when I lost all the data on my computer.

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Taken me the last 2 years to remake it all

ornate cobalt
dire oxide
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hi

golden crystal
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Xbox or PlayStation idk what’s better ;-;

dusk moth
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Me personally Xbox,

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That's my opinion

golden crystal
remote kelp
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Literally no one go back to Just B club

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Oh he got banned nvm

bitter bone
remote kelp
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I'm everywhere

bitter bone
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I reported it before I noticed he got banned and that was less than a minute before your message

remote kelp
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Ah

spiral maple
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Yo how do I get vrchat iOS

sharp saddle
spiral maple
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I tried there is no banner

sharp saddle
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You're likely not to be accepted anyway.

shrewd pumice
tough palm
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Hi

shadow field
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Bro

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No thats disgusting

steady stump
mint surge
hollow dirge
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Sooooo, I just got a quest 2 from a friend and I downloaded vrchat and I have no clue what to do now lol

mint surge
mint surge
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Or don’t✨

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Might be for the best

hollow dirge
mint surge
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Walk into a random portal✨

steady stump
mint surge
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Nah walk through random portals till you find one you like

velvet zinc
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question, i want to have it so that trusted ppl avi is standart shown, but just not with the particles and stuff so i dont lag much, i tried using the shield lvl to make it happen but all i see is the imposter avis or a robots, i dont know what to do i tried a couple of things nothing works, i even turned off the shield to see what would happend and it stayed the same

sharp saddle
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You can limit particle effects via config.json. https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/configuration-file

VRChat

There are a few systems in VRChat that have configurable options or properties. These systems aren't customized with settings you can set in the application, as the default settings are sufficient for the vast majority of VRChat players. However, we have provided a way for you to customize some of t...

exotic lava
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fish

toxic bone
proven pier
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Raindrop

kind jackal
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Any fun groups to join today? so i can skip world hopping

stoic fox
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hey i have a question, im not that rich but i can buy the meta quest 3s, thing is, does it last a while? (battery wise), or should i buy the bobovr battery? costs even more tho...

teal zinc
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stoic fox
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hey, you still use it ? @faint geyser

signal chasm
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airlink isnt on marketplace on meta quest 3 s

sharp saddle
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Well, no shit.

signal chasm
sharp saddle
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Airlink is part of the Meta PC software.

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What is on the Quest store is Steam Link and Virtual Desktop.

teal zinc
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signal chasm
sharp saddle
teal zinc
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sharp saddle
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Did you not read what I said?

teal zinc
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signal chasm
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$20.00

faint geyser
karmic rose
teal zinc
stoic fox
karmic rose
faint geyser
signal chasm
stoic fox
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First time buying a vr, gonna go with quest 3s, idk if 2.5h battery will be enough and someone recomendes that cabble you use, how long does it take to charge? Plus can i put the 2 entrances on my pc ( since i have both ) forgot to mention @faint geyser

faint geyser
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Quest 3 takes like 18W charge, while the cable only can charge with 10W output (okay for Quest 2)

stoic fox
faint geyser
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If you're set in stone to play only for about 2-3 hours, that cable should do you very well

faint geyser
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Normal cable is short though, I think

stoic fox
faint geyser
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$22

stoic fox
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Whats that middle thing

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35

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Almost Same as the Big one

faint geyser
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It's a power injector so it can take the power from the charging adapter and charge the Quest much better

faint geyser
stoic fox
faint geyser
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Guess the taxes are pretty high there...

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If not, you can still get JSAUX, it's still a decent cable

stoic fox
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Absolutely😭😭😭, can’t wait to go to uni and do game program and leave to Japan 😭😭😭

stoic fox
stoic fox
faint geyser
stoic fox
faint geyser
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So you aren't sure how long you'll play?

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If that's the case, I would go with option C, since it can actually charge up Quest 3 without it losing charge while using

signal chasm
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how do i stop my vr headset from forcing everyones avatar in vr chat look glitchy?

sharp saddle
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Fix your download settings.

signal chasm
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i use quest

sharp saddle
signal chasm
sharp saddle
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You have a PC, right?

signal chasm
sharp saddle
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Theeeen use that instead.

stoic fox
faint geyser
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To use it, you plug the USB-A head to your PC's USB port, plug the USB-C head to your headset, and for the middle part, you connect it with the official charging cable to the charging adapter

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@stoic fox

misty siren
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I lost my vrc+ :c

faint geyser
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Expired?

tawny ginkgo
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Who the hell is Steve JobsfKEKW

vocal shard
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You've got a friend in me🎶

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When the road looks rough ahead🙂🎶

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And you're miles and miles from your nice warm bed🎶

grim thorn
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I need mods

dawn wadi
hushed palm
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Hey

unreal snow
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😭

hushed palm
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Had a question does anyone know what to do about vr dying quickly

unreal snow
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I'd think everybody here plays vrchat

unreal snow
hushed palm
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No not with one plugged in

unreal snow
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My vr dies in like 2 hours unless I got a link cable or charger plugged in

hushed palm
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Like off the charger why does it die so fast and I just recently bought my vr as well

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I got the 3s

unreal snow
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If you have the 3s it doesn't have a long battery life

hushed palm
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Yeah Damnn rippp

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Which one is best for battery life ?

unreal snow
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🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️I wouldn't know I got a 3s Lol

hushed palm
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Damn real 😭😭😭😭

ornate cobalt
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they all have bad battery life

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embrace charger / usb tether

ornate epoch
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Hello hello

azure veldt
steady stump
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#1138891887374237706 (#community-support) was renamed (from `#user-support) 😮👍
very nice! hope this helps with people always thinking it is official help 😅

steady stump
proud jackal
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@chrome spade hope your feeling alr 🙌

signal chasm
rapid crypt
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ahem

Cyberpunk: Edgerunners final episode. David caught a fade

runs away

rain mica
chrome spade
warm iron
coarse surge
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has anyone experianced a weird bug where you cant hold any gestures without it flickering to another one?, like when I hold a grab gesture it randomly switches back and forth between pointing

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it's not My controllers cus they work fine on other games

bold topaz
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Does anyone have a quest pro and use the link cable for vrchat… I need help

empty inlet
bold topaz
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I have a question 1 and 2 as well but I am using the quest pro and don’t know how to setup the eye and face tracking for vrchat

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Read so many things but understand nothing about it

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No clue what a developer account is or how to make one

empty inlet
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Yeah I don’t know about face tracking sorry man

spark delta
lapis void
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hey chat

tender pelican
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bye chat

bitter bone
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<@&397642795457970181>

vocal shard
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You realize you can use the bot cat right

bitter bone
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Yeah but they don’t respond as fast sometimes

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I actually ended up manually asking annie when she popped up randomly 😅

steady stump
vocal shard
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Weird

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It works for me normally

radiant yoke
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I've got a bit of a settings question if anyone knows: Is there a way to set it so the home world you spawn into is set to invite only?

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Right now mine sets it to friends whenever I spawn in, but a lot of the time I'm spending the first 15-30 minutes I'm in vrchat adjusting settings between being on headset and being in desktop mode (And hooking up audio in desktop is a whole ordeal since my headphones have this awful setting that turns my computer volume up to 80% as soon as they connect and I have to connect my mic after). I've had one of my friends jump in my homeworld 2-3 times now, and the first time they nearly blew my eardrums because I had no mic set yet and my volume was maxed out.

mental shuttle
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anyone know why the VRC tag on Discord is a blue heart?

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Im trying it out. not sure I'll keep it though.

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please @ me

hardy perch
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I think it's cute

mental shuttle
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but maybe they thought so too... color I can see being blue because it is the main color of VRC you could say.

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also dont know what the alternatives are

quasi marlin
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I have a problem in vrchat. When I click on a link the game crashes. Can I get rid of it so that it doesn't crash anymore?

sharp saddle
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What do you mean "click on a link"? What link are you clicking?

vocal shard
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I hope it's not suspicious link I swear to God...

quasi marlin
quasi marlin
shrewd pumice
quasi marlin
shrewd pumice
vocal shard
shrewd pumice
vocal shard
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EeveeStare okay

unreal snow
teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

unreal snow
signal chasm
signal chasm
vocal shard
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Not really

steady oxide
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anyone know how SteamVR chords work?

novel dragon
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I'm wondering if anyone has had someone trying to impersonate others? I currently have someone experiencing this and the person is being toxic while doing it clearly trying to cause problems with their VRC name.

I get that all that can be done is reporting and blocking them, I'm just wondering how common this is.

bitter bone
modest hamlet
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anyone know of any horror games on vrc that's quest compatible?

radiant yoke
obsidian cobalt
burnt shore
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Also one more question for everyone here, dose anyone know a avi creator

karmic rose
burnt shore
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Thank you so very much

serene talon
burnt shore
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Ok think you so much

worthy iris
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Quick question, got mocopi recently, what do I use the head tracker for?

rain mica
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A head tracker is just the head set? Oh mo cap? Nvm

daring sparrow
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I'm tryna put it in. 👁️👁️

toxic vector
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Ayoooo

prime sage
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I thought vrchat should urgently implement a donation system, otherwise their management is being negligent

bitter bone
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huh

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You can buy vrc+ which is basically a donation?

prime sage
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Im not talking about donations to the company. I mean a player to player tipping system. And honestly, the current vrc+ offers nothing appealing to me

marsh mango
toxic vector
marsh mango
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Nothing just getting a little laugh

toxic vector
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Whats bad about Ken Carson ?

marsh mango
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His albums sound the same

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He mumbles

sonic chasm
toxic vector
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Ngl I’m not the type to be offended over others opinions on music a lot of this shit sound the same tbh 😭. I mostly fw his vibe and what he wears and shit I like scary shit and like horror shit

marsh mango
toxic vector
toxic vector
marsh mango
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Anyway

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Ken carson in my opinion just like doesn't have a good flow

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The beats aren't very good

toxic vector
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Type shit what’s ur thoughts on lil yatchy older music ?

marsh mango
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I don't listen to yachty

toxic vector
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😭😭

marsh mango
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Huh

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What

toxic vector
marsh mango
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Oh

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Yeah I see

toxic vector
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Like gng that got it 😭😭

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Anyways u be playing vr ?

wind warren
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anyone recommend a good singleplayer world?

fathom crater
raw fulcrum
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Is it true that political topics and avatars are forbitten in public VRChat instances?

tranquil otter
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Bacon pancakes
Makin bacon pancakes
Bacon pancakes
Thats what we're gonna make
BAAACCOONN PAAANCAAAKESSS

raw fulcrum
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In relation to the parties that are currently available in real life in Germany.

ornate cobalt
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Yeah so, wouldn't recommend any nazi related shit unless you wanna be bonked with the banhammer

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If thats what you are getting at

prisma narwhal
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Yo

raw fulcrum
ornate cobalt
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The fact you are being so evasive about what you are asking is suspect though

raw fulcrum
teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

raw fulcrum
raw fulcrum
teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

bitter bone
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💀

teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

desert oxide
devout tangle
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"ugh vrchat hasn't added [random pointless feature literally only one person wants]?? their management is being negligent 😒"

bitter bone
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Lmao legit 😂

lapis void
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hey chat

fathom crater
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hello

noble schooner
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Anyone that wants to join a vrc friend group age range 13-17

remote kelp
noble schooner
remote kelp
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vrcRat because it was a moderator that deleted ur message

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why would u think "Oh a moderator deleted my message let me put it somewhere else"

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Intelligence at it's finest but that's what I expect from a no-pfp asking for kids to join a friend group

noble schooner
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Its a friend vrc group not that deep

remote kelp
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vrcRat Consider it a "No" from basically everyone here

noble schooner
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What did i even do i just want to make friends

remote kelp
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maybe play the game lol

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vrcRat that's probably the fastest way to make friends in the game is by playing the game

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vrcAevSip also no hate to u, I just am somewhat suspicious of people that ask things like that because there's a LOT of scammers that do the exact same thing

noble schooner
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I do play the game but i have social anxiety

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But i understand you i wil just give up you win

rain mica
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and that you joined what

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Today? And made your account

remote kelp
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eh let it be sage

rain mica
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👍

exotic lava
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fish!

rain mica
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Nachos

somber stone
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anyone wanna hangout in vrchat?

gray vapor
somber stone
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ill be 23 in a month

rain mica
gray vapor
rain mica
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Sus

gray vapor
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no

rain mica
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And you asked AGE

gray vapor
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just to see if they old because im only 15 i dont want to play with some old freek

rain mica
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Doubts

gray vapor
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about what

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me being 15?

somber stone
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its fine, dont wanna play with minors anyway

remote kelp
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vrcDanceRat this game isn't for children begone back to gorilla tag with ye fetus

gray vapor
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0/10 ragebait

remote kelp
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oh it's not ragebait

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I'm being genuine. This game is not for children

somber stone
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fr it isnt

gray vapor
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fuck off

rain mica
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I mean the discord server is 13+

shy prawn
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im sorry for wanting to chill whith friends?

remote kelp
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vrcRat I stand by my statement

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if you take offense to it, that's you're problem

shy prawn
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is it because of the user made nsfw stuff?

remote kelp
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Issue with all that stuff is this game wouldn't be marketed as "13+" if Meta wasn't 60% of vrchat's profits rn

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it'd be marked as 16+ at least

somber stone
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lets just move on...

shy prawn
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to be honest the trolls are mostly the kids

remote kelp
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ratWICKED I could hang out with ya later accalia

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if I get on that is idk

somber stone
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sure, im getting tired tonight but another night sure

rotund trench
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Wsp

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Hey, Wsp

last ether
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Can someone gift me Opal nitro

remote kelp
sharp saddle
last ether
sharp saddle
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Uh, no there isn't. Unless you're referring to the badge which you can only attain if you have a constant subscription for a set amount of time.

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One month won't get you anywhere.

last ether
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Can you gift me 6 years

sharp saddle
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Fuck no.

last ether
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Why

sharp saddle
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One, I don't know you. Two, I don't want to.

last ether
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Thought you was cool bro

somber stone
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bro what

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plus the time has to past

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they have had nitro for 7 years, you cant get it until minimum 6

bitter bone
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🤦 you guys are a scourge for doin shit like that

amber glade
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What the…

somber stone
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Lmao wtf

slim cradle
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My vr burned 😭

shadow field
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Damn

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Womp womp don't leave plugged in 24/7

gloomy bobcat
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Is the Xbox oculus 3 leak real?…I want to buy a 3 now but if it is I wanna wait

hard oriole
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The US just successfully destroyed three major nuclear plants in Iran AND made it safely back home, without being detected.

gentle hinge
ember tundra
# gloomy bobcat Is the Xbox oculus 3 leak real?…I want to buy a 3 now but if it is I wanna wait

a few videos on it recently so maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6yRkY40sa0

So finally know more about the Meta Quest 3S Xbox Edition Headset which will be offering a VR cloud gaming bundle of Game Pass Ultimate, Xbox Controller and Elite Strap. Can we expect Minecraft and Halo in VR soon?

Are the Quest 3 and 3S Still Worth it?
https://youtu.be/D2VubC_2qxU

Cloud Gaming on Meta Quest
https://youtu.be/HgPzbr2SsXg

Vitu...

▶ Play video
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@gentle hinge

gentle hinge
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Does this mean I can play elden ring on vr

ember tundra
crystal epoch
last ether
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I'll pay you back in 6 years when I get the badge

bitter bone
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Wait annie you’ve had nitro for 8 years woah lol

crystal epoch
crystal epoch
last ether
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I think that's fair

bitter bone
crystal epoch
carmine stirrup
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Is there anyone around like my age who wants to be friends on vrchat, all my friends got practically deleted and I've been so bored opening and closing the app

bitter bone
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How’d they “get deleted”? 🤔

teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

carmine stirrup
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I only know it's that much bc I saw it on the website

bitter bone
carmine stirrup
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Unfortunately it wasn't a friend 😅 he was in this server at some point I know

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But yeah I'm kinds at square one a little bit, but I did get like 2 friends back bc I remembered their usernames and have been friends for years

teal zinc
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carmine stirrup
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I can't remember but they had my email from a screenshot, I think we used to switch accounts tho I didn't want to. I cant remember the context

teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

carmine stirrup
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Your telling me, he had friends and I didn't. Id make new ones and boom gone, I changed my password like 87 times! And then he would send me emails

teal zinc
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One message removed from a suspended account.

carmine stirrup
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But yeah I really just want somebody to play with I'm always in worlds alone or I'm boring publics! Everyone is always in their own little group

carmine stirrup
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Don't think he's here anymore I couldn't find his username

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But if anybody is down! I'd be very happy to play just maybe dm me or something

crystal epoch
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?tag friends

shy spokeBOT
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👋 Hello, if you are looking for a place to hangout with someone, try searching on #1204490664637890580 .

We often see scammers and bots posting "looking for friends", "who wants to play", type posts before transitioning into a scam.

⚠️

  • You should always be vigilant when meeting and talking to people that you don't know.
  • Do not accept work of any kind from people you just met.
  • Do not download or run any files from people you just met.
  • Always check links and avoid going to unknown websites or websites that state that they offer something for free.
  • Remember that free cheese is only found in a mouse trap.
carmine stirrup
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I never saw that

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What a lame scam

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It looks like a whole Lotta nothin

crystal epoch
carmine stirrup
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It says they see scammers ask the same thing I did

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And I looked at the servers unfortunately nothing sticks out

prime sage
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I think VRChat's kick vote system should include the reporter's username in the notification pop-up for transparency

ruby needle
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This is overall a dilemma

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In one way you want to prevent spamming that randomly, but putting the name of persons there extremely shifts the burden of actually daring to fight bullies / bad people as then you can become their specific target cus they know who it was.

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As this is a instance wide vote, the anonymity is the imo. best approach here.

prime sage
# ruby needle I disagree.

I understand the concern about retaliation, but from my perspective, the current system doesn't feel fair either. Players can remain anonymous while forcing others to make decisions based on incomplete information. It feels like having the power to influence outcomes without taking responsibility. If someone believes strongly enough that a player should be kicked, they should be willing to stand behind that decision. Otherwise, we're essentially allowing anonymous accusations to drive collective actions, which creates its own problems.

ruby needle
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But as it is a community based vote imo the anonymity here outweighs the massively increased commitment threshold and retaliation

prime sage
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Community participation is important, but so is preventing abuse. The current system failed me completely - I got kicked for nothing while my anonymous attacker faced no consequences. If showing names makes people think twice before reporting, that might actually improve the system by reducing false reports.

ruby needle
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It's understandable that you are frustrated about that bad experience, but the other options has even worse and more impactful issues that can come with it.

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Dilemma's never are nice cirBlech

prime sage
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That's exactly the problem - there's no due process. If we're going to keep reporters anonymous, then at least give the accused person a chance to respond or explain their side before the vote concludes. A 30-second response window could prevent a lot of false kicks while still protecting reporter anonymity

old stump
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The accuser can lie

vocal shard
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Clearly vrc team already made their decision long time ago regarding the vote kick system since you could see who vote kicked before but not anymore lol

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@prime sage

karmic rose
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I member the old days with malicious mods lmao.

Being able to see who was attempting to take action against you would just put a huge target on u, resulting in malicious users crashing you.

It's basically a huge red flag saying "it's me, crash me!"

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Moment a malicious user would even see you point at them like you're selecting their collider to kick them, bam, crashed.

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But in all instances, it's just a hour kick and you're able to rejoin that same instance, and you're always able to join any other instance or make your own.

There's simply no reason to know who submitted a vote kick.

If you think being kicked from a specific instance for an hour is some grave misjustice, then you may be taking the game too seriously. Shit happens. Make a new instance, then you can kick who you want, or just join a different instance with better people. You're not kicked from a world, just that specific instance, and only for 60 minutes. It's a non problem.

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Meanwhile the very real threat of retaliation is huge. It can entirely undermine the function of the whole system.

If you're in a instance you made and a toxic user joins, who sees you attempt to kick them, and they instantly crash you, would you be in here complaining about that?

Slightly inconvenience a few users for 60 minutes, or break the entire usability of the system.

What's your solution?

steady stump
rocky blaze
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so why do i have to go on the website to remove "failed security checks" avatars from my favourites and not in game

signal chasm
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my steam vr has no audio and its frusterating

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@prime sage

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@old stump

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@crystal epoch

crystal epoch
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cough

old stump
ocean zephyr
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also double check if you have nothing propped into your ears 👀

signal chasm
old stump
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on average, windows is not automated by default, you have to always manually check

ocean zephyr
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depends on how you have configured steam and your computer, I guess

dusty axle
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I'm scared of the other chat.

ocean zephyr
# dusty axle I'm scared of the other chat.

being scared is good, acknowledging your scares is even better -- now you can build a roadmap into overcoming your scares. 💪 best of luck, I am convinced you're capable of overcoming your scares.

obsidian cobalt
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hi gen 2

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how are we doing today

ocean zephyr
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today I exist here, so in that respect -- better than yesterday 👀 hbu?

obsidian cobalt
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been alright! day off and i’ve been wasting it playing kingdom hearts lmao

vocal shard
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Can somebody help me with VR chat? It logged me in and then kicks me out

vocal shard
#

Thank u

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Nobody’s answering

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I’m sorry for texting so much but I wanna fix this. I wanna play so bad.

stray temple
steady stump
copper inlet
#

Hi

dapper elm
mortal marsh
#

The backrooms of vrcgen1

crisp violet
#

.

bitter bone
#

Oh wrong channel, that’s on me

crisp violet
#

LOL

#

Hope you and your wifey doing alr mate

bitter bone
#

Always 👋 thanks!! ^-^

crisp violet
#

Better not go homeless man

#

Ik yall got this!

bitter bone
#

Nu I got a job as a delivery driver about a month ago, idk if that’s after or before our chat lol

crisp violet
#

well thats great

#

Im not sure what else to talk about but glad to see yall are doing better

bitter bone
#

But we’re doin mostly fine aside from some bill shit I gotta figure out down the line ;-;

#

Lmao nah me neither but thanks for following up!

crisp violet
#

You also just kept the same pfp and bio

ocean zephyr
#

pokes everyone in the ribs in this channel 👀

sharp saddle
#

Rude.

cosmic sigil
#

Ouch my ribs

worn herald
#

Check vr chat videos🥺

obsidian cobalt
#

hi gen 2 chat

fallow vine
#

Can I have a brownie

karmic rose
#

No

north topaz
chrome stratus
#

Did anyone else get a rainbow ribbon thing?

proven mauve
sharp shale
#

hi gen 2

bold mulch
#

What will it take for a baddie to be in my DMs

glad breach
#

Heyyy beautiful people

dapper elm
glad breach
#

How u doin

dapper elm
glad breach
#

Kinda good trying to recover from 2 day drinking we had Jāņi un Līgo Holidays 😄

stable jackal
glad breach
stable jackal
glad breach
#

Agh yeah right my bad

stable jackal
#

Phew imagine if they were

glad breach
#

It’s like a unicorn we don’t know do they exist or not

#

Got to get out in the wild to maybe spot one

stable jackal
#

Wait unicorns aren’t real?

glad breach
#

Now I crushed one’s dream

#

And belief

stable jackal
#

WHAT??? NO

potent bolt
glad breach
#

So unfortunately we won’t have skittles in a year

stable jackal
#

They silence my pain

stable jackal
potent bolt
stable jackal
small marsh
potent bolt
stable jackal
small marsh
potent bolt
potent bolt
small marsh
potent bolt
#

Yes I’m flexing my height

stable jackal
small marsh
potent bolt
#

Yeah one time I was wearing my baggy jeans the they caught the wind

#

I got hit by two plans and a wind turbine

small marsh
#

Now personally I’m at a towering 5’3 105 pounds

potent bolt
#

Invisible reference ?

#

Where the title card

potent bolt
small marsh
#

Right on the money

potent bolt
#

I think that was the only route 😞

small marsh
#

Why try to be masculine when I make a perfect femboy

potent bolt
#

I mean I guess whatever sells broski

#

I joined here before buying my cr what is there to except in vrchat

#

Vr

small marsh
#

What

potent bolt
#

Like I haven’t played vr chat what should I expect

small marsh
potent bolt
#

I’m buying a quest for 80 bucks I ain’t going all out for first try

small marsh
#

If you do end up getting a pc I suggest a game called terrors of nowhere on vrchat

potent bolt
#

I’ve seen videos 😱

small marsh
#

Ain’t no one buying that man

potent bolt
#

Your beating a dead horse bro

#

Like we ain’t looking to buy

small marsh
#

Negotiate deez nuts

potent bolt
#

I’m looking forward to my (gulp) experience 😼

small marsh
#

Check your DMs

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No I didn’t

devout tangle
#

stfu no one cares

#

die

glad breach
#

Maybe someone here is going to Summersound this August 😄

devout tangle
#

buddy it's been an hour ts not selling as fast as u think

daring sparrow
ivory swift
#

Does anyone in here have a PiShock?

devout tangle
daring sparrow
#

Ahhh. Ill buy it if you PAY ME

short girder
#

hi =0

storm mica
#

hey i got on my vrchat and it says i got a bundle in my inventory but when i check the site its completly empty

old kelp
#

It's probably going to be behind a paywall you get a cube tho

#

It has world drop

obsidian cobalt
#

got a cube and the rainbow LGBTQ magic wand

vocal shard
#

Yap

obsidian cobalt
#

and a few emojis including the pythagorean theorem ?? but the rainbow one looks cool as hell

old kelp
#

I hope they make it to whrre you can upload via the sdk

astral pollen
#

How does one make a support ticket? portals are stuck open in public instances

astral pollen
#

did. Not work

tired basin
carmine stirrup
#

There's this one game in vrchat and I can't remember the name, all I know you fight monsters in a city and theres this one weapon that's a sythe and a gun does anybody know it

carmine stirrup
#

And you fight these like lizard things

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And Bulls

wanton granite
#

I see that we can have more emojis or whatever now and there are category’s for them on vrchat and you can rename them but on the phone I don’t get that option to see the others only the one idk if that’s something that needs fixed or what

warped bay
#

Did my Elden ring chat get deleted 💔💔

vocal shard
tulip moat
#

hi

rough oxide
#

good mrn peeps

tulip moat
#

uh

dapper elm
mint surge
inner flint
#

Good morning everyone!

#

How is it going?

dapper elm
inner flint
#

I can't complain! Looking forward to get home, I am seriously tired even after emptying a can of monster

dapper elm
#

Real

inner flint
#

Also looking forward to get back into VRC, its been a while for me

inner flint
dapper elm
inner flint
#

The index is heavy, it always needs a bit of self convincing to get into it

#

Really hope the new valve thingy will be lighter and smaller x.x

dapper elm
#

Right

inner flint
#

I saw there are water physics now?

dapper elm
#

Oh Idk tbh

inner flint
#

I'll find it, no worries no worries

proud trench
#

Thank you kindly stranger. I really needed to hear this. You take time for yourself also. Smiles.

proud trench
#

wassup

earnest cypress
rapid crypt
#

Meow

inner flint
earnest cypress
inner flint
wanton yew
#

Good afternoon how is everyone today

obsidian cobalt
#

pretty good !

queen shuttle
#

Hii

mortal marsh
queen shuttle
#

Hi

queen shuttle
hallow mason
#

Hello, I'd like one milkshake and a cheeseburger please. And a coke zero large

mortal marsh
#

I have enby shoe laces and I love em.

queen shuttle
hallow mason
#

I don't believe you, you always say that. I want to speak with your manager

queen shuttle
#

The manager is getting fucked in back

queen shuttle
mortal marsh
#

what is ur flag of the flag

mental shuttle
#

me: "Still waiting for group creation to be released for everyone, you said it would… Has this changed?"

strasz: "I don’t think we have any plans to release Groups to everyone right now. That could change, but we’re happy with where they’re at."

well that's some sad news...

#

but love the items/inventory thing

faint geyser
#

Also with the age verification as well

winged patrol
mental shuttle
mental shuttle
#

some gotta be free for sure...

#

horrible if not... sigh

#

Im more worried about the mentality that's growing and for the future. my suggestion is no feature is paywalled but to expand the feature is. and/or VRC+ Lite for a lot cheaper and you get just that or pick a certain amount of features you want. but again, I agree with survival above else. just sad and worried...

winged patrol
mental shuttle
#

but why? that's horrible

winged patrol
#

it would much much harder to moderate if everyone could use it

#

also every new feature is vrc+ only lmao

mental shuttle
#

but... I guess we can already do it. just would love for it to not be tied to an avatar.

#

that's so sad how that's happening

#

core features should not be...

winged patrol
#

yeah i just hope it doesnt take away from asset creators already making stuff that you add to avatars

#

i dont think it will but still a possibility depending on how they monetize it if they do

mental shuttle
#

😔

winged patrol
#

i've been pretty disappointed lately with everything needing vrc+

mental shuttle
#

almost better to just paywall everything like switching avatar and opening portals and using VR or some shit to force everyone haha.

winged patrol
#

profile pictures, age verification (for now), camera dolly, camera drone, desktop motion tracking

mental shuttle
#

yes, except the first one

winged patrol
#

they DO host my 250+ avatars for free tho and im not really someone who would use any of the other stuff

mental shuttle
#

I dont even get the purpose of that but Im disappointed such core features are dividing people. and VRC+ is expensive and if u are away from VRC you pay for nothing.

#

I'd feel anxiety over that

#

the camera hurts the most cause I make videos in VRC

winged patrol
#

i dont feel like it's core features except for camera dolly

mental shuttle
#

but most if it is ona principal level

winged patrol
#

camera dolly is the big one that TONS of people could find use of

mental shuttle
#

age verification for sure should be

#

and desktop tracking doesnt make sense to paywall... it's not even for VR users, they are suffering enough as it is.

#

luckily I also only have one main avi. I only switch for dancing and roleplaying. and I just wanna add a mic I can spawn and hold.

#

but Im so behind on updating my avi. it's so much work and more difficult now and just to get it back to how it was before. had to start over several times.

#

soon I'll get back to it... but they might release avatar 4.0 before I get there. orz

vocal shard
#

Where do I go to ask questions?

#

I would like to know when VR chat will be available on iOS

honest solar
#

Does anyone else see robots for everyones avatars including the ones you wear (I'm not on safe mode?)

formal sorrel
#

i don't understand why

#

Itsbalso kicking me out of the worlds

devout tangle
devout tangle
sturdy snow
#

MEOW

fair gazelle
#

Bro.

fair gazelle
formal sorrel
#

Meow come and get it baby!!

bold mulch
#

Erm desperate much

obsidian cobalt
#

MEOWWW

#

insane

spark pollen
#

Hi, Im looking for an upgrade
Now I got i5 12600k, rtx 3060ti, ddr4 64gb 3200 mhz RAM

looking to buy
7 7800x3d ,moba, 64 gb 6000mhz RAM (~800eu)
OR
rx7900xtx 24 gb gpu (~800 eu)

which one to buy first? can only go for one now.
whats gonna be better performance increase for vrc
will get both eventually.

serene arrow
sly imp
#

if u change the cpu u'll have a gpu bottleneck having a 3060 ti

serene arrow
#

Should be about 300

sly imp
#

it's better to swap the gpu for one with more vram

#

tho amd ones are not 100% stable and perfect for vr sadly

serene arrow
#

I think they should go with a 90 series card instead

sly imp
#

in the used market u can also find cheap 3000 series gpus rn

serene arrow
#

Yeah your right

#

And for the cpu they are coming out with a Ryzen 5 5500x3d

sly imp
#

a 12600k is a recent, more than decent cpu

#

that will not be an issue, the 3060 ti yes

serene arrow
#

I’d personally recommend probably just upgrading the gpu

sly imp
#

that and the cpu if it's possible in the budget

#

tho the jump from a 12600k to a 12700k or 12900k it's minimal

serene arrow
#

Yeah but they have 900 dollars so I feel like they could buy both right now unless they want to save more

spark pollen
mental shuttle
spark pollen
#

was looking into 5070 ti 9070 xt or 7900 xtx all same price for me basicly

#

with 7900xtx being with whole 24gb and others with 16 gb

mental shuttle
#

Im looking for people who use Oculus Rift with VRC, please DM me if you are or even have it and can test something. orz

spark pollen
earnest cypress
serene arrow
mental shuttle
#

I've been having issues with Rift suddenly since November and I hate it so much. it doesnt make sense cause it only happens with VRC+Rift+my PC (old and new build). been waiting so long for VRC support to get back. last time they replied they just asked if I still have the issue and I'm like yes... Im waiting. orz

#

havent even been able to confirm if VRC has stopped supporting Rift or not in any way. but I've met a guy in VRC who also uses Rift and doesnt have the problem. I've tried so many things including two other Rifts and brought it to my brother's house. it sounds like magic. so just wanna find more people who can confirm and who I can maybe try to copy the setup from and ask about versions etc.

#

...

#

Rift doesnt charge

#

T_T

#

so you got the first Quest or do you think Quest 2 etc is Rift? usually people confuse it with "Oculus", not "Rift". you dont have a Rift.

earnest cypress
#

ok

#

hope u find the help u need

mental shuttle
#

yeah. so u dont know what it is?

#

but at least not a Rift cause it cant charge. it's not standalone.

#

the first Quest had the name Oculus on it for a while only. there are only two Rift and neither are standalone

#

it doesnt. it uses a cable

#

controllers also dont charge cause you use AAs. and that's optimal.

#

also called CV1

#

just look at it and look up names with pictures if you cant find it on it haha

#

it's either Quest 1, Quest 2 or Quest 3, Quest 3S and Pro also exists and like I said Quest 1 was Oculus Quest the at the start so there are two versions but only with the logo being different as far as I know.

#

unless it's not even from Meta or Oculus

#

anyway, again if anyone has Oculus Rift lemme know. orz

#

what?

#

no. if it charges it's not a Rift and I'm only looking for someone with a Rift.

#

but thanks anyway

rapid crypt
#

I need chrome (a vr headset) so I can join these preem BDs (play VRChat)

bitter bone
#

Wonder who deleted their convo with nekotaku lol

#

Makes neko look crazy

ember tundra
broken plover
#

everyone is crazy

vocal shard
sharp saddle
#

There was a conversation?

rapid crypt
#

Moo

chilly karma
#

Any Arabs?

stray temple
#

?tag friends

shy spokeBOT
#

👋 Hello, if you are looking for a place to hangout with someone, try searching on #1204490664637890580 .

We often see scammers and bots posting "looking for friends", "who wants to play", type posts before transitioning into a scam.

⚠️

  • You should always be vigilant when meeting and talking to people that you don't know.
  • Do not accept work of any kind from people you just met.
  • Do not download or run any files from people you just met.
  • Always check links and avoid going to unknown websites or websites that state that they offer something for free.
  • Remember that free cheese is only found in a mouse trap.
plucky bough
#

So are yall gonna address the kishi/ kns community issue?

ember tundra
crystal epoch
sharp saddle
#

True.

#

And I know exactly what video it is...

ember tundra
crystal epoch
river crest
hard oriole
#

What we doing tn?

hard oriole
sage knoll
#

Hi

tacit current
#

Hi?

vestal shore
#

Hi

tame bane
#

Hi

mortal marsh
#

hi

bitter bone
#

Hi!

glad needle
#

Hello does any one know a place where u can find old maps?

stray temple
ancient plover
#

Chat I haven’t been on Vrc for a fucking while and I honestly don’t know how to feel about it

ocean zephyr
devout tangle
#

the what 😭

plucky bough
plucky bough
plucky bough
# sharp saddle And I know *exactly* what video it is...

No no you don't. You assume as such because of your personal issues with whatever creative you're thinking of. And you assume that I'm speaking of said person . And instead of focusing on useless stuff like that you should focus on the topic at hand . I can give two hoots what personal issues you have that's a you problem respectfully and I do not wish to get involved this issue as well as all other threats to minors on the game are more important.

ocean zephyr
#

What is this about? Another jack Thompson gta-impersonation?

ancient plover
#

Ima be real chat I meet everyone here

remote kelp
karmic rose
#

it doesn't matter where people get information

As an ex psychological operations specialist, I absolutely love this notion lmao.

remote kelp
#

Ikr such a smart way of thinking (not)

karmic rose
#

Def made my job easy back in the day

ocean zephyr
#

👀

remote kelp
#

Tupper isn't a dev. Tupper is the community manager

#

He's basically a glorified billboard

karmic rose
stray temple
#

MERC deleting time...

karmic rose
#

Heh.

stray temple
karmic rose
#

Time for Merc to delete ||cheeseburger||

stray temple
karmic rose
#

Yeah u wish u had my burger.

So do I though. Because there is no burger

Q.Q

#

I had gnocchi today instead

stray temple
karmic rose
#

Oooh. What one?

#

Bacon king?

#

I get bacon king with onion rings, onion, mayo and jalapenos. And then give my dog the bacon.

BK gets a lot of hate but I think they're way better than McDonald's. Bacon King is same price as a big Mac...

stray temple
karmic rose
#

McDonald's chips are indeed some of the best.

#

Only thing they really do well

stray temple
#

xd
yeap

karmic rose
#

We don't have that shit here.

stray temple
#

in Europe, Chicken burger is usually better so beef burger be rare to be better.

ocean zephyr
#

That's the UK though

stray temple
#

IIRC, some other nations may has it

ocean zephyr
#

It's been ages since I went to BK but I would be surprised if they sell it like that over here 👀

karmic rose
#

How much is it?

stray temple
ocean zephyr
stray temple
#

yeah

karmic rose
#

Your guys stuff looks hella good

ocean zephyr
#

It's all about angry, lol

karmic rose
#

We had similar stuff a while ago as the angry stuff as promo. But the rest of your menu is wild

#

Nothing cool

stray temple
#

huh.....kind of decent not inspired.

karmic rose
#

Time for a flight to the UK

stray temple
karmic rose
#

I mean it's still good but way lacking compared to ur menus

ocean zephyr
#

When you're done, come to Belgium... UK is nice for the eyes, less for the stomach 😏

old stump
#

im now angry and hungry. hangry.

stray temple
karmic rose
#

Real tho. It's sadly like that with a lot of our fast food. KFC for instance here in the US is horrid compared to almost everywhere else.

stray temple
#

sad

karmic rose
#

They know they don't have to do anything and people will keep buying here

#

BK in Japan was really cool too

ocean zephyr
karmic rose
#

When I was in Japan BK had all these black burgers and black stuff. Was odd but least it was unique lmao

stray temple
ocean zephyr
#

Looks weird but enticing

karmic rose
#

It was so off putting but tasted totally fine. Least it was unique. The meat and everything was well put together.

ocean zephyr
#

Now if I made black burgers, usually there's black smoke and I microwaved it for too long and too hard 👀

stray temple
#

charcoal? into flour....ah....

karmic rose
#

Yeah lmao. Was back in 2014

#

The onions were colored black using squid ink.

#

The cheese and buns used charcoal.

stray temple
#

ic

karmic rose
#

Guess the ketchup used squid ink too

stray temple
#

likely

ocean zephyr
#

Next time I have black burgers, I will tell them that in Japan they like it 👀

#

And that I just made exotic food 😇😏

karmic rose
#

Lol

devout tangle
#

does twitter publicly address people breaking tos? does discord? no, they dont

wanton oak
karmic rose
wanton oak
#

what the what

#

i just got into vrc today like 2 hours ago they have to ban people?!

devout tangle
karmic rose
devout tangle
wanton oak
karmic rose
#

Lmao

wanton oak
#

i dont even use my mic

karmic rose
#

I was a mute for like the first two years playing lmao

wanton oak
#

me soon

karmic rose
#

Suddenly started talking and jump scared all my friends. Now I can't shut up

devout tangle
wanton oak
#

LOL thats so real

#

i am so scared of ppl in vrc💔

devout tangle
#

lowkey real

karmic rose
wanton oak
#

someone snuck up on me while i was tryna figure out how to leave the game

devout tangle
#

ppl r always like "ermmm how can u have social anxiety on the internet" completely ignoring why social anxiety is a thing

wanton oak
#

and i got so scared

devout tangle
devout tangle
#

and ppl online are more judgemental than irl

wanton oak
#

its in the name

devout tangle
#

yepyep

wanton oak
#

..

devout tangle
#

no

karmic rose
# devout tangle and ppl online are more judgemental than irl

That's why ya gotta just not take anything seriously. There is the whole anonymity aspect so people are willing to be very open and blunt or mean and hateful or whatever. There's no immediate recourse to their actions. They're saying it because they can. So it's best to learn to mute/block or just laugh off their stupidity and move on.

devout tangle
#

yea

wanton oak
#

i just agree with everything they say to make them feel dumb

#

it’s so funny

karmic rose
#

oh you did my mom? That's so cool

devout tangle
#

not to mention how pathetic it is to make fun of people on vrchat lol

wanton oak
#

LOL fr😭😭😭

devout tangle
wanton oak
#

right

karmic rose
#

Lmao I love that one. Mocking vrchat users for playing VRchat or being furry while they're in vrchat themselves, surrounded by furries. Like bro, you're here too

wanton oak
#

i lowk only dress as Hinata Hyuga

wanton oak
karmic rose
#

Projection at its finest. A lot of the time they honestly don't mean shit they say.

A very good friend of mine used to constantly hate on gay people and furries.

Now he's a hyper gay furry.

I've seen that arc soooo many times in vrc.

wanton oak
#

LOL that is genuinely so funny

karmic rose
#

It's a form of self defense and projection. They aren't trying to actually be hateful, they're trying to distance themselves from their own internal feelings.

wanton oak
#

But i was playing earlier, and people are very mean. Then some are also very nice

karmic rose
wanton oak
karmic rose
#

I mean some people are def just hateful. But there is absolutely a type that is quite prevalent that is just confused with their own feelings.

wanton oak
karmic rose
#

I will say tho, if you let people get to you, they will often latch onto that because you're feeding into their energy.

If you dismiss it, show it means nothing to you. They will almost always move on.

#

It's also almost always literal children. So never let a child get to u

wanton oak
autumn kraken
#

Random story. So one time a grown ass woman who was the owner somehow got her math wrong with asking my age and birth year in a 18+ server. I told them 18, 07, and they said "Yeah that makes sense." Which I'm not sure if it's supposed to be sarcastic or not? And I was somehow kicked immediately after?

I'm genuinely baffled. How does one not know litteral addition. 😭

wanton oak
#

Thats so odd……I hate people who assume right off the bat

autumn kraken
karmic rose
#

I absolutely love people who "verify" people's age by asking their age and dob like nobody can ever lie.

Way back in the day when IDs didn't exist this was the norm for bars and it was very common for kids to gamble and drink...

#

Any server that does that is not the place u wanna be.

worn kelp
devout tangle
#

yep

half plinth
#

helloo

marsh badger
obsidian cobalt
#

meowwwwww

hybrid citrus
#

hey not sure where i should ask questions but is there any way to make it so that i can only use one vr controller?

remote kelp
#

Any bar group that doesn't use vrc age verification as a buffer imo is kinda dumb

hybrid citrus
#

my hand tracking is a little weird and displays the wrong things when holding the remote but i really like using no controllers because i can express my fingers how i want

#

but its hard to move without controllers so i was curious if there was a way to use one controller and one hand tracking at the same time

remote kelp
remote kelp
hybrid citrus
#

maan

obsidian cobalt
#

but certainly a little more frustrating than hand tracking bc you can only use the one

half hearth
tardy tundra
#

hey guys whats the reward you get at the end of the month for gifting vrc+? do we know? :,3

sharp saddle
tardy tundra
sharp saddle
#

Your message is missing the context of if you gifted or not, I'm erring on the side of you did.

tardy tundra
#

i have the wand

#

but i haven't gifted

sharp saddle
#

Hm.

tardy tundra
#

id gift if i knew what the reward it says you get is

sharp saddle
#

The gift is just stickers and emoji.

#

Everyone, I guess, gets the wand.

bitter bone
#

Pretty sure gift is like a badge too, no?

#

A badge for pride supporter or something

sharp saddle
#

The badge is part of the event, yeah.

#

But the "mystery gift" is stickers/emoji.

bitter bone
#

ahh

river cape
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Why is the vrchat ui getting so complicated?

sharp saddle
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?

crystal epoch
# sharp saddle ?

The settings menu is really complicated imo. Just a giant list of all the settings kinda hard to find stuff in VR and then the search not having tags to find settings outside of their names makes it more confusing.

karmic rose
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OGs remember how simple and performant the old menu was lol

winged patrol
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the feather menus really help but navigating to a newly uploaded avatar takes entirely too many clicks

severe dew
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New menu sucks.
I dont wanna spawn on the market place every time.

iron birch
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are you referring to me??

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oh haha thanks?

ember tundra
carmine stirrup
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Am I allowed to share discord servers in here?

carmine stirrup
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Ok

winged patrol
bitter bone
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<@&397642795457970181>

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Thx mods

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What a fuckin joke jfc

stray temple
bitter bone
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You were just fast enough that my discord report didn’t go through 😅

stray temple
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still waiting my room to cool down enough to go to bed....

bitter bone
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My car at some point said 99F today leading me to believe it was actually 100 today

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🥴

stray temple
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oh dear...

karmic rose
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Same here. Way too hot. Fk summer

mental shuttle
mortal marsh
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oh deer,

brisk girder
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Awwwrrr

mortal marsh
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yip

vocal shard
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uhhh thats horrible you might want to open a ticket and tell the mods there so they see it #discord-tickets

worldly path
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Yes, that’s what I’m going to do now

vapid jungle
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Hm

bitter bone
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I hated that every time you visit the site you’re forced to click login but noticed a specific link to the site skipped that 👀

mental shuttle
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I have a lot of shortcuts I've made

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you can also customize the icon to look like an app

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to switch to an open tab you pick the "open tab group" then "switch to tab". so first make a new tab group where you always keep it open.

sand mountain
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Hey guys

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How are yall doing

bleak terrace
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where can i go to report someone

severe dew
bleak terrace
stray temple
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make ticket from website

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(thanks Arte)

bleak terrace
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i have proof and everything

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with their usernames

stray temple
bleak terrace
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maybe tmrw

stray temple
deep atlas
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what can chat give insight about self development practices irl? give any tips

vocal shard
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Do Yk what to put in the tv player to play movies in the popcorn world? Please help

sharp saddle
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If you're asking how to access that side of the world... no one will tell you here.

sinful echo
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So is tupper gonna answer the allegations or nah

sharp saddle
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What allegations? 👀

sinful echo
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The ones about him protecting a known pedo group on VrChat

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Ill probably get banned for briging it up but im not on any specific side. Just wanted to know if he made a video or statement about it.

humble apex
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vr gen chat 2 superiority

karmic rose
# sinful echo The ones about him protecting a known pedo group on VrChat

Surely ya realize tupper is just the community manager. Vrchat itself has a long history of mass ban waves including mass bannings of "littles" groups, users and their worlds as well as similar content. Alt detection isn't perfect and content is user generated in very large quantities so it's up to users to submit proper reports with information of TOS violations for moderation staff to act on.

Tupper likely can't protect anyone realistically as he's not a moderator nor does he own vrchat and that notion seems to ignore the long history of taking widespread action against those forms of people, content and groups.

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Tupper is the community manager. Not a dev

sinful echo
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Well how can it be talked about at all without specifics?

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Bottom line, all I asked was if tupper had addressed it or made a statement at all

karmic rose
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People misunderstand his roles because he's often the one who makes posts and news articles, etc. he has no reason to address something not related to him.

If you have documented proof of TOS violations within vrchat, submit a report instead of complaining

sinful echo
tall plaza
sinful echo
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Nah, frank hassle rage gauge

sinful echo
karmic rose
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No. #moderation-reports

You need proof. You need information. It needs to be a TOS violation within vrchat.

sinful echo
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Good to go! Thank you

outer gust
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Hello

severe dew
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Well a bit of misconception here But usually vrc team members reports or requests get prioritised first.
But overall different departments handle different things.
Community managers handle community moderation is separate and development is separate.

lone shale
obsidian valley
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Happy Canada day, anyone..? ;w;

median aspen
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Happy fucking Canada day

obsidian valley
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:3

median aspen
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Wasup man