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maiden laurel
last kernel
And also they write more somgs
naive folio
i've only heard claims that they wrote solo and stay? is there anything to substantiate those?
crisp violet
yes lol
merely jennie saying so
wheat raft
i hope they write more too
crisp violet
in her jennie diaries
naive folio
i believe the girl that filmed their documentary said that the song process for them isn't exactly just teddy doing it anyway
wheat raft
praying teddy oppa helps the girls
naive folio
that it's more collaborative
fierce rain
I'm sure they write just see if it gets approved or not
naive folio
she mentioned that it's a back and forth and both teddy and the girls have to seal off on everything
fierce rain
And somi writes and composes too at least trying now
wheat raft
well I hope there are credits on future releases
meaning they do submit stuff that gets approved
crisp violet
^^
wheat raft
somi was credited on music and lyrics for wywf
hallow forge
^
last kernel
Lol
fierce rain
Instagram
hallow forge
2020 as a whole is just not positive lol
last kernel
True though :/
naive folio
2020 personally has been tough
fierce rain
Hanbin uploaded after over a year 
last kernel
2020 as a whole is just not positive lol
@hallow forge no tell
naive folio
truer facts were not spoken
wheat raft
kpop made 2020 better
last kernel
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGpqa-jATKt/?igshid=bey0iwf7dypx
@fierce rain looks like the area flooded
Instagram
hallow forge
Iām seriously gonna celebrate the fuck out of New Years 2021
last kernel
Or smth
wheat raft
i mean i became a fan in 2020 so
last kernel
Iām seriously gonna celebrate the fuck out of New Years 2021
@hallow forge š
i mean i became a fan in 2020 so
@wheat raft noice
naive folio
yeah i also became fan this year
last kernel
It's about to be one year of me being a kpop stan
wheat raft
i hope 2021 is better
naive folio
KPOP/BP are my solace in 2020
last kernel
Weehee
hallow forge
Kpopās kept me sane though this year
crisp violet
hope that the footage of rosie creating a chord progression in the documentary for her solo means shell be involved in her debut
wheat raft
i know everything wonāt be completely back to normal still but
last kernel
More like BP/BTS stan
cedar bay
wheat raft
hope that the footage of rosie creating a chord progression in the documentary for her solo means shell be involved in her debut
@crisp violet I hope so too.
hallow forge
I mean it canāt get any worse at this point next year
last kernel
hope that the footage of rosie creating a chord progression in the documentary for her solo means shell be involved in her debut
@crisp violet I rlly hope that
naive folio
nah nah nah
last kernel
It kinda could
naive folio
positivity
hallow forge
Iāll just try being positive lmao
crisp violet
they could die, do drugs...
naive folio
or at least, in terms of it getting worse
i hope not
hallow forge
Iāve had enough negativity since quarantine lol
crisp violet
pregnant....
last kernel
they could die, do drugs...
@crisp violet wha-
hallow forge
Isnāt that any year?
last kernel
@crisp violet whatš
crisp violet
I mean it canāt get any worse at this point next year
@hallow forge ^ context
last kernel
crisp violet
Iāve had enough negativity since quarantine lol
u not the only one in quarantine xd
simple karma
last kernel
mild robin
didnt she name her baby some kind of alien name
hallow forge
Why do that to your child omg
naive folio
yeah that child is for sure getting bullied
hallow forge
How do you even pronounce that??
naive folio
supposedly
cedar bay
she is a bit weird but her music is top notch 
naive folio
"Kyle"
hallow forge
Her musicās great
naive folio
all the people co-opting You Never Know for Irene lmao
as long as it spreads the BP song
hallow forge
They better give the promo lmao
crisp violet
i mean *cough
short otter
Free promo 
wheat raft
lmaooo i donāt mind the free promo
you never know is def relatable as hell especially in that super judgmental kpop bubble
naive folio
it's basically the song for kpop industry in general
i'm really glad the pinks got to do it tho
wheat raft
same
maiden laurel
Have y'all heard about the recent controversy with Irene? I feel so bad for her :(((
mental estuary
I donāt
maiden laurel
What why um
crisp violet
discussed it here hour ago ish
mental estuary
I hate her
mental estuary
She is raicist
maiden laurel
How? š¤”
crisp violet
o.o how this relates to the drama
simple karma
crisp violet
š¤
simple karma
stop spreading false information
crisp violet
^
maiden laurel
broken marten
Wtf chile
@maiden laurel stahp with the 'chile'
maiden laurel
I haven't heard anything about her being racist whatsoever
Just the whole attitude thing
mental estuary
o.o how this relates to the drama
@crisp violet I just saw in YouTube
maiden laurel
@maiden laurel stahp with the 'chile'
@broken marten chile
crisp violet
cause youtube
broken marten
Hmm YouTube
maiden laurel
YouTube š
broken marten
Very reliable source
crisp violet
decides what is good and bad
simple karma
youtube best source
maiden laurel
ah yes
crisp violet
very reliable
fickle ermine
naive folio
Irene is racist.... wtf?
simple karma
no lol
naive folio
if anything, if anyone is RV is racist, we all know who it is
no that's my reaction to someone calling irene racist lol
crisp violet
allkpop feeding irenes new villainized image
naive folio
also like most koreans/most of korea is pretty xenophobic
crisp violet
already counted 5 articles dedicated to her other sins
trail lotus
that's how the ball gets rolling
crisp violet
*āsinsā
naive folio
they're not racist but they're xenophobic af
trail lotus
whereas soompi keeps it professional
naive folio
apparently people stop growing at 30 years old
trail lotus
best source of news is that place
naive folio
the internet has decided
trail lotus
they aren't biased either
naive folio
and she ain't even 30 yet
crisp violet
i see why yall dont like akp 
winter python
akp literally the worst website ever to look at for kpop news
naive folio
kboo ain't much better
dire junco
Irene has been 30 all year in Korean age.
naive folio
does korean age count the year before you turn 1? i'm guessing?
yeah i wasn't trying to spread that she was racist
naive folio
i was just reacting "wtf" to someone that said she was
naive folio
they said "korean age" tho
lost wigeon
Yeah itās ballooning into a big issue right now in Korea. Iād be interested in seeing more verified info
Itās clear tho that we just donāt know idols as well as we all think we do unfortunately
maiden laurel
Yeah too many people who work in the industry are coming out with their stories
Participating in cancel culture
Like wtf dude
naive folio
is that confirmed tho
because i've literally only seen the one stylist
and other people "liking" the post
maiden laurel
We don't know what's exactly confirmed
But we do know that she did have an outburst at a stylist
lost wigeon
A few have been confirmed. A few have been deduped
naive folio
no, yeah, i know
lost wigeon
I think the one verified account is enough for her to reflect though
naive folio
i just meant, there's people spreading that "there's multiple people coming out about her" when we've only seen the one post confirmed due to irene's own post
and i haven't seen that
lost wigeon
There was a mv producer that was confirmed and another stylist
naive folio
also, i don't believe any of the RV members are racist
lost wigeon
All the other publisher stylists liking the comment have been dedeupped
lost wigeon
A pretty ignorant scandal but yeah it was a while and from joys own mouth Iāve heard Wendy is a selfless sweetheart
naive folio
yeah
lost wigeon
Sorry dedupped is a fake word haha. I meant confirmed to be fake
naive folio
lots of people have been there, i personally didn't think it was that big of a deal
lost wigeon
Who Wendy or Irene?
lost wigeon
Ah I mean Iām not black so itās not my place to say
naive folio
i think it was ignorant and kinda dumb, but yeah, also not my place to say
asians are weirdly anti-black
NOT SAYING WENDY IS
lost wigeon
OH for sure.
naive folio
just that the culture is
maiden laurel
lost wigeon
Yeah itās a big problem
Saying this as an asian American btw haha
I expect it from older people but am disappointed when I see younger people participate. Not Kpop related. More like asian f boys saying the n word.
hard galleon
Its not tat, we're just ignorant(i am, we hv little experience unless we meet other ppl-yes some r but not all, also wendy is from canada: so its complicated? Tldr its complicated
naive folio
DUDE
hard galleon
As a 100% asian in asia
lost wigeon
But yeah Iāve been following the Irene stuff on reddit. I wish there was a more credible news source
naive folio
asians an esp filipinos saying the N word is so weird to me
hard galleon
Im not filipino so idk
lost wigeon
Honestly I went to school in ny and some Asians grew up with it. But still wouldnāt say it in front of black people. Just other Asians. But then itās like ok. So you know itās wrong.
naive folio
^ exactly
hard galleon
But tats older gen right, i think it was same/similar, if you read abt la 90s riots n watch do the right thing movie
lost wigeon
Noooo
naive folio
i think, @hard galleon , i didn't mean to say all asians or even asians in Asia are anti-black, more that i experience it here in America with asians being anti-black
lost wigeon
Well idk how young you are buts itās common with college students
naive folio
i know for a lot of Asians and esp in SK, it's about exposure and them not really knowing
hard galleon
Ik but u dint mention context yet
naive folio
you know
the unfortunate thing
is i literally just bought a custom mask based on an Irene logo
naive folio
yeah, that's true oops
hard galleon
Almost all Asia has no exposure unless u travel/incoming tourists, see Sam okyere
lost wigeon
Weāre both talking about the asian American experience
hard galleon
Which bg
naive folio
uh,. his name is Youngtaek from Golcha Golden Child
hard galleon
From my post at 3:32 to urs at 3:33, i could read it as a guy from a BG broke the guy from my post's leg LMAO
naive folio
he just stepped off a bus wrong and i'm pretty sure he broke his ankle
oh LOL
the timing on that haha
hard galleon
Dark humor, im stressed out from current days news
naive folio
who isn't?
it's something every day this year š¦
lost wigeon
Dawww
hard galleon
I rlly love(d?) Irene just recently from Monsyer/naughty/lvl up thrilling proj, so messed up my mind now-spinning in 1million directions
naive folio
this is my opinion and hopefully it helps:
Irene is human. And she's not irredeemable. She can, and most likely will, move past this
hard galleon
I wish i could relax n just go to bp channel n enjoy the cb but its tough rn
naive folio
the fact that she met the stylist in person says a lot, most people can't meet their accusers like that, esp for something this damning.
does she need to fix her attitude and behavior? yes. but it's also entirely doable
is it worth canceling her? probably not. is it worth being critical of her? yes.
but she's had 5/6 years in the industry and there's plenty of good to go with her bad, just like any person
simple karma
Irene 
hard galleon
Im more , rn, cant process it all-on hold cos need more info/data cos past few mths shows to not jump to conclusions one days info, so its hard to come to conclusion yet.
hardy reef
who has hyuna gifs if so dm me pls
naive folio
most scandal they've had is "lazy jennie" lol
hard galleon
Best just to say no comment on tat, since it blew over already
naive folio
yeah
lost wigeon
I donāt follow red velvet but Seulgi and joy were always my favorite. I imagine if this was one of them Iād be pretty bummed
naive folio
Irene's my fav on RV so it's not great but i'm also not blindly defending her
tacit robin
split prairie
B.I. posted again <3
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGpqa-jATKt/
Instagram
and can someone eli5 what happened with Irene?
steady stream
her stylist wanted irene to apologize for what she did to her
steady stream
dont take everything seriously because they may exaggerate the situation but read the post that koreaboo did about irene and this stylist
split prairie
didn't see it linked. don't care enough to look 
feral sun
apparently she was toxic towards her stylist
split prairie
:eyeroll:
naive folio
no no
read soompi article
koreaboo is doing their best to drag her, same with allkpop
steady stream
oh i just thought u wouldn't click anyway
naive folio
AFAIK, it wasn't specifically her stylist? it was a stylist she worked with on a specific project
split prairie
not a kboo or akp link i wouldn't. lol. screw both of those sites
split prairie
if i knew about every time someone who worked with an idol got their feelings hurt, I'd have no more room in my brain for anything else
naive folio
LOOOOOOL
there's a lot of rumours flying around
and no concrete evidence for any of them
split prairie
let me guess. probably on a 36 hour plus day with little sleep and she lashed out at a stylist and now they're doing damage control
naive folio
but basically, Irene was accused of berating a stylist for 20 mins when alone with them that it caused them to cry
the stylist then posted on insta and hinted toward an RV member
other supposed industry folk, like SM employees/dancers/stylists and other people who worked with Irene "liked" the post and other people ran with that as being proof she wronged them too
the only person to come out right and say anything was the stylist
steady stream
right they only make it a big thing because she's popular so it bring her down
naive folio
irene posts an apology on insta and confirms it was her, SM posts an apology/statement and says that irene met with the stylist in question
steady stream
but only in korea ofc because we dont think its a big deal
split prairie
probably mistook her daegu accent for yelling xD
naive folio
there are "claims" she was like this with other stylists and SM staff but i have yet to see this substantiated
Irene is known to say things that come out differently in a way she doesn't intend
steady stream
she just honestly doesn't care and that's why i lover her
naive folio
but also, a few other stylists and SM staff have come out in support of her saying they don't ever really see what the person was talking about
the only facts are the stylist post, irene's post response/apology and SM's post
steady stream
ofc yes they dont its only for money and attention
naive folio
i doubt it will get any bigger than that
supposedly staff from the movie said she was rude too, but again, these aren't substantiated because some of the "twitter" or "insider sources" aren't verified
steady stream
i doubt irene did anything to be honest its just that koreans make a big deal out of literally anything so they need to apologize as soon as it get attention by them
naive folio
i think if she's apologizing in person, it's at least more than nothing
and even though i am an irene fan, it's still okay to be critical because the stylist did mention she's had a reputation of being "rude" with staff
but i also don't think it's worth losing her career nor should it affect RV as whole
steady stream
right lets just wait for everything to get clear
naive folio
yeah
there are people saying her apology and statement was to save face and people are just so conditioned to not believe people can change
sucks
i think in the very least, she hurt somebody, even if she didn't intend to, and should just have to work her way through that
but she's not irredeemable
steady stream
im honestly lost like idk if i should believe anything at this point this could just all be a setup or maybe just that irene was really like this before idk im just waiting
naive folio
i think it's likely that even if irene is sometimes like this, she more than likely isn't like this all the time
wheat raft
since when did enews report on kpop maybe besides bts or bp https://twitter.com/enews/status/1319387600235515904?s=21
naive folio
this is blowing up larger than it needs to
split prairie
wtf? flagship E! is picking this up?
naive folio
tbf, e got their start basically doing the same stuff about american celebs
split prairie
yea but i feel like this should be beneath their radar rn
wheat raft
i mean yeah but suddenly care for red velvet bc itās a negative news story lmao
split prairie
unless its strictly a stan interaction move
naive folio
i've been seeing claims recently that she was in an uncomfortable outfit and was being shocked by her earpiece??
steady stream
that's actually because of everything
wheat raft
like these days thatās what gets clicks anyways
steady stream
everyone*
naive folio
where did people drag that info from lol
wheat raft
no one likes a good heart felt happy story lol
the stuff that circulates is the dramatic stuff
naive folio
this happened after a performance???
i thought this happened at like a photoshoot or something lol
wheat raft
i feel like itās blowing up way bigger than necessary?
naive folio
absolutely
wheat raft
I mean I probably think that because Iām American and we have far too many major divas and assholes in this industry and itās just accepted. If anything, calling them out hurts the person doing the calling out and not the celebrity themselves.
In Korea itās more culturally unacceptable to be disrespectful or rude to anyone especially someone that works for you
wheat raft
yeah well that too
Idols are generally kind and rule abiding people
or at least they have to be seen that way
naive folio
there's just so much info and only like 3 pieces of concrete facts that, in and of themselves, aren't any admission of guilt outside the specific incident
irene's daegu accent also gets mistaken for rudeness too
wheat raft
iām just surprised an american outlet picked it up and even bothered writing a whole article
naive folio
probably scraping at stories to get what clicks they can
wheat raft
we hardly know anything and they rehashed the couple pieces of info we had again
steady stream
i mean irene is part of a big girl group
naive folio
i don't know anybody who even listens to or watches e!news
wheat raft
slow news day probably
and something dramatic like this sounds like it would get hits
split prairie
they probably realized that kpop drama is easy clicks
wheat raft
everyone loves a good diva behavior story
naive folio
you know, even though this sounds a little insenstive, i'd let irene yell at me
steady stream
in general blackpink twice and red velvet are more popular than any other gg and they alway seem perfect so that's just surprising for them
naive folio
people are dragging jennie and nayeon and yeri in to this
as if the same people weren't saying OT4 NO YERI, JENNIE IS LAZY
steady stream
as expected
split prairie
people on a high horse doing the very thing they're upset at the idol for doing
thorn crypt
naive folio
the whole nurse thing, forgive my language, so fucking stupid
steady stream
but when its a american celebrity who get the same scandal as irene it's suddenly sexc powerful and everything else
split prairie
maeng should come out on sns defending jennie xD
steady stream
hypocrisy as it finest and everywhere same for jennie when a boy wear a doctor outfit or even a cops one they like it and dont say shit about it
naive folio
yeah the people saying former employees and stylists came out against her are simply not true
kboo lists them as "insider sources" which is not tangible evidance
kboo is actual trash
even the kpop subreddit was super quick to turn on irene
steady stream
kboo was alway trash but sadly no one can bring them down
wheat raft
iām laughing cuz people replying to enews like who is she? sheās beautiful
steady stream
as they should
wheat raft
in the US, this stuff gains you fans
naive folio
the "i'd let her yell at me wow" comment is so good
naive folio
honestly? if SM pushed RV internationally, this wouldn't be that big of an issue, esp in the western market
naive folio
if we're being honest, all the kpop companies are shit
steady stream
thats good that her popularity got bigger in international but in korea its getting lower
she must be sad about that
naive folio
i think knetz are not a good representation of the GP for SK
knetz jump on any hate wagon
maiden laurel
But they have power mostly
steady stream
right
im still shook about the amout of koreans who trew away as fast as they knew about the scandal everything that they have related to her especially those photocards
maiden laurel
Like those religious freaks in SK. They donāt represent the countryās views but they have a lot of power sadly
knetz are similar
split prairie
Let's take this opportunity to gush over Irene's daegu accent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-bQxHuUy2Q&t=204s
maiden laurel
rough quartz
a what accent 
steady stream
a hot accent go check
naive folio
there's primarily five different regions of south korea and all have specific dialects of Korean
the standard you hear in Korean across entertainment is called the Seoul dialect or the Gyeonggi dialect (you can often see Satoori used in place of dialect, like for Irene it's her Daegu Satoori)
There's also the Chungcheong, Gangwon, Jeolla and Gyeongsan dialect
Seoul dialect is similar to RP in the UK/England, as it's the standard form of the language dialect that's taught and used in popular media to have a standard dialect
steady stream
ur so intelligent its actually insane holy shit
naive folio
There's also the Jeju dialect but they're on an island so that's a given, and for the most part, Koreans will understand the other dialects
AFAIK
nah, melissa, it's only because i've looked into it before specifically because of Irene
maiden laurel
Loving kpop has made me very interested in korean culture in general, this is very interesting
odd tapir
it's the same with the american accent in movies and tv shows
steady stream
nah, melissa, it's only because i've looked into it before specifically because of Irene
@naive folio ig im just dumb then lmao
naive folio
nah, not dumb
no one would expect you to know about korean dialects lol
The big thing about the Gyeongsang dialect and its subsidiaries like Busan/Daegu, is that their dialect often drops some vowels and pronounces the ends of words differently.
Another thing is that Korean/Seoul dialect is mostly meant to be spoken monotone with no variations, and the Gyeongsang dialect is known to be very up and down and aggressive. So someone hearing it might think they're yelling at each other when that's just how the dialect is
which is a big thing for idols from busan or daegu, like irene, because if people aren't exposed to the dialect, the speakers might come off as rude unintentionally
feral topaz
Nobody letting it go and then also saying that it's blowing up bigger than it should
Is it only twitter that likes to gossip
naive folio
it's only been brought up in this channel several times because people are just learning about it and asking about what happened
at separate intervals
it's also just the day of it happening, give it time and it will blow over and knetz will find a new scandal to rage about
clever lintel
wheat raft
saw that coming
it's interesting to see how fans on different platforms act
also international fans vs korean fans
winter python
inetz and knetz are almost always on opposing sides 
naive folio
probably just gonna have a mini hiatus and then comeback
wheat raft
yeah let it die down first
winter python
bruh they been on hiatus for nearly a year at this point
prime dune
Canāt help Wendyās face got broke
steady stream
wtf
wheat raft
the wendy incident was devastating
winter python
naive folio
face, wrist and hip š¦
wheat raft
iām happy to see wendy back slowly but surely
steady stream
words that hurts
naive folio
yeah the timing is OOF
green jay
naive folio
ah so they did change the joycord to the RV cord lol
does anyone know if, in the big bang scandal, the member that got canceled was actually a part of the sex ring or was he just related to ti?
lofty turret
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tulip ivy
What happened with irene
winter python
long story
hallow forge
It's such a long story
long story short, a well known stylist posted on IG about a rampage Irene had towards her for 20 minutes
naive folio
it might take more time but feel free to scroll up and there's been a lot of discussion and recap
hallow forge
some other staff that previously worked with her before liked the post too
naive folio
"but basically, Irene was accused of berating a stylist for 20 mins when alone with them that it caused them to cry
the stylist then posted on insta and hinted toward an RV member
other supposed industry folk, like SM employees/dancers/stylists and other people who worked with Irene "liked" the post and other people ran with that as being proof she wronged them too
the only person to come out right and say anything was the stylist"
quoting myself here
"irene posts an apology on insta and confirms it was her, SM posts an apology/statement and says that irene met with the stylist in question"
tulip ivy
Ok
naive folio
"but also, a few other stylists and SM staff have come out in support of her saying they don't ever really see what the person was talking about
the only facts are the stylist post, irene's post response/apology and SM's post"
clever lintel
whole heath
neon brook
Helloooo
crisp violet
hai
vestal lantern
Hi
lost wigeon
A well known stylist in China just came out with her own comment on Irene as well translated from weibo. https://mobile.twitter.com/centnews1
Twitter
To me Irenes career is up in the air. But the other girls will be fine. They didnāt do anything wrong
wheat raft
itās early to say but yeah aside from twitter stans, a lot of people are not taking this well and have dropped her in their minds already
hallow forge
pretty sure the other girls will be fine
But yeah, Irene's rep in Korea's pretty bad right now
wheat raft
hopefully nothing else comes out after today bc then for sure it would be over
if nothing else comes out, maybe they can repair her reputation but it would take a long time and the groups is supposed to have a comeback
will they renew their contract? lots of questions
naive folio
same
i think they just lay low for a bit and see if they can repair the damage
in terms of renewal, i'm just gonna go on a limb and say that's probably off the table
either RV renews w/o Irene or they just disband altogether
i haven't completely dropped her because i just wanna see where it goes / if irene is able to redeem herself
and it doesn't much retract from me liking the group as a whole either
thankfully RV and Irene weren't my ults
wheat raft
these kinda of things take time to mend...we just donāt know enough information but to wait it out and see how itās handled
i think iād be devastated if they were my ult
naive folio
she was my fav in RV so it still kinda sucks
but i got BP and Chaesoo
yeah i think given time, it will get better for them and for irene, maybe even she gets sent to something like the JYP personality school lol
clever lintel
wheat raft
lmaooo
dire junco
I'm just happy the biggest BP controversy this year was Jennie wearing heels while in a nurses uniform. That was easy to overcome.
maiden laurel
Irene's earpiece had problems and she was electrocuted several times because of that
clever lintel
crisp violet
.-. wat
clever lintel
??
naive folio
Jimin's case is significantly worse though, she brought someone to the point of self-harm
fair topaz
?
simple karma
This is not the same as that person from AOA at all wtf
crisp violet
both leaders of their group
fair topaz
oh
naive folio
@maiden laurel
this is being brought up a lot, but i'm not certain how true that is
i believe these are two separate incidents
maiden laurel
We can't really come into conclusions whn we aren't sure of what exactly happened
naive folio
Both were accused of bullying yes, but Irene has been said to treat staff/stylists poorly
while Jimin was specifically targeting a member
i doubt irene is this way with any RV members
that's also true, i've mentioned this before, there's only 3 (now 4) pieces of concrete evidence
anything beyond that is speculation at best
crisp violet
Irene's earpiece had problems and she was electrocuted several times because of that
@maiden laurel
that was joy not irene .-.
i see - didnt know irene had it too
but this is unrelated to this incident lol
simple karma
It's almost like 90% of the rumors on twt are bs
naive folio
simple karma
Twice is on Monday
rough quartz
ok thx
naive folio
twice is on the 26th, yeah
i think this is a multifaceted situation, much like people and irene herself
crisp violet
well ofc
naive folio
if SM wants to hedge their bets, they put her in personality school and gather positive statements from other staff
crisp violet
wtf is personality school lmao
wheat raft
lmao
naive folio
the JYP special
naive folio
i've had family members and friends that have been in worse attitudes that were older and were able to correct themselves
i don't think anybody is beyond saving
wheat raft
yeah sheās literally turning 30 American age next quarter....if this is not a 100% isolated incident...she most likely isnāt changing this year or the next
i mean maybe she will for the sake of the group
but idk about lifelong lol
feral topaz
absolutely right. people do not change. like how people love theory crafting without knowing facts.
wheat raft
Iām not counting anything out. I just hope if this is a thing thatās happened before that she does change for the sake of the group. They deserve that at least.
wheat raft
wth is personality school
naive folio
i was mostly memeing
crisp violet
something kpop companies do to make them ālikeableā to the camera
wheat raft
I do not want the end of RV to be tainted by scandal
naive folio
there is legit no way this is the end of RV
crisp violet
dont want rv to go down from this either
naive folio
same
feral sun
they wont
crisp violet
im saying itās possible
feral sun
it'll pass over in a few weeks
icy echo
how can you be sure 
naive folio
^
crisp violet
dk bout that
naive folio
because this is hardly the worst kpop scandal and people are quick to forget, esp in the 2020 news cycle
crisp violet
shell deal woth this the rest of her life
wheat raft
i mean idk when their contract ends but they need a break again even though they just did for a year
crisp violet
*with
feral topaz
you tried peyton 
feral sun
wheat raft
it is true that news in 2020 is extra amplified and nasty due to there not really by anything else happening
icy echo
Isn't sm debuting a new gg this year? Is this the end for red velvet
wheat raft
if they were intending on a comeback end of this year, maybe they have to rethink postponing another 2 months
icy echo
We are in the second half
clever lintel
I mean
icy echo
what
wheat raft
I canāt imagine theyāll renew...
clever lintel
same tbh
worthy viper
clever lintel
at least some I dont think will
feral sun
they are signed through next year
wheat raft
it wonāt be ot5 RV
icy echo
@worthy viper 
clever lintel
irene was the least likely in my opinion because of all the other stuff she does besides music
feral sun
wouldnt surprise me if wendy goes to na eventually
crisp violet
mostly irene of all of them
feral sun
naive folio
her other stuff outside music is probably a big OOF now
feral sun
nah
clever lintel
ye idk about now but that was my thought
crisp violet
dk i saw irene starting an acting / mc / tvshow career
feral sun
they said the movie she is in isnt being postponed or anything
crisp violet
and occasional solos
clever lintel
I mean yeah but you do not know yet what the majority of korean gps reaction is to this
icy echo
Not red velvet 
naive folio
i know knets reaction is bad
clever lintel
probs will be apparent the next time she has a schedule
naive folio
but yeah, don't know about korean gps
feral sun
i mean again it will blow over
crisp violet
_ rip my blackvelvet dreams _
wheat raft
_
rip my blackvelvet dreams_
@crisp violet literally same
wheat raft
irene why did you have to murder my dream
crisp violet
irene is my bias too :ā )
wheat raft
lmaooo
last kernel
@wheat raft omo how long were you online for
wheat raft
iām kidding @feral topaz
naive folio
avery, same
last kernel
š
icy echo
forget about blackvelvet, red velvet might not be a thing anymore 
last kernel
I saw you before going to sleep, I am in school nowš
wheat raft
her voice is butter
crisp violet
i dont give rv permission to disband
without collabbing with bp
naive folio
thankfully we have the pinks LOL
wheat raft
I saw you before going to sleep, I am in school nowš
@last kernel iām always in and out of here
crisp violet
last kernel
Lol
naive folio
who's only scandal this year is the nurse stuff
naive folio
that wasn't even a scandal lol
wheat raft
cuz they really didnāt do anything wrong lol
spiral basin
feral topaz
hope the collab never happens 
crisp violet
wheat raft
it was more of a āwhoops sorry you felt offendedā
sage oyster
Me too 
wheat raft
forget it just give me a wendy solo
wheat raft
that girls voice š
wheat raft
she has one of the most pleasant to the ear tones ever
naive folio
irene was a close bias wrecker, but i guess that's not happening anymore lol
OT4 and chaesoo forever
wheat raft
for sure
feral topaz
when did this channel become twitter 
wheat raft
her collab with john legend!!
sage oyster
Aitai-tai probably my fav underrated song
crisp violet
twitter is salty af wdym
wheat raft
wendy sing me to sleep and be my morning wake up greeting
crisp violet
john legend yesss
feral sun
wendy to na 
crisp violet
i overplayed that all month when it released
worthy viper
wendy solo when
worthy viper
uhh
crisp violet
shes had collabs
worthy viper
she has osts
crisp violet
and cocers
wheat raft
yeah sheās had collabs and osts
crisp violet
*covers
feral sun
ye
crisp violet
osts ye
wheat raft
so thereās plenty of stuff out there but just not a proper solo
sheās had opportunities to sing outside the group is all
crisp violet
a ākindofā solo
worthy viper
I mean even yeri had only station releases
feral topaz
wheat raft
please
crisp violet
tiffany šš„°
sage oyster
She had a ft with Ricky Martin 
feral sun
good song
wheat raft
wendy can sing such variety
crisp violet
id support wendys solo 100% 
naive folio
wendy voice is too good
wheat raft
id support wendys solo 100%
@crisp violet ditto
limber dome
when did this channel become twitter :WEIRD:
@feral topaz its been like this for a while
limber dome
wendy solo would be so good
maiden laurel
Facts
limber dome
brisk axle
i like irene even more now
icy echo
irene solo 
naive folio
4Head
icy echo
Will this scandal make blackpink not want to collab with red velvet anymore?
simple karma
brisk axle
tldr
icy echo
naive folio
their current MUA is coming out in support and saying she'll always be by her side and that she is "warmer than anybody else. i believe in you"
naive folio
LOLWUT
brisk axle
simple karma
Sadly these post don't help. Ppl will believe what they want to believe.
naive folio
i think everything, support or not, should be taken with a grain of salt
naive folio
and just added to the bag that irene, like anybody else, is a multilayered multifaceted person and shows different sides to different people
naive folio
lmao fr
icy echo
If she wanted to be a human with emotions she shouldn't have become a kpop idol 
limber dome
when i met irene she was mean to me 
prime dune
can irene be mean to me 
feral sun
TRUE
crisp violet
idols extra wary of their stylists now
crisp violet
uwu
feral topaz
nwn
feral topaz
Apparently people can't get on with their lives without passing a judgement on Irene
proper cosmos
jesos finally my skz album is arriving
last kernel
Not with Irene
crisp violet
only cause we found out rv pulled out of a fest
last kernel
Imagine a member of BP in this situation
crisp violet
earlier today
last kernel
Their career would end
feral topaz
Not really
last kernel
I'm mad about that
Not really
@feral topaz i'm saying, not that it would actually happenš
That'd be stupid :/
feral topaz
People get kicked out of their group when found tobe dating. Nothing happened to Jennie.
People really like to paint a different picture than it is with bp
crisp violet
not really
rvās kinda as big as bp in korea
peak fable
Rv nugus whatās new
peak fable
No one did itās okay lol
crisp violet
i speak my mind all the time
crisp violet
prolly offended half the server
peak fable
If something similar happened to a bp member the same people shitting on Irene rn would flip
peak fable
Did they
feral topaz
That's what I am telling you. Because you maybe closely follow only bp you think bp have it really bad
Other groups have it much worse for much less
last kernel
I respect the five girls, I dunno anything about them so rather talk about someone I do know about
That's what I am telling you. Because you maybe closely follow only bp you think bp have it really bad
@feral topaz I don't. All idols face hate
No one has it less, or more
lean yacht
last kernel
I'm taking about recent times
peak fable
No one has it less, or more
@last kernel a lot of them get a lot more hate
last kernel
Gradually the hate will go back to ānormal level'
peak fable
Which is uncalled more
feral topaz
An idol killed herself last year because of online hate
peak fable
For*
feral topaz
Is that recent enough?
peak fable
An idol killed herself last year because of online hate
^
lean yacht
last kernel
I am talking about Bp
peak fable
See thatās the thing
crisp violet
that was last year?
last kernel
Recently BP has been getting a lot of hate
peak fable
You closely follow/like bp the most so things are more about them for you
And no one is blaming you for that
crisp violet
or am i thinking of a diff idol
last kernel
Based on that I said they would
peak fable
that was last year?
@crisp violet yes
last kernel
If this was earlier, I wouldn't have said that
peak fable
Yes
last kernel
You closely follow/like bp the most so things are more about them for you
@peak fable but I do not ignore the other things in kop :)
crisp violet
whyd i think that was 2yrs ago
naive folio
there was a male idol that killed himself too, i believe
last kernel
All I am saying that BP really got a a lot of hate in the recent times
I'm not dragging anyone into this
peak fable
there was a male idol that killed himself too, i believe
@naive folio jonghyun
last kernel
Just stating something :)
there was a male idol that killed himself too, i believe
@naive folio ya
lean yacht
peak fable
I'm not dragging anyone into this
@last kernel no one said you are
last kernel
Three idols suicided last year right?
@last kernel no one said you are
@peak fable I am saying I am not
crisp violet
suicided xd
peak fable
2 did?
crisp violet
*it is
peak fable
Itās not a word
crisp violet
crisp violet
anyways
last kernel
Ya
peak fable
Itās not just Koreans but yes
last kernel
All around the world
crisp violet
is it an Asian thing š¤
last kernel
One wouldn't find a place to go to without getting judged :/
peak fable
is it a Asian thing š¤
@crisp violet no
crisp violet
*rhetoricsm
brisk axle
nom nom nom
brisk axle
true
peak fable
Wonho
peak fable
Brain
last kernel
I saw many people blaming the BIGBANG member
snow valve
howd u correct urself incorrectly
brisk axle
are you dumb?
last kernel
:/
brisk axle
dum*
brisk axle
im read up on everything
crisp violet
agustd
naive folio
basically everything is conjecture besides the 3 statements, and any other artists posting on insta or twitter
last kernel
agustd
@crisp violet I am not going against the member
peak fable
basically everything is conjecture besides the 3 statements, and any other artists posting on insta or twitter
@naive folio who r u talking about
naive folio
someone dragging a big bang member into it
there's a lot of rumors flying around y'all
last kernel
I am saying that he was proven innocent yet people bash
naive folio
nah, i wasn't against you
peak fable
Literally the people who were caught
last kernel
But not going to talk about it, not a big bang stan
crisp violet
I saw many people blaming the BIGBANG member
Apparently he was proved innocent
@last kernel
as in ^^ this is old news
peak fable
Said he didnāt do shit
last kernel
Oh
brisk axle
feral topaz
maiden laurel
Are y'all still on the Irene situation
peak fable
Just read up stuff before u say something about it
last kernel
I'm staying
brisk axle
facts
peak fable
And donāt rely on allkpop and Koreaboo for news
last kernel
I don't
peak fable
Theyāre click bait garbage
brisk axle
last kernel
Was Seungri innocent or not
brisk axle
ichigo is my favorite kpop member
last kernel
*Is
brisk axle
i think he was guilty of gambling? idk hes in millitary court atm
peak fable
For now Iād believe so
crisp violet
koreaboo aka gossips with no evidence. sources: tweets
brisk axle
true
peak fable
Innocent until proven guilty
crisp violet
^^^
brisk axle
š„ŗ
last kernel
This is all confusing
naive folio
i mean, is there anything inherently wrong with gambling? lots of people do it
feral topaz
Seungri 
peak fable
Why is it confusing
last kernel
I'll just go back to voting
naive folio
i don't know the situation
brisk axle
its against the korean law
icy echo
peak fable
i mean, is there anything inherently wrong with gambling? lots of people do it
@naive folio just the laws
last kernel
Yes
peak fable
It is banned in Korea
fierce rain
Correct me if I'm wrong but is it that he didn't do anything guilty but he knew what was happening right
peak fable
No
crisp violet
nope
fierce rain
I didnt follow all the news during last year
last kernel
Why is it confusing
@peak fable dunno who to trust, and it stresses me out
peak fable
Donāt think he knew
crisp violet
crime was allegedly being in an illegal chatroom
brisk axle
zero evidence to suggest he knew
peak fable
@peak fable dunno who to trust, and it stresses me out
@last kernel thatās okay you can research it and decide for yourself
fierce rain
Ok
crisp violet
āallegedlyā
last kernel
When I got into kpop, I thought the most frustrating thing was to figure out the members of BTS š
naive folio
weird for people to be upset about someone for gambling though, it's not a big deal over here
fierce rain
Its just the law
naive folio
but i get it's different laws and cultures
peak fable
Yes but itās different for different countries
Ye> but i get it's different laws and cultures
@naive folio
last kernel
I thought I'll differentiate with hair colours, but the next video I see, nahš¤£
brisk axle
weird for people to be upset about someone for gambling though, it's not a big deal over here
@naive folio no1 really cares about the gambling they are just idiots and still think hes guilty of other things
cancel culture
naive folio
cancel culture is cancer culture
maiden laurel
brisk axle
it also doesnt help that bigbang was really popular and people love to see really big things fall
last kernel
True
simple karma
@fierce rain ppl just thought and still think he's part of it cuz he was one of the club's directors. But yes there's no evidence still.
crisp violet
nah i thought it was fair he was questioned
people should know if heās innocent or not
last kernel
Ok ppl story time:
When I got to know abut kpop, I hated them because everyone else did so. Then I'd realize that if I don't like them, I don't like them. There's no reason to hate also I am definitely not going to hate and stuff if I don't know anything about a certain thing
Sorry that was random
crisp violet
if hes innocent then his name can be clarified of suspicion
just the hate he got as if he was guilty already - despite not being proven
that was unfair
feral topaz
there are arguments for both sides of whether a system wants to legalise gambling or not. just because it's one way in your country doesn't mean the other way is wrong
crisp violet
mhm
last kernel
When I watch the BWL MV, I thought RM was an old man (cause even though he had silver hair, it looks like white hair in the MV) and he literally became my inspirationš¤£I was amazed to see that a 'old man' can dance so well. So the next day I was talking to my friend who was a BTS fan, and she was saying that RM is the leader. And then I was like, āOh the old guy. Ya it's rlly impressive how he can dance at this age'
feral topaz
last kernel
And then my friend was like āhE dYeD his hAiR siLvEr/ wHiTe
maiden laurel
