I love
#kpop-chat
sturdy sundial
latent sonnet
feral sun
@worthy cradle I didn’t igonore you I went to sleep 
worthy cradle
feral sun
It was 6am 
clever lintel
Yessir
brisk axle
shut timber
Happy bday rat! 🥳🥳
chrome peak
brisk summit
I'd ignore clad at 6am too tbh
worthy cradle
brisk summit
Sorry clad
worthy cradle
simple karma
I even rep and fishy u at 6:30 am !
brisk summit
Id ignore you all at 6am
simple karma
Wow
brisk summit
The only time i talked to you lot at 6am was when i was in thailand and i was on my way back to the apartment lmao
simple karma
Oh rlly lol
clever lintel
brisk summit
Oh and when i was in korea i spoke to you lot at 6am there
simple karma
Oh yeah I remember a time where u were active a lot in the morning
feral sun
winter python
simple karma
worthy cradle
Gahyeoni 
brisk summit
Yea i was active cause i had to get up early as fuck lmao
peak fable
maiden laurel
next lynx
next lynx
main canopy
next lynx
new pfp inc @main canopy
main canopy
clever lintel
worthy cradle
🐢
winter python
🐢
clever lintel
idk the account just posted
winter python
mes just posted but the official idle account posted it 9.5 hours ago
worthy cradle
But snakes 
split prairie
Are we excited about Somi's show?
feral sun
idk are we
split prairie
I am
static adder
ofc
split prairie
Somi + TBL content
static adder
split prairie
Been a while since we heard from Teddy. Would be nice
clever lintel
winter python
maiden laurel
maiden laurel
Twitter
simple karma
Winner 
maiden laurel
maiden laurel
clever lintel
we love seongwu
trail lotus
heh nice sitcom like that mv of winner
maiden laurel
cursive belfry
Selena up late again 
clever lintel
imagine being up late
cursive belfry
true
clever lintel
online school gang 
cursive belfry
clever lintel
fierce rain
Uwu my album came
cursive belfry
clever lintel
peak fable
fierce rain
Mina is blonde
worthy cradle
Mina
next lynx
peak fable
peak fable
peak fable
feral sun
worthy viper
worthy viper
TRUE
sturdy sundial
simple karma
Mina 
worthy cradle
stop spam !
peak fable
peak fable
simple karma
Road to kingdom
clever lintel
its actually their best song
peak fable
true
worthy viper
any idea when it'll be on spotify
icy echo
oneus so good
simple karma
For rbw groupa
worthy viper
ah okay ty
simple karma
S*
clever lintel
oneus song chorus 
worthy cradle
holy it's really good you're right
peak fable
clever lintel
Oneus and Daniel
simple karma
I want to listen
clever lintel
halcyon moth
you still go to work?
plain monolith
clever lintel
We love this song
halcyon moth
worthy cradle
cutie
feral topaz
@maiden laurel 
halcyon moth
oh crap missed the vlive
worthy cradle
halcyon moth
working in 2020 
simple karma
I work in a warehouse. Can't stop the process
next lynx
simple karma
Since when is Aisha with blue hair
feral sun
next lynx
feral topaz
shut timber
Wife looking good today
worthy cradle
worthy cradle
next lynx
next lynx
who?
next lynx
okay
grim mist
his brother
simple karma
^
maiden laurel
oop-
thorny grove
hi
worthy cradle
hi
peak fable
hi
feral topaz
i'm sleeping 
vivid field
oof
next lynx
brisk summit
always sleeping
simple karma
halcyon moth
link?
feral topaz
halcyon moth
ty
clever lintel
Banger
simple karma
Did u hear bside
simple karma
Wow
clever lintel
We love releases at 5 am
simple karma
We do
sturdy sundial
shut timber
argggh 🥺
feral sun
worthy cradle
worthy cradle
clever lintel
👋
simple karma
hi !
worthy cradle
hi
split prairie
moving here, i guess
And these are the top names for their respective labels. This isn't even including their roster as a whole. SM has ReVel well supported, but let me look up the rest of their cast who don't write their own music
split prairie
I thought DO writes most of their stuff
simple karma
imo red velvet is good music wise
sturdy sundial
sm artists not known for having great freedom over what they do
split prairie
so... I was wrong about EXO, apparently. They don't write much of their own stuff
sturdy sundial
as expected
split prairie
wiki has limited song attribution
sturdy sundial
kai can't even choose what hairstyle he gets
split prairie
Also, SM has far fewer actually active groups than I thought
simple karma
i still can't get your point. u said " we're going to see a lack of music across the board."
the groups u are saying don't have a lack of music lol
split prairie
relative to other kpop acts, yes, but I was initially comparing it to the western recording industry
simple karma
but don't compare them.
sturdy sundial
saturated with trash
simple karma
also yes
prime dune
2 years for j Cole btw
sturdy sundial
of all kinds
simple karma
they take their time
prime dune
Rihanna who?
split prairie
yea but their music is on them. They're not on a schedule dictated to them by their labels
prime dune
No artist is in the west 
simple karma
still no point comparing them imo
prime dune
So what’s your point
split prairie
my point was literally the first thing I said. If we continue to feed money to YG despite a lack of music, we're going to continue to get a lack of music
we need to vote with our dollars
split prairie
"As long as fans keep associating giving money to labels to supporting their fav artists, we're going to see a lack of music across the board. I've learned a while ago that kpop is a beast in and of itself completely different from the western recording industry"
clever lintel
Ye but fans won’t boycott
sturdy sundial
yg knows people are sheep
split prairie
they won't boycott, because " fans keep associating giving money to labels to supporting their fav artists"
clever lintel
Blinks buy all the random shit that’s released in lieu of music so yg just continues
split prairie
Yep, and we will continue to get what we deserve so long as we don't put our foot down and force a music-first approach
clever lintel
Yeah but unfortunately it’s hard to get the entire fan base to agree with that or even a majority
sturdy sundial
alright you can convince people in this chat
worthy cradle
cute to think we can do something against YGE or SM or JYP
sturdy sundial
what about the rest of the fanbase
split prairie
Which ties to my comment linking kpop to the western recording industry, that if you don't have music, you get forgotten, like all the jcole, rihanna, drake, etc comments we got. We move on from you if you don't have music. We don't do that in kpop, because, in kpop, music is not our #1 concern.
simple karma
also on topic of exo, chen and chanyeol often have a part co-writing exo songs. so ye
worthy cradle
I agree with that
clever lintel
Valid point tbh kpop is more like focused on the personalities rather than just the music itself compared to the west
worthy cradle
I've never watched Eminem or Ariana or whatever in a show or fancams or shit
clever lintel
Pit bull fan cams
gentle osprey
so good
sturdy sundial
what even is non kpop music
simple karma
lemon
sturdy sundial
I wish not to know
worthy cradle
Pastèque you meilleur
winter python
split prairie
and what sucks is that kpop right now has a fantastic music sound, and I feel like its being wasted
gentle osprey
my fave is her R.E.M live for bbc
split prairie
Like, if you're in kpop because you like the genre of music, you're kinda screwed
sturdy sundial
I mean
gentle osprey
her voice
worthy cradle
not really Shabz
gentle osprey
the backup singers
worthy cradle
there is a tons of groups
sturdy sundial
bp doesnt represent the whole of kpop
simple karma
i disagree shabz
sturdy sundial
it's not like everyone is doing this
split prairie
yea, ok, maybe that was a step too far.
sturdy sundial
it's an isolated example
split prairie
If you like where Teddy Park has taken kpop, you're kinda screwed. I should clarify
gentle osprey
yeah he's good
gentle osprey
but I wouldnt hate for them to work with more producers
simple karma
i do agree that yg should try with outside producers
gentle osprey
sometimes a little variety is good
simple karma
but I definitely like what teddy is doing
gentle osprey
change it up a little
worthy cradle
BP must change the construction of their songs
gentle osprey
true
simple karma
i haven't been disappointed by him
sturdy sundial
leez ollo music gods
gentle osprey
ktl ends too soon
worthy cradle
I beg you Teddy
sturdy sundial
able to make anything
split prairie
Yea because, to me, Teddy is who has changed kpop's sound to something I enjoy, so that's the vibe I'm here for. So yea, way too wide a stroke for me to say all of kpop, I admit that. But, to me, that's the real relevant sound of kpop right now. So, to that end, it sucks to be fan.
simple karma
i would be rlly excited if ateez producers make a song for bp
that would be dope af
prime dune
Wait this dude tried to say chance, j cole, and Rihanna were forgotten 
prime dune
No I brought them up earlier bc you were trying to say western music releases regularly
Where those artists took 3 years, 2 years, and we don’t even know if Rihanna is ever releasing more
simple karma
hmm. from what u saying it seems like u like only teddy music lol which is okay but u can't expect everything related to kpop to be like that
worthy cradle
All my hopes lie on Tommy
sturdy sundial
yeah cause they've alr been famous for years
so they have a following regardless of what they do
feral topaz
hmm. from what u saying it seems like u like only teddy music lol which is okay but u can't expect everything related to kpop to be like that
This. Thanks taco love you
split prairie
not everything, but you def see it in the Gen3 acts that were inspired by the Gen2 groups that Teddy worked with. GI-DLE doesn't have their sound without Soyeon being a huge 2NE1 fan. Ateez and Stray Kidz never lean that hard into the hip-hop sound without it. So it's not directly Teddy's productions, its the trend his music has helped push forward
And that trend is what had me musically interested in kpop. Prior to that, the music was just not very, for lack of better term, intriguing.
split prairie
You don't hear any Teddy influence in gidle's sound?
feral topaz
I don't think even teddy rates himself as highly as you're rating him
He's made some good songs
He hasn't influenced a generation
split prairie
Disagree there, especially on the gg side. I think him writing for 2NE1 in a style that pushed them away from the cutesy gg concepts is what opened the door for ggs to be explore more
simple karma
^
sturdy sundial
and they basically dominated 2nd gen
simple karma
pepp did u hear hide and seek ?
split prairie
Which of SNSD's singles were experimental? They were all regular old pop songs
feral topaz
clever lintel
pepp did u hear hide and seek ?
@simple karma not yet
sturdy sundial
have you ever heard anything snsd except gee
split prairie
which of their songs made you go "well, never heard that in kpop before"
feral topaz
Which of blackpink songs made you go that way bruh
feral topaz
It's okay if you're new but don't shit on a whole generation like that
split prairie
none. never said BP's songs were gamechangers
feral topaz
Teddy has made every song for bp
split prairie
Teddy's songs for 2ne1 were, tho, at least to my ear
feral topaz
And you've been arguing for an hour that teddy is game changer
2ne1 is also generic pop
split prairie
yea, and that gamechange happened with 2ne1, not bp. bp's music is just continuing that change
that changed course
main canopy
feral topaz
So snsd is generic
split prairie
and as far as snsd goes, yes, i've heard more than just Gee.
simple karma
i personally find snsd way more entertaining than 2ne1, in terms of music. 2ne1 sounds boring af to me
sturdy sundial
I never got into 2ne1
sturdy sundial
soshi queens
simple karma
it's a personal opinion after all
split prairie
Teddy was a gamechanger, just through 2ne1. RV is fantastic. Love them. But which of their earlier singles were off the beaten path? I do give credit to f(x), actually. I should have brought them up. They got shitcanned because I don't think people were ready for them, tbh.
split prairie
Amber being from LA probably helped f(x) be different, too.
sturdy sundial
feral topaz
Yeah but you don't debate on opinions taco. If you're going to stretch something this much then there has to be some substance also
That's what I think anyway
Anyway have fun guys
feral topaz
sturdy sundial
that has to be backed up by smth
or it can be dismissed just as easily as it can be asserted
split prairie
I think its only opinions that you can actually talk about for any length. Anything else is measured and proven one way or another and its ended. I'm not treating this as a debate. I'm not trying to prove myself right. We're just having a conversation
There's no checkmate here
worthy cradle
If it's what he feels, well good for him. I personnally think Eminem changes the rap game but it's only me
split prairie
I haven't felt any toxicity this entire conversation
main canopy
Shadow 
trail lotus
if we're talking about music influence I'd say GD made a big impact
fashion/music wise
split prairie
everything-wise
worthy cradle
in korea in general I think
trail lotus
can't wait to see what he comes up with next
split prairie
Has there been a more socially influential person in Korea than GD over the last decade+? Genuine question
worthy cradle
no
simple karma
same clad for eminem
main canopy
i just came to look for some kpop updates and fancams 
feral topaz
Fyps 
split prairie
Eminem upped the lyricism game in hip hop. Sound-wise, I think Pharrell should get more credit
sturdy sundial
kpop is so vague
main canopy
ty taco
split prairie
I treat #kpop-chat as "not bp music" lol
feral topaz
sturdy sundial
problem is that everything goes in here
and it becomes a mess
music, news, pics, discussion
fancams
worthy cradle
if you don't shit on other groups I don't see it as a big deal
a lot of people just listen to BTS or BP or Twice
simple karma
woah there clad. don't say smth so logical pls
split prairie
discord comes with a really cool search tool that helps you find stuff
if all you want are fancams, search for Has: link
or has:embed
simple karma
i didn't know that actually
worthy cradle
damn
simple karma
pog
worthy cradle
thank you
sturdy sundial
that doesn't address it at all
simple karma
ty
split prairie
at some point, you can separate things out so much that you wind up with more channels than active users
sturdy sundial
you don't have to go there
just a content channel and a discussion channel
I think that's reasonable
feral topaz
Okay hear me out for a second
simple karma
oh oh 
split prairie
uh oh, this is gonna take more than a second
feral topaz
This channel is enough of only relevant things are posted. But if an idol posts something on social media that has nothing to do with music, then it doesn't have to be here. Sure share concert pics and stuff. But if people care about that idol then they already follow them on whatever link you're sharing. It's a server of 10k people and not everyone wants to see every ig update. That's how I feel. But not my server
grim mist
static sonnet
feral topaz
Sonic
static sonnet
winter python
cursive belfry
I definitely respect that opinion although I’ll say I miss stuff from groups I like all the time bc I’m a fake. Although I’m in a smaller discord with kpop channel and there people mostly post releases so it’s nice to be able to easily see stuff 
so idk
simple karma
completely disagree! your opinion is stupid af shadow!
split prairie
xD
cursive belfry
split prairie
Really, there's no reason why all of the above can't be handled. Like I said, Discord's search function is fantastic. Use it
cursive belfry
bts hype died down enough I see
winter python
sturdy sundial
what's bts
split prairie
behind the scenes
clever lintel
hype never dies 
static sonnet
🙄
worthy cradle
respect my boys
sturdy sundial
I never heard
winter python
ts
winter python
main canopy
ye i mean usually this channel doesnt get spammed
feral topaz
Fyps troll
split prairie
if you won't take literally one step to find what you're looking for, then i'd say you don't really care enough for the content
feral topaz
This channel doesn't get spammed
main canopy
feral topaz
cursive belfry
true
main canopy
not spammed with lines of text about comparing groups and a meaningless conversation
cursive belfry
feral topaz
That conversation was more meaningful than seeing 10 pics posted that I see on social media anyway
sturdy sundial
talking is overrated
worthy cradle
too hard to scroll up twice per day fyps
sturdy sundial
communicate through kpop gifs
cursive belfry
simple karma
jokes aside, i disagree shadow. i'm pretty sure not everyone sees every single post of an idol they like. so if they skipped a post they come here and look. at least that's what I do.
split prairie
are we really so uptight about groups and one group being mentioned in the same breath as another that we can't even talk? Does everything have to be within the context of hating on another group? If I say one group was a game changer, do you really have to extrapolate that I mean every other group sucks? Cmon, we can be better than the standard knet
feral topaz
If they can't keep up with an app that's designed for posting posts then they certainly can't keep up with discord where people also talk and post mysouls after that post
But again
Only my opinion
simple karma
idk. i backread every day when I get home from work lol. prolly not just me
it's easier for me to do that then to go to insta or twt
feral topaz
Just as easy to back scroll your social media
static sonnet
jokes aside, i disagree shadow. i'm pretty sure not everyone sees every single post of an idol they like. so if they skipped a post they come here and look. at least that's what I do.
that doesnt mean u have to post everything they post here tho
cursive belfry
Perhaps we should use the react feature more often
cursive belfry
It’s definitely at least a bit harder because we’re in the days of algorithms and not time sorted things
simple karma
^
feral topaz
Just give it 5 mins to customise your feed and see how beautiful life is
split prairie
algos have really made it hard to consume all content. it really sucks. That's why so many people mostly post to their stories now. Only way to make sure your followers see everything
FB/IG will literally not show you content if it thinks you don't like that account enough
feral topaz
Okay
So you can find that content on that app clearly. That's how you posted it. Just trust that if you can find it there, everyone can
split prairie
That still doesn't mean #kpop-chat should be a content repository, though
static sonnet
if im getting his logic right, by tacos logic i should just post everything my favorite idol posts just if someone misses it
main canopy
split prairie
I mean, we're literally in the "chat" category. Saying we shouldn't talk here because it gets in the way of finding media is kinda lol
simple karma
not everything of course the fuck ?
clever lintel
This argument is stupid nothing is changing about this channel so y'all gotta deal with it 
feral topaz
I'm really sorry for bringing this up.
main canopy
static sonnet
girl 
split prairie
don't apologize for starting conversations. It's a good thing. Have a good day, Shadow.
maiden laurel
cursive belfry
maiden laurel
worthy cradle
main canopy
main canopy
wait dun dun and adios almost at 100m
feral topaz
shadow river
winter python
cursive belfry
winter python
psycho in there
maiden laurel
Wannabe, dun dun, psycho
clever lintel
clever lintel
I dont think so this year
sm has gg and jyp has that japanese gg
o wait actually SM might be
winter python
also new yg gg
maiden laurel
winter python
isn't dream supposed to get new members this year?
maiden laurel
Another?
clever lintel
its like a bighit/cj joint managed bg is the plan
maiden laurel
Oh nice
clever lintel
and another in 2022 is their plan
maiden laurel
Pog
winter python
i think 2021 is the next jyp bg maybe
winter python
jb turns 28 like first week of 2022 so roughly 2 years
clever lintel
maiden laurel
their contacts end next year tho right
winter python
korea past its peak it seems
clever lintel
meanwhile here 
trail lotus
my country are filled with morons
winter python
same
trail lotus
they still don't get it, and still hang together and don't listen to what the gov is saying
clever lintel
same
trail lotus
very egoistic
winter python
same
trail lotus
and so i got to work from home, which is not ideal
winter python
wait, are we talking about different countries or the same one?
trail lotus
NL
clever lintel
his is diff
feral sun
Different
winter python
oki
feral sun
US doing better now than 2 weeks ago though
clever lintel
not in this state 
winter python
def not in this state 
feral sun
We only have 400 cases
clever lintel
almost 27k here
feral sun
That’s like half the country LOL
shadow river
We only have 389
feral sun
Gg
shadow river
We are close to 500 cases where I'm at
clever lintel
🙏
trail lotus
and now there's another virus, the hantavirus
winter python
my county has barely over 100 but my state has almost 26k
shadow river
Wow
feral sun
My county has 0
trail lotus
impossible 
feral sun
My state has 500 though
shadow river
Where are you
shadow river
Wow
winter python
i think pep and i are in the same state
clever lintel
ye
clever lintel
prime dune
My county has a confirmed case but apparently the dude was taken to a different city to be treated hoping to not have more spread here
But we are up to 15
clever lintel
edgy isle
im also in SC
shadow river
North Carolina
For me
clever lintel
@feral sun
shadow river
Yea
shadow river
Same
feral sun
All the counties around me have cases though lol
shadow river
Same
clever lintel
shadow river
I miss my friends
tired oracle
my country has 2300 cases now ;_;
edgy isle
my county has like 4 cases last i knew
shadow river
Idk how many I have
feral sun
The us has 54k now lul
edgy isle
its really jumpin up lol
feral sun
Yeah guess cause they are just testing more
shadow river
I only have 2 cases
feral sun
The city next to me has 9
clever lintel
any 4k case bois in chat 
feral sun
clever lintel
shadow river
In NC all together is close to 500
shadow river
Wow
feral sun
It’s literally same place
clever lintel
nj has 2nd most tho in country iirc
shadow river
I have to go back to school on may 15
feral sun
Yes
feral sun
Yep
shadow river
Gn
clever lintel
gn
clever lintel
clever lintel
who cares about 27k cases when you sit at home all day self quarantined 
winter python
i do that almost every day anyways
feral sun
I work and go home
edgy isle
i also work and go home
feral sun
So not much exposure except at work but I’m not near anyone at work usually
edgy isle
i work in a grocery store meat department lol
feral sun
I work grocery lol
edgy isle
i cut the meat
maiden laurel
winter python
clever lintel
maiden laurel
winter python
maiden laurel
maiden laurel
simple karma
is this
maiden laurel
new bg
winter python
one of the groups that's going to be on road to kingdom
simple karma
Ye this is their debut
dull pecan
they kinda pog
simple karma
True 
winter python
simple karma
Didn't she announced it a while ago
dull pecan
F
winter python
Like 13-14 hours ago by that time stamp
maiden laurel
clever lintel
simple karma
AHH, yeah. My bad
peak fable
fierce rain
clever lintel
main canopy
fierce rain
hyunjin fighting with minho for the girl
sturdy sundial
peak fable
simple karma
worthy cradle
simple karma
next lynx
dire patio
Found new akmu song. a little old but seems like didt posted here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tHofUXNibc
random violet
its a collab i think
oh no its just a theme song for a game
so ig they posted it to the games company channel
worthy cradle
winter python
main canopy
winter python
worthy cradle
Dongie day
winter python
Mirae day 
winter python
peak fable
fierce rain
dark theme
simple karma
OneWe and hyejin
sturdy sundial
winter python
simple karma
tired oracle
next lynx
worthy cradle
Psycho
maiden laurel
worthy cradle
simple karma
we want exid!
winter python
i mean all 5 are out of the company, so now exid reunion?
simple karma
hopefully 
feral topaz
maiden laurel
worthy cradle
PAPA MOCHI
clever lintel
I usually listen to just title cause it’s at like 5 am
clever lintel
main canopy
nah not really just feeling unproductive most of the time
so im watching kdramas all day
trail lotus
kdramas 
clever lintel
This is real normal life but slightly more boring
main canopy
pep
trail lotus
i mean for a introvert sure 😛
simple karma
the only thing is I can't go out with friends, but ehh. too much work either way
worthy cradle
Still working 
winter python
thank you
feral sun
I also am still working 
feral topaz
feral sun
winter python
main canopy
winter python
simple karma
peyton u need to hear this album
feral sun
What about ong seong wu
clever lintel
feral sun
clever lintel
simple karma
seong wu album is soooo goood
feral sun
@simple karma what you want me to listen to
simple karma
seong wu
clever lintel
simple karma
one of the bsides is my fav
clever lintel
Is it we belong
brittle fableBOT
feral sun
next lynx
feral sun
This song a banger taco
simple karma
yess
maiden laurel
simple karma
i was rlly disappointed by it ngl
maiden laurel
^
winter python
i thought their first song was good, but generic
main canopy
peak fable
it was generic 
winter python
Snsd is amazing not generic
feral topaz
Not you shogun
winter python
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next lynx
halcyon moth
one month oof
main canopy
peak fable
