kpop-chat

[rigid cosmos]

Not really

Monster not really korean friendly

[urban thicket]

how is monster not korean friendly?

[worthy cradle]

That chorus

[worthy viper]

chart analysts are here

[errant kernel]

That chorus is just 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[honest hinge]

Not focusing on Chungha when Monster isn't out yet

[worthy cradle]

Seulgi vocals

[urban thicket]

well it is

https://open.spotify.com/album/4DFheSBXhfewjz7SSe4Kyc?si=pQ1_xGYHRXiCcAh0a3HF9A#_=_

[ember ice]

wtf is this chorus

[simple karma]

Chorus slaps

[worthy cradle]

3 min song again

[simple karma]

[simple zinc]

im waiting for MV for monster but im listening to Diamond and i swear this don't sound like its irene & seulgi lool

[urban thicket]

this album slapppps

[main canopy]

do i just listen to it

[honest hinge]

First listen MV or bust

[main canopy]

i wanted to see the mv

[ember ice]

the dubstep

very unnecessary

[urban thicket]

idk what the big deal of listening to the mv first is, enjoy the music since it's there for u 🙂

[feral sun]

the dubstep

is good

switches up the song

[next lynx]

[feral sun]

[worthy cradle]

In my playlist at first listen

[simple karma]

Ye if u aren't a big fan of dubstep , the song isn't for u

[simple zinc]

first listens hit harder with MV

[simple karma]

Chungha also rlly good pog

And sf9 album

Good day for music

[worthy viper]

[feral sun]

wait

[calm zodiac]

Diamond giving me old Red Velvet feels

[feral sun]

the dubstep

at the end

so good

[main canopy]

pt u made me listen to it

brb

[feral sun]

yea diamond at the beginning def has be natural vibes

[feral topaz]

yessir

[errant kernel]

Damn I’m loving Play too

[feral topaz]

[errant kernel]

We got fed with good music today

[clever lintel]

this chungha song

[errant kernel]

Tropical house that I actually like

[peak fable]

rv so good

[ember ice]

chungha

[peak fable]

changmo

[clever lintel]

[feral sun]

Monster soty actually

[next lynx]

[ember ice]

play play play

[feral sun]

[main canopy]

monster is nice

[ember ice]

i like the bsides more than monster

[main canopy]

tea do you like play more than stay tonight

[ember ice]

yeah

[main canopy]

[ember ice]

do you

[main canopy]

imma give play a few listens

[ember ice]

[feral sun]

the bsides aight

but monster actually slaps hard

the drops

[simple karma]

Monster so good

[peak fable]

bsides are better peyton

[main canopy]

i thought the dubstep part would be a dance break

[calm zodiac]

feel good is sooo good

[feral sun]

it might be in the nonexistent mv fyps

[main canopy]

i feel like play chorus sounds like a better and faster gogobebe chorus

still

[next lynx]

play play play

[main canopy]

[sturdy sundial]

sm actual clowns

[main canopy]

[sturdy sundial]

they released the mv making film on melon

but no mv

[main canopy]

[next lynx]

[simple zinc]

what kinda mess

[robust jackal]

omg changmo's part hits hard

[clever lintel]

we love changmo

[ember ice]

changmo

chungha 100% track record with bops this year

[main canopy]

HER ALBUM IS GONNA SLAP SO HARD

[next lynx]

[clever lintel]

this my fav chungha song now

[simple karma]

https://twitter.com/kchartsmaster/status/1280070901346832387?s=19

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster)

"Monster" is now @RVsmtown's best selling album in the 1st week on Hanteo.

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[next lynx]

[feral sun]

im one of those buyers

[worthy cradle]

soon

[simple zinc]

LMAO

[next lynx]

[tribal cosmos]

[feral topaz]

selena weren't you going to sleep

[tribal cosmos]

Can't sleep

[feral topaz]

we hate that

[gentle osprey]

[tribal cosmos]

Yeah I need to get up in 5 hrs

[gentle osprey]

Watch or read something boring

And get off dc

[tribal cosmos]

True

[clever lintel]

I hope you can fall asleep soon!

[tribal cosmos]

Pep!

[clever lintel]

me

[feral topaz]

him

[tribal cosmos]

My bts uno comes in today!

[clever lintel]

[tribal cosmos]

[clever lintel]

my friend shipped me it like last week

I didnt open it tho pff

[tribal cosmos]

Do u have anyone to play it w

[clever lintel]

I could ask my family lol but probably wont

I just got it cause she said she'd give it to me for free so why not

[feral topaz]

would they enjoy playing uno cards with kbois on them

[clever lintel]

[feral topaz]

i wish i was into uno

catan bts edition when

[winter python]

Can uno do other groups as well pls

[green jay]

https://twitter.com/OH_mes2/status/1280080736628822016?s=19

mes #TeamPinky (@OH_mes2)

Red Velvet "Monster" debut chart rankings

7pm KST

Melon 3
Genie 4
Bugs 1

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[fierce rain]

No mv so ppl listen on streaming sites

[feral topaz]

that's not the only reason

would've been this regardless

[green jay]

^

[random violet]

https://twitter.com/oh_mes2/status/1280015963321036800?s=21

mes #TeamPinky (@OH_mes2)

Weki Meki Doyeon and Yoojung reportedly cast as leads of upcoming webdrama 'Melo Not Solo'

Broadcast later in 2020
https://t.co/kK6EgrmgeQ

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best girls

[simple karma]

Doyeon

[random violet]

yoojung

[green jay]

https://twitter.com/kchartsofficial/status/1280068804760834048?s=20

Kpop Charts (@kchartsofficial)

[HT] 07.06.2020 @ 18:20 KST

Irene & Seulgi (@RVsmtown) "Monster" - 79,301 copies (1st day)

still counting

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[fierce rain]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCTA-oulRlU/?igshid=1p7yl1gqkdplu oh the album is so small and cute

[torpid bloom]

Red Velvet Official
https://instagram.com/p/CCTA-oulRlU/

Red Velvet - IRENE & SEULGI The 1st Mini Album ‘Monster’ is OUT 🖤🤍

많은 사랑 부탁 드려요🐰 🐻

#RedVelvet_IRENE_SEULGI #레드벨벳_아이린_슬기 #IRENE #아이린 @renebaebae #SEULGI #슬기 @hi_sseulgi #RedVelvet #레드벨벳 #Monster
https://bit.ly/3dZzh0F

[next lynx]

[feral topaz]

their photocards are pretty pog too

[fierce rain]

Mina things keep getting recommended to me on yt

[feral topaz]

twice?

[worthy cradle]

AOA

I have many recommandations too...

[main canopy]

i watched one video by some dude called Duke and now i get his videos all the time

and he reacts to everything

[feral topaz]

yeah i googled her for some gifs yesterday and everything is filled with bullying things

[main canopy]

[worthy cradle]

You can block a channel fyfy

[main canopy]

really

[feral topaz]

also, don't remember seeing this posted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnq7_E_Tzlw

[main canopy]

wtf today is

ty clad i clicked on not interested

[feral topaz]

not interested is for similar posts as well

or you can do don't recommend channel

[worthy cradle]

Yup

[feral topaz]

if it's just that channel

[main canopy]

ty

[worthy cradle]

I click on that button for TLOU II spoilers

Still no mv right

[feral sun]

Nope

Stayed up for no reason

[feral topaz]

the message on their website has gone back to 6 pm kst

[simple zinc]

What the hell

[maiden laurel]

tmrw 6pm

[simple zinc]

I’m going to sleep I’m over

[fierce rain]

8pm kst they said

Oh seulrene number 1 on bugs and genie

[errant kernel]

Some SM employees better get fired today cause 💀

[fierce rain]

I was seeing why fairtreatmentforgot7 hashtag was trending

Then turns out they sent a truck to jyp too

[errant kernel]

What’re they asking for though?

[feral topaz]

sm has done this many times

don't think they care much

[tribal river]

Seulgi and Irene ❤️

[green jay]

https://twitter.com/kchartsofficial/status/1280095901508231169?s=20

Kpop Charts (@kchartsofficial)

"Monster" by Irene & Seulgi (@RVsmtown) is the first song to debut on MelOn after the new chart reform (#51).

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[clever lintel]

Happened for wayv like a month ago

Sm never learns

[worthy cradle]

Now they removed the time

[next lynx]

[feral topaz]

it's been happening since like last year

a lot

[worthy cradle]

Seems like all the big groups have the same problems

[next lynx]

[fierce rain]

They made an even longer list

https://twitter.com/GOT7StreamTeam/status/1280012242667200513?s=19

GOT7 Streaming Team (@GOT7StreamTeam)

[PROJECT 2/?: BETTER TREATMENT FOR GOT7]
[ PART 3: Protest ]
DAY 4 (7/6 Mon.)

It's time to MASS EMAIL JYPE!🔥
Mail them at [e-mail], and let us know👇

INSTRUCTIONS: https://t.co/BHQ8a8UgKR

Our statement: https://t.co/QcrMVR85on

#FairTreatmentForGOT7
#GOT7 @GOT7Official...

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[worthy cradle]

OOF

[fierce rain]

The statement link

Its even more detailed

[worthy cradle]

They not here to play

[clever lintel]

Got7 def needs more from jyp

[worthy cradle]

Does SKZ get more attention from JYP ?

[feral topaz]

more than got7 yes

[simple karma]

Kinda ye

[feral topaz]

but jyp generally focuses more on ggs than bgs

day6 have it the worst by a mile

[fierce rain]

https://youtu.be/MJAXJ2DIKZE even sera

[simple karma]

Sera

[ember ice]

If you look at it

some of those got7 stuff

is ???????????????

[fierce rain]

Wdym tea

[ember ice]

won’t say here

just some of their demands sound very ???????

1% sample

[feral topaz]

they are a bit much i guess

but it's a truck lol

[ember ice]

don’t agree about promotion

they get as long as a promo as twice does what else they want

?????

[feral topaz]

like the last one, they should sign to a US label

[simple karma]

I agree about promo

Same as twice usually

[ember ice]

All of jyp are signed to same label

iirc

or rather all are signed to a label

[fierce rain]

Only skz promoted for so long

For gods menu

I like how they used "respectfully instruct" lmao

[ember ice]

they are popular and senior enough to not bust their ass for 4-5 weeks every comeback

these demands weird as hell

[simple karma]

Maybe even the boys have talked with jyp that they don't want to promote as much as before.

[feral topaz]

also i don't understand this constant demand of updating everything in english everywhere and using english during lives and shit

"unnie please speak in english"

like your unnie is korean let her be

[fierce rain]

Didn't they only say subs

[simple karma]

They said only subs shadow

Not for them to all in English

Which is understandable

They have a lot of ifans

To talk*

[feral topaz]

yeah the official demand is just for subs, which still immediately at the time of upload is a bit much imo

i was just adding the constant use english spams during lives

[simple karma]

It's not that hard tbh

If yg can do it. Why not jypv

[main canopy]

[feral topaz]

but it's also not their job to do it. you know what got7 is, what they are going to give you. wait for some fansite or something to translate. you getting into them knowing what they are and then demanding them to change to your comfort will always be a bit much imo.

they never said that they will do english subs for mvs and shit

and they are not exactly very international either

[main canopy]

twice doesnt have subs on most of their videos as well

[simple karma]

Yes and it's dumb imo.

Hire some translators and do the job.

About mvs and reality. No one talking about vlives

[fierce rain]

Twice does have subs

The recent ones are done by jyp

[feral topaz]

i mean it's a two way street for me. they definitely need us and should cater to our needs. but i also like them and want to consume content they produce. so a bit of it also falls on me, to learn korean or at least be patient enough.

Not everything should be a demand

[ember ice]

well

if got7 gets subs i better see itzy get subs as well then bc they're under the same division

[bold basin]

gim subs

[simple karma]

Well ye. Im talking about all groups ofc. Not only got7

[ember ice]

gim subs jer

[simple karma]

It's how it should be for the groups with big ifanbase

[bold basin]

subs, subs

[ember ice]

hey HEY

[sonic cliff]

ty for ping sho, I saw it this morning

Jiu looks as always

[fierce rain]

https://twitter.com/HaoOppa/status/1280112712886874113?s=19

DC FANSIGN D-1 (@HaoOppa)

in which parallel universe? https://t.co/bQeyFME1Dd

Twitter

[quiet totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3Oo7FJfqMY

[tribal cosmos]

its been hrs and mv still not here

[quiet totem]

in 19 minutes its midnight in Korea, lets see if they release it

[errant kernel]

Can they at least give a reason why they delayed it?

[feral topaz]

there must be a reason why they are not giving a reason!

[quiet totem]

too much work for a group that they will dump next year

[feral topaz]

it'll be a slow dump

[worthy cradle]

[feral topaz]

2-3 years

[quiet totem]

didnt they contracts expire next year?

[feral topaz]

they will most likely re-sign

[errant kernel]

Isn’t the new SM girl group debuting this year too?

[feral topaz]

there are rumours. but that doesn't mean anything. they've had snsd, fx and rv signed to them at the same time for a couple of years

and all 3 fairly active

[errant kernel]

Fx are active??

[feral topaz]

not now

2014-15

[errant kernel]

I doubt they’re releasing anything together any time soon

[quiet totem]

F(x) active

[errant kernel]

Victoria’s in China, Amber/Luna left SM, Krystal said she doesn’t enjoy performing anymore

[feral topaz]

did you guys not read what i said

[errant kernel]

Ohhh I thought you meant they were still active lmao

[quiet totem]

lets be honest, fx was neglected by SM

[feral topaz]

i've gotten myself into that way too many times so gonna avoid. yes it's not been ideal but the point i was making is that they don't just disband their groups because a new one is debuting.

[errant kernel]

True

[quiet totem]

thats true, sm never disband groups

they only go to a permanent hiatus

[errant kernel]

None of them have disbanded yet

[feral topaz]

it's possible that someone from rv leaves. who knows who. but we might get some kind of unit music at the very least, and solo stuff from the members who choose to stay.

[errant kernel]

I wonder if Wendy will renew

[fierce rain]

wendy can go anywhere with those vocals

[feral topaz]

no v

mv

[gentle osprey]

[errant kernel]

Still no video FFS

[gentle osprey]

i havent listened to it yet cause i was waiting for the MV

[quiet totem]

rip

[worthy cradle]

tf are they doing

[errant kernel]

I’m going to bed

[gentle osprey]

guess I will listen to the audio only

[errant kernel]

Thank god YG never does this bullshit for BP releases

[feral topaz]

why are people saying that it's because of some lesbian stuff

[gentle osprey]

[errant kernel]

Imagine if YG delayed a BLACKPINK MV with no notice

[gentle osprey]

they didnt only do this for this mv right. SM is known for this

[errant kernel]

Basically

WayV’s new video came out at like 3AM KST for no reason

[simple karma]

rumors on twt shadow . nothing official

[feral topaz]

they've been doing it since spark last year

[gentle osprey]

[errant kernel]

All I know is that people need to be fired there lmao

[gentle osprey]

i mean dont they premiere videos like YG does ?

its scheduled and all

[tribal cosmos]

https://twitter.com/RVsmtown/status/1280155187026358272?s=19

Red Velvet (@RVsmtown)

안녕하세요.
에스엠엔터테인먼트 입니다.

레드벨벳-아이린&슬기의 'Monster' 뮤직비디오가 7월 7일 오후 12시(정오)에 공개됩니다.
예정된 공개 시간보다 지연된 점 양해 부탁드리며, 여러분의 많은 성원 바랍니다.

감사합니다.

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12pm kst tomorrow

[errant kernel]

Oh they’re releasing it at 12PM KST 🤡

Could’ve said this 6 hours ago

[worthy cradle]

https://twitter.com/RVsmtown/status/1280155549158354947?s=20

Red Velvet (@RVsmtown)

Red Velvet - IRENE & SEULGI 'Monster' MV will be released on 7/7 at 12PM (KST).

Please excuse the inconvenience caused by the delay, and thank you for your understanding and support.

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[simple karma]

12h smh

[tribal cosmos]

dumbos

[fierce rain]

:V

[next lynx]

[tribal cosmos]

Irene not having it

[errant kernel]

Are they trying to claim the title for dumbest agency

[gentle osprey]

wdym sel

[tribal cosmos]

I just bet shes angry

[worthy cradle]

how to sabotage their own gg by SM ep1541218841

[tribal cosmos]

[gentle osprey]

oh

i thought she was going off somewhere lol

but yeah gg SM

[errant kernel]

I can imagine the two girls aren’t very happy

[worthy cradle]

well we don't know the reason

[errant kernel]

They never gave one lol

[quiet totem]

imagine their faces after the vlive countdown to see that there is no mv

[feral topaz]

i am sure they were made aware and didn't find out that way

but yeah it sucks

[errant kernel]

Lord they made people wait 6 hours to announce a delay

And for what?

[feral topaz]

even izone's mv was delayed

[gentle osprey]

[errant kernel]

True but they at least gave a reason lmao

[gentle osprey]

YG and JYP only doing things right when come to mvs

[errant kernel]

SM be acting like they planned it like this all along

Honestly

Remembered SM delaying RV’s One Of These Nights video a day later to “ensure a high quality of work” 💀

[feral topaz]

i do not remember that

was a while ago

[simple karma]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3urvGYDpsAk

[quiet totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4xb7punc-Y

[sonic cliff]

[honest hinge]

Gidle doing their own mashup mv

[worthy cradle]

Chungha not for me

[winter python]

I feel like the monster mv will be released at noon kst

[worthy cradle]

[next lynx]

[winter python]

Chungha was a banger for me

[next lynx]

[simple karma]

i'm the trend slaps

https://twitter.com/kchartsofficial/status/1280156501873537024

Kpop Charts (@kchartsofficial)

Irene & Seulgi (@RVsmtown) "Monster" has now sold a total of 87,928 in its first day of sales.

It is now already the best selling album by a girl group sub-unit in Hanteo history,

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[winter python]

[simple karma]

chungha not bad

[worthy cradle]

too noisy for me

[simple karma]

monster bsides are okayish

i like feel good a lot

[winter python]

I like all songs on monster

[simple karma]

time for sf9

[worthy cradle]

On Feel goof rn

Monster is an absolute bop

[simple karma]

Monster slaps

yes

[honest hinge]

What other big ggs have had sub units in recent years?

[simple karma]

idk big ggs

[quiet totem]

not many tbh

[simple karma]

except

ohgg

idk others

loona not a big one

[honest hinge]

I guess big would be a relative term, but decently popular at least

[quiet totem]

almost all the subunits are from male groups

[feral topaz]

oh!gg didn't promote and had kihno only

[fierce rain]

oh!gg

good joke

[simple karma]

lil touch still a big bop

[feral topaz]

what do you expect from a 13 year old gg

bust their ass for a couple of songs

there's banhana but not big i suppose

[simple karma]

yes! they need to release 30 songs per year!

[honest hinge]

I guess only BP and Twice would be close to RV in sub unit hype. Though I don't see Twice ever doing sub units unless for some Japan release

[worthy cradle]

Twice subunit would not be a hit imo

[fierce rain]

oh!gg debut then straight no more songs i mean

[worthy cradle]

individually they're not as strong as RV or BP

[feral topaz]

they will have a cb this year!

[honest hinge]

Ye sadly their individual talent not good enough

[feral topaz]

[winter python]

gugudan semina is good

[simple karma]

first time seeing shadow clowning

[feral topaz]

LOL

jk

yuri liked a comment on her ig that said "like if oh!gg is preparing a cb"

[winter python]

Also aoa cream and aoa black are technically subunits

[simple karma]

twice vocal line would do good imo

[feral topaz]

they are talking about recent units my man

black died years ago

cream has 1 song

[fierce rain]

najeongji

[honest hinge]

What is Twice vocal line even? Jihyo Nahyeon Jeon?

[winter python]

Cherry bullet has subunits from pre-debut that just haven't released anything since the full group debut

[fierce rain]

yes

[simple karma]

yes twinzen

[honest hinge]

Hmm yeah I could see them doing a good song tbh

But Jeon and Jihyo some of the least popular Twice members iirc

[simple karma]

wut

[feral topaz]

[simple karma]

i can kinda agree about jeon but jihyo no way lol

[trail lotus]

did monster mv drop?

[simple karma]

nah

in 12h

[trail lotus]

for real?

[simple karma]

ye

officially

[trail lotus]

why the delay

[simple karma]

no one knows

no explanation

[honest hinge]

Ye I could be wrong, just remember that at least in beginning Jihyo wasnt so popular

[fierce rain]

she started getting popular since dtna

[feral topaz]

also, subunits are usually not made based on popularity but necessity. wendy is not fit enough to participate in group activities that why this happened otherwise they would've just done a group cb

[fierce rain]

my bias

[simple karma]

^ true

[feral topaz]

a couple of snsd members had acting stuff to do that's why tts was born

and some have left now so no option but oh!gg

unless twice members have some individual activity they will not do a unit

[fierce rain]

unlikely

[feral topaz]

but if it so happens, they will pick the available members to make sense, not popularity

like imo a 3 member unit with nayeon jihyo and jung does better than a 3 member unit with sana momo and tzuyu

[honest hinge]

Yeah this was just a hypothetical thought and how they would compare in popularity to the likes of RV

[feral topaz]

who i think are the 3 most popular?

[worthy cradle]

Nayeon Momo for sure

idk the third

[tribal cosmos]

M O M O

[fierce rain]

tzuyu

[proven cedar]

Tzuyu Sana Momo

???

[simple karma]

tzuyu definitely top 3

[tribal cosmos]

Sana def top 3 imo

[simple karma]

sana yes

sana is literally winning

every poll

[honest hinge]

In Korea or globally?

[simple karma]

about who's the most popular

lol

[rigid cosmos]

sana dubu nayeon

[simple karma]

mina is also rlly popular in korea

[proven cedar]

Also, Jihyo was unpopular because netizen think she was chubby, then she lost weight but netizen still think she was ugly, but then she start to glowing up and became so beautiful

[tribal cosmos]

nah not dubu

Jihyo was always beautiful

[simple karma]

god jihyo

[proven cedar]

I think Jihyo just wasnt confident, because netizen criticism

[honest hinge]

Knetz have insane "standards" for beauty. Same with Hwasa and others

[feral topaz]

well i was just saying that a less popular vocal unit makes more musical sense than a more popular visual unit

but yeah y'all continue that

[proven cedar]

But knetz seems accept hwasa, no?

[simple karma]

i agree shadow ye

[gentle osprey]

Taco. Jihyo got me in M&M dance practice i forgot to tell you

i might have switched biases based on performances

[simple karma]

knetz accept hwasa? they always say she is ugly and fat

[proven cedar]

Jihyo DTNA and Fancy is the best

[worthy cradle]

Jihyo DTNA def her best era

[honest hinge]

No Shadow I agree with that

[honest hinge]

I doubt a sub unit with Tzuyu Sana Momo could produce a passable song

[gentle osprey]

hopped from momo/mina to Jihyo

[fierce rain]

good choice

[simple karma]

facny era jihyo my fav

fancy*

[honest hinge]

I hop between Jihyo and Dubu

[proven cedar]

Wasnt the best vocal in Twice are Jeongyeon and Jihyo?

[feral topaz]

minas are best other than nugudan

[simple karma]

nayeon and jihyo

3 of them are the best

[feral topaz]

sejeong's back says otherwise

[worthy cradle]

Jihyo def the best vocalist in Twice

[gentle osprey]

still have a soft spot for mina i watched her minecraft video a while ago. super cute

[simple karma]

mina

[feral topaz]

[fierce rain]

u can switch between jeongyeon and nayeon for 2 and 3 but i like jeong more

[next lynx]

[worthy cradle]

jihyo > jeongyeon > nayeon imo too

[honest hinge]

Issue with Twice is that JYP forces vocals on some members that are out of their range

[simple karma]

true. been a problem for a long time

[feral topaz]

that's not just a twice problem that's all their ggs

wg was fine but since then

[simple karma]

^

[fierce rain]

look at lia

[simple karma]

i personally don't like momo singing in her "korean" and "cute" voice. her normal and deeper voice is way better. but who am I to suggest stuff to jyp

[worthy cradle]

very fucking true

we first heard it in Breakthrough iirc

I was

[fierce rain]

a vocal teacher heard her part in more and more

and she was like

that was so damn high

[honest hinge]

Momo in the Taemin Move cover was great

[tribal cosmos]

im momo biased but I can't stand her voice at times

[honest hinge]

Perfect for her range

[simple karma]

first singing in breakthrough i think ye

there are some clips from vlives and stuff like that, she talks and sings there with her normal voice

[fierce rain]

listening to bt to remind myself

ah yea that deeper tone

[feral topaz]

i mean they are fine for what they do tbh

just don't expect a masterful vocal performance and it's fine

[simple karma]

i agree

but then u have that incident from the encore

and the girls get so much hate

[honest hinge]

That was oof, felt so sorry for Momo

[feral topaz]

i've never taken encores seriously, they are not there to display your vocal abilities. you've just won, have fun with the members

that's how i look at it

[simple karma]

same for me. it's nice when the members actually sing on it, but yes there are not for them to perform the song lol

[split prairie]

soooooo did I miss the Monster m/v? why is there just a lyric video on ReVel YT?

[worthy cradle]

they're singers after all, so their vocals should be present even while having fun

still not out Shabz

[fierce rain]

monster mv in 6 hrs

[feral topaz]

11

[simple karma]

11

12pm kst

[split prairie]

why would the lyric video come out before the m/v?

[simple karma]

cuz sm delayed the mv again

[fierce rain]

oh wait

i can't count lmao

[split prairie]

then delay the whole thing, lol

[simple karma]

even the mv making film is out lol

[honest hinge]

Isnt 12pm midnight

[split prairie]

no. midnight is 12am

[simple karma]

no 12 am is midnight

[split prairie]

midnight starts the day

[honest hinge]

Ah

[split prairie]

12am = 00:00

[honest hinge]

Im bad with 12h clock lol

[worthy cradle]

logic, it's dumb

[split prairie]

its not the best. people get thrown off by it all the time. "midnight saturday" could mean the midnight between friday and saturday or saturday and sunday depending on who you ask

24hr clock is better, just like the metric system

so did everyone listen to the song or are you waiting on the m/v

[honest hinge]

Its just weird it goes from 12am to 1am then 11am to 12pm

[feral topaz]

midnight saturday always means the start of saturday, the other ones are just wrong

[simple karma]

i listened

slaps

[split prairie]

Yea they're wrong but it doesn't matter when there's so many of them that are wrong that it requires you to specify or else your plans get ruined

i remember in video games we would never schedule anything for midnight because invariably people would get it wrong. everything happened at 11:59

[lilac elm]

The song slaps

I just really wanted to see the MV 😭

[simple karma]

in a few hours

[maiden laurel]

so many good songs came out today

blessin my ears

[simple karma]

truee

[next lynx]

[shut timber]

feel good best of them all

[feral topaz]

[simple karma]

feel good the only bside i liked

so good

[split prairie]

RV subunit getting BLackpink-length albums xD

[trail lotus]

you mean the less than 3min?

[feral topaz]

https://twitter.com/suitaes/status/1280171612357058560?s=20

a (@suitaes)

someone on instiz made a list of all of sm artists’ mv delays 💀

Retweets

272

Likes

406

Twitter

[trail lotus]

i wasn't aware that was something SM did

[main canopy]

[limber remnant]

sm-slow mode lol

slow mode entertainment

[next lynx]

[split prairie]

Zerow I meant the 4+bonus track mini album that Monster was on

[cursive belfry]

That doesn’t even include mr mr does it

[feral topaz]

it does

[split prairie]

It's a very chill and easy to listen to album

[cursive belfry]

Didn’t click on the tweet nvm

[deft axle]

https://youtu.be/52Q6U5bzwN4

chaewonie covering jennie

[gentle osprey]

did u like monster taco ?

at the first listen

[brisk summit]

i dunno how to feel about it

[simple karma]

i rlly liked it

now I like it even more

chorus is so good

[random violet]

not listening till mv

[next lynx]

[winter python]

Aside from the dubstep/edm part it was really good

[simple karma]

so almost half teh song lol

the*

[gentle osprey]

i waited the whole day too lin

but then they said they'd drop it tmr so i said f it

i dont like monster so far i love the b sides though

[random violet]

not a big rv fan so i can wait

[gentle osprey]

the dubstep part is exactly what puts me off

i dont like it

[simple karma]

i like dubstep a lot so I guess that's why I like it so much

[gentle osprey]

i dont like dubstep

its so weird

but diamond omg

rnb vibes

[tribal cosmos]

I haven't listened to any of it

idc until mv drops

[winter python]

Me and wawa on same page with monster it seems

[simple karma]

can't get into diamond

[wild heron]

What

[gentle osprey]

lol taco

[simple karma]

kinda weak for me

[gentle osprey]

i love diamond best so far

[next lynx]

[gentle osprey]

but i like chill songs so

you know me

[winter python]

And dubstep for me depends on the song

[simple karma]

feel good though

[gentle osprey]

i like diamond cause it focuses on their vocals

very mellow

[winter python]

Uncover so good

[gentle osprey]

minimalistic sound

[winter python]

[split prairie]

the whole thing was very chill and easy to listen to. modern r&b vibe.

There's a nother SKZ cb? what? lol

God's Menu was 2 weeks ago

[simple karma]

no?

u mean Easy?

[next lynx]

Easy MV?

[split prairie]

yea

[simple karma]

that's a bside

[next lynx]

[main canopy]

[next lynx]

fyps

[simple karma]

and a rlly good one. like the whole album

[tribal cosmos]

i felt that shabz

I feel like skz comes back every month

[split prairie]

ok. "cb" was the wrong term, then. but yea, 2 m/vs 2 weeks apart. cries in yg

[feral topaz]

[tribal cosmos]

skz has lots of mv content

nothing new

[wild heron]

uh huh

[feral topaz]

I think I need to the white role to go with the heart

Time to yoink a couple of emojis

Also yeah skz is like the current top bet they have of international success

West loves rap in the songs

And nobody has better rappers

[simple karma]

true

[brisk axle]

[simple karma]

nobody active rap

rat*

[next lynx]

[brisk axle]

ill accept that

[simple karma]

[split prairie]

I had a couple rebuttals but neither currently work sooooooo

yea skz best rap line rn

[next lynx]

[winter python]

same shabz

[feral topaz]

I made the statement keeping those rebuttals in mind

[winter python]

[split prairie]

a JYP group having the best rap line in kpop is a trip tho

fuck it. i refuse. blackpink best rap line

[feral topaz]

[split prairie]

[simple karma]

no one can top jenlisa indeed

[brisk axle]

ikon with bi would be up there for sure

bobby

[split prairie]

yea ikon were one of the two. the other is obvious

[feral topaz]

[simple karma]

i didn't say ikon cuz ye.. no bi

[brisk axle]

bobby is my favorite active rapper tho so im bias

[split prairie]

yea but he's also pretty widely accepted as the best current idol rapper

[winter python]

laughs in soyeon and dami

[brisk axle]

uhhh

[simple karma]

dami can't rap!

[split prairie]

ban

BAN

[brisk axle]

i think soyeon is best female rapper

[simple karma]

[winter python]

[simple karma]

i was joking btw shabz

[split prairie]

i know you were lol

[simple karma]

ah ok

[feral topaz]

Jimin best female rapper, any takers?

[simple karma]

jimin best female bully

[winter python]

Also I don't see ateez and bigbang raplines being brought up

[feral topaz]

But LE actually best

[simple karma]

ateez rap line is good

but it's not

skz or ikon

for me at least

[brisk axle]

bigbang isnt really active

otherwise id say bigbang 100x

[feral topaz]

That's why they aren't included

YESSIR

[winter python]

Don't forget nct rapline

[brisk axle]

[feral topaz]

[split prairie]

which nct rap line

[brisk axle]

i prefer skz

[split prairie]

xD

[cursive belfry]

rat rap line best

[feral topaz]

Whoever hasn't should listen to mad city

[brisk axle]

TRUE JAE

i love that kendrick song

[worthy viper]

[simple karma]

mino is also a good rapper

[fallow kernel]

https://youtu.be/i0MrGb1hT2U

JAE AHHSJSKDKS

[brisk axle]

mino is also a good rapper :allmyuwus:
@simple karma true!

does skz write their own music?

[cursive belfry]

pogme

[simple karma]

some of it yes rat

[feral topaz]

3racha was completely them!

and not some, pretty much most of it is done by those 3 only

[simple karma]

now that I think about it yes

[main canopy]

[simple karma]

I know miroh was all 3racha and one han song

[feral topaz]

nah even now they do most of it

chan and changbin are beasts

i am sure han is equally good

[main canopy]

bang chan is so stable

during performances

[winter python]

We love idols who write all the songs for their group

[main canopy]

soyeon and friends

[feral topaz]

we love the ones who don't also

[winter python]

True shadow

[simple karma]

yes sho. smh !

[winter python]

[sonic cliff]

Everyone forgot monsta x rapline

[simple karma]

from what I've seen, most of the ppl here aren't big on mx gutter

[sonic cliff]

[split prairie]

always felt mx rapline was too aggressive

[main canopy]

i like shownu

[winter python]

Jooheon and im are amazing but not as good as skz or ateez imo

[split prairie]

also, soyeon is probably the best female rapper but i can only listen to the high pitch female rap voice for so long before its tiring

Dami/Jennie much more my wheelhouse

[winter python]

What about LE?

[simple karma]

LE

SLAPS

[feral topaz]

you wouldn't feel that way if you were listening to the actual best active rapper

[sonic cliff]

IM is the more calm rap, Jooheon super aggressive rap

[brisk axle]

i prefer monsta x english stuff

[simple karma]

but ye soyeon best for me too

[sonic cliff]

I like the pairing more than them individually

[winter python]

IM is my bias

[sonic cliff]

I think they bounce off each other well

[split prairie]

What I love the most about LE is how she incorporates rap into the songs. It blends together with the rest of the song so well. Other songs feel like they're breaking away from the song to give you a rap verse and then bring you back to the song

[next lynx]

[winter python]

Soyeon without question best female rapper imo

[split prairie]

Vocally, she's right at the border for me. I can listen to her more than the signature Cube female rapper sound

[dire junco]

Lisa's slow & rhythmic rapping is the best.

[feral topaz]

yeah look at these people man

[simple karma]

idk, there's smth with soyeon's rap. it's so satisfying to listen to.

[feral topaz]

sitting in bpcord

not calling bp best

[sonic cliff]

Soyeon is best female rapper imo

[main canopy]

idk im not biased but i like Lisa's rap the most

[simple karma]

lisa my 3rd fav rapper actually

[main canopy]

she has the vibe

[sonic cliff]

Lisa 3rd for me too taco

[simple karma]

soyeon, le, lisa my top 3

then byulie

[sonic cliff]

Soyeon, Dami, Lisa, Byul for me

idk le

[winter python]

soyeon, byulie, dami, le, lisa my top 5

[main canopy]

if soyeon rapped like she did in kda or giants

[split prairie]

as far as personal preference goes, for me its Jennie, Dami, Byul, Le, Lisa, Soyeon

[sonic cliff]

I prefer the kda rap over giants rap

[split prairie]

if soyeon had a lower tone, she'd easily be my favorite

[next lynx]

same gutter

[main canopy]

if she had a longer rap in giants

[winter python]

If a certain someone wasn't such a bully, she may have been in my top 5 as well

[main canopy]

id prefer it more too

[feral topaz]

i am having trouble putting in the 5th name

[main canopy]

[sonic cliff]

[winter python]

[brisk axle]

JENNIE BEST

[winter python]

Rat best

[brisk axle]

TRUE!

[dire junco]

High nasally pitched is the biggest problem of a lot of popular female kpop rappers. Unless the song is awesome like Lip & Hip or EXID stuff, it's just too much.

[simple karma]

not for me

[split prairie]

picking male rappers reallly gets my yg bias out there. lol

[quiet totem]

with female rappers we are talking only about idol rappers?

[feral topaz]

yes

[split prairie]

yes

[quiet totem]

oh, okay, because I was triggering for nobody mentioning Yoon Mirae

[rigid cosmos]

who

[feral topaz]

i mean

yoon mirae is kinda an idol only

[dire junco]

now she is an awesome deep voiced rapper

[feral topaz]

not in a group

[split prairie]

yea if we included "actual" rappers then none of the idol rappers would make the list

[feral topaz]

actually no

[winter python]

Also cheetah is amazing

[feral topaz]

idk, she is not super underground either

but i guess not idol also

yoon mirae does have some super nutty music tho

[quiet totem]

well, technically she is part of a group

[feral topaz]

wow a man with taste 🤝

[quiet totem]

mfbty

[feral topaz]

true true

her album gemini 2 is super nut

everyone who likes rap should listen

open recommendation!

[quiet totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sviNVp5-eq0

[feral topaz]

[quiet totem]

this live is legendary, how she indirectly burned all the other idol rappers

[feral topaz]

yes it is

quickly gonna drop my favourite idol rappers

le, mimi, yeeun, jennie

can't decide 5th

[quiet totem]

miryo?

[feral topaz]

[dire junco]

Miryo is awesome in Kill Bill

[feral topaz]

i guess

she is active

but where is the music

[brisk axle]

jay park 😳

[feral topaz]

true miryo is pog

[winter python]

The raplines from craxy and ans are also really good if we want to talk about up and coming female idol rappers

[feral topaz]

do we

[winter python]

I just figured I'd mention it

[feral topaz]

i kid!

but coming back to yoon mirae, listen to this album whenever you find the time, idk taco and shabz i guess https://open.spotify.com/album/7L6gqLdAo3t6DOJKiVInks?si=X1CcNFlZSru5JrXgc82ehw

[simple karma]

i hope ans are gonna get the recognition they deserve

[feral topaz]

this guy ignoring

[winter python]

I hope the same for craxy and purplebeck

And ans too obv

[simple karma]

i saved it

will listen

[feral topaz]

you will not be disappointed!

[quiet totem]

there was another rapper that I really liked, but cant remember the name now

former yg trainee

it was on the ark

and later formed the duo with minjung?

[feral topaz]

oh

doesn't she have a song with yoon mirae?

also american

[quiet totem]

Euna kim

[feral topaz]

yeah

[quiet totem]

I was so sad for her and Minjung

[feral topaz]

oh right the song was love me love

[winter python]

rip khan

[feral topaz]

peyton used to like khan

[winter python]

[quiet totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_TRlWiqH08

prob 1 of my top 10 kpop songs ever

[winter python]

giant pink is a good rapper too

[feral topaz]

don't like her

[worthy cradle]

https://twitter.com/girlgroupspics/status/1280220321514168321?s=20

ggpics 🍑 #bIm (@girlgroupspics)

CL

Twitter

[cursive belfry]

Anyone post the dongie weibo update?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/253293557123645441/729678220420710410/200706_Handong_Weibo_Update.mp4

[sonic cliff]

[tight basin]

https://i.redd.it/wn80tr1129951.jpg

[wild heron]

Mh hm

[next lynx]

[winter python]

[feral topaz]

as you can tell from the tweet i shared earlier, they have also delayed bg mvs

the last one being wayv

[split prairie]

speaking of wayv, we're getting to a point where I'm going to need a full semester college course on the NCT universe

https://tenor.com/view/math-gif-10273186

[feral topaz]

it's not that hard if you've ever tried to put in genuine effort

it's the same 21 members

and 4 units

kinda like learning 4 new groups

[split prairie]

it's the same 21 members

lol

i know its not too bad, and i'm kinda memeing, but i saw a diagram once and was like 'paaaaaassssss'

[feral topaz]

yeah people hear 21 and already give up

guilty of doing that for a couple of years

[wild heron]

Is it true that Kaachi said Jennie was lazy?? I saw it on yt

[split prairie]

a lot of people even less qualified than kaachi members said she was lazy so shrug

[feral topaz]

lazy best

[wild heron]

ok

[main canopy]

jennie laziest idol

[tribal cosmos]

kaachi didn't call her lazy

[main canopy]

Sel nice color

[wild heron]

hm

[tribal cosmos]

it was the instructor that said it

ty fyps

[wild heron]

That's also what they said

[tribal cosmos]

kaachi had nothing to do w it

[winter python]

i called sel having a pog color and got nothing

also

[main canopy]

[feral sun]

Kaachi

[tribal cosmos]

must've been drowned in one of those cancer chats

[feral sun]

[tribal cosmos]

ty sho

[main canopy]

pt when youll be mod will you give me a nice color

[feral sun]

ofc

[main canopy]

[maiden laurel]

he won't

[winter python]

[feral sun]

LOL WTF

APE

[main canopy]

[feral sun]

[main canopy]

why tho

[feral sun]

cause i wont get mod

[main canopy]

[winter python]

[maiden laurel]

cuz no one has custom roles

[main canopy]

pt ill get it instead

[tribal cosmos]

why would you want to mod this cord

[main canopy]

[wild heron]

Private

[winter python]

bc he wants to make this dc cord #2 even tho it already is

[tribal cosmos]

then I don't want pt for mod

[feral sun]