vrchat-general-2

[cyan falcon]

I dont mind

[bronze bough]

Then that must mean I should catch you since your name is pikachan🥱🤔

[floral spoke]

my user is the same as my name here ^

[drowsy terrace]

They're not fertilized, my friend hatches the fertilized eggs and sells ducklings to other farmers

[cyan falcon]

My husband will wish to fight you for me then lmao. He be link from Legend of zelda
@floral spoke Yep, its an i not an L

[earnest chasm]

my other babies

[bronze bough]

Real talk though no banter did you think I was a Pokémon nerd?lmao

[pure sun]

no one eat rosiekins, @earnest chasm pretty based in here

[cyan falcon]

Do you eat honey since you are a bear?

[cyan falcon]

I thought your icon was trainer gold/silver from the pokemon games lmao

[earnest chasm]

blessed 😇 but please end me. its so hard for Gods to die

[cyan falcon]

I want to eat their babies

[drowsy terrace]

I love honey! My favorite kind is creamed honey. So good for spreading on toast!

[pure sun]

[earnest chasm]

[cyan falcon]

The eggs, I meant their eggs

[bronze bough]

Oh is it lol? I got this shit off of a random tik tok for matching couple picks that was in my fyp lmao

[earnest chasm]

okay but hear me out

[honest valley]

too bad, you have been promoted to the duck of the server

[pure sun]

eggs are pretty tasty tho

[earnest chasm]

https://www.corkforkandtable.com/glazed-duck-breast/

[earnest chasm]

oh my, makes sense i *am * Kami Desu

[cyan falcon]

XD. Thats what a pokemon trainer who thinks Im not a pokemon trainer would say. Hm Sus

[pure sun]

i no eat rosie, but duck confit pretty delicious, or roasted duck with rice

[cyan falcon]

I wanna try duck eggs.

[bronze bough]

Are there people with elf ears in the land of Pokémon

[drowsy terrace]

duck fat is so tasty, duck fat fries are like an addictive drug

[pure sun]

im sure there is some pokemon fan fic out there that suits those needs lol

[cyan falcon]

There could be, Anyone can be a pokemon trainer.

[earnest chasm]

<.< >.> dances enticingly im deeeelicious!

[cyan falcon]

F-u that sounds good.
@pure sun omg.

[pure sun]

I actually ate out at a place pretty recently that uses duck fat for fries, and it was literally the apex of fries consumption lol

[drowsy terrace]

They're very similar to chicken eggs, but the yolk is richer. They're fantastic for baked goods, and also really great for things like fried rice.

[cyan falcon]

Damn you both I want duck eggs now @drowsy terrace

[bronze bough]

Wah wait a minute who are you your name was different a moment ago owo

[drowsy terrace]

Ok ok but hear me out.... what about duck fat fries, turned into poutine? I would throw money at that.

[pure sun]

Yeah i switched it to suit the server. I dont talk in here, but now i am talking so, hey, im jackie XD

[earnest chasm]

Alright family, i'm off. be safe, time for me to be consumed by Osu

[bronze bough]

Hiiii jackiie

[pure sun]

you're going to break the universe with these crazy world changing ideas

[cyan falcon]

I will consume you betch

[bronze bough]

For some reason one of my vr sons wants to get me a vr mom-

[pure sun]

see ya rosie! nice chatting with ya, have a good and safe day

[drowsy terrace]

More like break my waistband, but hey if I make a dish so delicious that reality unravels, I'm gonna say it was probably worth it LOL

[earnest chasm]

only if ur legal, i can only be properly consumed by adults 😇 @pure sun you too! bye bye uwu

[cyan falcon]

I am old enough lmao

[bronze bough]

Kinda Sus but okay lol

[cyan falcon]

you be kind of sus, mr pokemon trainer

[ornate hearth]

i just got an anti cheat error and i dont even know why i dont use mods

[bronze bough]

No u

[cyan falcon]

No U

[bronze bough]

No me

[cyan falcon]

Nope

[bronze bough]

Yes

[full sail]

Eyyyy gen2 back to being gen2. Gotta love it~

[honest valley]

gen2 now belongs to the ducks

[full sail]

...why did that ... phone please... but also yes

[bronze bough]

🙂

[pure sun]

duck power! 🦆

[full sail]

Just a bunch of regular ducks,
Just a bunch of regular ducks,
Just a bunch of regular ducks,
Working in a cafe~!
won't lie, the duck/goose park world someone showed me is probably up there in my favorites

It's silly and quiet

[tulip storm]

Frfr

[primal turret]

I'm looking to do some OSC projects, and I've been struggling to figure out some unique features an avatar can have. Can anyone share any avatar features that were really cool that they've run into?

[pure sun]

be cool to have a database and library then build like a repository for people to upload their assets as "props" and have an inventory system. im not much for undering the background of OSC, but i have seen phones working and going cross server and worlds and functioning, while also seeing linking to outside devices like IRL smart phones with apps as well. It would be a cool feature to have inventory systems where you can upload your own assets to it, and pull them out as needed, but if that cant be done, then I dunno, possibly a character editor? like skyrim, with sliders to adjust your shape of face, body, etc on the fly and being able to keep those settings in real time, possibly to a phone app or an outside app to control it. again, im only going off what ive seen made so far, but im no developer, just giving ideas

[rancid jewel]

heartbeat visible in eyes, or something else like a monitor
speech to text (to speech)
performance stats (like ram usage)
various keyboards
heres some to start

[primal turret]

@pure sun @rancid jewel Thanks so much!!!

[cunning cairn]

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[full sail]

Having a toggle to see an avi's eye color pulse softly would be pretty neat.

[cunning cairn]

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[full sail]

Not this channel friend~

[cunning cairn]

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[pure sun]

I was actually thinking of building a base avatar for male and female, and building a slider type system like in skyrim where you can adjust face, eyes, body shape, etc etc. on the fly and it would work with a specific avatar. then i was going to build a template file for other avatars could get converted to it, then you could just build your avatar as usual with hair, clothes, etc. but the avatar itself could be adjusted in real time for use with everyone. basically i wanted to solve real time customization for people who do not work in 3d as a whole. sadly, i dont have time because people keep throwing work at me and im working on my own projects that are taking time, so if you can make that work, that would be pretty neato. so free idea, its all yours lol

[cunning cairn]

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[pure sun]

lmao i think they got their hands full with putting out fires. it can be built i think in theory with OSC, but until i can do a deep dive with it, its just theory now. but I wanted it personally. advanced feature creep features would be saving body modifiation templates, but again, all theory and just ideas thrown at the board lol

[cunning cairn]

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[stone sun]

Can I still use/download play space mover for vrchat?

[full ruin]

If it’s a mod that is an external file you have to download then no

[spark thistle]

Me and my friend only see our fallbacks is anyone else having that issue. We’re on quest

[full ruin]

Try #quest-general or #user-support-old

[magic vessel]

dual

[junior sluice]

Even with safety settings completely off. The quest can only auto display avatars of medium performance or better. Anthing less than that requires you to manually show avatars

[magic vessel]

do me a favor and spam me with random letters/emojis real quick @junior sluice or anyone

[junior sluice]

Hm? Sure.

@magic vessel done. Get what you wanted?

[magic vessel]

awesomeee thank you cutieeee

[junior sluice]

Lol. Np

[real loom]

Play space mover through OVR Advanced Settings isn’t a mod and is a SteamVR overlay application. VRChat has stated in the past that these are okay.

[stone sun]

Tyy

[feral aurora]

Hey guys. Me and my friends are looking for some really fun interactive worlds to play! We mainly like maps that feel like their own games, like “The Devouring” and The Backrooms. Would love some suggestions!

[tardy badger]

Have you gone through 'Organism' yet? It's not a game per se, but is a lot of fun to explore.

[gritty pendant]

I use to go to a mmd dancing world with friends but after the update or something idk what I cant join that world anymoe even a private one it just kicks me back to my home world- h e l p

[sharp saddle]

https://i.etsystatic.com/22385913/r/il/3a3a14/2777158725/il_fullxfull.2777158725_54ir.jpg

[gritty pendant]

s a d lol

[feral aurora]

yes we have!

[torpid shadow]

I have a theory that vrchat is being sold to a buyer somewhere. First eac so suddenly, then trying to please people afterwards while still cracking down on eac so that they can keep eac AND a player base, and now cracking down on NSFW avatars. It looks like they got money for adding eac as like, an act of good faith, then had to do damage control so vrc would still be worth money, and now it's trying to crack down on the inappropriate aspects of it so it can be sold. Eac belongs to epic, and there's been rumors of a vrc clone being made through unreal engine.......or is it just vrchat?

And as for the arguments about NSFW being not allowed. There's a checkmark for NSFW in the official vrc sdk, and there's a tip screen saying they're allowed in private. It's only recently that it's now being said that it's not allowed whatsoever

[quartz fog]

It's literally never been "allowed", they just turn a blind eye to it because if there's no report, there's no action required to be taken.

Have you actually ever read the community guidelines or the TOS?

[strange shuttle]

Will we be receiving a developer update for today?

[haughty lily]

If an Unreal version of VRC is made, how different will it be when setting up and uploading avatars using Unreal ?

[quartz fog]

I'm 99.9% certain VRChat will never move engines so.. this is something you will never have to worry about.

[misty onyx]

The server is being spammed so much that discord isn't sending a single notification from the vrc server outside discord.

[dire flint]

Heyy
Scottish here
Just having lil 15min break from VR
Any1 looking for new chats n mates

[meager solstice]

#vrchat-general-1 message

[gleaming spruce]

isnt vrc adding an in-game chat

[meager solstice]

no one said that

they r adding tts and stt tho, if thats what u mean?

[gleaming spruce]

hmm, must be rumors then update: yup it's true

[meager solstice]

i mean u can read the announcements to see what they have planned

[gleaming spruce]

fair

[spark thistle]

Okay I’ll try that. Thanks

[frozen fulcrum]

@polar rivet mir prv

[wind cipher]

Does anyone know a server with a bunch of public bots?

[polar rivet]

No te tengo agregado por lo tanto no me llega nada

[gleaming spruce]

it's like speech bubbles. tts is gunna be a thing tho. lets hope there's different voices

[frozen fulcrum]

agregame

[silk berry]

do we still care about EAC?

[gleaming spruce]

yes

[wind cipher]

Yo

[gleaming spruce]

not only it gets rid of useful utilities like anti-crashers but more importantly, it effects performance negatively

[wind cipher]

Ye people do it left a scar that won’t heal

[obtuse wadi]

linkpop.com/metal

[meager solstice]

how much frames u lose?

[gleaming spruce]

about 30-60

depends if steamvr wants to play nice with me now

[obsidian tapir]

Remember how they turned a blind eye on mods?

[gleaming spruce]

i do recall that they dont care about nsfw in private places. just not in public

[obsidian tapir]

Isn't there a loading screen message that tells you to keep NSFW stuff in private? Literally

[high rain]

There's no way to write an automated scanner that detects NSFW avatars in the first place, so they literally have no way to know about it besides someone seeing and reporting it

[vocal shard]

My gesture’s in vrchat havent been working for days. It’s not gesture locked in expressions menu and i’ve had this issue before but usually just restarting fixed it. But not even fully deleting the game and reinstalling it helps. Anyone had the same issue before?

my hands just don’t move lol

The loading screen doesn't say it's okay in private. It says not to share pictures or stream from private.

[gleaming spruce]

are you on quest?

[vocal shard]

Index

[gleaming spruce]

can't help. i have no idea besides the thought of vrc being buggy or controllers being janky

[vocal shard]

i’ve also been getting a weirder bug, where everytime i join a new world, the loading screen where the button to initialise the world is gets further and further away every-time i join a new world. After about the third time it’s to far away to see. My game is really messed up atm

[obsidian tapir]

Eh I stopped reading those long time ago, but when you know what the game originally was supposed to be, I'd be surprised if they act against NSFW content.

[vocal shard]

NSFW will continue to be treated the same as it has been for years. Nothing has changed

[obsidian tapir]

I know that, I personally always had a cringe feeling with this type of content anyways.

[gleaming spruce]

i just laugh whenever i walk among one. they're really good for jokes.

[obsidian tapir]

I mean if you're in private, you do you.

[vocal shard]

Anyone want to talk in vc?

[quartz fog]

One is also harder to moderate than the other 😉

[obsidian tapir]

Kinda

[hazy chasm]

ah yes telling people their game might be unstable and their account could be at risk installing mods is more difficult than combating child grooming

[quartz fog]

That's.. not what I said. Moderating avatars isn't easy when you've got tons of content uploaded, but moderating TOS-breaking client mods is easy with anti-tamper methods.

[vast halo]

@covert chasm weird suggestion, but if STT is going to cost VRChat, why not make it a VRC+ only feature? Sure it's a disability tool, but TTS and TTT would be available for free (i'm assuming), so STT could be an added luxury for VRC+ users. Not sure if viable for long term maintinance

[prisma plinth]

I agree with this
definitely beats going through the pain of microsoft azure and google cloud lol

[vast halo]

it would also give me another reason to purchase VRC+, because the current reasons are really not enticing other than more favorites, but I sport only 2 avatars. I also simply bypass this by uploading my own / the packages to avatars I like are already out there on free websites

[prisma plinth]

I actually have a set up where I translate my voice to text and then back to speech but its pretty janky

[vast halo]

i personally just speak ingame, i just happened to notice the blog post and made a suggestion; wouldn't be of use to me

[prisma plinth]

even mods that did this in the past weren't too great so seeing native support for this would be great

[vast halo]

ofc and you probably had to supply your own API key for whatever STT service they used (if not OS-agonistic)

[prisma plinth]

would be to me though lol thats how I communicate

very surprised at how less chaotic this channel is

[vast halo]

it wasn't when the eac update first came out

[pulsar bane]

The devs are doing amazing listening!! The only other thing id like is an avatar search feature <3 keep it up yall!

[prisma plinth]

yeah 100% I'm so used to other game companies completely ignoring anything the community has to say so this feels nice even tho eac isn't great

[cerulean cobalt]

Can you imagine the backlash they'd get if they did this...

[vast halo]

respectively, STT costs money. Even the free solutions would rely on free trials off of STT APIs (or shitty OS solutions), and this would be compatible on windows, mac/linux(proton/steamdeck), and oculus (android)

the quality of paid STT along with a proper and reliable 3rd party service and VRChat paying off that cost to develop and maintain it by making it paywalled behind vrc+
it's a decision that only makes sense, as from a free mod standpoint the mod creator does not have to maintain shit, as each individual user providers their own api access/account to use whereas VRChat provides a professional solution with regularly maintenance and upkeep; you'd also get all the other perks of VRC+. If you're disabled and need to communicate: you'd still have TTS and TTT to use for free. I wouldn't complain personally

Or, VRChat can implement it for free and require users to link their own api accounts for whatever service they use, and the user pays their own cost for their STT usage

[wintry herald]

do you not realise how bad that would make them look

[cerulean cobalt]

I totally agree with you, it makes sense, but I can't imagine any world in which the community doesn't throw a fit 😛

It's unfortunate there isn't a cross platform solution that is high quality without cloud rubbish.

[vast halo]

i understand but it's one of those things where VRChat will probably choose to paywall it or trash the feature alltogether for PR

It's unfortunate there isn't a cross platform solution that is high quality without cloud rubbish.
i'm sure there is, however they probably have crazy licensing requirements like: 1 Developer, 1 Deployment, $8999/year along with a bunch of other hidden terms

[prisma plinth]

wouldn't mind paying for an api key directly or whatever if everything is handled inside of vrchat... thats how the mods work anyways

[silk bear]

will I get banned for having alt accounts?

[vast halo]

if you don't talk about having alt accounts maybe you won't

[pure jolt]

Lol I mean Machine Learning is a thing. I learned about this last semester of college.

[cerulean cobalt]

Curious if they'll go with the sender generating the sound or the receiver. Guess it'll depend on the provider.

[prisma plinth]

youtube is a prime example of why that would not work

[vast halo]

this is a topic i've touched on personally. It's possible. However, VRChat doesn't have the skilled developers needed, and maintaining such a system would blow their current costs by a mile

it would probably be easier to hire a content moderation team for any new uploads, and simply restricting the amount of avatars that can be uploaded at a given time period by the user to prevent burnout or overwhelming queues

[vast halo]

that's also something that could be abused if the receiver was generating audio. their audio costs could go up a lot.

VRChat could also simply choose to make it a PC-only feature and stick with WSR

[cerulean cobalt]

Oh sorry, I'm talking TTS not STT 😛 wrong way around.

Has anyone tried the generic Android subtitle support. Pretty sure you can generate subtitles for any audio source in Android these days, curious if it could work on the quest.

[prisma plinth]

this is a free option that I use https://webcaptioner.com/captioner
it works only with chrome for obvious reasons but it handles both tts and stt for free
and I would love to see a vrchat equivalent :)

[vast halo]

Oh fair

touching on the nsfw avatar topic; i think if vrchat did start moderating nsfw content that's where the community rift would truly start

majority (not all, not all), adults that play this game would probably move to CVR imo as like 80% of avatars uploaded are considered "nsfw" even if they aren't intended to be (as per vrchat's guidelines); and a good % of the community uses this game for the sad reality of finding love in VR

[prisma plinth]

yeah compared to eac that is like opening pandora's box lol

[vast halo]

yeah; all the major avatar worlds would start going down

iirc vrchat considers meshes that can be taken off as "nsfw". the whole clothing has to be the body mesh itself and you shouldn't be able to see through clothes or toggle off clothes to see a body or something that resembles a body

of course this topic gets extremely touchy. what is considered nsfw/pornography. Does a robot with a shape coming between its two legs resembling a crotch but is in fact a gun count as NSFW? Could be a character from a japanese children's show

Does importing a 3D-scan of a well known pornstar/nsfw artist count as nsfw, even if the actual depicted art isn't nsfw, but showing the image around could be considered "malicious" towards children (at least from a parent pov, i wouldn't want my kids to see reiley reid in VR)

i think there's a solid reason vrchat hasn't even bothered touching avatars/world moderation yet. they definetly keep a close watch on what happens, but for good reason they stay away from messing with that community

a HUGE percentage of content creators on this game make a profit selling nsfw content on gumroad/payhip/booth/deviantart/comissions/etc. That would all be taken away, and that ENTIRE area of the community would be moved to CVR

[high rain]

Ask Tumblr how that worked out for them

[vast halo]

Does a world depicting contents from a bar/club/street club/nightclub considered NSFW, even if no NSFW is happening, no NSFW is depicted, or NSFW is against the world's guidelines?

[prisma plinth]

I dont think its an issue until people who invest in vrchat see it as an issue

[vast halo]

^ and that would primarily be HTC(iirc)

[vast halo]

forrrr example....FBT Haven, Club <anything here>, Avatar worlds, Dancing worlds (the majority off; not all)

the topic of moderation on vrchat really comes from what they want to go with the game. do they want a safe social environment for everybody, or are they looking to be the ROBLOX of VR, because things will start to get strict

more and more kids are on vrchat due to the ease of access of the oculus quest and other handheld devices like the steam deck, and the prices of GPUs going down recently

[high rain]

...and then, consider that the machine learning problem here would be infinitely harder because it would need to interpret geometry and shaders instead of a 2d image

[vast halo]

and also implementing the avatar and it's various different toggles (if not toggles, the meshes it has, different objects even if invisible, purpose of avatar, depicting anything considered hate speech nsfw etc). How would this ML/AI determine if an avatar if an avatar depicts racism or blackface, or if it's genuinely a dark themed avatar

if even developed for a reasonable price, maintaining and running this level of equipment on a scale that can upkeep with the content constantly being uploaded, and content already uploaded to VRChat would be next to impossible

[high rain]

Like, if you solved this problem, don't use it for VRChat. Sell it to the highest bidder for ten billion dollars

[vast halo]

then you'd have studios and copyright holders wanting a system for content-id, or automatic DMCA, because people do abuse vrchat with other people's content and worked. From audio, songs, meshes, textures, 3d models, themes, and characters.

[prisma plinth]

even that is cheap lmao

[vast halo]

I remember once a Jinx (from League of Legends) model was uploaded and next thing you know Riot Games is pissed off about it

[desert stratus]

there was a really ranty series of tweets from someone who was either a vrchat dev or a HIKKY employee (HIKKY = Virtual Market parent company) elaborating a lot on vrchat's current monetization. from what I remember most of their investor money comes from HIKKY at the moment and unless that changes I dont think the current way that VRChat handles things is going to change much (which is, NSFW is absolutely not allowed according to TOS but because they cant reasonably enforce it most people still treat it as out of sight, out of mind, including moderators)

[vast halo]

the worlds themed around spider man would dissapear
VR Cards Against Humanity would dissapear for NSFW and content violation
VR Uno would dissapear or rebranded to "VR 8-Card Game"

[desert stratus]

i can see the vrchat team adding actual moderation tools and maybe an official age verification game-wide or per-instance (or both) in the future. theyre not gonna make the game adult only since a lot of their playerbase is underage even without factoring in quest users, and i dont think they want to make an adult-only game either.

[vast halo]

accepting that NSFW is uploaded (twitter) and allowing users to mark their content as NSFW and "Not made for kids"; and then simply filtering it out via age restrictions on actual ID verifications would work

youtube, fb, twitter, and microsoft have all done this

[prisma plinth]

I'm not to knowledgeable when it comes to nsfw vrchat suff but what if they created a slight paywall for it? Kinda like how tf2 requires you to spend a few cents to avoid bots. Jimmy's mom isn't going to allow her credit card to be used for adult vrchat otherwise thats the parent's fault lmao.

[desert stratus]

as seen by pretty much every major platform including tumblr, NSFW is not the kind of content that can just be enforced directly. i kinda said this in other general earlier but it requires as much community effort to manage as it does technical measures (like age limits or better moderator tools). vrchat definitely needs the latter since not even the bare minimum is there, but its ultimately pointless if nobody on the community side gives a shit. ive been told from sketchier friends of mine that adult communities on this game already do some pretty strict age enforcing on their own and take that shit seriously, at least i hope. they just have to do everything third party since vrchat offers no secure solutions themselves which, understandibly, puts a lot of people off from joining them.

[vast halo]

that would work but i'm not sure how it could be applied effectively

[desert stratus]

a friend of mine suggested adding a one-time fee (not vrc+ exclusive) to do the usual age verification of submitting a valid ID from your country that gets immediately discarded as soon as its verified.

[coarse fog]

You can't moderate others. Only yourself. If you personally don't make it a problem for others, then I think you're fine.

[vast halo]

besides no offense but there are a LOT of minors on this game that consume nsfw content, and they can easily find the funds to do it.

the majority of people who publish nsfw aren't even adults themselves (i didn't say create, i said publish)

[prisma plinth]

It would at least make it slightly harder though just so people dont accidentally stumble upon it. You would have to actively seek it out instead.

[coarse fog]

The minors who do, are the result of bad patenting not knowing that their child could be viewing that material. Like the ESRB, things have ratings for a reason.

[desert stratus]

you absolutely can moderate others and you definitely should. you dont even need dedicated moderator roles depending on the type of community you create, just a culture that says were not going to put up with underage people getting sketchy and adults trying to get sketchy with underage people. no weird gen-z repackaged puritanism or "im not gonna take responsibility" repackaged into some weird sense of independence required.

[vast halo]

and also providing silent locks. such as preventing NSFW filled worlds from being available on the frontpage. Silently shadowbanning FBT Heaven from showing up apart from Search and joining off friends could work

[prisma plinth]

damn you type fast

[desert stratus]

its the MX blues dude 0u0

[coarse fog]

Average 80wpm is the average here honestly.

"Here", being where I live.

[vast halo]

age verification is extremely hard to implement as there aren't that many good services out there that'll do it, and no way to verify if documents are real without those services

[daring lark]

hii

[vast halo]

for example Stripe Identity only includes like 15 or so countries, our of which i believe UK isn't one of them, which sucks because a good amount of playerbase comes from there

[prisma plinth]

I feel like if it gets to a point where billy the 6y/o with a quest can't accidentally come across nsfw content that would be at least a bit better

[desert stratus]

which is why its not the only way that this sort of thing can be managed on the technical side of things 0u0. like yeah age verification isnt easy to do right while also being secure, thats why i dont trust communities built around it that do it themselves even if they have no other choice because vrchat doesnt want to do it.

[vast halo]

Passport One has 30 or so countries but missing some major european ones
The majority of these services are lacking some type of feature that make them a bad combat. Some don't even support the Asia region at all. Some asian countries don't allow foreign companies to do verification against their databases like that
Roblox combatted this by investing half of their money into moderation

[prisma plinth]

id verification would be a horrible idea

[vast halo]

ID verification based off of a transaction wouldn't work either, because 16, even 14 year olds can open bank accounts nowadays

[daring lark]

ok what about real ID?

[vast halo]

and it doesn't take much to walk into a store to buy a prepaid with cash, or open a cashapp account in the US and get their prepaid card. There are far too many ways kids get ahold of cards, or have joint accounts with parents

[vast halo]

that's what I'm talking about. There's no way for VRChat to verify it's real or not without using an identity service. Identity services are lacking in features, as VRChat is globally available, and also cost a fuckton

[prisma plinth]

at that point they are actively trying to circumvent content restrictions which is different from accidentally seeing something you dont want to (thats the point im trying to make at least)

[daring lark]

what about making the whole game 18+?

[vast halo]

I believe passport one is $3 per verification, regardless if it's successful or failed. If you take into account how many users are playing vrc rn, that would mean about 60k verifications (not including all)

[vast halo]

Kills out the entire oculus market.
Did the math: 3 * 60k = $180,000 in successful verififcations. Not including repeat attempts, offline users, users who don't pay, etc

[daring lark]

so there's no way to win

[prisma plinth]

doesnt seem like it no
compromises have to come up somewhere

[vast halo]

yes, but have you seen minors (?)
the adults aren't the ones contributing to this problem so it's extremely hard to just make it

[daring lark]

is there no example that can be used from another game? why do we have to reinvent the wheel for this? How's it work for secondlife

[vast halo]

it's one of those issues where even if VRChat completely banned all 18+ people it would not work as the majority of these content creators are between 15-18 uploading NSFW content

[daring lark]

and vrc doesn't make more than that?

[desert stratus]

not an easy solution either way. if vrchat tried to double down on either making the game adult only or absolutely no NSFW at all, what would that even look like? never mind where do you draw the line, there are multiple lines to be drawn across all sorts of technical and moderated fronts of how you determine who is of age or not, what is NSFW content or not, what youre doing at the sdk level or at the oh-shit-its-on-our-databases-already level, etc.

also to add, i think the reason why second life isnt around anymore is because it didnt work for it iirc wait nvm just remembered its still around im dumb

[prisma plinth]

this is all just thinking about hypotheticals
there isn't a good way to do age verification or content restriction without holes or unfair compromises
at least not one that I've heard of

[vast halo]

second life is generally 18+ and anyone who is a minor has restrictions
second life just trusts that you are the age you say you are
^^^ however that would be very effective in itself. A lot of people will blatantly sign up with their real age and can't do much about it

[daring lark]

then i guess we just dont talk about it

[prisma plinth]

exactly :)

[vast halo]

Look at how discord does it

they simply ask for a birthdate, and trust who you are who you say you are. If they get a report of anyone being a minor, they disable the account and ask for ID

by trust I mean you sign a waiver under oauth that you are not lying about the age you provided to Discord

[daring lark]

so then why not try that?

[vast halo]

yeah. In the US the federal law is 18. Each state makes up their own rule. Canada is different. Mexico is different. UK is different. Certain countries you don't become a legal adult till you're married. Certain countries you are considered an adult at 13, or for NSFW access at least.

[prisma plinth]

that would mean splitting up the game by age and/or admitting to investors that this is an 18+ game

[vast halo]

And those certain countries require VRChat to comply with their laws, otherwise they simply choose to block them out of their country. The issue is, VRChat has a decent playerbase from those certain country

[daring lark]

i mean how clueless are the investors?

[prisma plinth]

no idea but hopefully very

[vast halo]

this would also rewrite the esrb rating and what parents think of their kid going on vrchat
"My son is going to be in a virtual world with a bunch of potentially 24-27 year olds"

[daring lark]

the way to fix that is to make it 18 across the board

[vast halo]

not quite

you're forgetting the culture barrier here

A smart idea is filtering the front page from any instances of worlds that may have a certain age range away from yours. Say you provided you are 20 years old, the instances that show up first are all worlds that contain other 18-22 year olds. Other instances may contain younger or older.

[desert stratus]

i mean look at it this way, the end goal of all of this is to make sure that people dont get hurt. this applies to minors especially, but can also apply to sex-repulsed aces or people that just would rather not have an uncomfortable experience in whats supposed to be a fun vr game. if all loose-ends were tied up for the most part in the sense that good moderation and official age-verification tools were added by vrchat, and existing communities moderated themselves well, that would still leave some pocket for minors to get together and do sketchy things and sketchier adults who have no existing connections to vrchat communities or other communities (basically, people to get them help or get them grounded in reality) infiltrating those sketchy communities that are otherwise mostly filled with minors with little consequence since nobody there knows how to moderate those communities well.

[vast halo]

Another idea could be forcing 18- and 18+ people from not seeing each other, but that would tear apart friend groups after a birthday

[vast halo]

this would silently prevent a good majority of minors from interacting with adults and the same applies to NSFW content

[desert stratus]

at that point parent intervention becomes especially important. it is not the end-all solution and the parents are not the only party responsible, because if there were no tools from vrchat's end (current situation) or communities didnt give a shit (mixed situation) then good luck trying to make sure your teenager is having a good time on vrchat without just outright banning them from playing it

[vast halo]

yes, i remember Xbox back in the day required parental consent to sign up if you were under 18. and if you did, the parents would be notified of your actions on Xbox Live. Concurrently, some games have a similar setup, and when flagged behavior is detected, parents are notified. E.g. suicidal thoughts, NSFW content, interaction with adults explicitly

[daring lark]

also i havent played in a while. are they still doubling down on anticheat?

[vast halo]

yes

[daring lark]

but I heard crashers are still crashing? so... how does that work?

[vast halo]

My first ever xbox account had to be created by a parent and was linked to my parent's microsoft account, and they could control and see what I did on Xbox as well as Windows. This type of setup would flourish in VRChat and would be simple to implement.

[solemn lance]

avatar based, not client based; however, anti crash stuff is being looked into, and the particle limiter in the beta build is a start

[vast halo]

anticheat prevents you from modifying the game files. Doesn't prevent people with the knowledge of bypassing EAC to bypass it and make their own malicious clients.
Also, crashers are primarily avatars uploaded from unauthorized SDKs which VRChat struggles to maintain, as it's all on Unity and not their own software

[daring lark]

so what exactly is the point of this update if there's still crashers going around?

[vast halo]

it doesn't stop crashers, it simply standardizes what clients do and behave on VRChat and prevents the majority of malicious client users as well as mod users

[desert stratus]

some accessibility / ui features and other misc things mods have had for a while are being scrambled together by the dev team.

there's probably a handful of people who have managed to get around EAC (if they ever go the full ring 0 route [very bad] then the biggest threats would be very far and few inbetween since thats not easy). other than that, its mostly avatar based, which can already be managed with safety settings (no idea why nobody uses them) and particle limits.

[quartz sapphire]

probably just to piss everyone off idk i didnt go to college

[daring lark]

are they going to add accessibility features that were used by disabled people such as myself?

[vast halo]

every version of the vrchat client installed on every machine/platform will be the exact same, and with EAC it prevents people from doing that

[prisma plinth]

no game has a formula that truely protects everyone while keeping people happy
take minecraft 1.19.1 for example
I just feel like making it slightly more difficult to the point that at least those who are under 18 have to actively try to surpass content restrictions.
At least thats what I feel is a good compromise

[vast halo]

yes look in #announcements

[desert stratus]

minecraft 1.19 update was kinda less justified than vrchat EAC imo tho lmao

[prisma plinth]

its an example of what will happen if the investors start caring
which would suck

[vast halo]

the whole minecraft update is genuinely stupid. I feel like they're causing a rift in something that doesn't need to be touched ngl. I pretty much only play locally with friends and only use profanity, so Microsoft can't really ban me if my minecraft server & client can't reach their servers lol. Keep that shit on singleplayer and lan only ideally

[solemn lance]

read the blog posts, they are

[viral crown]

If vrc could solve the problem of kids not wanting to be moderated then they would get the Nobel peace prize for saving our youth from themselves

[desert stratus]

like i think most of the harm that can come from minecraft comes from outside the platform and that just cannot be reasonably managed by microsoft, nor that minecraft itself can act as a direct roadblock to a scary pipeline for a minor to fall into since most gaming communities nowadays revolve around networking that happens outside of the game first before moving onto the game itself, whereas in the past it was the other way around.

[daring lark]

what happened to minecraft?

[vast halo]

microsoft made it so they can ban you from playing multiplayer if you say a bad word in a multiplayer server

[desert stratus]

the only thing 1.19's chat filter update does is provide a way for you to basically make it so that way someone you dont like can get banned from every playing multiplayer minecraft ever again. thats all it accomplishes. doesnt help anyone, probably hurts more minors than helps since most people dont like kids.

[daring lark]

what?

[vast halo]

regardless of who's server it is, if someone reports you, you're out

[prisma plinth]

genuinely surprised to come across people having civil conversations on this server
thanks for not being feral animals but I go to sleep now :)

[desert stratus]

sleep well 0u0

[vast halo]

even if i were to self host my own local server for minecraft and play with friends or family, and someone reported my account for profanity or hate speech, bye bye rights to playing minecraft mp ever again

[desert stratus]

you should bother me on vrchat one of these days

[daring lark]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-dinosaurs-plushies-gif-24417567

[solemn lance]

im literally a horse

[prisma plinth]

fixed

[vast halo]

funny joke i'm laughing so hard hahahhahaha

[solemn lance]

perfect

[daring lark]

when i get my quest 2 back from my friend maybe ill hop on and we can all meet 🙂

[autumn comet]

Good morning ☀️😃

[hardy terrace]

im gonna come on u

[daring lark]

do it

[jagged moth]

when is the patch supposed to come?? Im curios because I really need fsr

[meager solstice]

they said most stuff will be 1-2 weeks

[jagged moth]

oh i actually though in like a day or two lol

[meager solstice]

i mean it could be in beta sooner

[coral plank]

dude

[smoky basin]

Looking for some friends to hang out with sometime. 🙂 18+, LGBTQ friendly. Dms are open.

[coral plank]

naaaaah b im good

[solar prism]

I mean I would but I turn 17 in January so not quite 18 yet loollll

[astral sorrel]

I'm scared of meeting new people, trust issues S U C K

[pale tapir]

so

which one is it are nsfw avatars allowed in private or not?

[open crescent]

No but read the pinned messages

[pale tapir]

bc the loading screen still says it

[open crescent]

It doesn't say what you think it says.

[pale tapir]

no pins where?

[open crescent]

Sorry the pinned in general-1

[solar prism]

I think as long as the Owners and Staff correctly moderate the servers and do ID Checks to enter then NSFW communities should be allowed

It’s like the drug problem in the UK, if they made certain drugs legal and moderate them correctly then it would stop 90% of overdoses

[pale tapir]

i mean the problem is this game is on the oculus store

[noble depot]

they've repeatedly stated they're not going to ask users to dox themselves to play vrc - also, checking IDs is a lot more difficult than you might initially think
keep in mind the game is played internationally, and gets over 70k concurrent users on the weekends

[pure jolt]

right it was something like they couldn't distinguish ©️p from ok NSFW content so they just get rid of all NSFW stuff.

That's like saying "There was a rat in my house so I burned the whole house down"

[noble depot]

also, if NSFW was allowed, I'd see it pushing away investors - companies like HTC/Maker's Fund/etc wouldn't invest in an adult game

[pale tapir]

oculus has a strick nono on all nsfw

[solar prism]

Not necessarily, NSFW VRC Communities like LVC do ID Checks in there discord server before you get access to any sort of NSFW Channels or to even join one of the events, making it extremely safe for not only children but adults too that now don’t need to worry about underage people tricking them by faking their age

[noble depot]

trusting Discord randos with goverment documents :concern:

[solar prism]

No, all they want is a picture of you holding your ID and they actually tell you to scribble everything on the ID except the DOB and picture

[noble depot]

you frankly shouldn't want to give your ID to a company, just to play a free vr meme game lol
also again, international IDs are a thing, alongside player counts (lotta IDs to check, which takes time, employees, and money), and investors

I'm sure that's not susceptible to faking whatsoever

[pale tapir]

question why does the avatar upload screen still to this day have an nsfw tag if there is no toggle for seeing or not seeing nsfw?

[noble depot]

old remnant of a system that never was - those content tags do nothing

[pale tapir]

couldnt they use it to purge nsfw tho? (not saying I want that)

[solar prism]

It’s the most they could do tho, what else can they do to make the community safe they’re trying their best

[noble depot]

no, because I highly doubt people uploading NSFW avatars are self-tagging themselves as breaking the TOS lol

[pale tapir]

👀

[noble depot]

and besides, there's probably lots of avatars with those tags jokingly applied

[pale tapir]

lemme go delete some models

[noble depot]

you wouldn't want to just mass-delete/ban avatars/people on that alone
and as noted above, NSFW is bannable, outright, no matter if it's in private use or not

[umbral reef]

But as the team said, if you dont get caught they dont take actions.
It boils down to dont play stupid games and you wont win a ban.

[pale tapir]

thats true

[solar prism]

wait do u make nsfw avi’s? @pale tapir

[noble depot]

#vrchat-general-1 message

[pale tapir]

nah i dont make avis

[solar prism]

ah i thought u did bc u were talking about the upload screen

[pale tapir]

im watching a friend upload rn

and they asked about the nsfw thing

[open crescent]

Easiest answer is "does the checkbox say if you click it it's now allowed? No" the rules say it's not, and they haven't changed

Is it stupid that the checkbox exists? Yes, very

[pale tapir]

remember when this game was 18+?

[umbral reef]

Never was

[pale tapir]

on steam it very much was

[open crescent]

You might be thinking of a different game

[pale tapir]

i remember back in 2017 it specifically said you had to be either 17 or 18 to play cant remember which one

[umbral reef]

Yea no

[noble depot]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170615000000*/https://store.steampowered.com/app/438100/VRChat/ - it never was

[pale tapir]

thats soo odd nvm then i guess

i say that bc i remember when i first started playing the game i thought i was breaking the rules bc i wasnt 18 yet

gues i was just stupid lmao

[open crescent]

Lol

[autumn comet]

Is it illegal to make love to your self with out permissions?

[solar prism]

I mean you kinda need to consent to yourself to do it no?

[silk hollow]

it’s kinda weird to see people acting like the whole private server thing was a bad move on the VRChat team’s side

honestly i think the C&D was probably the right move all things considered

[open crescent]

Tantrum gang just looks for any excuse to complain

[silk hollow]

twitter moment

[meager solstice]

It’s what most other game companies would do

Nintendo sends C&Ds for less

[solar prism]

looking to start a group of chill people, preferably 15+ but it doesn’t matter that much as long as ur not one of those unattended quest kids that go around just to annoy people, dm me if ur interested

[cunning idol]

can someone tell me how to make a small but cool looking world so i can put my avatars in them because my current avatar world is literally 80 something mb and i dont want to be mean to quest players because i am one myself

im still a beginner world maker

although i have like 3 worlds

[umbral reef]

Might be best to ask in #world-development as the people there be damn smart.
Also i think there is a specific community around world creating, could be worth looking for that, i got no idea for the name myself though.

[cunning idol]

thank you

i need help again, when i try to launch vrchat on my pc it doesnt launch and says "untrusted system" or something like that

I have no mods currently as i reinstalled vrc

is it something with my pc?

[umbral reef]

If you can snag a screenshot of it would help a lot.
And throw it in #vrchat-support then when someone has time they can help ya

[cunning idol]

okay, once i take the screenshot i put in that channel?

[umbral reef]

Jup- Makes it easier for others to see the problem and read what the error says if you got a photo of it

[magic gate]

uninstall on steam, then delete the folder thats left over, I've heard that can cause problems because /sometimes/ mods aren't deleted by an uninstall
also if you need help with a lightweight world I'm happy to help - especially for anyone who cares about quest platform

[cunning idol]

oh thank you

i sent a request already

and i already reinstalled on steam

which file do i delete? i do i have to uninstall again?

[magic gate]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\VRChat
It might be a different location for you, depending how you have steam set up, but uninstall on steam, check that everything in that folder (or the folder itself) is deleted, then reinstall

thankfully vrchat is small as hell so it's not that bad of a redownload hey

[cunning idol]

Can I DM you so i could show you what im seeing if thats okay? this channel doesnt allow images so i cant really show you

[magic gate]

Sure

[sullen haven]

It could be the notice note that pops up on the main file

[magic gate]

we resolved it by properly deleting leftover files, I sorta get why steam doesn't remove them (saves/profiles/whatever), but oh well

[sullen haven]

It’s weird because I had that same issues which drove me crazy

[magic gate]

I'm half happy though, in my head I feel like people who can't debug the mods like this for themselves, shouldn't be using the mods they install
Not /really/ trying to be mean, but it's a nice show of people who don't read update logs, or the announcements properly

(and in more depth dev stuff) imagine the stuff the developers have to debug and test while trying to support people who had mods like this installed, but weren't telling/testing stuff
just reporting bugs and whatever without testing on vanilla

[heavy flax]

yeo guys anyone got cashapp?

[magic gate]

what the hell is a cash app

imagine not having payid (seriously imagine a world were banks just don't let you transfer money to other people for free)

does cashapp like take a % of the transaction?

[night nova]

are there any future plans for the devs to add in a supersampling option?

[magic gate]

The Cash App instant transfer fee is 1.5%, with a minimum of $0.25.
bahahaha the absolute state of america lul

[magic gate]

steamvr you can do that normally

[vocal shard]

this kinda offtopic but etsy takes like 7% of the money you make 💀

[night nova]

wait let me clarify. I meant something like AMD FSR or Nvidia DLSS

[open crescent]

#announcements

[magic gate]

ah, read the dev blog
https://ask.vrchat.com/t/developer-update-2-august-2022/11133#amd-fsr-12
tl;dr is they're working on it

[night nova]

oh i see. I missed today's dev blog. thanks

[bleak zodiac]

[fierce carbon]

Lmao, your pfp, nice funhaus reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKLywrF10G0

The legend of Volkor 🙏

Wait.... BIRB?!?

[magic gate]

https://cz0.au/WHsd.png damn censors

[fierce carbon]

Yeah we got off last at a bad end, switch scene toxic af

Hope you're doing good

@tardy blade Also this is the last place I expected you to be in kek

[magic gate]

also RIP spoole

[fierce carbon]

btw I still remember your pepto bismol story lmao

[heavy flax]

Hey ion mean to we wude but do you guys have $10 you guys can send me for door dash to 7 eleven i need lady accessory's rn and it would be great if i got some help since everyone ik is sleeping and have no money

[pearl shadow]

sus

damn its chill here no one talks here lol

[open crescent]

Wake up your parents if you live with them

[fierce carbon]

Okay, so Birb is a friend from another community that I used to know, we just caught up, what a strange moment 😁

[pearl shadow]

epic

[keen swan]

Hey I can't find the gallery tab on the vrchat home website. How do I get a custom vrc+ icon?

[full sail]

Jeebus it is 8.30 am and already 38c. What is thus blasphemy

[grim path]

Only if you like soggy fries

[rustic locust]

Bird

[agile inlet]

Why did the fkn earth decide to get closer to the sun

[languid beacon]

That’s insanely low. Profit split standard for game dev is 30%. Which is terrible, but it is the standard universally.

[rustic locust]

D-do I go to bird land?

[inner ledge]

where i can talk in this discord about gpu?

[shut stone]

g1

[full sail]

:rowletscream: my printer is being an interesting level of kinda-broken... although I deffo missed the mark not being pride month anymore

Yellow nozzles on the print head are dying so it prints not in cmyk, but the bisexual pride flag, lol. Rather difficult when you were making a 2x3 print of q friend's screenshot for their birthday

[inner ledge]

got buried there

[shut stone]

dam.

[full sail]

Gen1 does fly more often than gen2, but often is still the better place when seeking something. It's a weird Catch22

[inner ledge]

i am looking for a graphic card . i am mainly using it for vrchat and sometimes photoshop or unity . i have i7-10700 , my graphic card that i use now is nvidia geforce GTX 1650. for vrchat is not ideal, i have usually around 30 frames and i am using the worst graphics and blocking most of the avatars. i want to have decent graphics and aroud 30-40 frames , i dont wanna drop lower that 30 like i am doing now.
i though about buying the 6600. is it good enough for me? do i need a better one?

[quasi dust]

Yea 6600 is great boost from the 1650 for sure

[full sail]

Secondary question: how much ram and of what type do you run?

Dangit phone stop double posting ewe

Anyroad! Worlds and Avatars are heavily unoptimized in most cases this question is posed. It is also super not uncommon for vrc to chunk your RAM, which in the case of having 16gb means you are throttling

[meager solstice]

I personally would suggest a Nvidia card like a rtx 3060 at that point.

[full sail]

May even be able to find it a liiiiiittle bit cheaper after next monthish of you do go Nvidia. September is when the general estimate is on revealing the RTX 40 series

[ripe thorn]

That thing is hella expensive

[full sail]

I.... wouldn't say hella

[ripe thorn]

Its like 700 dollars

Where i live atleast

[full sail]

.> you're getting scalped. It's like 330$ usd before tax

[ripe thorn]

God damn

[full sail]

Is also why I said if you wait for the next Gen press release it may bump a bit lower too. People gonna need to move inventory before the next wave

[meager solstice]

Should be close in price to a rx 6600

[full sail]

The rx 6600 is a bit cheaper baseline myeah~ all in all comparable

[meager solstice]

If ur already willing to spend the money I was just suggesting a slightly better card

[ripe thorn]

True

[full sail]

Also why I mentioned the usd price point so you can convert it to local currency. All I was given was the number 700

[meager solstice]

With the word dollars at the end

[ripe thorn]

I checked again and its more around 500 to 478 cad

[meager solstice]

Seems about right then 388 usd give or take

[ripe thorn]

Indeed

[full sail]

Fair fair~ there are some instances of non-usd friends using the word dollar in my life.

As the crypto crash continues it'll only help too~

[ripe thorn]

Hopefully

[meager solstice]

Also true

[inner ledge]

3060 way more pricy

[meager solstice]

Wild, I can get one for like 80$ more

[inner ledge]

It is like a 33% for almost the same thing

More*

[meager solstice]

Wouldn’t really consider it way more

[inner ledge]

Probably i can buy amd that is better than 3060 for this price

[meager solstice]

Also they be having some decent deals on Newegg.

[inner ledge]

Is it international?

[meager solstice]

🤷‍♀️

U r asking the wrong person about international shipping my friend

[open crescent]

As far as I remember, no

Might have changed but doubt it

[full sail]

Mmm.. brain kicked about forgetting to find a marker/incorporate it into a Quest avi so I can still answer complex questions for both platforms

[vocal shard]

Depends

[full sail]

How goes life all?

[pliant night]

Hello<3

[strange badge]

Why is everyone so mad getting around eac for mods is really easy

[vocal shard]

The nsfw ban is another reason why people angry

[umbral reef]

Suggest you read the pinned msg in #vrchat-general-1 ...
Nsfw has always been banned and has been enforced in exactly the same way

[vocal shard]

Ohhhh thank you that really cleared things up for me

[gleaming spruce]

Sadly and ironically, the nsfw is a huge contributor to vrc activity. Like look at all the strip clubs and such

[vocal shard]

In the recent HBO documentary it was mentioned multiple times

[trail sparrow]

Hi

[lyric eagle]

It wasn't..? Dance clubs are mentioned yes, but no NSFW content.

[vocal shard]

It’s implied with the lap dancers

[gaunt venture]

me ran into problem when i boot it up on desktop and it says for eac for it to not start service

[north granite]

bollocks

[autumn comet]

I’m hoping in vrchat we could get 100+ FPS On PC And Quest

[north granite]

Well you used to be able to... until something happened...

[autumn comet]

What happened?!

[north granite]

uhh

🇪 🇦 🇨

My home world in vr averaged 80-90 fps running 100% resolution index. Now it's 40fps consistently on 60% res

2060 i7-9700 16gb

where can i turn of MSAA? never seen an option

are u talking about like in nvidia control panel?

I'm pretty sure mine is off

Let me check in game quickly

This slow mode is painful

[full sail]

I vibe with this feeling

Mhm mhm~ Pretty much exactly the same for me

I'm fairly lazy about optimizing the settings, won't lie. Whatever the basic security settings are is more or less what I've stuck with, and I'm not otherwise offended by getting shanked with bloated avis or unoptimized worlds until performance tanks to like 20 fps. At that point I either figure out if I can move to a 'safer' spot in the world, or wander to a new one

[quasi galleon]

Random question, are there any phantom touch trainers in chat?

[tight sonnet]

Phantom touch trainers ? uh ?

[hollow grove]

I donno if phantoms are something you can.... train... its kind of how your mind works

[vocal shard]

They help make your brain think stuff is touching you by touching your self irl and in vr to train your brain into thinking some sensation is happening you probably knew this lmao

[tall oriole]

is anyone else having problems loading in on quest?

[wet oriole]

Quest vr or Quest>Pcvr

[languid beacon]

That’s just a hoax. VRChat didn’t change anything

[burnt tide]

Quest users are npcs

[vocal shard]

VRChat banned my cousin's sister's nephew's brother's mother's girlfriend's cat avatar that had a thong!!

[hollow patio]

https://tenor.com/view/sherry-birkin-albert-wesker-resident-gif-9269336

[silver fiber]

That WOULD be interesting since most of mine have a thong at best.

[sweet oriole]

bruh look at thiiiis

[hollow patio]

Guys i just spilled coffee on my leg

[stuck parrot]

Not a hoax, but is misinterpreted information. NSFW content has always been bannable, but VRC will only act if it’s reported. It’s basically don’t ask don’t tell

[silver fiber]

No bits, no hits.

[hollow patio]

It’s very hot

[languid beacon]

It is a hoax because nothing changed and they are acting like something changed to rustle people up

[gilded token]

Yo, some of these optimizations kinda look crazy

[stuck parrot]

Saying that people are angry about it is also a hoax. They’re not angry; they’re scared they might be next given two heavy handed actions came down in a week’s time

[burnt tide]

Does this mean i can still enjoy my nsfw with spongebob

[silver fiber]

Believe you me, I have some saucy avatars after making well over 5,000 custom ones. The dev team dgaf if you aren't being an idiot in public instances.

[stuck parrot]

So long as nobody reports you for it. So only do so with other consenting adults in private locations

[burnt tide]

Ong bro thanks

[stuck parrot]

Also don’t stick your lewd in crazy. Revenge reporting can happen

[silver fiber]

On the other hand "here's my erect jesus body builder avatar in public The Great Pug" deserves a ban.

[burnt tide]

Real, also your name is a W

[north grove]

weird that there is a reply limit for topics

[bitter crystal]

"One challenge we’re facing is how to transmit text via OSC, as we can only send ASCII. Our initial implementation might be limited to the ASCII character set, but we have some ideas for working around this limitation."

Might I suggest something like base64 encoding?

[north grove]

some animator just started crying after being told to make base64 in noodles

[bitter crystal]

I mean ideally you wouldn't implement it using Udon but as function nodes to seamlessly translate other types into base64 strings and back.

[twilit cove]

Are they releasing the dev update today?

[full sail]

blinks.. tea sip... Alright I'll bite, why is there a fnaf animatronic twerking?

[rotund kraken]

yay its gone

[honest valley]

surprised nobody said "the animatronics do get a bit quirky at night"

[copper sphinx]

how does one access the open beta? i assume it just aint for anyone rn

[solemn relic]

classic .guess they not cultured enough

[honest valley]

#open-beta-info

[hollow needle]

Does anyone in here know any good femboy avatars worlds like names so I can search them@

[errant summit]

Not too long ago we were saying similar things about mods.

[vocal shard]

hello ^_^

[wispy loom]

hello~~

[daring junco]

Pop tarts

[pseudo pier]

Bread

[urban cosmos]

Hello

[open crescent]

If you want to be safe, don't break the rules lol

[urban cosmos]

Does anyone wanna play vrc with me tomorrow

[short wasp]

hackers do that on a regular basis.

[solar barn]

I’ve only been in vr for 5 days now and I’ll tell you what tonight was awesome huge shoutout to a legend in the making @raven moss this man was playing great songs and he was breakdancing and he had all of us up and dancing and just having fun the most fun I’ve had in a long time and thanks to those who were there that was awesome I hope to see you guys again soon!!

Man I guess vrchat isn’t really what people tell you it is

[stark bridge]

Werewolves or vampires

[rain violet]

Werewolves

[open crescent]

That is correct, my point still stands

[open crescent]

Depends on which people I guess :p
It pretty cool

[copper sphinx]

would it be a good or bad idea to add another section to the radial menu dedicated to world specific functions? if a world creator wants to add a utility that always sticks with the player, without the frustration of the player having to go back and find it, or the hassle of carrying an object, they could slam a function into a special area of the action menu for their world. of course, depending on the world you are in, you will be allowed different functions, as to keep the world's integrity, and allow creators to be a little more creative(?)

[copper sphinx]

could include simple esp, easy teleport, and hover for simple chill worlds, and maybe could be used to respawn an item next to a player if they happen to lose it in a more adventurous world.

of course, the creator would have to implement it into there themselves, or take from a library.

[mild ore]

Is there a way to clip vrchat with geforce?

[supple coyote]

iirc Shadowplay has settings for replay buffer

[mild ore]

what is that?

[supple coyote]

Nvidia's recording software, the main feature was the ability to effectively save something that just happened even if you weren't recording, that's called a replay buffer

[mild ore]

so how do I activate it?

[supple coyote]

what kind of GPU do you have?

[lilac swan]

Last devstream from several months ago already showed off a dedicated udon page on the quick menu that world authors can hook functions into.

[white otter]

random question but I uninstalled vrc and reinstalled it trying to fix an error and now have another where it says "you don't have eac downloaded" how the hell do i fix this?

[grave haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y9fiVBR8_w

[lunar maple]

Hello fellow vrchatters

[mild ore]

is the website the only way to chnage your name?

[white otter]

the eac thing isnt in my files at all-

[zealous hull]

Read the new blog post
The reason people want the ability to shift process priority is windows picks whatever is in focus if everything has the same priority.

So if you are doing avatar work while playing vrchat, unity will get more resources than the world you are currently in and talking with people in.

[white otter]

huh?

[zealous hull]

It's the reason why people soft crash while uploading avatars, unity sucks all your CPU.

[zealous hull]

#announcements they put out a blog post about 7H ago but I was asleep lol

[white otter]

I'm so confused the eac isn't even in my files

[grave haven]

Are you sure you have latest VRChat version? Try a full reinstall of the game?

[white otter]

i did ill do it again

[zealous hull]

Be sure your downloading the latest VRC.

[white otter]

i did and ive completely deleted the mods i had and it will open through them if i use the short cut it opens through the mod but they are no where on my pc. and it still gives the error from steam it still givez the error and when i look for eac it aint there at all can i get someone to send me the dl? or what do i do

[mild ore]

how do you change vrchat pfp?

[white otter]

vrc+ unless they changed it

[white otter]

other wise you have to go to the website unless you wanna use a pic from ingame

[mild ore]

can you put your own pic in the website?

[white otter]

mhm

[mild ore]

how?!

[white otter]

if you want dm me and i can screen share how if you need

[white otter]

still trinna figure this out maybe a mod or admin could help more since they know more on the game and such?

[peak mauve]

Yes, with VRC+

[open crescent]

You can do it editing the registry, I did it

[zealous hull]

You can do it with admin privileges per install yes
Can I be arced to edit the registry more than 3 times, no.
They said thair at least thinking of adding it.

[open crescent]

You can export the registry changes and just double click it if you ever need to redo it I guess

[zealous hull]

Steam client
Steam client in D dir
Oculus client

Steam client in VM
Oculus client in VM

Exporting would only make steam client in VM slightly more bearable

[red sonnet]

I wonder how much of the EAC-related moaning came from client- or mod-assisted crashers

And how many of them were using disabled people as leverage to advocate for EAC's removal

I kind of understand VRC team's position, when literally anyone expressing concerns might actually be the enemy

Looking to get their weapons back

[exotic yarrow]

I wonder if you are blinded by the cooperate greed hmmmmm

Have fun with vrchat while you still can. Because if you can't see that this platform is slowly turning towards cooperate greed and not to the actual player base. Then I don't know what to tell ya man

[warm galleon]

I stand with the choice of the developers. Not only as a user of their software but as a fellow programmer that understands their way of thinking and I trust that they have a road map that will be most benificial.
If you don't like it then don't use the software.

[red sonnet]

Corporate. And no, I'm just old enough and experienced in the field to see a bit of sense in what's happening.

...that, and the fact that certain mod users have been a major annoyance and a pain in my ass (prolonged, targeted mod- and bot-assisted harassment by a zoophile that I publicly called out and blocked), and I feel relieved that they're gone.

[zealous hull]

They aren't gone tho

It took 2 days for the 2 wurst clients to get back into the game.
EAC is well known for being bypassed

It just means anyone with legit reasons for doing something EAC doesn't like for excample playing the oculus version of VRChat via VD are out of luck

[warm galleon]

Complaining against any developer's choice no matter what software it can be. They have a reason.
Complaining is just like farting against the wind.

[zealous hull]

If people didn't complain we wouldn't have these acsessablity features they are adding.

Half the backlash as acsessablity but they have now fixed that at least somewhat.

[vocal shard]

How the fuck did they even bypass that? Kernel driver? Afaik EAC runs in ring 0 so, thats scary if anyone actually runs "clients" as system priv

[zealous hull]

Probably one of the may EAC bypass kernal drivers that excist allready

[vocal shard]

Jesus -- that's scary

Can't wait for complains about UEFI wipes caused by shitty malicious clients :^)

[umbral reef]

Keep in mind, VRC is on the latest EAC for a reason... Most games are on outdated ones that have a fair bit more problem then this one.
Same that all stuff reported gets patched instantly by epic as there big boy fortnire game has the same exploit then

[zealous hull]

Fortnite still has hackers
RecRoom somehow doesn't but 99% of players being kids on android probably explains that one.

[umbral reef]

An AC goal also isnt to stop every and all hackers, just the majorirty

[zealous hull]

True, EAC is a deterrent rather than a solution.

[umbral reef]

Also even if they bypass it now there is the option of the team using the more server side stuff to protect people.
Before this would have been so far i know leaps harder with all types of clients running around and not just clearly bad ones. (with how they dont wanna ban people unless they do big bad stuff)

[vocal shard]

At least for stupid packet spam skid abusers this exists https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_5cd9007b-1802-45fe-92e2-0b6617639344

[zealous hull]

Mini games that give rec-coin or wherever it's called
Hack your weekly challenge in a day and wala free tokans

[red sonnet]

Every security solution is a deterrent. Security is a risk-based field, you have to determine all the risks, rank them by severity and likelihood, and establish the risk appetite

It's not perfect, but is pretty sustainable

[zealous hull]

I wonder how Fortnite mobile handles hackers appart from me needing to install root mask

I CBA to make an android mod tho so ehh oh well.

[vocal shard]

I still think its spooky that anticheats run in ring 0

[zealous hull]

Same, it's why I learnt how to mask my VM

[vocal shard]

Good

Sandbox everything~

[zealous hull]

What scares me more is steam keeps saying vrchat is still playing after I shut it randomly.

[red sonnet]

Steam gets stuck sometimes, moving the window around helps un-stuck it

[white otter]

im still stuck on this and have no clue what to do-

[minor oriole]

just uninstall and reinstall the game. If you remember what your acct details are then everything should be fine when you try to open the game after the reinstall. You shouldn't lose avatars or any status. Worked for me

[naive yew]

I see a fellow risk assessor is here

[exotic yarrow]

Well you clearly haven't seen what's happening then

[red sonnet]

Would beg to differ.

[full sail]

Good morning~

[exotic yarrow]

Sure vrc may be secure now. But bit by bit your freedom is slowly being taken away. Even if there were no clients there still would be a big fuss about them just implementing EAC in general. Idk about you but i would rather go to a metaverse that actually listens to their community. But that's up to you

[vocal shard]

They clearly listen, look at the development update lmao

[naive yew]

Look into the CIA triad. This is a move towards the I part

[spring bramble]

next update will implement a voice blocker to prevent any curse words or abuse

[misty onyx]

So, random thing I'm wondering: was there any mention of vrchat getting a video support for quest?

[red sonnet]

Losing my patience a bit with you. Breaking the 'law' is not "freedom", mods were always illegal and it was only a matter of time for the VRC team to begin enforcing it. Alas, you chose mods instead of communicating with the devs. If someone created and, more importantly, actively upvoted some posts on the Canny a year or two ago, everything would be in the game by now. You tarried with trifles, victim of your folly.

[exotic yarrow]

Man oh man you think everyone is angry because of mods? It's not just because of mods. You are not seeing the bigger picture here. Many games have went down this path and vrc is probably gonna follow suite. Enjoy your user freedom while it last. Because it's no longer about you. Its about money

[red sonnet]

It's always been about money. Ever since they got their first investment, it was all about money.

[naive yew]

Many games[citation needed]. Please provide games and information gathered as part of this process

Nothing in the risk assessment business happens without sources

[red sonnet]

You can vaguely moan about it, or you can make the most of what currently exists.

[naive yew]

Also barret, i like you. Someone who understands risk assessments

[red sonnet]

I work in cyber security strategy and governance :)

[exotic yarrow]

Rec room,roblox, paladins, many others made veterans leave their platform. Plus you can't argue that they could have done those updates before EAC. This would have gone a lot more smoothly if they did that

[naive yew]

Information System Security, IT architecht, and policy compliance

[red sonnet]

I'm mostly doing data privacy and technology risk assessments for clients

[naive yew]

Ayo, which certs you got for that? I run with CASP+ for mine

[naive yew]

I agree that more mod features should have been officially implemented before the EAC update. But, just like how they talked about nsfw enforcement, they can't prioritize an issue if no one(or not many) complain about ot

[red sonnet]

Actually none, we're internally trained :D
Though I'm looking to pick up CISA and a couple of cloud certs just because they might be useful down the road, especially if I decide to leave the Big Four

[naive yew]

Trust me, get those big certs. CASP+ is a 20k boost in average pay

[full sail]

I wish my brain worked better software and coding-wise. Hardware it's fantastic at and because the basic setup is the culprit 50% of the time it works, but 5he moment it surpasses general fix? Blegh, lol.

[naive yew]

My troubleshooting steps are always the OSI model. Start at physical and work your way up. And you're right, more often than not it hardware issues.

[red sonnet]

The most problematic is the one between the keyboard and the chair :D

[full sail]

Ah yes~ those dang cats

[rapid pecan]

pssy

[naive yew]

PEBKAC
ID-10T error

[full sail]

jokes aside the feels are real yo. I was upgrading my brother's entire rig the other day and it was ... a time

A time enough that he bought a faulty cpu off ebay that melted. Let me reiterate that. The thermal throttling safety failed so abysmally his mobo melted with the chip

Oh hey we're down to a 10 second hush hush timer

[naive yew]

Hahahaha

[open crescent]

lmao

[red sonnet]

bought a faulty cpu off ebay

So my point still applies :D

[full sail]

Yep! Haha

[red sonnet]

Ebay is the place to buy sketchy hardware

One must understand the very real risks.

[trail bane]

Except it took em Five years

[red sonnet]

Five years of players not caring about upvoting features

All those feature requests had less than 100 upvotes

Some were missing entirely

They're not mind readers

[naive yew]

Classic case of if no one is complaining (through official channels) there's no issues

[red sonnet]

Nor is it their job to browse mods and research their popularity

[vocal shard]

Heres some ice cream 🍦

[rapid pecan]

No u 🍦

[vocal shard]

Take my ice cream 🍦 >:c

[rapid pecan]

Nu 🍦

[full sail]

Dangit, now I want a smoothie x.x

[rapid pecan]

Smoothie king is rlly good

It's the local smoothie place to me

Is the cooldown rlly 10 seconds?

[red sonnet]

I thought it was 20?

[full sail]

I've never heard of it~ but I'm also agoraphobic af outside of work, which is why vr is the best thing in the world to me

[red sonnet]

Oh, it gets higher the more you type

[rapid pecan]

Oh

[red sonnet]

Maybe not

[vocal shard]

Goodnighty random people. Have an awesome day. And remember if you need any ice cream lmk 🍦

[red sonnet]

What a nice person.

[rapid pecan]

No, take mine! 🍦❤️

[vocal shard]

❤️

[rapid pecan]

❤️

[naive yew]

Ice cream sounds good but everything is closed rn

[full sail]

Good night friend!

[rapid pecan]

Agreed

[red sonnet]

Ice cream is nice but calorieeeesssss

[rapid pecan]

In my situation tho, I can't drive

[naive yew]

(Great tasting food) is nice but calorieeeesssss

Fixed it

[rapid pecan]

Great tasting sweets, blow to my chest!

[full sail]

......uncontrollable snrk

[naive yew]

Critical hit

[rapid pecan]

Pls say someone knows that line

[red sonnet]

I had lamb curry with cauliflower earlier today and it was amazing

[naive yew]

Bruh

[rapid pecan]

hrBu

[runic umbra]

Da

[rapid pecan]

...

[full sail]

I'm too tired to be aware to anything more than subtle innuendo. Wrapping megaphones is rotting my brain x.x not as fun or involved as vehicles or signs

[runic umbra]

Time for sleep

[rapid pecan]

Well then do you know why we stopped the car?

[full sail]

I...wasn't spamming?

[rapid pecan]

It's just the bot

[full sail]

The lad

[rapid pecan]

A tad lad

[full sail]

My phone does try double posting on shop interweb so it's not that strange now that I think on it

[rapid pecan]

Oh-

[full sail]

Anyroad! A rough 3 hours of work to go, then nap, then putz around publics to try meeting new friends~

[rapid pecan]

I wanna meet u

[red sonnet]

A buddy from VRC is in town so we hanging out on Saturday. I'm hyped!

[full sail]

o7 we can chill, sure sure~ just as a heads up charades are a welcomed skill. loudest I can speak without pain is a whisper

@red sonnet eyyyyyyyy! Have the most fun!

[naive yew]

Nice. Have fun and be safe. Can't block annoying people irl sadly

[rapid pecan]

I mean, I don't speak so I might be able to decode

[rapid pecan]

Niice!

[full sail]

That won't stop the attempts made!

@rapid pecan \o/ highfive

[rapid pecan]

🖐️

[runic umbra]

a

[tame spoke]

If I made an avatar and want to share it only with 2 friends - what is the recommended way ?
Clone my project 2 times, let them enter their credentials via desktop sharing and then maintain 3x the same project just to be able to upload for them ?
That would be so ridiculous ...

[rapid pecan]

#avatar-help

[red sonnet]

Upload as public and have them use the auto-disable cloning option whenever they use it

[full sail]

Iirc y- ^ this

[red sonnet]

Since there's way less of a chance someone will nick a public avatar now

[full sail]

If you ever changed it and they wanted the changes, theyd just have to clone the new one and have both copies

[red sonnet]

I think if you update the original, cloned avatars also auto-update

[naive yew]

The "correct way" is cloning, or sending them the assets to upload on their own

[tame spoke]

Well I did that and it did not work out. Saw my avatar on several parties now (no rips, my uploaded version)

[red sonnet]

Before the security update?

Because mods allowed to clone avatars even if your cloning was set to off, and clients automatically shared all your public avatars with external databases that everyone could access

[tame spoke]

Well I guess its better now, since avatar searching mods are gone ... but its still not secure since my friends have to always remember to turn cloning off :/.
Would be nice if they finally implement a feature like "usable by friends only". (just like instance visibility)

I mean ... I am aware that I can upload as public or send them the files. I was just asking for a better solution ...

[red sonnet]

There is a feature in the beta that sets cloning to off automatically!

Made specifically for those who forget to disable cloning

[full sail]

Oofta. Yeah it's just a bit of a gamble since people are... unfortunately.. people :<

[full sail]

Also neat! I didn't think that's how it worked since I'm just slowly working through the one I'm screwing around on

[red sonnet]

Yeah, because it's the same avatar ID across all the people that have cloned it, and so they load that avatar from the same source

And you're the one updating it

[trail sparrow]

Hehe

[rapid pecan]

Haha

[naive yew]

I literally had a discussion about the whole avatar searching feature and brought up this exact use case as a scenario as to why some public avatars shouldn't be searchable

[red sonnet]

A lot of public avatars are commissions made by artists for non-tech savvy people who wouldn't be able to use Unity

Nicking those was very widespread

[naive yew]

Some people just don't know a use case exists until they're made aware of it. Gotta think outside the box for edge cases when doing these things

That's why I don't harp on devs for feature updates other than "yo is this being worked on still?"

[rapid pecan]

Bro, chill on the lingo my homeslice it's krillin me to the core

Please end my suffering

[naive yew]

Someone may not know someone does something a certain way until it's brought up. An example would be eating noodles with a spoon. The "intended method" would be a fork or chopsticks depending on where you live, but other people would be using spoons. It's not the normal way of eating noodles, but you still are. Developers of noodles would need to account for that when adding different items to their dish if enough people do it

[naive yew]

Bro i havent even broken out the acronyms yet

[rapid pecan]

I'm finna die now

[naive yew]

Then we got t h o s e people who will intentionally eat noddles with butter knifes pretending to be chop sticks just to see if its possible. Thanks QA

[rapid pecan]

Ok but the PENCIL people

[naive yew]

Thats what we call an edge case and that normally wouldn't happen. We'd tell them to use the right stuff for it and patch out using pencils for eating noodles

[rapid pecan]

But the skyscraper people

[naive yew]

Thats just a place you eat the noddles, not the actual task. Different team

They make sure you have a place to eat the noodles

[red sonnet]

It's directly related to current VRChat events though

[full sail]

coughs in med fugues that have led to this

[naive yew]

The noodle devs added a bit of hot sauce to their recipe and it was too spicy for a lot of people

[red sonnet]

fingerguns

[naive yew]

This update shall now before forever known as the noodle update

[red sonnet]

Amen

[naive yew]

points at door sign
"Hot noodle store"

[noble depot]

[full sail]

The great noodle wars with a side of EAC seasoning

[full scarab]

Anyone wanna play vrc?

[naive yew]

Begun, the Noodle Wars have

[full sail]

If you're still around later tonight me and Rando are planning to bump around. Still idling through these wraps rn x.x

...would EACeasoning also be called Marinating?

[naive yew]

EAC was the spice that was added since it was too hot for a lot of people

[full sail]

Unfortunately so~

Man I haven't gone to the Uno world in a hot minute.

That was a random thought derail. XD

[naive yew]

After they get some water from the store to cool themselves off they'll be fine

[full sail]

Genuine question since I've not looked that deep, are there other "tabletop" game worlds than that uno?

[naive yew]

Cards against humanity, and any card game you can play with a deck of cards comes to mind

I've dealt poker, blackjack, and Spades

[full sail]

Nifty~!

[naive yew]

Most of the card games i deal are related to adult beverages, but I've dealt normal games too. I remember seeing a game about being a secretive chancellor from Germany circa 1930s but idk if its still up

Idk if the actual game name can be said here but the closest ill get to the name is "Secret [German Dictator from WWII]"

If you're a role player there's a world involving yes/no decisions with scrolls too

[full sail]

As the kids say; OwO

[outer swift]

Grrrr

[lyric eagle]

[outer swift]

Do you love the pupa? Really really really much

[full sail]

Lamp

[outer swift]

Wrong answer

[full sail]

Lamp is never the wrong answer~

[runic umbra]

I love lamp

[regal lake]

I have a stupid question, I make tiktok videos, do I have the right to put the vrchat logo in my decor?

[fossil idol]

[regal lake]

Tien tes la?^^

[fossil idol]

Yes I understand

[noble depot]

You can find the brand guidelines here: https://hello.vrchat.com/press
(the first page might be stuck in Loading - refresh the page if so)

[regal lake]

Thanks🥰🥰🥰

[shell cape]

They should increase the price of vrc+
We’re paying way too little for what we get out of it

[hollow verge]

So anyone know if the desktop wireless feature is all I need if I buy a quest 2 to see other pc users ?

[shell cape]

maybe 100/year -> 1000/year

[full sail]

Unsure if satire or not ;>>

[plain heron]

The mirror teleports to your hand every time you enter move mode? That seems like a very annoying choice

Can someone clarify that?

[steady stratus]

Can someone tell me, how do we save the teleports for our fav rooms?

Today is technically day 2 for me and i had see people that I have met open programs to their fav rooms and tell me to walk through it.

[vocal shard]

E

Everyone I have been backstabed by freinds and lovers again so can someone invite me to there discord server by sending link in dms, thx:)⚠️

[shell cape]

They give us the privilege of being able to customize and differentiate our profile and personalize invites with pictures all while bestowing us with a rewarded badge to let others know how much we love and support the game.
A modest increase from 100 to 1000 is definitely what we the playerbase want. We want to show our love and support to the community and developers that brought us together

[paper topaz]

I hope you're joking

[pliant epoch]

Based off the wording it appears to be sarcasm.

[wind cipher]

Yo do u need to convert money to dollars to get vrc +

[pliant epoch]

Most(if not all) payment methods will auto convert your local currency to USD.

[outer swift]

Do you love the pupa 😍😍🥰😍🥰😍😍😍🥰

[small wing]

wat

[small wing]

Yes, you are allowed to use the VRChat logo. It falls under fair use.

Also if its being used as something informative to the viewer (Letting the viewer know where the content was filmed)

follow this if unsure https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vRlm7h3Vh5sjRVS478amvSywI1D7GWuMzv_kYkxOPW8dELnAVJq9Fbiqp_hnE1o2N-v2NyKOntdiaOz/pub?slide=id.g7ca235226a_0_13

You don't really need to do this though if you're not collaborating with VRChat

[ripe oyster]

Hi, I'm making avatar commissions for vrchat. Any questions or queries, don't hesitate to talk to me.

[small wing]

Do you need a place to market your work?

I know some resources.

#community-servers-old message

#community-servers-old message

Active Japanese website for VRChat storefronts (can be used anywhere in the world) https://booth.pm/en

Also some VRChat storefronts here: https://gumroad.com/

@ripe oyster Best practice is to have the customers come to you, instead of seeking them out exclusively.

[indigo kestrel]

Can someone help me in Avatar Search?

[wraith pumice]

Be happy with 100 and not 50 considering how greedy they are

[cyan falcon]

is none vrc+ users getting a full 100 when the update hits?

[dry ridge]

le epic troll. 10000 internetz

[wraith pumice]

I dunno

Will they?

That’s cool if they will, but it’d be cooler to be able to search for public avatars will they do that?

And as long as you had an fav slot open you can fav it some avatars have no world thus no way of getting it that’s 100% more useful than extra favorite slots

But lemme guess it’ll cost vrc money

[cyan falcon]

They are working on an avi search, last i heard they are in the planning of it so it looks nice when it gets coded. They are trying to figure out how to make it so private avi not show on the search

[wraith pumice]

If they’re actually doing that then that’s huge, but it’s just so odd to me why it took them 2+ years for this to release I’m personally not playing the game anymore cuz I’m not interested in it anymore, but I still just find it odd the timing of their “huge update”

[regal lake]

i want vrchat permission

[small wing]

I linked you VRChat's permission https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/e/2PACX-1vRlm7h3Vh5sjRVS478amvSywI1D7GWuMzv_kYkxOPW8dELnAVJq9Fbiqp_hnE1o2N-v2NyKOntdiaOz/pub?slide=id.g7ca235226a_0_13

Its on their website.

"Brand Guidelines" links to the exact document file I listed. https://hello.vrchat.com/press

[regal lake]

Thanks

[small wing]

🙏

[cyan falcon]

Money problems, Didnt have enough hired help. I will stay on VRC due to me having friends on the game.

[full sail]

Ever wake up to the sound of frantic ocd cleaning, question your roommate/house friend, and suddenly realize you're a day behind and people are showing up for dnd?

Rip vr plans after nap... groggy tea sips

[honest leaf]

alahakbar

[runic umbra]

Yes actually

That was my Wednesday

[viral tendon]

i can't log into vrc

it's loading and then gets stuck and says error

[full ruin]

They’re looking into it. Server issues

[viral tendon]

oh, bc i was perfecly fine before, or almost and i pressed logged out and now i cant get it

[worldly torrent]

I need help. Yesterday i crashed and kicked out and all of a sudden i cant log into my original account

[tepid burrow]

vrchat is down atm

[molten panther]

yep vrc down

[vocal shard]

Yup

[hard burrow]

Realtime Player State Changes are said to be Operational in the Server Status page, but I'm having issues with it on my side. It's taking longer than usual to switch my Avatar.

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna be friends?

[weak island]

Oof

[lucid tulip]

I can’t get back on VR

[rain isle]

Yea none of us can

[lucid tulip]

I got off just to fix something weird that was happening and now I can’t get back in

[rain isle]

I mean vrc

[lucid tulip]

Oh now I’m in ! I think it’s back up

[vocal shard]

isnt suppose to be vrc team fixing this?

[frail night]

The website isn’t working yet

[lucid tulip]

Oh but the app is fucked

[frail night]

Is the game itself working?

[toxic geyser]

General 1 is chaotic lmao

[lucid tulip]

I can’t see any of my avatars it just all says no image found

[toxic geyser]

I cannot last in there

[full sail]

It looks like apparently our lack of day awareness is working out this time, lmao

[crystal talon]

Is vrc down ??

[lucid tulip]

Yep

[keen snow]

هدو يا شباب

[runic umbra]

true lol

[dire flint]

Heyy

[full sail]

I hide here in gen2 almost exclusively. It's so much more relaxed compared to most situations in gen1

[steady stratus]

So is VRchat down right now or what?

[lapis haven]

Vrc is down til the problem is fixed

[tepid burrow]

yes

[crystal talon]

What the problem ?

[finite abyss]

They banned nsfw

[toxic geyser]

Vrchat I think might be having an outage or smthing

[lapis haven]

Outage and login issue

[lucid tulip]

It’s starting to work now

[finite abyss]

Lol

They probably didnt im just saying that shit cuz its funny

[worn knoll]

When are we going to get back in vrc

[cyan falcon]

#server-status

[lapis haven]

I’d give it an hour or 2

[finite abyss]

Touch some grass, that reminds me I should too

[mossy falcon]

i cant even type in my user name thats how bad this is

[gray plover]

Welp, VRC is drunk again-

[frail night]

It says partial outage now

[toxic geyser]

I really am too depressed to go touch grass lmao

[frail night]

It’ll probably be fixed soon

[finite abyss]

Maybe u should go for a walk unless u have reasons not too, but its good for your mental health

[toxic geyser]

I tried that yesterday, it was alr but I felt more uplifted dancing by myself in vr to vocaloid. 10/10 experience

[worn knoll]

I had blue angles training today day vrc thought

[golden fable]

Some people are getting on and some people aren’t

[mossy falcon]

ok yeah that game is really messed up sometimes it tell me no connection and then sometimes it logs me in but never loads

[golden fable]

It’s weird

[vocal shard]

Lets imagine now life without vrchat, is is hard to imagine 🤣

[toxic geyser]

Anyways what’s your favorite date boy #general-media message

[frail night]

It’s a partial outage so only some people can get on rn I think

[cyan falcon]

#server-status

[mossy falcon]

kind of this is my life

[bold walrus]

God dang it! I wanted to get on to see my partner!

[mossy falcon]

this is a game that really helped me in life

[little bridge]

||@vocal shard cope harder||

[vocal shard]

@mossy falcon mine too and many other people 🙂

[vocal shard]

Dude shut up

[little bridge]

just login

[frail night]

General 1 is hard to keep up with

[golden fable]

My friend is freaking out cause her partner got kicked out and is one of the ones who cannot log on 😭

[mossy falcon]

alright let me login to a sever thats down

[pastel oar]

Vr chat sucks rn

[little bridge]

imagine not being able to login

[mossy falcon]

bro 😐

[pastel oar]

Bruh

[bold walrus]

Both me and my partner can't get on

[nova kestrel]

I was able to login. Just had to mess around a little

[vocal shard]

?

[mossy falcon]

some people will it depends where you are

[frail night]

Man I was gonna get on after a couple days of not having time to 😭

[pastel oar]

Both me and me can't get on

[quiet storm]

Same I just couldn’t get into a world

[bold walrus]

Feel that

[verbal moat]

Damn this chat is way more calmer

[nova kestrel]

It got me into the vrc home

[quiet storm]

It said it was having trouble with real time servers ig

[keen stump]

Ikr

[frail night]

I couldn’t even log in ,it just left me at the globe thing

[quiet storm]

I joined here to see if it was just me

[nova kestrel]

Then it said "You can't travel there" and put me in another instance of home

[autumn warren]

I tried to log in using both methods and it isn't working

Using email and using oculus

[frail night]

Just give vrc time to fix it

[verbal moat]

VRChat login API is down

[nova kestrel]

Ah

Makes sense. So we just wait it out

[verbal moat]

yep

[frail night]

They’ll probably have it working soon

[mossy falcon]

OK no one can get in when the servers are down no one cant play at all some people can lie saying they are in the game dont trust no one

[bold walrus]

It lets me into the loading then gives me the internet connection thing then tries again then I get the authentication can't load

[night bough]

@wild jetty hey baby

[verbal moat]

yeah, even the website service is down rn

[frail night]

Why is general 1 so chaotic

[bold walrus]

oooh even my tracker app is down

[verbal moat]

Game uses multiple API's its not only one

[mossy falcon]

because its one lol

[merry moat]

i hate how i have to wait a full ass minute to write another message in the other general

[verbal moat]

yes

[ember tundra]

Hihi, it is I, Bippy

[verbal moat]

General 2 is where the cool people are though!

[merry moat]

yessir

[rocky kayak]

Ppl be spreading misinformation in general 1

[vale brook]

i cant login

[bold flame]

BIPPY I MISSED YOU /j

[small oak]

is vrc down

[cyan falcon]

Because G1 is garbage

[mossy falcon]

yup

[bold walrus]

yup

[merry moat]

i was just playing a horror game with friends then all of a sudden they left. apparently im one of the only people still able to play

[rocky kayak]

It is

[frail night]

You should’ve seen it when they released the anti cheat update 💀it was at 5min at one point cause of the spam

[ember tundra]

You’d be the 14th if that was true

[cyan falcon]

#server-status

[shrewd blade]

I don't even know what's going on anymore

[bold flame]

Loll

[merry moat]

i know i was there for it. it lasted for days

[prisma drum]

Bruh

[wild jetty]

Hey love, still not working ;-;

[frail night]

I got banned for 7 days from the server 💀