#kpop-chat
feral sun
brisk axle
Are they good
sand river
Its by twice
@wheat hornet yeah it was nice
wheat hornet
yEaH
sand river
didnt like the bsides much tho
feral sun
you mean twice rat?
wheat hornet
Twice is good
look even tho im a blink twice was the best girl group for a good while
brisk axle
Yes
timid sage
clearly he left on his own so thats on him
ik
sand river
wheat hornet
Yeah
feral sun
i thought it was good
sand river
im excited for mamamoo
feral sun
its city pop if you like that
brisk axle
I only kinda liked the chorus but idr the rest
feral topaz
its city pop if you like that
i like you
wheat hornet
Same
brisk axle
brisk axle
Twice bsides 
feral topaz
go hard was not it
tribal cosmos
stream blue hour instead
wheat hornet
Playing with fire vs lovesick girls
tribal cosmos
feral sun
the bsides on this are pretty good
brisk axle
Ok I’ll listen
wheat hornet
i like lovesick more bc i just do and the lines r more fair
sand river
blue hour was good, liked it more than dynamite
tribal cosmos
brisk axle
What’s blue hour
sand river
txt
tribal cosmos
txt track
wheat hornet
oh guys dont forget to stream hylt
brisk axle
I see
tribal cosmos
I will!
feral topaz
yessir i am streaming hylt as i am typing this message 
feral topaz
i have 2 phones running 3 browsers and 2 laptops running 3 browsers
wheat hornet
Niceee
gentle osprey
tribal cosmos
wawa 
split prairie
tribal cosmos
split prairie
whoing Boowhal and ikon
split prairie
this tweet again?
wheat hornet
Its the clownery for me
tribal cosmos
can we not post that here !
wheat hornet
o my bad :\
tribal cosmos
agile tartan
hello
tribal cosmos
you didn't miss anything shadow
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feral topaz
i will take your word for it selena
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Believe me when I say Loona is one of the most talented 4th gen groups
feral topaz
i believe you 
mild robin
they are
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I will just be confused when people say Loona isn't talented
when they literally got it all.
I love when they cover boy group songs like their dancing capabilities
I have never noticed one weak link in the choreo's
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stan loona for good grades
@feral topaz Periodt
All though I have 4 F's at the moment I must've not stanned hard enough
feral topaz
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OMG I HATE NAYEON SO FRICKING MUCH(not literally) I LOVE HER SO MUCH
She is becoming my bias
Like omg her outfit
feral topaz
We can spin that one in your favour
tribal cosmos
legs
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MY BIAS IS SANA THOUGH I AM CONFLICTED
feral topaz
Stan loona for bad grades because they are so good that you won't have time for grades
tribal cosmos
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Stan loona for bad grades because they are so good that you won't have time for grades
@feral topaz DONT SAY that LOL
STAN LOONA FOR CLEAR SKIN AND GOOD GRADES
feral topaz
We love clear skin
tribal cosmos
yes 4 Fs are amazing ❤
feral topaz
slow glacier
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yes 4 Fs are amazing ❤
@tribal cosmos Miss gurl you ain't have to do me like that, I can pretend those F's are A's
tribal cosmos
you aren't gonna get far in life w a mindset like that
trail lotus
dive podcast is nice
split prairie
I'm kind of surprised at her English, tbh. I guess she wasn't in Texas as long as I thought she was?
I thought her English was more native
candid widget
you aren't gonna get far in life w a mindset like that
@tribal cosmos Eh F's already here what I can do is focus on the present I retook one test today and I did well
split prairie
TIL Eric Nam has an official Grammy vote
swift aurora
hiii😗 ✌️
hardy echo
eyes wide open is a great album there are songs i don't like but the rest are SO GOOD
sacred belfry
No song is bad
split prairie
Did someone say they were?
split prairie
That person said they didn't like some songs. That doesn't mean they think those are bad songs
sacred belfry
Hell in Heaven is my SOTY
Assuming no group repeats, followed by Pretty Savage and Red Sun
split prairie
I'm actually not a fan of most Twice songs. Not my preferred subgenre of pop. Doesn't mean I think they're bad songs.
Assuming it counts for this year's voting, Psycho still SOTY for me
sacred belfry
Twice does girlpop better than blackpink so I come to blackpink for their hype/“savage”/black-side songs over their girlpop/pink-side ones
split prairie
And I doubt that means you think BPs pink side songs are bad, so probably best to not take offense when people say they don't like a specific song
sacred belfry
Idc about award shows really
maiden laurel
idk i feel like dynamite would win
sacred belfry
Would rather discuss and rank opinions with others in a public server
maiden laurel
but not cause many people liked the song but cause of bts's popularity
simple karma
half award shows will be dynamite. half will be anysong probably
depends which award show uses Gaon system
clever lintel
Lol if you think many people didn’t like the song you’re literally just wrong
maiden laurel
i saw so many armys saying they will stream the song even tho they dont like it
clever lintel
It has the most paks on korean charts ever
That’s not all fandom hate to break it to you
maiden laurel
i never said it was 🙂
split prairie
Usually when we talk about SOTY we talk about what we think the best songs were, because otherwise it's a short convo of "whatever BTS put out unless a cultural phenomenon happened." Primary example being Love Scenario
maiden laurel
exactly
clever lintel
they don’t even get it every year lol
simple karma
yet bwl has 300m+ digital index
only this year
that isn't just from armys
but from korean gp
clever lintel
It’s only when their songs are massive successes like bwl and dynamite that they win soty
maiden laurel
still, bts would win cause of their popularity
clever lintel
That isn’t how it works
simple karma
ppl rlly need to realize that the korean gp just likes bts. it's not just cuz of their huge fandom lol
maiden laurel
i know but im just saying the truth they win with whatever they put out thats just the dark truth
clever lintel
They don’t win with whatever they put out
maiden laurel
they do
split prairie
Was Dynamite a super fun catchy song that we enjoy? Absolutely. Would I put up any song as heavily autotuned (despite it being well done and not cringey) into the conversation of best song? Not really.
clever lintel
^
simple karma
so it's not whatever they put out
maiden laurel
in my opinion it is
simple karma
we are talking about stats here shabz. awards aren't based on opinions after all. if it was about opinion
Remember from Winner would've won soty for me
lol
clever lintel
it’s literally still #1 on melon more than two months later it’s not a huge fandom popularity thing
split prairie
But then my opinions on what a good song is has nothing to do with it's success, so it's a moot point anyway, when it comes to pop music, which, by definition, is measured by how popular it is
maiden laurel
yeah but bts have such high stats cause the fans go crazy with anything they'd put out
maiden laurel
it actually did
maiden laurel
they sold more than 5m copies with the album that had ON and black swan
so it was a succes
gentle osprey
maiden laurel
its still part of the album so i consider it a success
gentle osprey
Lol
maiden laurel
lol
gentle osprey
The album was a success as a whole but that does not mean it was because of ON
maiden laurel
but yknow im not gonna argue im just saying the fans are crazy af and yeah nothing or nobody is gonna change my opinion
clever lintel
Lol
maiden laurel
true
clever lintel
dynamite is a success and has a chance at soty based on sheer numbers
clever lintel
maiden laurel
i'd rather say bts are popular around the globe
gentle osprey
In Korea too 
maiden laurel
Korea is in the globe 
gentle osprey
maiden laurel
clever lintel
I mean yeah they are popular around the world but soty is for korean awards shows
Based on korean charts
maiden laurel
I just said they are popular around the globe, i did not ask 
clever lintel
clever lintel
goodbye
west haven
Bye
brisk elm
i agree selena 
tribal cosmos
i agree selena :ahyunjinnod2:
@brisk elm
simple karma
and no bp kek
winter python
indigo raptor
do i have a right to be mad at someone who said that we wont notice jin left bts ?
undone oar
Bruh every fan will notice except for the fake ones
clever lintel
yes 
undone oar
You have every right
clever lintel
7 or nothing 
indigo raptor
yessssss
indigo raptor
ooh @clever lintel i still dont get how jimin did that costume change from white shirt to ur pfp
clever lintel
yes it was a very cool outfit change
prime dune
imagine a song without a jin high note in it
clever lintel
trueee
winter python
jin doesnt enlist until next year anyways 
prime dune
JK best but we love them all 
winter python
rm best but we love them all 
clever lintel
prime dune
jk part of covid line
west haven
We do love them all 
indigo raptor
all of them are the best so we love them all
:)
feral topaz
imagine a song without a jin high note in it
@prime dune I'll take it tbh
icy echo
We want jin high note 
winter python
we just want more bts
feral topaz
icy echo
clever lintel
green jay
spiral basin
yikes...and people though BP's line distribution was bad
wheat raft
well it’s pretty hard with that many members and some are stronger vocalists than others
I feel like if producers are going naturally by who sounds best singing what, it’s bound to be super imbalanced unless they kinda force themselves to be conscious of distribution which usually they never do
hallow forge
Yeah obviously producers are gonna give the better vocalists more lines
tribal cosmos
nayeon is center
pretty sure they take that into consideration
jeongyeon probably the best vocalist in twice yet isn't main and hardly gets lines
winter python
feral topaz
this one looks extra bad but i think jeongyeon gets reasonable amount of lines generally, including bsides
and the top 3 in that list are widely accepted best vocalists in twice, and giving sub-vocalists as many lines as main ones makes little sense
they all have a role in the group and they do it
winter python
and mina is still getting over anxiety so her not getting as many lines also makes sense lol
split prairie
jeongyeon probably the best vocalist in twice
@tribal cosmos That's a weird way to spell Jihyo
winter python
very true shabz 
tribal cosmos
jihyo best vocalist for twice
she really suit the vocals for cute concepts and even the one they have now
but I'm firm on jeongyeon being best vocal
remote tangle
crisp violet
nicee
yikes...and people though BP's line distribution was bad
the vocalists get more lines
main dancer got the least
not too pressed
livid pendant
but this server started in pre-debut days
prime dune
yeah this server was made before debut
crisp violet
what was the date?
livid pendant
april-june i suppose
prime dune
june 1st
lunar pecan
livid pendant
its close to nct for me
crisp violet
😌
prime dune
livid pendant
they promote good grooming 
fierce rain
Maybe they all are
prime dune
man was hoping could be a good troll but ig not
crisp violet
Twitter
fierce rain
Bruh they included a shot of jihyo messing up
In the second verse
1:30 in the studio choom video
livid pendant
are there any kpop entertainment stan discord servers???
just a thought
if there is i- 💀
clever lintel
what does that even mean
winter python
None super big but ksi has servers for companies
crisp violet
clever lintel
pog best member
last kernel
All she needed was red eyes
trail lotus
1st member revealed of aespa
trail lotus
feral topaz
noble arch
green jay
They deleted Twice studio choom video. Couldn't they edit it without deleting it?
maiden laurel
ya
simple karma
then u hate the fandom
not the group?
nah not both. the group didn't do anything bad
now gtfo here with your toxic twitter mindset
ocean pollen
?
simple karma
every group works hard
last kernel
like Idk why some grps get popular... they did not work hard... anyways not gonna bring the hate to this lovely grp so yea
@ocean pollen bruh
everyone works hard
ocean pollen
...
green jay
With all due respect, gtfoh
simple karma
and there's no need of your stupid mindset here
green jay
You won't find it in HERE, so see your way out
ocean pollen
imma gonna delete it cause it seems kinda like its bad? to you guys/girls
green jay
IT IS BAD
halcyon moth
worthy cradle
ocean pollen
?
simple karma
gentle osprey
@ocean pollen no group hate
ocean pollen
@ocean pollen no group hate
@gentle osprey okay
gentle osprey
i can see deleted messages you know
ocean pollen
i can see deleted messages you know
@gentle osprey ik. you are a moderator
i am deleting for those who havent seen it
short vector
What company is aespa?
gentle osprey
Any hate towards a certain group is not welcome
simple karma
SM ent @short vector
ocean pollen
Any hate towards a certain group is not welcome
@gentle osprey Noted
next lynx
short vector
SM ent @short vector
@simple karma noice
half minnow
half minnow
Whoever was the producer on that CIX song is a fucking beast.
simple karma
indeed
frail folio
Hehe
simple karma
aespa
green jay
Is niziu not a Japanese group?
simple karma
yes
green jay
But this is kpop
green jay
Just because they are from a jyp produced show doesn't make them a kpop group
simple karma
it's a kpop group
crisp violet
what is kpop or jpop
simple karma
but promoting in japan
green jay
How?
simple karma
nah it's defintiely a jpop group
but I don't see the problem in commenting abotu it here
elfin inlet
even teddy doesnt know what kpop is
green jay
People here are really strict about what is commented here, so am just asking why a jpop group needs to be discussed here
In the documentary they clearly didn't show any jpop groups in the montage
crisp violet
even teddy doesnt know what kpop is
@elfin inlet
he does, he just said it’s music - from korea
thats it
elfin inlet
yeah i know
vestal patrol
Any hate towards a certain group is not welcome
@gentle osprey one of the main reasons why i love discord blackpink
elfin inlet
i was just joining in the conversation
green jay
@vestal patrol why are other discord groups different?
simple karma
i mean sky, niziu are trained in korea, produced by a kpop company and even the mv is shto in korea
crisp violet
chill xd
vestal patrol
idk 
@vestal patrol why are other discord groups different?
@green jay
green jay
But its still a jpop group
simple karma
i'm just telling u why we are sharing it here
same as every wayv cb
we do share it here and talk about it
crisp violet
i say nizius a kpop group
with jap members
green jay
Jyp is also planning to do a show for a Japanese boy group. Will they also be considered kpop?
simple karma
i mean niziu sounds like early twice to me
nothing screams jpop
but that's just me i guess
green jay
Then if thats the case Kaachi and oli london are all kpop
crisp violet
were they made by a kpop company?
gentle osprey
kpop is all about the language and how these groups are made
crisp violet
🤡
simple karma
i just told u the reasons for niziu
green jay
So let me get this straight, a group made up of all Japanese members, is a kpop group because they are from a Korean company?
livid pendant
its not cause they showcased japanese music just like wayv from sm
green jay
So if Kaachi moves to Korea and trains for like 2 years, they automatically become a kpop group?
worthy cradle
yes?
green jay
Oh ok. I get it now
livid pendant
technically yes
livid pendant
but if they trained it think they woudnt debut
green jay
But because they didn't train in Korea currently it totally disqualifies them
crisp violet
💀💀💀
green jay
@livid pendant why?
crisp violet
duhh
green jay
Some of them are talented
gentle osprey
lol
simple karma
sky i'm not saying they are kpop. i'm telling u why we are talkking about them that's all
gentle osprey
crisp violet
‘why cant a european group be allowed to be korean’
livid pendant
@livid pendant why?
@green jay maybe some of them can debut but just for me they wouldnt
green jay
I really don't have a problem, am just curious,
gentle osprey
kpop is all about the language, trainee experience, having experienced korean culture
ez
doesnt get more deep than that
elfin inlet
crisp violet
if the races defined the group, then blackpink should count as thai pop
as well as kpop
sonic cliff
Blackpink trained in korea
green jay
But there is only 1 thai, majority is korean
crisp violet
yeah, doesnt work like that
livid pendant
their music is mostly korean and they represent korea
gentle osprey
its not about nationality or ethnic background
crisp violet
i said, if the race of the group defined whether its kpop or not
simple karma
it's not deep at all... we are having discussions about thsoe group because they are tied to a kpop company. that's it
green jay
Lets end this convo, its not going anywhere
gentle osprey
agreed
simple karma
no shit sherlock
elfin inlet
chill
gentle osprey
sonic cliff
next lynx
worthy cradle
brisk axle
I’m gonna be the best white kboy
tribal cosmos
they're half white
crisp violet
still white :p
tribal cosmos
still korean heritage
gentle osprey
livid pendant
next lynx
west haven
I’m gonna be the best white kboy
@brisk axle
brisk axle
Sure will
crisp violet
lightstick when
green jay
So how is it possible that Aespa already has fans, and even more surprising they have haters. There is hardly any info about these girls.
glass charm
Because SM ggs don't miss
sonic cliff
brisk axle
Zimzalabim
green jay
Its not just SM though. Everytime a new group is about to debut, and the name is announced, its like automatic, fans accounts are created, chart accounts etc. I mean..
green jay
So what happens when they end up not liking the group?
crisp violet
and fx oops
then they dont stan
: )
but i highly doubt
the logo alone looks pretty badass
and sm is still a big3 company
people will stan automatically
green jay
I know someone who liked itzy as soon as they were announced without seeing the members, and then when the person realized they were less than 7 and the concept wasnt cute, they immediately became an anti.
crisp violet
theyre pretty much guaranteed to succeed
green jay
So they are company succes stans
gentle osprey
nothing wrong with being excited that a new group is going to debut. Especially from the big 3
if they dont end up liking them ig they just move on
crisp violet
people want the groups that follow their favs to succeed too thats all
simple karma
cuz ppl follow the potentional group members sky
crisp violet
^ stan the big groups before they make it big
gentle osprey
Yep. Some members are even famous before debut still
Jennie had fans before she debuted
simple karma
i follow purple kiss
gentle osprey
Yep Ryujin
simple karma
way before they even got announced
green jay
So that's my point, people support cuz they know they are bound to succed. Those are success stans. If it doesn't go that way, they turn to others who are
gentle osprey
I cant stay i stan PK but i am excited cause they are in the same company that mmm is in. and i generally like the company sound
Not success stans
just people who are excited that a new group is debuting
crisp violet
whats wrong with stanning cause a group could succeed
green jay
Not could, will
gentle osprey
At the end of the day you stay for the music and if you don't like it you move on
crisp violet
thats not predictable
green jay
To me, 90% of kpop has become about bragging about achievements, and disregarding those who are less successful. Its has become a "you can't sit with us" situation.
Of course people in here are not like that.
simple karma
that's twitter for u sadly
crisp violet
^
crisp violet
also, the entertainment industry in general is competitive
it’s always been like that
gentle osprey
thats just stan culture in general
crisp violet
yes what lemon said
worthy cradle
Itzy girls were in a show before
green jay
Not specific to kpop but especially with kpop.
crisp violet
if you missed the competition between between beyonce vs nicki stans
id say its as brutal
or cardi vs nicki
ig you mainly see kpop fights on your feed
simple karma
same.
west haven
I mean who cares lol
tribal cosmos
I stanned itzy before debut and they're now my second gg
gentle osprey
Point is its not unusual for people to be excited about a new group debuting. People will always make accounts in case said artist becomes mega successful and they end up loving them
simple karma
also for aespa, this gg has been known for years now. 3 of the trainees that will 95% be in the group are known online already
gentle osprey
Doesnt hurt anyone. Ergo idc 
green jay
True.
But also kpop stans have taken to attacking western artists.
I was on chartdata when Machine gun got #1 on BB200 , and underneath it there were kpop stans just saying how their groups did better
glass charm
So that's my point, people support cuz they know they are bound to succed. Those are success stans. If it doesn't go that way, they turn to others who are
@green jay SM has one of the highest budget among companies, it is more like how people follow any movie from marvel
simple karma
ehh. i don't agree with that
green jay
Really, i don't like every movie from Marvel
simple karma
it's down to taste
tribal cosmos
funny how sm also partnered w marvel
simple karma
same
tribal cosmos
glass charm
Well I like every SM group
gentle osprey
Ye but you'll be hyped if you usually like marvel movies
crisp violet
the big 3 are the top for a reason
they’re known for releasing top groups
like how Disney, Dreamworks and Marvel rule the west
crisp violet
ik
simple karma
i mean I like all the girls in purple kiss a lot. but if their concept and music is not for me, i won't stan them after all
crisp violet
but yk what i mean
worthy cradle
Yuki best
gentle osprey
i mean I like all the girls in purple kiss a lot. but if their concept and music is not for me, i won't stan them after all
@simple karma you love rbw sound too dont forget
so i know you'd be excited if you didnt know the girls either
simple karma
gentle osprey
even tho I know nothing abt yg new gg I'm already hyped and ready to stan
@tribal cosmos bp only
tribal cosmos
bp won't be active when new gg debuts
simple karma
tribal cosmos
green jay
I thought Purple kiss were supposed to debut awhile back?
gentle osprey
sel hates bp 
worthy cradle
Yep
tribal cosmos
hHAHAHAHA
brisk axle
gentle osprey
not funny
green jay
Only?
brisk axle
Please be nice to blackpink
livid pendant
except if they do a cute concept
@simple karma yg will never
green jay
I doubt anyone who hates BP will be in a discord meant for BP
tribal cosmos
I'm a bp anti obvs
brisk summit
we know xD
brisk axle
crisp violet
I doubt anyone who hates BP will be in a discord meant for BP
@green jay
youd be surprised
gentle osprey
indeed
brisk axle
Yeah wawa is here after all
gentle osprey
who
brisk axle
gentle osprey
ok rat
tribal cosmos
suaberry
glass charm
That's like 20% of the people that join 
gentle osprey
gentle osprey
gentle osprey
i think it was about you
simple karma
brisk axle
I like blackpink tho
tribal cosmos
brisk axle
I’ve never talked bad about them 
gentle osprey
hm hm
gentle osprey
feral topaz
Because SM ggs don't miss
@glass charm man of culture detected
glass charm
@glass charm man of culture detected
@feral topaz
livid pendant
am i the only one who saw an article that there is a male x male couple from a famous group??
i saw it like early 2018
but they will not reveal it since it would be very controversial
livid pendant
i can say dang it but i respect their relationship privacy
fierce rain
There was an actual bg that disbanded due to 2 ppl dating inside with each other
livid pendant
whoo? 
fierce rain
Forgot the name
feral topaz
i don't think two members were dating
one of them came out gay
and the group disbanded
livid pendant
whats the group name?
fierce rain
The group consisted Joomin, Donghwa, Youngwon, Yoobin, and Woohyun. K’POP debuted in September of 2001 with the single ‘0.5‘ and disbanded in 2004 due to an incident concerning a couple within the group and an assault towards one of the members from one of the others. Though the two specific members were never released, the situation was lost nearly completely as due to excuses as a cause to a majority of Korea’s population being conservative.
feral topaz
where did you copy that from
fierce rain
kprofiles
feral topaz
simple karma
green jay
winter python
simple karma
simple karma
Ye
last kernel
It was not serious :)
Their debut track is soooo good
I heard it
talent
BOY right?
The name?
peak fable
yes
feral topaz
Yoo jimin 
green jay
Thats her?
simple karma
Yes
prime dune
green jay
What's with the name change?
Ok too many Jimin's in kpop already
simple karma
That's their stage names probably
winter python
obv it's their stage names lol
whole heath
clever lintel
Twitter
winter python
feral topaz
tawny pumice
oh sorry...
good bye you loosed a blink you guys are not nice im gonna leave the group
feral topaz
Okay
simple karma
Bye
winter python
ok
winter python
we were just telling you to do that in a different channel lol
feral topaz
tawny pumice
very rude and i wasnt actully leaving imma go chat in bp
feral topaz
tawny pumice
I CAN IF I WANT
worthy viper
snow valve
tawny pumice
, my mom can see this..
simple karma
This person lmao
last kernel
@tawny pumice just don't :) there are channels for certain things
You can post as much as you want in #blackpink-media :)
tawny pumice
@last kernel just mind your own buisness there other pepole you can talk to:)
fierce rain
LOL
last kernel
It gets messy for others if not followed
Soooo
I don't want to get confused
for others
green jay
Surprised no one has posted this.
https://twitter.com/SOURCEMUSIC/status/1321104420868796417?s=20
simple karma
Shush agust. Mind your own business 
last kernel
Shush agust. Mind your own business
@simple karma
nurhan yeeted off
Be like: she's right 👀
I honestly didn't think she'd come out rude
I was kinda shocked with this reply🤣🤣
just mind your own buisness there other pepole you can talk to:)
But then I was like, ‘ok ok, this person is that kind on the internet'
🤣
Why am I laughing so much 😶
feral topaz
rough quartz
maiden laurel
tawny pumice
hello!!!
full hornet
feral topaz
What is going on man
tawny pumice
idk?
feral topaz
I was hoping you would because you're the one doing it
rough quartz
winter python
New btob 
feral topaz
new sm gg
winter python
Haerts birthday today 
dire patio
whole heath
crisp violet
nicee
maiden laurel
Outside of bts/bp do you guys consider kpop to be mainstream in the west? Like it being acceptable, common and such
rigid cosmos
If you exclude the two biggest groups then no lol
naive folio
i would argue against the first question, but argue for the second part of your question
rigid cosmos
That yes
maiden laurel
Maybe bts yea but overall no
last kernel
I mean I think Kpop become more popular in the US via Blackpink and BTS
But other groups have also made their mark
naive folio
western companies wish they could produce at such an insane rate and print money
but it's a lot more individual focused in the west
but i think sometimes it doesn't matter when you can dominate an entire half of the world, you don't really need the west for validation or money
rigid cosmos
Accepted yes, mainstream no
naive folio
it's not "mainstream" by traditional standards, but it is acceptable and common to follow/be into kpop
rigid cosmos
You get along with the wrong people then
naive folio
i was gonna say somethin like that
anyone that judges people for liking things are the worst kind of people
there's something for everyone, just let people like what they wanna like as long as they're not hurting anybody
rigid cosmos
People will always judge you for something, It's nothing special about kpop
jolly lintel
so does mine
naive folio
imagine thinking one of the biggest genres and media in the world is weird
WeirdChamp
jolly lintel
but i don't listen if its something u really like dont let other ppl reck that
maiden laurel
It’s not exactly big here
You lucky to have people accepting of you but not everyone is lucky
rigid cosmos
Well I'm sorry for you family but like I said, it's still generally accepted and a few outsiders won't change that
maiden laurel
I don’t think so
naive folio
i usually just tell people and they say "oh, i've heard of that" or "oh, that's cool"
some people even ask about the groups / industry
but yeah, sorry about your fam
maiden laurel
Good for you
rigid cosmos
Believe it or don't but numbers don't lie
maiden laurel
I just don’t think it’s accepted but we all have are opinions and experiences
I have mine
rigid cosmos
Kpop charting on #1 positions on charts for months should tell you enough
rigid cosmos
Where are you from if I may ask?
maiden laurel
US
naive folio
KPOP groups are better than any other western groups that have ever existed (excl. rock bands) IMO
rigid cosmos
Okay what
cloud crag
i only really like blackpink not really any other kpop group in my opinion
rigid cosmos
Are you
maiden laurel
I agree
maiden laurel
I feel your downplaying my experience because you don’t experience it 😐
cloud crag
idk bts is decent but i like blackpink most
next lynx
cloud crag
my opinion
naive folio
i'm a guy so i'm not into BGs really
but BTS is huge here, esp on the west coast/CA
maiden laurel
Yea I know bts is big
maiden laurel
They’re like the only group breaking records
rigid cosmos
kpop is big in the US
And the numbers show that
your experience is not the entire US experience
maiden laurel
besides bts I don’t see that
naive folio
BTS isn't the only group breaking records lol
maiden laurel
Kinda
maiden laurel
Billboard hot 100? No they didn’t
cloud crag
yuh
maiden laurel
@jolly lintel thank you for sharing that
naive folio
damn, sorry about y'all's families
jolly lintel
ofc
maiden laurel
Many kpop fans get judged for liking it. It’s not rare
rigid cosmos
It is.
maiden laurel
No it’s not
jolly lintel
no its not
rigid cosmos
And it's getting less and less
maiden laurel
Lol
jolly lintel
it is not rare at all
rigid cosmos
yall get along with the wrong people then
maiden laurel
It’s my family
rigid cosmos
because no people with brain judge for music taste
jolly lintel
im actually learning the dance to how u like that lol
maiden laurel
You’re insensitive
jolly lintel
oop
rigid cosmos
I said I'm sorry for your family but you gotta realize your family is not the entire US
maiden laurel
What numbers?
jolly lintel
not to side but i gotta agree with @maiden laurel
rigid cosmos
Performances in US shows
naive folio
this is a weird convo lol
i think it depends on the people and it depends on area of the US/West
rigid cosmos
idk what else you need to hear
jolly lintel
i agree
naive folio
BTS and BP are about as mainstream as it gets now and KPOP in the west is only getting bigger
maiden laurel
I think bts and bp will be the only ones and bp is definitely bigger in Asia
I got a headache I didn’t think people here would tell me my experience isn’t valid. I’m leaving
naive folio
i don't think anybody is saying your experience isn't valid, i think we're just saying there's a confirmation bias because your test group happens to be close to you
and that your test group isn't representative of the west as a whole
rigid cosmos
That is literally what I said yes
naive folio
your experience is valid and it sucks that you have people, esp family, that don't like kpop or judge you for it, but a majority of the money points toward it being popular and accepted in the west, esp given BTS' records and BP's recent album success in the west
jolly lintel
geez ppl how rude just because it isnt the whole west dosnt mean it doesnt happen my god
naive folio
i don't believe i ever said that
jolly lintel
im not talking to u
rigid cosmos
Stop twisting words
I didn't say it never happens
but it's generally accepted
And there will always be people judging you for anything, it's nothing special about kpop
jolly lintel
im leaving my GOD!
sonic cliff
rigid cosmos
ok bye
next lynx
@sonic cliff
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@sonic cliff
@next lynx
rigid cosmos
@next lynx
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sonic cliff
next lynx
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jolly lintel
yassss
trail lotus
they call me blackpink in your area 
jolly lintel
lol
sonic cliff
Y'all?
jolly lintel
how lol
sonic cliff
maiden laurel
Not you @jolly lintel
jolly lintel
oh thank u
maiden laurel
Just reading previous convo
jolly lintel
ohhh yea that
prime dune
No one was being mean tho 
maiden laurel
I get judged pretty harshly by my family too it’s not a rare occurrence, me being black I get extra judged for not listening to “black music” 🤷🏽♀️
prime dune
Not their fault someone is using their own personal experience to blanket statement the entirety of the US
