ios-dev

[bold bluff]

first

[acoustic belfry]

second

[ember ginkgo]

dang it! third

[wise sedge]

Oh hi!

[ember ginkgo]

we have a space! woohoo!

[acoustic belfry]

peak btw

[proven mica]

nth

[ember ginkgo]

did you really just pull an ngon on us

[proven mica]

And I'll do it again!

[bold bluff]

don't tempt him

[ember ginkgo]

lol

[restive ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-spying-anime-stare-gee-deadpan-girl-animegirl-deadeye-gif-2464270731135714822

[acoustic belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-cat-funny-cat-flashbang-flashbang-gif-8479999063609699416

[strong wigeon]

waow new channel on testflight revival day

[hollow bobcat]

Last 🧙‍♂️

[quaint lodge]

wew

[frank stag]

This will help us for those who don't have ios, but which to build for it.

[sterile fossil]

I volunteer to be a tester for anyone who needs me for iOS builds, avatars and worlds

[molten patrol]

20th

[next lynx]

first

[river ember]

I signed up for it got nothing no email

[sterile fossil]

pinned #ios-discussion

I really hope we don't need to bring the bot here too

[restive ridge]

You got to be kidding me...

[dense grotto]

bruh this has to stop

[ashen hatch]

When is vrchat coming to iOS

[wise sedge]

#ios-info

[ember ginkgo]

if you build it, they will come lol

[dense grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-loud-scream-girl-kid-hispanic-girl-gif-3761151244536557927

[ashen hatch]

Take that as a no lol

[ember ginkgo]

sigh. this channel isn’t even 24 hours old and it’s already completely off topic 🙁

[river ember]

Huh no idea what that implies

[restive ridge]

Yeah sadly...

[restive ridge]

Think!

[restive ridge]

It implies you need to read, this channel is brand new

[river ember]

Bet

Do we think this will come to IOS soon?

[ember ginkgo]

don’t care when it comes. this channel is not about that topic. this place is for the discussion of creating worlds and avatars that perform well on ios

[river ember]

Oki

[ember ginkgo]

now i understand why the other channels go bazerk when you ask an ios related question. i just didnt see it until now lol

[restive ridge]

Lol

[dense grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[neon stump]

hi

[fervent beacon]

[wintry badger]

why is ts on my suggested I dont even use ios 😭

[safe geyser]

New channels do that

[restive ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-upset-violin-sponge-bob-mr-crab-gif-3530280

[scarlet sleet]

57\

[alpine vigil]

Why ams I here

I don’t remember getting any email about iOS beta

[safe geyser]

The iOS Closed Beta channels are public, you don't need a role for it. This channel was recently created which Discord puts it into a "Suggested" area

[quiet moat]

https://tenor.com/view/giant-fatass-bnuuy-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-rabbit-whatever-gif-15720990188084548831

[twin birch]

Hey guys I’m new to this Discord and VRChat as a whole but I heard on YouTube that VRChat is coming to mobile including iOS. I have a iPhone and I was wondering how can I join the Closed Beta, or if I missed it how can I join the next test for VRChat iOS? I hope what I said made sense and any answers to my questions will be greatly appreciated!

[safe geyser]

Apple has a limit of 10,000 user per testflight, and VRChat already hit the cap unfortunately. You'll need to wait for the official App Store's release most likely

[twin birch]

Ah gotcha thanks for replying though

[fading tartan]

Ah

[ruby vapor]

bruh

[strong marsh]

When will the app release or expected release

[safe geyser]

Would be stated in #ios-info if there was an ETA. However the TOS recently updated with iOS related terms, so it’s probably not too far (speculation)

[strong marsh]

Thx ^^

[dense grotto]

So many good people here while I’m just standing around shaking my head lmao

[ember ginkgo]

[video] i’m working on a new world map and was wondering if you all knew which one is the video player framework that is currently working on ios. also on that working player are there any gotchas i should be aware of for the platform.

[tight solar]

H

[low mortar]

Working? Yes. Stable? Naaah. But maybe the new iOS update would (hopefully) fix some issues

There are reports of colors being funky and even video screen upside down haha

[sterile fossil]

Working is a stretch as Jantso says, this is through ProTV
There’s video stream but no audio stream the last time I checked, the contrast and saturation is CRANKED on some worlds

Right is with the colour correction off

[placid wren]

Meow?

[ember ginkgo]

thank you @low mortar and @sterile fossil , i thought i had seen a working one (sound and audio), but i may be hallucinating lol. i was probably on android and my memories are confused

[loud iris]

Is vr chat on iOS supported on iPhone 16, I didn’t see it on the list?

[safe geyser]

The survey was made before the 16 series existed. However that survey is just how they get the device distribution equal for the beta, but it won’t lock you to that device. Your closest device would be a 15 Pro

[low mortar]

this was on FAQ if you would read it

#ios-discussion message

[loud iris]

Didn’t see anything about the base model iPhone 16.

[low mortar]

Ou?

[pearl sluice]

I don't have a iPhone but im still Instesred in looking in this channel lol

[granite peak]

Oh otays

[dense grotto]

I wish I had the motivation to do ios dev so I could use this channel for its intended purpose

[sterile fossil]

i can be your tester if you decide to dev

[sterile fossil]

how many times have i gone onto this channel, see there's activity and there's nothing here????

[dense grotto]

All the time, idk if it’s deleted scams or if discord keeps forgetting what you’ve read tho

Happens to me in #udon-showoff

[sterile fossil]

i wanna say it's the former
there's no way the api would sync the fact that i haven't unread this channel across all my devices for the past few days

[sonic ferry]

For any of the (official) VRC for iOS devs peaking in here, Harmony, which is used by Udon Sharp & a number of popular VCC community packages, was recently updated to support Apple Silicon: https://feedback.vrchat.com/sdk-bug-reports/p/upgrade-harmony-to-241

[valid field]

Emmm hola?

[celest sky]

Howdy

[ember ginkgo]

grrr. new app version consistently crashes trying to load my world. gotta figure out why

[velvet crown]

Hey when is vrchat ios fully coming out?

[dense grotto]

same answer as #vrchat-general-1: when it's ready

[viscid torrent]

Whats an vr chat ios

[safe geyser]

iOS is the operating system for iPhones and iPads to keep it simple

[viscid torrent]

Never heard of a vr chat ios

[safe geyser]

It’s just a build of VRChat made for Apple mobile devices that’s currently in closed beta

[viscid torrent]

Tholk lore

[dense grotto]

Officially don’t know what a tholk is

[ember ginkgo]

so i need help debugging. any suggestions are welcome. the ios version of one of my worlds has been running for over a year now without a glitch. this last app update changed that. i even updated to the latest sdk and uploaded.

where the challenge is, attempting to load into my world crashes the vrchat entirely. you see loading and the app is then gone. so there are no logs and i have no idea how to find out what is happening

[sterile fossil]

Dm me the world

[ember ginkgo]

i would like to give a public shoutout thanking @sterile fossil for their help 🙂 i really appreciate it.

[sterile fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1375752410680659981/1386921432902139904/gangnamstyle.gif

[dense grotto]

That reminds me that I’ll be working on adding proper ios / phone gameplay support to gladiator whenever I next decide to work on it, I’ll be sure to sneak into natsu’s DMs when the time comes 🙏

[calm mist]

quick question, is there a content indicator under the nameplate for when someone is on iOS, just like how there is one for android?

[safe geyser]

Yes. It's "iOS" with an Apple logo

it's funny that they can just do that, but Quest/Mobile Android users are just condensed into "Android"

They really need to split it into "Android" and "Android XR"

[calm mist]

well, it is meant to show what version of the avatar/world is being shown, but id agree

[safe geyser]

The Quest and Android tags were split up for some time when Android was in the VRC+ Open Beta

[sterile fossil]

Didn’t the quest tag have an oculus logo before the inevitable removal (due to Meta) and merge into android

[ember ginkgo]

which i giggle about because ipad users are not running iOS. that is ipadOS and the vision pro is visionOS. none of them are the same operating system. it should have said Apple instead

[next lynx]

Find out that Items volume slider doesn't do anything. Not sure if its iOS or Steam Audio related

[dense grotto]

Was planning on updating my pvp world to include phone support soonish and now the release is here! Wonder how many game worlds support ios rn 👀

[raw beacon]

Everyone is gonna haft to start making their stuff work for iOS devices not just pc and quest

Sucks that none of my good avatar for for iOS

[fair torrent]

The only thing I don't like about iOS is, why does the iOS icon show up in Android version? They should remove it and let Android see Android only and iOS see iOS icon only

[frank stag]

The point of the different icons is to let others know which platform you're using except PC

Which has none

[dense grotto]

If you see the icon on another player it means that’s what they’re using

[tame granite]

android and ios are both entirely independent platforms

[frank stag]

I have been able to upload my Android avatars over to iOs without issue by switching platforms on Unity.

[tame granite]

It is just the android restrictions but you still need to upload it to ios specifically

[frank stag]

Yep

[raw beacon]

Sad that there are a lot of worlds I like to go to that I can’t go on iOS and Same thing with the avatar out of all avatar I have only have one that I can use

[high solstice]

Are the IOS Upload criteria the exact same as android?

[alpine willow]

if you mean world upload, yes

[high solstice]

No, I meant both world and Avatars

As in, can I upload my android compat avatar to iOS build target as well

[alpine willow]

ah, yeah as it auto convert android build if not upload, which means same

be mind about custom shader

[high solstice]

Also, how does IOS handle very poor avatar ratings. Are they force hidden or showable on a per user basis like on android

[alpine willow]

especially transparency, it may not compatible often

[high solstice]

Oh IOS auto converts from android? So I don't need to upload specifically to iOS build target if I have android build?

[alpine willow]

https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/45880051153939-iOS-Platform-FAQ
I think some info here may help

[high solstice]

Thank you

[alpine willow]

https://help.vrchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/45880051153939-iOS-Platform-FAQ

[mighty stone]

chat, the bug where people are standing still until you force their avatar on is on ios as well 😭

[dense grotto]

Whaaat but they just fixed that on live 😂

[mighty stone]

was playing a few hours ago to test ios and had to fix two peoples avis lol

[calm mist]

wouldnt this be an issue with having animators? unless youre talking about something else

[dense grotto]

It’s an issue with vrchat avatar stuff not world dev

Players that have their avatar disabled and are grey robots have a 50% chance to be stuck in place and not position sync when you join the instance

[dense grotto]

Have you reported this yet?

[calm mist]

....animators are an avatar component

[dense grotto]

But all avatars have an animator…

[calm mist]

which is why i was saying, are the avatars that are stuck in place having their animators correctly falling back? but after you elaborated this appears to be some other issue

i was saying this because a similar issue has happened to impostors for multi-animator avatars

[proven mica]

That bug was fixed in 2025.3.4p1 but iOS was a little behind. We just put out an update that includes a fix for this, please update and let us know!

[low mortar]

Will we still see beta builds in TF or is it gonna be scrapped?

[grave dust]

Bruh why can I download vrchat but it won't let me play it just because I have an older iPhone 😭😭😭😭

This is why iPhone sucks

[digital mulch]

It’s the same requirements on Android.

[raw beacon]

I hear a lot of people say that iOS vrchat is so bad but I don’t think it’s bad at all we just need more access to more worlds that we normally go to on quest or pc and same for the avatars I only have 5 out of like 300 avatars that work on iOS

[dense grotto]

Yeahh I plan to port a game but it won’t be for months because I want to finish my current project before allat 😅

[sterile fossil]

The kind of behaviours I was expecting once this was out
We're gonna have a lot of complaints about low end devices, so buckle up fellas 😭

[fair torrent]

Not only do creators have to make iOS compatible, but also not all iOS devices can run VRChat unlike Android lol

[raw beacon]

Yeah

[raw beacon]

Lucky I can play on it but only will on vacation unless it maybe gets abit better but als just how you go to the vrchat website to edit your status and add emotes and all the stuff why can’t we do all that on the app before you press play you know what I mean I don’t want to just be able to see who is on and who’s off or just see worlds no I want to do everything that you can on the website but on the app I think it be nice to have and also the thing from the pools I’d love to have a lot more avatars spots for using vrchat plus and more categories for more organization

[fair torrent]

You can do both on the website and inside the game to edit status/profile!

[raw beacon]

Ik that

I just think it be nice so I don’t need to load the website up or start up the game just to change or update some things

[grave dust]

I had better access on Android when I had Android but with iPhone I can't use the app

[digital mulch]

It’s 6GB for both OSes, TBF, Android has been using 6GB since 2017, and iOS started in 2020 with the 12 Pro.

[fair torrent]

The difference for Android, if your device was below 6GB it still could run VRC and enter the world but it won't work/game crash on heavy world and crowded instances, only light world and very less detail from my experience

[digital mulch]

Surprisingly it runs well on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.

[frozen olive]

How to enable Metal FX

[raw beacon]

If I was to buy stuff from the shop is it a lot easier to buy things off the phone version of vrchat I mean to buy the money anyways instead of putting money on stean to than use it on vrchat

[frozen olive]

steam

[sterile fossil]

pretty sure there's no option for it, but metal api is used iirc

[frozen olive]

Does Apple invest Vrchat.Inc ?

[sterile fossil]

no
metal api is just the api provided to developers who wanna optimize their apps for the apple ecosystem

isnt metalfx the equivalent to nvidia dlss

Yeah doing some research, MetalFX literally isnt a thing for VRC since it would be pointless to upscale anything in the game
But I'm 100% sure Metal API (completely different thing) is used in VRC4iOS, otherwise the game would be a lagging mess

[oak marsh]

how do I go about getting access to the iOS beta?

nvm I figured it out lol

just had to read the FAQ

[sterile fossil]

uhhh
the app is released

[frozen olive]

you don’t know that ppl in china shanghai said that Apple has invested VRC team.

[sterile fossil]

Really?
Can I have a source on this information?

A direct article, tweet or bluesky post I can dive into for research would be nice

[frozen olive]

Every info from Bilibili.com Shanghai

[sterile fossil]

I would like an actual article on this

My insider info has never mentiomed Apple investing into VRC

[frozen olive]

its a viedo in Bilibili

[sterile fossil]

I need an article on this, word of mouth tends to be unreliable

Apple is extremely unlikely to fund into VRC unless a native Vision Pro port is being made or something

[frozen olive]

Got it 【聊聊下一代Apple Vision Pro-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/yM0btWq

I’m not keen in Chinese afterall

[frozen olive]

oh that may be 【M5 Vision Pro压力测试&购买建议【MMMMMyra的首发评测】-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/bBPgscR

等登陆vp[doge]

@梦雅Myra 求采访 vrchat 开发者 什么时候登陆 Vision Pro

回复 @浅笑醉红楼-_ :你咋知道我问过梦雅

回复 @浅笑醉红楼-_ :她说开发者没回复她。我乐观估计也许明年这个时候就上线了

回复 @zhhsfhhs :我也想问 [星星眼]急问

What

are

Chinese

talking about ???

[sterile fossil]

If you aren't "keen on Chinese" why bring up Apple funding VRC

[frozen olive]

Can you read Chinese or not?

[sterile fossil]

I don't know Chinese.

I just don't understand why you're pulling seemingly unproven misinformation about VRC and Apple if you yourself claim to not know Chinese.

[dense grotto]

Weeeird

[sterile fossil]

I mean, this is literally what it translates to
If there was mentions of VRC it would "VRChat" within the mandarin

[frozen olive]

I have grok ai translation

[frozen olive]

Your Translate is wrong

Can you try chatgpt

[sterile fossil]

Doesnt matter, I see no mentions of Apple funding VRC. Now please cut this discussion, since this channel's for actual dev stuff and we've stretched it too long.

[frozen olive]

You say this channel's for actual dev stuff, where is dev stuff?

[sterile fossil]

🤦‍♂️

You were the one stretching the conversation, take this to #ios-discussion if you're bothered by your own diversion of the topic.

[frozen olive]

I want to see real dev stuff.

[ember ginkgo]

i was never able to find what was causing one of my worlds to crash vrchat on load in. however, the last release restored everything back to the way it was during beta and its all resolved! so thank you vrchat for fixing what ever was going on! 🙂

[icy pecan]

Hey guys I just gifted 5 vrc plus to friends and yet some people are saying they haven’t got it but I can see it on my Apple Pay

Any ideas why this is?

Also it didn’t unlock the holiday legend gift either but I was charged for it

[low mortar]

its a bug. if they have already rvc+ active, it just tops it off

[ember ginkgo]

one of mine yesterday took hours before they got it. no idea why

[icy pecan]

It’s all sorted thank god vrchat acknowledged the problem and partially resolved. Still working on a full fix

[high solstice]

Noticing some of my avatars had their android versions auto converted to IOS but not all of them. Is there a way to force an avatar to auto generate an IOS compat version (besides uploading it myself)?

[half imp]

has anyone figured out, what is the absolute oldest/cheapest second-hand iPhone one can get to have a device to test your vrchat worlds/avatars on?

[proven sinew]

i cant imagine vrchat running on a device older than like, the iphone 10

i doubt youll find a device for "cheap" that can run the game

id recommend just asking someone with an iPhone

[proven sinew]

I found that the oldest ones you can get would be the 12 or 13, both are pretty new so i doubt theyd be considered "cheap"

ebay is saying like $120 US

Honestly I'd just recommend finding someone with an iPhone that is willing to help you out

[dense grotto]

Note you’ll want a pro, afaik 13 alone is still 4gb

[proven sinew]

yeah

[viscid grotto]

Is there something weird going on with the iOS setup with the SDK? I can build and publish for PC and Android no problem, but since switching to iOS, it seems to complain about random scripts and assemblies now for seemingly no reason.

That or Unity broke itself somehow when switching platforms as it tends to use all my RAM and then shit itself, so that's not entirely impossible.

[viscid grotto]

It's LTCGI for some reason.

If it so much as exists in my project, it breaks the ability to build for iOS. What the hell are you doing LTCGI.

UnityEngine.Debug:LogError (object,UnityEngine.Object)
UdonSharp.UdonSharpUtils:LogError (object,UnityEngine.Object) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.worlds/Integrations/UdonSharp/Editor/UdonSharpUtils.cs:329)
UdonSharp.Compiler.UdonSharpCompilerV1:ValidateUdonSharpBehaviours (UdonSharp.UdonSharpProgramAsset[],System.Collections.Generic.HashSet`1<string>) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.worlds/Integrations/UdonSharp/Editor/Compiler/UdonSharpCompilerV1.cs:393)
UdonSharp.Compiler.UdonSharpCompilerV1:Compile (UdonSharp.Compiler.UdonSharpCompileOptions) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.worlds/Integrations/UdonSharp/Editor/Compiler/UdonSharpCompilerV1.cs:324)
UdonSharp.Compiler.UdonSharpCompilerV1:CompileSync (UdonSharp.Compiler.UdonSharpCompileOptions) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.worlds/Integrations/UdonSharp/Editor/Compiler/UdonSharpCompilerV1.cs:243)
UdonSharpEditor.UdonSharpBuildCompile:OnBuildRequested (VRC.SDKBase.Editor.BuildPipeline.VRCSDKRequestedBuildType) (at ./Packages/com.vrchat.worlds/Integrations/UdonSharp/Editor/BuildUtilities/UdonSharpBuildCompile.cs:20)
VRC.SDKBase.Editor.BuildPipeline.VRCBuildPipelineCallbacks:OnVRCSDKBuildRequested (VRC.SDKBase.Editor.BuildPipeline.VRCSDKRequestedBuildType)```

The fact that scripts that are not used in the current scene breaking breaks the build in itself is infuriating.

Found the issue, the LTCGI assembly is not marked to be usable with iOS. Altering this appears to fix the issue.

[viscid grotto]

I have a shader that works fine on PC and Android (including Quest) but doesn't work properly on iOS. Are there any major gotchas I should be looking out for when it comes to iOS support?