android-dev

[gritty shard]

looks like your phone ran out of ram before being able to load any of the avatars

do you have a lot of background applications running

[untold apex]

I have a problem

[wild wadi]

If I Looked Closely At The Screenshot you've sent here, it's probably these 2 Problems,

1. The Users On Your Screen Have Too Many Avatars
2. Probably Because Of Your Phones Storage

[untold solar]

Set your safety to custom safety and set non friends to voices only.

[winged thicket]

i just want to say one thing

mobile version should have limitations depending on the phone's power

meaning that some phones can even run PC avatars

if they are powerful enough

meaning that this would be the compatibility chart
quest - mobile - PC

this idea would be great, considering that quest has single hardware variation

and phones have many

[gritty shard]

that is technologically impossible because the PC avatars are compiled for x86 but Android uses arm so there's no way for to load them

[winged thicket]

huh

they are also compiled?

mane i thought unity assets do not have bytecode

[gritty shard]

yes when the Avatar is getting uploaded it's converted into a Unity asset bundle

[winged thicket]

and that they are universal

even funnier

quest avatars that are rated "very poor" do not load at all

[gritty shard]

checking the unity forums they're not Universal they're compiled for each platform

like cross-platform play on VR chat is basically two video game different being puppeted together to look like it's one video game by sharing synced variables between each other

which is why it's not possible to upload the quest and PC Avatar at the same time as Unity can only be one platform at a time

[winged thicket]

well

at least add more compatibility to mobile version

so it would make pitiful quest look like a joke

[gritty shard]

a Android phone is going to have the same rendering headaches handling like transparency or complicated shaders

[winged thicket]

depends on hardware

[gritty shard]

not really tile-based renders that all Android phones use would have problems with transparencies

[untold solar]

I even noticed visemes compatible on Quest headset are gone on the mobile vrc

Especially when playing MMD worlds

I noticed my phone upgraded from Android 13 to 14 recently, so maybe that's why it's running better than two months ago

[half light]

wrong channel mb

[fleet blade]

hi dragon

[untold solar]

Hey Roxas

[red ivy]

Is it possible to add on-screen buttons that allow for a world-based 3rd person camera?
And is it possible to add on-screen buttons that allow for my avatar to have poses and expressions?

[errant nymph]

Can y'all make Android tablet support??

[stone lark]

Unless my understanding of how google play works is wrong, it should already have android tablet support, the only requirements are at least Android 12 and 6GB of RAM (not storage, RAM, real actual physical RAM).

[errant nymph]

😐 ok

[hoary pier]

so is it just me or impostors no longer work on mobile

[untold solar]

The imposters are comsidered a bug, so they removed the option to see them. I used the wings to get in very poor avatars to see my imposter. That option is gone. You can still see your fallback when coming from another platform

[fathom bolt]

im using a phone that has a better chipset then the quest 3, let me see quest avatars

[terse basin]

android avatars are quest avatars

[fathom bolt]

stop the cap bro, i cant show my friends quest avatars.

[terse basin]

they are literally the same avatars

android build is also quest build

[fathom bolt]

just comes up with "cant show cause of the rating" like huh

[terse basin]

the only difference is the android platform's base line is no very poors at all

which just like how the quest's restrictions arent changed just because the quest 3 exists
the android's restrictions wont change either just because you specifically happen to have a better phone

[fathom bolt]

android phones are garbage in performance compared to quest then by that logic, well god bless America sshee zuss

[terse basin]

to be completely fair the quest was a completely different version of android that was built specifically for vr

a phone is built to be a phone

if you have an 8gb memory in a phone the game has closer to only 6gbs that can be used

[fathom bolt]

your saying not all phones meet the requirements when even pc's dont meet the pc requirements, if i wanna kill my phone by using "very poor" then ill kill my phone, it should be my discission

[terse basin]

they arent going to do that

[fathom bolt]

so the android community need to have there hands held by an adult as they cross the road cause they cant think for themselves? i should decide if my phone can handle something or not, but hey im sure there not testing one phone an classing its performance like every other phone including the new ones would behave the same way

thats crazy vrchat only gives a shit about optimisation when it comes to android then i guess

https://tenor.com/view/let-go-of-my-hand-eric-cartman-butters-stotch-south-park-s12e7-gif-21162596

[terse basin]

they care about optimization for every platform

[polar tundra]

i need that option back...
that was the feature i wanted with impostors...
impostors were perfect for mobile to use very poor avatars, until the devs removed that feature and ruined it...

i cried when i found out that they removed that feature...

i can't use any of my avatars on mobile anymore...they are all very poor...

[untold solar]

I was hoping they could have the imposters stay when changing worlds, but in the canny the dev said it was a bug.

Go to the canny and provide your feedback there.

I was fine with only using the very poor avatar when launch, and everyone else in fallback.

[thin locust]

Unfortunately if you want a better experience either upgrade to quest or pc. You won't have any other options.

[untold solar]

I have Quest and PC already, usually am on phone when away from home

[gritty shard]

like the quest documentation have noted they could remove very poor avatars anytime they want

[main marsh]

i've had this complaint before, but i've learned that every phone is different, i don't think it would be easy for them to test out like all the phones out there in the world that meet the requirements of vrchat.
while you may have a phone with a better chip than the quest 3, vrchat hasn't looked deep into that phone no? while to the quest 3 and 2, the hardware is the same for all, so when they test the quest build, they know performance will be similar to other's quest 3/2.

in summary they do give a ||shit|| about optimization + check their updates, when they find performance improvements they mention it

[drifting nova]

is there a way to create a raycast from the touch position?

[past stump]

Apparently grabpass works on mobile but not on quest 🙃

[hollow pulsar]

can anyone help with this?

and before you ask, yes it says its quest compatible

this also was only an issue once i switched to creator companion

[stone lark]

Offline testing not available on Quest content and you have to "set a name and thumbnail".

If you are used to older SDKs then this is something done before clicking upload now.

[hollow pulsar]

i added the name and picture and it still says it

wait

i think i got it

[dark vigil]

yall is there any chance of the devs enabling quest 3 users to have better graphics and shaders since it's like 40% more powerful than the 2?

[untold solar]

Quest 3 had better resolution itself

[rain blaze]

I'm so confused on how to get the mobile version.?

[timber prism]

i wish i could see more of my friends avatars instead always unable to see them on poor or very poor

[timber prism]

but the question is does quest 3 have all features from quest 2

[timber prism]

but also only thing i heard about it that is bad

is battery life

[vapid orchid]

#android-discussion, link in the topic.

[gritty shard]

nope that 40% extra power is going towards better frame rate

[untold solar]

@timber prism Of you leave the 120Ghz refresh rate on 3 hours. Turn it off 6+ hours

Thru using link cable and PCVR

[red ivy]

I see there are left hand controls when using a pickup. Does this mean it will be possible to program how the left hand should pick up an item? I think that would be sweet for games like Kitchen Chefs, Murder 4, Prison Escape and Ghost Police where both hands should be used.

[tawny peak]

Why is the vrchat on my android telling me everytime that I have lost connection like 5 minutes I join a world?

[untold solar]

It has done that to me via PCVR. Switch between mobile and wifi and see which is more stable.

[glacial edge]

Are there beta builds for ios too?

[terse basin]

Not yet

And when there is it will be initially closed

Requiring a whitelist of people

[glacial edge]

Ah i see

[terse basin]

You can sign up to get a chance to be whitelisted for it

Which they will let you know if you got im when they start it

[quiet garnet]

Is there a list of android phones that have proven to be compatible with the build? I have a Samsung A23 that won't accept the install, and I was wondering if I should wait until the build gets a wider range of cover or if I should just save up for a new phone.

[vapid orchid]

Any phone with >6GB of RAM and at least Android 10.

[untold solar]

It worked with my A52

[vapid orchid]

Which one do you have?

[karmic flower]

Where do I go to see that stuff

Phone: Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra
Ram: 12 gigs
Cpu: Qualcomm SnapDragon 8 Gen 3 for Galaxy
Gpu: Adreno (TM) 750
Android Version: 14

[vapid orchid]

This was taken from GSMArena.

[karmic flower]

Ah

[sinful bolt]

Well ig cbt but still no progress on my listing

[quiet garnet]

Well damn, my phone is 4gb ram. Even with android 14, the app will probably be too bulky for my phone to run it

[autumn whale]

You only need 4GB of space in the UFS 3.0, 3.1 hard drive on your phone to use as virtual RAM for Android. Although it is not as fast as real RAM, it helps you somewhat with too little RAM memory. You may need to unlock the bootloader and install root to do that. It's like vram linux.

[stone matrix]

how do you see this?

[sinful bolt]

see network tab in the browser dev tools

[stone matrix]

ah okay

thanks!

[hidden urchin]

When is the vrc android gonna be finished

[spring scroll]

I assume when the ios version is finished as well

[stark storm]

anyone know when the new update will come out

[honest nova]

the boop update is open beta rn and network compatible so maybe sometime in this month

[stark storm]

thx

[hidden urchin]

When can the avatar on Android be fixed

It's justs default to the pixel guy

[vapid orchid]

What do you mean?

[terse basin]

the pc version isnt even finished

[hidden urchin]

Wdym

[terse basin]

none of the versions of vrchat are finished

[honest nova]

you are probably wearing a very poor performance rated avatar. android cant see or wear any very poor avatars, and it probably is switching to your fallback

the only solution is to use an Android optimized avatar or one of the public ones

i think vrchat should give a more obvious guide on performance rankings given how many people have asked about it recently

[vapid orchid]

They have.

[untold solar]

@millie8804 phone version is limited though very poor for self was available week 1

[honest nova]

this was via an exploit however

[untold solar]

It was a bug, not exploit

[heavy owl]

Helpp

[pulsar jacinth]

halp lol

[raw creek]

I seen something on the vrchat website about IOS testing what happens after you sign up for it?

[thorny badge]

You wait forever

[raw creek]

Crazy

[cunning wolf]

Honestly

[radiant stag]

yep

[south walrus]

I'm just waiting to see if "very poor" avatars will be blocked on iOS too, to decide if it worths to make my avatars iOS compatible or just waste of time

[untold solar]

I know they are using the Android version of vrchat. That is all I know

@south walrus I think mobile was a bad mistake since 3 people still defend the decisions of the devs for the very poor avis. They are for optimizing, and I'm for creativity.

But use the canny to provide feedback since StormRel clarified where I can provide my opinion.

We have safety settings and avatar culling for this reason.

[south walrus]

My avatars wasn't even supposed to be Android compatible at all bcz of that, I don't care abt rank at all. They're just compatible cz it is the same platform that Quest is on

[untold solar]

I ended up with a fallback, though there wasn't suppose to be a fallback when I had someone else commission one for me. Just didn't have PhysBones.

Not every store model has a Quest model. Only knew about crunch compression, lowering resolution, and removing components. Removing triangles I'm not willing to do yet.

Very poor avatar in August, and Imposter in October

[south walrus]

Argh I would rather have a PC only avatar than remove triangles, we're in 2024 wake up, they living in the past, dinossaurs

Aww how fluffy, they're so cuuute :lick:

[untold solar]

Phones work better than 10 years ago. People don't optimize all the way to support only Quest 2

I'm not even a creator myself. I'm a novice. I find what is cool to me. I do have some publics for the events that request, but that is more the music scene.

I also pay attention to how streamers have their safety settings setup. Will I be a bot, fallback, partially shown, or fully shown?

This also tells me how strong their setup is

I was watching one person stream on mobile recently

[honest nova]

how long do you plan to keep going

not trying to flame but they are very adamant on removing very poor for android, with impostor systems on the way it's an already made up decision

[polar tundra]

and their new pc file size limits will make one of my pc only avatars stop working...

[untold solar]

Multiple people do want it back.

[gritty shard]

then optimize it

[polar tundra]

i can't, i don't have the unity project for it anymore
it was made 3 years ago

it was a fnaf avatar that could switch to 4 other fnaf characters

it's over 400mb

or more than that
i don't remember the exact number

[vapid orchid]

Yikes.

[polar tundra]

and it has a lot of memories because i made it when i was still with my old friend group

[gritty shard]

that yeah that's definitely a performance disaster having four avatars in one

[polar tundra]

there wasn't any lag actually, which surprised me

[oak crag]

400mb is just hogging vram

[vapid orchid]

And THAT'S how you get banned.

[limber sand]

great way to get banned!

[honest nova]

i will globally hide your avatar and block+report you anytime i see a >10MB avatar i am not sorry

limits have a reason and android effectively has 3GB or less of RAM and VRAM

i hope some sort of serverside detection for when limits are bypassed comes, ive been never showing very poor avatars in publics because of how many more ive seen

[dark vigil]

Yeah don't use that you will regret it when the security is coming to you and everyone is well 👁️ because I'm now I'm seeing Avatar quest mb too high is true abusing now

[terse basin]

amazing way for a dip shit to get banned

[south walrus]

So fuck u then, go lick their boots

[vapid orchid]

👀

I witnessed that live.

[terse basin]

what happen I was asleep

[vapid orchid]

I think someone got banned for suggesting using a modified SDK to bypass the 10 MB limitation.

I saw their messages go poof.

[terse basin]

oh

I thought more happened

[untold solar]

Should had used the canny as feedback in Feature requests

[unborn pagoda]

Hi

[feral violet]

What happened?

[untold solar]

@feral violet No use of custom SDKs

[feral violet]

I know exactly what that means

[untold solar]

Mhm

[feral violet]

(I have no idea what that means)

[untold solar]

When using Unity, the SDK is the program that uploads the avatar or world into vrchat, and checks for any conflicts. Using custom SDK goes against the terms of service, and causes issues on the game itself. Mostly was used for malicious purposes

[feral violet]

Ahh okay

Thanks!

[thin locust]

you can bypass that limit? how is that not enforced client side?

needs fix

[honest nova]

not enforced client side uncatunately, but modded sdks are used to upload avatars past restrictions

ive encountered a few, reported anytime ive seen them

[thin locust]

yeah needs fix

im suprised it isnt enforced already like most other limits

like even with modded sdks you cant bypass things like unallowed scripts

but i guess thats how people also bypassed the pc limits back then when it had poly limits too

[thorny badge]

Tbf the poly limit was really awful back then lol

[honest nova]

70k is reasonable but 20k on pc is a lot too low

20k on quest though is probably too much but its fine lol

[normal pollen]

20k is to low :<
give 30k at least

[untold solar]

@normal pollen I agree with you on this. A friend who makes Quest avis did mention a time when we were suppose to get an increase.

The issue is some people want to show as many avatars as possible, and complain about crashing. They haven't been utilizing safety and avatar culling.

[stone lark]

I can't remember vrchat ever openly considering an increase.
With the Quest 3 they openly say that they wouldn't do an increase, instead keep it as a buffer generation to make the standalone experience better.

[stone lark]

Showing as many as possible is what you want though, vrc shouldn't require "skill" to use.

[honest nova]

above is extremely true, showing someone's avatar shouldnt have to be a decision since this is a social game after all

[bold sluice]

i changed unity versions for my world, and i cant switch to android. it shows the open download page, and after downloading it several times its still like that. anyone know what i cant do?

[vapid orchid]

Did you remember to install the Android module?

[bold sluice]

I can't find it at all

its not showing up in vcc

whats annoying is ive done this before

[frank cosmos]

when play game facing this issue!

[tropic quarry]

Guys, quest models don't even work on Android... can you tell me if it's because the platforms are different or if the poly limit is lower than quest?

If so, aren't there more powerful cell phone models out there? So why don't they increase it?

genuine doubts, if they are implemented in the future it is just a matter of patience

[drifting nova]

cause no poly limit was a mistake

[untold solar]

@tropic quarry Because the devs decided to allow very poor avatars, but do leave feedback in the canny under the feedback link under #android-announcements . Still trying myself to get the very poor back on mobile. Diven and sylvstuff, don't bother adding to the convo to me.

[tropic quarry]

oh I understand, I'll follow the process, I think mine has more than enough to run an avatar with a greater number of pylogons

[tropic quarry]

Damn, it seems like they don't even want to make this exception for mobile users... they don't want to have work, so, tragic

[gritty shard]

the documentation for Avatar rankings note they could remove very poor avatars all together from Quest so they consider very poor avatars a mistake in the first place

[terse basin]

Its not even specifically polygons

[spice oracle]

hello guys

can some one help me

what is this

not working for me

[untold solar]

@spice oracle reset your modem and or router

[vapid orchid]

How old are you? 👀

[hard heart]

I love making new friends and getting avi coms

[lime edge]

Huh

[tight roost]

Fun times, I tried to use a second account on Android to check whether it can see my newly optimised avatar, but it refused to show the avatar and called it Very Poor even though both the Quest and the VRC SDK say it's Medium on Android. So I logged in from my main account on the phone to check what stats are flagged as unacceptable, and suddenly I just load into the avatar, and the phone says it's medium.

[molten crane]

I wonder is the mobile version ever gonna support very poor avatars

[terse basin]

no

[molten crane]

And how do you know exactly

[terse basin]

the only time very poor would ever be supported (as it was removed in the first place) would be if the rating system got reworked specifically for mobile

it got removed not just not supported since the beginning

[honest nova]

you used to not be able to have very poors at all on android/quest versions pre-2022 iirc

[untold solar]

@molten crane Very poor avatars were available only for the user, but got patched out within less than two weeks during the alpha. I got pics from that time. As for the Quest, been using very poor avatars on Quest since June 2021.

[honest nova]

uploading very poors at all is a luxury, so please dont become dependant on the perf. ranks staying static

[turbid silo]

Is there anything we can do about the decision to block very poor avatars on mobile? Is there any way to start a petition or something like that?

[gritty shard]

there is nothing to be done about that

[turbid silo]

This is very disappointing. I’m not the first player to be upset about this, and I probably won’t be the last

[gritty shard]

they're well aware of that but having folks phones crash all the time from very poor avatars would be very bad for vrc like potentially getting delisted from the App Store bed

[turbid silo]

I can understand the reasons, I just can't deny that it's disappointing not being able to play with the avatars we want. After all, that's the best part of VRChat—playing with the avatar you desire

[untold solar]

StormRel mentioned in canny to post about in the feedback. Go to #android-announcements . There are a few articles in there. Everyone else as fallback is fine since the limits on phone, but allowing the user to use their avatar would be ideal. Going to have the same defenders for the opposite butting in as usual.

[turbid silo]

Do I have to send my feedback in the video comments?

[gritty shard]

vrchat doesn't read video comments

and basically they're not going to budge about the very poor avatars

[untold solar]

@turbid silo no video

[turbid silo]

It seems like you really don't want this to happen

[gritty shard]

yeah that would be disastrous for everyone's frame rate running very poor avatars on people's cell phones

[turbid silo]

It doesn't stop anyone from trying, regardless of their chances. That's how democracy works.

[gritty shard]

vrchat is not a democracy

[turbid silo]

but feedback is free and open to everyone.

[untold solar]

Companies do read feedback, and see where they are doing well, and where they need improving.

Vrc mobile is still in Beta Test currently. So testing with very poor avatar with user only option is a possibility.

[lilac elm]

Here's some feedback for em, rather a suggestion:

Allow the Particle Shader for Android, the one Your team provides? With that being said, just add more ways to limit it manually in game rather than on unity

Better looking avatars for everyone with simple effects, and everyone who makes effects will be happy

Again just a suggestion, I'm not on the dev team so I can easily be ignored

[terse basin]

they already allow the particle shaders

[lilac elm]

No they don't, not for Android

VrChat/mobile/particle shaders don't work for Android

At all

[terse basin]

yes they do?

[lilac elm]

I've tried?

[terse basin]

and my avatar actively uses it for fake transparency

the only one that I remember not working is alpha blended because it was meant for worlds

[lilac elm]

Was it a recent update or sum I missed??

[terse basin]

its been like that for a while

[lilac elm]

I use additive tho-

The hell?

[solid edge]

Can drive/fly vehicle's

[leaden jungle]

How would I get the iOS mobile chat??

[vapid orchid]

You have to be chosen first.

[leaden jungle]

Ok thank you

[fossil pawn]

Nor metallic textures, funny enough

[honest nova]

have you tried out matcaps?

[young nimbus]

idk if they'd ever do that, I feel like it's just to scare people into making more optimized avatars lol

[honest nova]

i would agree but always that 1%

[young nimbus]

not VRC's fault, it's the avatar creators' fault for not optimizing avis

[terse basin]

you can say the same for pc only avatars and trying to use them on quest

its not that great of an argument as its entirely dependent on the uploader making it compatible

[young nimbus]

it was broken, they fixed it recently and it works now :]

it was always able to be uploaded though

just didn't work properly

[terse basin]

this was about the fact the sdk said you cant use it

[young nimbus]

i never had an issue with that

always was able to upload additive and multiply they just were invisible in-game

[terse basin]

the only thing that actually changed about the particle shaders is they now actually render

[young nimbus]

yeah that's what i'm saying

i mean they never said they had issues with uploading it

they just said it doesn't work

[vast musk]

I can’t wait for vrc to finally release on iOS

[radiant isle]

i think the shader effect might be too extreme in this form
(warning a lot of flashing effects)

[thin locust]

looks fine to me

[gritty shard]

that's very unpleasant to watch

[unreal marsh]

I'll add this effect to my world.

[thin locust]

If you don't play it, it looks like a painting

[near lava]

Are Standard (non-lite) materials compatible with iOS? Cause I'm not seeing any warning saying it doesn't, nor does it not stop me from uploading the avatar with said material.

Or could it be an unintentional thing there?

[honest nova]

i dont think thats intentional..? the official docs don't have standard listed as compatible anyways which is unusual

-# source https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations/

[neat minnow]

Me too…

[neat minnow]

Android died flashing

New ios me

[radiant isle]

i had almost forgot about having to support apple devices aswell with shaders...

tho one small problem will be that i don't own any apple devices to test on/currently don't have vrc+

[gritty shard]

if your stuff is using the VRC provided shaders only it should be okay

[radiant isle]

nope isn't, see this video. but i since there isn't auto conversion currently it's probably fine
but still will need to work at it at some point if it doesn't worj directly...

[novel bridge]

Would It be possible to add VR cardboard support and also BT xbox controllers?

[terse basin]

that wasnt the intended purpose of the mobile version nor will it ever be added

[novel bridge]

Sad, a man can dream though

[rapid mortar]

I just tried it today and was really surprised it doesn't have cardboard support, and also ignores the gyroscope.

What is the point of it then?

[vapid orchid]

To play VRC on mobile?

Doesn't need to be in VR.

[rapid mortar]

I can play it non-VR on my PC

I thought this would be good for those of us that don't have money for a VR headset

Not life and death though, the app still runs surprisingly well

[vapid orchid]

Not everyone has a PC. :P

[rapid mortar]

True, true. As always, I based the world on my own experiences...

[muted tapir]

is constraint support in the Android (non-VR) version yet?

(I ask because I just checked and it appears not to be, and I'm wondering if there's any chance it's something I did wrong or if it just hasn't shipped)

[muted tapir]

aha, it appears to have just updated... will try shortly

[honest nova]

it is, and you should be able to access it with the sdk-beta!

[stray karma]

is there a way to make disableable seats for android avatars yet?

disabling the gameobject doesnt let me re enable them without resetting the avatar, and scaling them to 0 does nothing to stop interacting, is there any other known way?

[stone lark]

Method I know friends have used is to just move the seats really far away.
Feel like there has to be a better way though.

[dark vigil]

So there is a bug very annoying. You can't click on any "interactable" If there is a player behind the interaction. I have to constantly tell people to MOVE AWAY so I can click stuff...

[dim violet]

Something recently has been appearing and I don't know how to fix it that hasn't happened since the new update. Can anyone help me with how to fix this?

It has been showing hitboxes and a big blue square around them when I can see their avatar

[untold solar]

@dim violet Are you able to hide their avatar?

You can open the quick menu, select the location pin on the bottom, and scroll down to their name, and hide them.

[dim violet]

But it's not just the avatars, it's also worlds as the picture I have shown

[untold solar]

I did notice the blue highlight since the current update

[lyric storm]

I need help to fix this,so there's a bug after you install vrchat mobile and get in to the game once it works normally after you quit the game everytime you trying to join a world it will stuck like this and I couldn't do anything about it except reinstall the game everytime I want to play which is annoying,can someone help me fix this?

[untold solar]

Have you tried connecting to Wi-Fi, and see it work? Any phone connection I had for vrc mobile has been 5G, and sometimes 4G LTE.

[lyric storm]

I have ,but still the same result
I have to restart my phone everytime want to start the game

[pallid basalt]

Does anyone now how to make custom siting positions with seats

[tight quail]

for your avatar or for your world?

[blazing pier]

Haha clear ur cache.. every world u load into forces more cache onto the app. Too much can cause it to not be able to register a world anymore and won't let u join

[rigid heron]

Lplpl0

[dark vigil]

is it possible to upload avatars to android or dose it still only use the fallback system :p

[untold solar]

The Android system uses the same as Quest. But if very poor avatar, you see yourself in fallback. But not as your imposter either

[honest nova]

if you upload an optimized avatar, you can use it, yes. must be Poor or below rank (but preferably medium so that it isnt hidden by default for others)

[dark vigil]

cool

[distant swift]

is anyway to play the quest/android side of Vrchat with out quest or android phone trying to find a bug that dont know why or what it looks like its just not right ppl are saying.

[vapid orchid]

👀

[untold solar]

@distant swift Have them send video on their end, and DM you with the bug.

[hidden urchin]

When is the avi gonna be fixed on mobile

[vapid orchid]

What do you mean?

[hidden urchin]

It's displays a robot avi

[vapid orchid]

That's a you problem.

[hidden urchin]

?

[honest nova]

use an optimized avatar, not all avatars are compatible with mobile

[dense patrol]

That's dumb af

[gilded flume]

yo when is gona be vrchat on galaxy is like the same shit like android

[terse basin]

well does your galaxy phone even have the minimum requirements

[slow pier]

It runs on the S23+

Couldn't get it running on the S8+ because Android version is too old

[terse basin]

vrchat works on galaxy phones but you need to atleast have the minimum requirements

[untold solar]

worked on A52 when I had it, and works on S23 FE

[honest nova]

works on anything above 6GB of RAM but above 30fps isnt promised on low end devices

[terse basin]

galaxy doesnt have a special os as it is literally just running android

[gilded flume]

i do not see vrchat on the play store

[honest nova]

your device may not be compatible. you can only sideload the app but it may not run well

[hushed lava]

Vrchat is still have a bug on the mic

In the previous update I could only talk like a minute

Now it's permanent

Can anyone fix it?

[torpid belfry]

When I download A APK for Android version, it works.But then when I try and download the google store version that doesn't work

I need a file download

[untold solar]

I made a report on it in the canny about the mic @hushed lava

It is being Tracked

[stone lark]

Does it simply not allow you to download?
Then your phone might not be running Android 12 and have at least 6GB of RAM.

[terse basin]

why did you even post this

[dark vigil]

it is hard to test that in vrchat, but I've made some benchmark and I noticed that the pplayer takes a huge amount of CPU time and combined with HDR rendering it really decrease the performance on mobile. Ill do some more tests on vrchat to verify my concern

Those 2 screenshot show the performance difference between HDR/PPLayer OFF and HDR/PPLayer ON. 5x more fps without any visual differences.

[vapid orchid]

Hehehehe, you said "PP".

[dark vigil]

I am afraid that vrchat do have the post process layer + hdr running on mobile, will test that later and the new android local test feature

thats weird because even if you disable "Use HDR" in the graphics Tiers, having a the layer on the cam seems to force enable it again 🤔

[kind mesa]

I have a 9+ and its working

not the best performance

runs 40fps main home

in among us the highest is 23fps

its kind if stable when it comes with fps

[untold solar]

I do give mobile does well with FPS, and did play Among Us last time on mobile

But by before today's update, the mic was bad in the world for others. I can test mic quality with streamers.

[vital cairn]

I feel like this is a bug?

[terse basin]

skybox is a world shader

[vital cairn]

yea but then why am I getting an error for using a VRChat/Mobile shader telling me to use a VRChat/Mobile shader...?

it's not a problem just a touch annoying while I'm working on avatars having to memorize what quest compatible shaders aren't quest compatible

[terse basin]

the shaders are all packaged under base so the world shaders are also there

[vital cairn]

you say that like beginners know what that means.

[terse basin]

whenever you create a project you have both vrc base and vrc avatars/world

its right there

[untold solar]

Need to be organized better

[dark vigil]

Color grading on Android real? 👀

[untold solar]

That is neat

[vapid slate]

Kinda happy I have a Nord OnePlus 12R that 16GB RAM with Snapdragon is crazy I get stable 90-120 in most places with a lot of people

Idk if this is the place to talk about specs but it's kinda pay to win with performance here

[untold solar]

Gotten better results when I went from 6GB to 8GB

[kind mesa]

yeah i think its the ram

[willow cradle]

16 Gigs?! Holy Sh*t damn, even quest headsets don't have that much lol, good for you bud

Honestly, you're definitely getting more fps than questies, when I'm traveling and I can't bring my pc with me, the fps on quest could drop significantly in crowded areas. Even more so if I manually turn on people's full avatar (it's a placeholder avatar by default on quest)

I'm seriously considering using Android for playing VRChat when traveling now, it seems pretty handy even though it's still in development ✨

[honest nova]

love impostors though, it at least lets you see the other avatars when your performance gets rough :’3

i really should try playing more on android

[waxen yacht]

thissss

they work especially well from a distance

[untold solar]

Imposters are acceptable for when someone is using PC only avi, but saw some Octowing jetbird

PS1 graphics, and smooched face, and melting hats on the foreheads

[dark vigil]

I am curious to see those 90-120 FPS on mobile, any screenshot ?

[honest nova]

then make fall bac k

[dark vigil]

I am making some progress for my custom post process on Android. HDR is now correctly working as a global camera view and added other fancy stuff like custom dpi scale 😛

[fathom root]

Why HDR Off colors look more vibrant than HDR On? ✨😳

[dark vigil]

Because I applied a color grading (AgX) which is known to look a little bit desaturated. But in the future I'll add more color grading options. For now I focus on bloom and holy that is expensive 😭

[dark vigil]

Works on quest as well

[slow pier]

How does performance compare to post processing bloom on PC? I'd love a more performant alternative for bloom even if it doesn't look as good

Unity's PP stack is just too way heavy for my liking

[dark vigil]

The current bloom I implemented is not mobile friendly and the technique uses additional cameras to workaround the fact that VRChat dosnt allow us to work on the main camera directly... So I still have to find a way to make sure only 1 camera watches the scene at anytime and improve the bloom performance, then I'll compare with the PPv2 bloom 🙂

[tropic turtle]

Anyone know how to make a particle that when it collides with a player it teleports them?

[dark vigil]

My phone is android 14 and it still says it isnt available for download on my device

Im in the uk so maybe thats why?

Wrong channel

[pine jolt]

everything works, BUT when i join and wait a bit (around max 2min) it stops all sounds. i can see people talking around me but no sounds not even the basic sounds. how do i fix this

[slow pier]

Would you be able to provide some details on how you calculated the world position of each eye camera to get it lined up correctly in VR? The stereo view matrices in the reference camera don't seem to be working and using the player's head position with the reference camera's stereo projection matrices I can get it kinda close but it's still cross eyed and distorted in VR

I'm trying to make a cheaper background blur effect for my UI panels with per-eye render textures since grab pass is way too expensive in VR

That's with the mock HMD preview (using SPS-I), but in VRC it's not correct

[ashen birch]

when is VRR support coming out by chance? last time I had played, i noticed it stuck the display at 120Hz, even when i have Galaxy HzMax setting it to 48Hz, and the FPS limited limited to 48Hz as well for saving battery and reducing some of the heat output in lighter worlds.

Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 12/512GB [OneUI 6.1.1/Android 14], Galaxy HzMax 8.1.26 (from XDA Forums)

[white rover]

um can someone help

[stable badger]

your avatar is using a default unity shader, the vrchat standard lite in under the vrchat/mobile section

[vapid orchid]

You need to figure that out for yourself.

[near lava]

Honestly, I haven't experience crashes on my Android phone for a long while now despite having no hiding avatar options enabled, but it probably helps to have 12 GB of RAM there.

[worn aspen]

I want to ask when the language switching function will be available. Up to now, the language change option has not been added to the settings of the main page, only in the game.

[tame orchid]

I have a couple of Android avatar clients of mine messaging me about the quality of their avatars significantly lowering texture wise in VRChat and I informed them of the recent update, Patch 2024.4.2, build 1552, and received a follow-up question from them asking if there is any way to locally revert that setting for their headsets to have their quality back?

They've both claimed everything is in a much lower quality than it used to be and so I figured I'd ask on their behalf here!

[stone lark]

There is no way to turn it off, but it has been brought up before because photographers have been annoyed by it too, taking high resolution photos in filled instances gives photos with low quality textures on people's avis.

For Quest users I think the only way around it for the moment is to show less avatars and be in less intense worlds.

Pressumably streaming mip maps have made it so you can show more avatars than you used to, but when you reach that "too many avatars shown" limit again you get stuck with low resolution textures.

Guessing

[tame orchid]

Makes sense considering it's based on available shared memory. As I originally typed this I had two more quest friends of mine from a different group ask me the same thing x.x

[stone lark]

The feature was just released, and to my knowledge very few Quest users try the open betas, so there will probably be tweaks done in the coming week.

[tame orchid]

Hopefully! All four of them prefer their quality over anything else, so even having a Graphical toggle in some way if possible would be more than a better option for those on quest who love taking big group pictures ^^

[stone lark]

I don't think they will outright allow you to turn it off on Quest, at least not on the Quest 2 with its poor amount of RAM.
What are those Quest friends using btw (Q3 or Q2)?

[tame orchid]

A majority have the Quest 2, but never really have any issues with anything because they're normally in Friends+ instances

[stone lark]

Makes sense that Quest 2 users would see the biggest problems

[copper bridge]

#announcements message
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-202442

Changes & Fixes

• Mipmap streaming has been enabled.
  • This will dynamically load lower-resolution textures for Avatars and Worlds into VRAM as needed, meaning much more can be loaded before you start running into issues (stuttering, avatars failing to load, and hard crashes).
  • On Android and Quest, this budget is dynamically updated periodically based on your device's available shared memory, which should considerably reduce crashes and 'kicked to home' events.
  • On PC, the budget is set once on load based on your GPU's available VRAM, with a little wiggle room left for the OS.
  • On Avatars, "Mipmap Streaming Priority" is always treated as 0 (the value you set in the SDK is ignored). Whereas for Worlds, texture priority is left alone.

[vapid orchid]

You're in the wrong section for Quest, by the way.

[tame orchid]

It still applies to mobile :>

Since it's an android platform, ofc

[tame orchid]

And what you sent was already discussed, fyi.

I thank you for that though ^^

[hallow minnow]

Can someone tell me why I'm not able to download the game

[vapid orchid]

What kind of phone do you have?

[copper bridge]

if your smartphone doesn't have the minimum requirements hardware-wise, you won't be able to download it

[hallow minnow]

I have a moto g stylus 4g

[knotty bough]

hey is it on all androids

[vapid orchid]

Well... not all Android devices...

[copper bridge]

no... only android phones that have the needed hardware capabilities... if you can download it on the Google Play Store, then your phone is able to play it, else your phone can't...
see: #android-announcements

[thorny zenith]

Heya everyonen whenever I try to set my build platform to Android, it changes my performance metrics but not the actual platform that it's uploading to. Any idea why?

I've tried creating entire new Unity projects and reinstalling the SDK, btw.

[terse basin]

well do you even have android installed

[silk thunder]

Does anyone know why I never get invites on the game? It's been like that since I started vrchat

[ionic fractal]

Recommend checking your privacy settings

[prime vault]

dumb question but does Vrchat on phone ever will be avaible for Iphones?

[vapid orchid]

#ios-info

[eternal moss]

hello is 4 gigabytes possivle to run vrchat ?

my tablet 4

i meant ram

[untold solar]

Get a phone with 6GB of RAM and Android 10 OS bare minimum

[eternal moss]

ok

[storm sphinx]

Is it possible to run a VM or emulator or some sort if I don't have a compatible phone? I have no intention of submitting bug reports.

[thorny badge]

The apk uses play integrity APIs so you might not have much luck with emulators

[weak sigil]

When will individual arm/hand movement be added?

[untold solar]

Don't use with 4GB ram phones. It won't launch, crash, or low fps by self

[stone lark]

As far as I know it has never been talked about by the team, so we don't know if it is even something they intend to add.

[weak sigil]

I just want to move my basic avatars hands since I can't play VRchat on a vr headset bc ion got 302$ rn

[stone lark]

I know someone managed to get it working in the early days of this version, but that's it, I don't know what they did to make it working.
And as said you need play integrity APIs, so it will be messy regardless.

[thorny badge]

(That was me :3), The early builds didn't have play integrity enabled

so they 'just worked'

that was only on the closed beta ones iirc

[stone lark]

Ah I see.

It is kind of unclear whether it is an emulator or not, but if it is then VRChat should get themselves added to the PC version of the google play store that was released a few months ago.

If anything, it should at least run.

[thorny badge]

I think its mainly to try and prevent monkeys from running modified clients

[humble verge]

Is there any work being done to get VRChat ready for Android XR when those headsets become available?

I know that Android studio has an emulator for XR headsets and it supports openxr 1.1

I know that Google is sending some headsets out to some developers

If you don't know about it then here's the actual site

https://developer.android.com/develop/xr

[stone lark]

Unless it has been mentioned in one of their livestreams then we don't know, it hasn't been mentioned in any developer updates, but they have been on Holiday break though so they might bring it up soon.

Although they are surely porting it over, they are already supporting several standalone platforms and this will hopefully be a big one.

[thorny badge]

I doubt that much would actually need to be done from the app developer side, it's more of a unity implementation thing if anything

[humble verge]

I know that apps on android will support XR by default just have to ensure that it is actually running in VR rather than as a 2D app

[thorny badge]

Hopefully it still supports the rendering mode needed by vrchat or else there will be funny problems too lol

(double wide rendering sps)

[humble verge]

Judging by that Unity were there for the announcement for Android XR and there's mentions of Unity being used for easy development. Most likely, Gemini does confirms it when I googled it and Ik Google is supporting open standards https://developer.android.com/develop/xr/unity

Just a matter of having the hardware I guess

[humble verge]

Ik the Android team does have a waitlist where devs can join and get hands on the hardware and support for development

[copper bridge]

if i am understanding you right, it is just an Android VR headset? then they likely just need to repackage the Quest version of VRChat and deploy it on that new platform, since Quest is just an Android, right? 😕
but other than that, i don't really see what it has to do with the Android mobile phone app version of VRChat, so this is likely the wrong place to ask 🤷

[humble verge]

SDKs will be slightly different to the quest and the android app will need to have some added code to support the android xr platform really otherwise you'll have both a 2D and an actual vr version of VRChat on the playstore. The Android team did mention this during their reveal last month

[copper bridge]

likely easier to keep it as two separate apps... since i assume it is two separate types of hardware? 🤷
but i know nothing about this topic

[humble verge]

Will probably be two different files but on the same download page

I know that there's a VM in the alpha build of Android Studio for the XR platform, obvs easier with actual hardware but have to wait for that

[copper bridge]

if it is a viable platform to do VR on, then i am sure VRChat will look into it, just have to wait 😅
likely too early to be worrying about it yet... they likely can't talk about it publicly before they have actually researched it, so that they don't promise something they end up not being able to keep 🤔

[humble verge]

Tbh Google only recently shown it off so probs won't see anything about for a while

[copper bridge]

or it might require Unity updating? which has all those new license issues 😨

[humble verge]

Most likely

[limpid bone]

I'm not sure if I can talk about this here, but is it just me or has anyone else had problems with interactions on Android?

Like, when I visited rooms to change my avatar, for example, even clicking on the avatar icon that appeared on the wall, like in "Prismic's Avatar Search", it kind of didn't happen, sometimes I clicked and managed to change my avatar too, but I I didn't really understand if there was a specific way to interact with things in the game, through the mobile version, or if it was a bug.

Anyway, I think it would be cool to have a button that simulates the click of the left mouse button on mobile, but that would only be visible when an object is in your "crosshairs".
But I don't want to seem picky or anything, I'm happy that the developers are constantly updating and really caring about this mobile version of the game, even last year I couldn't play it but with some optimizations it can work fine now even though my phone doesn't being strong for games like this.

[untold solar]

I had that happen while on PCVR

[copper bridge]

bug reports and feature requests should be posted at https://feedback.vrchat.com/
as for not always working when you click an avatar pedestal, is it maybe because you are trying to click avatars that are "Very Poor" performance rated?

[limpid bone]

Not exactly, I think it's more of an incompatibility

I did a test by equipping an avatar on the PC version, and it worked well, but on mobile it had no animation at all, and the other avatars I saved didn't load either.

It's as if they weren't supported in the Mobile version, I don't know how to explain it

And apparently the interaction problem only happened in these cases of avatars, it seems that interacting with other things works normally

[copper bridge]

unless you link to the avatars, or at least tell us their performance rating, we can't really help you figure it...

[limpid bone]

Don't worry, I think this could actually be because the app is still in beta

What reinforces my theory is that not all avatars appear in the search we do in "Prismic's Avatar Search". For example, if you search for Tanjiro's avatar on PC, several avatars will appear

But on Mobile, if I'm not mistaken, only 2 appear

But it's not like I'm demanding a solution, I just wanted to comment on it and find out if it's normal, or whatever, understand why

[copper bridge]

that is because the world has a filter option that hides PC avatars, and by default when you are on Quest, it will have that on... and besides, it is the world doing that, not the app

[limpid bone]

Got it :v

It's just that I had never played VRChat in my life, I didn't know there were these differences xd

But, anyway, I'm happy that you started developing the Mobile version. Here in my country, having a PC is still not a reality for many people, and considering that there are many people accessing the internet today via mobile, it is an interesting strategy to increase the gaming audience.

And enable more people to connect and chat on VRChat

[untold solar]

You can change the middle filter to very poor if you want for Quest. It is set to poor because you could only use upto poor at first.

[dark vigil]

Anyone know why when I rotate my Pixel 6a all audio sources play by themselves?

[copper bridge]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/all-world-sounds-play-after-focus-change

[dark vigil]

thanks!

guess the fix for now is to just enable and disable the audio source huh

i tried muting and changing the volume to no avail lol

[copper bridge]

i just have world sounds completely off on the Android app version... since it is extremely annoying

[thorny badge]

Oh Christ, every one off sound in my world is playing constantly and at max volume on joining

it was MUCH louder on the initial join than the new Instances oddly too

Very weird

[copper bridge]

might be related to my above bug report?
#android-dev message

[thorny badge]

maybe, id have to test more

[thorny badge]

I can't get it to happen again

[frigid raft]

Over the weekend I was at my parents, wanted to show them VRChat, I installed the app on one of their phones (Samsung A53), created an account using Gmail, but each time i tried to join a world it would get stuck at 50%. Gave up on that, installed the app on my phone (Xperia V IV), logged in with my VRC account and everything worked fine.
Today trying to to make an alt account for myself so i can test my worlds properly without reeling on friends that are not always online, I made an account using Gmail on the mobile app, i confirmed the email, but each time i try to load a world it stops at 50%... Even waited 10 mins+, doesn't matter what world i try to load. Thought maybe its the Gmail account link, i upgraded the account to a VRC Account, but the issue persists. Logged out, logged in my main account, everything works fine again. Logged back to the new account, still doesn't load any worlds and just stops at 50%. Is this a known issue?

[covert hatch]

This channel is not for support, please do use #1138891887374237706

[solid mural]

known issue, we're investigating

[near saffron]

Have you recently improved the quality of face tracking for Android? Yesterday I noticed it was even smoother than usual, and if so, what else do you plan to improve?

[hushed lava]

The mic is still broken in the mobile version

Before the update the mic is fine until it updated

I could only talk for a few second after that it vanished. Dev is there a way to fix it?

[copper bridge]

then make a bug report... posting about it here won't do much 🤷
you make bug reports here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta
and post a link to bug report here once you have made it, so others can up-vote it and add their own information to it

[hushed lava]

Ok thanks I'll get to it

[near saffron]

happens to me too, I can only talk for a few minutes and then the microphone doesn't go beyond 5% threshold

[copper bridge]

it was happening to me too, and when i looked in the microphone settings, i saw the activation threshold was at max... check to see if it is for you too?

[near saffron]

i Will screen record later and send it here, to explain it better

[near saffron]

joining a world and after about 2-3 minutes my microphone stops working (I'm literally yelling into the microphone and it doesn't go past the threshold)

[near lava]

Oof, I had that problem since the Alpha launched. One of the reasons I always set my status to "Do Not Disturb" and never speak when going on vrc on my phone. ><'

[untold solar]

I was using a gaming headset wit my phone, and the mic still broke, until I put on Do Not Distrurb. Phone calls will still go thru btw

[copper bridge]

custom UI options? i don't think that is released to Live yet? 😕
i remember they talked about it ages ago, but there hasn't been any news on it for a while 🤔

[wooden rune]

Is there an iOS beta test

?

Ty

u da goat

im lowk blind for not seeing dat

[copper bridge]

i am seeing something weird with the world i am making... on Android Mobile, it is highlighting everything if i am at the center of the object 🤔
there is no UdonBehavior on these objects

[restive bridge]

This is either the author of the world did not optimize something, or there are problems with the mobile version of Vrchat

[copper bridge]

yes... those are the two only options... and maybe i made a mistake, but i don't know yet 🤷

[restive bridge]

I haven't checked this world, but my friends have had the same problems

[copper bridge]

"this world" being my unpublished world 😅
but yeah, it is likely an Android Mobile issue... will make a bug report once i know more 🤔

[near saffron]

That also usually happens when you activate someone's avatar, a blue box is shown and you can barely see, I don't know if it's a problem with their avatar or if it's not well optimized

[near saffron]

@copper bridge This is what I mean

[copper bridge]

yeah... i assume that happens because the avatar has a seat on it? but i haven't tested it too much 🤔
because it doesn't happen when i am seeing the fallback or impostor 🤷

[near saffron]

If you disable their avatar or put it with the security filter, the blue boxes are disabled, but no, it does not have a seat on the avatar

its weird I thought that could be disabled somehow.

[copper bridge]

you sure? most GogoLoco avatars have a seat as part of the flight system 🤔

[near saffron]

Maybe that's it, but as far as I can see, there's no seat.

[copper bridge]

no, it is separate meshes, only the time little mesh in the middle of the door is intractable...

[copper bridge]

i know, and that is why i am confused

[silk pagoda]

So is adding custom stuff not an option via mobile yet?

[terse basin]

Rotate your phone

[silk pagoda]

Oh shit yea I'm slow 😭

[thorny badge]

Has anyone ran into every audio source in their world playing at once, but it only happens on phones, not on quest/pc ?

[copper bridge]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/all-world-sounds-play-after-focus-change

[carmine ruin]

Not sure how devs could fix this, but a common problem i have on here is when opening chat box or interacting with os ui in any world, a specific random sound starts playing forever. For example the text sound in audience anarchy

[copper bridge]

literally posted right above
#android-dev message
it is a Android Mobile bug, not a world issue

[carmine ruin]

Oh ok

[copper bridge]

i think people have been reporting that happening on all platforms, and is likely a server side issue... see: #server-status
but bug should be reported here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[novel bloom]

I am having a problem with downloading VRChat Mobile because my phone is current and meets the requierments, but on the appstore it says that my phone is incompatable. And yes my phone is Android.

[near saffron]

You probably have to download it from the internet, not from the store

[novel bloom]

Do you have a reliable download perhaps?

[near saffron]

Nope, but maybe someone else has it, they've talked about that problem before on this channel

[novel bloom]

Could you perhaps get me into contact with them please?

[novel bloom]

I have one more problem, I can't load into a world.

It says at 0% on the loading screen

[near saffron]

ermm

I usually just restart the app when it happens.

[novel bloom]

I just tried but it didn't work.

[near saffron]

what kind of phone do you have

[novel bloom]

Galaxy A15

[near saffron]

and how much ram do you have

I see that this model has 4 to 8 GB of ram

[novel bloom]

It also uses Ram Plus which uses my storage as extra ram space

[near saffron]

hmm I haven't really had these errors so I don't know how to help too much-
You could try clearing your device's cache.

I have a Poco F5 pro

[novel bloom]

Huh

[near saffron]

What I mean is that I haven't had these errors because of the phone model I have.

[novel bloom]

Huh

[novel bloom]

How do I do that?

[near saffron]

You need to enter your cell phone's storage and look for an option that lets you delete the cache.

[novel bloom]

Also what version of Android do I need again?

[near saffron]

Android 10

[novel bloom]

I have Android 14

[near saffron]

then you're okay

I really don't know why on some devices it gives that error

[novel bloom]

That needs to get fixed.

[near saffron]

That's the problem with still being in beta

There are several errors/bugs and they are still updating vrc

[novel bloom]

True, but I feel like that should be fixed, it's an odd bug

[novel bloom]

I found a simple workaround to my problem using Nvidea

[near saffron]

If you have questions about those things on this channel, they usually have similar problems, so

[vapid orchid]

👀

[vapid orchid]

That doesn't do anything.

[silk pagoda]

I've been having this bug happen often is it normal?

[copper bridge]

make a bug report, here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[silk pagoda]

I'm just wondering if it's normal or happens to anyone else I don't really need to report it it's nothing bothering me

[shut belfry]

No company would do this on purpose

it's obvious that you got the placeholder text

[copper bridge]

it is not normal as far as i know... i don't see it... so best to make a bug report

[silk pagoda]

Again it's not interrupting the game when I play and it usually happens for a split second this time it happened for about five so no I'm not making a big report it's not needed nor necessary I'll only bug report if it's bothering the way I play

[copper bridge]

then make a small/non-big bug report 😟
if issues aren't reported, they are never fixed... and it doesn't take long to post a picture and a simple description... the longest part if getting the app version number 🤷

[silk pagoda]

Ok dude whatever 😮‍💨

[solid mural]

i'm intrigued enough to make a bug report on my own, thanks for sharing!

[silk pagoda]

Yea sure np

[restive bridge]

Hello, I encountered a problem after the update. Selfie tracking stops working after re-entering the game.

[copper bridge]

make a bug report on the Canny, here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[lavish dove]

Good day devs. Can you make it so that when the players are taken to the ingame environment, the orientation would switch to landscape rather than staying on portrait?

Or at least offer an option for that?

[vapid orchid]

Follow the link right above yours.

[lavish dove]

Thanks.

Wait somebody beat me to it from 2 years ago...

Nice.

[muted tapir]

I've enabled logging in the Android app, but when I go to Internal storage/Documents/Logs, the folder remains empty... has the path changed or something?

(alternately, is there a way to show that console on screen like the rshift-tilde-3 thing on desktop?)

(also: the "share logs" button doesn't seem to do anything?)

[muted tapir]

reinstalling the app didn't change anything

[copper bridge]

you might have to make a bug report about it, especially if the button doesn't work at all
you do so here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[dark vigil]

Hello, I want to know why VRChat 2025.1.3 does not open on my Moto G9 Play due to a hardware problem, even though it was running 2025.1.2 with plenty of power? Can you explain it to me, please?

This photo is from VRChat running on this same cell phone.

[dark vigil]

Video proving that low-end cell phones run normally

[copper bridge]

bug reports go here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[eager locust]

Hey, what happened to the flying mode for the camera? And the drone doesn't work on Android vrchat btw

[copper bridge]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/flying-button-missing-from-camera

[eager locust]

Wait, how can I rotate my vrchat screen tho, having vertical is getting annoying lol

[silk pagoda]

Rotate your phone screen

[copper bridge]

enable this and then just rotate your screen...
i don't think there is an easier way at the moment, and i don't think you can lock it either... 😞

[twin niche]

What world is tht

[fathom root]

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_56b58685-e0f3-48de-8b13-4e4a81295a54/info

[twin niche]

Thank uu

[dark vigil]

bruh

Ratatata‼️‼️

[muted tapir]

is there a way to make Interactables not have the big blue square around them?

(but still have the same clickable area as if it were there?)

[silk pagoda]

Sadly I don't think so I think it's so you know what is an interactable and what isn't

[restive bridge]

Unfortunately no, I have checked all the methods. The only option is to aim with the sight. This way you can see objects up close without aiming and without getting a blue light

[vast musk]

How do I get access to vrc on mobile I have iOS

[silk pagoda]

You can't it's not released to the public yet they had people sign up for it and chose a select few to beta test it

[vast musk]

Ohhhhhh

[copper bridge]

#ios-info

[dusky mango]

Hey, I have a Screen Overlay Canvas that has a button, but I can't get it to trigger no matter what I do.

When I manually trigger the button using the Inspector Window, the button does what its been told to do. However when I tap on the button with my finger, it doesn't register a tap & trying this on Desktop while holding TAB also doesn't work.

Am I missing something?

NEVERMIND I accidentally found the solution, & that solution was to add the VRC Ui Shape component. DESPITE ME TESTING THAT EARLIER & IT DIDN'T WORK.

Unity Spaghetti. It's cold & hard.

[primal orbit]

what are these challages

i gotta beat the vrchat battle pass

[silk pagoda]

🤣

[green viper]

i am waiting for vrchat mobile cause then i can take it wherever

but i have an idea make it so theres a mirror cam in the top right pf the screen so you can see your avatar

like a rear view mirror

[vapid orchid]

Ummm... are you on iPhone or Android?

[silk pagoda]

You just use the camera and put it behind you and put it on local to see yourself like that though

[green viper]

i cant play idk how but i am on android but i just thought it be cool or another idea is kinda motion tracking but using the camera to track your body

like the ghost camera but with the stick fifgure

figure*

[vapid orchid]

Uhhh.... what?

[silk pagoda]

How would that work you would have to be standing away from your phone and at that point you can't even play 😭

[green viper]

dang didnt think of that

but thats a good point\

thank you

[silk pagoda]

Yea tbf it does sound cool ASF but sadly there would be no way to actually make it work

[green viper]

yeah plus thats another permission vrchat asks for on the phone and depending on what phone you have it could slow down gameplay

[muted tapir]

what shader model can I go up to (in a world) without leaving out Quest or Android?

[copper bridge]

you should probably ask in #world-quest instead

[ivory prism]

add VSync mobile option

[rustic magnet]

Sadge, we're back to old vrchat mobile?, didnt noticed they changed back so no one can use "poor" or "too poor" avatars now?

[untold solar]

I was able to use my very poor avatar

[rustic magnet]

Today?

[untold solar]

I opened my game a few minutes ago and checked updates. No updates for me.

[untold solar]

Poor avatars were always usable.

Not very poors until tests around late December. Otherwise beginning August 2023.

[copper bridge]

known issue:
https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta/p/unable-to-use-any-very-poor-avatars

[copper bridge]

@placid rune hope you didn't search for that bug report too long 😅
it is getting a little bit dusty...

[placid rune]

oh um hi

I didn't really search I was just scrolling through here and happened to stumble on it. glad it's not just me lol

[primal orbit]

How much ram do phones have that can run vrchat on them. I would assume phones with 2 to 4 gigs can't really run it well right?

[terse basin]

6gb minimum

[primal orbit]

Okay that's better then

How much do people usually run high end and mid?

[terse basin]

6gb Ig?

[vapid orchid]

Phones have predetermined DRAM. 👀

[spice crown]

My things glitching in prismics avatar world,when I press a avatar it won't change my avatar

[copper bridge]

it has been reported before... they seemingly had to click the button a lot, and then it suddenly changed after a while 🤷

[spice crown]

Why can't this be fixed,its easy just check and change the code

[vapid orchid]

@pallid nymph

This man demands satisfaction.

[pallid nymph]

What's the avatar?

[spice crown]

Im trying to use turmoil(remake) by No__Show

There's others I'm just using the one I'm trying to use rn

[vapid orchid]

It, um... it tells you right on the thumbnail.

[spice crown]

If i try to press any avi it won't let me become it

[pallid nymph]

You cant load very poor avatars on android mobile.

[spice crown]

Even if its not very poor

If i press it it won't let me change it

[pallid nymph]

Send me an example of a not very poor one that doesnt work then

[pallid nymph]

But at the very least, this one doesnt show up by default, you had to have changed the filters to show that

[unreal marsh]

Very poor works on mobile.... Very poor pedestals load the avatar when selected. That shouldn't be the issue

[spice crown]

So @pallid nymph what's the problem?

[unreal marsh]

Nothing you can really fix. But pointing it out was helpful I'm sure. Developing worlds for mobile is still pretty new and there may be some random issue with their specific setup or even a bug with the game relating to their setup.

[pallid nymph]

Was that changed? Cause there was definitely a time when they didn't work.

[pallid nymph]

Not sure, but yeah, that one there should work. Investigating, and thanks for the heads up

[unreal marsh]

It was changed a while ago. They added support for up to 4 iirc, yours and three others to be enabled/worn in an instance.

[pallid nymph]

Good to know, thank you

[spice crown]

Im using the S24 FE

Just for knowledge

[unreal marsh]

My Internet here in this rainforest is super terrible but I managed to join a world and test if the avatar pedestals with very poor still work and they do. I wasn't able to join Prismic since I didn't want to wait 20 minutes to load while not using my phone lmao. But at least I was able to confirm pedestals themselves are working currently

[pallid nymph]

@spice crown Figured it out, it was a layer issue ("Interactive", while interactive on other platforms, apparently isn't on mobile). Should be fixed now. Very Poor will also show on android mobile searches by default now as well.

[unreal marsh]

Strange. Wonder if that is indeed a bug

[untold solar]

Very poor avatars have worked for me on phone. I was able to switch from poor to very poor on the ranking selector for Android.

Avatars show highlights, but not selectable

[untold solar]

The video shows highlight for selecting, but can't change into the avatar. The avatar I'm using is a private and is very poor.

@pallid nymph

[unreal marsh]

Scroll up and read.

They'll have to update the world. They already know about the issue

[pallid nymph]

I updated the world and tested it earlier and it was working on android mobile, but just tried now and it isn't again 😐 Guess more debugging time...

I appreciate the heads up btw. But I will suggest for the sake of this being VRC's discord, dm me or send a message in my discord for future people reading this if you have issues.

[copper bridge]

ah, cute, my fallback avatar was listed first in that search 😛

[untold solar]

Will do next time

[spice crown]

Ye what's happening it still won't work

[umbral junco]

Trynna apply vrc

[rose pine]

Can we have more fps and graphic settings more improvement?

Also is there in future like we can upload avatar using app?

[fathom root]

Not possible except VRM avatars like Cluster, uploaded via website. Here's example…

Yet, it can't do any custom things on avatars unlike VRC

[terse basin]

basically mesh data, tracking rig data, blendshape assignment data, mmd component data like springbones

[copper bridge]

if you want to make a feature request, you should do it on VRChat's Canny board, here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/

[rose pine]

My unity hub is keep validating

It not finish yet

[copper bridge]

you should probably ask for help about that in #avatar-help or something... it isn't really related to Android mobile 🤷
or seek out actual Unity support

[earnest acorn]

Anyone knows why can't avatars emotes don't have sound ?I'm using a very poor avatar and the roar+growl sound should have sounds but they won't play,can someone help me ?

[terse basin]

avatar sounds are pc only

[earnest acorn]

Rip

[terse basin]

they have always been pc only

[earnest acorn]

When they will become available for mobile

[terse basin]

never

not even quest has them

[earnest acorn]

Rip

Ok

Thx for telling me

[terse basin]

its also why you dont even have the setting for it in audio

[rose pine]

How do I upload my avatar?

It hard

Any easier way?

[vapid orchid]

Ummm.... nothing is preventing you from uploading.

[untold solar]

If it is giving you an issue for uploading, restart unity project, and autofix mipmaps

[rose pine]

It always said failed build

[copper bridge]

go to #avatar-help or #avatar-quest, you are much more likely to get help there

[barren harness]

VRChat should be google Cardboard accessible

[vapid orchid]

That's only 3DOF.

[tribal mesa]

No they haven't. Quest used to be able to hear sounds, I distinctly remember them

[terse basin]

no that was never a feature

there WAS a bypass but it was never allowed to begin with

[tribal mesa]

Idk, every avatar sound used to work for me way back when I first had it

[terse basin]

because of a modded sdk that bypassed the restriction

it was never a feature vrchat allowed
so no it was never a thing

[tribal mesa]

Odd

So vrc can allow sound but they don't? Or something with quest restrictions? And why could I use to hear them now don't?

[terse basin]

I literally just explained it

vrchat NEVER ALLOWED IT to begin with
someone found a bypass which was then fixed VERY SOON AFTER

during the very short time it existed it was very easy to crash quest players

[tribal mesa]

Okay, I get it. Thanks

[rose pine]

Can we get free Age verification?

[vapid orchid]

No.

Each verification literally costs money.

[fathom root]

I'm sure they will release for free in few months later, just like Stickers in Open Beta recently!

[copper bridge]

same thing as the whole "transparency on Quest avatars", it was NEVER an allowed feature, but stupid avatar creators hacked the SDK or whatever to bypass the restriction... 😐
then it was fixed and every Quest user cried over the loss of a feature they never had 😞

[copper bridge]

that question is completely unrelated to Android mobile... 🤷
i suggest asking in #vrchat-general-1 instead... 😅

[untold solar]

It was during those few weeks after EAC launch, and before personal mirrors got added. But only a few, not every avi had sound.

[restive bridge]

Wait, you mean stickers in vrchat will be available for free soon?

[unreal marsh]

Normal stickers yes.

Custom stickers are vrc+

[fathom root]

Yes! You can check their changelog here #open-beta-announcements message

[rose pine]

Wooohooo

[vast hinge]

Tbh the forced push to talk is weird

[vapid orchid]

Not really. It's to prevent hot-mic'ing.

The speaker and mic are right next to each other.

[copper bridge]

you can turn it off if you attach an external microphone (bluetooth headset for example)

[glad flame]

How do you guys get mobile app to save pictures being taken using the vrc camera?

[copper bridge]

save how? they are saved on your device, somewhere

[glad flame]

Its not saving on mine i have nl idea why the app is allowed to access my files already

[copper bridge]

they are located here for me

[copper bridge]

or are you trying to say it is giving an error and can't save?
these are the only permissions i have on the app 🤔

[glad flame]

Heres mine and i dont get errors they just dont appear anywhere on my phone

[copper bridge]

what app are you using to try and find them? 😕

[glad flame]

The normal file manager app my phone has

[copper bridge]

and the path i showed above didn't yield anything?
#android-dev message
All Files -> Pictures -> VRChat

[glad flame]

There was no VRChat folder there so i made one and tried to take pictures again but nothing

Ill try reinstalling my app later when i get back home

Other than this picture problem im having the mobile version works fine XD

[glad flame]

Hey out of curiosity is there something bellow manage for you cuz mine is empty

[copper bridge]

the "Manage" section is for managing your images on your VRChat account, which requires VRC+, it is unrelated for this

but for me right now, it just sounds like you don't know how to find it in your files app? 😕

[copper bridge]

i might have a different phone from you... i have a OnePlus, and i am using the default "My Files" app... so i do this to find it 🤔

[glad flame]

Using a samsung s9+

I made the folders myself imma try to see if that works or not

[glad flame]

Same here but even making the folder didnt work

Thanks for helping by the way looks like i wont be able to take pictures while playing vrchat sadly unless i figure out why its not letting me do it

Well ill just take screenshots till i get it fixed

[vapid orchid]

Ayyy, which one?

I have an Open.

[copper bridge]

OnePlus 10 Pro 5G

[vapid orchid]

Nice!

That was my previous phone.

[rose pine]

Hi

[ionic rapids]

I'm not sure if this is something I should raise an issues with, so I'd like to ask here.

When I play VRChat, I usually play with my smartphone screen turned sideways.

The screen may revert to portrait mode at some points when moving between worlds or closing the Launch Pad.

Previously, the screen would remain the same even in landscape mode, but after the update it has become like this, which is a bit inconvenient.

I forgot if there was an option to fix the screen orientation somewhere, but if there wasn't, it would be a hassle to fix the screen orientation every time.

[copper bridge]

i usually enable the "auto rotate" option in Android when i play VRChat... but i haven't found a way to lock the orientation 🤔

[ionic rapids]

I feel like it was there before, but I can't find it, so I have to deal with it every time something like this happens.

[copper bridge]

i have never had an issue while playing with "auto rotate" enabled, so that is my best suggestion... it would be nice if the app had its own option for it though 😅
having "auto rotate" enabled while playing can also be useful, since i can easily change back to portrait orientation for faster typing 🤔

[ionic rapids]

yes!

[earnest acorn]

Will they ever add sound to VR chat mobile?

Like I want to hear my dino avatars roar

[terse basin]

Probably not cause mobile hardware weak

Like the quest doesnt even have it so how do you expect phones to get it

[earnest acorn]

Ow ok

[copper bridge]

Quest/Android does not support avatar sounds, they never have and most likely never will... 🤔
they might research if it is possible when they finish implementing Steam Audio, but it is very unlikely since Quest/Android hardware doesn't like advanced audio systems like this 🤷

[earnest acorn]

Ok

[untold solar]

Best to invest in pc for avi sounds

People have used their mics to play the sounds for all to hear.

There was a short window back in the summer of 2022, between EAC initiation, and Personal mirrors when some avis had sound on quest. Others have confirmed this.

[terse basin]

Which was purely because of a bypass and not in any way an actual intended feature

[unreal marsh]

Yeah that has been done since the launch of Q1 itself. It was trivial for people to remove a single check in the sdk and upload quest avatars with audio and poi. Wasn't really a brief period this was possible either. Just not widespread since it always violated tos and required someone to actually open an SDK script and comment out a paragraph manually.

Audio sources are fairly heavy on performance tho. People don't really understand this. While maybe in the future as headset performance continues to improve we may get something down the line, but for now, they're too expensive for widespread use.

[waxen yacht]

yeah, you can genuinely fuck up quest audio with audio sources iirc

i imagine the same applies to android phones

[copper bridge]

Quest and Android are the same... the Quest standalone headset is literally just Android hardware 🤷

[ivory prism]

So, in this version, the speakers muted and your quest avi is starting to lag

Also, favorite pc only worlds will be hidden

[untold solar]

@ivory prism You have Push to Talk to speak with others, or using a headset you can speak with others with Mic Always On or toggable. Avatars lag from being unoptimized depending on hardware.

[ivory prism]

I hope your device starts overheating and lagging on busy instances

[untold solar]

@ivory prism Been testing this platform since August 2023. On a Samsumg A52 at 1st, and now Samsung S23 FE. Phone warms up if you watch videos for hours. So what's your point.

Plus I have safety settings and avatar culling on

And only allow upto 4 very poor avatars including my own.

[copper bridge]

that is normal when doing any sort of gaming on a smartphone... 😕

[unreal marsh]

Fortnite on Max graphics makes my s24U get toasty, way more than vrc. Does help a bit to have a good enough power brick for passthrough power tho.

Crazy to think that things get hot when you dump a ton of energy into them.

Phone mount on the AC vent keeps it ice cold however lol.

[untold solar]

I have played Pokemon Go for hours in 90F weather

[unkempt cliff]

VRChat 😏

[waxen yacht]

vrchat

[fathom root]

VRChat

[ivory prism]

Yep, that's is last year's flagship.

This year's flagship is s25 ultra cus it has a newer chipsets

Definitely his last year flagship caused by the vaper chamber was struggling the chipset.

[clever anvil]

Sorry if i ask this, even this question already ask thousand time by other. Is it the game mobile version had problem mic or is it my headphone

[untold solar]

The mic issue is due to connectivity, and how long you been in the instance. Rejoining fixes it, but then the mic goes bad.

Friends say it goes bad, and I experience it with second account. I also have an local friend in the room experience it. 12GB RAM, and superb phone service helps reduce this.

[tight creek]

Does anyone know why I can't install Vrchat on my phone? I have a moto phone but they are considered a type of android. I don't know if it's just because of my phone or if it's just not out yet for moto.

[vapid orchid]

Does your phone have 6GB of RAM and on Android 10?

[desert epoch]

Hey I have a question?

[vapid orchid]

Ask?

[desert epoch]

Will the Bluetooth headphones bug on vrchat mobile evr be fixed?

[vapid orchid]

What do you mean?

[desert epoch]

Like when I try to change my audio input for headphones it won't let me. I play on a Samsung Galaxy tab S9 FE.

[vapid orchid]

Is that supported normally?

Not sure where the line between tablet and phone support is.

[desert epoch]

I think so I'm not sure 😅 but it definitely has enough ram to run vrchat mobile. But like the button to change audio input to my headphones to use the mic isn't there.

[unreal marsh]

Afaik It should just automatically use your headphones if they're connected. Should be controlled by android itself.

Ah yeah nvm. Plays audio through headphones but doesn't use the mic at all it seems.

[copper bridge]

not if there isn't a bug report about it... if there isn't one, i suggest making one 🤷
bug reports for Android mobile are made here: https://feedback.vrchat.com/mobile-beta

[knotty bough]

Umm can i download vrchat on my phone?

[restive bridge]

If you can't find it in the play market, then most likely it's not there 🙂

[copper bridge]

#android-announcements message

[plucky prism]

i just upgraded mine and it has 8GBs of ram and is android 13 and says not supported why dont you make a compatible one for android 10(plus)

[vapid orchid]

What phone? 👀

[copper bridge]

what model is the phone?
some phone models advertise having more RAM than the device actually has, usually marked as "4 GB RAM + 4 GB virtual RAM" or something like that 😟

[restive bridge]

Oh, are there any Russian speakers here? 🤔

[copper bridge]

not sure what you mean by that, or why you said it at all... your message history on this server is frankly sad and screams "i is bot"... 😓

[plucky prism]

ill prove ut

it*

[vapid orchid]

👀 That don't look like an S24 Ultra to me...

[plucky prism]

have you heard of the developer moddel?

thats the one i own

[vapid orchid]

Like, a prototype version?

[plucky prism]

yes

[vapid orchid]

That might be why.

[plucky prism]

it runs games like its nothing tho

including gention impact

[plucky prism]

its running android13 tho

[vapid orchid]

That "About Phone" looks sketchy.

Did it not come with OneUI?

[plucky prism]

nope because custoomised os

customized

[vapid orchid]

What OS did you put on it?

[plucky prism]

i had a friend do it

so i dont know what they added

[vapid orchid]

It... should tell you what OS it has.

Unless you got a fake phone.

[plucky prism]

let me see

[vapid orchid]

I think you have a fake phone, my guy.

[plucky prism]

does that help?

[vapid orchid]

Nope.

[plucky prism]

it was an open source project

[vapid orchid]

AOSP?

[plucky prism]

yes

[vapid orchid]

Yeah, I'm calling BS.

You can't install AOSP on a Samsung phone without rooting.

[copper bridge]

it might be because you have a customized OS then?
maybe the PlayStore thinks your device don't met the requirements for some reason 🤷
you will have to check up with the OS you are using... not sure anyone here can help you with that 😅

[vapid orchid]

Look at the CPU name... "Snapdragon8 Gen2". That just screams fake.

[plucky prism]

i mean when i went for build it sent me here

[vapid orchid]

It should be Snapdragon:reg: 8 Gen 2.

[plucky prism]

snap dragon gen2

they had a gen 1

[copper bridge]

i don't know much about that, so i can't comment on it... but clearly the PlayStore doesn't think the devices meets the requirements 🤔
so the PlayStore clearly knows something we don't 😟

[plucky prism]

wich ran a older version

[plucky prism]

or it could have a failed certificate

[copper bridge]

then it is still your your device's or its OS's issue... 🤷

[vapid orchid]

Where did you get your phone from?

[plucky prism]

yeah or poor a signal which im waiting for a booster

[plucky prism]

i got it from a friend of my partner who i do live with

[vapid orchid]

Does it have all working cameras?

[copper bridge]

booster? no? internet connection would not be the cause of thise...

[plucky prism]

i mean it runs google fine

[vapid orchid]

Or is one a dud?

[plucky prism]

ones half ag working

[plucky prism]

ah*

[vapid orchid]

Explain "half working".

[plucky prism]

they fail to respond

half of the time

thats probably why

[vapid orchid]

I'm still convinced you're using a fake phone.

[plucky prism]

besides i rarely use them

[vapid orchid]

There's no such model as an "S24 Ultra".

[plucky prism]

all well

really?

[vapid orchid]

Except a Galaxy S24 Ultra.

[copper bridge]

which all have 12GB RAM it seems, so whatever they have is inferior

[vapid orchid]

Also, I looked it up, there's no such thing as a "developer model".

[vapid orchid]

Yep. It's fake.

[plucky prism]

not all do

[plucky prism]

the rom is right

[vapid orchid]

https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s24_ultra-12771.php

BOOM.

[plucky prism]

256GB

[vapid orchid]

A legit S24 Ultra has a Gen 3 chip.

[plucky prism]

i mean it could have been removed or replaced

[vapid orchid]

👀 No.

You got a fake phone.

Anyone can go in and edit the build.prop to make it say whatever they want it to say.

[plucky prism]

at least it runs like it isnt laggy

[vapid orchid]

AOSP has no protections.

[plucky prism]

why did my phone company say its a real s24?

[vapid orchid]

Likely cloned IMEI.

[plucky prism]

straight talk even done the imie search a fake one wouldnt show up

[vapid orchid]

Point is, your phone ain't supported.

[plucky prism]

amd being rud could result in a lower star rating

[plucky prism]

rude*

[vapid orchid]

I just checked your IMEI, it's unknown.

[vapid orchid]

Rating for... what?

[copper bridge]

you might be able to check how much RAM your device really has if you can find a settings menu that shows its current memory usage... such as this here on mine:

but otherwise, you will have to just accept that your device just isn't supported because it is custom in some way 🤷
why it is the way it is, no one here can answer... take it to a phone repair shop if it is, they might be able to tell you for sure or even fix it 😟

[minor brook]

My guy. If that's your phone... you got scammed hard.

[vapid orchid]

Seriously.

[vapid orchid]

It's fake.

Likely a Chinese knockoff.

[copper bridge]

yeah, but we can only guess based on the limited information we have... a phone repair shop would have better chance of telling 🤷

[minor brook]

Best way to check is via ADB and pushing a BusyBox binary then using the command line to check. Since all of the other stuff can be faked.

Source: https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/242663/how-to-verify-if-device-is-reporting-fake-technical-specs-like-android-version

[vapid orchid]

I checked the IMEI, doesn't exist.

Provably why you have no service.

[minor brook]

I heard you shouldn't give out your IMEI number.

[vapid orchid]

It's in the screenshot.

That's one way to check for a fake phone.

[minor brook]

I know, I'm just saying.

[copper bridge]

sure, but i don't know how to do that, and i wouldn't advice a non-tech-savy person to do that... hence a repair shop can do it better 😅

[minor brook]

It's not too hard but yeah.

[plucky prism]

or it was custom and yeah i figured out

[minor brook]

You figured out that you were scammed or that it was customized?

It just looked really weird for Samsung cuz that's definitely not stock.