#development-advanced | VRChat | Page 26

normal aurora Mar 19, 2018, 9:27 AM

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even for scenes

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it will invent random IDs sometimes for some things

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so that one ID will change for the whole file even though nothing changed

north dust Mar 19, 2018, 11:42 AM

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question

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i have the bubble bomb for yoshikage kira spawning, controllable, in that it moves along z axis, aka directly opposite my characters head, so i can control where it goes, still cant spawn audio, but i seem to be having sync issues

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when ever i control where the bomb goes it seems to make it desync

dull umbra Mar 19, 2018, 4:47 PM

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@north dust Avatar IK is disabled for all avatars offscreen for performance reasons, so if someone can't see you, they won't see your head movements which means the particle won't get updated properly. It's the same problem players with air-markers built into their avatars have to deal with. Anytime someone's not looking at them, their writing gets messed up.

north dust Mar 19, 2018, 6:22 PM

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is there any way to hard code force it to be used at all times?

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and also, is there any way, ANY way i can have a gameobject sat in the world using a blank fixed joint, have it's rotation mimic my avatars camera?

tired plume Mar 19, 2018, 7:06 PM

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There is no way for us to modify the IK so hard coding something like that is impossible.

north dust Mar 19, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Is it possible to make colliders that can touch other peoples dynamic bones? Or possible to make my dynamic bones be touched by anyone else? So I can touch other peoples hair and stuff or other people touch mine? While on the subject. Can you spawn items that other people can use? Like instead of having a gun appear in my hand. Could I spawn the gun as an item and drop it? Personally I believe it should be possible if everyone can use the same items that was generated from a world.

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like for instance, could i make it where i spawn like a fuccin staircase, and i or my friends can climb it?

runic mauve Mar 19, 2018, 11:25 PM

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@xLePlay#3746 nope

barren lantern Mar 20, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Okay, new question-- Is the Web Panel API even supposed to be available to players yet? Almost all functions that return methods don't work, getting stuck in a pending state, and there's very little mention of it besides one tip that appears in the Unity Editor when you're making a Web Panel. From the little I can find from other players on using the Web Panel API, I'm not the only one with the pending issue. Does anyone who has used the web panel API know how to fix this?

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If anyone wants to replicate or test, you can assign VRCSDK2.Networking.GetServerTimeInSeconds to a variable and get a valid response back, but other functions, such as VRCSDK2.Networking.get_LocalPlayer, will never return anything despite being called in the same way.

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I know they're not failing outright, either, because then the status would change and I'd get an error to reflect it. They're just stuck in the pending state.

dull umbra Mar 20, 2018, 2:13 AM

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@barren lantern Any WebPanel JS function that deals with a non-primitive type will spit out an error in the logs and fail to return. From what I hear, the whole WebPanel API is largely an outdated prototype, so don't expect it to work reliably.

barren lantern Mar 20, 2018, 2:34 AM

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Ah, I see. I was wondering why more worlds didn't make use of WebPanels if they can do things similar to custom triggers (that'd be great for richer input), but that makes sense.

normal aurora Mar 20, 2018, 2:31 PM

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what differences exist between rendering in VRChat and rendering in Unity?

dull umbra Mar 20, 2018, 2:46 PM

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@normal aurora VRChat mostly adheres to whatever you set in the world's reference camera, but the ZNear is limited to between 0.01 and 0.05

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Which could influence any effects you might have with the zbuffer.

gray skiff Mar 20, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Does anyone know a way to copy the contents of a RenderTexture to Texture2D material without custom scripts?

harsh nest Mar 20, 2018, 4:14 PM

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@gray skiff not sure if this is what you mean, but you can assign RenderTexture into Texture2D slot on any material

gray skiff Mar 20, 2018, 4:15 PM

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But then the freeze frame is only local

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Im trying to essentially cache a polaroid for a world like AI photo studio

harsh nest Mar 20, 2018, 4:20 PM

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they just disable camera, so the RenderTexture is no longer overwriten and appears frozen, you can test that in editor

gray skiff Mar 20, 2018, 4:25 PM

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yeah i get that working but its still local

harsh nest Mar 20, 2018, 4:29 PM

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I don't know how you are freezing it, but Iam using VRC_Trigger that disables the camera component and is set to Always

normal aurora Mar 20, 2018, 10:54 PM

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@dull umbra the thing I'm seeing seems on the surface to be some kind of distortion... I'm computing what happens to a ray when it goes into a cube, and VRChat's rendering of it is coming out differently to Unity's. initially I would suspect some kind of difference in the angle of the camera, perhaps...

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I already ruled out it being VR-specific - checked last night with a desktop user and they saw it too

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what's weird is it even seems to mess with the surface of the cube. even though my material has 0 smoothness and 0 metallic, it comes out looking shiny somehow

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but the surface of the cube is the simplest calculation, the ray hits immediately and exits all loops, and returns a fixed colour

lethal girder Mar 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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@gray skiff where are your camera used? World or as avatar emote/gesture?

gray skiff Mar 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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i figured out my issue, thanks anyways

lethal girder Mar 20, 2018, 11:12 PM

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Oh nice

normal aurora Mar 20, 2018, 11:39 PM

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I wonder if my bug is just in the computation of normals... maybe I have to distort the normal somehow just for VRChat where I don't have to for Unity

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something to do with tangent space vs world space maybe

warm niche Mar 20, 2018, 11:53 PM

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maybe the ray doesn't hit and return the fixed color like you mentioned

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normals shouldn't cause refections to be toggled at all

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distorting them is never a good idea

rough sleet Mar 21, 2018, 12:04 AM

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@normal aurora Can you elaborate on the differences you're seeing?

normal aurora Mar 21, 2018, 12:22 AM

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I'll try to post some pics tonight (10 hours time)

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the screenshots I do have are too indistinct to be useful

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I found some vaguely related discussion about tangent space normals on the Unity forum including a link to github which I'll be trying out too

normal aurora Mar 21, 2018, 4:13 AM

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the previous error this shader had on OpenGL actually created some interesting art

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https://i.imgur.com/VqcDzQz.jpg

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I wouldn't know how to make this fractal if I wanted to

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but now I do - instead of using the built-in max() function, define your own max(x,y) and implement it as ((x)>(y))?(x):(y), and it will produce this result on OpenGL.

warm niche Mar 21, 2018, 4:31 AM

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what happens if you let it do a less sierpinsky steps?

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because that's supposed to look like this https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Menger-Schwamm-farbig.png

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the space folding is off

normal aurora Mar 21, 2018, 7:59 AM

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yep, it just isn't obvious why that max function would cause that

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I had a screenshot somewhere of order=1 which showed the problem quite clearly too. what seems to happen is a small nick gets taken out of only two sides of the cube, and when you repeat that over and over, you eventually get that artwork

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here's the next one. in Unity: https://i.imgur.com/uuhGCwg.png in the hub: https://i.imgur.com/cFgWFXJ.jpg

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in the world where I was testing it last night it didn't have this flat white appearance and looked like some kind of shimmering silver

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either way I think the normals are the problem so that's the first thing to try

wary path Mar 21, 2018, 9:36 PM

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does anyone have a shader that supports uv scrolling and transparency

limpid raven Mar 21, 2018, 10:08 PM

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does anyone know how to use colliders to like mega jump or have any tutorial that could show me?

odd fable Mar 22, 2018, 4:28 AM

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@wary path if you don't find one by the weekend let me know and I'll make one

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@limpid raven pretty easy, put a regular unity collider in your character and then any time you jump you'll go flying

civic plume Mar 22, 2018, 4:29 AM

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guys

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I uploaded a while ago

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and the model is not there

odd fable Mar 22, 2018, 4:30 AM

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depending on where you put it, you can control the collider by leaning forward or back

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or you can just put one on your hand

wary path Mar 22, 2018, 4:30 AM

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Yeah I have one that uses a color mask but I'm trying to replicate an effect from smash 4

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It's just a uv scrolling effect however the base texture isn't transparent

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So what they use probably reads black as alpha

odd fable Mar 22, 2018, 4:31 AM

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you can just make the color mask then

wary path Mar 22, 2018, 4:31 AM

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I tried but it leaves a black splotch in the middle

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It also doesn't roll the full range of the animation

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It'll start half way on the edge of the thing that needs to be scrolled and go from there

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I'd be able to give you a better example when I get home in an hour or so

simple basalt Mar 22, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Wait hang on

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You can attach normal colliders to your own avatar?

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What happens if two people do that and then try and collide with each other?

autumn hatch Mar 22, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Nothing happens

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Currently there is no way to interact with another avatar, through any means besides shader magic. But even then you could argue you're not really interacting with someone else

simple basalt Mar 22, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Just curious :)

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But you can attach normal colliders to yourself and uss that to muck with world physics

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So for example use your hand as a ping-pong racket and slap ping-pong balls without picking them up?

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🤔

autumn hatch Mar 22, 2018, 11:42 AM

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You can only do that with particle systems AFAIK

sour mural Mar 22, 2018, 11:48 AM

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I got a avatar i forgot to turn off mesh colliders for on the cubes i used for my stencil buffer shader test and it makes my avatar fly up at 120km/h lol

simple basalt Mar 22, 2018, 11:49 AM

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^^ that's the thing

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If colliders can interact with the world that opens up for some shenanigans 😃

forest wagon Mar 22, 2018, 2:00 PM

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Anyone good with Mecanim and Logic Gates?

manic cloud Mar 23, 2018, 2:55 AM

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I mean you can interact with others on a local scale, where only they see it - if collision is set to everything, then it will interact with others on their end.

dull umbra Mar 23, 2018, 3:59 AM

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@simple basalt As far as I have observed, all non-trigger colliders attached to an avatar are moved to the Player layer for remote clients and to the Player Local layer for the local client. These layers are set to be unable to interact with each other or objects in the Pickup layer. However, world objects in any other layer should still be interactable.

lethal girder Mar 23, 2018, 10:49 AM

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anyone can help me with the problems i have?

i want to make the little monitor thing act as ui like the red mic button
render my avatar only, tried setting camera's culling mask to 'PlayerLocal' but the head is gone in render
(solved, kinda.. i want it to show to me only)

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here's my test video https://streamable.com/dehzg

normal aurora Mar 23, 2018, 1:12 PM

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avatar colliders can definitely interact with world objects like balls

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I guess it's up to whoever creates the world though because it doesn't work on everything

drifting egret Mar 23, 2018, 3:32 PM

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I'm pretty sure your head is hidden locally, to avoid camera clipping

lethal girder Mar 23, 2018, 4:20 PM

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2 & 3 solved... now my remaining problem: how to put the monitor look like HUD

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i have been searching for screen space shaders but no luck

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sob

limpid raven Mar 23, 2018, 4:38 PM

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does anyone know how to use colliders on avatars to jump higher or fly? i cant figure it out

unique dust Mar 23, 2018, 6:29 PM

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hello averyone

low peak Mar 23, 2018, 7:39 PM

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has anyone done anything cool with 3d shaders?

harsh nest Mar 23, 2018, 8:44 PM

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@low peak I've seen person who ported raymarching shader from shadertoy.com , or others did their own simpler raycasting & raymarching

harsh nest Mar 23, 2018, 9:43 PM

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@lethal girder actually I guess your HUD is parented to your avatar root ? I think you could make it rotate with your head if you added fixed joint connected to head rigidbody

lethal girder Mar 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Its on neck only since when i put it in head, its disappearing

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First time hearing about fixed joints, gonna read more about it. Thank u very much!

robust yarrow Mar 24, 2018, 2:29 PM

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i want a specific object (when placed in a collider of another object) to trigger something. Is this the correct way to go about doing this:

create a cube (turn off mesh renderer) and place it inside the pickup object
give this cube a new layer (key layer)
On the receiver object, add a vrc_trigger and make it enter trigger. Click on advanced and set the layer to the cube's key layer
then add the actions i want the trigger to carry out

warm niche Mar 24, 2018, 3:26 PM

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Pretty much.
You don't have to do the fist step and create a second cube, but its good practice. On receiver check is trigger.
Make sure the collision matrix allows collision between the layers ur using

robust yarrow Mar 24, 2018, 3:29 PM

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collision matrix? 😮 thats a new one. never messed with any settings for this

dark sigil Mar 24, 2018, 3:43 PM

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Basically it lets you control what layers can collide with eachother

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you can like set a water layer or something and make it so players won't collide with it but have a layer for floaties or something so the floaties will collide with the water

frozen pike Mar 24, 2018, 4:02 PM

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I can make spawns but how do I make a kill all spawned objects?
Tried using the prefab in the destroy objects but that just kills the prefab so I can no longer spawn more objects

robust yarrow Mar 24, 2018, 4:24 PM

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@dark sigil , @warm niche so right now my new layer looks like this (crown layer):
https://i.gyazo.com/ac3a34e9b59f0e316601615f262a5df5.png

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both receiver and key are using crown layer

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do i just make it so only crown is the ticked one?

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like this: https://i.gyazo.com/9706a0e9d3d2db756ada9dc8cd1c3aae.png

tawny galleon Mar 24, 2018, 4:41 PM

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does anybody know a way to make a subemitted particle play a sound without scripting? ie emit a particle which subemits on collision with a plane, then the subemission of that plays a sound when it spawns

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i havent messed around with anything yet but something tells me just putting an audio source on the particle to be subemitted and setting it to play on wake wont work.

dark sigil Mar 24, 2018, 4:48 PM

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you'd probably want it to collide with the default/environment layer too so it doesn't just fall through the floor

robust yarrow Mar 24, 2018, 4:54 PM

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makes sense, thanks 😃

warm niche Mar 24, 2018, 6:35 PM

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can Custom RPC used to trigger AudioSource.OneShot? hows do the Custom RPCs work? The current AudioTrigger trigger only plays one or two sounds and breaks, I am trying to pool some audio and have them play reliably and OneShot seems to be the way... but no option, so is Custom RPC a way to acheive this?

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can you PM if if anyone reads this, looks like this channel isnt too active

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thanks

restive basin Mar 25, 2018, 9:44 AM

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Hello everyone. I have an question. Is it possible the have an simple AI on an map for an dynamic environment? Something like birds and rabbits moving around by random. Sorry for my bad english. Greetings from Germany.

tidal island Mar 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

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Im not sure, but here's an English tip: Avoid using "an", and instead use "a". Most sentences use "a". It also sounds correct even if wrong. "an" is much more noticable, and distracting.

If you want to use "an", then try to only say it right before words that start with vowels.- a, e, i, o, u. For example: "I have an elbow, and an apple"

barren lantern Mar 25, 2018, 10:02 AM

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So web panels, by default, also create an audio source. I was thinking that this was for playing HTML5 <audio> tags or using the Web Audio API, but all of my attempts have been less than successful in playing audio out of a web panel. Anything I'm missing? I know playing video won't work, but I was hoping this would be different as it's just the audio.

barren lantern Mar 25, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Nevermind! As it turns out, Web Panels choke on MP3 format audio. OGG plays fine.

sharp burrow Mar 25, 2018, 11:00 AM

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@restive basin not at the moment no, because that requires script. So you can only do it with animations for now

restive basin Mar 25, 2018, 11:03 AM

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Thank you for the information. 😉

fossil viper Mar 25, 2018, 4:38 PM

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can you trigger sounds and particle effects WITHOUT using "Is Active" currently?

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I'm asking because i noticed that particle systems completely reset if I use the normal way to trigger them

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i would like my gunshot smoke and ejected casings to continue to exist (and fade out) even if the animation starts again

warm niche Mar 25, 2018, 5:13 PM

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So I just sadly found out that the onEnter trigger doesn't work if you are passing through it in a seat via animation :/

junior drum Mar 25, 2018, 6:59 PM

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@fossil viper on your particle system disable emission and have the animation enable the emission

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and make the particle system always active

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the particles will then always stay there even after you stop the animation but won't emit any more until you do it again

fossil viper Mar 25, 2018, 7:01 PM

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what kind of emission settings do i need for that? because i currently use burst emission to fire one burst at the start

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i guess only the continous emission works in that case

junior drum Mar 25, 2018, 7:01 PM

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burst should be fine

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I think I've done with with burst before

fossil viper Mar 25, 2018, 7:02 PM

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@junior drum so enabling the emission also resets the burst? ok thanks for that info

junior drum Mar 25, 2018, 7:03 PM

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probably

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give it a go and check back 😜

fossil viper Mar 25, 2018, 7:03 PM

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do you do you by any chance know how to have animations be on subobjects (a gun) and still work as emotes?

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i have an animation created on a gun in blender, so when i import everything is specified as root/bolt/position instead of character/.../right hand/gun/root/bolt/position

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just putting the animation on the character breaks it

median reef Mar 25, 2018, 7:34 PM

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Someone plz help me, Pickup objects often uncontrolable and undetatchable from avatar in my vehicle. fist time Spawned vehicle is no problem. but after that, this issue will caused.
Is this available any information??
https://vrchat.canny.io/bug-reports/p/picked-up-object-is-uncontrollable-when-grabbed-2nd-time-from-spawned-object

worthy carbon Mar 25, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Hello, I am trying to create a missile launcher particle system, and for the missile I am using a particle system with a mesh renderer. I want to be able to set the simulation space to world, but the rotation of the missile is then always facing the same direction, no matter where it's going (the rotation is always the same). I want to find a way to be able to set the start rotation of the missile as the rotation of my emitter, is there any way to do this? Thanks

warm niche Mar 26, 2018, 2:51 AM

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you need a custom shader, a friend of mine wrote one for me, i don't know if i can share it

normal aurora Mar 26, 2018, 3:56 AM

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I'm curious as to how to write it more than seeing the actual source

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actually writing the shader seems like it would be straightforward once you have the velocity

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does it have _CameraMotionVectorsTexture in it?

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the unity manual more or less mentions _CameraMotionVectorsTexture in passing and then doesn't explain anything about how to actually use it, so it isn't clear what is stored in it

worthy carbon Mar 26, 2018, 5:35 AM

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@warm niche How would a shader work for that exactly? How does it rotate a particle?

warm niche Mar 26, 2018, 6:17 AM

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i don't write shader, a friend of mine does and he made one for me to keep the roatation of the particle

harsh nest Mar 26, 2018, 9:35 AM

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@worthy carbon https://realtimevfx.com/t/unity-5-5-5-6-align-mesh-particles-with-velocity-using-vertex-stream/2328 I will send you shader based on this link once I am home

sand canyon Mar 26, 2018, 10:10 AM

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@restive basin About your birds and rabbits—you can make particles for your woodland creatures. Give them colliders for the ones that stay in the ground and use the Noise for random movement.

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Also I think it might be possible for some AI to work but I haven’t actually implemented it.

forest wagon Mar 26, 2018, 10:12 AM

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@harsh nest Sometimes I wonder what limits Shaders have

worthy carbon Mar 26, 2018, 2:40 PM

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@harsh nest Thank you in advance!

harsh nest Mar 26, 2018, 4:17 PM

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@worthy carbon here is the shader that makes particles align with velocity https://www.dropbox.com/s/sh17ak00k0wz4zs/Particle mesh align with velocity.shader remember to enable Custom Vertex Streams in same order as in the post https://realtimevfx.com/t/unity-5-5-5-6-align-mesh-particles-with-velocity-using-vertex-stream/2328

light lark Mar 26, 2018, 7:17 PM

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hi, I'm trying to make an object where every time someone picks it up, it makes a sound, however, every time someone picks it up it breaks and starts to cut off the audio until its unheard. can someone help me on how to fix that?

sand canyon Mar 26, 2018, 10:08 PM

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@light lark here's what has worked for me: put a child audio source on your pickup, with Play on Awake and OnTimer that's as long as your clip with SetGameObjectActive false on itself. Your parent pickup has a trigger OnPickUp SetGameObjectActive on the audio source.

light lark Mar 26, 2018, 10:12 PM

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ok thanks i shall attempt that

limpid oasis Mar 27, 2018, 3:53 PM

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I'm looking into an advanced technic where you can toggle things on and off using emotes. Example in video. https://youtu.be/7e7kHiWB0lc?t=5m1s

manic cloud Mar 27, 2018, 4:37 PM

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don't think any1 is going to share that with you, at least not for free

autumn hatch Mar 27, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Ooh interesting. It's definitely some animator property, but dunno how it persists outside the emote. Do share if you learn how it works

manic cloud Mar 27, 2018, 6:50 PM

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i was shared with how to do it, and can say that def not easy if you're unfamiliar with mecanim

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it's just to mostly make others wonder how it can be done

lean meadow Mar 27, 2018, 7:00 PM

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tell me please what font is used on the name plate

fossil viper Mar 27, 2018, 7:36 PM

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my avatars sound sources are REALLY quiet, but other avatars sound sources are fine. max range on oculus onsp seems to be clamped to 30 for me, can anybody help with this? please post if you know, thanks

manic cloud Mar 27, 2018, 7:43 PM

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@fossil viper min 2 max 30, remove onsp, volume isn't needed higher than 0.5

fossil viper Mar 27, 2018, 7:43 PM

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so onsp is broken at the moment?

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@manic cloud okay, i'm trying that now

manic cloud Mar 27, 2018, 7:47 PM

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idk

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i just remove it

fossil viper Mar 27, 2018, 7:53 PM

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@manic cloud that made it quite a bit louder, thank you

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but 0.5 seems a bit quiet to me still (im making a gunshot animation)

drifting egret Mar 27, 2018, 11:00 PM

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The OCSP audio component thing is now done at runtime, so you should delete it if your SDK is even remotely up-to-date

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If you want it louder, you should make the sound itself louder.

forest wagon Mar 28, 2018, 12:22 AM

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@limpid oasis Particles can be toggled easily

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But the people that know how to toggle objects don't share it; if it gets spread a lot it's not unique or special anymore

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 3:19 AM

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^

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Its really not hard. But we don't like sharing that. Its a big piece to a lot of our bigger animation projects.

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 3:56 AM

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I've done that to my squirtle petting and cabbage spawn to save 'gesture' space lol, didn't even know it was 'special'

What i have done was just enable the squirtle mesh renderer then disable the mesh renderer of the cabbage thru animation and put it in emotes slot. Done the same thing to another emote slot but this time its the cabbage that is enabled

Then enable both objects thru animation and put it in victory gesture slot

Thats the idea, dunno how they did it in the youtube video, i only tried putting selfie camera but only local, since its taxing on performance, and i dont like bypassing the safeguards vrc put on it

dull umbra Mar 28, 2018, 4:06 AM

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I'm not sure why everyone's being so secretive about it. I made that thing late last year and released it publicly on this very channel. The main issue really is that it's hard to setup and a pain to explain. There's also an issue where it can easily get desynchronized across clients, so there's no guarantee what you see will be the same as what others see.

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Yeah, latecomers dont see it toggled apparently

dull umbra Mar 28, 2018, 4:07 AM

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These days it's mostly been passed around by word of mouth, but you can find it if you search "Toggle Props" on this channel.

autumn hatch Mar 28, 2018, 4:27 AM

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I really don't hope the actual reason why people not wanting to share info like that is "But then I'm not special anymore 😦 ". I spent a lot of time back in the days trying to figure out simulated eyetracking, how it worked, what didn't work and how to troubleshoot it and I personally made sure to let as many people as I can know about it.

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I really doubt it, but I really hope the community doesn't start to hog new tricks like that to themselves

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 4:29 AM

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@lean meadow my nameplate psd was gone with my old PC, gonna dig my search history and ping you if i ever found it

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 4:56 AM

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i used Biondi Sans, but it just looks similar and vrc definitely uses different font, heres a nameplate i made months ago for my npcs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410356345297174530/428417043973406720/nameplateprev.png

lean meadow Mar 28, 2018, 5:14 AM

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@lethal girder ok, thank you

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 6:14 AM

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@autumn hatch Out of curiosity, what does the eyetracking? I have used Salsa for NPC animations.

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It's lip sync isn't as good as the one in game though.

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 7:01 AM

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hellop

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hello

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i need help

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my default t pose file is broken and wont let me drag it onto my animation duplicate

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can someone please tell me how to apply the file to reset my t pose before i start the animation

sonic locust Mar 28, 2018, 7:03 AM

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No idea if there's a way to do it

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Or at least I haven't manage to do it

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Did you accidentally add an animation to the main avatar?

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 7:09 AM

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i did it

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 9:40 AM

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@autumn hatch Another reason is it can be abused to crash people, and good things end when things are abused

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but its basically they're both particles

autumn hatch Mar 28, 2018, 10:23 AM

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@sand canyon Simulated eye tracking is hard-coded, so you just got to meet the requirements and then it will be activated automatically. It's basically naming the armature "Armature" and your mesh containing your eyes or whole avatar "Body" and you must have very specific naming order for the hip bone up to the left/right eye bones

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 10:24 AM

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are you guys talking about npc having eye tracking?

autumn hatch Mar 28, 2018, 10:24 AM

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Head and eyebones needs to have the tail of the bone be perfectly straight above the head of the bone and zero roll

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Just how to get it to work on your avatar

lethal girder Mar 28, 2018, 10:25 AM

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ohhh

autumn hatch Mar 28, 2018, 10:26 AM

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First 4 blendshapes after basis is hard-coded for blinking and such aswell

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Got a tldr tutorial in #tutorials explaining everything better

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It's short, but to the point

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Speaking of, I should make a 2D visemes tutorial later. I dare say I gotten really good at making those

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 12:05 PM

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I have a camera on my avatar that is set to show on my main desktop display, which it does, unless I'm in a world with post processing effects. Can anyone think of why this would be? pm or @ me, thanks.

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 1:50 PM

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hey Guys,

is there a way to trigger a trigger only, if all player left the Area?
I want to create a Bossfight. It triggers many triggers in the fight.
I want to trigger a trigger, thet resets everything when all players wiped out or teleported to respawn

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is it possible?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 1:52 PM

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you could maybe try doing something like this:

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In a hidden part of the map you have a cube that always falls on a different trigger. But if somebody is in the room the trigger in the room teleports the cube back to the top, so if everybody leaves and the cube falls down the bossfight can reset

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 1:55 PM

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this idea is a good idea o.o

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 1:55 PM

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not even sure if that could work I guess if you're in the room the trigger blocks your cursor but not sure though

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 1:56 PM

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yeah an enter trigger would work

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that turns off all triggers and back on again

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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maybe try it out first and then report back, it could also cause lag, cause everybody is porting the cube up all the time

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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It'S worth a try

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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you could use alwaysbufferone?

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 1:57 PM

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what

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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would that prevent it from triggering multiple times?

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 1:58 PM

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if you add another end point underneath

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that can only be triggered when there is noone in the zone and the one above deactivates?

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so it falls through the first one that would let the trigger cube respawn

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instead of the players being the cause of the respawn

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?

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dunno

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less updates per second i guess

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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is a hidden cube needed?

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i was thinking enter trigger > activate boss triggers, exit same trigger > deactivate triggers

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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The Mission is "simple":
Reset the Fight after all players left the area

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 1:59 PM

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but then it's hard to sync it with everybody else

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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@robust yarrow there's the problem. If one person leaves the fight by "Respawn", the "OnExitTrigger" gets triggered

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and the bossfight resets

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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oh yeah thats a good point XD

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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I want to prevent that xD

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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when there are still people in it

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yea

robust yarrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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you could move respawn to the boss area 😛

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

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nah

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they shouldn't respawn at the bossfight

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or at least in the Bossfight zone

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:01 PM

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Another world that deals with this, just have a button outside the boss area that resets the fight (of course it's not troll proof)

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:01 PM

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how does the object sync actually work, when it collides with a local only object that other players don't have?

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does it actually colide for everyone or how is it handled?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:01 PM

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@sharp burrow yea, that's the problem. I want to make this thing automated

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Because if it collides with a local object but renders for everybody, then you could make an object block the path for the falling cube, and everytime somebody dies he despawns his instance of the blocker, so if everybody dies nothing is blocking it anymore and the cube falls

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of couse then when somebody enters the room the blockers spawns for the person individually

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:04 PM

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It's a easy idea:
Players start the fight -> Boss triggers some triggers -> one guy is dead -> Respawns outside the area/can't go back in -> everyone is dead -> no one is in area -> Boss battle resets

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Need a large trigger for the player layer that checks if the boss area is empty or not then

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:05 PM

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doing this locally for the players would result in => Players are still in fight => dead player can go back in and retrigger everything

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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but do you kinda get what I'm going for cellenseres?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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yea

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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thats the problem tho @sharp burrow how (with the current vrc triggers) can you check the positions of players even if you add it to the player layer

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:06 PM

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but if I do the blockers for everyone individually, the triggers will reset for everyone individually

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:07 PM

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Well it only covers the boss area, so wouldn't trigger on those outside

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:08 PM

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that's what I'm unsure about, if the cube has objects sync it may have to first pass all the locally spawned blockers

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:08 PM

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hmm

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wait

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Go take a look at GM3 studio, he got a midi maker that works with the cubes. Cubes are local, but sound is for everyone

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I think it was local at least

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Can one Player "activates" a blocker for everyone?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:10 PM

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Yes I think so

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:11 PM

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For example:
7 Players goes into the fight
every player triggers a Blocker for everyone.
The Falling cube gets enabled:

(Falling Cube)
(7 Blockers)
(Reset Trigger)

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One player dies

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one blocker gets disabled

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because he exits the area

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and when the last player dies, it's
(Falling Cube)
-no blockers, falling cube can get through-
(Reset Trigger)

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change 7 to n. So the number of the blockers should be variable, depends on how many players are in the bossroom/triggers the "enable blocker" Trigger

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every Blocker needs to be a own game Object for everyone

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which can be enabled/disabled OR spawned/despawned by enter and Exit trigger

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:13 PM

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only problem I see here is how you correctly disable the individual cubes if they are spawned for everyone?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:14 PM

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that'S what I try to find out

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:14 PM

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cause on local there is only one that can be disabled

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hmmm

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:14 PM

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But you get the Idea what we want to do exactly, right?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:14 PM

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yep

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:14 PM

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we still don't know how to get this to work perfectly...

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that's why we ask for help

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Ohh god I think I have a really scuffed I idea hoow it could work

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:16 PM

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The only thing that bothers me...
Can a player disable the same blocker that he had enabled when it's globally and not locally?

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ohhh, tell me 😄

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:17 PM

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ok so this time you have to stack the blockers and every time somebody falls off the map you remove the most bottom blocker

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:17 PM

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there's one problem.
The number of players is variable

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how should I make the blockers variable?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:18 PM

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you can achieve this by having a trigger on the blockers that destroy themselves when they collide with a different layer, so when somebody dies it spawns a remover on the certain layer whitch then falls with gravity so it doesn't disturb the system

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you just make an extremely long line

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and depending on the number of players it will spawn so many blockers

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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how to check how many Players are in the fight? 😂

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:20 PM

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I think you could trigger the remover everytime somebody dies

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then if nothing goes wrong it should hopefully work

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I would also add a back up option (two triggers far apart) that resets the fight just in case

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:21 PM

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I'll try something. That will be difficult

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:22 PM

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You can spawn a cube inside a object (that is attached to it) right?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:22 PM

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Yeah I guess having backup buttons is always smart

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:22 PM

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I've to get it to work to spawn as many blocks/blockers as people are in the arena when the battle starts

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:23 PM

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If you can spawn cubes inside another object, you could animate that object to circle a point and every time a cube (special layer) touch the "sensor" the timer resets. So if the timer reach 0 the fight resets

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:23 PM

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you spawn a blocker in, when a player goes through the gate, but in that case I'd make the gate a teleport gate where you have to press button or the gate

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:24 PM

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that's one thing I want to prevent. To make it like the original, where's no teleport.

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:24 PM

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hmm

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then you could make a trigger that disables itsself locally once you rigger it

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and at the same time spawns a blocker

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:27 PM

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can I create a Trigger that destroys itself only locally and spawns a Blocker for "everyone" at the same time?
Like => The Fight starts => one Blocker spawns for every Player in this area.
I guess this will work...
BUT: how to tell the system to destroy just only one of these blocks when a player dies

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 2:28 PM

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on enter trigger activate game object locally for everyone that runs through.. so you can use one block for multiple players? if so then you could still just make it a 3 block setup.. the falling one, the end point, and the one that gets activated for every player locally.. it will reset the falling one back to the top for as long as there is someone "alive".. on "death" they deactivate it locally.. for as long as there are players in it the falling block will reset

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, no?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:28 PM

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if I spawn the blockers at the same position and lets drop a "blocker-destroyer" to destroy the block that collides with it, it will destroy all blocks because the blockers are at the same position?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:30 PM

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so the blockers have gravity and fall down naturally. The removers also fall with gravity. You have the stack of blockers float somewhere, so that the blockers collide with eachother so that they stack attop eachother. Then when somebody dies it spawn the remover at the lowest most blocker. The blocker is removed and the remover falls to the floor.

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:30 PM

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the blockers will likely spawn at the same time

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:30 PM

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oh yeah damn

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:30 PM

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because the bossfight starts for everyone at the same time. That's the time when the blockers spawns

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If a block only exists locally. And there's a block on top of that which everyone can see

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does the block fall?

sharp burrow Mar 28, 2018, 2:32 PM

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Blocker - Local
Checker - Local
OnCollider - Buffer?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:32 PM

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or "floats" it for everyone

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:33 PM

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yeah that's also what I'm wondering it would make life so much easier

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 2:35 PM

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when one person enters the area, let them activate "blockercube" locally.. for every person there is in the room there will be a local blocker cube.. if they die, remove it. the "triggercube" shouldn't be able to fall as long as there is still 1 remaining local cube (1 player alive).. if all local cubes are terminated the "triggercube" will fall onto the "fightreset" cube

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:36 PM

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now I have to find out: Does the Triggercube fall if there's a local Block you can't see`?

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So everyone dead would see it float?

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theoretically?

noble cypress Mar 28, 2018, 2:36 PM

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schroedingers unity triggers

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:37 PM

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The question: Does it fall locally for player 1 (dead) even if Player 2 is still alive and has a blocker activated locally?

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:39 PM

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I really gotta go now will you be able to report back how vrchat behaves?

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:39 PM

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sure!

bleak tendon Mar 28, 2018, 2:39 PM

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and good luck hope it works out ^^

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 2:39 PM

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thanks!"

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Okay, doesn't work as I wished... Have to recheck that

warm niche Mar 28, 2018, 4:54 PM

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Hello

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I would like to create a blender addon that generates a simple rigid body + blank mesh + material

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Can someone help me

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It doesnt exist on google

crisp pendant Mar 28, 2018, 7:17 PM

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vrc default strafe animations are turned roughly how many degrees?

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:12 PM

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I have an idea for your boss battle

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The issue is that you really need one large collider as a detector. You can’t have this on all the time because it will interfere with other interactions.

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So have it pulse on fast enough to detect and disable an OnTimer reset

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Fast enough that players don’t notice

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@pine pasture @bleak tendon

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So you can have a looping animator controller that sets the detector active say for .2s every 2 seconds

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In those .2 seconds it looks for an OnEnterTrigger for players and sets a Boolean

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If it does not set the Boolean, it goes to reset state

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:35 PM

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@autumn hatch thanks, I was actually more curious about what’s inside the black box (trust me, I got eye tracking and visemes down pat by now), I’m more thinking about NPCs. Right now my laborious process involves using the SALSA asset, then Unity Runtime Recorder to get the lip sync from visemes, then manually syncing it up in an animator with a face avatar mask...it would be soooo much better if there were a lip sync and eye tracking asset whitelisted.

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 9:35 PM

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so when I "animate" this trigger to check every .5 sec (for example) if there's no player Enter, the boolean will stay "false" and can reset other triggers?

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how to check for a boolean by using the OnEnterTrigger?

autumn hatch Mar 28, 2018, 9:36 PM

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NPCs I don't know anything about, sorry

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:37 PM

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Simplest controller path—three states, one is wait, one is detect, one is reset. Reset goes back to Wait. Actually your OnEnterTrigger action should be an animator trigger that goes to Reset, not a Boolean. Then Reset has an exit time back to Wait.

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Wait and Detect just have exit times and will loop automatically until the “no players” trigger is sent.

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 9:39 PM

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uhh, have to check if this work

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So I create an Animator with three states

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:40 PM

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The noplayers trigger is probably something like a deadman switch, because lack of something in the collider isn’t a trigger. It wold be a separate object that will set the trigger unless actively disabled in the Detect phase

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So I changed my mind again, Boolean makes more sense.

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Detect phase: game object Detector is active. OnEnterTrigger is sets NoPlayers True. The Reset phase sets NoPlayersFalse.

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It’s so much easier to figure out the logic while actually building the controller, sorry

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 9:44 PM

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https://i.snag.gy/niJDSW.jpg

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something like this?

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OnEnterCollider sends boolean "true" to animator, when player is in Collider, otherwise bool stays false. Animation goes to "Reset Bossfight" and triggers the Reset for the triggers

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something like this

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:52 PM

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Sounds good, give it a try

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I would make the Detect cycle as short as you can do reliably detect otherwise you might miss some hits. Also use Trigger not Collider

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 9:54 PM

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okay

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https://i.snag.gy/XhzVyv.jpg

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Don’t forget to loop back to Wait from reset

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 9:55 PM

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made it a bit different

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the animation starts first time with "PlayersAlive = True".
it waits 0.5 sec
Detect checks if PlayersAlive = "true."
If PlayersAlive = "false" => Reset will be triggered (sets gravity to this object, which resets everything by colliding with the "Reset Trigger Object"
If PlayersAlive = "true" => It jumps back to Wait.
wait waits again for 0.5 sec.
Detect checks if playersAlive ="true" etc etc

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 10:00 PM

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👍 give it a go. You can test your controller in Play mode, drag the animator tab over to the hierarchy area and view the scene, you can manually set the parameters and see what happens. Doesn’t make the vrc triggers go but that way you can debug your logic separately.

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 10:00 PM

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yep

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I can just put an Object with the Layer "Player" in the OnEnterTrigger.

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it will do it's thing, I hope 😄

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 10:50 PM

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I guess I've found out how to do it

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BUT

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getting a "Deferring event of type AnimationTrigger because dispatcher is unavailable." when PlayerObject enters the trigger

sand canyon Mar 28, 2018, 10:56 PM

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😩

pine pasture Mar 28, 2018, 11:01 PM

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what does that mean and how to fix that?

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first time it seems to work.
But creating a Animation for the OnEnterTrigger which enables/disables "Box Collider", "VRC_Trigger", "VRC_Eventhandler" to retrigger with the player seems not to work

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it get triggered once for one PlayerObject

pine pasture Mar 29, 2018, 12:12 AM

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fixed o7
Works like a charm now.

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Today accomplished:

awesome Bossfight-Startanimation
Creating a System to check if players in specific area
Creating a System to reset Bossfight when all players in Bossfight are "dead" automatically
Timed Triggers
Triggers with specific Conditions

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:16 AM

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hello

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somoene help me please

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i need a way to force a shader change on a model in animation

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i can do it with a cube

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but it is disabled for avatars

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can someone teach me the bypass

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I have a camera on my avatar. I set it to use display 1 main, so its view is showed on my desktop. It works in VRChat, except in worlds that use post processing. Using this for a selfie stick to make videos with an awesome new style. Any idea why post processing keeps the cameras view from showing on the desktop window?

sand canyon Mar 29, 2018, 12:31 AM

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@pine pasture can you share your working player detector?

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You were productive today!!

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:36 AM

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nobody?

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Its a working selfie stick! Can we figure out why post processing on maps is keeping an avatar camera from using Display 1?

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sigh

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this is infuriating

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there are no results on google or reddit or any development site

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 12:40 AM

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@warm niche My initial guess is that it's because the post processing happens after your camera has rendered so your image gets drawn over.

pine pasture Mar 29, 2018, 12:41 AM

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My "Playerdetector"

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https://abload.de/img/playerdetector2zsuy.png

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 12:41 AM

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@warm niche Are you trying to change the shader or the material?

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:41 AM

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TCL do you know how to unlink the body object from the duplicate so i can change the shader

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both

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neither works

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 12:41 AM

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Hmm, what shaders are you trying to switch between?

pine pasture Mar 29, 2018, 12:42 AM

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And the resetcube which gets triggered to set gravity of it to "on" when no player is in Playerdetector anymore
https://abload.de/img/resetcubez6s32.png

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:42 AM

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im trying to make the duplicate change shaders

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the duplicate changes the original

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 12:42 AM

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You just duplicated the model in Unity?

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:43 AM

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no

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i did it the same way when i do animations

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but it doesnt work with shaders

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how do i make it work like shaders

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i can do it with a cube

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i can shader change a cube

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but any modifications to a body object duplicated or not causes changes to both

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 12:50 AM

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@warm niche Hmm, that's odd. How are you duplicating it, and how are you changing the shaders?

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 12:50 AM

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well

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im retarded

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it worked when i dragged the material onto it

rough sleet Mar 29, 2018, 1:03 AM

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@warm niche Did you get it working?

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 1:10 AM

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working on it

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thanks tho

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 1:53 AM

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So i have a random question

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when you export maps and stuff, are all the assets in the project sent

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or just the stuff in the scene?

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Cause i have one massive project file for my vrchat stuff, and just put everything into seperate scenes

grim pasture Mar 29, 2018, 4:09 AM

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@warm niche Assuming the VR Chat SDK uses Unity's standard asset bundle features (and I don't see why it wouldn't) then it will only include what's actually used & referenced in the scene.

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 4:20 AM

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yes, it only builds with dependencies, so only assets you used will be packaged

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it will go over all of them, so if you have a HDRI skybox pack but don't use it, every time you build it will unpack the images but not include them in the final upload, so remove any big pack you're not using or just leave the textures you use and delete the rest for example

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to save a lot of time waiting for the assets to be bundled

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omg

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wtf

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how do i fix unity

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i rebooted my computer

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opened unity up

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and it froze again

balmy zenith Mar 29, 2018, 7:37 AM

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what do you mean by froze?

barren lantern Mar 29, 2018, 9:58 AM

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Hey-- I'm trying to upload an update to a world I'm building, and the editor crashes every time immediately after clicking "Upload", in the part of the process where it creates an optimized file. From the editor log and the crash log, it's crashing of an access violation when it tries to compress the file before starting the upload process. Has anyone else encountered this issue or know how to fix it?

lethal girder Mar 29, 2018, 10:31 AM

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i encountered it 3x and what i've done was created new project then copy/pasted the assets folder while unity is closed

sand canyon Mar 29, 2018, 3:12 PM

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@barren lantern you have any cloud backup or sync like Dropbox or Drive running?

pseudo fiber Mar 29, 2018, 5:43 PM

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Someone familiar with Ingame Video Players/Animated Models that active on trigger. (and every player that joins later the room will have the current time/status synchronized with those that are already in the room ?)

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Having an issue with the synchronize.

warm niche Mar 29, 2018, 7:32 PM

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I guess it's a "thing" now for people not to help each other and share information. Just remember how greed works out in the end. You get what you put in to life. What you put out comes back to you. I salute all of the people that find things out, make wikis, and build docs, post packages, prefabs, and actually help the community by sharing and being active. You know who you are. The creepy folks who take, and take, without ever helping anyone hold on to the "precious" thing you have until it vanishes like all matter. Let go of what you think you have. You have nothing in the end except the people around you. Thanks to the OG community, I am happy that people have taken it upon themselves to build dev communities around VRC in many places. I had a big vision for community repo where we all share what we make...but it seems non-existant.... but the irony in "protecting" your vrc "inventions", is incentiveless... 1st.. you can not sell your Invention unless you are taking advantage of others. Open up

quick bluff Mar 29, 2018, 7:38 PM

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Does anyone know how the normal coordinates mapping for textures in blender works? I've managed to get a static version working in unity using the object normals, but in blender I see that the texture also changes/moves when your camera moves but I'm not sure what operations that entails.

barren lantern Mar 29, 2018, 8:17 PM

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@lethal girder Got the world re-uploaded by doing that, thanks! I'm glad I got it working again.

pine pasture Mar 30, 2018, 12:56 AM

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Hey Guys, I think I need some help!
I got my Playerdetection-System and stuff to work but I'm stuck with reseting some stuff now :(
I've created a Animation Controller to detect Players within a location by using a OnEnterTrigger which sends a "PlayersAlive" to the animator every 5 seconds.
As long as the Animator gets that, It rotates between "Wait" and "Detect".
If there's no Player in EnterTrigger, Detect jumps to reset.
the PlayerDetector should fall on a Reset-Button by activating gravity on it's rigidbody.
This works pretty fine. The Reset Button gets pressed.

But now here's the problem...
I want to add another State to the animator which puts the playerdetector back to it's original Position (like in the screenshot).
But as soon as I add this State to the Animator, the Playerdetector won't fall anymore even when the gravity is activated. The ResetPos doesn't get "triggered" yet because the condition isn't fullfilled.
https://i.snag.gy/ezgQwV.jpg

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How can I let the cube fall even if the new State is added, which should put the cube back to it's original position when the condition for it is fulfilled? (Condition is between "ActivateGravity" and "ResetPos")

robust yarrow Mar 30, 2018, 1:11 AM

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would using the any state function help at all?

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so no matter what state its in, it can trigger the reset?

pine pasture Mar 30, 2018, 1:14 AM

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any state?
Nah.
as soon as the Playerdetector falls on the Reset Button (ActivateGravity), the Reset button sends a "reset" signal to the Animation Controller.
this switches the State "Activate Gravity" to "ResetPos".
This should reset the Position of the PlayerDetector for the next use

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and as soon as I put the "ResetPos" into the Animator (even if there's no transition to this one, the Gravity gets activated but the playerdetector doesn't fall

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hmm... fixed it somehow qwq lol

sand canyon Mar 30, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Why are you using a gravity switch at all and not just activating an object with an OnEnable trigger?

restive basin Mar 30, 2018, 4:10 PM

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Hey guys, is there a way to trigger a vrc_trigger script with particles ?

robust yarrow Mar 30, 2018, 4:38 PM

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trying to get pickup object to work using pickup use up + down triggers. The action when released takes about 3.5 seconds to complete. So i have an ontimer which disables the triggers and reactivates them after the timer is complete. However , whilst waiting for the cooldown to complete if I press the action button , it will carry it out the moment the triggers are reactivated. Is there any way to prevent the action from queuing like this? If the game object is disabled shouldnt use the triggers on it right?

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or do i have to turn the trigger components off with it too?

EDIT:
i've done a half fix that i'm happy with for now. It queues up only some of the action and it requires the action to be available and re-activated for it to work 😃

hallow storm Mar 30, 2018, 5:38 PM

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we can change gravity in VRC?

robust yarrow Mar 30, 2018, 6:17 PM

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seems like we can

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Testrun (the world) seems to have it changed

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or at least feels like it

robust yarrow Mar 30, 2018, 6:41 PM

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can a local trigger on one object activate a trigger(on another object) that will play out for everyone?

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or will the followup triggers always be local?

sick lodge Mar 30, 2018, 6:55 PM

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any shader wizards know what conditions cause a surface shader to interact badly with the post processing stack bloom effect

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stuff like this https://i.imgur.com/wT1XyBb.jpg

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here it is especially bad https://i.imgur.com/OTFhauo.jpg

pine pasture Mar 30, 2018, 7:19 PM

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@sick lodge
Can you tell me where you get the Phos_model? I'm looking for it for a while already

sick lodge Mar 30, 2018, 7:20 PM

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uh

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i probably googled like phosphophyllite in katakana and MMD

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its a niconico website iirc

pine pasture Mar 30, 2018, 7:21 PM

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oh, thanks!

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got it o/

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okay, was the wrong one x__x

pine pasture Mar 30, 2018, 8:44 PM

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okay, got it. My version is VRChat-Ready now.
https://i.snag.gy/wyxWjh.jpg

forest wagon Mar 30, 2018, 8:50 PM

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@warm niche Welp sharing some stuff also lead to huge abuses

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That's why I keep easily abusable stuff to myself

sand canyon Mar 30, 2018, 9:07 PM

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Lakuza you can’t disable a vrc conponent

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Make your picupusedoen trigger a tivae a child instead

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@restive basin you can put colliders on particles so I don’t see why they couldn’t trigger, may take custom layer

restive basin Mar 30, 2018, 9:10 PM

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I'll try this. Thank you 😉

balmy zenith Mar 30, 2018, 9:39 PM

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Question: Does anyone know how to use prop api?

dark sigil Mar 30, 2018, 11:26 PM

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@sick lodge it's caused by the bloom with objects with impossible geometry such as scaling things to negative or scaling things to zero
not sure how it can be fixed though

warm niche Mar 30, 2018, 11:46 PM

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@sick lodge it's legacy shaders probably, the specular calculations on those are wrong and will blow out the bloom on maps with PP

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use the standard shader for metallic/reflective stuff .. it does the right calcs

cunning ore Mar 31, 2018, 12:04 AM

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So i started using FinalIK. I got to put down targets in the world space and hold them. How would i go about keeping rigid bodies with fixed joints in place and NOT hold down emote keys?

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it will be on an avatar btw

kindred kiln Mar 31, 2018, 12:06 AM

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A finalik user, nice. I still have to setup mine for my world

cunning ore Mar 31, 2018, 12:07 AM

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yeah. I got a placeable turret. Discovered having a target off of the head is as buggy as world space particals

kindred kiln Mar 31, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Oh

cunning ore Mar 31, 2018, 12:07 AM

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now as a new experiment i want to place down the finalIK targets

kindred kiln Mar 31, 2018, 12:08 AM

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Yeah, I bought it so I can use it to smooth out attack animations on npc

cunning ore Mar 31, 2018, 12:11 AM

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I been finding the vrc animations are overriding the IK. Friends are saying it has to do with script execution order which can be re-ordered before upload.

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A armature that is not the player should be fine but i never tested that.

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 2:26 AM

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is accessing _CameraDepthNormalsTexture impossible? I just get grey from it

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_CameraDepthTexture does work though

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 2:39 AM

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vrc is using the forward renderer afaik, which means that won't get written

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for VR most things use a forward renderer due to bandwidth concerns

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 2:40 AM

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so I guess if I want something like this I'll have to sample the texels next door to figure out the gradient somehow

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 2:40 AM

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yep, that's a common thing to do

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often simple displacement maps are what you get in a material, and that sampling is necessary to generate the normal in the first place, though it's a bit shittier in screen-space since you're not operating on a single material

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 2:42 AM

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yeah there are literal edge cases where I can't tell the difference between an object with a high slope and two objects

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 2:43 AM

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what I've done for SSAO and other things needing bilateral filtering is to use both the relative and absolute gradients

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works decently with enough tuning

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 2:48 AM

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I think first I would have to get the depth value in a usable state lol... right now it's like I get either 0.0 or 1.0

harsh nest Mar 31, 2018, 3:38 AM

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@sick lodge I think you are outputting color values greater than 1 (for any channel) and thus bloom kicks in

sick lodge Mar 31, 2018, 4:00 AM

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thats what i suspected too

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and impossible geometry also causes the problem

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so i'll need to look into both

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can i clamp my color values?

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sorry i don't into shaders much

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fixed4 c = tex2D (_MainTex, IN.uv_MainTex) * texCUBE(_Cube, IN.worldRefl) * _Color;
half rim = 1.0 - saturate(dot (normalize(IN.viewDir), o.Normal));
o.Albedo = c.rgb + (_RimColor.rgb * pow (rim, _RimPower));

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what the heck nevermind

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i guess the gloss value is bad on the standard surface shader

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i don't even know why i had that line in there

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problem 1 solved hehe

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 4:35 AM

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ok, so I'm mapping the screen coordinates correctly, and getting a depth value out, but I can't figure out how to convert the depth value I get into a useful depth that can be used to transform to world space

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 5:49 AM

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Using: UNITY_SAMPLE_DEPTH(tex2Dproj(_CameraDepthTexture, suv));
Result: https://imgur.com/a/nSh4M
Using: SAMPLE_DEPTH_TEXTURE(_CameraDepthTexture, suv);
Result: https://imgur.com/a/epp67

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so like, whatever alternative 1 is doing, the UV coords are right on the way in, but then the result I get is slightly off somehow, and whatever alternative 2 is doing, the UV coords are wrong, but the result I get seems to have values which transform correctly from there on

harsh nest Mar 31, 2018, 10:00 AM

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@sick lodge Iam doing this in my shader:
float m = max(o.Albedo .x, max(o.Albedo .y, o.Albedo.z));
if(m > 1) o.Albedo /= m;

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 10:07 AM

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closer... https://imgur.com/a/CPSaz

harsh nest Mar 31, 2018, 3:09 PM

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@normal aurora this seems to work for me https://gist.githubusercontent.com/netri/8f48994252f3437d9a22c9ae82cb9cb2/raw/00add539a1aa04f66d2abab8784472e991400a1f/World%2520Space%2520Position.shader

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 3:20 PM

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ok, so the difference is that mine is based on github.com/keijiro/DepthInverseProjection and it was using some esoteric maths to get the view position and then converting that to world position, and I wasn't able to figure out how it worked yet in order to check it

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whereas this one is using LinearEyeDepth somehow. I tried that previously too and could never get it to line up correctly

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but this one works. at least in non-VR

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I have no way to describe what's going on in VR without recording video lol

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 3:42 PM

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oh right I think it's just flipped UVs

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so my weird patterns, as it turns out, are due to computing the screen UV in the vertex shader. moving my existing logic unchanged to the fragment shader removes them

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the rest I'll have to figure out tomorrow because sleep is probably a better idea than coding at 3am lol

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 4:09 PM

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those two implementations are doing the same thing

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but one of them uses hardcoded vertex positions for a triangle covering the screen (the most efficient way to do a postprocessing draw call)

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and the other uses the actual input vertex positions

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and the other difference is that Neitri's is doing math in world space instead of view space (though it's the same math)

light lark Mar 31, 2018, 8:09 PM

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Hello, how can I make a cube where every time someone goes through, they activate a teleport trigger?

harsh nest Mar 31, 2018, 8:11 PM

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Does anyone have any idea how to make animation (Emote) that disables the animator that is playing it and/or ends up stuck ?
For example I want my fingerpen to be enabled only after I click Emote > Enable Fingerpen

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@light lark if you mean touch cube to teleport: Box Collider (IsTrigger: true), VRC_Trigger > OnEnterTrigger(AdvancedMode, Local) -> TeleportPlayer -> set target position GameObject in receivers

light lark Mar 31, 2018, 8:41 PM

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i did everything you told me however it still doesnt work

harsh nest Mar 31, 2018, 8:53 PM

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@light lark sorry, seems I missed, Layers: PlayerLocal

light lark Mar 31, 2018, 8:54 PM

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oh XD

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ok now it works

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@harsh nest thanks

cold minnow Mar 31, 2018, 9:24 PM

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What's the version of TextMesh that does work?

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Because the latest one doesn't work.

robust yarrow Mar 31, 2018, 9:55 PM

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i dont think textmesh works at all

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despite it being listed as supported

sand canyon Mar 31, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Ask around for people to give you their text shader

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 10:16 PM

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@odd fable something about the view space calculations makes it break in VR though. as soon as I replaced it with Neitri's world space ones, it lined up correctly.

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the view space calcs seem like they were doing more operations anyway, so it's probably faster this way too

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the bit that I don't really understand in both sets is the idea of having a direction vector which isn't normalised, and then using that for a calculation, and somehow getting the right result at the end, lol ...

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 11:26 PM

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@normal aurora the direction vector is actually not a direction vector, it's the vector from the view position to the point on the near plane representing that fragment

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you can see what LinearEyeDepth is doing in UnityCG.cginc

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goes back from depth in [0, 1] to clip space, where 0 is the camera position

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 11:30 PM

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nods

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 11:31 PM

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if you take that value and multiply by i.screenPosition.w, you end up with a depth from the camera where 1 is at the far plane

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if you take that value and multiply it by "worldDirection" scaled to the far plane and add it to the camera position, you get the position of the fragment

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imagine if it were right at the near plane, you'd multiply by 1

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what I just described is not quite what is done in the shader, but it's a bit easier to understand

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 11:33 PM

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yeah, so it's converting a 0~1 value to inf~1

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(more or less)

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that my normal maths apparently works as-is is surprising too, lol

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so only the pos was wrong the whole time and the little distortions just carried through

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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I don't know exactly what was going on in your case without experimenting with it, but I think probably some bad interpolation

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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yeah that was the case

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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I only really know GLSL, Cg is new to me

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 11:35 PM

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once I moved it out of the vertex shader it magically worked without the glitches

odd fable Mar 31, 2018, 11:46 PM

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actually a much easier way to think about it is that the screenPosition.w component is actually the distance to the near plane

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so you're simply normalizing the direction vector when you divide by it

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this normalization has to happen in the fragment shader tho

normal aurora Mar 31, 2018, 11:47 PM

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yeah

tired gate Apr 1, 2018, 12:11 AM

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How do you setup a drivable vehicle in a world? I've been experimenting with a few things, but haven't gotten anything working at all

sand canyon Apr 1, 2018, 12:15 AM

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Mimi's karts are pinned in worlds channel. Add pickup script to parent and uncheck pickupable to fix a sync bug on them.

tired gate Apr 1, 2018, 3:05 AM

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I've tried setting one up, but it falls through the world on load in

urban tapir Apr 1, 2018, 8:40 AM

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anyone know why a lens flare on a rotating directional light would jitter in vr?

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on desktop it doesn't jitter but on vr it shakes

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 8:57 AM

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@normal aurora the worldDirection bit is where Iam confused too, here is my take: if you look https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GLSL_Programming/Vertex_Transformations perspective projection, it seems the screenPosition.w contains distance to your pixel (and probably the same value that is then with some transformations saved into depth buffer), worldDirection contains direction to pixel in world space, depthBuffer is in clip space, we can use the 2 values to transform depthBuffer into world space direction, by doing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-multiplication => world space direction to pixel / pixel clip space depth = world space direction to depth buffer pixel / depth buffer clip space depth

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 10:39 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/CrLpdsT.png

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almost

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 10:58 AM

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@hot stone what are we looking at ? custom shader ?

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 10:58 AM

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yes

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plugging in some additional lambertian diffuse shadows seems to be what I was lacking

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or at least one of them

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flat lit toon:
https://i.imgur.com/oeNTuQZ.png
cbbt:
https://i.imgur.com/vxUVR6K.png

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excluding me having not plugged the lighting into outlines and such yet

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 12:50 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/lggYF3l.png

normal aurora Apr 1, 2018, 1:43 PM

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and of course _CameraDepthTexture isn't available in all worlds, and in the world where it isn't available, I end up filling the near plane with the effect, essentially hitting myself in the eyes

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 2:12 PM

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@normal aurora _CameraDepthTexture seems to be only available if the world has at least one (directional ?) light with shadows enabled

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 2:47 PM

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what shader variable is linked with unity's skybox intensity?

noble cypress Apr 1, 2018, 3:53 PM

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my mate and i are working on a small project (a world) and we were working with unitys collab function... actually pretty neat but when i add something to the scene when he is working on some models triggers or something, when i upload what i've added it deletes all his progress he made when he saves and loads my changes. because for me his changes didn't exist... thats not really collaborating thats just filesharing, we could do that with other websites aswell... is there like a plugin for unity or something that'd enable us to actually work together on different things in the same scene in realtime?

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 4:03 PM

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@hot stone you can probably find that in Unity's built-in skybox shader, which you can download on Unity web (Unity builtin shaders 5.6.5f1)

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 4:03 PM

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that's not it

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I've been fiddling with the built-in skybox settings for hours but they only link to the gradients

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 4:06 PM

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@hot stone I don't understand your question then

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 4:07 PM

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if the source is left as skybox there's a slider for multiplier which seems disconnected from the other values that'd otherwise be used for gradient

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https://i.imgur.com/AtVH4qe.png
https://i.imgur.com/y5o47kn.png

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I can set up lighting to work with a static intensity multiplier and/or to use the gradients, but there doesn't seem to be a value for the skybox intensity anywhere

harsh nest Apr 1, 2018, 4:11 PM

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No clue, but for my shaders to work with skybox I copied the lighting/global illumination code generated by ShaderForge PBL shader

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 4:11 PM

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don't have it

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I'm writing everything manually

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i'm not even a coder

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but I guess I've made it this far

normal aurora Apr 1, 2018, 5:13 PM

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you can get it from the compiled result of a surface shader too

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I still have to figure out why my shadows don't work despite using proper lighting calls everywhere

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but I'll almost certainly deal with it by copying from what happens in a surface shader

warm niche Apr 1, 2018, 5:29 PM

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hey guys

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how do you apply a shader to just the eyes

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?

hot stone Apr 1, 2018, 6:46 PM

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if the eyes are a separate material you can find the eye material if it already exists and change the shader

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alternatively you can create a new material and drag/drop it onto the eyes in the viewport

tired gate Apr 1, 2018, 11:37 PM

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How do you make flying vehicles for a world?

sand canyon Apr 1, 2018, 11:47 PM

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There is a Jet in standard assets. It does work in vrchat but I found it hard to control, didn’t do a ton with it. For jet pack type flight I think people have used the constant force component.

tired gate Apr 1, 2018, 11:50 PM

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hmmm, I'll mess around with it then, see if I can get it working

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One issue I've been having with vehicles is that after activating the trigger that enables the car controller and carusercontrol, it only works for a split second, and to get any sort of motion I have to spam click the button while pressing where I wish to go

normal aurora Apr 2, 2018, 12:49 AM

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the jetpack stuff is so much easier than actual vehicles too. the only way it could be better would be if auto-hold worked

dull shard Apr 2, 2018, 1:52 AM

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Is it possible to add an audio listener to a microphone object that can transfer to an audio source somewhere else?

runic mauve Apr 2, 2018, 2:01 AM

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@dull shard not yet

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alot people want mircophone feature

dull shard Apr 2, 2018, 2:06 AM

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I see thanks. Is this due to the limitations on VRChat or the oudated Unity version that VRChat uses?

runic mauve Apr 2, 2018, 2:07 AM

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@dull shard nah it would be more like need to be script need to made for it

golden jackal Apr 2, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Does anyone in here make custom avatars?

warm niche Apr 2, 2018, 3:22 AM

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hello

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help me pls

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how do you move an item into another heierarchy in blender?

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i cant join my items because they are in seperate heierarchys

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it wont let me drag and drop like in unity

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and control J is disabled because seperate trees

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you cannot join items that are in seperate trees

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and i cant figure out how to assign the item to another tree

golden jackal Apr 2, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Does anyone here make quality custom avatars??

grim pasture Apr 2, 2018, 3:44 AM

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@golden jackal Try asking in the avatar channel.

boreal flame Apr 2, 2018, 5:54 AM

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how to make those laser beam particle things on gesture

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where it can hit stuff and create hit particles and draw laser beam

forest wagon Apr 2, 2018, 10:43 AM

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@golden jackal What do you refer to "quality" and "custom avatars" ? From scratch? High Quality?

robust yarrow Apr 2, 2018, 11:08 AM

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will all triggers set to always buffer one or always unbuffered stay local if they are activated by a separate local trigger?
Also, is there any way to stop a trigger from bugging out from multiple players going into the enter trigger? would this be always buffer one?

bleak tendon Apr 2, 2018, 11:34 AM

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@robust yarrow When something is on always buffer one but is activated from a local only trigger then it triggers for everybody.
I don't quite get the other questions

robust yarrow Apr 2, 2018, 11:35 AM

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ok thats great thanks 😃

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as for the other question, i have some enter triggers that get stuck in a loop after a few minutes by players walking into it that area (even with the enter trigger object turned off).

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it feels like it builds a queue for triggers

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and then plays them endlessly when its reactivated

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i've made a work around now where I just animate the enter trigger object off the map when i would normally have it turned off

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(still need to test that though)

bleak tendon Apr 2, 2018, 11:37 AM

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I still don't quite get it, I probably would need to see it for myself to fully understand

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but are you using an animator to handle the logic, or do you use trigger trigger logic

robust yarrow Apr 2, 2018, 11:41 AM

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its me being bad at explaining things 😛
I have a box collider (is trigger) with mesh renderer off.
The vrc_trigger is set to enter trigger (always buffer one) that activates an animation bool for Object A, it also turns a few other objects on that disable the enter trigger.
Object A plays a new animation and transitions into a new idle state and a new interaction object is enabled.
clicking this interaction object triggers a new animation on Object A which ends with it looping back to the original idle animation.
The interaction trigger also turns itself off and re-enables the enter trigger object to let players repeat this process.

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The problem i had yesterday when testing it with 2 other players is that Object A got stuck in a loop as if the enter trigger was being restarted constantly

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so Object A would go from Original idle > animation bool turned on > 2nd idle > animation bool off > original idle

bleak tendon Apr 2, 2018, 11:53 AM

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boi this is a hard one but I think I understand the situation

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I assume you used only triggers for the activation of the animation

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maybe try to change it to triggers instead of bool and see if that still happens, that would mean, that the enter trigger is indeed beeing constantly triggered

robust yarrow Apr 2, 2018, 11:58 AM

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will try animation triggers out 😃 sorry about the confusing explanations XD

bleak tendon Apr 2, 2018, 12:01 PM

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Nah it was actually well explained

warm niche Apr 2, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Hello

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Can someone link me a guide on seperating the hair and eyes from a texture atlas

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I tried to do it but it doesnt work

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And #tutorials and youtube have nothing

dark sigil Apr 2, 2018, 6:47 PM

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separate the hair and eyes from the mesh and hide them

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then recombine the other meshes and atlas that mesh

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when you're done atlasing you can recombine everything

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Make sure you're atlasing the correct mesh (the one that has everything you want to atlas)

winged lintel Apr 2, 2018, 7:08 PM

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so, quick question. is there a way to change the pose for sitting in a world

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I forget if that was something that could be done or not

sand canyon Apr 2, 2018, 7:32 PM

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@winged lintel Flashfire in an avatar or in the chair script?

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You can do it in the station script,yes

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And I believe also avatar but that's not my bailiwick

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For chair script: make an animator controller for your chair. Put the sitting clip in it--you can use Mixamo clips or poses, just Configure Rig when you import the fbx. Put that animator controller in the Station script on the chair.

warm niche Apr 2, 2018, 7:55 PM

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Thanks @dark sigil

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Tupper needs to fix his videos

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Seperating eyes and hair from the atlas should be standard practice

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And proper heirarchies

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And crouching pose fix

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I know how to do them now

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But he doesnt say anything about them

sand canyon Apr 2, 2018, 8:03 PM

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K, make your own tutorial!

dark sigil Apr 2, 2018, 8:04 PM

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you don't need to separate anything from the atlas

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unless you want special shaders on them or something

winged lintel Apr 2, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Thanks Fionna, that helps

warm niche Apr 2, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@dark sigil eyes and hair should always be seperated

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Should be standard practice

dark sigil Apr 2, 2018, 8:12 PM

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??

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How so

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Everything should always be one mesh to reduce draw calls

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It's fine if you want multiple materials which is best kept at ~1-4

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There's no reason to have separate meshes for avatars

hazy spear Apr 2, 2018, 9:06 PM

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anyone knows a way of converting IES files into a png and maybe with alpha channel

robust yarrow Apr 2, 2018, 9:56 PM

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why separate them? I can understand with hair if you want to use cutout etc but eyes can stay on the same atlas

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(you can get hair working within the same atlas too if cutout doesnt mess with the rest of the areas)

tired gate Apr 2, 2018, 10:21 PM

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How do you create a jetpack similar to what is used in the Test run map? I've tried messing around with the constant force component but couldn't get anything working properly

sick forge Apr 2, 2018, 10:40 PM

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Are we currently capable of rendering to just one eye of a VR user? Say I want an object to only appear on the right eye of a VR user.

drifting egret Apr 2, 2018, 11:20 PM

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This may be way over my head, but is there a way to make a shader that makes something only render for specific hardware ID's? Or perhaps the inverse better yet, something that shows up for everyone except if the hardware ID matches

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Since a lot is available to you in those shaders, I was wondering if there's a way to get a unique ID of some sort and test against it

warm niche Apr 3, 2018, 12:56 AM

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@drifting egret https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/SL-ShaderCompileTargets.html

crisp pendant Apr 3, 2018, 1:06 AM

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What are ways to disable an avatar's full body tracking?

sick forge Apr 3, 2018, 1:12 AM

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remove the skeleton

warm niche Apr 3, 2018, 1:34 AM

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hey guys

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how do i put objects inside my character

crisp pendant Apr 3, 2018, 2:07 AM

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First you get his consent

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I'm sorry

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Just drag and drop

harsh nest Apr 3, 2018, 4:24 AM

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@tired gate I replicated the jet from test run world, I used configurable joints for both the rotation and thrust.

lethal girder Apr 3, 2018, 4:55 AM

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@sick forge , any luck with rendering to only one eye? i've been looking too

silent cape Apr 3, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Is it possible (And if it is, how would i do it) to have your view point on your models finger for example, and have it so when you are in vr, and you move your finger, the view point moves with it?

tired gate Apr 3, 2018, 5:01 AM

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Hmm, alright, I'll try messing around with the joints

normal aurora Apr 3, 2018, 7:45 AM

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unity_StereoEyeIndex definitely works for rendering to only one eye, it’s the way the stereoscopic pictures/videos work

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There are examples in the pinned messages even

cold oyster Apr 3, 2018, 11:44 AM

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@silent cape first thing I'd think of would be your head would have to be in your finger. If you'd want your head to follow your hand around when you move, ya might have to mess with joints.

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@warm niche if you're talking about how some people put memes inside their body, they just put the object inside their mesh and weight paint it properly

silent cape Apr 3, 2018, 2:05 PM

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ah, i will try that, thanks for the help @cold oyster

cold oyster Apr 3, 2018, 2:12 PM

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@silent cape yep. Also what I meant by head being in your finger was your head bone, just to clarify

silent cape Apr 3, 2018, 2:13 PM

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so, i would gobinto the rigging, and chang the finger bone to the head one?

warm niche Apr 3, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Oh ok ty

warm niche Apr 3, 2018, 4:00 PM

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@cold oyster so i just throw an extra bone inside go into pose mode and set automatic weights?

cold oyster Apr 3, 2018, 4:16 PM

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I've personally never done it. I'm pretty sure your view point follows your head bone so I would try to get a head bone into your finger somehow. Hopefully you're somewhat knowledgeable about rigging and how bones work @silent cape

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@warm niche if you want to just put a plane or a circle inside your chest, just put it inside of your chest and paint it 1 to the chest bone. If you want it to follow your head bone, just paint it 1 to your head bone

silent cape Apr 3, 2018, 4:53 PM

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@cold oyster im not, but i have lots of spare time to figure it out, XD

cold oyster Apr 3, 2018, 4:53 PM

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xd

crisp pendant Apr 3, 2018, 8:46 PM

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Why is unity unable to find my dynamic bone and vrc pipeline manage scripts?

north dust Apr 3, 2018, 9:37 PM

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yo
i need help bad
so basically, i need to knokw how to have a model copy my main avatar's animations down to the tee. meaning i need it to copy all translations or whatever. to give context i have one model that has itt's right arm invisible, and the other inverse, only right arm is seen. then, i want the one with only the right arm to copy all my movements so it seems like the arm is just normal
any help?

drifting egret Apr 3, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Is this in an emote?

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Why do you need to do this?

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If you explain what you want to achieve, there could be easier alternatives than whatever you're trying to cook up

north dust Apr 3, 2018, 10:18 PM

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ok

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so basicaly

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i have a trump avatar that can hold a revolver, but i dont have vr

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so i have aparticle stand like arm holding it for me

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i can handle making the aiming system etc

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BUT

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what i want to happen, is to have a mcree model, and have his arm hold the gun and move like im aiming it, and to have it fire where im looking

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ive already got that whole aiming thing down

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but i cant just have mcree's arm appearing, and not having his right arm dissappear

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meaning, that i dont want my mcree havin 3 fuccin arms lol

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so i have 2 models now

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one with invis right arm

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and one where right arm is all thats visible

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i want the one with the right arm visible to copy my avatar's movements and animations etc so that it looks like my arm never changed

drifting egret Apr 3, 2018, 10:24 PM

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Well, there are several options. You could make the right arm a separate mesh, and enable/disable its skinned mesh renderer in an animation.

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You can just select the right arm in Blender and make it a separate mesh

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You could shrink it down in a shape key so it's basically invisible, but that might look a little weird. Shape keys are smoothed out in gestures, which means that you'd see your arm shrink/grow as it disappears or reappears.

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If you want two different arms to follow the same movement, you'll have to use Joints in Unity to synchronize the arm movement. Or you can put both right arms on the same bones.

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There's a pretty good chance that both arms are already weight painted correctly, and that they will already move correctly if you position the bones correctly.

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I personally think joints would be the easiest approach though

north dust Apr 3, 2018, 10:45 PM

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putting fixed joints on all bones, including the fingers, and mapping the rigidbodies on them to the main rig's bones?

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i thought about doing that

sand canyon Apr 3, 2018, 10:54 PM

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FYI political avatars are against community guidelines.

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Can avatar animations use avatar masks?

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That can be done with an arm

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But one approach is to have three meshes: body, normal arm, aiming arm. Turn off the one you don’t want.

fierce python Apr 3, 2018, 11:13 PM

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Satirical avatars imitating politicians are not illegal in anyway, this is just comedy. Doing the wrong things like advertise and straight out threatening i.e. executing them is illegal from what i see.

sand canyon Apr 3, 2018, 11:15 PM

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https://vrchat.com/community

fierce python Apr 3, 2018, 11:17 PM

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Just as i said, as long as it is comedy based you can use any avatars

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Talking and promoting or having any illegal intent is banable

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Politics*

sand canyon Apr 3, 2018, 11:18 PM

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I’m not a mod, but I know worlds have been denied for having political avatars. 🤷🏼‍♀️

fierce python Apr 3, 2018, 11:20 PM

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May be some emotes and also the risk of it spreading to become a political view behind it.

sand canyon Apr 3, 2018, 11:20 PM

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Does anyone have a way to mocap in game?

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I have an animation to make of someone drawing and I can’t think of an easy way to make it.

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Found references to 4month old thing, anyone used it? Q's VRChat MoCap animation?

autumn hatch Apr 3, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Seen in used like once back in 5.3

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https://github.com/MrQ89/VRCMotionCapture

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Think it should?

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Said it was updated to 5.6

sand canyon Apr 4, 2018, 12:21 AM

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downside is you have to use a generic rig

runic mauve Apr 4, 2018, 12:33 AM

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@mighty gorge they use mimi avatar for it before it just has be your avatar

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it record the data make into animation file

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Q would know more of it he one who made it

sand canyon Apr 4, 2018, 12:40 AM

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this plus Unity Runtime Recorder and I will never have to hand-animate ever again!

winged lintel Apr 4, 2018, 12:55 AM

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So, I got a issue with my spawner

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I'm trying to get my vehicle prefab working for others, but it seems only to move for the first one in the room

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I set the trigger to sendRPC to the spawner, and set the targets to "owner"

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also was set to alwaysbufferone

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wait, might have figured this out actually. Forgot that there was the SpawnObject trigger instead

blissful walrus Apr 4, 2018, 5:58 PM

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That was used so i could capture sign language for people to learn but Q wants to update it so it can work with humanoid animations so you can swap the avatar you use. If it still works you use the avatar you want to animate and can't swap it

warm niche Apr 4, 2018, 10:54 PM

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@cold oyster what do you mean paint an object as 1 to a bone?

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has logging in with 2 clients been disabled? I used to use one client to film another client one in PC and one in VR, is this still possible, or is one account able to login from one location now? Thanks

warm niche Apr 4, 2018, 11:22 PM

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also all webpanels seem to be Whitescreen today not sure if this is for everyone, or just my connection

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resetting client fixed whitescreened panels

low peak Apr 5, 2018, 1:48 AM

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Im trying to think up, what would be a cool, aoe effect

cold oyster Apr 5, 2018, 3:39 AM

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@warm niche if you’ve weight painted before you should know that you can only paint from zero to one. As long as you paint it it’ll follow. You’ll have to make it a child of the armature as well

warm niche Apr 5, 2018, 6:21 AM

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o ty

rough sleet Apr 5, 2018, 7:37 AM

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https://vrcat.club/threads/making-final-ik-behave-correctly-on-avatars.1449/

remote wind Apr 5, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Whoa.. Does this work? I had no idea you could do your own IK

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It is my understanding that full body does not use the VRIK component, does this make the process more complicated?

rough sleet Apr 5, 2018, 7:14 PM

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@remote wind Yeah, full-body requires a different technique.

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VR IK is used for 3 or 4 point tracking.

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While full-body (6 point) tracking uses FBB IK.

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It might work to just replace the VR IK component with a FBB IK component.

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It depends whether VRChat overwrites the FBB IK's settings the same way it does for VR IK.

remote wind Apr 5, 2018, 7:53 PM

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Makes sense

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 8:47 PM

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Should I be placing VRC_World on the player layer?

autumn hatch Apr 5, 2018, 8:48 PM

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No, you shouldn't have to mess around with layers on it

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 8:50 PM

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So when the player spawns, they are considered players (layer) or playerlocal?

autumn hatch Apr 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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Your own player agent is PlayerLocal while every other users agents are Player

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 8:51 PM

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ahh

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 9:21 PM

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@autumn hatch do you know how to sync an object to a playerlocal?

autumn hatch Apr 5, 2018, 9:22 PM

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Do you mean how to sync objects between players?

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 9:23 PM

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yes

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or more like: connecting an object to a player on spawn

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For example, I created a health bar

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but I want to sync it to a player

autumn hatch Apr 5, 2018, 9:25 PM

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You'll probably have to do some trigger logic and set the broadcast type to local

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So the triggers only occur on your client

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 9:26 PM

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sadly, others wont be able to see it?

autumn hatch Apr 5, 2018, 9:44 PM

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Really depends on how you manage to set it up

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Also you cannot attach gameobjects to individual players

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unless you force them to carry something with them

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:15 PM

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It is possible to spawn a prefab type thing for each spawn that's basically a station/vehicle/character controller this way in theory

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every spawned in player activates a new one

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I'd love to work on this but I went and broke my world tyring to optimize

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:37 PM

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ouch

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I am working on that right now

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my idea was the same as yours fionna

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Spawn in >> onEntertrigger>>> VRC_Station set to: Unseated, mobile (No exit) >>>

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:39 PM

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can you walk around in that case?

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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yes

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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does the station stay with you though

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:40 PM

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no

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Well, I may have messed up

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but it didnt stay with me

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:41 PM

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I know that controllers can work such that you walk around and they mimic your motions, since I've gotten buggy vehicles and ball controllers to do that by accident.

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:41 PM

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oh?

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How did you do it?

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I just need to add a collider to that if anything

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:42 PM

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Mimi had a mech world at the last dev meetup. Their sync was a little broken so people could control three at once like an army

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someone exited one and it maintained ownership and walked around mimicking them

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that was a third person controller she said

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i don't recommend ball controller, lol. I got the world's worst hoverboard on one of those

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:44 PM

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hmmm

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how about rigid body first person controller?

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 10:44 PM

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i would start there or third person maybe yes

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 10:46 PM

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So I do the same thing as what I did with the VRC_Station

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but add the first person controller to it?

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 11:25 PM

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@sand canyon if you use the first person controller

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and attach an object with a mesh with the animator of health

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it seems to work

sand canyon Apr 5, 2018, 11:25 PM

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nice!

tidal light Apr 5, 2018, 11:25 PM

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going to do more test to see how out of sync/ wonky it is

tidal light Apr 6, 2018, 12:12 AM

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@forest wagon yeah it is not

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playerlocal affects you

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and player is what affects other player than the player themselves

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I tested it and it helped fix my teleport trigger problems

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@sand canyon I tried it, but it didnt follow

sand canyon Apr 6, 2018, 12:16 AM

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yeah figures

tidal light Apr 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

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I think I can just do a primitive form of it

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using camera

sand canyon Apr 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

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So people have been trying to get a HUD working. This seems similar.

tidal light Apr 6, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Have they gotten it to work>?

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well, I think I will just do an interact-able cube that will link a player to that cube with take ownership

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and that cube is set to local

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so only the person themselves can see it

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and then teleport just the player to the adventure world

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and the only way they can see their hp is by turning on the camera that shows the cubes hp

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through the onPickupUseDown

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I set the camera to toggle

sand canyon Apr 6, 2018, 12:23 AM

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Is there a standard layer that only stops avatar movement but lets other colliders through? (Opposite of walkthrough)

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oh i can just look nvm

tidal light Apr 6, 2018, 12:24 AM

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unsure L:D

sand canyon Apr 6, 2018, 12:25 AM

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nope I'd have to make one

forest wagon Apr 6, 2018, 12:26 AM

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anyone good with shaders could dm me? ~ appreciated (just got a question)

drifting egret Apr 6, 2018, 12:36 AM

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IME nobody will probably DM you, just ask your question here and you will be better off

glass field Apr 6, 2018, 1:29 AM

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anyone with some experience with texture atlasing / materials in here willing to help me figure out WTF is going on with this one material?

woven cargo Apr 6, 2018, 2:16 AM

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Hey guys, I have an issue with an avatar.

I have 5 elements on the mesh, and I am making an animation that essentially changes materials to their duplicated with different settings and shader with an animation override. When I place all materials to the timeline by making a keyframe, for the first time everything is set right, but when I open the .anim file again, materials are swapped all over the place that are incorrect, and there is no way to avoid it. I have been figuring this out for about 2 hours and couldn't find any resolution. I'd really appreciate your help.
https://gfycat.com/IncomparableHalfAmazonparrot

gritty shore Apr 6, 2018, 2:45 AM

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I actually need help with Unity and VRchat recognizing Feet IK

sick verge Apr 6, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Does anyone here know when making a chair that uses a custom 'animator controller', what are the needed steps and/or settings needed to be made to allow hand gestures to work properly?

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 8:27 AM

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Can you make a world portal that connects stuff with the same instance number?

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Example if I were to make a mario 64 hub

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And wanted people to go to bob-omb battle field

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I'd want invite+#1000

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To lead to invite+#1000

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And bacj

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to link bigger maps

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Is that possible at the moment?

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PM or ping me is anyone knows

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:37 AM

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I had this saved from earlier on how you can format VRC world links to create specific instance types

Invite
vrchat://launch?id={worldId}:~private

Invite+
vrchat://launch?id={worldId}:~private~canRequestInvite

Friends
vrchat://launch?id={worldId}:~friends

Friends+
vrchat://launch?id={worldId}:~hidden

So if you were to create an in-game link you could format it like this WORLDID:6081:~private~canRequestInvite to create a portal that leads to a world with instance number 6081 and invite+ type. @wary path

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I haven't tried it myself on ingame portals yet, but I don't see why it shouldn't work

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:38 AM

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However what if there were multiple people in instance 1000 and mulipleinstances in 1001

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Would both those portals lead to 1000

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Or would they lead to their indivdual instance names

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That is what I want

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So private worlds can explore without having to rendezvous or step on other peoples toes

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:39 AM

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As long there are free slots in instance 1000, no matter which instanced world you would enter from, you would end up in the same destination.

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:39 AM

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Fuck, yeah thats not what I'd want

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If only I could resolve this lighting and fog issue I wouldn't need to try and make portal work arounds

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Since atm you can't change fog render settings with a vrc trigger

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And the further you get from the map origin, the shadow quality starts fucking up

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:41 AM

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I don't know if this will work in your case, or if it works at all, but couldn't you use the trigger system and animators to change the clipping distance on a reference camera and use that as the fog?

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:41 AM

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I wonder if I can build prefabs by manually writing the YAML file

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I have like 200 songs that I want in a playlist and no obvious way to do it otherwise

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I'm using the lighting system fog at the moment, not because of far clip issues but for atmosphere

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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Like you always have unity fog enabled, but dynamically change the far clipping distance to make the fog "thicker"

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:42 AM

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I could go completely without fog but I feel like that would ruin the enviroment

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Kokiri Forest definitely needs it, since thats how it is in the game

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Makes it feel more dense

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:43 AM

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Absolutely :o

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:43 AM

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I'd just need to make sky domes for each part

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But any sort of issues regarding performance, or lighting quality, would even be solved with just being able to link portals to the owner's instance

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I don't want the quality of my map to be low, I've seen enough as it is that get off on just being "good enough"

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Thankfully with the reactions, the videos, and even the bug reports, it's all encouraging

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:45 AM

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fog shaders are a thing too, right? fetch depth texture and use that to determine how much to white out the pixel

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and you could adjust the density of it based on world position

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:45 AM

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I'm not sure if that is possible without scripting though

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I'd also need to change the color depending

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On where you're at

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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shaders have access to camera position

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Hyrule field is naturally a bit less fog, more just a horizon blur

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Could set up local triggers to animate shader properties worst case

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:46 AM

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Gerudo valley has a lot of dust and is yellowish

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Truth be told I'm not good at shaders

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:47 AM

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Have you been to the dev meetup events? Might find someone there

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:47 AM

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I work too often to be able to attend everything

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anything***

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:48 AM

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I just spent days trying to convert a recursive shader into a non-recursive version only to realise that Cg lacks all the other features I would usually use for that purpose too

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:48 AM

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I'm a bit worried about performance too, but the performance is going to be bad regardless of how big or optimized I make my map

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Just because of the current state of VRchat

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:49 AM

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nnn... yeah, tell me about it, my prototype runs in 300-400fps in unity but I can barely get a stable 45fps in VRChat

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where is the rest of the time going if it isn't running my shader? :/

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:50 AM

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Sweetspot seems to be around 25 players, more or less depending on how heavy the world is itself (And player avatars of course)

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:51 AM

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and like I'm comparing the times with 1 person standing in a test world

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:51 AM

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That reminds me

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Maybe I should redo my map entirely

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:51 AM

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so it only has to render the avatar and one object with my shader on it, and it's still slow

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:51 AM

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And use cats to delete duplicate materials

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I imagine that would severely reduce the draw calls on my map too

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Even though my map runs fine

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 9:52 AM

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That would allow for more people to be in it before frames start tanking, yeah

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:52 AM

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I mean the entire zone

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Dungeons included

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are under even the avatar limit

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Wait no that wouldnt work

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They're not considered the same material

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I'd need to manually assign each material

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At the moment the road block is two things

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Making it so I can click on a picture to use an avatar pedestal instead of the default shit

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And finding a way to link zones together seamlessly, whether or not it requires physically loading into another instance

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 9:56 AM

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browsing the docs, I come across this page called VRC_IKFollower which is really exciting until you see the "(proposed)" text lol

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so anyway, there is an RPC you can send to an avatar pedestal to make the user change avatar in response to some other trigger

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so presumably you can just wire that up to an OnInteract on anything else

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 9:59 AM

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I've tried that with no effect

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I also need to figure out what exactly I need to have interact triggers work for vr users

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Is it literally just having the trigger collider you interact with set to interactive in the layers

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 AM

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VR users cannot interact with triggers if it's inside another trigger volume

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Desktop users do not have this problem

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 AM

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I haven't been doing anything special with my buttons

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 AM

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I'm not sure how right that is because I've done that using like

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A janky method of putting the trigger as a rigid body

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 10:01 AM

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I've done testing of it myself and I had friends confirm it, so that is right.

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You also might need thicker colliders for vr users, so they're easier to actually highlight

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As you need to put your controller inside the trigger volume

normal aurora Apr 6, 2018, 10:03 AM

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there is that .. like don't make door handles as thin as the ones in the void club used to be

wary path Apr 6, 2018, 10:04 AM

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Maybe I just need to completely refactor the map

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It's becoming a bit of a mess

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Just like the menu

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Spiderwebs coming off the menu because of canvas origin

earnest dune Apr 6, 2018, 2:14 PM

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Don't forget to mark your objects as static if they don't move though, if they do move, ensure your shader has instancing enabled if it is supported, and a lot of duplicate items are present

sand canyon Apr 6, 2018, 5:57 PM

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@normal aurora I have a few interacts that use hidden pedestals

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I can show you trigger setup later if you want

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Sorry wrong tag @wary path

autumn hatch Apr 6, 2018, 6:18 PM

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As with pretty much all unity games, yes

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Also try to not ping all chat mods for questions like these

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We're not tech support, though some of us do know stuff

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Thanks

burnt anchor Apr 6, 2018, 6:44 PM

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Anyone knows good settings for disortion shader as particle?

silent cape Apr 6, 2018, 8:35 PM

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Wondering if binaural microphones work in Vrchat, has anyone here tested this?

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 8:59 PM

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mic is mono afaik

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but you can put binaural audio clips in your worlds or avatars

low peak Apr 6, 2018, 9:03 PM

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Do you have an ear shaped adapter for your microphone? Quality shouldn't be an issue, while bitrate is like 24k, Opus has some pretty impressive compression.

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But, yea you only get mono, and you probably need stereo to get the full binaural effect.

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 9:07 PM

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it won't work in mono at all

low peak Apr 6, 2018, 9:09 PM

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Maybe if you had 2 avatars close enough, and fed 1 channel to each..

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 9:18 PM

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the delays would still destroy the psycho acoustic effect

tulip fractal Apr 6, 2018, 9:18 PM

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If a shader chooses a random value, does the same value get chosen for all clients, or does vary from person to person?

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 9:19 PM

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everything in a shader is local

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also depends on what the definition of random is

tulip fractal Apr 6, 2018, 9:20 PM

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That's what I figured, just wanted to make sure.

low peak Apr 6, 2018, 9:48 PM

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Would it be possible to share information between players and shaders?

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 9:59 PM

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there is some unity variables you can access in a shader for syncing up things

forest wagon Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 PM

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I think the random value is local

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So its a random value for each player on their own

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So random(1 to 50) would mean Player 1 gets 24 and Player 2 gets 17

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same thing happens with particle systems

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 PM

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sharing stuff between shaders would be through writing a rendertarget in one shader and reading it in the other

forest wagon Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 PM

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^ you mean like with stencils?

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 PM

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but never between connected players

forest wagon Apr 6, 2018, 10:00 PM

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the ref value can be used to reveal other stencils

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because most people use ref 1 in stencils

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funnily

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 10:01 PM

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yeah like stencils but with a pixel/rendertarget buffer

forest wagon Apr 6, 2018, 10:01 PM

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i see

warm niche Apr 6, 2018, 10:02 PM

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you are writing rgba but you can read/write them as 4 floats to store stuff

crisp pendant Apr 7, 2018, 12:32 AM

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Is there any difference in performance in several dynamic bone scripts across several bone chains vs. one script over the root of all the bone chains?

autumn hatch Apr 7, 2018, 12:57 AM

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The number of dynamic bone components you use don't matter at all performance wise

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What matters is the total number of bones that get physicalized

normal aurora Apr 7, 2018, 6:10 AM

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this shader is taking a while to compile...

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getting around the lack of recursion by cloning the method 10 times and calling the next one down for each

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what could possibly go wrong?

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if it tries to inline everything it might get a shock

rough sleet Apr 7, 2018, 6:20 AM

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@normal aurora HLSL always compiles function calls as inline.

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According to this: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb509607(v=vs.85).aspx

normal aurora Apr 7, 2018, 6:21 AM

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nice, lol... waiting for it to explode then

rough sleet Apr 7, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Since VRChat's running in DX11 Unity compiles the shader into HLSL.

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What are you doing that you need recursion in a shader?

normal aurora Apr 7, 2018, 6:22 AM

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fractals

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there are other ways, this was just an experiment

rough sleet Apr 7, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Ah

normal aurora Apr 7, 2018, 6:23 AM

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the iterative ray marching I was doing wasn't quite getting the performance I wanted in-game so I figured I'd step back and see if any other approaches would work

normal aurora Apr 7, 2018, 6:47 AM

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lol, "Internal error communicating with the shader compiler process"