#Dedicated place for programmers to vent

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haughty shadow
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#cpp is once again taking over #lounge , welp! We need a dedicated place for programmers to vent.

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desert wharf
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I think #lounge is working as expected. If others want a place that is more dedicated to being entirely goofy and only off topic, then maybe an #offtopic that is topic-guarded as "only silliness and memes" would make sense

lofty egret
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Hm, #lounge versions for programmers, designers, artists and what not aren't the worsed idea, but not sure how often they would be used the way we planned.

We have the VCs layer out the same way soooo

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They could be a forum with fixed channels/topics, to save space on the channel list

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Maybe a good test for the idea of using forums for a compact chatting place, as mentioned a few times before

haughty shadow
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(need to verify)

haughty shadow
desert wharf
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I'm fine with this but my main thought is that lounge is where people can be silly and drift on topics, if we add a programmer lounge aren't we just making one more place to kick people out of into lounge?

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that's what's nice about lounge: it's less structured, a place to just chat about whatever-- I don't see it as being intended strictly for "non-work" or "not unreal related" discussion, just discussion that isn't serving the purpose of asking and answering questions

haughty shadow
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if we add a programmer lounge aren't we just making one more place to kick people out of into lounge?
No. We are making space for more dedicated place to programmers. Where you can talk C++, Java or just meme about it, relate to other engines etc. It will offload also a ton of off-topic from #cpp itself, which is heavily used already anyway.

stable sparrow
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I still dont see why it matters, since it relates to a lot of people here anyway. Surely loungr should be about anything we wanna talk about, whether that be programming, sports, memes, random whatevers.

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Its not like that talk disruptd much

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You can still post your memes and such

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Especoally seeing as you are the only one i have heard complain about it so far

chrome moat
haughty shadow
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It is occupation!

unique cedar
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I'm for a cpp-lounge channel 👍

strange turtle
# haughty shadow <#221799439008923648> is once again taking over <#221796616653373441> , welp! We...

I dunno that sounds like it was working as intended.

The other day, we had somebody who wanted to ask about c++ and specifically did not want to use Unreal Engine, so we sent them to #lounge according to the rules. That is just the most recent of many similar situations.

Why does somebody want to ask about not using Unreal Engine in an Unreal Engine server? I don't know.

If you make a "Programmer Lounge" that will just replace #cpp and we'd still send people to regular #lounge when they were not talking about programming. At least that's the future I see if we walk that path.

The crew from #cpp comes in #lounge very occasionally. Why is it our fault that #lounge isn't as active without us so we have an outsized impact?

Personally I think all these new channel requests are solutions looking for a problems.

The real issue is we have too many dead/zombie channels in my opinion. I think the annual stats really showed that only a handful of the channels have any real traffic.

If we consolidate them, we'll have more active channels which would allay several of the complaints about waiting a long time for a response on some channels, etc.

Additionally, with more general topics there would be less things "off topic" to send people to #lounge over....

haughty shadow
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with more general topics
That's why programmers lounge, artists, or else channel.

strange turtle
chrome moat
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Reminds me of the xkcd about standards...

haughty shadow
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Noticing how (mostly) #cpp are against 😛

median bay
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I know I am necro'ing an old thread at this point but why not have a ccp 1 and cpp 2 channel? Oftentimes shit posting asides there are multiple conversations going on at once that are genuinely helpful.

haughty shadow
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They kinda avoid to see that #cpp is barely holding with all that traffic.

mortal umbra
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I can see why you are not enjoying when #cppers invade #lounge but on the other hand #lounge rarely does something other than irrelevant gif chains and screenshot posting

haughty shadow
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Hey, it is #lounge also, it is not true I don't enjoy. I'm saying, add more of #cpp - that like polar opposite.

desert wharf
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I feel like we've struck a better balance since this thread was first posted /shrug

lament ember
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If cpp gets a forum of its own wouldnt the channel then become the programmer lounge? I actually prefer less structured conversation, this idea that BP and CPP dont intersect makes it difficult for people who ride the lines between groups.